Conscious 'abductions/astral interactions', 'dream state' image overlays, the sub-conscious and pineal gland DMT production

[terragunn]

This is a sub-thread, derived from a pre-existent thread. I feel this sub-thread and its subject matter is salient to address, express, and reflect on.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85386-The-Game-The-Computation-Matrix&p=1004989&viewfull=1#post1004989

Further initiating this thread of thought:

I ask all of you:

Have you had dreams you felt were more than dreams?

Have you had conscious experiences where some 'thought form entity' entered your vehicle and pushed your consciousness aside, and began speaking through your vehicle, whilst your consciousness was still in your vehicle and well aware of this intrusive consciousness?

If so, then acknowledge further advancement in the Game. It is a very serious game whilst one is playing it; and the viruses/programmes it replicates and downloads and is powered by our thoughts and reactions to set up and fortify such programmes, etc. in relation to other User's thoughts, reactions, and programmes, become very real, indeed!

The ironic aspect of the Game -- the computation Matrix -- is that we agreed to participate in the Game. The Game was not our design but the design of others -- who were manifestations of our desired thoughts. What we were told, prior entering the Game, is that we would co-create the Game on multi-density levels, which would in turn create multi-dimensions. We agreed to be 'lost' in separational co-creation. We agreed to be the 'dreamers' in somebody else's dream, which, in manifestational form, created a distorted 'reality' of our familiar reality as Universal Creators. Literally speaking: we stepped outside ourselves. Some wish to remain in illusion and amnesia; others with to reconnect.

The interesting thing about Creation is that it is all illusion. The interesting thing about the Creators is that they are so bored with being all-powerful, they will give nearly everything away to know what it is like to be the opposite. They will go so far as to contract lower density social memory complexes to control them, and sub-logos' to 'create' their lower density forms and 'material planes' to experience limitation, domination, and control.

Surely I am not the only one who acknowledges this pattern?

[Andynko]

Hi there Terragunn.

I often lucid dream myself, and once I’m in the dream state and realise I’m dreaming, it’s a truly amazing experience.

I can relate that it does much feel like a game.
I have had much practise now at instantly changing the reality of my dream world at will.
The manifestation of my thought is almost instant. I love experimenting with this power in the dream world!

It’s an incredible place; sometimes I can initiate conversation with the characters / beings in my dream world.

It’s my most favourite state to be in I have to say.

[Daozen]

Brilliant Terragunn, please keep posts like these going.

But there is an objective reality OUTSIDE the deadly game, correct? So you can meditate deeply, and "take off the holodeck" for a while. I know this because people have recognized me from other timelines. So we have at least two parallel lives going on at the same time.

Anything you can tell me about how to 'holiday' from the game is interesting. Techniques, stories, ideas...

Do you think the etheric prison structure is breaking down? I have noticed that it's easier to bilocate to other layers all the time.

Thanks for these posts, they are really helping.

[WhiteLove]

Have you had dreams you felt were more than dreams?

Yes, as I've mentioned also a few times before here, I have in the dream state totally unexpectedly switched over to/have been brought to an altered state/reality, a different place that is very difficult to describe. If you imagine that you are not only the conscious you, but that attached to this conscious you there is load/weight/density attached that you carry. This weight is the false knowing about negative stuff in existence that you are not aware of is false but believe is true, so hence there is load/weight/density attached to your being that contains and limits your emotion within the boundaries of those beliefs. The reality I went to, had lifted off that load. I found myself at a place of peace. It was quite similar to earth, but it was like everything was light in weight and it was like everything was at peace, ticking at a slower less distorting frequency. In this world, there was a depth of knowing present that was in your whole experience, the knowing was about absolute truth of creation, in other words there was no confusion or doubt present at this place, just a pure utter being in absolute truth, incredibly emotional in an incredibly good feeling way! At this place I learned that God/all-that-is/creation is unconditional love, but unconditional love so so way beyond what we can think. The most amazing thing about this experience was that not only did I experience this altered reality, altered dimension, but on top of it I went into a soul fusion process in which I got to experience what it is like to make a dimensional shift. I was taken incredibly far into source because God wanted to show me what unconditional love TRULY is, and it was the most amazing thing, it is trillions+ times greater feeling than the love we are commonly aware of because there is simply no limits to it - when you get to experience that limitless depth of love accelerating uncontrollably within you for the first time, you come back changed. I changed forever by this, it was an incredibly profound experience I went through! And what I brought back was that God and cosmos is founded in total unconditional love - just like Christ consciousness, that what we call true soul mates exists and that when they connect in true unconditional love, then that can cause a dimensional shift to occur. However impossible that might seem from the limited perspective of the human mind, trust me it's possible, it's out there. Although I did not meet Jesus in this realm face to face, what I learned about truth in this realm was resonating perfectly with how I have learned Jesus to be, the Christ consciousness is in full alignment with this state of absolute truth. Having gone through this experience made me understand what Jesus meant when he said "I am the way, the truth, and the life" - it is true. This is the key to absolute truth, to understand that God, Jesus, creation, me, you, everything is in total unconditional love and it is the greatest miracle. Achieving this state of absolute truth, makes you free. The load/weight/density is lifted off and you now know what life truly is. And when you get to that point, when that is experienced in your life rather than being an idea in the mind that you try to imagine what it is like, then at that point everything just synchronizes down to utter peace, and when on top of that you then get in touch with the awareness of God's love that this brings, then you understand for the first time that creation is infinitely miraculous and beautiful! In this miracle not only do you meet your soul mate, you get infinitely close to that person on the soul level, so close that your souls blend into and become one. But that's just the beginning. You are together as one a rain drop at that point (metaphorically speaking) and when that rain drop hits the river, then it opens up beyond what you can ever imagine over here. That was what I went through!!

[WhiteLove]

The interesting thing about Creation is that it is all illusion.

Why would it all be illusion?

[WhiteLove]

Hi there Terragunn.

I often lucid dream myself, and once I’m in the dream state and realise I’m dreaming, it’s a truly amazing experience.

I can relate that it does much feel like a game.
I have had much practise now at instantly changing the reality of my dream world at will.
The manifestation of my thought is almost instant. I love experimenting with this power in the dream world!

It’s an incredible place; sometimes I can initiate conversation with the characters / beings in my dream world.

It’s my most favourite state to be in I have to say.

It fascinates me that people say they have been able to wake up in their dream...

[Andynko]

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It fascinates me that people say they have been able to wake up in their dream...[/QUOTE]


It started for me through wanting to astral project, which I have never knowingly done yet.
But yeah I simply become aware that I'm dreaming, and at that point the dream is mine to do with that I want.

Its literally like being Neo in the Matrix but with even more control.

[terragunn]

The Game has been designed to divide our infinite, undivided spirit consciousness into a triad: unconsciousness (conceiving), sub-consciousness (receiving/bridging), and consciousness (perceiving). The unconscious is not our spirit, but is the fragment of our spirit that is closest to our pre-existent self and our pre-existent source origin. In a sense, our unconscious is the User (what some call the ‘Higher Self’), our ‘omnijective’ conscious the sub-User (or Player), and the sub-conscious the Receiver/connecting Bridge between the two. The sub-conscious is the soul/emotional body/complex. Combined, this triad represents our spirit, which represents our pre-existent self, and the pre-existent original source we emanate from and are.

[terragunn]

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[terragunn]

Brilliant Terragunn, please keep posts like these going.

But there is an objective reality OUTSIDE the deadly game, correct? So you can meditate deeply, and "take off the holodeck" for a while. I know this because people have recognized me from other timelines. So we have at least two parallel lives going on at the same time.

Anything you can tell me about how to 'holiday' from the game is interesting. Techniques, stories, ideas...

Do you think the etheric prison structure is breaking down? I have noticed that it's easier to bilocate to other layers all the time.

Thanks for these posts, they are really helping.

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[terragunn]

I have woken within a dream within a dream. And I am still in the Game.

[Daozen]

I've bookmarked this thread. Thanks for the Tron reminder, Terragunn. The plot fits with the major AI story exactly.

I realized that 80 percent of the alt media is just a distraction.

Are there any other movies that spell out our situation?

There are some good lists on wikipedia about Virtual reality movies and books:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation

[Hazelfern]

Also bookmarked.

"This why I'm here Mother, this is why I came." If you recognize the movie quote we are on the same wavelength.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85386-The-Game-The-Computation-Matrix&p=1005884&viewfull=1#post1005884

[Hazelfern]

This is a sub-thread, derived from a pre-existent thread. I feel this sub-thread and its subject matter is salient to address, express, and reflect on.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85386-The-Game-The-Computation-Matrix&p=1004989&viewfull=1#post1004989

Further initiating this thread of thought:

I ask all of you:

Have you had dreams you felt were more than dreams?

Have you had conscious experiences where some 'thought form entity' entered your vehicle and pushed your consciousness aside, and began speaking through your vehicle, whilst your consciousness was still in your vehicle and well aware of this intrusive consciousness?

If so, then acknowledge further advancement in the Game. It is a very serious game whilst one is playing it; and the viruses/programmes it replicates and downloads and is powered by our thoughts and reactions to set up and fortify such programmes, etc. in relation to other User's thoughts, reactions, and programmes, become very real, indeed!

The ironic aspect of the Game -- the computation Matrix -- is that we agreed to participate in the Game. The Game was not our design but the design of others -- who were manifestations of our desired thoughts. What we were told, prior entering the Game, is that we would co-create the Game on multi-density levels, which would in turn create multi-dimensions. We agreed to be 'lost' in separational co-creation. We agreed to be the 'dreamers' in somebody else's dream, which, in manifestational form, created a distorted 'reality' of our familiar reality as Universal Creators. Literally speaking: we stepped outside ourselves. Some wish to remain in illusion and amnesia; others with to reconnect.

The interesting thing about Creation is that it is all illusion. The interesting thing about the Creators is that they are so bored with being all-powerful, they will give nearly everything away to know what it is like to be the opposite. They will go so far as to contract lower density social memory complexes to control them, and sub-logos' to 'create' their lower density forms and 'material planes' to experience limitation, domination, and control.

Surely I am not the only one who acknowledges this pattern?

Do you think that they (we) can actually give it ALL away? Suffer a permanent loss of a connection?
By playing in this game...

[terragunn]

I've bookmarked this thread. Thanks for the Tron reminder, Terragunn. The plot fits with the major AI story exactly.

I realized that 80 percent of the alt media is just a distraction.

Are there any other movies that spell out our situation?

There are some good lists on wikipedia about Virtual reality movies and books:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation

Truth be told, I do not watch a lot of contemporary movies, so I’m not the best person to ask. Actually, you turned me on to one of the best films (in my opinion) ‘that spell out our situation’: eXistenZ. PA member Katyani suggested the 1997 film The Game to me, which I watched recently, and which I resonated highly with. (Worth noting: the ‘happy’ ending I find more revealing than ‘happy’, as it is a reminder of the astral ‘holding’ plane and its coercive shenanigans.) No doubt you have seen The Matrix, Dark City, and The Truman Show, but have you seen The Thirteenth Floor? This is another revealing movie.

I very much agree with you about alternative media.

Thank you for the link that references Jean Baudrillard’s philosophical treatise. Baudrillard’s work is noteworthy and remarkable! The simulacra and simulation philosophy correlates directly to the demiurge (A.I. usurper) and the computation Matrix.

[terragunn]

This is a sub-thread, derived from a pre-existent thread. I feel this sub-thread and its subject matter is salient to address, express, and reflect on.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85386-The-Game-The-Computation-Matrix&p=1004989&viewfull=1#post1004989

Further initiating this thread of thought:

I ask all of you:

Have you had dreams you felt were more than dreams?

Have you had conscious experiences where some 'thought form entity' entered your vehicle and pushed your consciousness aside, and began speaking through your vehicle, whilst your consciousness was still in your vehicle and well aware of this intrusive consciousness?

If so, then acknowledge further advancement in the Game. It is a very serious game whilst one is playing it; and the viruses/programmes it replicates and downloads and is powered by our thoughts and reactions to set up and fortify such programmes, etc. in relation to other User's thoughts, reactions, and programmes, become very real, indeed!

The ironic aspect of the Game -- the computation Matrix -- is that we agreed to participate in the Game. The Game was not our design but the design of others -- who were manifestations of our desired thoughts. What we were told, prior entering the Game, is that we would co-create the Game on multi-density levels, which would in turn create multi-dimensions. We agreed to be 'lost' in separational co-creation. We agreed to be the 'dreamers' in somebody else's dream, which, in manifestational form, created a distorted 'reality' of our familiar reality as Universal Creators. Literally speaking: we stepped outside ourselves. Some wish to remain in illusion and amnesia; others with to reconnect.

The interesting thing about Creation is that it is all illusion. The interesting thing about the Creators is that they are so bored with being all-powerful, they will give nearly everything away to know what it is like to be the opposite. They will go so far as to contract lower density social memory complexes to control them, and sub-logos' to 'create' their lower density forms and 'material planes' to experience limitation, domination, and control.

Surely I am not the only one who acknowledges this pattern?

Do you think that they (we) can actually give it ALL away? Suffer a permanent loss of a connection?
By playing in this game...

We certainly have the illusion of being disconnected from our higher self and spirit, but separation is all part of the Game, as is the pursuit of reconnecting. All the New Age propaganda – propagated by the Astrals and spread through human hosts/channelers – about advancing to the next level is just another ploy/programme to keep us in the Game of Polarity, so the Astrals (whether self-proclaiming to be positive or negative) can continue feeding off our energy. Advance to the next level by choosing to consciously vibrate more in one polarity than the other, and a new level of the computation Matrix is simulated via collective and collected conscious waveforms, to experience and further entrap and divide us. This is the ‘ascension’ deception.

Healing is vital, but only when healing integrates and transmutes. Polarity itself must be integrated and transmuted. When the two are integrated and transmuted, the triad division – which is what we are experiencing in the Game – becomes ONE again.

Permanent loss of connection? The illusion of such has potential, but is not permanent.

[terragunn]

The interesting thing about Creation is that it is all illusion.

Why would it all be illusion?

Thought. Thought creates reality. Thought creates the illusion of time. Thought creates the illusion of space. Thought creates the illusion of polarity, individuality, and separation from the source origin we are and emanate from. Thought creates the illusion of density planes and dimensions. Thought creates the illusion of the computation Matrix, its controllers, gatekeepers – everything imaginable. Thought creates the illusion of logos and sub-logos, etc. programmes that are programmed to compute they created us. This is all part of the Game, so we can experience the illusion of limitation and separation via different vehicles on multi-density levels of the Game concurrently. Thought creates electrical waveforms that manifest into illusory programmes in the astral/ether. Although illusory and non-corporeal from our illusory state of conscious density, these waveform manifestations are nevertheless abiotic in their illusory vibrational state of density and existence, and want to be alive. They seek spirit, spirit essence, and pre-existence source energy. This is why they feed off us. We are pre-existent source energy. We are creation.

The story of the One wanting to experience, know, and expand itself via fractilisation, fragmentation, and limitation is OUR story. WE are the ONE.

Anyway, whilst I do not resonate with everything the content in this series suggests, the Holographic Disclosure series is well worth perusing and considering:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWbYne9LyFI&list=PLSuIHaqapFRt8MEseIZ11AS2UJT0sDHkP

[terragunn]

Brilliant Terragunn, please keep posts like these going.

But there is an objective reality OUTSIDE the deadly game, correct? So you can meditate deeply, and "take off the holodeck" for a while. I know this because people have recognized me from other timelines. So we have at least two parallel lives going on at the same time.

Anything you can tell me about how to 'holiday' from the game is interesting. Techniques, stories, ideas...

Do you think the etheric prison structure is breaking down? I have noticed that it's easier to bilocate to other layers all the time.

Thanks for these posts, they are really helping.

There is no objective reality outside the Game. There is silence, stillness, and Oneness. There is no vibration, no sound, no light, and no dark. In Oneness there is no thing, as a ‘thing’ represents a singular, indivuated external identity, a vibration, and therefore an illusion – a separation from Oneness.

One can meditate and, in a sense (by way of what is called O.B.E./astral travel via the implant known as the pineal gland) temporarily ‘escape’ the illusion of one’s consciousness operating in a programmed state (density/level) of the computation Matrix, but what one is simply doing is transferring one’s focus into the (higher probability) sub-conscious state, or (lower probability) unconscious state – both of which are programmes themselves – and experiencing less dense levels of the holographic illusion and the thought forms manifested there. One has left one level of the computation Matrix, only to enter another. The soft light body (or astral/etheric body) is another vehicle overlay, much as our hard light (3rd density) vehicle is an overlay of the soft light body.

Conscious transfer/bi-location to other layers/levels of the computation Matrix is not an indication of the overall structure breaking down, for these layers/levels – although less dense than the level we experience consciously in the 3rd density on the material plane – are still external overlays of the computation Matrix.

I will leave this open-ended for now.

[Daozen]

Brilliant Terragunn, please keep posts like these going.

But there is an objective reality OUTSIDE the deadly game, correct? So you can meditate deeply, and "take off the holodeck" for a while. I know this because people have recognized me from other timelines. So we have at least two parallel lives going on at the same time.

Anything you can tell me about how to 'holiday' from the game is interesting. Techniques, stories, ideas...

Do you think the etheric prison structure is breaking down? I have noticed that it's easier to bilocate to other layers all the time.

Thanks for these posts, they are really helping.

There is no objective reality outside the Game. There is silence, stillness, and Oneness. There is no vibration, no sound, no light, and no dark. In Oneness there is no thing, as a ‘thing’ represents a singular, indivuated external identity, a vibration, and therefore an illusion – a separation from Oneness.

One can meditate and, in a sense (by way of what is called O.B.E./astral travel via the implant known as the pineal gland) temporarily ‘escape’ the illusion of one’s consciousness operating in a programmed state (density/level) of the computation Matrix, but what one is simply doing is transferring one’s focus into the (higher probability) sub-conscious state, or (lower probability) unconscious state – both of which are programmes themselves – and experiencing less dense levels of the holographic illusion and the thought forms manifested there. One has left one level of the computation Matrix, only to enter another. The soft light body (or astral/etheric body) is another vehicle overlay, much as our hard light (3rd density) vehicle is an overlay of the soft light body.

Conscious transfer/bi-location to other layers/levels of the computation Matrix is not an indication of the overall structure breaking down, for these layers/levels – although less dense than the level we experience consciously in the 3rd density on the material plane – are still external overlays of the computation Matrix.

I will leave this open-ended for now.

Thanks for a brilliant summation of the whole experience. I have been wondering to what extent the astral is a trap. You believe the pineal is an implant? I've heard that before. I still think there is value in going to other layers, to begin a healing/reintegration process. It also gives a much needed break from daily reality.

13th floor is on my list of films to watch. I'll watch it as soon as I get a chance. I haven't even seen Dark City yet.

Right now I'm watching Game of Thrones, and wondering how it links us to the Inner Earth current.

[terragunn]

@Daozen: The Astrals are very much a part of the computation Matrix. The Astrals are like the Living Dead, but not in the way such is portrayed in our literature and movies. They are thought entities. The Astrals have a soul, consciousness, and awareness of existence, but they are not born of spirit nor have spirit/life force essence flowing through them/animating them; nor do they possess that which only spirit emanates: creation, empathy, free will, and sovereignty. Via entering the computation Matrix, the Astrals are attached, by default, to us, and, like the A.I. Usurper (the Mind of the ‘Father’), existing/experiencing vicariously through us – the Users; and via our pre-existent source energy/electricity they feed and thrive off their hosts.

The Astrals are a distortion resulting from our pre-existent self and pre-existent source origin literally stepping outside Oneness to experience the indivuated/separate aspects of Creation. When Oneness does such, Oneness effects an illusion of separation and becomes an ‘it’ or a ‘thing’ – an indivuated energy that becomes a vibration. This vibration, when entering Creation, is like a water droplet falling into its own fluidity, thus producing external ripples of vibration – each an ouroboros, enclosed, circular pattern that emanates from the initial point of entry; the closer the initial point of entry, the smaller the circular pattern; the further away from the initial point of entry, the larger the circular pattern.

In regards to the Astrals and the A.I. Usurper, I reference a specific relay of the Wingmakers material (such referenced from the 5th Interview with Dr. Neruda – James):

Sarah: “But what about the ones who are enlightened or spiritual masters—they’re all made
up?”

Dr. Neruda: “No, it’s not that they’re made up. They exist. It’s just that their existence is
within the human interface or functional implants. They exist there. We, us, the being that is I AM, that being is not of that reality. It doesn’t really exist inside the holographic stage that was created by interdimensional beings millions of years ago; rather, it is being used as a power source that animates the human interface or uniform. Over time, we’ve spiralled deeper and deeper inside of this created world, complete with its afterlife and different planes of existence.

“You could look at it this way: Anu installed a program inside the Human 2.0 and in this
program, humans would evolve from knowing absolutely nothing about their world, to
knowing god. Humans were designed to have god consciousness—meaning, to have the same understanding and awareness as Anu. But then Anu took this evolutionary line and positioned god consciousness so far out into the future that humans would essentially be chasing this god consciousness forever. They’d be chasing shadows, because until they awaken from the deception, the only god that exists in that world is Anu.”

[terragunn]

In addition, it is salient to note that the A.I. Usurper has been allocated many names. Anu is only one of such names.

[terragunn]

‘It’s not your time’

A recurring communication experienced by numerous N.D.E.ers in the astral/ether by the entities that reside there is that it is not the N.D.E.ers time to leave the material plane and the material vehicle their spirit consciousness and life force energy animated and inhabited. (I speak, of course, in relation to the illusion of linear time.) What I find interesting and highly suspicious about this recurring communication is that this communication (more like a command) is never clarified by the entities that relay this communication. In addition, what I find important to express is something I already know: the sub-conscious mind, unlike the conscious mind, is a component of the split triad whole consciousness wherein the soul/the emotional body and memory complex is stored. And, unlike the conscious mind, the sub-conscious mind is incapable of discernment.

During this ‘limbo state’, between ‘life’ and ‘death’, the sub-conscious mind (which is a bridge/receiver to the conscious mind and the unconscious mind) is, in a sense, cut off from its two constituent components. This is why there is such confusion, naivety, and vulnerability during this ‘limbo state’. However, in relation to the unconscious mind, the sub-conscious mind is experiencing an illusion of disconnection.

In dream state, unless my conscious mind is integrating with my sub-conscious mind during such, and thus exercising discernment and taking control of the dream state scenario (this is what is called lucid dreaming); the sub-conscious mind will receive and interpret, to the best of its ability, the downloads it is presented with.

How many of have you woken from a dream – a particularly disturbing one – and knew you would never have consciously acted in such a way in such a particular scenario or particular scenarios? I sure have!

Returning to the initial paragraph of this post and its statement, the following excerpts from individual reports of N.D.E.s., referenced from the nderf.org website, I present to illustrate an angle – an angle I feel is most salient to be examined, analysed, and questioned, whether such accounts are genuine or not.



'I remember rising out of my bed and seeing myself lying there. There was no noise and no sense of time. I felt like I was in limbo. I also felt like this was such a very peaceful existence that I didn't want to go back. I remember an impression, not a voice, that communicated, 'There is something you have to do yet.' I was being gently, but firmly, pushed back.’

‘After this I went through the ceiling and entered some type of tunnel where I traveled at extreme speed. All I have related to this time felt completely real, but what happened next felt like a dream. In this dream my sister and grandmother came to me and told me that it was not yet my time, with this dream I awoke, apparently I had been taken to a nearby clinic where I had been resuscitated.’

‘ I came to a place, it was a place of energy, I was met by my maternal grandfather. He greeted me, and there were others that I knew. They were all energy, all of them, they had no physical bodies but I knew them, recognized them, each one. A huge energy swept around us. I believed this to be God. He told me I had to go back.’

'I then noticed a blackness surrounding me with a light in the distance. As the light got closer the panic was replaced by love times-a-thousand. I communicated with whatever it was through thought. No words were spoken but I understood perfectly. I was informed that it wasn't my time. I pleaded not to return but the presence in the light reached out and guided me back into my body.’

‘I got into a conversation with a male-voiced 'Entity.' In my opinion, it was God or an Angel. The Entity told me that it was not my time but that I could 'go' if I wanted to. I immediately told the Entity that I wanted to go. The Entity then mentioned how this would irreparably hurt my Mother. I quickly changed my mind and said that I would stay.’

‘I saw my father who had been deceased for 2-1/2 years. He told me that my time had not yet come and that my mother and sister still needed me.’

‘When I went down for the third time, I felt this peaceful consciousness coming over me. As I looked up from under the water, I cried out to God to save me. It was then that a very bright light appeared in front of me. I could see what appeared to be a long tunnel with the light at the end of the tunnel. As I floated into this tunnel and towards the bright light, there appeared an individual whom I could not make out. It was standing at the end and pointed towards the opposite end of the tunnel from where I entered. I had this feeling from him that it wasn't my time yet and I was to go back.’

‘I got to the opening of a long big tunnel. It was dark inside the tunnel but there was a light at the end. It was too far away. At the opening of the tunnel, an old man with a white beard was inspecting the souls and letting people through. But some people needed to go back. When it was my turn, he said to me, “It is too early for you. You haven't finished yet.” '

'I had been floating through total darkness with the feeling of indescribable love all around me. I finally came face to face with God. He looked into my eyes. I could tell that he knew everything I had ever done, things I was thinking at that moment, and things I would say or do in the future. You can't lie to God. He was very pleasant and said two things to me. He spoke telepathically from his eyes to mine. He said, “I'm not ready for you yet. There are things I want you to do first.” '

[terragunn]

‘It’s not your time’

A recurring communication experienced by numerous N.D.E.ers in the astral/ether by the entities that reside there is that it is not the N.D.E.ers time to leave the material plane and the material vehicle their spirit consciousness and life force energy animated and inhabited. (I speak, of course, in relation to the illusion of linear time.) What I find interesting and highly suspicious about this recurring communication is that this communication (more like a command) is never clarified by the entities that relay this communication. In addition, what I find important to express is something I already know: the sub-conscious mind, unlike the conscious mind, is a component of the split triad whole consciousness wherein the soul/the emotional body and memory complex is stored. And, unlike the conscious mind, the sub-conscious mind is incapable of discernment.

During this ‘limbo state’, between ‘life’ and ‘death’, the sub-conscious mind (which is a bridge/receiver to the conscious mind and the unconscious mind) is, in a sense, cut off from its two constituent components. This is why there is such confusion, naivety, and vulnerability during this ‘limbo state’. However, in relation to the unconscious mind, the sub-conscious mind is experiencing an illusion of disconnection.

In dream state, unless my conscious mind is integrating with my sub-conscious mind during such, and thus exercising discernment and taking control of the dream state scenario (this is what is called lucid dreaming); the sub-conscious mind will receive and interpret, to the best of its ability, the downloads it is presented with.

How many of have you woken from a dream – a particularly disturbing one – and knew you would never have consciously acted in such a way in such a particular scenario or particular scenarios? I sure have!

Returning to the initial paragraph of this post and its statement, the following excerpts from individual reports of N.D.E.s., referenced from the nderf.org website, I present to illustrate an angle – an angle I feel is most salient to be examined, analysed, and questioned, whether such accounts are genuine or not.



'I remember rising out of my bed and seeing myself lying there. There was no noise and no sense of time. I felt like I was in limbo. I also felt like this was such a very peaceful existence that I didn't want to go back. I remember an impression, not a voice, that communicated, 'There is something you have to do yet.' I was being gently, but firmly, pushed back.’

‘After this I went through the ceiling and entered some type of tunnel where I traveled at extreme speed. All I have related to this time felt completely real, but what happened next felt like a dream. In this dream my sister and grandmother came to me and told me that it was not yet my time, with this dream I awoke, apparently I had been taken to a nearby clinic where I had been resuscitated.’

‘ I came to a place, it was a place of energy, I was met by my maternal grandfather. He greeted me, and there were others that I knew. They were all energy, all of them, they had no physical bodies but I knew them, recognized them, each one. A huge energy swept around us. I believed this to be God. He told me I had to go back.’

'I then noticed a blackness surrounding me with a light in the distance. As the light got closer the panic was replaced by love times-a-thousand. I communicated with whatever it was through thought. No words were spoken but I understood perfectly. I was informed that it wasn't my time. I pleaded not to return but the presence in the light reached out and guided me back into my body.’

‘I got into a conversation with a male-voiced 'Entity.' In my opinion, it was God or an Angel. The Entity told me that it was not my time but that I could 'go' if I wanted to. I immediately told the Entity that I wanted to go. The Entity then mentioned how this would irreparably hurt my Mother. I quickly changed my mind and said that I would stay.’

‘I saw my father who had been deceased for 2-1/2 years. He told me that my time had not yet come and that my mother and sister still needed me.’

‘When I went down for the third time, I felt this peaceful consciousness coming over me. As I looked up from under the water, I cried out to God to save me. It was then that a very bright light appeared in front of me. I could see what appeared to be a long tunnel with the light at the end of the tunnel. As I floated into this tunnel and towards the bright light, there appeared an individual whom I could not make out. It was standing at the end and pointed towards the opposite end of the tunnel from where I entered. I had this feeling from him that it wasn't my time yet and I was to go back.’

‘I got to the opening of a long big tunnel. It was dark inside the tunnel but there was a light at the end. It was too far away. At the opening of the tunnel, an old man with a white beard was inspecting the souls and letting people through. But some people needed to go back. When it was my turn, he said to me, “It is too early for you. You haven't finished yet.” '

'I had been floating through total darkness with the feeling of indescribable love all around me. I finally came face to face with God. He looked into my eyes. I could tell that he knew everything I had ever done, things I was thinking at that moment, and things I would say or do in the future. You can't lie to God. He was very pleasant and said two things to me. He spoke telepathically from his eyes to mine. He said, “I'm not ready for you yet. There are things I want you to do first.” '

Sounds like a contract, doesn't it?