Coldest November night on record in parts of UK

[irishspirit]

Temperatures plummeted to the coldest on record for November in many parts of the UK overnight.

Northern Ireland reached a new low of -8.6C (17F) at Aldergrove, in Belfast, while in Sennybridge, in Powys, the record was broken with -14.3C (6F)

In Loch Glascarnoch, in the Highlands, it was -15.3C (4F), and in Shawbury, in Shropshire, the low was -12.5C (10F).

Snow is still falling in Scotland and north-east England, disrupting travel, and is set to last until Tuesday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11855579

I can tell ya folks, it is major cold here. I am using about 15 pounds a day in gas just now.

[Sabrina]

BBC TV weather news live in Northumberland this morning reported team had just encountered thunder clap and lightning. Believe this is rare in natural snowy conditions?

[Geoist]

I think the lack of Gulf stream may have something to do with the inclement weather.

[Lovepromoter]

I think the lack of Gulf stream may have something to do with the inclement weather.

I agree, i was reading back in the summer that the gulf stream is dieing in certain parts and temperatures of minus 20 were coming to the u.k. this winter. I told a few people about this and was laughed at...I guess no one's laughing now though.

[irishspirit]

love,

you are right. I posted a thread on it on here and people seemed to think nothing of it. How they feel about it now? Lets hope they comment on this.

[Swami]

love,

you are right. I posted a thread on it on here and people seemed to think nothing of it. How they feel about it now? Lets hope they comment on this.

Not saying it has nothing to do with the conveyor belt BUT all planets in our solarsystem are changing...
I think theres more going on than meets the eye....

[Ammit]

Its is certainly strangely cold here, below freezing and yet not one car was frozen in my street. Must have had a team of ice eating elves clean them all....

[norman]

Yes, I'm in said snowy north east England and it's still coming down and my car now looks like it won't be going anywhere for a good long while. I'm deliberately not listening to any 'normal' news at all right now and I hadn't realised it had been so cold last night. I've got at least enough food for a month here so I'm not panicking but I'll be disapointed if I have to go back on tap water for my tea.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

We are well overdue for an ice age. I wonder how TPTB are going to explain this to the man made lol global warming crowd.

http://www.edgeblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/globaltempchart.gif
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2009/7/7/1246956719018/Scene-from-Ice-Age-Dawn-o-001.jpg

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Yes, the Gulf stream/North Atlantic drift has not kicked in and this makes a vast difference in climate in England and N. Europe and also along the east coast of USA. This can be cyclical or also been affected by gulf oil spill - or both.

But also, as the Arctic summer temps warm (as they have by several degrees in the past few years) the mountains of ice begin to melt and these mountains of ice in the past have held the cold Arctic winter winds in the Arctic. Now that those mountains of ice have been reduced, the Winter Arctic winds can come down to us, which makes our winters colder. California has also been experiencing colder winters, however, colder in California is a far cry from what England is experiencing. I'm a native of New England, so I know what cold is. brrr - I send you all warm huggs.
Here is an article from NOAA which explains better and in more depth about relationship of cold winters in N. Hemisphere to arctic warming.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2010/10/noaa-arctic-melting-/1

There are many things happening in the Universe presently that even NASA is having trouble explaining. Is this because we have better equipment or that things are truly changing? Perhaps both. Several articles attached. One regarding the huge bubble found (quite a lovely picture) and the other about the ribbon discovered.

http://spacefellowship.com/news/art23759/nasa-s-fermi-telescope-finds-giant-structure-in-our-galaxy.htm

lhttp://www.itwire.com/science-news/space/28579-nasa-surprised-with-strange-ribbon-circling-solar-system

I don't know if global warming is true or not and how much humans have to do with it. BUT WHAT I DO KNOW is that when the theory of global warming became publicized it made many more conscious of our connection to Mother Earth and for me then, the theory served a great purpose.

I encourage all to avoid the argument of why, but rather to observe what is happening and find understanding without becoming too attached to which why is correct.

[norman]

http://spacefellowship.com/news/art23759/nasa-s-fermi-telescope-finds-giant-structure-in-our-galaxy.htm

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the spacefellowship link doesn't work for me, might a regional restriction.

[Swami]

http://rabbithole2.com/presentation/images2/chart1.jpg
CLICK this link: http://rabbithole2.com/presentation/images2/chart1.jpg
http://rabbithole2.com/presentation/images2/chart2.jpg
http://www.rabbithole2.com/presentation/news/earth_changes_news/charts_graphs_of_ice_ages.htm

[Ba-ba-Ra]

the spacefellowship link doesn't work for me, might a regional restriction.

Sorry, but as many of you may have already noticed, I'm computer-challenged.

But it you goggle: NASA discovered bubble, plenty of sites will come up with the info. Same with other posting. Goggle: NASA discovers ribbon

[Ba-ba-Ra]

the spacefellowship link doesn't work for me, might a regional restriction.


Sorry, but you've all probably noticed, I'm computer challenged.

Just Goggle: NASA Bubble discovered and for the other one Goggle: NASA ribbon discovered.

[Swami]

Dutchies and iceskating

Once the "lakes' freeze in the Netherlands something weird happens, nearly ALL dutchmen get the iceskating-bug.
And yes today is the day the crazyness starts...

Dutch video:
Schaatsen op natuurijs in Noordlaren
http://nos.nl/video/201532-schaatsen-op-natuurijs-in-noordlaren.html

See them being happy all toghether...

[norman]

......Once the "lakes' freeze in the Netherlands something weird happens.....



many years ago an old hippy enthusiastically pronounced to a room full us that the the frozen ground and water outside had "really changed all the energies" and "could we FEEL it?" and continued to 'explain' that the frozen environment had created all sorts of resonances and harmonics that just simple didn't rise up the levels of perceptibility when it wasn't freezing like that.

I have to admit I thought the guy was just off his trolly at the time but I've found 'religion' myself now too, haha.

[Ahkenaten]

It has been very cold n Northern California recently. Unusually and very cold for an extended period of time along the coastal areas that are usually temperate zones.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well if it makes everyone feel better, San Diego was almost cold enough to snow a few nights ago...

now that we have been able to watch the sun during it's 11 year activity cycle I'm noticing heavy activity from meteors... Most breaking away from the belt of a demolished planet that once was in our solar system...

is there a chance there is a brown dwarf with an elliptical orbit of 11 years that has a magnetic field strong enough to change the path of meteors that close to earth?

What happens when that magnetic field pushes against earths?

we see the little spacecraft always launching in the same direction, does that info give us an idea of where to look for this mysterious dwarf, if that is the direction these inbound objects are coming from?

[Anchor]

I agree, i was reading back in the summer that the gulf stream is dieing in certain parts and temperatures of minus 20 were coming to the u.k. this winter. I told a few people about this and was laughed at...I guess no one's laughing now though.

I had the opportunity to leave the UK in 2006, and I took it... citing immanent economic problems and bad weather conditions.

Same deal - most took the piss and thought I was nuts and it was better for them if I left :0

[Kulapops]

Well if Dennis Quaid can trudge halfway across the world with a dog-sled to rescue his son (in about fifteen minutes of film time), I'm sure I can put up with a few negative temps this winter :0) The ocean ain't going to freeze just yet... but I'd totally agree, we have more to fear from cold than global warming. Plants don't grow half as well... need more fuel... electricity... food... hmm.

When you look at it , though, Life's great. Isn't it ?

I mean, would you miss this? This life, this experience we're having now. For anything ?

I happily believe that all of the conspiracies can't be true. Which means that at any one time, the current one I'm reading might be total b****x . I find this equips me with a beautiful shot of healthy cynicism. Which then allows me to be totally fluffy about other stuff

;)

[Ross]

Yes, you guys are feeling the cold...I will not take for granted my balmy 28c and will endevour to take full advantage of the warm ocean and summer months....I'l try and send the sun and warmth your way...;)

[Operator]

I can confirm that the weather in the Caribbean definitely has changed too ... no snow, not freezing cold of course ... but relatively colder.
Lots of dark clouds and much more rain (each day) ... apart from missing vitamins from sun-light it's a blessing here.

[ScubaMonkey]

BBC TV weather news live in Northumberland this morning reported team had just encountered thunder clap and lightning. Believe this is rare in natural snowy conditions?

I'm in Northumberland in the UK and have been woken this morning by thunder and lightening. I'm amazed, as nothing wakes me up this early in the morning. Went to the kitchen to stick the kettle on and looked out this window, expecting the snow to have been washed away.... Nope, still 2 feet of snow outside.

Thunder, Lightening and Snow at the same time. :flypig: I'm the 28 years I've been messing about on this planet, I've never head of this!

And people still try to say global warming / climate change isn't happening!

[Ross]

Coldest night on record in Wales lastnight; -17c / 0'f...brrrrr

[irishspirit]

I'm in Northumberland in the UK and have been woken this morning by thunder and lightening. I'm amazed, as nothing wakes me up this early in the morning. Went to the kitchen to stick the kettle on and looked out this window, expecting the snow to have been washed away.... Nope, still 2 feet of snow outside.

Thunder, Lightening and Snow at the same time. :flypig: I'm the 28 years I've been messing about on this planet, I've never head of this!

And people still try to say global warming / climate change isn't happening!

No, people say that man made climate change is not happening. There is a MASSIVE difference.

Be Safe

Irish

[Fredkc]

No, people say that man made climate change is not happening. There is a MASSIVE difference.

Yup!
I am real curious how man does global Cooling.

Maybe we all leave the refrigerator door open all night?

[13th Warrior]

Definition of Irony:

To believe chemtrails and HAARP are real and active but, think that Global Climate change isn't a man made phenomenon.

I might also add that the belief that global warming is happening because of the sun; until late this year the sun had been in the longest recorded quiet period.

CO2 levels are up along with particulate matter (air pollution) and water evaporative rates have dropped to the lowest point since this has been monitored (i believe the Romans started this). So, here you have smaller particles in the air for water dropplets to form which create clouds that are more highly reflective and are capable of holding more moisture.With elevated CO2 levels the heat that reaches the Earths surface is better insulated but, you have a more reflective atmosphere that is preventing solar rays from reaching the Earths surface. This is what has been refered to as the double whammy.

The Climate Change scientist that have pointed out these factors believe that the impact would be weather extremes: hotter hots; colder colds; droughts in areas; floods in other areas, isn't this what weve been seing happen? As i've stated earlier, all bets are off once you are aware of the chemtrail spraying program along with HAARP and other weather modification technologies that may exist.

Off course the globalists are going to exploit the situation "never let a good crisis go to waste" this doesn't mean we don't have a responsibility to cut our rate of pollution.

[Dale]

The issue of global climate change is a bit tricky.

Yes, changes are occurring; but there isn't one, single culprit behind this all. No lone gunman, so to speak.

A close friend, with a keen knowledge of astrophysics and geology, had recently told me that global temperatures have increased (along with bizarre weather patterns) due to several factors. Solar activity is involved, as is the industrial world, but the largest player in the game is volcanic activity. A lengthy, scientific explanation followed; but I had difficulty in comprehending the mathematics involved. This individual is well-placed, and highly intelligent; a true genius, in the grandest sense.

[irishspirit]

The issue of global climate change is a bit tricky.

Yes, changes are occurring; but there isn't one, single culprit behind this all. No lone gunman, so to speak.

A close friend, with a keen knowledge of astrophysics and geology, had recently told me that global temperatures have increased (along with bizarre weather patterns) due to several factors. Solar activity is involved, as is the industrial world, but the largest player in the game is volcanic activity. A lengthy, scientific explanation followed; but I had difficulty in comprehending the mathematics involved. This individual is well-placed, and highly intelligent; a true genius, in the grandest sense.


Yes, but we must remember that all Planets in our system are warming up, the cooling down. It is called a natural cycle. However, for us humans, it is another way of gaining power, control and Money! Facts are facts and we cannot get away from it.

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Earth is heating up lately, but so are Mars, Pluto and other worlds in our solar system, leading some scientists to speculate that a change in the sun’s activity is the common thread linking all these baking events.

Others argue that such claims are misleading and create the false impression that rapid global warming, as Earth is experiencing, is a natural phenomenon.

While evidence suggests fluctuations in solar activity can affect climate on Earth, and that it has done so in the past, the majority of climate scientists and astrophysicists agree that the sun is not to blame for the current and historically sudden uptick in global temperatures on Earth, which seems to be mostly a mess created by our own species

http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html

This to support the above.

[irishspirit]

Other planets are warming

"Evidence that CO2 is not the principle driver of warming on this planet is provided by the simultaneous warming of other planets and moons in our solar system, despite the fact that they obviously have no anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases. Mars, Triton, Pluto and Jupiter all show global warming, pointing to the Sun as the dominating influence in determining climate throughout the solar system." (Ian McClintock)

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-other-planets-solar-system.htm

The polar ice caps are shrinking. That would sound like a headline on Earth but it would also appear to hold true on Mars.
In a recent article on the National Geographic website, it would appear that Mars is also undergoing a general warming episode as well - the polar ice caps are shrinking on Mars, suggesting that it is warming up. Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of space research at St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia has observed this effect but has been attacked by the mainstream saying that he is discounting Martian orbital perturbations etc. If only these same scientists would be so diligent in discounting other effects on Earth as well.
Another interesting note from an article from a few years ago on the Space.com website points out that Pluto is also warming up - in spite of the fact that it is currently moving further away from the Sun.
In other climate news, Jupiter is developing a second red spot, which implies climate change on Jupiter.

http://bow-and-lyre.blogspot.com/2008/03/solar-system-climate-change.html

And there are millions of examples of this throughout the internet and in tax books.

[irishspirit]

You wants to talk cold:

http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/30731.html

[Alloya]

BBC TV weather news live in Northumberland this morning reported team had just encountered thunder clap and lightning. Believe this is rare in natural snowy conditions?

we had thunder and lightening most of the day on and off here in cornwall.

[john.d]

Well im living in a camper van now and its way too cold without a woodburner !!!!! Gonna have to bail out .... moving to portugal in a few weeks .

John