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Ron Mauer Sr
8th October 2015, 02:21
“V, the Guerrilla Economist” says we have reached the point of no return in the global financial system. “V” explains, “We are entering a time which I call the collapse point. At the collapse point, there is going to be massive systemic shock. Why? Because you have one paradigm and one system being done away with, which is the dollar. It is going to be replaced by a new system. During that transition period, you cannot expect to trade anything because what do you trade it in? That’s why the Chinese are gearing up their own gold price fix. Once that collapse point happens and the world reels from the systemic shock, the Chinese gold price fix and the BRICS system will be there to fill in that vacuum. That is what’s being set up right now.”

“V” uses an anonymous name because he says if his cover is blown, he would lose business and his global high ranking financial sources. So, what will the collapse look like for the man in the street here in America? “V” says, “I was on a conference call at the beginning of the year. On that call were seven guys and some of the smartest people in the world. They work in various sectors of government and various sectors of the military, and the question was asked what does an economic collapse in the United States look like? The initial, unanimous answer was you can expect anywhere from 25 million to 50 million dead in the first 90 days. I almost fell off my chair. Then they said, it’s real simple. You are going to have people dropping dead from violence, looting, rioting, lack of medication; we are the most medicated country on the planet. People also will be dropping dead from starvation, dehydration and disease. That’s going to kill a large swath of people. If you look at the big population centers: in New York you got 8 million people, in L.A. you got a couple of million. It would be very easy to rapidly build those death numbers up.”

Can you survive the crash here in the U.S.? “V” says, “My people say you need to have enough food and supplies for three months. I say to be safe, you should have supplies for six months. . . . My hope and prayer is “We the People” get this government and these things under control and prosecute these criminals at some point. . . . You cannot stop what is coming. You cannot stop this collapse. It’s too far gone and too far forward. You are not going to stop it, but right now, the race is for who is going to win on the other side. Is it going to be us, the American people? Or is it going to be the criminal cabal that is running D.C. right now. They have already made a pact or a promise to do whatever it takes for them to hold on to power on the other side of this thing. You’ve got to understand, the economy is weak and these guys are weak, as well. They have never been weaker.”

So, does the collapse point happen this year? “V” predicts, “No crash this year. You will have major geopolitical events. The dollar will be undermined. The petro dollar will come to an end by the end of 2015. There will be no market crash this year.”

More (http://usawatchdog.com/we-are-entering-the-time-of-financial-collapse-point-v-the-guerrilla-economist/#more-16292)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pjMw91P_6M

Bubu
8th October 2015, 05:30
how I wish the financial system collapse very soon so we can all go back to sustainable living in harmony with nature. With no money there is no hoarding no slavery.....No cash this year??? no problem lets plant and harvest our own food. Isn't that wonderful? The real problem is that there are so many sitting in the office and money makers and very few farmers.

ThePythonicCow
8th October 2015, 06:18
how I wish the financial system collapse very soon so we can all go back to sustainable living in harmony with nature. With no money there is no hoarding no slavery.....
The financial collapse is almost certainly not the end of money, but rather just a transition from debt money to a different kind of money, relying more on deep integration of surveillance and data mining for control, than primarily on the enforcement of debt contracts.

The institutions (religious, political, scientific, military, corporate, economic, monetary) that have dominated the human species on this planet for the last few millenia, which involved races, religions and nationalities on various sub-continents competing with each other, are being replaced with institutions adapted to a species that is extending its reach to dominate a solar system.

The US was the "last great nation", sweeping up the remaining holdouts. The nationalism of Americans is being intentionally disgraced, to replace with a global connection and global institutions, with global power partialed out amongst various and sundry overlapping regional and specialized institutions, organizations, government bodies, corporations ... under nebulous, global, control and co-ordination.

Money has been, and will remain, one of the great tools of control of humanity. It will not be dismissed ... but its role will evolve, in ways that I don't understand much yet, suitable to a multiplicity of overlapping global and regional institutions, rather than competing "tribes".

take
8th October 2015, 08:50
Y'all ready to get chipped?
"This kind of collapse MUST NEVER happen again"

It's all orchestrated.
Problem-reaction-solution. Order out of chaos etc.
We are living in the new world order. Step by step.

So what to do?

Gather supplies?
Learn to grow/hunt/fish your own food?
Co-operate.
Seek alternative currencies like time currency?
SHARE.

I dunno.

Ron Mauer Sr
8th October 2015, 09:16
Y'all ready to get chipped?
"This kind of collapse MUST NEVER happen again"

It's all orchestrated.
Problem-reaction-solution. Order out of chaos etc.
We are living in the new world order. Step by step.

So what to do?

Gather supplies?
Learn to grow/hunt/fish your own food?
Co-operate.
Seek alternative currencies like time currency?
SHARE.

I dunno.

No doubt in my mind that the planned solution to the pain the control freaks have and will cause includes getting chipped.

An alternative partial solution? Perhaps only if connected to inspired action, not responding to fear or anxiety.

take
8th October 2015, 09:29
Not necessarily chipped, not at least right away, I'm thinking they're gonna use more subtle methods first.. like the NFC payment technology that's already in use. They have to introduce the idea first. They need to sell it. Make the people want it. But they're going to come up with something that is equivalent to chipping.

Lifebringer
8th October 2015, 09:36
The new plastic bank cards have that chip, and no merchant may buy or sell without it under the guise of hacking. Next they will remove the banks and just have the ATM's where you can't physically go in and withdraw. They will fee you every step of the account's usage.They just gave Mom and Pop stores an order to have the swipe that uses this chip as hack proof or the store owner is responsible for loses. This chip is now carried wherever you go and who knows if the chip also has a receiver. You go, it goes unless you go without it. You are now chipped in your wallet or purse.

take
8th October 2015, 09:43
Spot on.
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Bubu
8th October 2015, 09:52
how I wish the financial system collapse very soon so we can all go back to sustainable living in harmony with nature. With no money there is no hoarding no slavery.....
The financial collapse is almost certainly not the end of money, but rather just a transition from debt money to a different kind of money, relying more on deep integration of surveillance and data mining for control, than primarily on the enforcement of debt contracts.

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At least thats their plan but it does not mean its going to happen. During the collapse is where things could drastically change. its a very delicate stage, people will be looking into alternative and may realize for good that money is not needed. Already there is a rise in small independent village. These villages will be the model during the collapse. There will be a surge in the number of these villages to say the least.
Competing tribes? If people can be trained to do that which is not good for them "competition" then they certainly can be trained to do the right thing.

Bubu
8th October 2015, 10:04
The new plastic bank cards have that chip, and no merchant may buy or sell without it under the guise of hacking. Next they will remove the banks and just have the ATM's where you can't physically go in and withdraw. They will fee you every step of the account's usage.They just gave Mom and Pop stores an order to have the swipe that uses this chip as hack proof or the store owner is responsible for loses. This chip is now carried wherever you go and who knows if the chip also has a receiver. You go, it goes unless you go without it. You are now chipped in your wallet or purse.

micro chipping has already began its most certainly one of the solutions they will offer for the problems that will be brought about by financial collapse.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31042477

take
8th October 2015, 10:06
Googled "brics petrodollar 2015 middle east".
Came up with a lot of stuff.
It's happening, and it's been happening for a while.
Hold on to your hats, the next 5 years are going to be interesting, to say the least.

Edit: removed link.

Zanshin
8th October 2015, 11:29
sooo - I just listened to "V" 's rant - it's been a while since he caught my attention on Hagman & Hagman, whose religiosity
left me cold.
Whilst I accept at face value some of his analysis I have a couple of question -

If Iran has more oil than Saudi Arabia why does it need to have nuclear power to process it?

How did anyone process oil before they split the atom?

betoobig
8th October 2015, 17:54
It seems Iran has free energy devices allready, that´s why the sign up for the nuclear agreement. I don´t think so much people has to die in the transsition, that´ll be the planned transition from the elite, but not many things are working out for them... so let´s trust in humanity, in us, to over ride this transitions the best way possible, as much peacefull as possible. We have to stop our 3d thinking in the proccess of looking for solutions. If we look at this issue with the new paradigm (unity of conciousness) we´ll solve whatever.
Love...Evol

¤=[Post Update]=¤

No fear, we are more than ready

Bill Ryan
8th October 2015, 17:59
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'V's been right before, and wrong before. Here, he may be not wrong. :)

Do read this important PDF, by Economist Al Martin... it was written back in 2004, but totally applies now, a decade later. The important part starts at the top of p.5. This is what 'V' is talking about.

Protocols For Economic Collapse In America
http://projectavalon.net/Protocols_For_Economic_Collapse_In_America.pdf

Matthew
8th October 2015, 18:16
I just have to mention thorium. Can't make weapons out of thorium, and safer. Smoking gun of militant intent of uranium 'power'

Operator
8th October 2015, 18:27
sooo - I just listened to "V" 's rant - it's been a while since he caught my attention on Hagman & Hagman, whose religiosity
left me cold.
Whilst I accept at face value some of his analysis I have a couple of question -

If Iran has more oil than Saudi Arabia why does it need to have nuclear power to process it?

How did anyone process oil before they split the atom?

Of course you could use oil to process it ... but that would reduce efficiency.


It seems Iran has free energy devices allready, that´s why the sign up for the nuclear agreement. I don´t think so much people has to die in the transsition, that´ll be the planned transition from the elite, but not many things are working out for them... so let´s trust in humanity, in us, to over ride this transitions the best way possible, as much peacefull as possible. We have to stop our 3d thinking in the proccess of looking for solutions. If we look at this issue with the new paradigm (unity of conciousness) we´ll solve whatever.
Love...Evol

¤=[Post Update]=¤

No fear, we are more than ready

If we really DO have free energy then we need the oil only for plastics and other petroleum based stuff.

You suggest we're ready ... yes I am afraid we are ... for the wrong reasons! Problem, reaction, solution all over again.
We're kind of hoping perhaps that Russia, and now also China stepping in, will get rid of ISIS and will bring back stability
to the middle east. But I'm afraid we just might be looking to the next bunch of controllers.


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'V's been right before, and wrong before. Here, he may be not wrong. :)

Do read this important PDF, by Economist Al Martin... it was written back in 2004, but totally applies now, a decade later. The important part starts at the top of p.5. This is what 'V' is talking about.

Protocols For Economic Collapse In America
http://projectavalon.net/Protocols_For_Economic_Collapse_In_America.pdf

Well, well what a coincidence (if that exists) ... I was cleaning up my disk with investigative reading materials yesterday. I found this document and thought
to myself ... written a while ago but I might need it now :eyebrows:

betoobig
8th October 2015, 19:47
Thanks Operator, i hope you are wrong... if Puttin were part of the elite plan he would have started WWIII already and it doesn´t seem to be the case. Even so, it is something that someone steps out at those high leves. Puttin is also pushing for disclousure (UFO and 9/11) worldwide. He has 85% of Russians with him and many many citizens around the world think he is doing right.
If you are right , then it is clear we want to see changes and that´s what they sale to us. I mentioned in another thread that i hope Puttin and Obama are not wings of the same bird.
Love

pyrangello
8th October 2015, 20:36
A few days ago I watched the 3 part movie of Atlas Shrugged, Which Ayn rand I believe wrote the book in the 50's , all is happening as the directive by her 70 years ago.

Operator
11th October 2015, 21:09
Thanks Operator, i hope you are wrong... if Puttin were part of the elite plan he would have started WWIII already and it doesn´t seem to be the case. Even so, it is something that someone steps out at those high leves. Puttin is also pushing for disclousure (UFO and 9/11) worldwide. He has 85% of Russians with him and many many citizens around the world think he is doing right.
If you are right , then it is clear we want to see changes and that´s what they sale to us. I mentioned in another thread that i hope Puttin and Obama are not wings of the same bird.
Love


Well what do ya know .... here's Stewart Swerdlow in a recent presentation:
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He mentions a lot of interesting things (not all new) in 1 hour of time but pay attention at 50:54
I am not saying this is definitely going to happen but apparently plans are in place.

I've listened to Stewart before ... not sure what to think of it.

betoobig
12th October 2015, 10:39
Amazing, thanks Operator.... So it looks like Obama is elite´s plan A and Puttin plan B... sad, but , at least, we have a divided elite, that´s a starting point ain´t it?...
Sorry for answering the conversation so late.
We are in God/Source´s hands, nothing is under control.
Much love

betoobig
12th October 2015, 10:53
Operator all this issue broght this song to mind.
6bpFqpGHIOM
Love bro

betoobig
12th October 2015, 11:18
PD: when the song says "time to put up a shut up" i take it to myself, don´t get me wrong.

betoobig
12th October 2015, 11:25
I posted this in another thread, since i wachted your vid i have a different feelling.
One more on the account of Puttin. Checkmate: The Central Bank of Russia
http://anonhq.com/checkmate-central-bank-russia/
So the new Russian central Bank is nothing more than the Bank of the Romanovs and so is BRICS????
Love

Operator
12th October 2015, 12:17
Amazing, thanks Operator.... So it looks like Obama is elite´s plan A and Puttin plan B... sad, but , at least, we have a divided elite, that´s a starting point ain´t it?...
Sorry for answering the conversation so late.
We are in God/Source´s hands, nothing is under control.
Much love

No problem ...
I think you're right, their camp is probably divided. We should me make good use of that (Sun Tzu).

Perhaps the only way to bring change is to let them introduce it and then we need to shape it.
Same principle as in Aikido ... Why should we use OUR energy to get the sleeping masses moving?
Let them spend money and effort to get things going but we need to be prepared when things start
rolling .... :wink::victory:

betoobig
12th October 2015, 13:24
They been playing that same game on us for long (divide and conquer)... reality is full ironi, this will be a big one ha ha ha ha ha