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Wind
6th January 2014, 13:17
I guess I haven't posted these here before.
"What is here that cannot be abandoned? Leave everything for a while - your thoughts, your feelings, your aspirations your memory or anything you can see in the objective world. If all these things vanish, you will still know 'I am'.
What is 'I am' ? What is the 'I' that am? Am means 'to be'. Who is the 'I' to be?
Don't think. Feel and look. Let the question show you the answer." - Mooji
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And realize that after all, when all is said and done…I am that I am. Which is the name of god. And when it comes to it, that’s really rather funny. They say in Zen, when you attain satori, nothing is left to you at that moment but to have a good laugh. - Alan Watts
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greybeard
6th January 2014, 13:27
I can not thank you enough for all you post here Wind.
With gratitude
Chris
Wind
6th January 2014, 13:30
I can not thank you enough for all you post here Wind.
With gratitude
Chris
Chris, you're the one who should be thanked. Now where would I be without this thread? Smiling.
Zampano
7th January 2014, 16:16
My top 3 bible quotes:
3. Jeremiah 29:11 “For I know the plans I have for you,” says the Lord. “They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope.
2. Mark 8:34 + 35 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.
For whoever wants to save their life, will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me and for the gospel will save it.
1. Matthew 18:2-6 2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
And my favourite part ;-)
“If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
:p
The first is a message of hope, that for everybody is offered the path to realise its Greater Self.
2nd message: If you want to follow the path of enlightenment, deny yourself, take the "burden" and give up your Ego. Let your Ego "die" or dissolve and then, you can experience true, eternal life.
The end: Be innocent and pure-like the first 3 years of baby, where everything is just experience and no duality. Where there is no ego-before the big programming!
Last sentence is self explaining :rolleyes:
MariaDine
7th January 2014, 17:36
Architects of a New Dawn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQU3iYFET3U
www.keysofenoch.org
J.J. Hurtak, Ph.D., Ph.D., is author of the best-seller, The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch®, translated into fifteen languages.
In addition to the first definition of axiatonal lines, other confirmations in this book that have been fulfilled are the alignment of Orion and the star shafts of the Great Pyramid (Key 108), deep space sound waves coming from Perseus as measured by the Chandra Observatory (Key 216), and a world map showing aspects of evolutionary development such as the homo floresiensis (Key 215) to name a few.
Among Dr. Hurtak's twenty other books are End of Suffering (co-authored with his colleague and physicist Russell Targ); The Scroll of Adam and Eve; and Consciousness, Energy, and Future Science, of which he is the editor. He is joined by his wife Desiree Hurtak, Ph.D. who was one of the illustrators of The Keys of Enoch® and has since co-authored with him several book commentaries on ancient Coptic scrolls such as, The Pistis Sophia and The Gospel of Mary (Magdalene).
Dr. Desiree Hurtak, is a social scientist, environmentalist and film producer. Together they have traveled throughout the world to investigate ancient cultures and structures from the Pyramids of Giza (Egypt) where they used modern remote sensing techniques and sophisticated sound testing devices in the Mayan temples. The Hurtaks are founders of The Academy For Future Science, an international organization that works throughout Europe to teach the cosmology of The Keys of Enoch®
Wind
7th January 2014, 18:17
What is most beautiful is when a human is being undone as an ego, when the belief in being only a personal self is merging with its own source—the universal Being.
When the tribal is absorbed in the universal, the human being has moved from person to pure presence and is in harmony. This is the real Yoga.
Every person belongs to some tribe, a tribe shaped by personal identity and conditioning. But the universal mind has transcended the tribal mind.
On the surface, such a one may appear to belong to some tribe but internally they are the universal Self.
Satsang is the 'changing room'.
~ Mooji
January 2014
www.mooji.org
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Chester
13th January 2014, 01:48
Thank You, Wind, for posting this specific video in post #2499.
in less than 3 minutes Eckhart Tolle sums up the isness and shares the same hope I have at the end of this short clip regarding those who resist the opportunity to know who they actually are - that "timeless, formless one Life."
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Wind
15th January 2014, 16:50
We don't 'have' a life, we are life itself, and simultaneously we are the witness to life and all its expressions as it unfolds.
Reflect: if life is what we have then we will lose it one day, for all possessions are impermanent. Such a belief automatically places us in the position of the body which is time-bound and perishable.
But when we come to the understanding that we are life itself then all fears go, as this understanding places us in the position of consciousness, which is formless, timeless and imperishable.
The belief that we are merely our bodies makes us anxious and hurried, for on a subconscious level we are driven to get as much as we can before it all ends. This has been the ongoing trauma of the human being throughout the ages. However, as consciousness itself, we are not time-bound. Our mind and world becomes a wiser and more peaceful existence, for we know inside our hearts that we are the eternal. ~ Mooji
~ Mooji
15th of January, 2014
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Shadowman
17th January 2014, 01:17
“One Taste” by Ken Wilber: Page 66, entry for Monday March 24th 1997.
With the awakening of constant consciousness, you become something of a divine schizophrenic, in the popular sense of “split-minded,” because you have access to both the Witness and the ego. You are actually “whole-minded,” but it sounds like it’s split, because you are aware of the constant Witness or Spirit, and you are also perfectly aware of the movie of life, the ego and all its ups and downs. So you still feel pain and suffering and sorrow, but they no longer convince you of their importance – you are no longer the victim of life, but its Witness.
In fact, because you are no longer afraid of your feelings, you can engage them with much greater intensity. The movie of life becomes more vivid and vibrant, precisely because you are no longer grasping or avoiding it, and thus no longer trying to dull or dilute it. You no longer turn the volume down. You might even cry harder, laugh louder, jump higher. Choiceless awareness doesn’t mean you cease to feel; it means you feel fully, feel deeply, feel to infinity itself, and laugh and cry and love until it hurts. Life jumps right off the screen, and you are one with all of it, because you don’t recoil.
If you are having a dream, and you think it’s real, it can get very scary. Say you are dreaming that you are tightrope walking across Niagara Falls. If you fall off, you plunge to your death. So you are walking very slowly, very carefully. Then suppose you start lucid dreaming, and you realize that it’s just a dream. What do you do? Become more cautious and careful? No, you start jumping up and down on the tightrope, you do flips, you bounce around, you have a ball – precisely because you know it isn’t real. When you realize it’s a dream, you can afford to play.
The same thing happens when you realize that ordinary life is just a dream, just a movie, just a play. You don’t become more cautious, more timid, more reserved. You start jumping up and down and doing flips, precisely because it’s all a dream, it’s all pure Emptiness. You don’t feel less, you feel more – because you can afford to. You are no longer afraid of dying, and therefore you are not afraid of living. You become radical and wild, intense and vivid, shocking and silly. You let it all come pouring through, because it’s all your dream.
Life then assumes its true identity, its vivid luminosity, its radical effervescence. Pain is more painful and happiness is happier; joy is more joyous and sorrow is even sadder. It all comes radiantly alive to the mirror-mind, the mind that doesn’t grasp or avoid, but simply witnesses the play, and therefore can afford to play, even as it watches.
What would motivate you if you saw everything as the dream of your own highest Self? What would actually move you in this playful dream world? Everything in the dream is basically fun, at some deep level, except for this: when you see your friends suffering because they think the dream is real, you want to relieve their suffering, you want them to wake up, too. Watching them suffer is not fun. And so a deep and powerful compassion arises in the heart of the awakened ones, and they seek, above all else, to awaken others – and thus relieve them from the sorrow and the pity, the torment and the pain, the terror and the anguish that comes from taking with dreadful seriousness the passing dream of life.
So you are a divine schizophrenic, you are “split-minded” in the sense that you are simultaneously in touch with both the pure Witness and the world of the ego-film. But that really means that you are actually “whole-minded,” because these two worlds are not really two-two. The ego is just the dream of the Witness, the film that the Witness creates out of its own infinite plenitude, simply so it will have something to watch at the movies.
At that point the entire play arises within your own constant consciousness. There is no inside and no outside, no in here versus out there. The nondual universe of One Taste arises as a spontaneous gesture of your own true nature. You can taste the sun and swallow the moon, and centuries fit in the palm of your hand. The pure I-I. The great I AMness, breathes to infinity and creates a Kosmos as the Song of its very Self, and oceans of compassion fall as tears from your very own Original Face.
Last night I saw the reflection of the moon in a cool clear crystal pond, and nothing else happened at all.
Wind
18th January 2014, 13:08
This is such an important message, if only all of humanity could understand it.
Beloveds, please listen:
It is not wise to compare your life to that of others, for each life stream is unique and is the expression of pure spirit and being. Know within your heart that your life is tailor-made for awakening in response to the will of the Supreme Being. Even if great hardship comes your way, don't complain, judge or fall into self-pity. Don't waste energy like this. Rather, use these same difficulties and circumstances to sharpen your powers of discernment and to intensify your drive for Liberation and freedom from all psychological conditioning and evil forces. You are here as life itself flowing towards its own divine source. Regard your life as auspicious.
~ Mooji
18th of January, 2014
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Zampano
18th January 2014, 14:24
This 4 part documentary "Inner Worlds, Outer Worlds" was posted some days ago in another thread. Cant remember which one it was.
I think Part One fits very good in here:
Part one of the film Inner Worlds, Outer Worlds. Akasha is the unmanifested, the "nothing" or emptiness which fills the vacuum of space. As Einstein realized, empty space is not really empty. Saints, sages and yogis who have looked within themselves have also realized that within the emptiness is unfathomable power, a web of information or energy which connects all things. This matrix or web has been called the Logos, the Higgs Field, the Primordial OM and a thousand other names throughout history. In part one of Inner Worlds, we explore the one vibratory source that extends through all things, through the science of cymatics, the concept of the Logos, and the Vedic concept of Nada Brahma (the universe is sound or vibration). Once we realize that there is one vibratory source that is the root of all scientific and spiritual investigation, how can we say "my religion", "my God" or "my discovery".
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What I find very interesting is the concept of fractals, starting at arround 6:00. A fractal is a rough geometric shape, that can be split into parts-each of which is at least approximately a reduced sized copy of the whole pattern. Infinitely. Sacred Geometry
At 9:52 it is getting spicy again.
Enjoy
greybeard
18th January 2014, 14:40
Same Soul many bodies.
Dr Brian Weiss talking on Coast to Coast AM.
Past life regression---science saying the same thing as mystics.
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0p1laHwpe0
greybeard
18th January 2014, 22:01
Tesla was very interested in Akasha and ancient Vedic teaching, Vivekinanda was his Indian teacher.
Zampano thanks for that video--very relevant to this thread which cover science and spirituality.
"Inner world-outer worlds" well worth watching.
Mystics knew what science is now just discovering.
Chris
Wind
18th January 2014, 22:05
I can't remember if this has been posted here before, but it's a great interview.
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Shabd_Mystic
18th January 2014, 22:25
My top 3 bible quotes:
3. Jeremiah 29:11 “For I know the plans I have for you,” says the Lord. “They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope.
2. Mark 8:34 + 35 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.
For whoever wants to save their life, will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me and for the gospel will save it.
1. Matthew 18:2-6 2 He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. 3 And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
My favorite:
“Be still, and know that I am God."
~ Psalm 46:10
Zampano
18th January 2014, 23:11
Indeed, ultimate and infinite truth!
Mark
19th January 2014, 00:31
Greybeard, Tim, all, Greetings.
As always, this thread remains timely and, for me, a confirmation in many ways of many things that I have been experiencing.
Expectations disappoint. Because life cannot be predicted. Too many variables, originating from too many separate signifiers within a life that encompass the entirety of creation. Infinite streams of causality that coalesce and manifest within a life in what seem to be, on the surface, the most mundane of manners but which is actually the most magical and perfect of effects that any one of us could possibly imagine. Living through the days realizing that there is magic in no-magic, that the natural is the supernatural, that beneath the sometimes boring and often tedious surface glamour of life as lived lies a wondrous and intimate connection with the Divine that supersedes all imaginative forays into potentiality than our limited intellects - bound by the constraints of experience and training - can possibly conceive of.
I'm not at all sure what I expected. I remember reading, imagining. I recall the yearning to transcend, to move beyond ego, to no longer be constrained by my own personal shortcomings and circuitous patternings of thought and behavior. And, while kensho does indeed highlight these quirks, once life settles back in, in months or perhaps years, the definite change is indeed all-encompassing and includes every aspect of lived reality. Chopping wood, paying the bills, dealing with the children, the parents, the people on the job, strangers in the stores. Life in the modern West continues on, with one seemingly minor change:
It does not matter. None of it. And yet, it does matter. All of it. Paradox reigns and, within it, lies the secret of navigating life's turbulent streams and channels in peace and contentment.
This is not the detachment of the psychopath. This is, instead, a well of intense and continuously upwelling compassion that seems to arise from a source unplugged, accessible at any instant and applicable to any situation, conversation, or even thought. This source is, of course, Source itself. Succeeding Kensho or Satori events only deepen this connection, this realization that the indwelling stillness underlies the mask of personality and intellect, that while engaging the world in all of its intensity and connection, that inner peace remains stable and constant, despite the momentary acceptance of the neuro-peptide swell of emotivity. This innate quality of mental and emotional stability, midway between the extreme polarities of expression acts as the balance between modes of expressiveness, resulting in the inexorable return to center, in sometimes frighteningly swift shifts and here, the terms used are descriptive in the mundane sense rather than actual, experientially.
The lower body's mechanisms resulting in the release of chemicals remains intact. The difference becomes, choice is then paramount, rather than the dictation of biological determinism.
The experience of others emotional extremes becomes more notable as the energetic phenomenon of cording and intimate quantum connection takes on an experiential reality with the realization that not all of the emotions that we as living beings experience are ours. Managing one's own expression and living within the Truth of Beingness that necessitates the individual fulfillment of destiny and intention is a scintillating beacon that comes from that core of blessed stillness within. A pure, shining, light of darkness that has no limitation, no beginning and no ending, constantly accessible, existing just beneath the thoughts and experiences of the never-ending Now moment.
Multiple experiences result in Deepening. Further Centering. The process is endless. Unpredictable, and, yet, as remorseless as evolution. A Return, and yet again, a firmer Grounding within the Present. The merging of the Supernal and the Everyday. The small, normative moments possess the capacity for intense and blissful experience. The larger, more dramatic moments are capable of producing the most enduring and resonant calmness even while the coursing tide of emotions roils beneath. Choice.
Empathic resonance and the direction of attention and intention becomes a flexible tool in the engagement of other souls and the determination of the requirements of the moment. Each interaction becomes an exercise in finding the truth of that connection and manifesting the highest outcome possible. This vibratory exudation resonates with those of similar orientation and even those of an oppositional nature, resulting in the clearing of one's one field and surrounding environment and life changes as a result. Tragedy and Triumph are seen as One. Only the peace, the stillness remains, while the world continues to live and we engage in those aspects of life necessary.
To do, or not to do as one's Life Purpose determines. Always cognizant. Awake, and Aware.
greybeard
19th January 2014, 20:58
Rahkty.
You have a beautiful way with words.
The picture is painted exquisitely, poignantly, lovingly.
Thanks
Chris
gripreaper
19th January 2014, 21:34
What do we do before enlightenment? Chop wood and carry water. What do we do after enlightenment? Chop wood and carry water. Once I realized that meditation is not some place where I "go" to be in Samadhi, but is the full expression of every moment, to be fully in each moment and "be" present in that moment, and fully embrace every nuance of it, that I am a living meditation and am right in the center of my being.
Thanks Rahakt for putting it so eloquently.
Chester
21st January 2014, 05:14
Among Dr. Hurtak's twenty other books are End of Suffering (co-authored with his colleague and physicist Russell Targ); The Scroll of Adam and Eve; and Consciousness, Energy, and Future Science, of which he is the editor. He is joined by his wife Desiree Hurtak, Ph.D. who was one of the illustrators of The Keys of Enoch® and has since co-authored with him several book commentaries on ancient Coptic scrolls such as, The Pistis Sophia and The Gospel of Mary (Magdalene).
Thank you, MariaDine for this post and especially the portion quoted above. I am almost finished with an amazing book about Uri Geller - The Secret Life of Uri Geller by Jonathan Margolis which mentions Dr. Targ's involvement with testing Uri so The End of Suffering jumped out at me and I ordered it and well... fascinating and wonderful. - Again, Thanks
EDIT - added: I know things are going good when I can't even keep up with all the great posts and videos on this thread!!!
Wind
21st January 2014, 10:47
Constantly I am being reminded to "let go". It's not that I am giving up on life itself, but instead I am letting go of the unnecessary delusions such as fear, pride, shame, anxiety and so forth. Earlier those deep feelings have had a purpose on my life and they have guided me to the more deeper spiritual path, but they have already served their purpose. My eternal awareness isn't this or that, it just is and love is eternal.
"The question 'Who am I?' is the most important question a human being can ask. To feel some attraction to this question already signals an auspicious life.
From the birth of this body something inside has been saying: 'I am, I want, I know, I love, this is me, this is mine,' but when asked, What or who is 'I'? no clear answer is given. The 'I' itself appears to know many things but it itself it doesn’t know.
What exactly arises as 'I'? What is the substance of 'I'? These are the most powerful questions that can emerge inside the human consciousness. Why powerful? Because they have the power to break open and dispel every delusion and so remove the ego's grip on us.
Ego is the unreal identity and nature, and makes us feel uneasy in the presence of other beings. It often brings in fear and insecurity, which causes us to hold onto feelings of rejection, jealousy, hatred and desire.
However, by its very nature, ego can also help us to grow in understanding and aspire for lasting freedom by forcing us to seek what is true within ourselves. Satsang speeds up our liberation."
~ Mooji
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greybeard
21st January 2014, 11:16
Very eloquent Wind, says it for "me".
Thanks for your continuing presence on this thread.
Chris
Shadowman
21st January 2014, 22:30
What do we do before enlightenment? Chop wood and carry water. What do we do after enlightenment? Chop wood and carry water. Once I realized that meditation is not some place where I "go" to be in Samadhi, but is the full expression of every moment, to be fully in each moment and "be" present in that moment, and fully embrace every nuance of it, that I am a living meditation and am right in the center of my being.
Thanks Rahakt for putting it so eloquently.
Hi Grip,
Yes, to be fully present is to be identified with being rather than doing. Hence the distinction;
before enlightenment - identification with the relative doer;
I chop wood, I carry water.
After enlightenment - identification with the awareness/witness/presence/being;
Wood is chopped, water is carried.
A story about Bodhidharma and his successor provides further insight. Here a monk is asking an awakened one, Daizui, about why Bodhidharma’s successor cut off his own arm...
A MONK SAID, ”ONE OF THE ANCIENTS STOOD IN THE SNOW AND CUT OFF HIS ARM. WHAT TRUTH WAS HE SEEKING?”
DAIZUI REPLIED, ”HE DIDN’T CUT OFF HIS ARM.”
THE MONK PROTESTED, ”HE did CUT IT OFF! WHY DO YOU SAY THAT HE DIDN’T?”
DAIZUI OBSERVED, ”HE WAS ENJOYING BEING IN THE SNOW.”
It is one of the most beautiful incidents in the history of Zen. It happened when Bodhidharma went from India to China, and remained for nine years just facing the wall of a temple. Many came to persuade him, ”Why don’t you talk to us? We ask questions and you give answers to the wall. It looks very weird.”
But Bodhidharma said, ”Unless the man comes who has the ears and the heart to understand me, it is better to talk to the wall. At least one is not disappointed.” And one day the man came. He cut off one arm and threw it before Bodhidharma and said, ”If you don’t turn immediately towards me, I am going to cut my head too.”
Bodhidharma quickly turned, and said, ”So you have come! I have been waiting for nine years.” Unless a man is ready to stake his very life, the transformation is not possible.
So this monk, asking Daizui, said, ”One of the ancients, I have heard, stood in the snow and cut off his arm. What truth was he seeking?”
DAIZUI REPLIED, ”HE DIDN’T CUT OFF HIS ARM.”
THE MONK PROTESTED, ”HE DID CUT IT OFF! WHY DO YOU SAY THAT HE DIDN’T?”
The fact is, he did. But the truth is, he did not.
There was no effort when he cut off his arm; it was as relaxed as if nothing was happening. Hence the truth is, he did not cut it. The fact is, he did cut it. And Zen is concerned with the truth, not with the fact.
DAIZUI OBSERVED, ”HE WAS ENJOYING BEING IN THE SNOW.”
He was enjoying perfectly. Even if he had cut his head, he was so relaxed, so trustful. And his search was his absolute determination. For that search, to give your arm or your head does not mean anything. Your arms will sooner or later melt into the earth. Your head, your body will be some day put into the earth.
”So what are you talking about?” Daizui said. ”The man did not cut off his arm; he was enjoying it as tremendously as possible.” And the turning of Bodhidharma was such a great point in turning his whole being... he became the successor of Bodhidharma.
So the disciple was, according to Daizui, enjoying. Even by cutting off the arm he was simply offering a present to the master he had found. It was his joy. Hence, as far as truth is concerned it is one thing; fact is another.
Just by the way, I would like to remind you that in the East we have never been writing history. History is an absolutely Western phenomenon. It is with the coming of the British empire that Christian missionaries started writing history about India, but India has never bothered to write history for the simple reason that history will be nothing but facts and facts and facts. And our concern is truth, and truth has no history.
Truth is always present; history means the past. Truth is never past. Truth is always here; hence truth cannot have a history. We dropped the whole idea of history.
- From "No Mind - The Flowers of Eternity" by Osho
Wind
22nd January 2014, 17:39
The ego is meant to be there because without the ego, there would be no such thing as transcendence of ego. Therefore, maya is necessary and needed for there to be self-realisation.
And if there was no ego to transcend, there could never have been a Christ, or a Buddha, or a Mohammed, a Ramana Maharshi, or an Anandamayi Ma. They represent transcendence over ego.
~ Mooji
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greybeard
22nd January 2014, 17:45
The fact is, he did. But the truth is, he did not.
Thanks Tim for posting Osho--
This makes it very clear.
Obviously he was an (H) armless fellow--- sorry could not resist.
Tim post
"Hi Grip,
Yes, to be fully present is to be identified with being rather than doing. Hence the distinction;
before enlightenment - identification with the relative doer;
I chop wood, I carry water.
After enlightenment - identification with the awareness/witness/presence/being;
Wood is chopped, water is carried."
Cant say clearer than that
Thanks again Tim
Chris
Shadowman
23rd January 2014, 06:31
The fact is, he did. But the truth is, he did not.
Thanks Tim for posting Osho--
This makes it very clear.
Obviously he was an (H) armless fellow--- sorry could not resist.
Chris
Chris, you rascal. As we are not resisting...
That’s one way to learn the sound of one hand clapping...
He probably didn’t want to join the army...
speaking of which,
Q why do we have armies?
A to hold up our handies.
arm a geddon outta here before derailing the thread further,
Namaste,
tim
greybeard
23rd January 2014, 08:59
The fact is, he did. But the truth is, he did not.
Thanks Tim for posting Osho--
This makes it very clear.
Obviously he was an (H) armless fellow--- sorry could not resist.
Chris
Chris, you rascal. As we are not resisting...
That’s one way to learn the sound of one hand clapping...
He probably didn’t want to join the army...
speaking of which,
Q why do we have armies?
A to hold up our handies.
arm a geddon outta here before derailing the thread further,
Namaste,
tim
Very funny
You made the day Tim.
Humour rules OK!!!!!
Chris
Zampano
23rd January 2014, 21:16
Stop that-you naughty boys! ;-)
In the the New Age Movement, Thought is the force that creates.
But when you give your small Self up with all that thoughts. Whats left?
Thoughts are nothing, but the world are thoughts. If the thought is nothing, the very thought you are having right now-its nothing.
So all you are saying and therefore the actions you do, come from thought. And doesnt exist.
Whats left?
Everything that ever was
greybeard
25th January 2014, 08:06
Scientists claim that Quantum Theory proves consciousness moves to another Universe at death
A book titled “Biocentrism: How Life and Consciousness Are the Keys to Understanding the Nature of the Universe“ has stirred up the Internet, because it contained a notion that life does not end when the body dies, and it can last forever. The author of this publication, scientist Dr. Robert Lanza who was voted the 3rd most important scientist alive by the NY Times, has no doubts that this is possible.
Beyond time and space
Lanza is an expert in regenerative medicine and scientific director of Advanced Cell Technology Company. Before he has been known for his extensive research which dealt with stem cells, he was also famous for several successful experiments on cloning endangered animal species.
But not so long ago, the scientist became involved with physics, quantum mechanics and astrophysics. This explosive mixture has given birth to the new theory of biocentrism, which the professor has been preaching ever since. Biocentrism teaches that life and consciousness are fundamental to the universe. It is consciousness that creates the material universe, not the other way around.
More on this link.
http://www.transients.info/2014/01/scientists-claim-that-quantum-theory.html#more
greybeard
25th January 2014, 20:09
Kissed by God:
An Interview about Stillness Speaks with Chris Hebard
"This guy had a hugely fun life, money, success.
He lost it all and physically collapsed.
He experienced the 'infinite void' where he 'watched' his thoughts.
He pleaded for God to help him.
Its 45 minutes and worth the time.
"The Power of Now" helped him a great deal, he met and loves Eckhart."
Suggested and comment by Caren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCeVIcwkHcY&feature=player_embedded#at=2657
plotinus
26th January 2014, 11:47
Ego`s and Itches :confused: Funny how so many ego transender`s are single , to live their philosophy when you're married with kids, a job and a mortgage and other social responsibilities, is difficult to say the least. After a near death experience and to OBE`s, death can seem a much easier way out. I chose to fight on and do a great deal of research. Confidence does indeed come from the ego, but it being at peace with your sexuality and your spirituality, like the legs you walk on working together. No one mentions thirty something, the crisis that undermines that confidence. Personally I`ve had to watch so many marriages go down the pan, it`s the children`s faces that show the damage and the prospect that each successive generation is going to be less respecting or respectful. I`ve watched affairs with the opposite sex to bolster failing ego`s and I`ve watched affairs with the same sex to supposedly do the same thing, it never end`s well, why is that ? Sorry if I make you uncomfortable but jumping to spirituality and " Just good friends" doesn`t help the world family crisis syndrome. I`m interested I a super human race with an increasing gene pool and much higher natural immune response, the very opposite of that which is happening. Just maybe nature has offered an answer right under our noses where no one looks in case it smells bad.:embarassed: Maybe mixed sexuality is a blessing not a curse and was intended some marriages could contain more than two people and start real democracy in the family home. Before you run to your long held social belief system for spiritual guidance, remember the book of common prayer "I there by give you my troth" and " when the secret`s of the heart shall be known" Just to remind you of the post I`m responding to "Trust in your heart, value it`s intuition, open to the true, and you will awake to the freedom, clarity and joy of being" If you think you feel you have the will power to transend the ego` trust me the devil still waiting for you to try and he is a formidable opponent it`s still easier to allienate the messenger and return to the safety of the collective social conformity.
research" Child care and the growth of love": WHO , "The sexes " Donald Carr" and many other`s . Plotinus
Chester
26th January 2014, 18:01
The "Devil" and "Devil's Power" was eliminated when it was understood that the Devil resided within me... just as any of these characters we love to personify.
"Spirituality" which still includes the connotation of an individual spirit may still be attached to the ego.
Good guys and bad guys are game pieces within the egoic game.
Transcending the ego leaves one with only us.
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Chester
26th January 2014, 18:07
Scientists claim that Quantum Theory proves consciousness moves to another Universe at death
A book titled “Biocentrism: How Life and Consciousness Are the Keys to Understanding the Nature of the Universe“ has stirred up the Internet, because it contained a notion that life does not end when the body dies, and it can last forever. The author of this publication, scientist Dr. Robert Lanza who was voted the 3rd most important scientist alive by the NY Times, has no doubts that this is possible.
Beyond time and space
Lanza is an expert in regenerative medicine and scientific director of Advanced Cell Technology Company. Before he has been known for his extensive research which dealt with stem cells, he was also famous for several successful experiments on cloning endangered animal species.
But not so long ago, the scientist became involved with physics, quantum mechanics and astrophysics. This explosive mixture has given birth to the new theory of biocentrism, which the professor has been preaching ever since. Biocentrism teaches that life and consciousness are fundamental to the universe. It is consciousness that creates the material universe, not the other way around.
More on this link.
http://www.transients.info/2014/01/scientists-claim-that-quantum-theory.html#more
ahhh and in follow up to my silly post above... Thanks in part to you, Chris, to tim and to Wind and to the other thread contributors - Chester has found himself almost all the time in Turiya and has been to the doorstep of Turiyatita many times yet, so far I have turned away from that door - still enjoying the illusory ego too much hahaha (though fearlessly which I imagine for some of us might make me quite scary!)
Sounds too much fun to pass up the chance "I" could still be (as an individual) unrestricted by the material realm...
just being honest here.
Shezbeth
26th January 2014, 20:30
The ego can be quite entertaining, like a court jester or a naive and impulsive child. ^_^
Chester
27th January 2014, 03:34
The ego can be quite entertaining, like a court jester or a naive and impulsive child. ^_^
can we say "BUSTED"!?!
(in reference to Chester and I dare say tim too, though he has much better control and I suspect Chris as well but have yet to confirm this)
Let me add this - before enlightement, if I tried to make you laugh... it mattered to me that you laughed.
Now (after enlightenment) Chester may try to make you laugh but if you do, fine. If you don't... also fine.
greybeard
27th January 2014, 07:07
Are we Human or are we Dancer? (The Cosmic Dance)
The words are brilliant and appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZdjT1472Y
Chester
27th January 2014, 16:13
The ego can be quite entertaining, like a court jester or a naive and impulsive child. ^_^
can we say "BUSTED"!?!
(in reference to Chester and I dare say tim too, though he has much better control and I suspect Chris as well but have yet to confirm this)
Let me add this - before enlightement, if I tried to make you laugh... it mattered to me that you laughed.
Now (after enlightenment) Chester may try to make you laugh but if you do, fine. If you don't... also fine.
For clarification -
In America the term "busted" can be used to imply that someone's accusation is accurate. In the case of Shezbeth's comment about Court Jester... I would agree that would be true about Chester and in fact, I used to be called, Chester the Jester... so anyways - I was admitting Shezbeth nailed it on the head about Chester and in my conversations with tim, I have found an awesome and perhaps twisted (in a good way) sense of humor dwells with tim and I have a sneaky suspicion greybeard also has a great sense of humor.
I also hoped to add the point that in the past it was important folks thought my humor was funny. And this suggests to me a more egoic foundation was involved.
Now, after enlightenment - if you laugh... great, if not... doesn't matter.
Wind
27th January 2014, 16:50
You are Truth. You can never not be Truth.
You are even aware of your desire to find the Truth. Why? Because you are already there in the position as Truth itself.
Truth is not mere words or concepts but timeless and immutable spirit. If you don’t somehow grasp the simplicity of this, then all the different spiritual disciplines, religions and strenuous efforts to attain Truth will replace what I am directly pointing to. The more indirect ways are a kind of second chance for Self-discovery and are also paths or expressions of the same consciousness.
In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna speaks the Truth to Arjuna right from the very beginning: Neither I, nor you, nor any of these beings were ever not existing, nor will cease to exist ever.
Krishna goes on to say:
'What exists, can never not exist.
What does not exist can never exist.
Never was the spirit born and never shall it cease to be. Though the body passes away, the spirit lives forever.'
But Arjuna did not comprehend this pointing in its essence so the conversation had to carry on. Out of this came the Bhagavad Gita and the whole world rejoices: 'Thank you Lord Krishna for the gift of Bhagavad Gita!'
It is of course also an experience in this divine play, to seek and journey towards God, and to be embraced by God, but if the devotee and the Saint were the highest expression or fruit of the search for Truth, where does the Sage come in?
If the Saint was the goal, where is the place for the Sage?
What is the difference between a Saint and a Sage?
You can say a Saint has attained perfect harmony with God. You may call it the most perfect or highest relationship in the human kingdom.
One is absorbed, but there remains a duality.
What is a Sage then? A Sage is one who does not fight with the Saint's standing. The Sage has understood that before there was the concept of God, there is timeless and unborn Awareness.
I call Awareness the pure, the Absolute God, and the creator—Ishwara, Allah, Jehovah, Yahweh—its expression as the Supreme Being.
Some beings say there is no God, but they feel that they themselves exist. To feel that there is no God while you haven’t resolved your own identity as pure Awareness is the most arrogant, because God is one's own soul and source. God is pure intelligence, pure knowing, pure existence, presence and love.
~ Mooji
https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s403x403/1531581_10152009158298962_1340089567_n.jpg
Wind
28th January 2014, 19:13
To the ignorant, the sense 'I am' means 'I am the body.'
To the Saint, 'I am' means 'I am Presence.'
To the Sage, 'I am' means 'I am the Absolute.'
~ Mooji
Wind
29th January 2014, 05:42
Your eyes are the windows through which I can gaze into the heart of God.
My eyes are the mirror in which you can see God reflected inside your own being.
~ Mooji
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/s403x403/62075_10152013033458962_307669579_n.jpg
Shabd_Mystic
29th January 2014, 15:46
"If any man claims to have attained the highest in spiritual development
that claim of itself may be taken as conclusive proof that he has not attained so much."
~ Julian Johnson, "The Path of the Masters"
Wind
30th January 2014, 02:05
Happy Birthday Beloved Mooji-ji!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/q79/s720x720/1016269_810071425674997_1629939661_n.jpg
The Buddha of Brixton (http://www.lifeartsmedia.com/mooji-the-buddha-of-brixton)
Anthony Paul Moo-Young was born in Port Antonio, Jamaica in 1954. Growing up in a typical Jamaican Christian community, he showed no especial spiritual impulse and lived life like the rest of us. In 1969, he moved to London, settling in Brixton. He became a street artist painting portraits and working with stained glass in the West End before becoming an art teacher at Brixton College.
Mooji’s spiritual journey kick-started with the sudden arrival of a Christian mystic at his door. ‘He initially came asking about my stained glass work and then we’d get talking about Christianity and I felt guided by him,’ Mooji remembers. ‘Then one time I asked if he’d pray for me, and he did, one hand on my head. When he was finished, I found myself saying, “Please help me, please guide me”. And a profound change occurred; from the next day, I felt strangely more sensitive, like a greater clarity and awareness and a feeling inside of lightness and relaxed excitement.’
A year later, in 1987, aged 33, Mooji stopped working and went to live with his sister. ‘Something inwardly was moving differently and I wanted to give space to what I related as a God presence in my heart. There was a tremendous presence within my body, like sitting inside a Russian doll; I felt like I’d surrendered my individuality into this higher presence and let go of being in charge.’
Giving several years to this ‘inner growing’ process, he spent much of it ‘alone in a contemplative mood’. In 1993, he went to India, winding up at Papaji’s feet in Lucknow. His awakening deepened when Papaji publically humiliated him in Satsang, adding: ‘If you wish to discover the truth you must vanish.’ Mooji felt an inner surge of anger. ‘It was like a resistance and I felt ashamed, exposed. My mind was in a storm.’
After the Satsang, he set off in a fury, and then taking a walk, the anger he’d felt instantly dissipated. ‘There was only space, emptiness. I couldn’t find myself, or any context – being someone’s father, partner, a Jamaican, a man – it was not there, yet consciousness remained as an absence of any kind of quality. I could see my body, but it wasn’t who I was. I could see traffic going by and all this, but it was like nothing, like watching a film.’
Returning home from India, he started to sell incense in Brixton market ‘in a detached kind of energy’. People started to pick up on his wisdom. He would write ‘Thought for the Day’ sayings, giving them freely to thousands. People brought him their concerns and he’d invite them back for tea. He started to draw a crowd, people came with friends. And when a woman visiting from Ireland invited him to attend her meditation group, his first formal Satsangs began in Ireland.
Now ten years later, Mooji’s Satsangs are internationally renowned. Catching the first six days of this two-month stretch of Satsangs in Tiru, I witnessed one seeker after another ask him questions about awakening and share their struggles in the hope they too would awaken. Always Mooji answered with tremendous authority, simplicity and articulate clarity as he strived to inspire real ‘seeing’, an understanding of who they were beyond their conditioned identity with ‘I’ as body, mind or ego, to the realisation of their true nature as consciousness, the inherent feeling ‘I am’, ‘I exist’, which everybody knows beyond doubt. And yet for a novice like myself, advaita can be tricky to comprehend.
Following in the footsteps of Papaji and Ramana Maharshi, Mooji shares from direct experience that our experience of life as separate entities is not true. We are non-dual, unified existence; this is the definition of advaita, an ancient wisdom of India. Self enquiry, which Ramana resurrected in modern times, Mooji considers an unsparing tool in assisting the seeker to awaken from false identification with ‘body-mind’ and personality – the cause of separation – to a realisation of who you really are – the real ‘Self’ that lies beyond it – pure awareness.
Wind
30th January 2014, 19:29
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Zampano
1st February 2014, 18:22
Hey Wind!
I had to struggle a bit when I found out for me, that there is no such thing as free will-as Mooji points out in the video. It was like a punch in the gut when I realized it, but now its like: "Whatever, as long as I am in "gods" hands. And I felt like a lot of pressure got taken away from myself. Kind of being the relaxed co-driver in the car, enjoying the ride.
And here a little reminder on how to "practice" I AM
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Chester
1st February 2014, 22:41
Lat night I had a vivid dream. I was not only awareness dreaming. I was Chester. Chester experienced several events that felt like blows to Chester's ego.
Chester has not transcended his ego (yet).
Wind
2nd February 2014, 11:24
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Wind
5th February 2014, 09:03
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greybeard
5th February 2014, 19:37
The Black Whole (The Full Movie) Nassim Haramein
Scientific evidence that everything is one.
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW1gl6_QK-M
Wind
6th February 2014, 07:10
"The world is a marvelous system of wiggles."
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Wind
6th February 2014, 11:05
Wuwei or Non-Doing
The Tao of Letting Go
Wuwei (无为), or non-doing, literally means 'doing nothing' in Chinese.
It is the fundamental of Tao. If you have to learn only one thing from the reading of Tao Te Ching, this is what you should go for. The concept permeates the entire book.
You may wonder why Lao Tzu would advocate 'doing nothing' in this timeless classic.
The answer is very simple: Wuwei is built upon the working of Nature. And nothing in this Universe can be more powerful than the working of Nature -- manifested in all things we see, all things we do.
I mean all things and everything. From something as sacred as life and death to others as mundane as riding a bicycle to attracting the man or woman you love.
Knowing the nature of things and direct your efforts accordingly is like flowing along with the current and it will make achieving something effortless.
Many a time, wuwei, or non-doing, require that you do nothing in order to do something.
For example, if your intention is to grow a plant, do what you should do. Give it the sunlight, the fertilizer and the water. Having done that, begin the non-doing by leaving the plant alone and let it grow on its own.
Don't do anything once the conditions for growing the plant are fulfilled. Otherwise, you would do more harm than good.
In this instance, doing nothing is doing something.
The maxin applies to everything we do. If we let nature take its course , things get done. If we go against it, little -- or nothing -- will get done, no matter how hard we try.
Do what is required, cut down on the superfluous.
Do less, in order to achieve more!
Non-Doing is Powerful
Wuwei, therefore, is not doing absolutely nothing.
What it means is that we, having understood the order of things, act according to the order, and nothing else. It refers to non-action for things superfluous.
Just imagine how much more powerful we can be, if we can focus in such manner. It is just like water consistently dripping on the same spot of a rock. However soft the water is, it can eventually penetrate a rock. It is powerful, although it does not appear to be so?
When we have done what are needed to get things done, stand back. Do not interfere! Let the process work. For the same token, if it is beyond our power to take any action, stand back. Do not do anything. Observe. Act only if it is in the order of thing to do so.
This is non-doing!
In this context, doing nothing is doing something!
Wuwei Harnesses Power of Nature
It is like the planting of seedlings.
After we have worked on the soil and watered the plants, stand back! The seedlings need time and space to grow. Interfering does not help. It impedes the growth!
This applies to all things we do in life.
Instead of revolving around personal desire, as expressed in the go-getter lingo, wuwei rivets our attention on the laws of nature.
It teaches us that in whatever we do, in addition what we want; we must understand the ways of reality. What determines things to be done is not our desire, it is the reality. Unless the laws of nature warrant us to do something, we should do nothing.
In the end, we achieve more by doing less!
Know What Enough Means
Wuwei, nevertheless, is difficult to achieve.
We tend to worry too much, or worry about the wrong thing.
We are inclined to intervene, without considering whether the intervention really helps. This is especially so when we are leaders vested with power and authority.
If we can think non-doing in all things we do, we will be able to know what enough is and is not. Always aim for neither doing too little nor too much.
There are so many things that we long to have in life. If we do not know what enough is, we will never be enough.
In the sense of non-doing, we should not strive for anything, no matter how dearly we want it, if it does not add value to the natural process of achieving the center of our life.
Wuwei Exercise 1
Recall your recent cycling experience. If you don't cycle, recall you recent observation on how people cycle:
1. Look at the process of cycling. You move the bicycle forward, find the balance, sit on it and let the bicycle move on with the momentum.
2. The moment when you riding along with the bicycle, you should let go and let the bicycle and the momentum do the work. This is wuwei, or non-doing. You do nothing, and yet move ahead effortlessly.
3. What would happen if you unnecessarily intervene in the process? For example, suddenly tilting the balance of the bicycle? The bicycle's momentum is lost, you fall. You have impeded the process.
4. To be effective as a cyclist, you must know when to intervene and when not to. Only then that you are able to let the nature takes its course, and move along by harnessing the power of nature. This is the power of wuwei.
Wuwei Exercise 2:
Imagine that you are the CEO of a company. In the meeting, a group of employees is discussing about ways to improve morale in the company. What should you do in order to hear the true feedback from the group? Pick from the alternatives below, and explain why:
1. Let the employees discuss about what they feel, before feeding back to you.
2. Intervene in the discussion and join the discussion.
Suggested Answer:
Before you join in, stand back, and consider whether your intervention would help in getting good feedback.
On some occasions, your intervention would help. On others, it would not. It relies not on what you want, but what works. For example, if your intervention would stifle the flow of the group energy, and the free flow of the group energy is essential in producing the true feedback, then refrain from intervention. Observe non-doing. Do not intervene.
...wu-wei, meaning not to force, refers to what we understand of one's acting accordingly to the nature, of one's moving in order to avoid a stroke, of one's swimming downstream, sailing before the wind, rolling like the waves or one's bending in order to win.
- Alan Watts
Source (http://tao-in-you.com/wuwei.html)
Wind
12th February 2014, 01:51
Relax without laziness
Focus without tension.
Perceive without projecting.
Witness without judging.
Enjoy without craving.
Reflect without imagining.
Love without condition.
Give without demanding.
Receive without possessing.
Serve without self-seeking
Challenge without dominating.
Meditate without identity.
Correct without blaming.
Overcome without pride.
Laugh without cynicism.
Cry without Pity.
Confront without hatred.
Guide without superiority.
Be without self-defining.
Live without arrogance.
Enter without self-importance.
Depart without without regret.
Be one with God.
~ Mooji
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greybeard
12th February 2014, 19:34
GCI February 2014 Full Moon Synchronized Care Focus
Welcome to the Global Coherence Initiative’s February 14th, 2014 Full Moon (23:53 GMT/UTC) synchronized Care Focus. In order for GCI members around the world to participate at a convenient time, we have chosen 4 a.m., 12:00 p.m. (noon), and 8 p.m. Pacific Time (GMT/UTC minus 8 hours) when GCI members in the Global Care Room can do the Care Focus together.* Thank you for being with us.
Let’s start by connecting in the heart with everyone participating in the Global Care Room and radiating love and appreciation to each other.
The Winter Olympic Games in Sochi, Russia are going on and will continue through February 23rd. They are truly a global event, bringing together athletes from 88 countries and over 200 million people worldwide viewing the events. The Olympics are a time for countries to set aside differences and come together in heartfelt connection to celebrate our highest level of athletic excellence.
There is ongoing concern about possible terrorist activity at Sochi. Let’s visualize an energetic dome of light and protection over the Olympics. Let’s also envision the athletes and the people viewing around the world all connected in the heart and creating an uplifting global energy-field that positively benefits humanity and our Earth. Let’s remember these inspirational words sung at the end of the Sochi Opening Ceremonies:
"We are Love; We are One; We are how we treat each other when the day is done."
Care Focus – Sochi Olympic Games
Let’s start by breathing in the feeling of appreciation for two or three minutes to activate our heart coherence.
Now visualize an energetic dome of light and protection over the Olympics in Sochi and fill it with warmth and love from the collective heart energy. See people all around the world setting aside differences and coming together in heartfelt connection to celebrate our highest level of athletic excellence.
Let’s remember the words of the opening song, "We are how we treat each other when the day is done," and commit to bringing the qualities of the heart, such as kindness, care and respect into our day to day interactions, as this creates an energetic environment that makes it easier for others to express kindness, care and connection.
Let’s especially remember to radiate love and compassion to ongoing areas of stress and suffering on the planet, as your heart’s care guides you. It’s effective to do this daily when convenient.
After 15 minutes
You can continue to do the Care Focus in the Global Care Room, if convenient, after the full moon period, as this will help raise the vibratory rate of the personal and collective field environment.
Thank you for your participation in this Care Focus.
GCI Steering Committee and Staff
* (The following website – www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html – is a time conversion site for determining the exact time the Care Focus will take place in your Local Time Zone. Select time: 8 p.m. (date optional). Convert from: Location: U.S.A. – California – San Francisco. Convert to: Location: Select your Country/City.)
To join the GCI Care Focus in the Global Care Room, you can enter the room directly from www.globalcarerooms.org. First time users will need to sign up for access. You can use the e-mail and password that you use for the Global Coherence Initiative website. Then, simply log-in with your e-mail and GCI password.
If you prefer, you can also participate in collective Heart-Focused Care in the Global Care Room App for Facebook.
For those of you who are new participants in the synchronized Care Focus, you can see your green marker and the gold light points of others around the world in the Care Room at the same time. Realize that one gold light can represent a family, a group or an entire audience viewing the Care Room and doing the Care Focus together.
http://www.glcoherence.org/templates/gcp/e-mail/e-broadcast/care-focus/2014/febuary/gci-synchronized-full-moon-2014-02-online.php
skippy
12th February 2014, 19:39
Wuwei or Non-Doing
The Tao of Letting Go
Wuwei (无为), or non-doing, literally means 'doing nothing' in Chinese.
It is the fundamental of Tao. If you have to learn only one thing from the reading of Tao Te Ching, this is what you should go for. The concept permeates the entire book.
You may wonder why Lao Tzu would advocate 'doing nothing' in this timeless classic.
The answer is very simple: Wuwei is built upon the working of Nature. And nothing in this Universe can be more powerful than the working of Nature -- manifested in all things we see, all things we do.
I mean all things and everything. From something as sacred as life and death to others as mundane as riding a bicycle to attracting the man or woman you love.
Knowing the nature of things and direct your efforts accordingly is like flowing along with the current and it will make achieving something effortless.
Many a time, wuwei, or non-doing, require that you do nothing in order to do something.
For example, if your intention is to grow a plant, do what you should do. Give it the sunlight, the fertilizer and the water. Having done that, begin the non-doing by leaving the plant alone and let it grow on its own.
Don't do anything once the conditions for growing the plant are fulfilled. Otherwise, you would do more harm than good.
In this instance, doing nothing is doing something.
The maxin applies to everything we do. If we let nature take its course , things get done. If we go against it, little -- or nothing -- will get done, no matter how hard we try.
Do what is required, cut down on the superfluous.
Do less, in order to achieve more!
Non-Doing is Powerful
Wuwei, therefore, is not doing absolutely nothing.
What it means is that we, having understood the order of things, act according to the order, and nothing else. It refers to non-action for things superfluous.
Just imagine how much more powerful we can be, if we can focus in such manner. It is just like water consistently dripping on the same spot of a rock. However soft the water is, it can eventually penetrate a rock. It is powerful, although it does not appear to be so?
When we have done what are needed to get things done, stand back. Do not interfere! Let the process work. For the same token, if it is beyond our power to take any action, stand back. Do not do anything. Observe. Act only if it is in the order of thing to do so.
This is non-doing!
In this context, doing nothing is doing something!
Wuwei Harnesses Power of Nature
It is like the planting of seedlings.
After we have worked on the soil and watered the plants, stand back! The seedlings need time and space to grow. Interfering does not help. It impedes the growth!
This applies to all things we do in life.
Instead of revolving around personal desire, as expressed in the go-getter lingo, wuwei rivets our attention on the laws of nature.
It teaches us that in whatever we do, in addition what we want; we must understand the ways of reality. What determines things to be done is not our desire, it is the reality. Unless the laws of nature warrant us to do something, we should do nothing.
In the end, we achieve more by doing less!
Know What Enough Means
Wuwei, nevertheless, is difficult to achieve.
We tend to worry too much, or worry about the wrong thing.
We are inclined to intervene, without considering whether the intervention really helps. This is especially so when we are leaders vested with power and authority.
If we can think non-doing in all things we do, we will be able to know what enough is and is not. Always aim for neither doing too little nor too much.
There are so many things that we long to have in life. If we do not know what enough is, we will never be enough.
In the sense of non-doing, we should not strive for anything, no matter how dearly we want it, if it does not add value to the natural process of achieving the center of our life.
Wuwei Exercise 1
Recall your recent cycling experience. If you don't cycle, recall you recent observation on how people cycle:
1. Look at the process of cycling. You move the bicycle forward, find the balance, sit on it and let the bicycle move on with the momentum.
2. The moment when you riding along with the bicycle, you should let go and let the bicycle and the momentum do the work. This is wuwei, or non-doing. You do nothing, and yet move ahead effortlessly.
3. What would happen if you unnecessarily intervene in the process? For example, suddenly tilting the balance of the bicycle? The bicycle's momentum is lost, you fall. You have impeded the process.
4. To be effective as a cyclist, you must know when to intervene and when not to. Only then that you are able to let the nature takes its course, and move along by harnessing the power of nature. This is the power of wuwei.
Wuwei Exercise 2:
Imagine that you are the CEO of a company. In the meeting, a group of employees is discussing about ways to improve morale in the company. What should you do in order to hear the true feedback from the group? Pick from the alternatives below, and explain why:
1. Let the employees discuss about what they feel, before feeding back to you.
2. Intervene in the discussion and join the discussion.
Suggested Answer:
Before you join in, stand back, and consider whether your intervention would help in getting good feedback.
On some occasions, your intervention would help. On others, it would not. It relies not on what you want, but what works. For example, if your intervention would stifle the flow of the group energy, and the free flow of the group energy is essential in producing the true feedback, then refrain from intervention. Observe non-doing. Do not intervene.
...wu-wei, meaning not to force, refers to what we understand of one's acting accordingly to the nature, of one's moving in order to avoid a stroke, of one's swimming downstream, sailing before the wind, rolling like the waves or one's bending in order to win.
- Alan Watts
Source (http://tao-in-you.com/wuwei.html)
Love you Wind. It's because of you that the world is still a beautifull place.
Chester
13th February 2014, 02:51
Tim Freke (again)
http://midwestreal.tumblr.com/listen
Enjoy
greybeard
13th February 2014, 13:57
10 Evolutionary signs that Science and Spirit are converging
By Laron
By the editor of The Waking Times, Dylan Charles - 7 Feb 2014
Long before science surfaced as a force of nature within the minds of human beings, spirituality and superstition reigned. The evolution of the human species and the human mind is a fascinating story and at our present moment in time we are gifted to be able to bear witness to the communion of science and spirituality, which enables us to for the first time in our collective history to dispel both the superstitions of humankind and the hubris of the material sciences.
At the root of the timeless human quest for a deep understanding of our existence is the drive to find thesource of consciousness, that precious gift of the cosmos that animates our bodies and provides a foundation for the intellect. For spiritual people who’ve committed themselves to an esoteric and experiential understanding of our mental universe, it is observed that human consciousness is a vast and endless sea, multi-layered and multi-colored with infinite possibilities. For the scientifically oriented minds among us, this explanation does not hold water as it is too aloof and immeasurable, defying the demand for reproducible data, as consciousness and spirit have as of yet evaded measure by our ingenious devices and analytical technologies.
Much more with links here
http://www.transients.info/2014/02/10-evolutionary-signs-that-science-and.html#more
Wind
13th February 2014, 16:12
Love you Wind. It's because of you that the world is still a beautifull place.
I am humbled by your kind words, skippy. Thank you and much love to you too. :o
This one made me laugh... Alan Watts, Tolle, Mooji and Gangaji tend to usually make me laugh thanks to their loving, humorous and kind presence.
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greybeard
14th February 2014, 08:52
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Wind
15th February 2014, 15:54
New videos from Eckhart and Mooji.
Mooji spontaneously shared this Satsang one evening and requested for it to be shared on youtube within the next few days. Mooji recommends this Satsang highly. In his own words:
"You see, this you can put down as the most important talk a human being can have. But only if it is understood. Only if it is understood, and if it is grasped inside the heart, it is the most profound thing you will hear in the human kingdom."
This video is a sample of a new Series of Satsangs which will be launched in April 2014.
to find out more: www.mooji.org/talks
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Chester
15th February 2014, 21:29
When times get rough, I can always withdraw into my Essential Self.
When I get bored, I explore the illusion.
This is what Tim Freke points to and has termed "paralogical."
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greybeard
16th February 2014, 11:05
Darwin was incorrect.
Cooperation leads to survival, not survival of the fittest, conflict and competition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iprj7PQIqPk
Chester
16th February 2014, 14:53
...for Chester... this one of the best short messages ever from Eckhart Tolle - enjoy.
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You are not in the universe, the universe is within you as "you are the universe."
greybeard
16th February 2014, 17:35
David Sereda
The voice and quantum universe documentary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwb08jKRQ9Y
Wind
17th February 2014, 11:13
This is a couple of years old article, but it hasn't lost it's relevance.
Buddha: How to Tame Your Monkey Mind (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bj-gallagher/buddha-how-to-tame-your-m_b_945793.html)
The Buddha was the smartest psychologist I've ever read. More than 2,500 years ago he was teaching people about the human mind so that they might understand themselves better and discover that there was a way out of suffering. Buddha wasn't a god or a messiah -- he was simply a very wise teacher with keen insights into human nature. He learned much by meditating and learning from his own experiences, as well as by observing the behavior of others.
Buddha described the human mind as being filled with drunken monkeys, jumping around, screeching, chattering, carrying on endlessly. We all have monkey minds, Buddha said, with dozens of monkeys all clamoring for attention. Fear is an especially loud monkey, sounding the alarm incessantly, pointing out all the things we should be wary of and everything that could go wrong.
Buddha showed his students how to meditate in order to tame the drunken monkeys in their minds. It's useless to fight with the monkeys or to try to banish them from your mind because, as we all know, that which you resist persists. Instead, Buddha said, if you will spend some time each day in quiet meditation -- simply calm your mind by focusing on your breathing or a simple mantra -- you can, over time, tame the monkeys. They will grow more peaceful if you lovingly bring them into submission with a consistent practice of meditation.
I've found that the Buddha was right. Meditation is a wonderful way to quiet the voices of fear, anxiety, worry and other negative emotions.
I've also found that engaging the monkeys in gentle conversation can sometimes calm them down. I'll give you an example: Fear seems to be an especially noisy monkey for people like me who own their own business. As the years go by, Fear Monkey shows up less often, but when he does, he's always very intense. So I take a little time out to talk to him.
"What's the worst that can happen?" I ask him.
"You'll go broke," Fear Monkey replies.
"OK, what will happen if I go broke?" I ask.
"You'll lose your home," the monkey answers.
"OK, will anybody die if I lose my home?"
"Hmmm, no, I guess not."
"Oh, well, it's just a house. I suppose there are other places to live, right?"
"Uh, yes, I guess so."
"OK then, can we live with it if we lose the house?"
"Yes, we can live with it," he concludes.
And that usually does it. By the end of the conversation, Fear Monkey is still there, but he's calmed down. And I can get back to work, running my business and living my life.
Learning to manage your monkey mind is one of the best things you can do to transform fear. Pay attention to how your monkeys act -- listen to them and get to know them, especially the Fear Monkey. Take time to practice simple meditation on a regular basis. Learn how to change the conversations in your head. Practice kind, loving, positive self-talk and see how it can transform your fears.
Wind
18th February 2014, 16:48
This video is really helpful to a person like me...
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greybeard
19th February 2014, 21:37
Beyond Reason Documentary Film (2013)
Published on 12 Apr 2013
See all three of Frank Huguenard's Films at http://www.beyondmefilm.com
Beyond Reason is a film that uses the Modern Scientific Method to examine the Modern Scientific Method. Our intellects are bound by our perceptions and what we perceive is limited by our five senses. From what we've learned though modern physics, what we perceive through our five senses is more unreal than it is real which means our intellects can only get us so far. To get to the Truth, we need to go Beyond Reason.
Thanks to Dan for this video
Chris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8fqMtd0ALk
greybeard
20th February 2014, 21:21
The latest from Conscious TV
http://www.conscious.tv/
Non Duality - Traditions (loaded 20 February 2014)
Aloka David Smith - 'The Awakened Mind Is Born' - Interview by Iain McNay (watch this programme)
Practicing Buddhist for 40 years who began training with Zen, practicing with the Venerable Myokyo-ni, at the Buddhist Society in London for 5 years. He then travelled to Sri Lanka in 1980 where he lived for three years as a Theravada monk. While there his spiritual breakthrough took place and it is ...that, that formed the framework of his first book, 'A Record of Awakening.' He then returned to London and matured by living on his own for a number of years. He has written 4 further books, 'Dharma Mind Worldly Mind' 'A Question of Dharma' 'The Five Pillars of Transformation' and 'Blue Sky, White Cloud.' 'At the moment of 'coming back to life' after awakening the 'awakened Mind is born'. Before awaking there is only the ordinary mind, a mind that is always deluded. After years of practice this mind develops wisdom into the nature of itself and becomes more and more refined in that respect until it finally reaches the point where it cannot know any more about itself and falls into equanimity. There is a popular misconception that with awakening the everyday ignorant mind is swept away leaving just the pure wisdom of enlightenment. There remains a paradox which many find hard to accept, the transcendental is awakened but shortly after that, the small mind comes back with all its ignorance and power - everyday living doesn't change much at all. The practice that takes place afterward, the 'breakthrough' is precisely about these two.'
http://conscious.tv/nonduality.html?bcpid=45947084001&bclid=46657464001&bctid=3223685749001
greybeard
21st February 2014, 19:30
Gregg Braden - Now's the Time to be Making our Choice's
Published on 11 Jan 2014
Author Gregg Braden discussed the science behind miracles, the existence of an energy field that connects everything, and the power of heart based emotion,
Our hearts generate strong electric and magnetic fields in our body which can change the structure of atoms; through heart emotions (as opposed to just thoughts) we contribute to the larger field around us, and can create peace and healing,
Recent discoveries about how the heart works show that it's in communication with the brain all the time-- a kind of coherence. Interestingly, he noted that the layers of the earth and its atmosphere (such as the ionosphere) share the same frequency as the heart/brain coherence.
The Global Coherence Project is being developed to monitor how positive heart-directed intentions affect the field. Life affirming feelings help to perpetuate the field, whereas negative emotions contract the field
Clip taken from The Field, Miracles & Heart Emotions, on CTC AM 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_v6mtnqBl8
greybeard
22nd February 2014, 10:53
You are the Eternal Universe
Alan Watts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FELdBsixGg
Zampano
22nd February 2014, 18:51
Have a look at this post
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66293-What-book-changed-your-life&p=800324#post800324
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Steve Jobs and Paramahansa Yogananda
Wind
28th February 2014, 11:09
Be here as Presence. Then you can absorb my pointings quickly because we are in the same frequency field.
You are learning through frequency rather than through your head. Your heart and mind are corresponding energetically and already know everything I speak, you see?
Expand in the power of knowingness or intuitive perception. And very easily you will become aware of yourself as Being rather than merely a three dimensional entity. Something more spacious is being revealed, more intuitive, always unchangingly now. It is just here. And it is never in battle with the mind. It is pure and timeless.
The body is existing in its natural innocence. Beautiful. It does not have any ambition to be famous. It just Is. It the house of the being, the body of the Being. There is nothing to criticise. All is the Is-ness and everything is functioning spontaneously. You are in real time and harmony with the universe. This is one’s natural state. Experience, recognise and acknowledge That.
You are here.
~ Mooji
February 2014
www.mooji.org
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Chester
1st March 2014, 04:12
I had to type these words or the forum would not accept my post (done!)
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greybeard
5th March 2014, 07:38
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greybeard
5th March 2014, 07:59
Choose peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wJ-js_NLV8
nzreva
5th March 2014, 15:09
Hi friends
To put it into context.
There are two kinds of ego.
One as defined by the Medical/ Psychiatric profession.
is Healthy self esteem.
It is good to take pride in the way we do things.
When one is comfortable with oneself and what one does then fear decrease and it is easy to be in this world with all its trials and tribulations at that point there is an over lap into the second definition of ego, the spiritual one.
The ego in spiritual terms could be defined as "Edge God Out"
Every spiritual teacher without exception says that to fully know one true self the ego must be transcended.
There were some very good contributions to this thread on Avalon and I hope that the same will apply here.
Celine has said that the complete thread from Avalon will be reposted here but there are technical problems in doing this at the moment, hopefully these will be resolved.
Time being fresh insights are very welcome.
Chris
Namaste.
My husband Clarence Ritsema, who is a retired professor of Sociology, also has a degree in Theology Anthropology and Psychology, I ask him to read your statement, I as a crisis counselor most of my adult life and my husband disagrees with your statement.
Freud claimed the mind was divided into 3 parts, Freud, who coined the term, imagined the Ego as a mediator between the baser Id and the hyper-moral Super-Ego. The Ego is the part of us that interprets the outside world and helps us think. “…The Ego is that part of the Id which has been modified by the direct influence of the external world … The Ego represents what may be called reason and common sense, in contrast to the Id, which contains the passions … in its relation to the Id it is like a man on horseback, who has to hold in check the superior strength of the horse; with this difference, that the rider tries to do so with his own strength, while the Ego uses borrowed forces” (Freud, The Ego and the Id, 1923)
Erik Erikson's theory of psychosocial development is one of the best-known theories of personality in psychology. Erikson believed that personality develops in a series of stages. Unlike Freud's theory of psychosexual stages, Erikson's theory describes the impact of social experience across the whole lifespan.
Which brings me to the point I am making, It is the ID out of control or the underdeveloped personality that is the problem, which is the reason Sociology developed. Freud's view did not consider the social person outside themselves as Erikson did. The Ego, it seems, is not the problem. I am a Minister so I would consider myself a spiritual leader, as such. Your statement, "Every spiritual teacher without exception says that to fully know one true self the ego must be transcended." Since you don't know all spiritual leaders I take exception to your statement. I do know a few with PHD"s and they would you disagree with you. To know your self? Self at birth is not the self at the end of a full life span. Their is no real self to know, we are ever changing and developing into a mature person. Some people take longer than others but in the end, maybe many life times in the end we become mature. Patience is the key for all in the cosmos.
Erikson's Theory of Psychosocial Development in Infancy and Early Childhood, has helped me, in counseling with others, to develop a person as a whole productive caring giving person, allowing them to not follow a set of rules but to know the higher power who wants them to be in a family that does things out of love, first for self and then for others, and not for eye service.
IN conclusion, I see the ID as the problem, when one uses the ID for pleasure and does not hurt others in the process the Ego falls into place where it should be, loving self first, without harming others, so one can love others.
greybeard
5th March 2014, 16:29
Hi Nzera--respectfully the thread opening post is four years old and the whole thread is in the context of enlightened teachers.
So yes the opening statement stating all spiritual teachers etc is inaccurate.
However most enlightened spiritual teacher that I have read, or from the many quotes and videos on this lengthy thread do point to the ego being identification with the me story.
The enlightened teacher is not allied to any religion.
The teaching of enlightenment is that the individual self is an illusion.
Non-duality is literally ----"Only God is" and you are That.
There is no where that God is not.
There are many videos, quotes, on the thread--years of contributions.
Something for most looking for enlightenment.
Nothing to do with psychology or psychiatry though some of the videos feature the late Dr David Hawkins who was a leading psychiatrist in America.
Regards Chris
Chester
5th March 2014, 17:40
Which brings me to the point I am making, Is it (ordered reversed for proper clarity) the ID out of control or the underdeveloped personality that is the problem, which is the reason Sociology developed.
Neither - It is that most have not realized the Self. I make the odds high that unless one comes upon this realization, questions like this will arise.
Sociology (as any "ology") is an attempt to define and make sense of something which is eventually meant to make sense of what can't be.
Clearly Freud never did.
Jung though is another matter.
Wind
5th March 2014, 18:07
5 Myths About Enlightenment (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/03/04/5-myths-about-enlightenment/)
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1. Enlightenment is a long journey that takes many years, decades, or even lifetimes to achieve.
Enlightenment is realizing that what you are, have always been, and in fact cannot help but be is pure Consciousness. That you are not the “self-image” you have of yourself, nor your thoughts or even your body. Rather, your original nature, your unconditioned essence, is timeless Awareness.
Because it’s fully what you already are, you cannot “do” anything to get there. Thus, the journey to enlightenment is one of no distance. An analogy would be: How far does the ocean need to go to find water? The answer is no distance. It just needs to clearly recognize what it already is.
The reason it is so challenging to awaken to our original infinite nature is because we have been told/conditioned since birth that we are our body and/or the image we have of ourselves in our mind, i.e., our “self-image.” We are not. What are we? We are THAT which silently observes or is AWARE of everything we experience. This includes all thoughts, feelings, sensations, images and perceptions that arise within, as well as “the outside world” (in fact, we could say that we are not in the world, the world is in us!). For example, how do you know you have a body? You know because you are aware of it. How do you know you have thoughts? You know because you are aware of them. Simply put, your nature is AWARENESS itself.
2. I will be enlightened as soon as I learn how to stop my thoughts.
This is a common misconception. The reality is that you don’t need for your thoughts to stop to awaken; you just need to stop identifying with them. But this is not so easy because most of us have spent a lifetime doing just that. The key is to observe them; to silently watch them. Get some space between you and the arising thought and notice that you are present before the thought, during the thought, and after the thought, so the thought cannot be you. In fact, are you not fully present even when no thought is arising?
3. Enlightenment means I will be free of the ego.
The ego is necessary for the body’s survival and is what tells us when to run from danger or defend ourselves. However, although we rarely find ourselves in actual physical life or death situations, the ego approaches our psychological disturbances with this same fight or flight response. If someone insults us or cuts us off in traffic, the ego kicks in and feels threatened.
The key is to see that we are not our ego. By observing it as it gets triggered we can start to get some space between us and it. The more space, the less pull it has over us. Pretty soon the ego begins to feel like a spoiled child who is always whining and complaining because it wants what it wants when it wants it. The ego’s mantra is, “Me, me, me!”
Rather than get angry at “the child,” we can begin to love it and assure it that it’s safe. By not taking our ego so seriously, we literally begin to lighten up. Again, no need to get rid of the ego—clearly seeing it is not you is enough.
4. Once I am enlightened my life will be free of problems.
When one is awakened, it’s not that only “positive” things come your way, rather it’s that you stop labeling things as positive or negative because all is seen as Life unfolding exactly however it unfolds. You realize you are not in control of Life, Life is; and you are not separate from Life. (Even if we feel separate, that doesn’t make it so. A wave can feel separate from the ocean all it wants; that doesn’t make it so.) And so you learn to trust Life fully and completely. You learn to “go with the flow” and enjoy the journey. A roller coaster has both UPS and DOWNS. You cannot have a roller coaster with only UPS!
As you get older you realize that Life goes by very quickly, and so the urge to whine and complain about every little thing suddenly becomes a waste of energy—energy that you no longer take for granted.
Remember, everyone is a good captain when the seas are calm… so let us not shy away from storms. We can view a storm as an insurmountable problem or as a challenge to go deeper and find out what we are truly made of. As the saying goes, ships were not designed to stay in the harbor. Regardless of the outcome of the situation, you will learn something about yourself that you didn’t know. And when you awaken, you realize that what you are at your core can never be harmed. As the Bhagavad Gita says regarding your true nature:
“A sword cannot cut It, nor can fire burn It; water cannot wet It, nor can wind dry It.”
5. I will know that I am enlightened because I will be in Bliss 24/7.
While bliss or supreme happiness is wonderful experience, like all experiences it will come and go. The idea that being enlightened means being blissed-out all the time is simply not true. To be awakened means to be fully authentic with the present moment, HOWEVER it appears.
Because the enlightened being is not living in the past or future, they fully embrace whatever thoughts, feelings, sensations or emotions are presently arising. So, for example, if they see an animal being abused by a human, they may indeed cry at seeing such an unconscious act. What we discover is that what we are is the SPACE for whatever experience is presently happening.
Final Thoughts
It’s important to realize that you cannot locate Consciousness, you can only BE it. Just like an eye can see everything but itself, whatever Consciousness is aware of is not IT. For the moment you say “this” is Consciousness, you then have to ask, what is aware of this? See the dilemma?
And so in Advaita Vedanta the Sanskrit term, “neti neti,” meaning “not this, not this” is often used as practice to finding your way back home. For example, you would look at a tree and ask, “Am I the tree or what is aware of it?” Since you are aware of the tree you know that you cannot be the tree. And you do this with every object your eyes land on, including your body.
At first the mind will try to say, “But ‘I’ am aware of this!” But then you have to ask, “And what knows or is aware of this ‘I’ that claims to know the tree?” And the mind says, “me!” And you ask, “And what is aware of this “me”? If you keep asking, “And what is aware of this?” to whatever answer the mind comes up with, eventually the mind quiets down as it sees that it has run out of answers. And so, you end up in silence.
The key is you have to actually do this exercise so that the understanding goes from being intellectual to experiential. It is known not by believing what someone else says, but is confirmed by your own direct experience. And you keep doing it over and over until it becomes obvious that whatever you are aware of cannot be you. And suddenly, it can dawn on you that what you have always been looking for is THAT which is looking… and you rest in/as this.
Wind
5th March 2014, 19:19
"Love does not need an intention or object to love. It is the highest expression of the being in recognition of itself. It is the unity of Being. Your being just radiates this love - effortlessly. You are just your Self.
It is a state of emptiness. It is there when you leave your luggage outside. Luggage means who you think you are and who you want to be. Then it simply awakens in you because there is a space now for the beautiful One, the presence of the Holy Father, the Holy Mother, the Holy Spirit, the One Supreme consciousness. Surrender. Be empty of 'you'. And It shines in that space - timelessly."
~ Mooji
vajrakagyu
7th March 2014, 14:06
The Karmapa on Enlightenment.
Ga2iXaE2tEs
I hope this could be a useful addition to the conversation.
Greetings and love to all.
greybeard
7th March 2014, 14:11
Welcome vajrakagyu
Your contribution is appreciated.
There is no specific, or single path, the focus of the thread, so all contributions are valued.
Love Chris
blotter
10th March 2014, 13:40
The heart chakra opened for the first time on the new moon/Tibetan new year. If the story that is written is correct - and I've got no reason to doubt it - then transcendence will come sometime after this equinox. I projected for the first time during the new moon and it's no problem recreating this, just days removed from this first experience. Vivid and relaxed into itself.
My assent was quick and to be honest the old me wasn't ready. As the story goes, I went away this winter to leave an old life behind - from meditating for the first time in July, to completely immersing myself over this past winter. When the heart chakra opens there is no bargaining. There is no more lying about what you see behind people's eyes, because the lie in you is dead. I read (probably here) that you can see a person's greatest fear when they look in your eyes; I'm not sure what I thought when I read this, but I now know it to be true.
I will let compassion guide me, for there's no other way.
Chester
10th March 2014, 14:49
It seems that when one begins to experience life as a never ending wondrously beautiful symphony... perhaps one has actually and finally arrived.
AngelArmy
10th March 2014, 14:59
The ego in spiritual terms could be defined as "Edge God Out"
I heard a similar saying but it was "ease God out"
Catsquotl
10th March 2014, 18:56
I thought somewhere in the beginning of this thread I discussed/defended the existence of an ego. With Pie'nEal if memory serves me right.
Still I couldn't find it so that may as well be a different thread maybe even on an other forum. Anyhow A few years down the road I have to agree that the EGO as a thing does not exist. A week ago I returned from my first 15 day Vipassana retreat and found a lot of stuff but no ego.
After reading parts of a book called Budha's brain I learned that there is no part of the brain associated with an ego either. It seems that neurologically when a person does a "self" related activity the brain fires all over creating a notion of self right there and then. Based on memories,past experiences and whatever the brain can use to create the an image of self..
During the retreat I learned that a mind that is immersed in the present, ever changing now. Will do a lot of things, throw tantrums in shameless ways to uphold the idea of an ego.
I like Winds explanation in an earlier post about the monkey mind. So from a day to day perspective the ego is an illusion that is helpful to get stuff done, But in reality there is no such thing. Just a fabricated set of ideas that form a personality, usefull yes to interact with people. But not really there so there is nothing to trancend..
With Love
Eelco
greybeard
10th March 2014, 19:12
Yes Elco you are correct.
The ego is a fiction of the imagination.
Basically identification with a me story.
The thread being ancient--laughing---was actually started God knows how many years ago on the original Avalon.
It hopefully shows a progression on this path.
I now know its a pathless path--as any path leads away from where you are.
The thread meets people where they are-- different stating points.
If you said to me when I started---"Only God is" I would have denied this -ran a mile.
Now I hear the likes of Adyashanti saying-- "There is no person--there never was a person"
That of course is not what the "me" want to hear.
If I was to start the thread now I would possibly name it "Enlightenment and related matters."
The thread has broadened so much to include Science---the likes of Nassim Haramien -- David Sereda-- Gregg Braden and anything else that is in anyway relative to consciousness.
I would like to thank new posters on this thread for their valued contribution.
Chris.
Ps if a Mod reads this I would appreciate the title being changed to
Enlightenment and related matters
That more reflects the content.
Chris
truthseekerdan
12th March 2014, 20:39
Manny blessings and much love to all of you on this thread and forums. As many of you already know I'm mostly a visitor nowadays on Avalon forums, due to my commitments and focus in other interesting and exploring areas such as transcendental (of the ego or logical-mind) enlightening meditation, and more.
During my daily research routine I discovered this eye opener radio interview (3 months old now), that resonates very well with my meditation-trips of knowledge and experience I acquired recently. The person interviewed is a remote viewer by the name Gerald O'Donnell, maybe less known - but I'm pretty sure I know why is that...
Below is a summary of the online radio interview, and the link for more info. One can also download or stream the interview at the site. I recommend downloading the mp3 file due to the length of the show. Enjoy and please share!
Show Highlights:
-Vibrating points of light; this is what we are
-Thought is not restricted by space and time
-What does it mean by having a ‘higher intuition’ ?
-The strength of our moods and thoughts; how what’s going on inside ourselves and others influence everything and everyone
-Tricks to getting back to being a happy light beam; shielding yourself from crazy energies
-What is the trick to not reacting to others?
-Gerald explains how the flood in the Bible is actually a ‘flood of consciousness’
-Our co-creative ability; just because the world is going crazy doesn’t mean you must buy into those programs
-Facing the living God by being connected to nature
-We’ve never been so separated from the Source as we are today
-Changing our perception of the world from within
-How Hollywood reflects who we have become
-Turning away from the dark side; why even watching chaotic movies should be separated from us
-Turning your enemy into your friend; loving the light of the evil of the person wanting to hurt you
-Sucking the energy out of one another; why do people do this?
-Keeping your mind on the Creator
-A listener wants to know Gerald’s opinion of Major Ed Dames remote viewing prediction of the Killshot
-The effects of our thoughts on our bodies; the idea we are preprogrammed and have no control of our DNA is ridiculous
-The center of the creator is everywhere; the periphery is nowhere
Link: http://oneradionetwork.com/spirituality/gerald-odonnell-the-center-of-the-creator-is-everywhere-the-periphery-is-nowhere-december-12-2013/
P.S. I would like to share soon some info and knowledge that I received during my meditations - with Chris' permission of course ~ :)
greybeard
12th March 2014, 22:23
Thanks Dan for the link etc.
I have absolute trust in your input here--you have no need to ask permission.
With the love for you my friend.
Chris
Chester
14th March 2014, 17:17
The ego in spiritual terms could be defined as "Edge God Out"
I heard a similar saying but it was "ease God out"
I LUUUUVVVV your Avatar pic! Unfortunately, I keep inviting the Aliens TO tea... (ok, coffee in being completely honest).
Edge, ease, eradicate, eject, elect to push... and on and on and on.
Its FUN to be stark, raving enlightened, no?
Chester
14th March 2014, 17:22
I thought somewhere in the beginning of this thread I discussed/defended the existence of an ego. With Pie'nEal if memory serves me right.
Still I couldn't find it so that may as well be a different thread maybe even on an other forum. Anyhow A few years down the road I have to agree that the EGO as a thing does not exist. A week ago I returned from my first 15 day Vipassana retreat and found a lot of stuff but no ego.
After reading parts of a book called Budha's brain I learned that there is no part of the brain associated with an ego either. It seems that neurologically when a person does a "self" related activity the brain fires all over creating a notion of self right there and then. Based on memories,past experiences and whatever the brain can use to create the an image of self..
During the retreat I learned that a mind that is immersed in the present, ever changing now. Will do a lot of things, throw tantrums in shameless ways to uphold the idea of an ego.
I like Winds explanation in an earlier post about the monkey mind. So from a day to day perspective the ego is an illusion that is helpful to get stuff done, But in reality there is no such thing. Just a fabricated set of ideas that form a personality, usefull yes to interact with people. But not really there so there is nothing to trancend..
With Love
Eelco
Check tim's thread... I bet this is where the discussion occurred - here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43027-Enlightenment-A-direct-succinct-account-of-what-occurs...)
greybeard
16th March 2014, 09:41
It would seem the difference between religion and spirituality is that.
Religions tend to focus on God out there--Transcendent--almost separate from us.
Spirituality is about God within --imminent-- yet encompasses God seemingly external.
In other words spirituality leads towards the discovery of God as Self.
One without a second---non-duality.
Chris
GarethBKK
16th March 2014, 12:36
It would seem the difference between religion and spirituality is that.
Religions tend to focus on God out there--Transcendent--almost separate from us.
Spirituality is about God within --imminent-- yet encompasses God seemingly external.
In other words spirituality leads towards the discovery of God as Self.
One without a second---non-duality.
Chris
Hi Chris,
You may have come across this piece from Yes magazine on the three cosmologies. If not, enjoy.
http://www.yesmagazine.org/happiness/religion-science-and-spirit-a-sacred-story-for-our-time/copy2_of_Untitled7.jpg/image
Religion, Science, and Spirit: A Sacred Story for Our Time
Is it possible that the human future depends upon a new sacred story—a story that gives us a reason to care? Could it be a story already embraced by a majority, although it has neither institutional support nor a place in the public conversation?
http://www.yesmagazine.org/happiness/religion-science-and-spirit-a-sacred-story-for-our-time
greybeard
16th March 2014, 12:52
Thanks Gareth---It is in the distant stirring of memory--but im enjoying refreshing.
Regards
Chris
Wind
16th March 2014, 15:53
The Real cannot be discovered outside yourself. All that which appears through the body, mind and senses is phenomenal and time-bound. Don't try to become the Self. While the seeker is busy trying to reach the Self, he misses the goal of his search, which is already complete and ever present as his inner-most Being. Though the usual tendency is to identify with the seeker-mind...DON"T. Instead, recognise that behind the one trying is the effortless One. Confirm this. It is timeless and eternally perfect.
If you miss It, you are going to find yourself on a 'merry-go-round' and it is not that merry, I tell you. Find and be that inner Silence which is never on the move. Leave aside all intentions, notions and desires. Even the desire for freedom must be dropped. Become entirely empty and don't start picking up any new ideas. Paradoxically, the most powerful force in the universe is doing nothing at all.
Go deep. Find and Be the Real!
~ Mooji
15th of March, 2014
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ThePythonicCow
16th March 2014, 16:15
Ps if a Mod reads this I would appreciate the title being changed to
Enlightenment and related matters
Thanks to another member alerting me, I finally read this :).
Thread title has been changed.
gripreaper
16th March 2014, 16:28
Good Morning Chris,
I was drawn to your thread this morning, as I noticed the thread title change. It made me think, wow, one of the oldest threads on Avalon from one of the longest standing original members has been changed...gee, I wonder why? What has changed in the four years since this thread was started.
Would you be so kind as to do a synopsis of why you changed the thread title?
greybeard
16th March 2014, 16:49
Good Morning Chris,
I was drawn to your thread this morning, as I noticed the thread title change. It made me think, wow, one of the oldest threads on Avalon from one of the longest standing original members has been changed...gee, I wonder why? What has changed in the four years since this thread was started.
Would you be so kind as to do a synopsis of why you changed the thread title?
Hi Gripreaper
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-and-related-matters.&p=807229&viewfull=1#post807229
sort of covers it.
Also many videos posted here appeared quickly in other threads and I realised locals perhaps stopped coming to this thread as they though it was just about ego and enlightenment.
It also bothered me, ever so slightly, that while there are on average well over 800 hits a week on the thread, very few Avalon members visit the thread.
The thread is very much about science and spirituality which is what Avalon represents.
Thanks for your interest and kind comments my friend.
Chris
Pasted from earlier post.
"The thread being ancient--laughing---was actually started God knows how many years ago on the original Avalon.
It hopefully shows a progression on this path.
I now know its a pathless path--as any path leads away from where you are.
The thread meets people where they are-- different stating points.
If you said to me when I started---"Only God is" I would have denied this -ran a mile.
Now I hear the likes of Adyashanti saying-- "There is no person--there never was a person"
That of course is not what the "me" want to hear.
If I was to start the thread now I would possibly name it "Enlightenment and related matters."
The thread has broadened so much to include Science---the likes of Nassim Haramien -- David Sereda-- Gregg Braden and anything else that is in anyway relative to consciousness.
I would like to thank new posters on this thread for their valued contribution."
Chris.
Wind
16th March 2014, 20:27
"You don’t have to forcefully try to get rid of your thoughts.
Let them play but turn your attention away from them and let it rest inside the Awareness alone.
Like this, thoughts lose their power and subside from lack of the fuel of attention. Just stay as the Awareness. And when I say ‘ stay as the Awareness’, I am not referring to an action to be taken or the product of some method or practice.
Actually, there is no one 'staying' as the Awareness. This pointing is to bring the attention to where Awareness is and let it merge there.
Finally, this thought of staying there must drop away also. You just come to the full recognition that all there is is Awareness and your Self is That. You must first enter and be one with the state of Presence and Being and you will spontaneously know.
Here, we are one."
~ Mooji
Wind
16th March 2014, 23:15
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One-on-One with Eckhart Tolle and Karen May. At Wisdom 2.0 2014. http://www.wisdom2conference.com.
Chester
17th March 2014, 02:37
The ego in spiritual terms could be defined as "Edge God Out"
I heard a similar saying but it was "ease God out"
I LUUUUVVVV your Avatar pic! Unfortunately, I keep inviting the Aliens TO tea... (ok, coffee in being completely honest).
Edge, ease, eradicate, eject, elect to push... and on and on and on.
Its FUN to be stark, raving enlightened, no?
Chris - Sometimes the written words may not properly convey the spirit-moment behind them. I have been tremendously joyful of late. I am able to get all but totally lost within the stories of us actors (including my own) because I find myself always holding the hand of... of that. When things get hairy, that hand is always yanking me out of the looming drama. That is what I meant by the odd comment above.
Eckhart Tolle describes this in Wind's last post -
Being "continuously aware of the underlying presence within you." That has turned my energy up to an amplitude that is off the charts and I describe this as "stark raving enlightened."
Wind
19th March 2014, 06:36
Contemplate deeply what I am about to say now. Grasp it and you will be out of the mind-trap for good! You say you are trying very hard to be the Presence.
But That which is observing the effort to be the Presence, is that making any effort?
The flip-side of the ego is pure Awareness. Flick over into the Awareness position in which the effort to be the Presence is seen in much the same way as you would watch a movie of yourself. The one watching the movie is separate from the image of himself which is unreal.
There is a natural detachment present. That which is observing the effort, can it be other than your Self, the living, unchanging Source? Pay attention to yourself as the serene and formless Seer instead of identifying with the frustrated seeker. Do you feel the difference? Confirm your Reality here as the formless observing. You are already the ' somewhere' you are trying to get to. Be clear about this in your Heart.
That's it - job done.
~ Mooji
Chester
20th March 2014, 23:37
This is strange... and so tell me if I may be off base.
I believe I have become consciously enlightened. (Note the adjective consciously).
It appears (now) that I have always been enlightened.
It appears everyone else is enlightened and thus likely has always been enlightened.
That I have become consciously aware of this has generated a profound change (according to those who know me) in my general disposition and specifically with regards to what they perceive as my own self confidence.
My opinion is that by becoming consciously aware of Self (as I prefer to call it)... no, that description does not do justice to this. It is more like this Self is now driving all the illusory aspects of "me" and that my ego knows this and is actually enjoying the ride for a change.
At times I notice someone appears upset with my form of expression and that they even suggest my ego has gone berserk. I ask them, "If this is the case, to what would this be a problem?"
I have yet to be provided the answer I know to be correct.
Their ego.
haha
Wind
21st March 2014, 07:00
Through the power of your Satsang, the unreal is collapsing. All misconceptions, all false assumptions about yourself are fading away in the light of true understanding and grace.
In the instant of Self-recognition, the old identity cannot be further sustained. You realise it actually didn't exist at all. Consequently, all its power dissolves.
The false identity, what you have for so long believed yourself to be will, for some time, try to reinstate its old position as the self but the power of your recognition is enough to fend off any distractions.
In the absence of ego, the light of the Self shines unimpeded.
~ Mooji
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greybeard
21st March 2014, 07:13
Thrive - Crop Circles are Clues to New Energy Technology!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAV4iWhFiSE
greybeard
21st March 2014, 07:17
Freedom from the delusional ego
By Laron
By Paul Lenda via The Waking Times, 15 March 2014
“Man is born free, and everywhere he is in chains. One man thinks himself the master of others, but remains more of a slave than they are.” -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Full article here.
http://www.transients.info/2014/03/freedom-from-delusional-ego.html#more
Wind
21st March 2014, 08:23
Somewhat long, but interesting article about chakras and the kundalini energy.
Kundalini Rising: A Comprehensive Guide To The 7 Chakras (http://themindunleashed.org/2014/03/kundalini-rising-comprehensive-guide-7-chakras.html)
Wind
22nd March 2014, 15:55
The Truth is not going to be anything that you can perceive in front of yourself and at some distance away.
It is always the subject, never an object.
Take subject and Source to be one.
Therefore, don’t keep looking at what is seen but instead, bring your attention to That from where the seeing emerges. Note that the seeing position is not trapped inside the bubble of the objects perceived.
To whom is all this occurring?
Is it to a person or some tangible entity which can be recognised?
Can that in whose presence even the functioning of perception is being perceived, can it Itself be recognised phenomenally?
And if so, by whom or what?
Do you follow?
If you have been following my pointing diligently, you will be able to answer directly from the Self.
Who or what are you?
Look, feel and confirm.
Your sincere introspection will have caused mind to burn up all its concepts. It will have nothing more to offer.
What is left now?
"Myself."
Don't use anyone else's words or findings now.
Rely on your own discovery.
Don't identify with anything new.
Don't pick up any more concepts.
"There's just This."
This what?
"It is formless and indefinable."
Yes. This is the Self, it is not other than you.
Like this, you have come to the end of words.
Well Done!
Now just keep quiet.
~ Mooji
March 2014
Grizz Griswold
22nd March 2014, 18:15
Dear Greybeard, According to A course in Miracles. co-creator only becomes a correct term when we realize that we are totally dependent on God, source, all that is. In that way we become extensions of God with the ability to create only in a like manner, only like Him, only for good and eternally. This is where the phrase "of myself I can do nothing" has it's true meaning. In the egoic sense co-creator is not a correct term, through the ego we use projection which is dualistic and temporal, in ego style it always has fear for it's foundation which ultimately is unreal. Best of everything.......Grizz
greybeard
22nd March 2014, 19:30
Welcome to the thread Grizz.
Yes Grizz you are correct.
A concise yet full post thanks
I went to an ACIM study group for several years--a good experience.
Rameshs Balsekar said the problem is that people thing they are the doer.
He also said "Events happen deeds are done but there is no doer there off."
Source, which ultimately we are and never actually left, creates through us.
Of myself I do nothing leads to misunderstanding, as the does the advice "just be"
It doe not mean inactivity--that is impossible-- just get out of the way (ego thinking its the author of everything) and see what happens.
AA has a good expression "Let go let God" kind of sums it up nicely.
Best wishes
Chris
greybeard
22nd March 2014, 19:41
"Myself."
Don't use anyone else's words or findings now.
"Rely on your own discovery.
Don't identify with anything new.
Don't pick up any more concepts.
"There's just This."
This what?
"It is formless and indefinable."
Yes. This is the Self, it is not other than you.
Like this, you have come to the end of words.
Well Done!
Now just keep quiet.
~ Mooji"
Thanks Wind I have to remind myself of this.
With love Chris
March 2014
Grizz Griswold
22nd March 2014, 19:57
Hi Chris, yea the ego likes to run the show and sees itself as creator. Even when you think you have it tamed down it runs around the house and sneeks in the back door. Let go and let God is the only way. It's hard to let go until you begin to listen to your heart. It's place of communion and peace and quiet. Best of everything friend.....Grizz
Chester
23rd March 2014, 00:05
Thrive - Crop Circles are Clues to New Energy Technology!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAV4iWhFiSE
So why is this this way? It is not about what one comes upon when "following the money."
It is about addictions.
(I was referring to the very last part of this clip which was a question - thanks, Chris)
Chester
23rd March 2014, 01:47
Hi Chris, yea the ego likes to run the show and sees itself as creator. Even when you think you have it tamed down it runs around the house and sneeks in the back door. Let go and let God is the only way. It's hard to let go until you begin to listen to your heart. It's place of communion and peace and quiet. Best of everything friend.....Grizz
Funny but now that I experience letting God, the going is incredible, amazing, wondrous.
Wind
23rd March 2014, 07:44
The mind is apparently making someone's life hell and you call this someone you.
And this ‘you’ who is suffering from the mind is now trying to go beyond the mind.
It says ‘ Help me Mooji, to make this leap.’
But to make this leap is just another thought arising in That which is already beyond the mind.
Become aware of that Power now which is unaffected by the mind-play.
Don't miss my pointing.
Go directly to this Awareness space for right there is where all the mind's cunning plays are exposed as mere imagination.
Feel the power of sacred presence.
Just be there.
It does not suffer, nor can it be attacked by thoughts.
It is immaculate - untouched.
Yourself and It are one.
Confirm this.
It is the Sage' s abode.
~ Mooji
greybeard
23rd March 2014, 20:48
Delight thank you for reminding me of this.
Chris
Anitia Moorjani on her Spiritual Realizations
Alan Steinfeld of http://www.NewRealities.com radio broadcast talks with Anita Moorjani opens up to Alan about topics she rarely discusses including education, religion and the other aspects of her NDE and others aspexts of her best selling book,
Dying to Be Me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYiFHxa_wK0
PS http://anitamoorjani.com/
Delight
23rd March 2014, 21:56
Delight thank you for reminding me of this.
Chris
Hi Chris,
This is a great interview and timely and so much THANKS to your thread and all who grace it with so much ..... Love, Maggie
AngelArmy
25th March 2014, 14:44
The ego in spiritual terms could be defined as "Edge God Out"
I heard a similar saying but it was "ease God out"
I LUUUUVVVV your Avatar pic! Unfortunately, I keep inviting the Aliens TO tea... (ok, coffee in being completely honest).
Edge, ease, eradicate, eject, elect to push... and on and on and on.
Its FUN to be stark, raving enlightened, no?
Absolutely indeed and totally!! Aliens on coffee lol I can just imagine that :)
I think your avatar piccy is awesome too - wish I had seen one of them o m g
I like Carl Jung too :couch2:
Wind
25th March 2014, 14:51
Without the intrusiveness of personal mind, life is observed to be unfolding in a natural and harmonious way. Do not waste time merely wishing for things to get better. The whole world is doing this and so no one is really happy. We miss the true life. In fact, happiness arises when you stop chasing for something other than your own pure nature. And this happiness remains with you.
The universal tendency in human beings is to seek lasting happiness in the field of names and forms, a transient field. This is really a form of avoidance; a distraction from what is timelessly present and ever perfect within us—our divine nature and Self.
Ignorance of the Truth is the main cause of misery.
Avoid expectations and especially be aware of the tendency to wait for 'next' as a promise to happiness—the next good feeling, the next adventure, or invitation from the mind—in short, the next experience that, in fact does quite the contrary; it pulls your attention away from pure presence, the seat of joy.
No one has ever experienced 'the future'. Reflect.
It is all imagination.
How to transform these tendencies?
Simply, begin by paying attention to the natural thought-free state, the pure sense of existence, the feeling, ‘I Am’ that is naturally present in you. Shift the attention away from the mind-traffic and let it rest in impersonal Awareness. Keep doing this each time the attention goes out towards sense objects or obsessive self-interest.
Self-attention is the beginning of real Self-discovery.
It returns the attention time and again to its source—the One Self. Get used to staying in your natural and neutral state of being, it is a state of emptiness.
Do not be afraid of this, in fact get increasingly used to being empty. This emptiness and joy are synonymous. They are one. This is really what is meant by the saying, ‘to enjoy one’s self. It is a state of unfading contentment, wisdom, love and happiness.
~ Mooji
March 2014
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greybeard
26th March 2014, 07:24
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Rich
27th March 2014, 01:09
Great to see all the progress guys. Seems like almost anywhere I look people becoming more aware, more awake in a speedy fashion.
So the other day I was timing my meditation with a stop watch and when I was about to finish I looked at it, it showed 1h:29min so I thought ill stop it at 1:30 flat.
I looked at it and then pressed the stop button it stopped at exactly 1hour 30minutes 00 seconds......
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and 00 milliseconds:shocked: so it read 1:30 00 00
Grizz Griswold
27th March 2014, 23:55
Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
For me its a question of being careful what I digest mentally.
Without being obsessive I have a daily diet of enlightened spiritual works.
Meditation is on going, in an easy not forced way while walking or just sitting.
Re charging the battery or another way of looking at is --- When a coal falls out of the fire it soon looses its warmth and glow, it needs the company of enlightened embers to maintain its energy.
There is only love or fear--- the fear of God is a mistranslation--it means not to fear God but to respect that energy we call God or Source or The Ultimate.
That which you are in Truth.
Thanks for being you Grizz, you make a difference.
Chris
This is the second time I responded to this same post, To me it is a good rule of thumb to live by. So many of us lose ground to the ego who is always looking for drama, what is dramas real attraction but to be what we are not. This statement from the Bible; Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honorable, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. Whether one is Christian or not this statement has energy and truth.
There is a responsibility here, which will we be vigilant for? the ego's sick appeal for drama and only a speck of happiness that is as fleeting as a vapor in which no real peace lies.
Or can we be vigilant for our true self? the good, joyful, the infinite.
There is one question which we should ask ourselves when we are tempted by dramas shine......Does it bring me peace of mind? If not we always have the ability to choose again.
Your statement above is a good reminder, we choose what we want and as we choose it is given. When not at peace choose again.
Thank you again Chris......Grizz
greybeard
29th March 2014, 10:30
David Sereda on The Sun, Earthquakes and the Soul.
First, Linda Moulton Howe reports on the collapse of the RAF Bentwaters coverup, with 2 fantastic interviews. Then, David Sereda is not only a scientist but also a meditator, and he has been watching the sun both from a scientific and a spiritual viewpoint for many years. He has made some eye-opening discoveries about how the sun and the earth interact, and what, exactly, happens on the sun prior to major earthquakes.
The sun has a profound effect on the earth that goes far beyond heat and light. Its relationship to our geology and our weather is powerful and little understood, and David has made some groundbreaking discoveries about this. Listen as he describes exactly what was happening on the sun just prior to a number of powerful earthquakes, tsunamis and hurricanes.
And what about the huge sinkholes in Guatemala, China and other places in the world? What are they? How do they relate to what is happening on the sun, and where does the human mind fit in?
And what, exactly does 2012 mean? David explains how earth is now rising above the galactic plane, and entering an area where there is far less cosmic dust and the radiation reaching the sun and the earth from the galactic center is increasing fast.
Incredibly, David's description of what happens corresponds with the ideas behind Whitley upcoming novel the Omega Point, to be released on June 22.
And do not miss his deeply moving description of the vision of Christ he had many years ago, which is one of the most powerful such visions ever described, because it happened to a scientist who understood the way the vision was actually generated in his brain, and therefore why it was a truly transcendent experience.
This interview the show at its most exciting and original. You just will not find explosive new ideas like these explored anywhere else!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxigVFg-wWY
Rocky_Shorz
30th March 2014, 01:45
I do like the new name always felt bad walking into a place discussing ego because I'm not willing to give mine up... ;)
greybeard
30th March 2014, 06:45
Crossroads: Labor Pains of a New Worldview | FULL MOVIE
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greybeard
30th March 2014, 06:50
Science and spirituality
Dr. Eben Alexander, M.D., author of Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon's Journey Into the Afterlife, talks with Waking Times guest host, Debbie West, about the afterlife, human consciousness, the future of science and more.
Also joining the conversation is Karen Newell of Sacred Acoustics, who introduces her work with Dr. Alexander in using sound, binaural and monaural beats to induce altered states of consciousness.
www.WakingTimes.com
www.EbenAlexander.com
www.SacredAcoustics.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JqaWjf0nnk
I visit this web site most days and quite often videos I post here are found on this site
Disclaimer I do not always 100% agree with all of the content of the videos I post. I find them interesting is all.
Thanks to Transient info
Chris
http://www.transients.info/
Wind
30th March 2014, 11:34
After the intense and beautiful Satsang season in Rishikesh, India, Mooji will be taking a long rest. There will be no activities at Monte Sahaja - no Sunday Satsangs and no broadcasts - for the time being.
Mooji says, "Keep quiet. Contemplate what you have heard inside your heart during these Satsangs in Rishikesh.
Find, confirm and affirm my pointings inside your heart and in so doing, make them your own experience."
Mooji invites you to "Recognise the unmoving and formless ground of being and merge with it as your own reality. Cease giving attention to both the fleeting and stale impressions of the psychologically conditioned mind. Swallow, digest and assimilate the living food of truth that has been offered in such abundance.
The light of pure Awareness shines in you as the 'I Am Presence' itself. Be one with it until it also becomes a phenomenon observed inside the greater Awareness, the Unborn and Absolute Self. I am with you all the way."
Om Shanti
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Delight
30th March 2014, 14:39
This has some funny moments.
On SNL, Louis CK "wonders if God is known as “Our Father,” then where the hell is “Our Mother”?
“Where is our mom? Where’s our mom?” he wondered. “What did he do to our mom? Someone’s gotta check the trunk of God’s car for poison and rope.”
Or, he theorized, the Holy Mom is alive but they divorced. “Maybe God’s a single dad. Maybe life is a weekend with dad, and when we die we’re going to Mom’s house.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/louis-ck-wonders-whether-god-murdered-his-wife-on-snl-monologue/
Wind
30th March 2014, 15:41
“Do You Know Who I Am?” – The Seductive Voice Of The Self-Important Ego (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/03/29/do-you-know-who-i-am-the-seductive-voice-of-the-self-important-ego/)
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Eckhart Tolle often quotes Jesus:
“I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Matthew 19:23-26 (Parallel versions appear in Mark 10:24-27, and Luke 18:24-27.)
We have all had our struggles with money and perhaps more importantly, the desire for wealth. For me, one of the great treatises on this topic is Jacob Needleman’s Money and the Meaning of Life. Needleman’s perspective is that money is the “key” to mastery of the external world –it literally represents the value of survival as it can be exchanged for food, clothing, water and all of the essentials but it cannot replace them –you cannot eat money.
Therefore its value is established anthropomorphically by the human mind and agreement among man and women as to its value. If you take a dollar to the Amazon the natives will not give you anything for it; gold would be another story because its “value” is more genetically programmed and perhaps even intrinsic —but all of these aspects relate to what is material and external.
Going back to the apocryphal story above, I have noticed in self-observation how much stronger my “sense of self” can become with more money or around issues of money.
For example, in an upscale restaurant where I am paying for a good meal, I will expect better service and a certain amount of deference –my own importance becomes somehow solidified in my mind. Referring to Eckhart’s story –of the person who is served cold soup and complains vociferously “how dare you serve me cold soup” –this is far more likely to occur in a fine restaurant than if one is a guest or is given a free bowl of soup in a soup kitchen.
Similarly in matters of finance, I have noticed that both the matters themselves and my requirement that my needs be treated as matters of grave importance even though a bank, for example, will have many customers aside from me.
And the world responds. The more money one has, the more one can demand better service, better medical care, better food, and so on. My father used to say “whatever can be fixed with money is of no real significance.”
But this points in two directions.
First, for most people it is a clear indication that having sufficient money to meet the exigencies of life is important. For example, if you break down on the road you want enough to fix your car –if you need to stay overnight you may need a hotel. Having insufficient means in such circumstances makes life more difficult. The other thing my father always alluded to however, was that the really important things cannot be “fixed” with money. Your relationships with loved ones and oneself –these take one inward to a far deeper level beyond the external material dimension into what Eckhart calls “presence.” And such a movement invariably requires an openness and space between ones’ “self” and the world and a diminution of the egoic voice of self importance –the same voice that money makes stronger if it is the main motivation in life. This is obviously the point of the parable.
Needleman puts this well in his work:
“What is most necessary for man and what is given to him in abundance are experiences, especially experiences of the forces within him. This is his most essential food, his most essential wealth. If man consciously receives all of this abundance, the universe will pour into him what is called life in Judaism, spirit in Christianity, light in Islam, power in Taoism.”
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To me, the key word here is “consciously” — to “consciously receive” does not mean to hungrily seek and acquire (or to covet material wealth) — but rather to accept what IS with gratitude and awe. In Needleman’s terms this is the true meaning of conscience, to maintain attention in both the outer and inner worlds —in deference to the struggle between them.
What has helped me immensely in this area is the realization that sufficient means to live well is a worthy goal –part of human experience is to be able to deal effectively with the material world –that is indeed our “school” here on earth. And this is also a worthy goal in science –understanding the material to the greatest extent to help and safeguard others.
But when the mind takes over –and there is never enough and no sense of reverence and awe for all that IS –that is when the “kingdom of heaven” or peace on earth can no longer be attained; when acquisition and mastery are ends in themselves, then the ego has subverted the reality that Eckhart has brought out so eloquently when he says:
The saying was a response to a young rich man who had asked Jesus what he needed to do in order to inherit eternal life. Jesus replied that he should keep the commandments, to which the man stated he had done. Jesus responded, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” The young man became sad and was unwilling to do this. Jesus then spoke this response, leaving his disciples astonished.
The “eye of the needle” has been claimed to be a gate in Jerusalem, which opened after the main gate was closed at night. A camel could only pass through this smaller gate if it was stooped and had its baggage removed. This story has been put forth since at least the 15th century, and possibly as far back as the 9th century. However, there is no evidence for the existence of such a gate
This quotation has always fascinated me and the above snippet from Wikipedia also illustrates the tendency to take such maxims literally –wondering if such a gate actually existed. Eckhart makes clear that the “kingdom of heaven” in this story is the peace to be found “beyond all understanding” when one’s ego is seen as a separate, fleeting and illusory entity –the eternal life sought by the young rich boy is always present in the “no thing” that life represents.
This concept has been immensely helpful to me as I’ve attempted to “make my way in the world” and have fallen victim to various levels of conditioning –not the least of which is a fear of how harsh life can be without personal resources. Such a fear can lead to debilitating anxiety, and below I want to dig further into how it can be consciously addressed.
“Life will give you whatever experience is most helpful for the evolution of your consciousness. How do you know this is the experience you need? Because this is the experience you are having at the moment.” ― Eckhart Tolle, A New Earth: Awakening to Your Life’s Purpose
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This is also Needleman’s point when he writes that “one needs money to live and survive in the outer world, to fulfill one’s obligations to the community and to nature, but that above and beyond this, the role of money is to serve as the instrument for getting understanding.”
Notice again that within this context, there is nothing wrong with acquiring and using money consciously –in the outer world it can be wondrously helpful and provide even inner riches. However it is always the inner understanding that provides real wealth in the most significant dimension –the often overlooked inner world of consciousness.
In our time the entire notion of wealth is distorted and completely separated from the inner dimension. We can see this with money — which began as a means of exchange of material goods of real value — grain, animals, clothing, and even, unfortunately, people and women — and represented the product of actual labor — now it is merely blips or pixels on the screen. It is created and exchanged electronically and can be created by mere thought.
Money and wealth has become an illusion with no actual connection to the outer or inner world.
And like the sirens to draw sailors to the rocks, the pursuit of money or wealth for its own sake can doom the inner journey by strengthening the part of man that seeks to master the outer world at the expense of the inner –his chattering mind that wants MORE –the Ego. So that the next time your distorted view of “wealth” leads you to puff yourself up and ask someone, “do you know who I am?” You stop and deeply ask yourself the same question.
greybeard
30th March 2014, 16:12
Finding the gift in the shift.
Gregg Braden and other speakers
24th--28th April Sedona
http://stellarproductionslive.com/
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Wind
1st April 2014, 06:37
“What is a teacher? I'll tell you: it isn't someone who teaches something, but someone who inspires the student to give of his/her best in order to discover what he/she already knows.” -Paulo Coelho
Father Lord,
Thank you for the experience of life, for the joy of being,
for the field of harmony, grace and this deep contentment inside my Heart.
And beyond all this, thank you for the knowledge and unbroken experience
of unity with you as the immutable One.
~ Mooji
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Wind
2nd April 2014, 11:23
Imagining yourself to be the body,
no wonder you have all these ailments.
Imagining yourself to be the mind,
no wonder you have all these worries.
Knowing yourself to be consciousness,
No wonder there is all this space and peace.
Realising you are the unborn awareness,
no wonder you are supremely happy.
~ Mooji
April 2014
www.mooji.org
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Wind
3rd April 2014, 14:03
http://vimeo.com/90673112
Rich
3rd April 2014, 15:57
Some great explanations by Bashar.
About OBE, reincarnation, body, spirit...
A different point of view is a different point of you.
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greybeard
3rd April 2014, 17:25
Im all for different points of view---in navigation its called triangulation --- helps you get an accurate position --smiling.
Mystic Girl in the city.
I'm sitting here at my desk with a dandelion root tea in my hand, because it helps me stay sharp, because I didn't get enough sleep last night. I was awake much of the night rooting out old bits of pain and emotion. I was doing healing work in the middle of the night because, when I cleared my schedule last night to sit down and do the said healing work, my pal resistance showed up, and I got distracted. The distraction felt foggy, a 'not sure what I want to do, maybe some internet would be good' kinda fog. I am usually awesome at seeing through the voice of distraction. I'm a pro, distraction rarely gets the best of me! But last night, my dear friend resistance was playing an A-game, trying to keep me away from an old jaggedy bit of trauma rattling around in the system for way too long, one recently activated by my life situation.
Life situation: My neighbors have been doing some construction, and because of the incompetence of the contractors, I have lost my power, my water, and my heat (it's winter while I write this), and yup, I find myself getting swept up in wanting to kill the contractors. So, while it's a real bummer of a situation, wanting to actually kill them....well, that has charged up old pain written all over it.
In my past, my childhood, there was an awful lot of hell going around. And due to the incompetence of the adults, my basic needs were completely unmet, ignored, or stomped on, and often my safety was jeopardized. When the renovation issues started up, what I felt was the rage and fury of a child in torment. And that rage means it's time to make time for some healing. But yesterday, instead, I researched a million trivial funny things online. Sound familiar?
And it cost me... it cost me a good night's sleep. In the middle of the night, I awoke to the full fury. And this time, distraction was not going to work. 2am. Awesome.
So, resistance, we all know it. Sure, it's a bitch. It's hard to deal with, and it's usually much more bothersome than the actual pain. So, I'm going to write a few articles in the coming weeks outlining the games that resistance plays. I'm going to support us in getting wise to the programs of resistance. For now, just to lay some ground work, remember that our friend resistance comes from fear. As I mentioned in the last article, fear comes from our primal survival system. And our friend resistance is a movement of fear. Even though it feels just like anger, it's actually fear.
What happens is that, when we are small,we get traumatized. It happens. Our systems are still trying to figure out this whole 'how-to-live-in-peace-and-freedom' thing. Little people feel the traumas in their bodies. They are too little to emotionally process pain, so the body is the front line of defense. The body's primal survival system steps up to the plate to take care of that gyrating trauma. It grabs the vibrating ache and buries it in the body, and then encodes it to stay there. That encoding is resistance.
Resistance is like a staple that will keep the raw pain pinned in the body. And that staple has 4 layers, or about 4 different codes. I will go into detail about each code in the coming articles, but for now: let's call the first layer 'aggressive mind'. It's perfectly built to distract you away from the pain in the body. Then we have 'invisible cloak', just like in Harry Potter, causing pain to disappear the instant we go to find it. Then we have a highly irritated layer or 'I can't be in my own skin' kind of jitteriness. It can sometimes feel like 'I am going to die, have a heart attack, or I maybe I have a brain tumor.' And then my friend from last night, the foggy brain/confusion layer. It sounds like, "um, what was I doing?"
The cool thing is that resistance only has these few plays, and they are really consistent, and really noticeable if we know how to spot them. And once we are on to them, we can get out of their sticky grasps. Because no matter what resistance throws at us, we only have one simple and effortless thing to do: find the physical sensation and love the **** out of it.
Now, that old jittery bit rattling around last night was really old, and has deked me out for a number of years. I knew it was there, yet I let a play of resistance grab me, that foggy confusion. So here I am, underslept, perhaps going on way too long with you guys, tea in hand, gotten by the old coding of primal survival. And did I mention I'm shivering cuz those dudes haven't figured out how to turn the power back on? Yah, awesome.
http://www.mysticgirlinthecity.com/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UEbOlDiNrg
greybeard
3rd April 2014, 18:18
Artificial Paradise. (JJ Cale)
Many loves in a lifetime, they seem to go astray
Many people come and go, they never seem to stay
Sometimes I kid myself, then I realise
I'm just living in an artificial paradise
A hundred times, my hopes and dreams are blown into the air
A thousand times, it always seems no one is really there
Then I know I'm fooling myself, I'm not so wise
I'm just living in an artificial paradise
Plastic state of mind, superficial clothes
Living in a vacuum, close to zero
Sometimes I kid myself, then I realise
I'm just living in an artificial paradise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFWZu0NKA_w
Grizz Griswold
4th April 2014, 04:28
Talk about an artificial paradise.
What is it they say in quantum physics?
They can't actually figure out where one of us ends and the other one starts.
That takes one heck of a magician.
Might as well have fun and enjoy the show.
Think I'll have some Milk Duds and a bag of popcorn.
Best to ya Chris......Grizz
Delight
4th April 2014, 16:22
Im all for different points of view---in navigation its called triangulation --- helps you get an accurate position --smiling.
Mystic Girl in the city.
I'm sitting here at my desk with a dandelion root tea in my hand, because it helps me stay sharp, because I didn't get enough sleep last night. I was awake much of the night rooting out old bits of pain and emotion. I was doing healing work in the middle of the night because, when I cleared my schedule last night to sit down and do the said healing work, my pal resistance showed up, and I got distracted. The distraction felt foggy, a 'not sure what I want to do, maybe some internet would be good' kinda fog. I am usually awesome at seeing through the voice of distraction. I'm a pro, distraction rarely gets the best of me! But last night, my dear friend resistance was playing an A-game, trying to keep me away from an old jaggedy bit of trauma rattling around in the system for way too long, one recently activated by my life situation.
Life situation: My neighbors have been doing some construction, and because of the incompetence of the contractors, I have lost my power, my water, and my heat (it's winter while I write this), and yup, I find myself getting swept up in wanting to kill the contractors. So, while it's a real bummer of a situation, wanting to actually kill them....well, that has charged up old pain written all over it.
In my past, my childhood, there was an awful lot of hell going around. And due to the incompetence of the adults, my basic needs were completely unmet, ignored, or stomped on, and often my safety was jeopardized. When the renovation issues started up, what I felt was the rage and fury of a child in torment. And that rage means it's time to make time for some healing. But yesterday, instead, I researched a million trivial funny things online. Sound familiar?
And it cost me... it cost me a good night's sleep. In the middle of the night, I awoke to the full fury. And this time, distraction was not going to work. 2am. Awesome.
So, resistance, we all know it. Sure, it's a bitch. It's hard to deal with, and it's usually much more bothersome than the actual pain. So, I'm going to write a few articles in the coming weeks outlining the games that resistance plays. I'm going to support us in getting wise to the programs of resistance. For now, just to lay some ground work, remember that our friend resistance comes from fear. As I mentioned in the last article, fear comes from our primal survival system. And our friend resistance is a movement of fear. Even though it feels just like anger, it's actually fear.
What happens is that, when we are small,we get traumatized. It happens. Our systems are still trying to figure out this whole 'how-to-live-in-peace-and-freedom' thing. Little people feel the traumas in their bodies. They are too little to emotionally process pain, so the body is the front line of defense. The body's primal survival system steps up to the plate to take care of that gyrating trauma. It grabs the vibrating ache and buries it in the body, and then encodes it to stay there. That encoding is resistance.
Resistance is like a staple that will keep the raw pain pinned in the body. And that staple has 4 layers, or about 4 different codes. I will go into detail about each code in the coming articles, but for now: let's call the first layer 'aggressive mind'. It's perfectly built to distract you away from the pain in the body. Then we have 'invisible cloak', just like in Harry Potter, causing pain to disappear the instant we go to find it. Then we have a highly irritated layer or 'I can't be in my own skin' kind of jitteriness. It can sometimes feel like 'I am going to die, have a heart attack, or I maybe I have a brain tumor.' And then my friend from last night, the foggy brain/confusion layer. It sounds like, "um, what was I doing?"
The cool thing is that resistance only has these few plays, and they are really consistent, and really noticeable if we know how to spot them. And once we are on to them, we can get out of their sticky grasps. Because no matter what resistance throws at us, we only have one simple and effortless thing to do: find the physical sensation and love the **** out of it.
Now, that old jittery bit rattling around last night was really old, and has deked me out for a number of years. I knew it was there, yet I let a play of resistance grab me, that foggy confusion. So here I am, underslept, perhaps going on way too long with you guys, tea in hand, gotten by the old coding of primal survival. And did I mention I'm shivering cuz those dudes haven't figured out how to turn the power back on? Yah, awesome.
http://www.mysticgirlinthecity.com/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UEbOlDiNrg
I only have one gripe about teachers like this...they charge money. Yes it is a gripe and I can gripe form my ego where I find she is also speaking. Ego of mine reacts to charging money for teachings of non ego. Hehe very loopy I know.
But I still have this sense.....
Charging for teaching shows profoundly that she is NOT what she thinks she is and has NOT what she believes she has. Self improvement coaches are not spiritual masters and IMO as interesting as her blog is and even though she is able to write well about her internal process, she is just another self improvement coach.
IMO masters don not need to charge as they have everything and it just IS in their reality. maybe it comes as being a carpenter (or shoemaker or chef etc.) or maybe it comes form God direct but they do not NEED money and would not charge money.
greybeard
8th April 2014, 19:59
Lilou Mace· interview
Deja Vu, Immortality & Guardian angel - Anthony Peake
Anthony Peake (born 1954) grew up on the Wirral, near Liverpool, England. He was educated at Wirral Grammar School, Warwick University and the London School of Economics. He is a member of the Institute of Noetic Sciences, The Scientific & Medical Network and the Society for Psychic Research.
In his previous two books Anthony has presented a potentially paradigm-changing hypothesis that suggests that human consciousness survives the physical death of the body by falling out of time. He calls this process Cheating The Ferryman. In his second book, The Daemon- A Guide To Your Extraordinary Secret Self, he focuses in on one major element of this hypothesis - that all human beings consist of two centres of consciousness. Borrowing from Gnostic terminology He call these "The Daemon" and "The Eidolon".
In turn "Cheating The Ferryman" seems to offer a radically new, and scientifically based, explanation for such phenomena as "Near-Death Experience", "Deja Vu", "Precognition", "Angelic Encounters", "Doppelgangers" and many other mysteries of consciousness.
He has been interviewed by many radio stations and magazines across the world and has appeared on British television discussing the explanatory power of this idea. He is also developing a reputation as an engaging and dynamic public speaker having now presented over 100 lectures across the UK, Europe and the USA. In July of 2009 he was a speaker at a prestigious "Platform Event" at the National Theatre in London, and two weeks later he presented a lecture to over 300 people in Manhattan, New York.
Since 2006 Anthony has continued to collect evidence for "Cheating The Ferryman" and has been contacted by many hundreds of individuals from round the world who have presented him with stunning personal accounts that support his theory. In turn Anthony has made contact with a handful of the world's leading experts working in the areas of science central to his hypothesis.
As far as Anthony is concerned "Cheating The Ferryman" is a work-in-progress. For this purpose he has created a very active FORUM (www.anthonypeake.com/forum). This FORUM is open to all and Anthony actively seeks out contributions from his readers and other individuals and organisations interested in assisting in developing this hypothesis.
In November 2009 Anthony began a regular slot on BBC Radio Merseyside.
After living in many parts of the United Kingdom Anthony has returned to his roots on The Wirral where he continues to explore the implications of "Cheating The Ferryman" and in his spare time worries about the decline of his beloved football team, Tranmere Rovers. Source http://www.amazon.com/Anthony-Peake/e...
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Wind
10th April 2014, 02:07
You are the peace in silence.
You are the silence in peace.
You are the light of consciousness that causes all things to be seen.
You are the perceiving love devoid of objective identity.
You are the wisdom and love which shines from the source of existence.
You are Unborn Awareness Self.
~ Mooji
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joeecho
10th April 2014, 03:20
"There are two kinds of ego."
The ego loves to be split it two or more parts, that way it has more room to play.
Either way the question ends up being.... Do you want to be on the wrong side or the wrong side?
As it has been said before...
Ego is the worst confidence trickster than we could ever imagine.... Dr. Yoav Dattilo
greybeard
11th April 2014, 05:15
Wow !!!Two hundred thousands visits to this thread.
Thanks to all who contribute and visit
Chris
greybeard
11th April 2014, 18:18
Garbage in garbage out--that old expression came to me out of the blue.
If the mind is filled with fearful thoughts I think it is important to look at what you are reading--to look at the kind of input that you gravitate to.
To the belief systems, concepts that are forming from repeated input.
Everything has a vibration a frequency which in humans sets up an attractor field.
So what ever you are tuned into --what ever you digest, that comes back as more of the same.
That's why I spend time reading books by the Enlightened---watching Mooji on the videos posted here by Wind and of course other similar material.
All that has a profound effect.
In simplicity whatever sees one through the day in good "tune" enjoying whatever the moment brings in serenity.
Chris
Wind
15th April 2014, 04:00
A true friend is not merely someone you like, or who is like you; they could be quite unlike you in most respects.
However, though they love you, their first love is for Truth,
not for you or anything else.
Such a friend is rare indeed and rarely appreciated.
~ Mooji
Eram
15th April 2014, 12:40
Yesterday, I watched the movie: "The Name of the Rose" with Sean Connery and Christian Slater, from a book written by Umberto Eco.
One of the first things that Sean Connery says is: "To command nature, you first have to obey it" and I was really struck by the sentence.
Strangely, I have never heard or read this in all the spiritual information so clear and simple before.
In one simple sentence almost all there is to do to evolve spiritually is explained imo.
This goes for the nature of the physical, emotional and mental body.
Physical: We need to learn how to operate this vehicle from birth on, walking, talking etc.
We need to learn that we feed it in time, get rest when it is demanded, learn what is poisonous and what is healthy to the body system etc. When we do this, the body grows tall, strong and healthy and we can use this vehicle to gain knowledge and understanding... consciousness.
Emotional: When an emotion arises, or wants to arise, we have to pay attention to it and let it be, without letting the emotion dictate us what to do. When we fail to do this, by suppressing the emotion, things start to fester and the vibrational level is bound to the lower regions of the emotional realm. So when we give free passing to the emotions and restrict from acting upon them, we become emotional healthy and we are free to experience the higher emotional vibrations such as love, euphoria and such.
Mental: In the beginning of our incarnation, we keep many things for truth that later in life turn out to be fictional.
There is no Santa Clause, someone else disaster is not our fault simply because we could have done something different that would have given the event another spin without having a foresight to what was going to happen etc. Believing in thoughts that are not true might lead to depression for instance.
During our lifetime, the drive to discover truth or learn more about reality needs to be obeyed and stimulated or we will end up numb and without interest in what's going on in the world. Slowly, we learn how to operate the mind and the more we learn about truth, the more we begin to think according to reality, the more we gain access to the cause and effect of what's going on. We learn how to do right instead of wrong.
We learn how to dissolve the ego that was created with fantasy emotions and fictional thoughts.
All this goes for our interactions with our surroundings as well of course.
Isn't it great that one simple sentence can wrap this all together as a pointer toward enlightenment?
Wind
15th April 2014, 15:43
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Wind
16th April 2014, 13:42
Just see.
Nothing is actually affecting you when you just observe, when you don’t say, ‘This should not be.’
Pay attention to this wonderful power within you that simply observes without
judgment, intention and attachment.
Feel that space and peace.
Give it a chance.
~ Mooji
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greybeard
17th April 2014, 20:05
Confirm this Over and Over Until It's Over!
ust before leaving Rishikesh, Mooji encourages everyone to take advantage of his upcoming resting period by fully digesting and assimilating in the Heart what he has been pointing to.
"While Mooji's resting, you go inside with what you've heard. You don't have to go inside deep, deep, deep -- there's no deep, deep, deep! You just have to go inside and prove to yourself that all the things you experience, all that you see, it's time-bound, including the idea you have of who you are. But what watches all of this? Does that belong to time? Can time touch that One? And you'll see that even time is in front of that One. When you see this, you must confirm over, and over, and over, and over, and over until it is over!
So that in any circumstances in life, you are the Self. The scenes will change, but the seer is unchanging."
Music: Ganapati Om by Omkara and Shivaratri Cafe
www.shivaratricafe.bandcamp.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTH3ddiOww
greybeard
17th April 2014, 21:12
Mooji ◦ Die Before You Die ◦ From Samsara to Nirvana
This is a full satsang dialogue that is also posted on the youtube channel "SatsangWithMooji" in four parts under the title "From Samsara to Nirvana: Finish It Now".
I have heard some call this the psychological death of the ego.
A number of times, Mooji has spoken about those inquiring how to die to that which is not true, and often use the term "I want to die before I die".
Arunachala Satsang with Mooji
mooji.org (official website) ~ Music clips: Deva Premal and Miten "Gayatri Mantra"
Youtube channels: youtube.com/moojiji,
youtube.com/AwakeningBridge and other associated channels.
Also see: nevernothere.com and mooji.satsangs.net (a source website of mooji's video satsang)
This is Advaita Jivanmukti. Coming back soon. ;o)
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Enjoy!
Om Shanti
~ Blessings to You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGqQ17X4hwA
Wind
18th April 2014, 15:04
Remaining as Awareness, delusions fall away and mind returns to its natural abode, the Heart.
Do not fight any tendency.
Simply stay as the detached witness who is ever present and without name or form. It has no story.
Follow this advise.
It works.
~ Mooji
How can we resolve overpopulation?
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Wind
21st April 2014, 11:30
Recognising mankind’s will is often driven by selfishness,
the wise submit theirs to the Supreme.
Finding the ways and presence of God to be the harmony in their own Being,
they secure complete satisfaction within.
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~ Mooji
21st of April, 2014
www.mooji.org
greybeard
21st April 2014, 21:21
“With humility comes the willingness to stop trying to control or change other people or life situations or events ostensibly 'for their own good'. To be a committed spiritual seeker, it is necessary to relinquish the desire to be 'right' or of imaginary value to society. In fact, nobody's ego or belief systems are of any value to society at all. The world is neither good nor bad nor defective, nor is it in need of help or modification because its appearance is only a projection of one's own mind. No such world exists.”
― David R. Hawkins
Rich
21st April 2014, 21:59
Hmm contemplating what Hawking means.... this fits well to what he is saying
Accept Reality as a reflection of you, you're not a victim in any way shape or form, on any level whatsoever. Unless that's the game you want to play and if you do, it will be allowed, because you are always supported in everything you decide is true. ~Bashar
Reality is in your consciousness
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Guish
23rd April 2014, 17:11
“With humility comes the willingness to stop trying to control or change other people or life situations or events ostensibly 'for their own good'. To be a committed spiritual seeker, it is necessary to relinquish the desire to be 'right' or of imaginary value to society. In fact, nobody's ego or belief systems are of any value to society at all. The world is neither good nor bad nor defective, nor is it in need of help or modification because its appearance is only a projection of one's own mind. No such world exists.”
― David R. Hawkins
I think in Zen, we call it the ' no mind' state.
greybeard
23rd April 2014, 19:22
Ultimately nothing is actually happening.
Watched a video where the end few minutes showed a curtain blowing in the wind.
The commentator said "Is the curtain moving, or is it the mind?"
Ramana said "Neither creation nor dissolution occurred"
Idra's dream --the cosmic dance---all point to this.
Seems so very real but then so does the dream to the dreamer.
Chris
Rich
23rd April 2014, 21:29
Speaking of nothing happening:
....stop thinking of it all the time and it will disolve into a thin mist. ~Nisaragadatta about the world
...it's a mentation. ~Lester Levenson
Nothing ever happened, nothing ever will happen.~Papaji
...the insane idea that time can circumvent eternity*...~ACIM
*not 100% sure of wording
Wind
24th April 2014, 05:15
If there were no concepts, would there be an 'I' or 'other'? Who are you apart from the sense of a personal, conditioned self?
You can find out right now. Just don’t touch any belief or concept, including the sense 'I' or 'me'. What does it mean, 'don't touch’?
It means do not combine or identify yourself with any phenomenon, real or imagined. Therefore, discard the belief, 'I am my body, mind and personality'. Avoiding these, what remains? Observe.
Is there any disharmony felt? Where is the place for even enlightenment or ignorance, bondage or freedom, heaven or hell?
One transcends all states of mind and is freed from the grip of delusion even without denying the phenomenal world.
For some, this guidance, if followed, is going to detonate and blow all stupidness away.
~ Mooji
greybeard
24th April 2014, 06:36
The teaching meets you where you stand then takes you beyond mind.
The teacher and the taught (student) are the same.
One definition of Guru is "The remover of ignorance"
The knowledge is obscured by belief systems concepts etc.
In many ways it is quite simple but there is some depth to the understanding and acting on the simple.
Sometimes a lot of "Not this, Not this", has to be gone through to arrive at the the realisation -there is no path-- no destination---no distance-- no time.
"i" is. "One without a second."
With "me" still "work in progress."
Chris
Guish
24th April 2014, 15:13
I can recall an interview with Alan Watts where he argues that the human race is obsessed with conformity and perfection. Perfection in terms of design of objects, behavior of people and notion of beauty. This very idea leads to discrimination and separation from others. Look at nature. Nothing is straight or perfectly round. Isn't it beautiful? I think that we cling to beliefs so that we can have an existence or identity. Maybe, the path to awakening is losing yourself and be no one so that everyone can be reflected through you as you can relate to everyone. One of the teachings of Budha was detachment.
Wind
25th April 2014, 09:42
Nobody can figure out Life. No one can fathom the Self.
It is ineffable.
Somehow, one attains Liberation through harmony with the universal consciousness, which expresses through the paths of love, humility, devotion, wisdom, selfless service or surrender to the Supreme Being.
All this is the Grace of God.
~ Mooji
Guish
25th April 2014, 15:03
Right breathing leads to right balance.
Right balance leads to a calm mind.
Calm mind leads to clear vision.
Clear vision leads to correct actions.
Correct breathing leads to detachment.
Detachment leads to selfless actions.
Selfless actions lead to awakening.
Guish
GarethBKK
26th April 2014, 01:04
Awakening to reality is easy. Anyone can do it right now. In fact most of us do it daily but don't recognise it for what it is. It's always there if we allow it. The hard part, the barrier to break through, is becoming that reality - the letting go of the idea there ever was a me. It's not easy to 'die before you die'. As Evelyn Underhill wrote in the introduction to her translation of The Dark Night of The Soul: "The self in its first purgation has cleansed the mirror of perception; hence in its illumined life, has seen Reality... Now, it has got to be Reality: a very different thing."
We try too hard, and in our trying we forget to be. Thus, a barrier is erected. To make the breakthrough there is being still, there is a "profound declaration of intent", and there is the "grace to accept our circumstances and actively will whatever happens."
"That side of the barrier our willfulness erodes the Obvious: this side, the Obviousness erodes our willfulness."
Quotes from Douglas Harding's book On Having No Head available on Kindle. http://headless.org/
Of course, not everyone has the intent, but in coming to this wonderful thread day after day, I see many who do.
greybeard
26th April 2014, 09:56
Adyashanti via Sounds True, the main subject, his book, Resurrecting Jesus.
Assuming the link works, you will find on line an hour long discussion with Adyashanti discussing spirituality and the book.
This can be downloaded free.
Chris
http://enews.soundstrue.com/public/?q=preview_message&fn=Link&t=1&ssid=17613&id=25baek6w2e1x5tdndred7ohtulj5z&id2=fu4hfcl7650qy2flc2f07xglp3whc&subscriber_id=atbewkvhnpshkzaptbnigmdmswribnl&messageversion_id=balexitrnfkourqelhazvserbwcqbpj&delivery_id=aerjqrzfetonutpswajyoxioktzfbof&tid=3.RM0.AkqoyA.A31R.Mf-q..hNgd.b..s.V-4.a.U1sMGA.U1sMGA.9v6uwA
Wind
26th April 2014, 13:54
You know you exist.
This is so natural not even your parents had to teach you that.
You instinctively know you are alive and that you are perceiving somehow.
Not even deliberately, it is just happening.
It is an effortless functioning.
And there is Awareness of that functioning.
What more can you say?
The rest is entirely made up.
~ Mooji
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Wind
27th April 2014, 00:13
I think that this has not been posted here before, it's a good interview.
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John Hagelin, Ph.D., is a world-renowned quantum physicist, educator, author, and leading proponent of peace.
Dr. Hagelin has conducted pioneering research at CERN (the European Center for Particle Physics) and the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center. He is responsible for the development of a highly successful grand unified field theory based on the superstring—a theory that was featured in a cover story of Discover magazine.
In addition, Dr. Hagelin has spent much of the past quarter century leading a scientific investigation into the foundations of human consciousness. He is one of the world's pre-eminent researchers on the effects of meditation on brain development, and the use of collective meditation to defuse societal stress and to reduce crime and social violence.
In recognition of his outstanding achievements, Dr. Hagelin was named winner of the prestigious Kilby Award, which recognizes scientists who have made "major contributions
to society through their applied research in the fields of science and technology." The award recognized Dr. Hagelin as "a scientist in the tradition of Einstein, Jeans, Bohr and Eddington."
Dr. Hagelin was featured in the hit movies What the Bleep Do We Know?! and The Secret for his cutting-edge research in physics, higher states of consciousness; and the peace-promoting effects of large meditation groups.
Dr. Hagelin has appeared many times on ABC's Nightline, NBC's Meet the Press, CNN's Larry King Live! and Inside Politics, CNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, and others. He has also been regularly featured in the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and other major metropolitan newspapers.
Dr. Hagelin received his A.B. summa cum laude from Dartmouth College in 1975 and his Ph.D. from Harvard University in 1981. He is currently director of the Institute of Science, Technology and Public Policy, Professor of physics at Maharishi University of Management, President of the Global Union of Scientists for Peace, President of the David Lynch Foundation, and Director of the Maharishi Foundation USA, which overseas the teaching of Transcendental Meditation in the United States.
Chester
27th April 2014, 15:29
This has some funny moments.
On SNL, Louis CK "wonders if God is known as “Our Father,” then where the hell is “Our Mother”?
“Where is our mom? Where’s our mom?” he wondered. “What did he do to our mom? Someone’s gotta check the trunk of God’s car for poison and rope.”
Or, he theorized, the Holy Mom is alive but they divorced. “Maybe God’s a single dad. Maybe life is a weekend with dad, and when we die we’re going to Mom’s house.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/louis-ck-wonders-whether-god-murdered-his-wife-on-snl-monologue/
For me - speaking solely metaphorically - the male aspect is potential and the female aspect is the embracing of that potential which then allows the child to manifest... to find itself in the dream... all three of us create this illusion together. Thus also for me, the only way I can know my metaphorical spiritual parents is through the Mother and is why I respect the Goddess Tradition above all spiritual traditions.
Wind
27th April 2014, 17:03
Know and understand that you are not a 'person' with consciousness, but rather, the perceiver of such identity along with whatever else appears here.
Whatever arises is seen and intuitively discerned to be momentary or impermanent.
That which perceives cannot be that which is being perceived. Recognising all appearances to be impermanent by nature, one ceases imparting reality to them. Thus, one discovers and confirms one's true position as the formless and neutral witness of all phenomena.
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Even what will be felt as a small insight is felt powerfully within your Being and something opens up a clarity which is not just intellectual and mental but an 'in-seeing'. It completely detonates somewhere internal and the whole bundle of concepts are deconstructing in this. It can seem like a small thing, but the effect of it is truly beautiful.
It is almost as though your mind runs out of moves.
You can come to see that 'all my thoughts, what I think about who I am, all of this is not true'.
What is the best use of this moment? Just Be.
~ Mooji
Chester
27th April 2014, 17:44
The "person" is within my consciousness
Wind
28th April 2014, 06:43
There is a Silence that is totally impersonal.
It is not the fruit of anybody’s work.
Peace is there, but there is no peacekeeper.
This Peace is only known when the noise of the person is not present.
In the absence of the 'person' there are no distractions.
Only the ever-pure Awareness prevails.
The Ultimate is nobody’s achievement at all.
~ Mooji
Guish
28th April 2014, 14:54
You can see your reflection in the water when the water is calm.
You can see your real self when your mind is calm.
Delight
28th April 2014, 16:47
I am listening again to Neville Goddard and this was recorded around Easter.
His teaching is based in the esoteric Christian lineage but also from his experience.
This is a one of his lectures that covers a lot of ground including being in the dream of life and the meaning of the Lord's Prayer. Neville talks about his friend Joseph as an example of where god wakens...in life. Life never ends but what we see as death restores "who we are" where we left off until we wake up to being god in the dream and then have our resurrection. IMO it makes perfect sense that being alive is being a living word.
The title comes from an observation made by Ferrar Fenton (1832-1920), that the nature of the Lord's Prayer (Matthew 6: 9-13 and Luke 11: 1-4) is that of a standing order, "a thing to be done absolutely, and continuously."
The Lord's Prayer as Fenton saw it:
"For your Father knows your necessities before you ask Him. Consequently, you must pray in this way: Our Father in the Heavens; your name must be being hallowed; your kingdom must be being restored; your will must be being done, both in Heaven and upon the Earth. Give us to-day our to-morrow's bread; and forgive us our faults, as we forgive those offending us, for you would not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from its evil." (The Lord's Prayer, The Complete Bible in Modern English, emphasis Goddard’s).
My own observation is that the Lord's Prayer is not a prayer at all; it is an attitude to strike, parenthetical instructions for a form of meditation, guidance to the "frame of mind" that is to be had in that form of prayer. The Lord's Prayer is set of directions regarding how to pray, not words to recite. It is a manual for a mystical exercise, because these guys were mystics -- this is what they did. We are supposed to be mystics, too. Life is supposed to be an ecstasy.
We have to understand the point of view of the authors, which is that Jesus Christ is the spirit of God within us. He knows the mind of every man because he IS the mind of every man. Jesus Christ is that spirit of God who became man that man might become God. We actually are God (there isn’t anything that isn’t), but we presently need to reacquire consciousness of that fact.
Says Neville in A Standing Order: “If I use the word 'God', or the word 'Christ', the word 'Jesus', the word "Lord', and in any way it conveys the sense of an existent someone or something outside of yourself, you have the wrong concept of God or Christ! We are told, ‘Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you? Do you not realize that you are the temple of the living God, and the spirit of God dwells in you?’”
There is no distance or separation in these states. "In" means is. Or maybe I should say "as." The only distance between God and us is our lack of understanding that there is no distance. And he is working on that. http://imagicworldview.blogspot.com/2013/12/abbreviated-standing-order-by-neville.html
Neville Goddard A Standing Order
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pathaka
28th April 2014, 19:20
Search did not come up with this, so here's FWIW:
Fallacies about enlightenment (Jan Esmann / Loveliss.eu)
http://lovebliss.eu/fallacies-about-enlightenment.html
Upgrading your Mental operating System (on thought / ego / stopping thinking / transcending mind / using mind, by Gary Weber)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK8pcUt4gio
On what compassionate love and loving oneself is and where it can lead (Nishant Matthews)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3PmF34pT3s
Are these the only or final truths. Very unlikely. Are they more right than the following regurgitated simplicities:
- "I experienced oceanic love, I must be enlightened"
- "I witnessed my own thoughts without identification, I must be enlightened"
- "I had a full blown "white body of light" experience, hence I must be enlightened"
- "I felt being one with everything, this is oneness"
- "I must kill / eradicate / win / destroy / erase / obliterate my ego to become enlightened"
- "Ego is bad, useless, source of all problems and must be destroyed"
- "Anybody who is self-realized, is pure love, does not harm anyone, wears only white robes and talks in new age platitudes"
- "Your have to only feel/think/be love and everything else is being in fear and as such driven from ego."
- "People who are enlightened or full of love, never lose their temper, never use their brain to think or don't feel fear/anger/hatred/jealousy or any of the negative emotions" (see Buddhist typology for explanation on the latter)
... to me they are. More accurate, more discerning, less wrong.
Those are just simplifications on a much, much deeper and mysterious path.
I'd like to close with two quotes that have helped me, maybe they will help somebody else.
“I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. ... The moment you follow someone you cease to follow Truth.”
- Krishnamurti
"Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there."
- Rumi
What do I know? Very little and day by day I know less.
Find your own truth.
Wind
29th April 2014, 06:02
Some imagine that self-realisation is the highest state within the realm of perception, but this is not so.
The authentic ones have transcended the captivating illusions of duality by recognising that they are themselves unchanging Awareness, which is beyond all states.
Having overcome the myriad distractions and temptations of the world, they confirm with authority, personal identity to be mere illusion. Thus they rise above the play, consequence and concept of cause and effect.
Such beings are themselves the living embodiment of Truth.
~ Mooji, 29th of April, 2014
justntime2learn
29th April 2014, 06:36
March 17 2010 was a day I will never forget on top of all others. I've noticed a couple dates that keep coming up in many different ways. I've noticed other things that keep coming up in groups. I dont know how to ask for help yet because my ex wife was arrested on March 17, 2010. I had been abused for over 20 years not including my childhood.
Guish
29th April 2014, 17:48
Some imagine that self-realisation is the highest state within the realm of perception, but this is not so.
The authentic ones have transcended the captivating illusions of duality by recognising that they are themselves unchanging Awareness, which is beyond all states.
Having overcome the myriad distractions and temptations of the world, they confirm with authority, personal identity to be mere illusion. Thus they rise above the play, consequence and concept of cause and effect.
Such beings are themselves the living embodiment of Truth.
~ Mooji, 29th of April, 2014
Enlightenment can be said to be detachment simply. Detachment to such a point that we fuse into the surrounding and there is no self.
Wind
30th April 2014, 14:37
You have to go beyond this identification with the body and with the person, otherwise, it is going to kill you.
By this I mean, it will suffocate your spontaneity and clog up your pure intelligence.
Who, among us, is going to be the one to shake it off? And to what extent will you accomplish this?
It has got to be to such an extent that thereafter, it won’t matter where you go, only the scenes will change but you, the Seer, remain unchanging. You will stay untouched—not by effort, not by skill, not by yoga, not by meditation, but through perfect understanding of your true position confirmed, through grace, inside the Heart.
Grace must be there, but for grace to reveal herself, the hunger for truth, combined with humility, devotion and openness must come first.
Arrogance cannot be there. It can be there in the beginning, but not in the end. Arrogance cannot be there for it is the breath and odour of the devil. It will be swept away by the power and light of Truth.
~ Mooji
You have to go beyond this identification with the body and with the person, otherwise, it is going to kill you.
By this I mean, it will suffocate your spontaneity and clog up your pure intelligence.
Who, among us, is going to be the one to shake it off? And to what extent will you accomplish this?
It has got to be to such an extent that thereafter, it won’t matter where you go, only the scenes will change but you, the Seer, remain unchanging. You will stay untouched—not by effort, not by skill, not by yoga, not by meditation, but through perfect understanding of your true position confirmed, through grace, inside the Heart.
Grace must be there, but for grace to reveal herself, the hunger for truth, combined with humility, devotion and openness must come first.
Arrogance cannot be there. It can be there in the beginning, but not in the end. Arrogance cannot be there for it is the breath and odour of the devil. It will be swept away by the power and light of Truth.
~ Mooji
I can relate to that. I remember meditating for hours regularly. I started to sleep less naturally and it came to a point where even meditation was not important as I was able to get detached to even the meditation routine. It's about being in the moment and nothing else.
I continue to share Mooji's daily quotes here. I hope that you enjoy them as much as I do, they keep me going.
Uncover your eternal Being; your true nature freed from the grip of delusions.
Discover the one true Self which is here serving itself out as unconditioned Love.
Find and Be the life that is filled with the holy spirit.
~ Mooji
You are timelessly free.
You are the Self now, but you must recognise this deep inside your heart.
Don’t listen to the devious mind for he has never really served the Truth.
You have to strike him at his root now.
Put the axe at the root and cut him.
Feel no compassion for him, for he is busy arranging a womb for your next birth.
~ Mooji
greybeard
2nd May 2014, 11:54
Hi Guish thanks for your contributions which are much appreciated.
Chris
Thanks Chris. Meeting Avalon members was like meeting friends I haven't met for a long time ago.
As soon as you recognise your true nature as the unchanging Awareness and confirm your position as That itself, the unchanging One, it won't matter anymore what the psychological, personal mind is saying.
Its play and presence will become distant, like looking at the moon in full daylight. You won’t be listening to it for very long, I tell you.
It will gradually lose its influence and appeal and fall away.
~ Mooji
As soon as you recognise your true nature as the unchanging Awareness and confirm your position as That itself, the unchanging One, it won't matter anymore what the psychological, personal mind is saying.
Its play and presence will become distant, like looking at the moon in full daylight. You won’t be listening to it for very long, I tell you.
It will gradually lose its influence and appeal and fall away.
~ Mooji
Yogananda recommended meditation to be done three times a day so that the mind stays tuned to the real self. However, with time, it can be seen that detachment can be applied to most actions done in a day and one can selectively choose and ignore thoughts throughout the day. Small breaks at work can also be used to switch off the mind.
This is a funny one.
The Self has no desires, not even the desire to kill or transcend the ego.
For the Self, ego does not exist.
~ Mooji
This is a funny one.
The Self has no desires, not even the desire to kill or transcend the ego.
For the Self, ego does not exist.
~ Mooji
Haha. Good one. I get the feeling that it's hinting towards the power of no action. If you look at Budha's story, you 'll see that Maya sent virgin girls to tempt Budha. He felt no need to fight off his tendencies or force the virgins to go by anger. He simply did nothing and they vanished because Budha ignored them. I think we should not continuously think about the ego and how to transcend it. We should rather focus on calming the mind. The rest will take care of itself.
greybeard
4th May 2014, 21:57
"Grounded" is an independent feature film about what is considered by many authorities to be "The Greatest Health RE-discovery of All Time". The concept was tested on the people of Haines, Alaska , (population 1,700.) Now showing on Youtube for free for a limited time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgwF0tpioTU
Thanks to Transients
http://www.transients.info/
Grizz Griswold
5th May 2014, 01:53
Great video Chris
When I was little I went barefoot and ate mud pies.
Mud squishing up between my toes and playing in mud puddles for hours.
So innocent so happy and not a care-- now that was being grounded.
When we grow up we add on layers and insulate ourselves from the world.
Think I'll go meditate in the mud.
All the best....Grizz
greybeard
5th May 2014, 09:01
The only Remedy for Suffering on the Planet
Namasté
A satsang dialogue:
Can it be this simple?
Mooji often speaks about spending some minutes each day or as often as possible to contemplate the unassociated "I AM". (Incidentially, this is how Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj obtained self-realization).
In this video, Mooji takes this comtemplation of the 'I AM' one step further and points to this contemplation as being the "only remedy for the suffering on the planet".
To add any personal thoughts, to this video satsang, would be redundant. "Everything" is in that which Mooji speaks in this video.
This is the full satsang video (approximately 30 minutes long)
mooji.org (official website); Music clips: Omkara (aka Lauren Piazza) "Om Namah Shivaya" fromthesilence.com
This is Advaita Jivanmukti. Coming back soon. ;o)
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Om Shanti
~ Blessings to You ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNyBEJ9ux9k
greybeard
5th May 2014, 09:06
David Sereda The Voice The Cosmos and Quantum Universe Documentary (1)
Published on 20 Jul 2013
Interesting documentary about the universe and how everything communicates on a quantum level. Everything is connected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwb08jKRQ9Y
Zampano
5th May 2014, 09:07
Oh..wow Chris-what a great documentary! Grounded
You should make an own thread with it ;-)
greybeard
5th May 2014, 09:12
Oh..wow Chris-what a great documentary! Grounded
You should make an own thread with it ;-)
Good idea Zampano---why dont you----smiling.
Best wishes
Chris
Zampano
5th May 2014, 12:28
Thats what I wanted to hear, Chris...lol
Here on of the more interesting documentaries I have seen in the last weeks-interesting approach
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Supra sexuality is the result of sexual transmutation. Christ, Buddha, Dante, Zoroaster,
Mohammed, Hermes, Quetzalcoatl and many other great Masters were Suprasexual.
Man has the power to recreate himself. Man is able to create within himself a Superman.
This is possible using the sexual power wisely. We can recreate ourselves as authentic
Supermen. This is only possible with sexual transmutation. The fundamental key for
sexual transmutation is the Arcanum A.Z.F. (Sexual Magic).
In the union of the phallus arid the uterus is found the key of all power. The important
thing is that the couples learn how to retire from the sexual act before the spasm, before
the seminal loss. One must not spill the semen; neither within the uterus nor without, nor
to the side, nor anywhere. Thus we speak clearly so people will understand, although
some puritanical infrasexuals judge us to be pornographic.
The Superman is not the result of evolution. The Superman is born of the Seed. The
Superman is the result of a tremendous revolution of consciousness. The Superman is the
Son of Man mentioned by Christ. The Superman is Adam Christ.
Evolution means that nothing stands still; everyone lives within the concepts of time,
space and movement. Nature in itself contains all possibilities. Nobody reaches
perfection with evolution. Some be come better, and the vast majority become terribly
perverse. That is evolution. The man of innocence, the man of paradise of several million
years ago is now, after much evolution the man of the atomic bomb, the man of the
hydrogen bomb and the corrupted being of embezzlement and crime. Evolution is a
process of complication of energy. We need to return to the point of departure (sex) and
regenerate ourselves. Man is a living seed. The seed, the grain must exert itself to
germinate the Superman. This is not evolution. This is a tremendous Revolution of
Consciousness. With just reason Christ said, "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the
wilderness, even so must the son of man be lifted up."
The Son of Man is Adam Christ, the Superman.
With sexual transmutation we can completely regenerate ourselves. The age of sexual
ecstasy is always preceded by the age of sexual pleasure. The same energy that produces
sexual pleasure, when it is transmuted then produces ecstasy.
The lamp of the hermit of the Ninth Arcanum, which is normally found enclosed in the
deep caverns of the sexual organs, must be placed in the tower of the Temple. This tower
is the brain. Then we become illuminated. That is the truly positive path that transforms
us into Masters of Samãdhi (ecstasy).
Every true technique of internal meditation is intimately related with sexual
transmutation. We need to raise the lamp very high to illuminate ourselves.
The birth of the Superman is an absolutely sexual problem. We need to be born again to
enter the Kingdom of the Heavens. The Superman is as different from man as the
lightning is from the black cloud. The lightning comes from the cloud but it is not the
cloud. The lightning is the Superman; the cloud is man. Sexual regeneration puts into
activity the powers that we had in Eden. We lost those powers when we fell into animal
generation. We reconquer those powers when we regenerate ourselves.
Only through the Path of the Perfect Matrimony can we reach suprasexuality.
Be aware of this persistent feeling that there's something more to do in order to attain the Self.
Somehow, you have been brought, so far, to a stage where you are encouraged to leave aside all intentions, projections, fantasies and simply keep quiet inside your being.
Mind is inclined to say this is not enough. It is suggesting you take some action. However, the Master tells you to keep quiet and to focus on the Silence of your Heart rather than the rush of the mind. You are advised to avoid the trap of waiting for something to happen.
There may arise a little tension because of this advice to not go with the movement from mind. Learn to bear your own Silence by observing the tensions encircling it. Observe rather than react. Again, keep quiet.
Stay only as Awareness.
~ Mooji
To know yourself as fully as you can, is to recognize you already contain everything your mind wants. ~Bashar
To know yourself as fully as you can is to recognize you already contain everything your mind wants, but doesn't know it has. Self-revelation, when you are yourself the payoff is, your reality actually already contains everything that your experiantially segregated mind thinks it needs to work for to get. The idea is that you are already a complete kit, you already contain all the things your life needs to support you in all the possible ways that abundance can support you, that excitement can support you, that creativity can support you, that love can support you, you already have it all, you already contain it all. It's just that your mind playing the separation game doesn't recognize that.
By being yourself as fully as you can, what you come into the awareness of and what the payoff is, so to speak, for being yourself in the here and now living in the moment completely, is that you suddenly recognize that your reality already contains all the things you need. And they can start to manifest and show themselves to you because they're not out there, they're right here, they're part of you, they're just reflections of you, and when you are in the proper state to see those reflections, remember you cannot perceive what you're not the vibration of, when you are the proper vibration that knows you already contain everything you need then your reality can reflect that to you, through the course of synchronistic manifestation. ~Bashar
Grizz Griswold
6th May 2014, 02:57
Chris, here is a reading of the Alchemist it holds some spiritual truths and some may enjoy it.
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Namaste.....Grizz
greybeard
6th May 2014, 05:42
Thanks Grizz I really enjoy audio books.
Chris
If you put your full attention on consciousness, it is compelled to open its flower.
When your mind's heart is in the position of "YES", your absorption is immediate.
YES means : "I am open to you, O Supreme Being, who alone exists. Remove any notion of separation".
~ Mooji
6th of May, 2014
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Observe rather than react. Again, keep quiet.
Stay only as Awareness.
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This is a crucial attitude that is developed with practice. One of the foundations of spirituality is to act and not react to circumstances. This is why it is important to be calm. A calm mind is wise and acts wisely and doesn't react.
Do not allow your mind to become so easily disturbed by the fleeting soap bubble experiences of this world.
Know your mind's essence to be imperishable, indivisible and unborn. Without your Self, nothing is; for things cannot be their own witness. It is in the light of sentience that the world is seen.
You are not an object. All phenomena reports to the consciousness in You, the formless Self. Know your Self to be That in which they arise, play and are eventually absorbed.
This very day, life will reveal a taste of the miracle of your real existence. Without expectations or projections, simply be open to this.
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Listen to this Youtube as though you have only 5 minutes left to live!
There's only you and me here now. What takes no time, no effort?
Don't give me the verbal answer. You BE the answer.
What you are never started, so it can never stop. It cannot leave, because it never came.
~ Mooji
greybeard
7th May 2014, 18:53
He certainly does not miss the wall.
There is no escape when you listen to Mooji.
We are back to "What is really important?"
Thanks Wind---keep them coming.
Chris
Grizz Griswold
7th May 2014, 23:02
Hi Chris, here is a good one by Eckhart Tolle
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Hope everyone enjoys.....all the best.....grizz
Seeker of Truth, if you should get the opportunity to meet an awakened Being and ask one question only, I would advise you to ask a freedom question and not merely a knowledge question. Knowledge questions are mostly asked from the position of a personal self and the answers tends to develop one's mind and often one's ego also; they rarely take you directly to the source.
A freedom question is fresh and risky, and the answer could, profoundly, change something today. It could completely reshape your perspective of life and who you take yourself to be as the one ‘living' it. The answer, received inside, could bring about a transformation from caterpillar to butterfly.
What could be a good example of a freedom question?
It could be:
"Without great pain or years of practice, is it possible to realise my eternal nature, and if it is, can you help me discover it today?"
If asked with a sincere wish to be liberated in this life-time, a freedom question will lead you to one whose light and presence will stir something deep inside your being.
They will not let your mind escape or waste time with any cleverness or distractions, but will steadily guide and walk with you till you are again absorbed in your true Heart - the Supreme Self.
~ Mooji
Via Transients.info (http://www.transients.info/2014/05/i-am-not-my-body-my-mind-or-my-emotions.html).
I am not my Body, my Mind or my Emotions
By Linda George via The Waking Times, 7 May 2014
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Every so often, the Universe, Great Spirit, the Divine… reminds us that we are spiritual beings having a human experience. “I am not my body, I am not my mind, I am not my thoughts – nor am I the emotions generated by my thoughts…”
I think we all need this reminder – on a regular basis. We forget so easily, the truth of who we really are. We become enmeshed, moment to moment, in the experience of being human – in the endless dramas, the constant stream of thoughts and their accompanying emotions. We feel our emotions (energy in motion) pricking through collections of molecules and muscles in our bodies: the nervous flutterings of the solar plexus, the contraction of the heart, the quietly furrowed brow and tight lips, the shallow breath, the held breath, the hunched shoulders. Our thoughts and emotions consume us, draining our life force, our vitality, carrying us away and cutting us off from the people we are with, and the beauty or ordinariness of the places we are in. Lost in the jungle of our minds, we forget that we are pure consciousness, infinite and eternal, temporarily occupying this physical body. We forget that our heritage is timelessness; that this moment is where we live, and all we will take from this world is the wisdom imprinted on our souls and the love we have shared. That is all.
It is true this physical life is time consuming. That is its nature, after all. To BE in time. Most of us are occupied in every waking moment, with the business of time. It takes time to work, to make a living, to maintain a home, to maintain relationships, to maintain the body. That is as it is. But we should also make time to be timeless. To stop for a while. To sit in silence and turn inwards. To bring the full focus of our awareness onto and into our heart centre. To meditate on Who we are. In the heart, the seat of the soul, is a voice that will tell us the truth. To hear it we need to step out of the busy-ness of life and make time to be still. Naturally enough, time-entrenched habits will prevail. Thoughts will continue their chattering and the body will seek our attention, reminding us through an assortment of discomforts, of its existence. It isn’t easy to get past it all and be still – in mind and body. Yet this stillness is what we must seek and practice, until old habits are broken and new ones created – if we want to know the truth of who we are. Not only that. There is a great bonus to this commitment to stillness, this withdrawing of attention inwards. Dr. Paul Brunton expressed it more eloquently than I could, in this way:
“The man who follows this quest is like the ray which is returning to its source. When he follows the ‘I AM’ in him to its hidden root, when the intellectual process of his enquiry gradually develops into a subtler inner movement, he will sooner or later enter – intermittently at first – a condition of impersonal freedom and utter peace……….When the mind’s depth is plumbed he will arrive at a point where both the thinking intellect and personal self seem almost to become re-absorbed by the hidden element which created them. That element is none other than the Absolute Being, the One Overself, the Supreme Reality and Underlying Spirit which subsists eternally amid the births and deaths of mortal men and material worlds. This august revelation awaits him even at the beginning of his first fumbling steps on the quest.” (Dr Paul Brunton: ‘Quest of the Overself’, p. 215)
Let us then begin the quest; take those first fumbling steps. Why not make this commitment to sit, each day, for a certain period of time. We could see it as an experiment at first, approaching it in a spirit of curiosity. What will happen? How will this feel? What, after all, is there to lose? The busy-ness of the life will be there when we return. Nothing of any importance will be lost. We know studies have shown the benefits of meditation – so we have only to gain, surely, through making this commitment to ourselves. A true knowing may fully reveal itself: I am not my body, I am not my mind, I am not my emotions… What better use can we make of time – other than to sit in timelessness.
And look what beckons! Freedom, peace and the ultimate revelation of the truth of who we really are. One and the same. The same and One.
greybeard
11th May 2014, 07:04
An Informal Evening with Gregg Braden
Gregg Braden comes to Mystic Journey Bookstore in Venice to discuss his newest book, The Turning Point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q8XKZQL888
Eckhart and Oprah having a funny conversation.
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bodhii71
11th May 2014, 19:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aBx0aBsZkc
This may resonate with some, I've listen to several of Matthew's videos, they resonate very deeply with me.
minkton
12th May 2014, 10:38
Thanks for that video, Wind!
It's nice to see this chat between these two, Oprah and e.t.... Just want to add a clarification to what was said. When a person points out their ego at work... It's just the ego noticing ego, just ego commentating on a less conscious part of the ego.. So it's an interaction on the sub personality level.
It means your ego is getting clever at noticing what it finds undesirable, usually some thought or behaviour that doesn't work very well, or something that doesn't elicit approval...a process analogous to the training of a puppy, by a dog...
Follow your intuitive sense of the Divine within.
Welcome its presence and vibration. Like this, your insight opens to fully recognise the Real as your own Self.
The awakened heart invites and allows the Supreme to shine its light upon the world.
The ego is like God’s egg that must hatch open to bring that divine light into the world. To hatch means to discover one's real nature.
Through one's own Satsang (http://endless-satsang.com/nondual-advaita-satsang.htm), something inside is maturing enough to be merged in God.
And remember: God is not different from you.
It is not like you move out and God moves in.
He is You. God is your truest Self - the Supreme Self.
Keep saying 'Yes' inside your heart and fall fully inside the Beloved.
~ Mooji
12th of May, 2014
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greybeard
15th May 2014, 11:31
Non Duality - Awakenings (loaded 14 May 2014) On Conscious TV with other new interviews.
Miranda Macpherson - Be Nothing Do Nothing Get Nothing Become Nothing - Interview by Renate McNay (watch this programme)
Author of the book Boundless Love, Miranda has been teaching since 1995 and is known for her depth of presence, clarity and refined capacity to guide people into direct experience of the sacred. In this interview she tells us of her 'Dark Night of the Soul' begging God to let her die. Eventually she experienced profound Non Dual awakening while Meditating in Ramana Maharshi's cave and her life was completely changed. She says, "Our soul is longing to belong to humanity and Enlightenment is the Human Nature."
To be found here http://www.conscious.tv/
Grizz Griswold
15th May 2014, 14:48
Thanks for the Miranda Macpherson video
I wonder, How many of have had similar
'Dark Night of the Soul' experience?......
that has begun an Awakening.......
Namaste......barry
Guish
15th May 2014, 15:37
Follow your intuitive sense of the Divine within.
Welcome its presence and vibration. Like this, your insight opens to fully recognise the Real as your own Self.
The awakened heart invites and allows the Supreme to shine its light upon the world.
The ego is like God’s egg that must hatch open to bring that divine light into the world. To hatch means to discover one's real nature.
Through one's own Satsang (http://endless-satsang.com/nondual-advaita-satsang.htm), something inside is maturing enough to be merged in God.
And remember: God is not different from you.
It is not like you move out and God moves in.
He is You. God is your truest Self - the Supreme Self.
Keep saying 'Yes' inside your heart and fall fully inside the Beloved.
~ Mooji
12th of May, 2014
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I like this. It's similar to Budha's quote that peace lies within ourselves and not outside. People want to be peaceful and try to be so by trying to improve their material lives to the detriment of their spiritual lives.
greybeard
15th May 2014, 15:45
Hi Barry
yes a great video---ultimately surrender, as she says is the way.
Dark Night of the Soul has come and gone from time to time.
Alcoholism forced me into surrender but of course when I felt better the ego started a take over job yet gain and again and again.
I am truly indebted to, first Indian teachers Yogananda, Ramana, Sai Baba, Dr Goels, Ramesh, --- then Eckhart Tolle-- then Dr David Hawkins and of course ACIM.
Currently reading Nasargadatta "I am That".
I have yet to meet any one, who consistently seeks ultimate Truth, who has not gone trough some form of personal hell.
Aside from alcoholism-- there was pneumonia twice, the bust spleen as a youngster and two near drownings, several close shaves in cars-- two burst ulcers, nine lives maybe.
Each time I asked God to take me home--I was taken to the edge of staring death in the face and swiftly came to appreciate this life experience again.
With love
Chris
Guish
15th May 2014, 17:24
Hi Barry
yes a great video---ultimately surrender, as she says is the way.
Dark Night of the Soul has come and gone from time to time.
Alcoholism forced me into surrender but of course when I felt better the ego started a take over job yet gain and again and again.
I am truly indebted to, first Indian teachers Yogananda, Ramana, Sai Baba, Dr Goels, Ramesh, --- then Eckhart Tolle-- then Dr David Hawkins and of course ACIM.
Currently reading Nasargadatta "I am That".
I have yet to meet any one, who consistently seeks ultimate Truth, who has not gone trough some form of personal hell.
Aside from alcoholism-- there was pneumonia twice, the bust spleen as a youngster and two near drownings, several close shaves in cars-- two burst ulcers, nine lives maybe.
Each time I asked God to take me home--I was taken to the edge of staring death in the face and swiftly came to appreciate this life experience again.
With love
Chris
Tough life, Chris. It reminds me of Batman Begins. " we fall down so that we can learn how to get up".
Grizz Griswold
15th May 2014, 18:07
Hi Barry
yes a great video---ultimately surrender, as she says is the way.
Dark Night of the Soul has come and gone from time to time.
Alcoholism forced me into surrender but of course when I felt better the ego started a take over job yet gain and again and again.
I am truly indebted to, first Indian teachers Yogananda, Ramana, Sai Baba, Dr Goels, Ramesh, --- then Eckhart Tolle-- then Dr David Hawkins and of course ACIM.
Currently reading Nasargadatta "I am That".
I have yet to meet any one, who consistently seeks ultimate Truth, who has not gone trough some form of personal hell.
Aside from alcoholism-- there was pneumonia twice, the bust spleen as a youngster and two near drownings, several close shaves in cars-- two burst ulcers, nine lives maybe.
Each time I asked God to take me home--I was taken to the edge of staring death in the face and swiftly came to appreciate this life experience again.
With love
Chris
Yes chris, i guess iv'e went through similar experiences, first there was alcohol and drugs, they almost killed me. Then after that there was a depression and anxiety
so deep and long that i had to force myself up in the mornings. Then there was anger so bad that i constantly made plans to fight and defend myself and family, eventually
it got to the point, i couldn't tell what reality actually was....one night i was in such bad shape that i was cussing god and the devil telling them to do their worst because dying
would have had to been a relief.....i had to give up...there wasn't anything left in me to try with......i wish i was like Eckhart Tolle, spontaneous awakening....but it wasn't. I found ACIM on a shelf and it was like a voice said "this is what your'e looking for" my search for awakening has been long and it's still going on...but i found out one truth there
is nothing real in this world except what you can look on with love.....iv'e still read after other teachers Tolle, Ramana, and Nasargadatta ....but in all of them still the one truth seems to be love......Loving my brother, myself and god....because we are one self.
With Love also
barry
greybeard
15th May 2014, 18:54
I forgot to mention AA---without that there would be no self alive.
I was convinced I would be dead by the age of thirty--that was very nearly a self fulfilling prophesy.
I was hospitalized three time prior to that and each time I thought I could control my drinking--ha ha.
Thank you for sharing Barry I can identify strongly with what you said.
Only those who have been there truly know that it is hell on earth and that is not a brief encounter, it goes on month after month day by day minute by minute. Death is welcome in that state.
However when God is sincerely asked to end the misery the unexpected happens--you are shown --drawn to another way of being.
Ramesh said "If spiritual teaching does not help you in this life what good is it?"
Well here "I am" and here I stand though the Grace of God.
I dont normally talk too much about back then but a reason for everything.
I am moved by what you say and share Barry.
Wind is also a valued friend and the world is a better place through those that share on this thread and elsewhere
With love
Chris
Grizz Griswold
15th May 2014, 19:20
Thanks chris, maybe by our sharing, it will help those that are now just becoming ready to awaken into light.
All bad things gone through will have been for the good if it will help us Awaken and
especially if it helps some one else...Maybe we do all have our jobs to do in awakening.
Not the i but our true selves.....With Love....barry
Ps...chris..much gratitude for your being so positve....it brings all of us up with you
you also Wind and tim
Thank you Chris and Grizz... I too am moved. I prefer not to talk too much about me or the past, but if I hadn't suffered both physically and enperienced mental anguish and utter hell, I probably would not be on this path. I truly wished to die so that I would not have to experience that immense pain, but I could not bring myself to end my life. I still experience anxiety, confusion and sadness from time to time, but I allow those feelings to pass through me. Previously they defined me.
When I was young I just often had the question in my mind that "Who I am". I somehow knew that I was so much more than my body and mind, but I truly did not get it before I read Eckhart Tolle's book The Power of Now. I am eternally thankful to God for his grace and I have had many good friends and I can say that Chris has been like a mentor to me.
Here are the latest videos from Mooji and Tolle.
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That's what all of this is about: Do you know where you already are? The becoming is fine, but not as good as the Being. When you know you are the Being, then becoming is playful.
The one who takes themselves to be a person and who believes in time, this one is inclined to feel bound by time and in time. But I'm reminding you now: You are the timeless Self. The sense of becoming is just the play of the manifest world. And the awakened being knows this, and it's more playful for them. They cannot take all of this seriously because they know clearly it is an illusion and has no substance to it. This is what happens when you wake up to the Truth.
Rather than panicking at the thought that time is slipping away and that your life is slipping away with time, you will know that what is slipping away is only belonging to time and is illusion. What you are cannot slip away; you are the ever-present, the ever-alive, the ever-true, the timeless Self. This is my message to you. Hold to this understanding, until there's NO ROOM for misunderstanding left in you. So that, this life, you will discover your innate freedom. So, BE HAPPY.
Music: Om singing, by the Sangha; flute by Gaurav Raturi
~ Mooji
Guish
16th May 2014, 16:24
Tolle's video is insightful. The external identity is formed because we want to fit society. Is it what we really are? If it is, are we in peace with ourselves having this identity? If not, what is our reality? The body dies. Identity changes with time. So, why cling to it?
greybeard
16th May 2014, 20:27
To be found on this link at Conscious TV
http://www.conscious.tv/
Life Stories - Authors (loaded 14 May 2014)
Alan Budge - Challenges of The Spiritual Path - Interview by Iain McNay (watch this programme)
Author of For God's Sake, Alan describes this book as the true story of his tragi-comic quest for spiritual enlightenment. He says, "Having given up on the entirely godless realm of would-be smart London restaurants, I journeyed widely through India, China, Tibet, and parts of West Yorkshire. I also worked for various would-be deeply spiritual organisations. This unflinching quest for truth led, not entirely unexpectedly, to a far from enlightened descent into alcoholism and misery. But then after sobering up I began to ponder: what is really at the heart of all this spiritual carry-on? Can it be of any use, given the challenges we face?"
Also
Mike Kewley - You Are Not What You Think - Interview by Iain McNay (watch this programme)
Mike was obsessed with becoming enlightened since childhood - for him that was the point... of living. He knew from an early age that the voice in his head wasn't him. He had some terrifying experiences of no-self which led to panic attacks and depression. Eventually he decided that he needed to drop the desire for enlightenment and somehow fix his life; after a time, he was much happier. He then had the experience that ended his search for enlightenment. Mike said, "There's just the impersonal flow of awareness being everything without exception, no way to get it and no way to get out of it. It basks in the ordinary and mundane as well as the fireworks."
Gangaji - What is Enlightenment?
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"When we are willing to stop and experience the clear light of our own consciousness, free from concepts of enlightenment, we discover what is always here. We can directly experience the truth."
Chester
17th May 2014, 13:02
Seeker of Truth, if you should get the opportunity to meet an awakened Being and ask one question only, I would advise you to ask a freedom question and not merely a knowledge question. Knowledge questions are mostly asked from the position of a personal self and the answers tends to develop one's mind and often one's ego also; they rarely take you directly to the source.
A freedom question is fresh and risky, and the answer could, profoundly, change something today. It could completely reshape your perspective of life and who you take yourself to be as the one ‘living' it. The answer, received inside, could bring about a transformation from caterpillar to butterfly.
What could be a good example of a freedom question?
It could be:
"Without great pain or years of practice, is it possible to realise my eternal nature, and if it is, can you help me discover it today?"
If asked with a sincere wish to be liberated in this life-time, a freedom question will lead you to one whose light and presence will stir something deep inside your being.
They will not let your mind escape or waste time with any cleverness or distractions, but will steadily guide and walk with you till you are again absorbed in your true Heart - the Supreme Self.
~ Mooji
Am I free to dive back into the deep end of the pool in the middle of the night when the pool light is broken?
YES!
And I have... enlightened (Yes, the Inner Light now shines forth radiantly).
In watching the Dr. Hagelin interview a few posts back I heard from John what I knew.
Enlightenment is not the goal... enlightenment is just the beginning.
Time to live fully and... freely!
Guish
17th May 2014, 15:58
Gangaji - What is Enlightenment?
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"When we are willing to stop and experience the clear light of our own consciousness, free from concepts of enlightenment, we discover what is always here. We can directly experience the truth."
Don't you know about the zen monk who burned all his books after he became enlightened? Once we know the way, there's no other way.
Chester
18th May 2014, 14:17
Goooooood Morning Viet Earth!
Its wonderful to be stark, raving enlightened!
Obnoxiously enlightened as I have become.
I was called "incorrigible" the other day - YES!
GarethBKK
19th May 2014, 05:15
Adyashanti via Sounds True, the main subject, his book, Resurrecting Jesus.
Assuming the link works, you will find on line an hour long discussion with Adyashanti discussing spirituality and the book.
This can be downloaded free.
Chris
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Hi Chris,
Following your post on Adya, I went and purchased his book, Resurrecting Jesus: Embodying the spirit of a revolutionary mystic. It's his best yet. Incredible to hear how this student/teacher of Zen had his heart blown open by the works of Christian mystics, including Jesus from the Gospels. I'm not a practicing Christian, but find a lot of love in the way that the Gospels are seen as a way of being
In the book Adya tells of how he fell in love with St Thérèse de Lisieux after reading her autobiography, The Story of a Soul. I've long felt that my reading is guided, and while reading one book, the next to read will become obvious. So, I finished reading Adya and bought The Story of a Soul. Like Adya, my heart was blown wide open by this saint. I have never read anything so beautiful. The Gospels are to be lived, and that is what she did. That St Thérèse was denied me until I was ready to receive her is clear.
In 1997, Pope John Paul II declared St Thérèse de Lisieux a Doctor of the Church. If you are unfamiliar with the story of St Thérèse, I recommend reading the Pope's statement:
http://www.littleflower.org/abouttherese/learn/popesStatement.asp
There is only love.
greybeard
19th May 2014, 09:20
Hi Gareth
Thanks for the information
wishing you a good day in Wales.
Love Chris
True love, peace, joy, wisdom and lasting contentment do not require any effort in themselves. Why?
Because they are the natural fragrances inside your very nature, and what is natural is also effortless and need only be discovered.
Therefore consider: Beyond a certain necessary stage, could not your very efforts become an obstacle to recognising the wholeness already present inside your heart?
A wholeness that can only to be recognised, not developed.
Seek the Lord's or Satguru's grace.
~ Mooji
May 2014 19th of May, 2014
Guish
19th May 2014, 16:39
True love, peace, joy, wisdom and lasting contentment do not require any effort in themselves. Why?
Because they are the natural fragrances inside your very nature, and what is natural is also effortless and need only be discovered.
Therefore consider: Beyond a certain necessary stage, could not your very efforts become an obstacle to recognising the wholeness already present inside your heart?
A wholeness that can only to be recognised, not developed.
Seek the Lord's or Satguru's grace.
~ Mooji
May 2014 19th of May, 2014
Thanks, Wind. It reminds me of the effortless effort concept in Zen. When one is totally immersed in an activity, there's no other thought in the mind. In fact, the mind is blank. I remember the days I used to go for a ride on my bike to have those blank moments.
greybeard
20th May 2014, 08:29
Regarding reincarnation
Q: You must believe in having lived before.
M: The scriptures say so, but I know nothing about it.
I know myself as I am: as I appeared or will appear is not within my experience.
It is not that I do not remember . In fact there is nothing to remember.
Reincarnation implies a reincarnated self There is no such thing The bundles of memories and hopes called the “I” , imagines itself existing everlastingly and creates time to accommodate its false eternity.
To be I need no past or future.
All experience is born of imagination; I do not imagine, so no birth or death happens to me. Only those who think themselves born can think themselves re-born
You are accusing me of having been born I plead not guilty.
Page 252 I am That Nasargadatta Maharaj.
On another page Nasargadatta speak about what happens after death---this does not apply to him as with enlightenment there is the realisation that there never was a person to be born or to die.
In essence he says that imagination (belief system) takes you to the experience you believe awaits you on death.
This is all part of the dream. (to be clear you are still in the dream state after death of the body)
For the fully awakened reality is quite different than what the dreamer imagines is real.
The enlightened endeavour to release you from the dream state.
I have read "I am That" quite a few times and understanding deepens each time.
Paragraphs I had not been ready to notice catch my awareness and hold it.
When beginning the search its like learning a completely new language.
Chris
greybeard
20th May 2014, 09:22
A big challenge for new seekers is the levels of teaching and seemingly different paths.
Incidentally I would say that Eclhart Tolle is appropriate to all students be they new to spirituality or old hands.
The mind wants more and more information.
It can all be summed up in this statement.
"Only "God" is --I am That"
The mind--ego does not want to hear this and will find all kinds of diversions--claiming some to be spiritual.
Been there done it.
Now I dont need to know about chakras, ascended masters, angelic beings, violet light, etc.
Dr Hawkins described this as the spiritual merry go round.
Who is it that wants to know?
I dont even fully know what I am yet.
Is that not lunacy!!!
Dr Hawkins also described this as a lunatic asylum---we have to be mad to conform---laughing.
Mooji is excellent at getting one to focus on the Truth of what you are.
The "path" gets narrower and narrower till there is the realisation that paths tend to lead away, they are mainly external and most see God as somehow separate from Self.
All you need to know is within --true the external guru is a great help to point to the Truth.
With love Chris
Grizz Griswold
20th May 2014, 12:58
A big challenge for new seekers is the levels of teaching and seemingly different paths.
Incidentally I would say that Eclhart Tolle is appropriate to all students be they new to spirituality or old hands.
The mind wants more and more information.
It can all be summed up in this statement.
"Only "God" is --I am That"
The mind--ego does not want to hear this and will find all kinds of diversions--claiming some to be spiritual.
Been there done it.
Now I dont need to know about chakras, ascended masters, angelic beings, violet light, etc.
Dr Hawkins described this as the spiritual merry go round.
Who is it that wants to know?
I dont even fully know what I am yet.
Is that not lunacy!!!
Dr Hawkins also described this as a lunatic asylum---we have to be mad to conform---laughing.
Mooji is excellent at getting one to focus on the Truth of what you are.
The "path" gets narrower and narrower till there is the realisation that paths tend to lead away, they are mainly external and most see God as somehow separate from Self.
All you need to know is within --true the external guru is a great help to point to the Truth.
With love Chris
Chris, i think what you said above is about the best description of what a seeker goes through
even for some seekers who have been around a while. Some new path might look good until we
find this new path causes us lack of peace,something to be resisted or an enemy there. it always
comes back to basics....the kingdom is within us...look within....always the very simple.
Love ....barry
Shezbeth
20th May 2014, 13:58
True and impermeable enlightenment is not a state of being or a static threshold any more than an individual is permanent and static. It cannot be taught, described, given, incited, pointed or directed to; it can only be individually found, usually by those not seeking it in the first place. Those who can, do; those who cannot do, attempt to teach. IMO.
greybeard
20th May 2014, 15:56
True and impermeable enlightenment is not a state of being or a static threshold any more than an individual is permanent and static. It cannot be taught, described, given, incited, pointed or directed to; it can only be individually found, usually by those not seeking it in the first place. Those who can, do; those who cannot do, attempt to teach. IMO.
All true---nobody can give it to you, as you are already it.
However those who have realised this can point to this and say---You are That.
Thanks Shezbeth
Chris
Shezbeth
20th May 2014, 16:57
True, but saying "You are that" is not necessarily indication of having the experience. There are a variety of spiritual pimps and profundity peddlers who make a good show of things they are nescient of.
According to the books, Carlos Castaneda was accused of such by Don Juan during their initial interactions, when he was still working/operating as an anthropolgist.
greybeard
20th May 2014, 17:15
True, but saying "You are that" is not necessarily indication of having the experience. There are a variety of spiritual pimps and profundity peddlers who make a good show of things they are nescient of.
According to the books, Carlos Castaneda was accused of such by Don Juan during their initial interactions, when he was still working/operating as an anthropolgist.
Yes many are the deluded---its not an experience---they come and go--- but a natural state.
However not myself knowing/being in this state I cant speak of it first hand.
Namaste
Chris
Guish
20th May 2014, 17:58
^ Strong points laid by all of you. Enlightenment is a natural state which is not easily attained because of the ego, poor living habits, attachment and mental confusion caused by the factors just mentioned. The key is meditation as it helps to get detached from all of them. Yogananda suggests praying, fasting and pure actions as alternatives to reach god realization, which means recognizing one's true self.
greybeard
20th May 2014, 18:03
^ Strong points laid by all of you. Enlightenment is a natural state which is not easily attained because of the ego, poor living habits, attachment and mental confusion caused by the factors just mentioned. The key is meditation as it helps to get detached from all of them. Yogananda suggests praying, fasting and pure actions as alternatives to reach god realization, which means recognizing one's true self.
Dear Guish
Divine Romance by Yogananda was an early inspiration as was Autobiography of a yogi.
His body did not deteriorate as is normal on death.
Namaste
Chris
minkton
20th May 2014, 18:53
The "path" gets narrower and narrower till there is the realisation that paths tend to lead away, they are mainly external and most see God as somehow separate from Self.
Repeated for truth.
Thanks Chris.
Heh heh, my iPad auto corrected your name, Chris.... To Christ.
Dear Chris
Thank you for your tenacity and love in keeping this thread going.
It's inspiring to see it on the forum:
it teaches us generosity, patience, discipline, perseverance, concentration and transcendental wisdom.
It reminds us that every situation is our teacher, in the face of all adversity.
In a world of negativity, it is important to find something positive in every situation, and that is the expression of love.
Tony
greybeard
21st May 2014, 07:29
Thank you Tony for your comments, which are much appreciated.
I have never felt that it was "my" thread, rather a place for sharing.
I thank all who have posted contributed here and visited for without them the thread would have ended long ago.
It began in the original Avalon and truth be told I never expected it to last more than a few weeks and here we are years later and over 200 thousand visitors.
That's an indication of the growing number of people interested in the subject of enlightenment---non-duality etc
Namaste----I greet the God within.
Chris
Thank you Tony for your comments, which are much appreciated.
I have never felt that it was "my" thread, rather a place for sharing.
I thank all who have posted contributed here and visited for without them the thread would have ended long ago.
It began in the original Avalon and truth be told I never expected it to last more than a few weeks and here we are years later and over 200 thousand visitors.
That's an indication of the growing number of people interested in the subject of enlightenment---non-duality etc
Namaste----I greet the God within.
Chris
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
loungelizard
21st May 2014, 16:31
Hello Chris and everyone!
The thinking behind the suggestion that a teacher is not required on the spiritual journey is a fascinating topic :o
I wonder how much of what we are talking about here comes from a basic misunderstanding in the west, of the role of the teacher... There is a comprehensive book written about this by Alexander Berzin, called "Wise Teacher: Wise Student" http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/x/nav/group.html_1305527811.html
Our history in the west is of controlling, often corrupt religious bodies and perhaps it is this troubled chronicle that has given rise to the belief that we're better off without teachers.
There isn't a tradition of teacher/student relationship in the west, and yet there seems to be an assumption that we understand the dynamics of such a connection. Some in the west speak as if they have moved beyond such a relationship, blazing a trail of spiritual empowerment and individuality, which is their individual choice - but I don't see how the timeless function of transmission (which is primarily what the function of a teacher is) can be replicated.
The distrust of spiritual teachers (which isn't in itself unhealthy) could arise from a distrust of ourselves, and our ability to discern truth from falsehood. Maybe we think of spiritual mentors as those who proclaim their wisdom and set themselves up above the ordinary person, which has a ring of authoritarianism. Maybe we see them as preying on the vulnerable and gullible, and brainwashing them for their own advantage.
And all this has happened, and will probably always happen. No one said the path would be easy. People are people…and that refers to teachers and students. But if you've never encountered an authentic teacher (and it's taken me decades to find one :rolleyes: ) scepticism is perfectly understandable. There is always - as in any walk of life - a risk of an unhealthy relationship based on control, exploitation, dependence and fear. And that is where confidence in your own discrimination, and trust in your ability to be honest with yourself comes in: to be able to ask yourself whether the teacher is helping or hindering.
But…if we take the step to label all gurus as manipulators and their students as blind and desperate, we are simply stereotyping, and cutting ourselves off from a vast and profound resource. If we rely only on our own (fixed) viewpoint, and our inner seed of enlightenment, we could find that we have been merely dancing round in circles to the tune that our ego is merrily playing for lifetimes, to entertain us.
Westerners, who are educated to be individualists, have difficulty in grasping the concept that the guru is not so much a person as a function. Of course, the guru function depends for its performance on a human being, and therefore it always occurs in the context of a particular personality. This is what is the most confusing to Western students, who tend to get caught up in externals. —Georg Feuerstein
greybeard
21st May 2014, 16:51
Yes Loungelizard
there are several ways of looking at it.
I needed the books and several visits to ashrams in India to get to the point where I may not need a teacher---thats mainly because there is not one in Scotland that I know of.
Nasargadata was ever thankful for his Guru.
A translation of Guru can be "The remover of ignorance"
Apart from the words there can be a transference of energy---the grace of the guru.
In India linage is very important.
Love and trust of the guru is very important.
You love and trust the god within the guru who is communicating with the god within you.
Hence the saying "The teacher and the taught are the same"
In some ways learning about spirituality is a mine field---its a totally different language with specific meanings for certain words and the meaning of the word can vary from teacher to teacher.
Just "being" does not mean you sit and wait for enlightenment to happen.
Do what you do but the fruits are not yours---the end result is not down to you.
Part of the problem is that because we are talking about ultimate Truth posts can sometimes seem to leave no room for manoeuvre.
An interesting discussion can be had, that's for sure Loungelizard.
Chris
Nothingness, What Is, Emptiness, pure Consciousness, Self, natural Mind — all these terms are synonymous, they point to the one true Self.
Nothingness does not remove anything at all.
It neither attains nor transcends anything.
Nothingness is not affected or intimidated by anything.
It does not depend on anything.
It simply Is.
Being complete, it lacks nothing.
Therefore, nothing is required for Nothing to be.
Discovering oneself to be Nothing, this is Freedom.
~ Mooji
Mooji and Marley in the same video, this is way too funny!
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THE DIVINE GAME-SHOW
Discerning the real from the unreal — this is the greatest game on Earth, the game of transcendence. And what is to be transcended? Ego, the false sense of self.
Your Self is the prize, but not yourself personally.
Actually, yourself personally is the cost.
To transcend even this game, go straight to Enquiries.
They will point you directly to Dr. Who
and he will accompany you through the door: Who am 'I'?
~ Mooji
Zampano
22nd May 2014, 08:33
Hey there party people!
3 days ago I had a One to One Satsang with an Awakened Person here in Austria.
His name is "Aktu": AKTU - the silent View of Eternity
The name AKTU comes from a blessing in India 2001 and means "Shining Light"!
"Your eye contact with humans will act like a laser and bring the inner, absolute truth into consciousness" were the words of the blessing master.
He comes from Ramana Maharshi`s and Nisargadatta Maharaj self enquiry school (and a little Zen Buddhism) and went through different stages of spiritual development. The state "he" is in now is, what he described "the infinite void" or "The Self" and its nature is Being-Consciousness-Bliss or Satcitananda. At that point, there is no person anymore, no individual self and "your" remain in the Self, no time-everything is one big NOW.
Not only his eye-contact, even being in the presence of Aktu was like...a switch was turned on and I was in this infinite void as well, full of bliss. Since december last year or so
I practise also the method of self enquiry and it led me also to this state, the Ego returned to the Self and all there was, was a big emptiness, yet fully vibrant and alive. But only temporary, for like a few hours or a half day. I had some questions about self enquiry and he patiently answered all of them, choosing exactly the right words for me to understand.
greybeard
22nd May 2014, 11:59
Very happy for you Zampano.
An amazing experience.
I think the sharing of such moments are an encouragement for us all
Chris
greybeard
22nd May 2014, 12:03
Solar Cycle News; DNA, Magnetic Fields and Biological Information Transfer
The Global Coherence Initiative’s worldwide community continues to grow. We now have more than 58,000 members from 154 countries.
The Recent Flip of Solar Poles’ Recent Flip
Sometime around the end of 2013, the sun’s north and south magnetic poles completed a flip. This reversal of the sun’s magnetic field occurs about every 11 years, at the peak/midway point of a solar cycle.
Despite the current solar cycle now having begun its wane, the first few months of 2014 saw the unleashing of several large solar flares. The biggest was an X5-class flare on Feb. 24. X-class solar flares are classified as the most powerful flares; a video from NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory shows the explosion:
solar flare
You can watch the YouTube video of solar flare by clicking the link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jukJsH5L-Ss.
Effects of Solar and Geomagnetic Activity on Humans
As we have reported in previous commentaries, solar and geomagnetic activity can affect human health and behavior, including social behavior and unrest around the world. There is strong and convincing evidence supporting this.
For example, we witnessed an increase in social unrest, revolutions, insurrections and uprisings during the upswing of the current solar cycle. The most prominent example is the Arab Spring, which started in December 2010. By December 2013, rulers had been forced from power in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Yemen. Civil uprisings erupted in Bahrain and Syria, and there were major protests in Algeria, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco and Sudan.
NASA has speculated that the sun reached its peak around the end of 2013 and the downswing of the cycle is now under way. As observed by Russian scientist Alexander Chizhevsky, also known as A.L. Tchijevsky, most of a solar cycle’s effect on human health and behavior occurs within about five years of the cycle’s peak. His observation appears to be consistent with some current events in the world.
Notable among these are recent events in Ukraine and Venezuela: Tensions between Ukraine and Russia boiled over in November 2013, culminating with violent clashes in the streets, the president’s ouster and finally the Russian annexation of Crimea. In Venezuela, violent demonstrations began on Feb. 4 and rocked Venezuela for weeks.
Further indications of the turmoil that can occur around a solar cycle’s peak may be extreme weather events of 2013 and early 2014: Intense drought persisted in California and other U.S. states, while record snowfall was recorded in the central and northeastern states; there were record highs in Australia, extreme drought in New Zealand and exceptional rain in Spain and China.
With continued social unrest in so many areas of the world and abnormal weather patterns around the planet, the question arises: Do humans have any input in or control over what is happening?
GCI hypothesizes that geomagnetic and solar activity not only affect human health and behavior, but also that Earth’s magnetic field is a carrier of biologically relevant information connecting all living systems. GCI also hypothesizes that every individual affects the global information field.
Information Transfer Via Electromagnetic Signals
HeartMath’s research shows that animals and the nervous systems of people in close proximity can detect the heart’s electromagnetic field and that a bioelectromagnetic field such as that radiated by the human heart and brain can affect other individuals and the global information field environment.
Research conducted in our laboratory has confirmed the hypothesis that when an individual is in a state of heart coherence, the heart radiates a more coherent electromagnetic signal into the environment. Additionally, when we are in a coherent state we are more sensitive to detecting the information in the fields radiated by others.
Recent scientific studies involving DNA, water, the environment and magnetic fields, lend support to the hypothesis that magnetic fields can carry biologically relevant information. The authors of a 2011 study conducted by Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier et al., say DNA in their experiments teleported itself to distant cells through electromagnetic signals. Furthermore, they indicated that this information could instruct the re-creation of DNA when the basic constituents of DNA are present and coupled with extremely low electromagnetic frequency fields.
Such low electromagnetic frequency fields, ones that are able to stimulate DNA information transfer, could come from sources such as Schuman resonances, which occur naturally in the earth’s electromagnetic field spectrum, starting at 7.83 hertz. Thus, some scientists surmise, solar and geomagnetic activity could affect human health and behavior – down to the level of the DNA.
If DNA signaling can be stimulated by the Schuman resonances and brain and heart frequencies overlap with those frequencies, it raises interesting questions about how we all are interconnected with each other through solar and geomagnetic frequencies.
Other scientific research has explored the nature and interaction of ecosystems, water molecules and electromagnetic fields.
In Conclusion and Looking Ahead
It remains uncertain when humans finally will move away from the current global unrest and instability to a more stable and peaceful planet. There clearly is an urgency, however, among millions of people to discard old structures that do not serve all sentient beings and the planetary environment. We are in the midst of a paradigm shift in consciousness and on the threshold of a new era of personal and global harmony.
Solar activity not only has been correlated with social unrest, destructive climatic conditions and other adverse events, but also with periods of great human achievement, including in architecture, arts and science and positive social change.
We can learn from past mistakes and consciously choose to harness such energetic influences for human flourishing and advancement and humanitarian efforts. The Global Coherence Initiative employs multiple strategies for increasing personal, social and global coherence. Through GCI’s internet-based global network, a rich array of people around the world are connecting daily to radiate heart consciousness around the planet to shift global consciousness toward a more harmonious and peaceful future.
It is with gratitude and appreciation that all of us at GCI thank you for your continued support as together we seek to increase global coherence.
Annette Deyhle, Ph.D., and the GCI research team
http://www.glcoherence.org/templates/gcp/email/e-broadcast/commentaries/2014/may/commentaries-online.php
What is the ego-mind’s fear of awakening?
It is: Who wants a relationship with Miss Nobody? Who will employ Mr. No-Mind? What kind of future is there for one who is desireless?
But I am reminding you that all these are the ego's taboos, imaginings and attempts to distract you from your ever perfect nature.
In truth, your awakened life will be magnificent, harmonious, joyous and complete.
~ Mooji
The value of life will be determined by the value you place upon yourself which, in turn, depends on what or who you believe you are.
Paradoxically, when you discover yourself to be beyond name, form and conditioning, life sparkles, from the inside, like a celestial diamond.
~ Mooji
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