Enlightenment: The Ego, what is it? How to transcend it.

[greybeard]

BE STILL AND STOP THE WORLD - PERFECT BRILLIANT STILLNESS PART FIVE - audiobook - lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZW7uRXDoDI&t=2245s

I get a lot from this audiobook -- no nonsense - pure non-duality
Chris

[greybeard]

NEVER FORGET THE “I” -ABIDE ALONE INSIDE, WHILE OUTSIDE PLAY IN THE LILLA - The Truth Is - Papaji


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_TT66xMQM4

[Delight]

Did anyone see the series Samadhi?



AwakenTheWorldFilm
382K subscribers
Originally this film was going to be a part of Samadhi Part 3, but it grew into its own separate creation. It explores something very important that is seldom spoken of in some spiritual traditions (the topic is almost taboo). It is based around insights that came during a "peak meditation experience" when I encountered beings that identified themselves as "the Seraphim". Yes, the Seraphim are considered to be "angels", but for me were nothing like the humans with wings depicted in the Bible, but a field of conscious energy which has the singular purpose of helping our soul to complete its evolutionary journey. In this film I report on the experience and give some insights that came to me. Such phenomena may sometimes be dismissed or negated due to preconceptions or biases within the limited egoic self, or on the flip side they may be given too much emphasis and become entrapments for the ego as it creates an identity around them. The film explores the relationship between the dimensions of being and becoming as the self structure grows and evolves, and the apparent paradoxes of realizing Samadhi at increasingly more subtle levels of the developmental spiral.

Realizing Samadhi is only the first step in an unfathomable unfolding journey to expand the inner lotus into higher worlds; an enlightenment process which is a development within the levels of self structure and soul. Awakening is waking up to the unchanging dimension of absolute "being", pure consciousness, while enlightenment is about the ongoing dance of evolution and involution within the manifested world, the endless cycle of "becoming". The human game allows the possibility of creating an expanded and purified vessel to interface with divine consciousness, or higher "impersonal" levels of consciousness. When we sacrifice the egoic wants to allow this divine connection to unfold, we become part of an expanded level of existence and part of a higher "plan".

Through imitation of the Seraphim, or by matching their vibration, humans can have the same unmediated union with god. We are meant to imitate them, learn from their example, merge with their light, but not to worship them. Nor can we invoke their presence or try to summon them from the lower mind. We merge with them by becoming like them, by matching their resonance as we evolve on the spiritual path.

This release includes the full "Metatron's Vision" which is a related sound and visual journey (or you could call it a "transverberation") created by Daniel Schmidt and David Donnelly (the Fractalverse). “Metatron’s Vision” is designed to be listened to with headphones because the stereo effects create a swirling of energy that is difficult to perceive with speakers. Choose a time and place where you are not going to be interrupted. There are no particular instructions for the experience itself. Just see if you can sit still and go through the entire journey without generating a thought, staying present and attentive to the whole experience.

Please note, the purpose of the audio-visual component is not to necessarily make you feel warm and fuzzy, peaceful or relaxed, although those things may occur. The purpose is to help you to evolve beyond your egoic preferences and attachments to experience new dimensions of yourself. For many people the experience will bring up resistance. Some forms of inner resistance (hindrances) are 1) thinking, 2) unpleasant sensations or emotions 3) discomfort within the body 4) sleepines or dullness 5) attachment to pleasant sensations 6) expecting or wanting something in particular to happen. If you let go of all thoughts and sensations, judging nothing as good or bad, but simply observing, you may be able to observe the sound swirling energy around inside of you. Just observe, seeking nothing, resisting nothing. The experience may feel completely different depending on what is going on inside of you at any given time.

A version without the preceeding narration is available here: https://youtu.be/uNS2t7VvMMo​


-mfS7V5d_AE

[Wind]

Be like the mighty oak.
When the storms of the mind come,
remain grounded in the stillness of your being.
Like the oak, you offer shelter from
the heat of the sun and from the rain.
You give a home to countless beings
inside your heart.
The oak stands firmly in its humble glory.
Likewise, be grounded in the immensity of the Self.

~ Mooji

https://scontent-hel3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/155217184_287182919433448_6352470214357322480_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=_95zvGrUP14AX8WzSIO&_nc_ht=scontent-hel3-1.xx&oh=f0484a1dbb5abdd17b99717187907dae&oe=60615CE1

[greybeard]

Did anyone see the series Samadhi?



AwakenTheWorldFilm
382K subscribers
Originally this film was going to be a part of Samadhi Part 3, but it grew into its own separate creation. It explores something very important that is seldom spoken of in some spiritual traditions (the topic is almost taboo). It is based around insights that came during a "peak meditation experience" when I encountered beings that identified themselves as "the Seraphim". Yes, the Seraphim are considered to be "angels", but for me were nothing like the humans with wings depicted in the Bible, but a field of conscious energy which has the singular purpose of helping our soul to complete its evolutionary journey. In this film I report on the experience and give some insights that came to me. Such phenomena may sometimes be dismissed or negated due to preconceptions or biases within the limited egoic self, or on the flip side they may be given too much emphasis and become entrapments for the ego as it creates an identity around them. The film explores the relationship between the dimensions of being and becoming as the self structure grows and evolves, and the apparent paradoxes of realizing Samadhi at increasingly more subtle levels of the developmental spiral.

Realizing Samadhi is only the first step in an unfathomable unfolding journey to expand the inner lotus into higher worlds; an enlightenment process which is a development within the levels of self structure and soul. Awakening is waking up to the unchanging dimension of absolute "being", pure consciousness, while enlightenment is about the ongoing dance of evolution and involution within the manifested world, the endless cycle of "becoming". The human game allows the possibility of creating an expanded and purified vessel to interface with divine consciousness, or higher "impersonal" levels of consciousness. When we sacrifice the egoic wants to allow this divine connection to unfold, we become part of an expanded level of existence and part of a higher "plan".

Through imitation of the Seraphim, or by matching their vibration, humans can have the same unmediated union with god. We are meant to imitate them, learn from their example, merge with their light, but not to worship them. Nor can we invoke their presence or try to summon them from the lower mind. We merge with them by becoming like them, by matching their resonance as we evolve on the spiritual path.

This release includes the full "Metatron's Vision" which is a related sound and visual journey (or you could call it a "transverberation") created by Daniel Schmidt and David Donnelly (the Fractalverse). “Metatron’s Vision” is designed to be listened to with headphones because the stereo effects create a swirling of energy that is difficult to perceive with speakers. Choose a time and place where you are not going to be interrupted. There are no particular instructions for the experience itself. Just see if you can sit still and go through the entire journey without generating a thought, staying present and attentive to the whole experience.

Please note, the purpose of the audio-visual component is not to necessarily make you feel warm and fuzzy, peaceful or relaxed, although those things may occur. The purpose is to help you to evolve beyond your egoic preferences and attachments to experience new dimensions of yourself. For many people the experience will bring up resistance. Some forms of inner resistance (hindrances) are 1) thinking, 2) unpleasant sensations or emotions 3) discomfort within the body 4) sleepines or dullness 5) attachment to pleasant sensations 6) expecting or wanting something in particular to happen. If you let go of all thoughts and sensations, judging nothing as good or bad, but simply observing, you may be able to observe the sound swirling energy around inside of you. Just observe, seeking nothing, resisting nothing. The experience may feel completely different depending on what is going on inside of you at any given time.

A version without the preceeding narration is available here: https://youtu.be/uNS2t7VvMMo​


-mfS7V5d_AE

Thanks for this Delight.
I needed a lift.
Im getting fed up living on my own and the restriction imposed by the current situation.
This helps to give a sense of being worthwhile as opposed to this life now being pointless.
There is no cure for old age, having been a busy, productive being, this current time seems a bit empty, lonely.
Love Chris

[greybeard]

ONE NOBLE TRUTH: LIVE AT THE CENTER WHICH IS EVERYWHERE ~ Lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D3odyAcgHY

[Mashika]

ONE NOBLE TRUTH: LIVE AT THE CENTER WHICH IS EVERYWHERE ~ Lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D3odyAcgHY

With all due respect, how does he means by "Noble" truth?

He's talking about 'Source'?

It seems a bit redundant to me, since just the actual mention of "Noble" as in "The four noble truths" specifies the "source" as the person who originates the perception or "understanding" of the "truth"

So by saying "LIVE AT THE CENTER WHICH IS EVERYWHERE" it becomes redundant just as he mentions "Noble truth" because that's kind of the meaning of "Noble" on the "Four noble truths" sentence

I mean to say "the person is the one who gives the status of truth" to those words, and only "noble" persons (meaning the ones that have achieved the understanding) are the ones able to see and interpret correctly? So "Four noble truths" are "Four things that 'noble' persons understand' and by 'Noble" it means those who were enlightened at some point, not what "Noble" means usually as in "pure blood" or any of that stuff

I don't fully get him, i'm not sure if i follow correctly, but he seems to be acting within Samudaya, but please listen for a bit.. Here's why:

If a person wants to 'become' closer to nature, or find a way to 'connect' to it, then they don't understand that we are already there, right from being born.. We don't need to find roads to 'reach' a connection to nature, we already have. And we are not external to it, at all, ever, every single moment alive, All of us are nature, so how can a person even think of 'reaching' or 'connecting'? It doesn't make much sense, unless they don't understand reality, then it means they have misplaced 'nobility' in a wasteful land of trying to find purpose of living, instead of letting life go ahead full on

Life doesn't need to be found or understood, it just happens, attempting to explain it so that it fits our own views or examinations is not the way to go around living

I'm finding it very hard to explain what i think (know or understand), it's going to become a "me me me" situation so better to stop now i guess

I know he means well, but it does seem that he's still on Samudaya road, and its hard to figure out how to explain this without writing a dumb book that just repeats forever tired concepts i can't really express well on my own, there's way too much writing about it already, we don't need a copy cat :)

ETA: I'm sorry if i sound argumentative or very much aggressive, assertive or any other similar approach, i'm just talking from my own understanding, please feel free to tell me i'm wrong and why, i just want to express myself

ETA #2:

A thing to wonder about: As long as someone considers "Source" or "nature" or anything related, as an external entity that you must connect or reach or somehow communicate with. Then where is that person floating around?

:(:flower:

[greybeard]

Welcome Mashika.
Yes riddles in the video - smiling.
The thread though primally non-duality accepts all levels and spiritual concepts.
Noble truth -- he seems to mean --the One that is the totality, all of it.
Some spiritual teachers meet people where they stand before gently leading them to One without a second, Advaita.
Others like Nasargadata dont give an inch. I am that -- no room for manoeuvre.
People get what they are ready for -- all words are concepts -- at best pointers to the Ultimate.
Chris

[Mashika]

Welcome Mashika.
Yes riddles in the video - smiling.
The thread though primally non-duality accepts all levels and spiritual concepts.
Noble truth -- he seems to mean --the One that is the totality, all of it.
Some spiritual teachers meet people where they stand before gently leading them to One without a second, Advaita.
Others like Nasargadata dont give an inch. I am that -- no room for manoeuvre.
People get what they are ready for -- all words are concepts -- at best pointers to the Ultimate.
Chris

He doesn't seem to accept himself...

How can it feel, that wrong?

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Noble truth -- he seems to mean --the One that is the totality, all of it.

That's why i said it's redundant, all of it, it's already there, it was already there, right from the beginning. The "road" is very short, if you know what steps are to take, and if you don't, you should know not to say "i know", but yet look for the answers still, isn't it that way?

[greybeard]

Yes all roads lead away.
The pathless path gets narrower and narrower till it gets very simple.
Only "God" is.
No subject no object.
No birth no death -- just appearances in consciousness in one eternal moment -- no past no future in reality.
However that is my current belief not my current perception.
Intellectually I get it but thats a concept -- not ultimate reality,
It is as it is.
Chris

[greybeard]

PERFECT BRILLIANT STILLNESS - A BOW TO NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ - david carse audiobook - lomakayu

Bear in mind that Lomakayu is the author of this audio book and also features in the video above.
He has done audios of Nasargadatta ans Ramana books.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOmOuD_13UE&t=2506s

[Mashika]

Welcome Mashika.
Yes riddles in the video - smiling.
The thread though primally non-duality accepts all levels and spiritual concepts.
Noble truth -- he seems to mean --the One that is the totality, all of it.
Some spiritual teachers meet people where they stand before gently leading them to One without a second, Advaita.
Others like Nasargadata dont give an inch. I am that -- no room for manoeuvre.
People get what they are ready for -- all words are concepts -- at best pointers to the Ultimate.
Chris

It's just that it confused me how he speaks about the "Four noble truths" and this "Noble truth" as if the truths themselves were "noble" and not as it's meant to be understood (That these are the truths noble people can understand), maybe i need to go rewatch a lot of stuff to understand this view, because it's conflicting with my own culture and understanding, i think i have a different upraising or upbringing?

Some things i have seen different from my own experience

- Pain should not be avoided, it just has to happen, but through spiritual strength all levels of pain can be handled. Running away from the pain shows a weak, unprepared soul that needs to let go of personal fears and ego

- Enlightenment means being able to 'see' the world for what it is, the reality of it all, not a good vs bad or light vs dark approach (Being enlightened doesn't mean people are all wisdom and kind, it means you can see reality by its own nature, and then you choose what to do with this capability, most people will do kindness, but it also means you understand why bad things happen and why it has to happen sometimes, and you accept it as it is)

- If everything in your life is full happiness and no problems and just 'light', then you are doing something wrong and getting farther away from the truth and reality, and into darkness (as in ignorance of reality and losing the connection to your own soul and nature)

- We are source, we are the one and everything comes through us, it's not a place to reach but instead is how we find in ourselves what has already been there all the time, but hidden away, it's still us, we just need to remember. This is why i did not understood before why people kept saying "the path" or "trying to reach enlightenment" when i first learned enough English to communicate with other English speaking people. To me it did not made sense how can people see 'God' or 'Source' as an external entity that has to be reached for, or how they think there is a road ahead?

Someone i respect a lot said this to me, long ago: "The path to enlightenment is a zero step trip. Once this realization comes into one's own mind, the trip is complete"

It took me more than 10 years to understand what he was saying, and yet i'm still not able to 'see' it the way it has to be seen. Every time i 'think' i got it, it wears off and i start from scratch :)

Around 10 years or so ago, i went to Japan for a bit, i wanted to live there, and once i got there, i was encouraged to join a Buddhist group for teenagers, most of the people there were foreigners like me, and it was a bit hard to deal with that because of differences in cultures, but also was great at first, at least when learning. Once i was more accepted and made a few friends i was invited to other reunions outside the classes we had, and that's when i completely got disappointed, because on school we all were following the same 'path', but outside, on their own, most of the people i met were trying to outclass everyone else, it was in such a way like "if you don't have the right old Zen master quote at hand for every single occasion, then you are a failure" and things like "How many books have you read? And the names of the authors" and if you did not had many of did not remember, also you were a failure, it was a total ego trip.

My upbringing on Zen was more about:

"Don't learn to quote old masters, it will trap you forever into their own thinking. Instead, read what they said and then find in your own life the experiences the old master was talking about, otherwise you did not learned anything, you are just memorizing words. You are not the master, you are not living his life.

If you can't explain, in your own words, and from your own reality, the same concept a master was talking about, then you have not understood anything"

To me, it seemed that everyone was in a hurry to memorize all books and smart/cool quotes so as to impress with fake 'knowledge/wisdom', even if they would never be able to write their own koans, or find them in their own experiences, for example. And that was a terrible experience, so i just gave up :(

Thank you for all the great information and giant effort you have put on this thread <3

-

Masha

[Mashika]

ONE NOBLE TRUTH: LIVE AT THE CENTER WHICH IS EVERYWHERE ~ Lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D3odyAcgHY

I was wrong :)

After watching it again, with the correct mindset, i can see it now, i misinterpreted some of the things he said

[greybeard]

Glad you had another look Mashika.
All seems complex yet it is just a question of uncovering Neity Neity (Not this- not this) to reveal that which has been there all the time.
Self realization !!
Nasargadatta was good at demolishing ego.
He would ask new visitors what they knew about spirituality.
Most were very knowledgeable --they would go into long talk about what they had found on their path.
Regardless of what they said he would respond with "Thats not it"
All ideas, thoughts etc are concepts and not it.
That which can not be spoken of is That. Beyond words and description.
Love Chris

[greybeard]

THE TRUE LISTENER WITHIN IS GOD-LIKE, ALWAYS ALERT - Nisargadatta Maharaj - Audiobook - lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKE3vk9vmYI

[greybeard]

Stephen Wolinsky-waking up from trance part 2

Stephen has a unique way of talking about spirituality and is a devoted follower of the teaching of Nasargadatta.
I like his style -- but not for everyone
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_T1ZpL-5bc

[Lunesoleil]

- Nisargadatta Maharaj - Audiobook -

thank you for the discovery, I did not know this Hindu master
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"You are not what you think you are - Find what you are - Observe the meaning of" I am ", discover your true Self ..." "I did what my Master told me to do . All the time I saved I spent it watching myself in silence. It brought about a rapid and profound change in me. It didn't take me more than three years to realize my true nature. "
This collection brings together more than a hundred interviews with many people who came to consult it to resolve their religious, psychological or simply emotional problems.


His English version must certainly have existed from his book "I am"

[Zirconian]

Apologies if this has been posted before.

I was just watching this and was so deeply moved and compelled to share.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chiabOAsSQ4

She was a pivotal part of the consecration of the Dhyanalinga. She was Sadhguru's wife and a part of everything Sadhguru did. Today is the birthday of Vijayakumari, fondly known as Vijji by those who knew her. This video is an offering on Vijji's Jayanthi.

#Sadhguru​
Yogi, mystic and visionary, Sadhguru is a spiritual master with a difference. An arresting blend of profundity and pragmatism, his life and work serves as a reminder that yoga is a contemporary science, vitally relevant to our times.

[greybeard]

THE FEELING 'I AM' IS THE GURU WITHIN YOUR OWN HEART - NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ - AUDIOBOOK - lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poW0yDvZN8Q

[Zirconian]

A comforting message for these times....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx4j5shQkL4

Mahavataar Babaji's message for True Seekers

"This profound message was shared by our Divine Friend Dadashreeji, as passed on to Him from Babaji".

[greybeard]

LIBERATION IS TO BE FREE OF CONCEPTS - NISARGADATA MAHARAJ -lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmLyCGuruDM

[Lunesoleil]

Maharishi Mahesh 🙏
English /French
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Here is the translation of a program broadcast in 2007, on American television, on the History Channel. The Consciousness of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, whose human incarnation left Earth in February 2008, continues, more than ever (especially through the movement of Transcendental Meditation) to work on the project of spiritual regeneration of humanity started there is over half a century Transcendental Meditation (MT) is an ancestral meditation technique derived from yoga. It shines with its simplicity and efficiency.

[Trisher]

An absolutely beautiful mantra that brings in stillness, peace and love :heart:

Y0XhhKbnVUY

[greybeard]

I first read about Babaji --the deathless saint in Autobiography of a Yogi by Yogananda.
I have his picture on my wall.
He had a profound effect on all who took the time to study his teaching --not that there is much that can be found.
Thanks Trisher

[greybeard]

Introduction to Inner Engineering Completion Online
This will be live soon


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yxhfgvjvEw

Join us live for a Free introduction To Inner Engineering Completion Online session

Did you know that Shambhavi Mahamudra Kriya, a powerful 21-minute practice, is now offered through an online platform?

Facilitated by an Inner Engineering instructor, this free webinar offers detailed information about the program, the practice offered, its benefits, and an opportunity to have your questions answered. The webinar will address commonly asked questions such as:
- What are the benefits of the program?
- Who should attend the program?
- What is the difference between this program and Inner Engineering Online?

To know more, join LIVE at 12:00PM CDT.

Sadhguru teaching --Chris

[greybeard]

I AM THAT - Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj - Audiobook - Talks 91 - 101 ~ lomakayu

These are the final chapters of I AM THAT. I realize that some choose to listen through YouTube rather than download the audiobook.
The complete talks of I AM THAT by Nisargadatta Maharaj (1-101), Part One, Part Two and now Part Three are available as an audiobook mb4 download from this web page: https://www.medicineofone.com/sri-nis...
​.
Also I have been working on The Final Talks of Nisargadatta Maharaj, Consciousness And The absolute, and will have an upload very shortly.
Thanks again for your support Clay Lomakayu




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgJ1SCMj8YQ&t=14s

[Wind]

8vMEoPgg-PE

[greybeard]

Gayatri Mantra (108 repeticiones)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ovDIFSOaE

[greybeard]

Mahavatar Babaji: Himalayan yogi who is living from over 2000 years and Still Alive


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkIV1-_SvfI

[greybeard]

Indian concept of Nothingness vs Modern Science


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcw6BCmPh6o


In the Indian culture it's been always said, that everything has emerged out of nothing and will ultimately goes back to nothing. Vedas declare that "Nothingness" is the source of all knowledge. The planets, stars, galaxies and everything in the universe has come out of "Brahman", which has no shape, no colour, which is invisible and without any qualities.
What that mean is, the phone or the computer in which you are watching this video, the couch on which you are sitting, the food that you eat, the house that you live in, the earth upon which you walk, everything is nothing. You , yourself are nothing.

Such a rediculous concept! How can something be nothing? How stupid?
The theory of "Nothingness" is definetly not dearer to the logical mind. In this video we will try to bring light on this seemingly rediculous concept of "Nothingness', from the percpective of science.

Concept & Idea: Vinayak AG
Research: Vinayak AG
Sound & Video: Vinayak AG
Voice: Shripal Jain

[greybeard]

Sri Mahavatar Babaji burns the Karmas | A Miracle Indeed | Dr. Madhushree’s inspiring experience


Dr. Madhushree, has been a Sushumna Kriya Yoga practitioner since 15yrs. As one would expect, Dr. Madhushree has a plethora of experiences during meditation and many of her experiences serve as a message for all of us!

In this interview, Dr.Madhushree shares with us an inspiring experience with Sri Mahavatar Babaji, during the 2009 GuruPournami event which was held in Coutrallam.

It is evident from Dr. Madhushree’s experience that The Great Kriya Yoga Master - SRI MAHAVTAR BABAJI had chosen her to explain to the world how Sushumna Kriya Yoga miraculously burns the Absolute Karmas(which is NOT possible otherwise) of a Sushumna Kriya Yogi. The possibility of burning out our Absolute Karmas is indeed a great boon, an immense blessing bestowed upon all Sushumna Kriya Yogis! And for this, we all ought to be extremely grateful to our Gurus!

**********************************

Sushumna Kriya Yoga is a modernized technique which is adapted and designed for current times from very ancient and powerful Kriya Yoga that provides Holistic health, which includes Physical health, Mental health, Emotional health, and spiritual well-being.

Free Sushumna Kriya Yoga Meditation
http://divyababajikriyayoga.org/sushu...
​
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqdYj...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I7h9UywhY8

[Wind]

True spirituality is without pride.
It neither judges nor dismisses
the diverse expressions of life.
In fact, it brings you back
into the true life of peace,
wisdom, joy and harmony.

~ Mooji

[greybeard]

Mahavatar Babaji - The Definitive Documentary of Babaji - An Immortal Master


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhOhgEeMAcg

[greybeard]

Dr. Eben Alexander Discusses NDE & Consciousness


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4J5QYwVU0E

Dr. Eben Alexander's NDE completely violated everything he knew about brain, mind and consciousness, and drove him to question the most fundamental assumptions of science and consciousness, leading to a complete flip from his former worldview.

🔔 Be sure to click the bell to turn on notifications to see future videos.

In 2008, Dr. Eben Alexander’s brain was severely damaged by a devastating case of bacterial meningitis, and he lapsed into a week-long coma. It was almost certainly a death sentence, but Dr. Alexander miraculously survived – and brought back with him an astounding story (told in his best-seller "Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon’s Journey into the Afterlife").

During seven days in coma, he was plunged into the deepest realms of consciousness, and came to understand profound truths about the universe we inhabit. What he learned completely violated everything he ever knew about brain, mind and consciousness, and drove him to question some of the most fundamental assumptions of conventional science, leading to a complete flip from his former worldview.

About Dr. Eben Alexander
A graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Dr. Alexander received his medical degree from Duke University School of Medicine in 1980. He taught neurosurgery at Harvard Medical School in Boston for fifteen years and has performed over 4,000 neurosurgical operations. During his academic career he authored or co-authored over 150 chapters and papers in peer reviewed journals, authored or edited five books on radiosurgery and neurosurgery, and made over 230 presentations at conferences and medical centers around the world. Dr. Eben Alexander spent over 25 years as an academic neurosurgeon, including 15 years at the Brigham & Women’s Hospital, the Children’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School in Boston. He thought he had a very good idea of how the brain generates consciousness, mind and spirit... until he had a near-death experience.

[greybeard]

Atheist Neurologist Transformed by Near Death Experience (NDE)- (Unintentional ASMR)

Former atheist and materialist, Dr. Bettina Peyton shares her transformational near-death experience and offers valuable insights.

🔔 Be sure to click the bell to turn on notifications to see future videos.

This IANDS video is an excerpt from the full video, "Do Near Death Experiences Transform Scientist' Lives? This excellent extended video features Marjorie Woollacott, PhD, a neuroscience researcher, professor, and author of the "Infinite Awareness: The Awakening of a Scientific Mind". (Source: 2018 IANDS Conference)




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IuJKabyx_g

[greybeard]

Eckhart Tolle Mar 2021 FULL Royal Albert Hall, London


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiG_q2fBhhQ

[greybeard]

Mooji - What is REAL ? - Escape the WHEELS of SAMSARA - Guided Meditation - Background Music


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xP5tlz9gYQ

[greybeard]

God in Vedanta - Pravrajika Divyanandaprana



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ky7fpzz1I

[greybeard]

DEEP LISTENING IN THE CIRCLE OF THE SELF -THE JOURNEY BACK HOME - Shamanic Nondualism - lomakayu



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VU5XvELFug

[Wind]

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[Wind]

Those who discover the reality
of their inmost being
enjoy lasting peace,
love and wisdom.
These are the fruits
of authentic self discovery.

~ Mooji

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[greybeard]

IT IS COURAGEOUS TO REMAIN ALONE AND FACE ONE’S SELF - Nisargadatta Maharaj - Audiobook - lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQoWQL7Q1A

[greybeard]

THE SCIENCE OF KRIYA YOGA -PARAMAHANSA YOGANANDA - AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI - AUDIOBOOK - LOMAKAYU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyWRBRqH8wg

[Wind]

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[Zirconian]

Feeling these words.
Words for now...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSRoFfBAzr4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azZ8eUpZB9w

About Sri Paramahansa Yogananda:
Paramahansa Yogananda (1893–1952) is considered one of the pre-eminent spiritual figures of modern times.He was an Indian yogi and guru who introduced millions of westerners to the teachings of meditation and Kriya Yoga through his book, 'Autobiography of a Yogi'. :heart:

[greybeard]

Karma, Destiny And Free Will - Ramana Maharshi - Audiobook - lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P34TFZItBjA

[Wind]

The Parable of the Sower and the Seed — As told by Mooji

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[Lunesoleil]

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❤ 🧡 💛 💚 💙 💖 💜

[Lunesoleil]

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What is the spiritual experience ?, Connect to the invisible part of ourselves ?, To accumulate spiritual knowledge in a bottomless pit? To experience the material renunciation which by compensation fills our consciousness of teaching in all the little things of life ...

[greybeard]

There is only now - Papaji guided meditation


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZRj8tUZ39c

[greybeard]

Swami Sarvapriyananda on Satyagraha




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhXBy7c8H4w

[Wind]

Choosing our path

"In every human difficulty there are two ways open to us. The common way is familiar enough: it consists in reacting egoistically and emotionally with self-centered complaint, irritability, fear, anger, despair, and so on.

"The uncommon way is taken by a spiritually minded few: it consists in making something good out of something bad, in reacting selflessly, calmly, constructively, and hopefully. This is the way of practical philosophy, this attempt to transform what outwardly seems so harmful into what inwardly at least must be markedly beneficent. It is a magical work. But it can only be done by deep thought, self-denial, and love.

"If the difficulty is regarded as both a chance to show what we can do to develop latent resources as well as a test of what we have already developed, it can be made to help us. Even if we do not succeed in changing an unfavourable environment for the better, such an approach would to some extent change ourselves for the better. We must accept, with all its tremendous implications for our past, present, and future, that we are ultimately responsible for the conditions which stamp our life. Such acceptance may help to shatter our egoism and that, even though it is painful, will be all to the good. Out of its challenge can come the most blessed change in ourselves."

~ Paul Brunton

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[greybeard]

THE NATURE OF GOD - RAMANA MAHARSHI- Audiobook - spoken by lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4XHbbJg1XY

[Wind]

What is there when there is nothing to be swept away?
That which is here and cannot be swept away,
that is your 'I am' vibration Self.
Stay with this vibration of presence,
not merely the words 'I am' but the intuitive subjective
sense of 'I am', 'I am here'.
It is not an object. It is formless subjectivity.
Be one with that.

~ Mooji

[greybeard]

Ancient Hindu Texts Have Been Translated, They Reveal Profound Messages For EVERYONE

This is the most profound, true to the original, translation of the Hindu pantheon you will ever hear. Full of amazing insights and wisdom from the ancient #Hindu​ texts. #Sanskrit​ by nature is a very rich language -- a word or expression can be interpreted in multiple ways and on several levels at once, here it is easily explained for starters or also anyone deeply familiar with #Vedic​ knowledge.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQJOr7FCtPY

[greybeard]

Ancient Lost City of Eleven Gates | Sanskrit Wisdom of Vedic Sages


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6nIremVOIQ

[greybeard]

A 12 step investigation of David Godman & Ramana Maharshi



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj9vy-tdScI

[Wind]

When not being your Self becomes unbearable,
Self-discovery becomes vital.
It seems we can live in exile from our own
true nature for a while. Actually, we cannot do it.
We are only dreaming it, or believing it into existence
and so suffering our own projections.
Such exile is like saying that space has forgotten
itself and imagines itself to be the wind.
The mind is like the wind.
The Self is like space.
It is the nature of wind to blow about,
but space, being infinite, cannot move about.
Space exists whether there is wind or no wind.
But if there was no space, there could be no wind.
Judge which is the greater
and be one with that.

~ Mooji

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[greybeard]

Eben Alexander and Karen Newell - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nd2NiM9qAU

A lot about soul groups --reincarnation from about half way through
Cyclic progression -- Eben believes we are heading for a Golden Age.
I may have to repeat listen to really get the benefits from this excellent talk.
Chris

[greybeard]

Milton Erickson - My Voice Will Go With You [FULL AUDIOBOOK]

I was trained in his healing methods
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9BncVFjlgw

[Wind]

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[greybeard]

How to Find Peace in World | Swami Sarvapriyananda


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRM3_Rf_9xI

[greybeard]

Tat Tvam Asi (That Thou Art) | Swami Sarvapriyananda


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBpbYSKdQM

[NX.P]

A difference between ritual and ceremony?
Personality and individuality?
Icons and symbols...

A lecture about ancient and modern initiations, theology, and direct experience in very grounded, practical and rational terms.

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[greybeard]

BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE THE UNBELIEVABLE - LISTEN WITH THE BOTTOM OF THE FEET OF MIND -MEDICINEOFONE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLBONuPmSs

[Wind]

It is the greatest miracle that a human being,
born to face so many challenges,
can rise like a lotus flower above the water.
Growing in a muddy place
yet remaining immaculate throughout its life.
Even if the rain falls heavily and the waters rise,
the lotus will always be above the surface.
This is the nature of the spirit.

~ Mooji

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[greybeard]

Spent an enjoyable couple of hours with Hemoor, a fellow Avalonian yesterday,
Mainly conversed on spiritual experiences.
Really nice to meet a fellow "traveller" on the "path"
Chris

[greybeard]

Am I Talking to God or to Myself?


A woman describes an ongoing conversation she has with God, and asks who is talking to whom. Rupert asks if there is a distinction between talking to oneself and talking to God.

This clip has been taken from Rupert's Five Day Retreat at Home in November 2020. To watch the full video, please follow the link below.

https://non-duality.rupertspira.com/w...




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoMouvq6vsg

[greybeard]

This One Stupid Human Idea Is Destroying The Planet | Warning All Life Will Stop To Exist | Sadhguru



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFaHxDkonS8

Allopathic Medicine Doesn't Want You to Know This | Sadhguru


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_jyPezuL1k

[greybeard]

Kundalini Awakening - What Will Really Happen if Kundalini Energy is Awakened? (kundalini shakti)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zvYxw_rikQ

[greybeard]

WATCH This If You Do Not Want Vaccine For Covid-19 || MUST WATCH & UNDERSTAND || Sadhguru || MOW

The purpose of This video is to demonstrate and conceptualize specific. We Transform clips to create a creatively unique vision and giving new meaning. All the graphics used in videos are created by our team in various video editing software's like Adobe Premiere Pro & Sony Vegas and other. We've transformed the original work by adding Our own unique value such as added high-quality edits, background effects and special effects, Storyline and Commentary to create completely new, original video. These are derivative works as defined by the United States Copyright Act 17 U.S.C. § 101, and as such, may find protection from copyright claims under the doctrine of fair use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJPYJQYnySQ

[greybeard]

SHIV MANTRA MEDITATION with Shamanic Drums || Mantra Trance to Keep Negative Energies Away


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xak7uM2HpH4

[Wind]

The real is not an effect. It is not bubbly.
The real is not anything where you can say,
'Wow! This is it!'
Perhaps such phenomena are pleasant,
but they are not the Absolute.
Don't be looking for blissful states.
Though they may come,
they are as momentary
as beautiful clouds passing in the sky.
There is a bliss beyond bliss
— unfading, timeless, whole.
In this space of beingness you have crossed over
from death to life. Here, you are Home.

~ Mooji

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[Wind]

"The Heart is used in the Vedas and the scriptures to denote the place whence the notion ‘I’ springs. Does it spring only from the fleshy ball? It springs within us somewhere right in the middle of our being. The ‘I’ has no location. Everything is the Self. There is nothing but that. So the Heart must be said to be the entire body of ourselves and of the entire universe, conceived as ‘I’. But to help the practiser we have to indicate a definite part of the Universe, or of the Body. So this Heart is pointed out as the seat of the Self. But in truth we are everywhere, we are all that is, and there is nothing else."

~ Ramana Maharshi

https://luthar2.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/heart-is-reality.jpg

[Wind]

If you want to understand or grasp Truth
in the way that Buddha has,
you will have to disappear personally.
When you disappear personally,
you don’t then appear impersonally.
You remain as you are and have always been
—the unchanging and ungraspable Truth.

~ Mooji

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[Wind]

Seeing your body is not seeing yourself.
Seeing your eyes is not seeing yourself.
The Self cannot be seen because
it is not an object apart from you.
Even the act of seeing is itself seen
within the pure Awareness-Self
You inseparably are.

~ Mooji

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[Mashika]

Look at you

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[Wind]

Who's looking?

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[betoobig]

Hello everyone, it´s been a while. I want to share with you the enlightment story of my father. He is, not was, a theologist Dr. He passed last week on Tuesday. I contacted him after passing, we are in the physical or in the nonphysical, we never cease to be. SO a telepath can reach someone who isn´t a telepath but is in the nonphysical. I found him very scared, even terrified. We asked him why. He said he was expecting his judgement and punishment, that´s what he was taught as a Jesuit, it was his belief. I told him that it doesn´t work this way and that now right there there´s only unconditional love waiting for him and we invoked some help for him. Next day he was better although he said "I got some regrets and i have been told that i have to look for the lesson behind each regret and they are treating me very good" i ask him please to try to contact his innerbeing, he tried once and said he could not hear anything, i told him wait... listen to the silence... he started contact ... next day when we contacted him he was laughing hard at himself saying " soooo simple.... i had it right there all my life .... oh my..... so so simple" .... he was really flying high. The next message i got from him was this, a word he have never heard nor use before... "namaste"
May this share with you all be a tribute to my father, Juan Campo Pampliega 1933/2021, who is now , not only in a good place, but in the best possible place... finnaly free.
Thanks for reading and so much love

Chris i thought this belongs in this thread but i would respect if think other wise. Hugs

[Wind]

Mi Amado, las montañas,
los valles solitarios nemorosos,
las ínsulas extrañas,
los ríos sonorosos,
el silbo de los aires amorosos,
la noche sosegada
en par de los levantes de la aurora,
la música callada,
la soledad sonora,
la cena que recrea y enamora.

My Beloved is the mountains,
And lonely wooded valleys,
Strange islands,
And resounding rivers,
The whistling of love-stirring breezes,
The tranquil night
At the time of rising dawn,
Silent music,
Sounding solitude,
The supper that refreshes and deepens love.

"Love is the inclination, strength, and power for the soul in making its way to God, for love unites it with God.
The more degrees of love it has, the more deeply it enters into God and centers itself in him."

~ San Juan de la Cruz - St. John of the Cross

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[greybeard]

Non-Dual Awakening | Swami Sarvapriyananda


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVmWlRmOnSo

[Harmony]

:flower:
Hello everyone, it´s been a while. I want to share with you the enlightment story of my father. He is, not was, a theologist Dr. He passed last week on Tuesday. I contacted him after passing, we are in the physical or in the nonphysical, we never cease to be. SO a telepath can reach someone who isn´t a telepath but is in the nonphysical. I found him very scared, even terrified. We asked him why. He said he was expecting his judgement and punishment, that´s what he was taught as a Jesuit, it was his belief. I told him that it doesn´t work this way and that now right there there´s only unconditional love waiting for him and we invoked some help for him. Next day he was better although he said "I got some regrets and i have been told that i have to look for the lesson behind each regret and they are treating me very good" i ask him please to try to contact his innerbeing, he tried once and said he could not hear anything, i told him wait... listen to the silence... he started contact ... next day when we contacted him he was laughing hard at himself saying " soooo simple.... i had it right there all my life .... oh my..... so so simple" .... he was really flying high. The next message i got from him was this, a word he have never heard nor use before... "namaste"
May this share with you all be a tribute to my father, Juan Campo Pampliega 1933/2021, who is now , not only in a good place, but in the best possible place... finnaly free.
Thanks for reading and so much love

Chris i thought this belongs in this thread but i would respect if think other wise. Hugs

Thank you betoobig for sharing your story about your father Juan:flower:

I hope you continue to communicate with him and feel him close to you. I have had similar experiences with my Dad, usually during dream time and meditation, but very profound.:bearhug:

[greybeard]

Rick Brown ‘Trust in Krishna’ Interview by Iain McNay.


Rick was the singer in the innovative American psychedelic rock band The Misunderstood formed in the mid-1960s. They were discovered by John Ravenscoft (soon to be Peel) and with his help moved to London where they signed to Fontana Records. They were admired by many including The Move and the Pink Floyd and were considered highly influential in the then-emerging genre. They only recorded a handful of songs before being forced to disband. Rick was then conscripted into the US Army to fight in Vietnam. In the boot camp he was turned onto the Bhagavad-gita and deserted and fled to India via the UK with a false passport.

He moved into a Hindi ashram where no-one spoke English and became a monk staying for over 6 years. He begged for his food and had to deal with many serious health issues. While there he learned to speak Bengali and Hindi and read Sanskrit and Hindi. In 1979, after 12 years in exile, he returned to the US where he was granted amnesty as a conscientious objector and discharged from the Army. He now lives in Thailand where he deals in gemstones. His story is fascinating and has many phases; from potential rock star to fugitive to Hindi monk to rediscovering active life from a different vantage. It is quite a tale. 'You start off with blind faith and then circumstances causes that faith to be tested and then when the tests work out it becomes experience and then it becomes knowledge and then it is no longer blind faith'

CHECK OUT OUR NEW TRANSCRIPTS ON CONSCIOUS.TV:


https://conscious.tv/single.php?vid=6257093103001

[Wind]

"In this video, Moojibaba leads us on a powerful exploration into the true meaning of ‘I’ — from the earliest formation of our sense of identity to the dawning of our spiritual journey, triggered by these fundamental existential questions:

“What is this life and who are we in this life? — Where do we come from and where are we going?"

This guided inquiry leads us into a quintessential contemplation, to contemplate the pure and unassociated sense ‘I Am.’

“Is there a thing that gives you understanding about all things? — Understand what ‘I’ means.

Those regarded as the sages, the Buddhas and the Christs, understood the power and truth of ‘I’."

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[Wind]

Eventually the dream will collapse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzLhXesNkCI). The dreamer sees he is dreaming in a dream.

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[greybeard]

Swami Sarvapriyananda speaks on the path of devotion inspired by Swami Vivekananda's book, Bhakti Yoga, with a special emphasis on the chapter on "Triangle of Love



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPj98w0gBWs


ABOUT VEDANTA
Vedanta is one of the world’s most ancient religious philosophies and one of its broadest. Based on the Vedas, the sacred scriptures of India, Vedanta affirms the oneness of existence, the divinity of the soul, and the harmony of religions.

ABOUT US
Vedanta Society of New York is affiliated with the Ramakrishna Order of India. In fact, this is the Order's first Center started by Swami Vivekananda, in 1894. It was a historic event, for the seed of the world-wide Ramakrishna Movement was sown here in New York over a century ago. Swami Sarvapriyananda is the present Resident Minister and Spiritual Leader of the Vedanta Society of New York.

[greybeard]

David Icke | Your Time has Come – His Most Epic Video Ever



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glChKZaIiuY

[greybeard]

David Icke | Be Prepared for the Shift - A Life Changing Segment


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCFELZaTi0o


David Icke at his very best
Chris

[greybeard]

Edgar Cayce on Sensitivity, Boundaries, and The Unseen Forces



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCk21wJpWL8

[Wind]

You know you exist.
This is so natural, not even your parents
had to teach you that.
You instinctively know that you are alive
and that you are perceiving somehow.
Not even deliberately, it is just happening
—an effortless functioning.
And there is awareness of that play.
What more can be said?
The rest is entirely made up.

~ Mooji

[TomKat]

Hi friends
To put it into context.
There are two kinds of ego.
One as defined by the Medical/ Psychiatric profession.
is Healthy self esteem.
It is good to take pride in the way we do things.
When one is comfortable with oneself and what one does then fear decrease and it is easy to be in this world with all its trials and tribulations at that point there is an over lap into the second definition of ego, the spiritual one.

The ego in spiritual terms could be defined as "Edge God Out"
Every spiritual teacher without exception says that to fully know one true self the ego must be transcended.

There were some very good contributions to this thread on Avalon and I hope that the same will apply here.
Celine has said that the complete thread from Avalon will be reposted here but there are technical problems in doing this at the moment, hopefully these will be resolved.
Time being fresh insights are very welcome.
Chris
Namaste.

I've never heard of someone actually transcending their ego. I think transmuting or dissolving the ego is a better goal. Any artificial construct should be detectable as a lump or cluster in the etheric body. When you dissolve everything "not I" you end up only with "I." Which seems like the goal here.

[greybeard]

Hi friends
To put it into context.
There are two kinds of ego.
One as defined by the Medical/ Psychiatric profession.
is Healthy self esteem.
It is good to take pride in the way we do things.
When one is comfortable with oneself and what one does then fear decrease and it is easy to be in this world with all its trials and tribulations at that point there is an over lap into the second definition of ego, the spiritual one.

The ego in spiritual terms could be defined as "Edge God Out"
Every spiritual teacher without exception says that to fully know one true self the ego must be transcended.

There were some very good contributions to this thread on Avalon and I hope that the same will apply here.
Celine has said that the complete thread from Avalon will be reposted here but there are technical problems in doing this at the moment, hopefully these will be resolved.
Time being fresh insights are very welcome.
Chris
Namaste.

I've never heard of someone actually transcending their ego. I think transmuting or dissolving the ego is a better goal. Any artificial construct should be detectable as a lump or cluster in the etheric body. When you dissolve everything "not I" you end up only with "I." Which seems like the goal here.

Yes you are correct as to the goal Tomkat
Neti neti --not this not this till only I remains --process of elimination.
Thelate Dr David R Hawkins on whos books the early part of this thread was based on used the word transcend.
He did not want people demonising the ego -- hence the word transcend.
His definition of ego was "Believing the story of the me" in other words an identification process.

Thepost you quote was written many yeas ago.
The "path" gets narrower till there is no path.
The understanding now is that only "God" is --one without a second.

Chris

[greybeard]

Kundalini Yoga & Advaita Vedanta | Swami Sarvapriyananda



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKllpkA0HAM

[greybeard]

Rhonda Byrne ‘Finding The Greatest Secret’ Interview by iain McNay



https://conscious.tv/single.php?vid=6263073288001

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After reading books about manifesting abundance and the law of attraction when her life was in crisis Rhonda dramatically changed her priorities and everything changed for her. She then had the idea of making a film of what she had learnt and called it 'The Secret.' On release it was immediately a huge success and that encouraged her to write a book of the same name which to date has sold over 35 million copies. She then went on a sustained spiritual search over many years to find deeper levels of truth. That took into the world of Esoteric Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, Sufism as well as studying teachers such as J. Krishnamurti and Ramana Maharishi. And then one day she found a video of an interview with David Bingham and something finally clicked, she woke up, and she knew for sure who she really was. This led to her writing her latest book, 'The Greatest Secret' where she goes into detail on what she found and the teachers who helped her the most. In this interview she talks in detail about her life and her journey and how she eventually found the greatest secret.

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[Wind]

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[greybeard]

My favourite quotes, "If you think that God does not know what you are going to do next-- think again"
"We make plans and God laughs"
Love Chris

[Wind]

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[O Donna]

Improve upon perfection?

Progress?

https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/clans/29269006/91fa3ca6b79fbbc214475d0a61b4a912a4c8e39c.gif

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https://sundayisforlovers.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/laughing-buddha-elightenment.jpg

[greybeard]

This thread is a marvellous "utility"
What more can I say
So many valuable posts/videos from so many people and enlightened teachers
Chris

[O Donna]

https://scontent-hel3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/218926812_378684513616621_5273715875378675819_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=-QThwB_NWpMAX-pprWY&_nc_ht=scontent-hel3-1.xx&oh=6027688b1b89398cd2bfef975648599b&oe=60FC8585

https://i.giphy.com/media/ftdF4ZkueWGHBYc4b5/giphy.webp

That is close to bedrock stuff, right there.

(Thanks for the share)

[Wind]

Do not hold onto any concept,
even the most beautiful concept.
Just remain empty.
This is your wellness, your true health.
You are simply here,
not waiting, neither coming nor going.
Neither in nor out.
These are simply references.
Don’t pick up any concept.
If there is any tightness in the body
or restlessness in the mind,
these are only sensations,
They are not a reading of what you are.

~ Mooji

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[Mashika]

Never mind, we don't need to discuss that

[greybeard]

(THRIVE II: This Is What It Takes) Part 5 of 6: The Unified Field and Energy


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6OLpT59kE0

[Wind]

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3e/cc/51/3ecc512a2c6fd26662de668e130a256a.jpg

[O Donna]

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Follow this seemingly out of place post....

__627t2bzJM

...and find the fit.



Here I go, breaking all the rules

* post related to the meme not the poster specifically

[Wind]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d3/3d/41/d33d413e058c6e766d891e48f3cd9a7e.jpg

[O Donna]

"Totally Immersed in Joy"

The best part is it's free.

Monopoly has nothing over totally immersed in joy.

[greybeard]

Your Two Identities | Eckhart Tolle Teachings



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRt1RIy6-fo

[greybeard]

No 'You' no 'I' only Am - A guided Meditation with Mooji


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2rxuowot88

[Mashika]

No 'You' no 'I' only Am - A guided Meditation with Mooji


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2rxuowot88

I remember a question, which i would like to ask. If you were a dot, would it be white dot, or black dot?

I'm not being a monster, or trying to, as some would say "pick a fight". I'm just curious right now due to this video :) How do you feel about it?

[greybeard]

PAPAJI - It's all Brahman and you are beyond even that.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwH-Jp2HIPE

[Wind]

A wave is ocean, and when it rises up, it is given the
name ‘wave’. When it is given this name, it is like it has an independent existence. It seems to roll along the surface, which is all water—water flowing in water— and this we call a life. Then it subsides and this is called death.

Actually nothing happened to the water. It is
just a natural movement, but because name and form are attributed to it, it appears as a separate existence, or entity. All the while it is only the play of water rising, flowing, subsiding—no story. Mind makes the story by creating an illusory identity. In true understanding, it is all one.

When the identity rises up, we celebrate it as
a birth and when it flows, we call it life. When it subsides, we call it death and grieve. But really, if you look from the perspective of the True, nothing really happened except the dreamed life of a ghost comes to an end.

~ Mooji

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[greybeard]

My prayer

"Beloved God please remove the evil from this world.
Replace it with Love.
Your will be done."

[greybeard]

There Is No Death… Life Goes On – David Icke


https://davidicke.com/2021/08/04/there-is-no-death-life-goes-on-david-icke/

[Zirconian]

Energies that work for me in these most difficult of times....

4712547125

THE SISTER OF BABAJI

(never knew he had one!)

AUM AUM AUM

SALUTATIONS TO SHRI ANNAI……..

Her name is Nagalakshmi Devi.
She is sister of Babaji.
She is embodiment of kriya yoga power.
She is embodiment of kundalini power.
She is embodiment of universal motherhood.
She is embodiment of yogic power [i.e. The power which comes through union with the GOD].
She is the great siddha [perfect master].
She is the great yogini [perfect yoga practitioner].
She is the great conqueror of death.
She is the embodiment of the Divine Nectar.
She is the follower of Shri Vidhya [science of power of supreme mother/origin of universe].
She is the embodiment of Shri Vidhya.
She is the Master of Shri Yantra Sadhana [Graphical representation of Shri Vidhya is called as Shri Yantra].
She is the meditator of Shri Yantra.
She is the knower of the secret of Shri Vidhya.
She is the giver of Shri Vidhya.
She likes to worship Holy Basil plant [Tulasi].
She likes the cluster of Holy Basil plant.
She likes to move around the Holy Basil plant [parikrama].
She lives at Gauri-Shankar peetham Aashram [shrine].
She also lives at Gupta Kashi.
She is the Hidden Yogini.
She is the Yogini who knows the secret science.
She is the giver of the secret science.
She performs tapasya [penance] inside the under-ground cave.
She has Divine powers equivalent to Shri Babaji.
She is having mastery over five elements [i.e. Ether, air, fire, water & earth].
She is master of ten Maha-Vidhyas [super sciences].
She is beyond “Kaal” [i.e. Time & Death].
She is having 8 great miraculous powers [Ashta Maha-Siddhis].
She is having glowing form.
She is having Divine form.
She is extremely beautiful.
She speaks very gently & sweetly.
She inspires Babaji also.
She is forever.
Her mind is very pure.
She is dressed in white cloths.
She is Param-Hansa [A very higher divine state of consciousness ].
She is the great liberated one.
She is having the long beautiful hair locks.
She is peaceful.
She is very motherly caring.
She is very compassionate.
She takes care of the surrendered devotee like a mother.
She fulfills desires of the devotee.
She is the giver of Divine Nectar.
She is like a wish-fulfilling Divine tree [Kalpa-vriksha].
She is giver of Divine powers & accomplishment of Yog.
She gives unlimited food to the devotees.
She gives Divine blessings to the devotees.
She gives favor to the devotees.
She shows mercy & unchain the mind & soul of devotee [from ego & desires].
She gives peace to a devotee.
She gives liberation to a devotee.
She removes sins of a devotee.
She removes sorrow of a devotee.
She removes despair of a devotee.
She removes impurities of a devotee.
She makes a devotee like her self [i.e. takes at higher spiritual level like her self].
She removes the impurities of Kali yuga [age of darkness].
She is actively interested in establishment of Satya yuga [the age of truth & knowledge].
She is actively interested in spreading of Universal love & selfless service.
She has the knowledge of the Ultimate Reality – The Supreme God.
She has the knowledge of the Supreme Power of God.
She has the powerful activated “Third Eye”.
She is embodiment of the Divine Cosmic Sound of “OM”.
She is embodiment of “Truth-Consciousness-Bliss”.
She is embodiment of “Brahma-Vidhya” [Science of Divine Transformation].
She likes Swastika-Mudra [gesture of crossed hands].
She likes to sit in Lotus posture [Padmasana].
She accomplishes all the Arthas [i.e. nessecities of a devotee].
She is the giver of wealth.
She is embodiment of the powers of all Mantras [i.e. mystic spells].
She is remover of all dualism.
She is giver of all types of Siddhies [miraculous powers].
She can give all types of Prosperity.
She can do all well.
She frees from all types of sorrow.
She pacifies all types of death [causing diseases].
She removes all types of obstacles [in the path of spiritual perfection].
She gives all types of good fortunes.
She is all-knowing one.
She has all the powers.
She can give all types of higher authorities.
She is embodiment of wisdom.
She can remove all types of diseases & worries.
She is embodiment of Sanjeevani Vidhya [Science of Restoring Life Force].
She gives support to the life of a devotee.
She removes all the sins [& purifies a devotee].
She is embodiment of all types of Divine Bliss.
She can give all types of Divine Bliss.
She can give all types of Divine protection.
She is the Divine protector of the world.
She is the embodiment of Divine light.
She is without ego.
She is like a Chintamani Ratna [a wish fulfilling gem-stone].
She is always there to help a devotee.
She is Omnipresent.
She is having a great strength.
She is embodiment of Divine Mother Goddess.
She comes quickly to help a devotee.
She travels through the Ether [Sky].
She has a very long life.
She is ever youth.
She is embodiment of Raja-Vidhya [i.e. Science of Soul-God union].
She has power of one-pointedness [i.e. Bindu-peetha].
She has achieved greatest Divine state [i.e. Maha-peetha].
She is embodiment of Divine Science [i.e. Vidhya-peetha].
She is embodiment of Ever-Blissful state [i.e. Aananda-peetha].
She is embodiment of Divine Star [i.e. Taara].
She has united the power Three eyes & have control over 3 gunas – Sattva, Rajas & Tamas.
She has merged her consciousness with the Origin of all the universes – The Supreme Mother Goddess [i.e. Aadhya Shakti].
She is the embodiment of Mother Nature.
She has supreme powers beyond description.
She remains in ever blissful state.
She can give ever blissful state to a devotee.
She can give victory [over inner & outer enemies].
She can give Divine Sight [by opening the Third Eye].
She gives the knowledge about Divinity.
She can lift the consciousness of the devotee up to the highest level of spirituality [i.e. The complete merger with the Supreme GOD – which is called as “Parama-pada”].

One of the most powerful mantras (IMHO)......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0XhhKbnVUY

[Wind]

I have been reading Autobiography of a Yogi for the first time ever, Babaji is mentioned there...

In the midst of the common, the worldly,
the mundane, is the ineffable One.
Knowing this, one lives happily
throughout all states.
This is the secret
that only the sage knows and enjoys,
and reveals to those
whose time has come to flower
into divine understanding.

~ Mooji

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[Harmony]

Energies that work for me in these most difficult of times....

4712547125

THE SISTER OF BABAJI

(never knew he had one!)




Zirconian that is a lovely meditation, thanks for sharing:flower:
Hoping you are well:bearhug:

[Wind]

Reminiscences of Ramana Maharshi – Dr. Paul Brunton (http://greatmaster.info/ramanamaharshi/bhagavanreminiscences/reminiscenceramana1-1/)

Dr. Paul Brunton (1898-1981), a British journalist, attracted by Indian mysticism first visited India in 1930. Author of eleven books, he has emphasized the value and importance of the Self within us. He is generally considered as having introduced meditation to the West. He once wrote: “Sri Ramana was a spiritual torch carried to the waiting souls in the West. I was only the unimportant ‘link-boy’, the humble carrier.” The Paul Brunton Philosophic Foundation, New York, has posthumously published his post-1952 writings (the year when his last book The Spiritual Crisis of Man was published), in 16 volumes. He was awarded a doctorate in philosophy by the Roosevelt College, USA.

During his first visit, among many saints and yogis, Brunton also met Sri Ramana. He stayed for a few weeks in an improvised shelter very close to Sri Ramana’s Ashram.The number of full-time devotees being limited at that time, Brunton had ample opportunity of observing the Maharshi at close quarters and interacting with him. He provides a dispassionate, illuminating and intimate account of the Maharshi’s divinity and its impact in his A Search in Secret India published from London in 1934. In his inimitable way he says:

There is something in this man which holds my attention as steel filings are held by a magnet. I cannot turn my gaze away from him. I become aware of a silent, resistless change, which is taking place within my mind. One by one, the questions which I prepared with such meticulous accuracy drop away. I know only that a steady river of quietness seems to be flowing near me; that a great peace is penetrating the inner reaches of my being, and that my thought-tortured brain is beginning to arrive at some rest. I perceive with sudden clarity that intellect creates its own problems and then makes itself miserable trying to solve them. This is indeed a novel concept to enter the mind of one who has hitherto placed such high value upon intellect.

I surrender myself to the steadily deepening sense of restfulness. The passage of time now provokes no irritation, because the chains of mind-made problems are being broken and thrown away. And then, little by little, a question takes the field of consciousness. Does this man, the Maharshi, emanate the perfume of spiritual peace as the flower emanates fragrance from its petals? I begin to wonder whether by some radioactivity of the soul, some unknown telepathic process, the stillness which invades the troubled water of my soul really comes from him. The peace overwhelms me.

The Maharshi turns and looks down into my face; I, in turn, gaze expectantly up at him. I become aware of a mysterious change taking place with great rapidity in my heart and mind. The old motives which have lured me on begin to desert me. The urgent desires which have sent my feet hither and thither vanish with incredible swiftness. The dislikes, misunderstandings, coldness and selfishness which have marked my dealings with many of my fellows collapse into the abyss of nothingness. An untellable peace falls upon me and I know that there is nothing further that I shall ask from life.

The Sage seems to carry something of great moment to me, yet I cannot easily determine its precise nature. It is intangible, imponderable, perhaps spiritual. Each time I think of him a peculiar sensation pierces me and causes my heart to throb with vague but lofty expectations.

I look at the Sage. He sits there on Olympian heights and watches the panorama of life as one apart. There is a mysterious property in this man which differentiates him from all others I have met.

He remains mysteriously aloof even when surrounded by his own devotees, men who have loved him and lived near him for years. Sometimes I catch myself wishing that he would be a little more human, a little more susceptible to what seems so normal to us.

Why is it that under his strange glance I invariably experience a peculiar expectancy, as though some stupendous revelation will soon be made to me? This man has freed himself from all problems, and no woe can touch him.

The Sage seems to speak not as a philosopher, not as a pandit trying to explain his own doctrine, but rather out of the depth of his own heart.

I am not religious but I can no more resist the feeling of increasing awe which begins to grip my mind than a bee can resist a flower in all its luscious bloom. The [Maharshi’s] hall is becoming pervaded with a subtle, intangible and indefinable power which affects me deeply. I feel, without doubt and without hesitation, that the centre of this mysterious power is no other than the Maharshi himself.

His eyes shine with astonishing brilliance. Strange sensation begins to arise in me. Those lustrous orbs seem to be peering into the inmost recesses of my soul. In a peculiar way, I feel aware of everything he can see in my heart. His mysterious glance penetrates my thoughts, my emotions and my desires; I am helpless before it.

At first, his disconcerting gaze troubles me; I become vaguely uneasy. I feel he has perceived pages that belong to a past, which I have forgotten. He knows it all, I am certain. I am powerless to escape; somehow, I do not want to, either.

I become aware that he is definitely linking my own mind with his, that he is provoking my heart into that state of starry calm, which he seems perpetually to enjoy. In this extraordinary peace, I find a sense of exaltation and lightness. Time seems to stand still. My heart is released from its burden of care. Never again, I feel, shall the bitterness of anger and the melancholy of unsatisfied desire afflict me. My mind is submerged in that of the Maharshi and wisdom is now at its perihelion. What is this man’s gaze but a thaumaturgic wand, which evokes a hidden world of unexpected splendour before my profane eyes?

I have sometimes asked myself why these disciples have been staying around the Sage for years with few conversations, fewer comforts and no external activities to attract them. Now I begin to understand -not by thought but by lightning like illuminations – that through all those years they have been receiving a deep and silent reward.

Hitherto, everyone in the hall has been hushed to a death-like stillness. At length, someone quietly rises and passes out. He is followed by another, and then another, until all have gone. I am alone with the Maharshi! Never before has this happened. His eyes begin to change; they narrow down to pinpoints. The effect is curiously like the ‘stopping down’ in the focus of a camera lens. There comes a tremendous increase in the intense gleam which shines between the lids, now almost closed. Suddenly, my body seems to disappear, and we are both out in space! It is a crucial moment. I hesitate – and decide to break the enchanter’s spell. Decision brings power and once again I am Backin the flesh, Backin the hall. No word passes from him to me. I collect my faculties, look at the clock, and rise quietly. The hour of departure has arrived. I bow my head in farewell and depart.

The following relates to Brunton’s second visit and stay near Sri Ramana, a few months later:

Whatever I am doing I never fail to become gradually aware of the mysterious atmosphere of the place, of the benign radiation which steadily percolates into my brain. I enjoy an ineffable tranquility merely by sitting for a while in the neighbourhood of the Maharshi. By careful observation and frequent analysis, I arrive in time at the complete certitude that reciprocal inter-influence arises whenever our presences neighbour each other. The thing is most suitable. But it is quite unmistakable. A force greater than my rationalistic mind awes me until it ends by overwhelming me.

The realisation forces itself through my wonderment that all my questions are moves in an endless game, the play of thoughts which possess no limit to their extent; that somewhere within me there is a well of certitude which can provide me all waters of truth I require; and that it will be better to cease my questioning and attempt to realise the tremendous potencies of my own spiritual nature. So I remain silent and wait.

I am perfectly aware that the sublime realisation which has suddenly fallen upon me is nothing else than a spreading ripple oftelepathic radiation from this mysterious and imperturbable man.

The Maharshi once told me, “The greatest error of a man is to think that he is weak by nature, evil by nature. Every man is divine and strong in his real nature. What are weak and evil are his habits, his desires and thoughts, but not himself.” His words came as an invigorating tonic. They refresh and inspire me. From another man’s lips, from some lesser and feeble soul, I would refuse to accept them at such worth and would persist in refuting them. But an inward monitor assures me that the Sage speaks out of the depth of a great and authentic spiritual experience and not as some theorizing philosopher on the thin stilts of speculation.

Not a few Western minds will inevitably consider that the life of the Maharshi is a wasted one. But perhaps it may be good for us to have a few men who are apart from our world of unending activity, and survey it for us from afar. It may also be that a jungle Sage, with self lying conquered at his feet, is not inferior to a worldly fool who is blown hither and thither by every circumstance.

Day after day brings fresh indications of the greatness of this man. His silence and reserve are habitual. One can easily count up the number of words he uses in a single day.

I am learning to see that the Maharshi’s way of helping others is through unobstrusive, silent and steady outpouring of healing vibrations into troubled souls. Science will one day be required to account for this mysterious telepathic process.

It is clear that his mere presence provides many with spiritual assurance, emotional felicity and, most paradoxical of all, renewed faith in their creed. For the Sage treats all creeds alike, and honours Jesus no less than Krishna.

During daily meditation in the potent neighbourhood of the Sage, I have learnt how to carry my thoughts inwards to an ever-deepening point. Again and again, I become conscious that he is drawing my mind into his own atmosphere during these periods of quiet repose. And it is at such times that one begins to understand why the silences of this man are more significant than his utterances.

There are moments when I feel this power of his so greatly that I know that he has only to issue the most disturbing command and I will readily obey it. But the Maharshi is the last person in the world to place his followers in the chain of servile obedience, and allows everyone the utmost freedom of action. In this respect he is quite refreshingly different from most of the teachers and yogis I have met in India.

The gist of his message is: “Pursue the enquiry, ‘Who am I?’ relentlessly. Analyse your entire personality. Try to find out where the ‘I’ thought begins. Go on with your meditations. Keep turning your attention within. One day the wheel of thought will slow down and an intuition will mysteriously arise. Follow that intuition, let your thinking stop and it will eventually lead you to the goal.“

I struggle daily with my thoughts and cut away slowly into the inner recesses of the mind. In the helpful proximity of the Maharshi, my meditations and self-soliloquies become increasingly less tiring and more effective. A strong expectancy and a sense of being guided inspire my constantly repeated efforts.There are strange hours when I am clearly conscious of the unseen power of the Sage being powerfully impacted on my mentality, with the result that I penetrate a little deeper still into the shrouded border land of being, which surrounds the human mind.

I study him intently and gradually come to see in him the child of a remote past when the discovery of spiritual truth was reckoned of no less value than is the discovery of a gold mine today. It dawns upon me with increasing force that, in this quiet and obscure corner of South India, I have been led to one of the last of India’s spiritual supermen.

The serene figure ofthis living Sage brings the legendary figure of this country’s ancient rishis nearer to me. One senses that the most wonderful part of this man is withheld. His deepest soul, which one instinctively recognises as being loaded with rich wisdom, eludes one. At times he still remains curiously aloof, and at other times the kindly benediction of his interior grace binds me to him with hoops of steel. I learn to submit to the enigma of his personality, and to accept him as I find him.

I like him greatly because he is so simple and modest, when an atmosphere of authentic greatness lies so palpably around him;

because he makes no claim to occult powers and hierophantic knowledge to impress the mystery-loving nature of his countrymen, and also because he is so totally without any traces of pretension and he strongly resists every effort to canonize him during his lifetime.

It seems to me that the presence of men like the Maharshi ensures the continuity down history of a divine message from regions not easily accessible to us all. It seems to me, further, that one must accept the fact that such a sage comes to reveal something to us, not to argue anything with us. At any rate, his teachings make a strong appeal to me.

He brings no supernatural power and demands no blind faith. He avoids the dark and debatable waters of wizardry, in which so many promising voyages have ended in shipwreck. He simply puts forward a way of self-analysis which can be practised irrespective of any ancient or modern theories and beliefs which one may hold, a way that will finally lead man to true self-understanding.

Again and again, I am aware that the Maharshi’s mind is imparting something to my own, though no words may be passing between us.

Spiritually my life is nearing its peak.

I enter the hall and straight away assume my regular meditation posture. An intense interiorization of consciousness comes with the closing of eyes. The Maharshi’s seated form floats in a vivid manner before my mind’s eye. Then the picture disappears leaving me with nothing more than a strongly felt sense of his intimate presence.

Tonight I flash swiftly to a pin-point of concentration. Some new and powerful force comes into dynamic action within my inner world and bears me inwards with resistless speed. In the next stage, I stand apart from the intellect, conscious that it is thinking, and watch thoughts with a weird detachment. The power to think, which has hitherto been a matter for merely ordinary pride, now becomes a thing from which to escape, for I perceive with startling clarity that I have been its unconscious captive.

It is strange enough to be able to stand aside and watch the very action of the brain as though it were someone else’s and to see how thoughts take their rise and then die, but it is stranger still to realise intuitively that one is about to penetrate into the mysteries which hide in the innermost recesses of man’s soul. I feel like some Columbus about to land on an uncharted continent.

Finally it happens. Thought is extinguished like a snuffed candle. The mind takes its rise in a transcendental source. I remain perfectly calm and fully aware of who I am and what is occurring.Yet my sense of awareness has been drawn out of the narrow confines of the separate personality; it has turned into something sublimely all embracing. Self still exists, but it is a changed, radiant self. With it arrives an amazing new sense of absolute freedom, for thought is like a loom-shuttle which always is going to and fro, and to be freed from its tyrannical motion is to step out of prison into the open air.

I find myself outside the rim of world consciousness. The planet, which has so far harboured me, disappears. I am in the midst of an ocean of blazing light. The latter, I feel rather than think, is the primeval stuff out of which worlds are created, the first state of matter. It stretches away into untellable infinite space, incredibly alive.

I, the new I, rest in the lap of holy bliss. I have drunk the Platonic Cup of Lethe, so that yesterday’s bitter memories and tomorrow’s anxious cares have disappeared completely. I have attained a divine liberty and an almost indescribable felicity. My arms embrace all creation with profound sympathy, for I understand in the deepest possible way that to know all is not merely to pardon all, but to love all. My heart is remoulded in rapture.

With the fall of dusk I take my farewells of everyone except the Maharshi. I feel quietly content because my battle for spiritual certitude has been won, and because I have won it without sacrificing my dearly held rationalism for a blind credulity. Yet when the Maharshi comes to the courtyard with me a little later, my contentment suddenly deserts me.

This man has strangely conquered me and it deeply affects my feelings to leave him. He has grappled me to his own soul with unseen hooks that are harder than steel, although he has sought only to restore a man to himself, to set him free and not to enslave him. He has taken me into the benign presence of my spiritual self and helped me, dull Westerner that I am, to translate a meaningless term into a living and blissful experience. My adventure in self-metamorphosis is now over.

The following are a few of the many anecdotes recorded in A Search in Secret India:

(i) Among the strangely diversified company of human beings who pass through the hermitage, a pariah stumbles into the hall in some great agony of soul or circumstances and pours out his tribulation at the Maharshi’s feet. The Sage does not reply, for his silence and reserve are habitual. Instead he gazes quietly at the suffering man, whose cries gradually diminish until he leaves the hall two hours later a more serene and stronger man.

(ii) A cultured Brahmin, college-bred, arrives with questions. One can never be certain whether the Sage will make a verbal response or not, for often he is eloquent enough without opening his lips. But today he is in a communicative mood and a few of his terse phrases, packed with profound meanings as they usually are, open many vistas of thought for the visitor.

(iii) A peasant and his family have travelled over some hundred miles to pay a silent homage to the Sage. He is totally illiterate, knows little beyond his daily work, his religious rites and ancestral superstitions. He sits on the floor quietly after having prostrated himself three times. The family stays for a few hours, hardly speaking, and gaze in reverence at the Maharshi. It is clear that the Maharshi’s mere presence provides them with spiritual assurance and emotional felicity.

(iv) A large group of visitors and devotees are in the hall when someone arrives with the news that a certain man, whose criminal reputation is a byword in the town, is dead. Immediately, there is some discussion about him, and as is the wont of human nature, various people get engaged in recalling some of his crimes and the more dastardly phases of his character. When the discussion appears to have ended, the Maharshi opens his mouth for the first time and quietly observes, “Yes, but he kept himself very clean, for he bathed two or three times a day!“

Brunton records in his second book The Secret Path:

In the Maharshi I discovered the last remnants of that ‘Mystic East’ about which most of us often hear, but which few of us ever find. I met an unusual man who quickly earned my humble veneration. For although he belonged by tradition to the class of Wise Men of the East, a class which has largely disappeared from the modern world, he avoided all record of his existence and disdained efforts to give him publicity.

The world wants its great men to measure their lives by its puny foot-rule. But no rule has yet been devised which will take their full height, for such men, if they are really worth their name, derive their greatness, not from themselves but from another source. And that source stretches far away into the Infinite. Such sages dwell outwardly apart, keeping alive the divine secrets, which life and fate have conspired to confide in their care.

The Maharshi interested me much despite the fact that his wisdom was not of a kind which is easily apparent and despite the strong reserve which encircled him. He broke his habitual silence only to answer questions upon such recondite topics as the nature of man’s soul, the mystery of God, the strange powers which lie unused in the human mind, and so on, but when he did venture to speak I used to sit enthralled as I listened to his soft voice and inspiration gleamed in those luminous eyes. Each phrase that fell from his lips seemed to contain some precious fragment of essential truth.

In the presence of the Maharshi one felt security and inward peace. The spiritual radiations that emanated from him were allpenetrating. I learnt to recognise in his person the sublime truths which he taught, while I was no less hushed into reverence by his incredibly sainted atmosphere. He possessed a deific personality which defies description. I might have taken shorthand notes of the discourse of the Sage, I might even print the record of his speech; but the most important part of his utterances, the subtle and silent flavour of spirituality which emanated from him, can never be reported.

One could not forget that wonderful pregnant smile of his, with its hint of wisdom and peace won from suffering and experience. He was the most understanding man I have ever known; you could be sure always of some word from him that would smooth your way a little, and that word always verified what your deepest feeling told you already.

The words of the Maharshi flame out in my memory like beacon lights. “I pluck golden fruits from rare meetings with wise men”, wrote trans-Atlantic Emerson in his diary, and it is certain that I plucked whole basketfuls during my talks with this man. Our best philosophers of Europe could not hold a candle to him.

Brunton writes in his fourth book A Message from Arunachala:

I found my own good fortune and needed no other, for I discovered one of the last of India’s spiritual supermen, the Illuminated Sage of Tiruvannamalai. I ‘sat at his feet’, as the ancient Indian phrase of pupilship poetically terms it, and thereby learned, through a dynamic experience, of what divine and deathless stuff man is really made. What higher fortune than that can we, pitiful mortals, require?

He sat as immobile as a rock in the ocean, cross-legged in meditation. We foolishly imagine that such a man has failed to put up with the bustling procession of life; it never occurs to us that he may have far out-stepped it.

The Maharshi said, “Suffering turns men towards their creator.” Such simple words – yet what a whole philosophy is congealed within the phrase. You may think them to be platitudinous, and they would be, did they not derive from a man who knew what he was talking about because he ascended to spiritual regions beyond our kin, to regions where God is.

The following is from The Note Books of Paul Brunton (vol.10):

Ramana Maharshi was one of those few men who make their appearance on this earth from time to time and who are unique, themselves alone – not copies of anyone else. Face to face with the Maharshi, sometimes one felt in the presence of a visitor from another planet, at other times with a being of another species.

Gazing upon this man, whose viewless eyes are gazing upon infinity, I thought of Aristotle’s daring advice, “Let us live as if we were immortal.” Here was one who might not have heard of Aristotle, but who was following this counsel to the last letter.

The following is from The Silent Power: 1

(i) A Pure Channel for a Higher Power: Forty years have passed since I walked into his abode and saw the Maharshi half-reclining, half-sitting on a couch. After such a long period most memories of the past become somewhat faded, if they do not lose their existence altogether. But I can truthfully declare that in this case nothing of the kind has happened. On the contrary, his face, expression, figure and surroundings are as vivid now as they were then.What is even more important to me is that – at least during my daily periods of meditation – the feeling of his radiant presence is as actual and as immediate today as it was on that first day.

So powerful an impression could not have been made, nor continued through the numerous vicissitudes of an incarnation which has taken me around the world, if the Maharshi has been an ordinary yogi. I have met dozens of yogis, in their Eastern and Western varieties, and many exceptional persons. Whatever status is assigned to the Maharshi by his followers, my own position is independent and unbiased. It is based upon our private talks in those early days when such things were still possible, before fame brought crowds; upon observations of, and conversation with those who were around him; upon his historical record; and finally upon my own personal experiences. Upon all the evidence one fact is incontrovertibly clear that he was a pure channel for a Higher Power.

No physical phenomenon of an occult kind was ever witnessed then; nothing at all happened outwardly. But those who were not steeped too far in materialism to recognise what was happening within him and within themselves at the time, or those who were not congealed too stiffly in suspicion or criticism to be passive and sensitive intuitively, felt a distinct change in the mental atmosphere. It was uplifting and inspiring: for the time being it pushed them out of their little selves, even if only partially.

(ii) A Spiritual Torch: Since the day when I first found him, absorbed in the mysterious trance of samadhi, I have travelled in many lands but always my thoughts turned towards Tiruvannamalai as the Muhammedan turns his face during prayer towards Mecca. I knew that somewhere in the wilderness of this world there was a sacred place for me.

At the Sage’s feet, I picked up a spiritual torch and carried it to waiting souls in the lands of the West. They welcomed the light with eagerness. There should be no virtue to be accredited to me for that, for whatsoever benefit has accrued to Western seekers comes from the torch which was lit by the Maharshi himself. I was only the unimportant ‘link boy’ the humble carrier. [ See Paul Brunton in photograph no.13 in the book.] 1. An anthology published by Sri Ramanasramam.

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[Wind]

Anything you perceive
cannot be what you are.
Simply observe this internally until
it becomes naturally confirmed
in your mind.
You are before anything
that comes in your mind
because you are the one that perceives
whatever comes and goes.
This understanding is timeless.
Stay as the awareness
in which this is
perceived.

~ Mooji

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[greybeard]

What Everyone Needs To Know In The Months & Years Ahead – There Is No ‘Death’ – David Icke Dot-Connector


https://davidicke.com/2021/08/18/what-everyone-needs-to-know-in-the-months-years-ahead-there-is-no-death-david-icke-dot-connector/

[Wind]

May each one, by grace,
be touched in such a way
as to begin to reflect
more deeply and consciously
upon the true meaning
and purpose of life.
May each one become inspired
to think in a higher way,
to act from righteousness,
with loving kindness and respect.
May each one endeavour to live
without selfishness, fear or ego,
and ultimately come to seek and
find their original nature,
otherwise known as God-realisation
or the realisation of
the authentic Self.
By God’s grace,
Satsang enters our lives
so that we may fulfil
this one real opportunity
that exists for every human being:
to wake up to the reality of who
or what we truly are and
thus discover what life really is.
Out of that realisation
we naturally come to love each other,
take care for this planet
and all the beings who live here.
This is the prayer that I make this day.

~ Mooji

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[greybeard]

Ingrid Honkala - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeyliZzVozc

[indiana]

Hi Greybeard, good to see you :-) I've been looking at ur posts over the last 18 months or so as a guest. Avalon has kindly re-activated my account. Boy what a world we're living in now :-) Anyway, you probably don't remember me but just to say I had a serious alcohol problem and I'm very glad to say I'm 6 years clean and sober as they say. I'm very into (and loving) the teaching of Ramana Maharshi and Rama Krishna. I'm also very disappointed by Mother Amma and Mother Meera at the moment. Maybe you haven't come across them in your journey. Anyway, both are advocating for the jab. Both are saying it's safe. And both, it is claimed, are enlightened. I've seen both of them many times over the last 10 years, including travelling to Germany to see Mother Meera several times. I'm gutted to be honest. I've fallen out with many of their devotees over this jab malarkey. To the point where I just don't say anything about it to them anymore. I really wonder what Ramana Maharshi and Rama Krishna would say about it all :-) Of course, there's absolute Truth and there's relative truth. Anyway, just to say hi and good to see you.

[greybeard]

Good to see you indiana.
Congratulations on your sobriety --its a hard won battle at times.
I would have thought "spiritual" people would appreciate their God given immune system.
Anyway, its all the play of consciousness
Love Chris

[greybeard]

|| Maya || by Swami Sarvapriyananda



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxUXl2YXXL4&t=190s

[greybeard]

Going into the light

I found this a very interesting study of Near Death Experiences.
Different levels of experiences -- the ultimate one being non-duality.
A divine figure said he had the ability to present as Jesus -- the Buddha --what ever was appropriate to the persons beliefs.
Also brings to mind Jesus said "In my Fathers house are many mansions"

Prayers are very powerful
I continue to pray

"Beloved, please remove the evil from the world and any evil within me and replace it with unconditional love.
Thy will be done, not mine"
chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d--o5CdHnj4&t=23s

[greybeard]

My Near Death Like Experience | What I Saw On The Other Side | My Story Part 4



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN5nJ9LvDIQ


Thank you for watching, friends! Don’t forget to subscribe, share and like! Please comment with your thoughts, opinions, stories and questions in a KIND and RESPECTFUL manner!! Discussion from a wide range of viewpoints is encouraged, but disrespect, proselytizing, and hate speech will not be tolerated.

First three videos in this series:
Part 1: My Journey to Christian Universalism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n1Ja...
Part 2: My Journey to Christian Mysticism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm1D4...
Part 3: My Story with Law of Attraction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciE35...

My Pre-Birth Memories and NDE-Like Experience:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QDkd...

Music that sounds like what I heard on the other side:
Iasos - The Angels Of Comfort: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT3Ri...
Brian Eno - An Ending (Ascent): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlaTe...
Constance Demby - Celestial Communion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2DbY...
Constance Demby - Ave's Trance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e16rK...
Deuter - Marfa Lights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oei-X...
Liquid Mind - Through My Eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KIh2...
Liquid Mind - Into the Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbC99...
Nu Meditation Music - Healing Sleep Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC79e...

[greybeard]

Earth changes -- vibrational and physical.
Is There Judgement on the Other Side? | Dennis Bullock Near Death Experience Part 2

It is partly NDE but a lot about, dare I say it, ascension.
He makes sense to me.
Chris


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[Wind]

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[greybeard]

REFUSE TO BE WHO YOU ARE NOT, AND BE WHO YOU ARE - MEDICINE OF ONE SHAMANIC NON-DUALSIM - LOMAKAYU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UYX0Qn4bM8

[greybeard]

One of the best description of the awakening process I have seen
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiw9dHLvEog&t=868s

[Wind]

Who am I? Aham Brahmasmi (https://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/essays/mahavakyas2.asp)

Mahavakya: aham brahmasmi

Translation: aham = I, Brahmasmi = am Brahman

Meaning: I am Brahman

The statement "I am Brahman" is both a postulation on the state of Brahman at an intellectual level and an expression of an enlightened yogi (Brahmajnani) in a state of self-realization. The first one comes out of an insight through the study that "I am" is the state of "Brahman". The second one comes out of an inner experience that "I am indeed none other than Brahman". One is a philosophical insight gained through vichara (thinking), and the other is an awareness which is experienced in a transcendental state of samadhi or union.

The statement "aham brahmasmi" does not vouch that "Atman (self) is Brahman", but "I am Brahman". It is an expression of "I am ness", not Atman, in relationship with Brahman. This distinction is important because different schools of Hinduism interpret the relationship between Atman and Brahman differently, which we will discuss in the last part of this essay. The state of "I am ness" exists in creation in different degrees, ranging from a self aware state of "I am only" to a nescient state of "I am not".

The Five States of "I am ness"

We can discern at least five different states of "I am ness" in beings (jivas). These states are neither sequential nor consequential. A being may experience one or more of these at different times in its existence or at the same time in different dimensions of consciousness. There may be even divisions and subdivision with in each state. We are confining here our discussion to a general description of the five states, which are explained below.


The first state is the state of "I am not aware that I exist". This is the unconscious state which we experience in our sleeping state and which a recently born baby experiences in its waking state. In the macrocosm, it is also the state of the inanimate objects and many lower organisms.


The second one is the state of "I am aware that I exist but I cannot conceptualize it". This is the semi conscious state which we experience in our dreaming state and the state of a few weeks' old baby. In the macrocosm it is the state of most animals and birds.


The third one is the state of "I am aware that I exist in relationship with things, beings and objects." This is the waking state of our ordinary consciousness. In this state, I have some awareness of myself, which is sufficient enough for me to conduct myself in the world and deal with it intelligently. I can identify myself with my unique features, my individuality, my physical personality, my distinct qualities, my actions, my thoughts, my desires and my emotions. It is also the state of duality and the state of a bonded soul.


The fourth one is the state of "I am aware that I exist. I am also aware that I am existence itself." In this state, I can experience my omnipresence. I can shift my center of awareness at will. I am detached, not bound by the limitations of ego. I am a liberated soul in its subjective state of complete awareness, fulfilled and detached. I exist not in relationship with others but by myself. This is the state of the pure consciousness and of the unlimited self, having the awareness of "I am Brahman" and "Thou art That", not as a mental notion but in a state of self-realization. This is the state of Atman.


The fifth one is the state of "I am I am." I do not know anyone or anything other than myself. I am absorbed in myself and exist by myself. I am limitless and absolute except when I am associated with my nature (prakriti). I have no duality. There is no instrument by which I know my existence or my otherness, except in a jiva or in a state of incarnation. I am in all and all are in me. This is the state of the supreme eternal Brahman, the state of oneness, the state of non duality, the indivisible, infinite, immeasurable, unknowable state of Being. This is a pure state of "I am only". This is the indescribable state of Brahman in its absolute aspect.


The Four States of Consciousness

Corresponding with these are the four states of self awareness in human beings. The Mandukya Upanishad speaks of them in some detail. In each state, an individual experiences his self differently. These are described below.


The jagrat or vaishvanara or the waking state. In this state the real self is hidden and the false self is active and in control. This is a state where the lower self is active and the higher self is veiled or hidden. This is a state where I am the body, the mind, the senses and the elements. I am subject to the play of the elements and the laws of karma. I go by a name and form that separates me from rest of the world. This is what the wise say night and the ignorant call day.


The taijasa or svapna or dreaming state. This is a state where I am semi conscious and identify myself with my inner consciousness, my subtle bodies and senses. I am not even sure which of my selves is active in my dreams, whether my false self or real self or an imaginary self.


The prajna or sushupti or deep sleep state. This is a state where I am unconscious and do not know who I am. I am asleep. So are my mind, body and the senses.


The Turiya or the pure state of being. This is a state where I know who I am really. I am wide awake, not in a state of duality but unity and bliss. In this state, I have transcended my elemental self. I Know that I am Atman and also Brahman. I know that I am neither outer consciousness nor inner consciousness, neither semi-consciousness nor sleeping consciousness, neither consciousness nor unconsciousness. This is the state in which the ignorant are asleep and the wise ones are wide awake.

Elemental Self vs Real Self

In the Maitri Upanishad, Prajapati explains to his student Vlakhilyas two types of souls, the bhutatman or the elemental soul and the Atman or the real soul. The bhutatman is the lower self made of the body, the mind, the senses and the elements. It is bound by the qualities of nature and laws of karma. Because it is limited in knowledge it falls into confusion and fails to be conscious of the God, who dwells within. Whenever the elemental soul has thoughts of "I" and "mine", it binds itself with its lower nature and experiences separation and duality. The real self stays in the background, without participating in the events happening around. It awakes only when the elemental soul is at rest or inactive.

In Atman every experience is subjective. Atman does not interact with any object or use any external means to know or experience. It exists by itself and knows by itself. In contrast the experience of elemental self is objective. It uses the mind and the senses to interact with the objects of the phenomenal world. As a seeker begins to withdraw his senses into his mind and his mind into himself, in his elemental self he is confronted with several objects that present themselves to his elemental consciousness. These are the things, desires, thoughts, feelings, knowledge, visions, emotions, temptations, energies, gods and dreams that prevent a smooth self enquiry, like waves of an ocean that rise and fall trying to push away any one who wants to go deeper. If the seeker is not careful he or she would be caught in the whirlpool of these objective phenomena and never reach the inmost self hidden within.

The Gurus as Guide in a World of Objects

This is where the guidance of a guru becomes important. A guru teaches his students how to develop detachment and discernment using the very objective experience that acts as an impediment in case of the uninitiated. He teaches them how to ride the waves of the elemental consciousness like experienced divers, using certain techniques to develop discernment (buddhi) and stay focused. One of the techniques is to develop discrimination and right knowledge by using such expressions as "I am not this" (idam na aham) or "I am not that" (tan na aham), or not this, not this (neti neti). A seeker uses these expressions when various phenomena present themselves in his consciousness, till he transcends the objective reality and reaches the supreme subjective state of "I am Brahman"

The Relationship Between Atman and Brahman

The relationship between Atman and Brahman, or the questions of whether Atman is Brahman, has been approached differently by different schools of religious thought in ancient India. Following is a summary of how this relationship has been interpreted in the past by various schools of Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism.


All is Brahman. There is nothing else other than Brahman. He is the cause of all causes. He is also called Atman. In reality there is no distinction between the two. Atman is another name of Brahman or a mental construct we use to make sense of Brahman as the self of individual beings. There may be many beings in the creation, but there in only one Brahman in all of them. During creation Brahman projects himself out as everything and at the end of creation withdraws everything into himself. The phenomenal world is unreal. It an illusion or an apparition, which disappears when we overcome our ignorance and realize the true state of Brahman.


All is Brahman. Brahman is everything. He is the cause of all causes. However Brahman and Atman cannot be construed as the same. There is a subtle difference. Their relationship is one of bheda-abheda (different but also the same). The individual selves exist in Brahman sharing the same consciousness but appearing as separate entities like the reflection of objects in a mirror in relationship with the mirror. The individual beings become deluded by the power of maya after coming into contact with the elements and qualities of nature. When they overcome maya, they regain their true consciousness. They rejoin Brahman and exist no more as individual entities.


Brahman and the individual selves exist as separate entities sharing the same consciousness. Brahman is not the cause of their creation. The individual beings co exist eternally with Brahman and come under the cloud of maya or delusion caused by Prakriti which also coexist with them eternally. When they are freed from it they continue to exist as individual beings in their fully realized state even after liberation. They never become one with Brahman. You will find this argument in the Samkhya Darshana.


Brahman does not exist. But the individual selves exist. They join with Prakriti and experience the illusion of limitations in the phenomenal world. When they overcome the illusion they regain their pure state and continue their existence as liberated beings.


An absolute being or cause of causes does not exist or may not exist. Beings are anatman that is they do not have souls that are eternal and absolute in nature. Beings come into existence through the aggregation of elements and qualities which result in the formation of bodies and consciousness and the illusion of individuality (ego or self) that is subject to becoming and changing and the laws of karma. It is like the way water vapor or clouds appear in an empty space and assume many forms and states owing to a variety of circumstances and the action of elements. When beings transcend the process of becoming and changing through detachment and mindfulness they enter a state of freedom from becoming and changing which is called nirvana or kaivalya. This view is held in atheistic or materialistic (nastika vada or lokayata) schools.


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[greybeard]

YOU ARE THE MEDICINE OF ONE - When the Unreal moves in the Real all is real-Sedona non dual healing



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfSLkb3HBzE

[Wind]

"Ramana Maharshi, was once asked (https://willkenway.medium.com/there-are-no-others-2370fd1a0853), “How should we treat others?”
He replied, “There are no others."

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[greybeard]

Eckhart Tolle said "There was never anyone there to harm you"
Thanks Wind
Chris

[Mashika]

"Ramana Maharshi, was once asked (https://willkenway.medium.com/there-are-no-others-2370fd1a0853), “How should we treat others?”
He replied, “There are no others."

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And being capable of this understanding, is also ego :)

There is always a reasoning, and an explanation for everything...

"And this, too, is meaningless"

:p

[greybeard]

Yes Mashika --you are correct -- an Intellectual understanding is not it.
The ego wants to be an enlightened ego.
Love Chris

[Wind]

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[O Donna]

Regarding Enlightenment:
Enlightenment would be/ is opposed to the word. (See, I am doing it right now)

Manifestation, it's something else.

[Mashika]

My master had some things to say about all these things :bearhug:

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[Mashika]

I think i'm going to post something here, because i don't want to go away without explaining something very important to people who may dedicate their lives to Meditation/Zen/Buddhism. I believe that people need to be challenged as i was, before reaching the point of saying "yes i understand and i like it, i want to know more, because i know it will make me a better person if i can manage to use this for my benefit" and the point of "I don't have a clue what's going on, but i understand somehow that this is happening and somehow i'm aligned to it, even though i'm a bit hurt and sad that you said some things you said"

The Keisaku, otherwise known as the "Zen stick" the "punishment stick" and so on, is not at all a violent thing. Instead, it is an empathic way, to help out each other *for the people who can understand*, probably should be named the "Awaking stick" but it does seem most people in the west were incapable of this understanding and therefore they decided to erase it completely, rather than make the effort to change their minds around that concept. "Too complicated" without rebuilding your core ideologies. So rather go and rebuild theirs to fit eastern views, they said: i'll declare myself an "expert on eastern ideologies", but will throw all those complicated things away! We don't need them

Yeah..

Anyway, here's what that truly means:

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I am upset that at some point, while practicing my religion here, i got told "why the violence!" and were reprimanded badly for exercising my very own religion, as if it meant something wrong

I did not understood they did not know, "i thought they did knew" but these people claimed to be some kind of "experts" and explained back to me Zen, Buddhism, meditation and other concepts as if they knew for real, in terrible badly broken concepts, if at all. And once i tested them, they failed badly at even the very basic concepts of what the entire thing is :)

I'm still hurt by it, to be very honest, i trusted they would know and went freely talking about it, and they replied with a "ho ho ho" matter, and "why the violence" when i spoke about the "Keisaku", or "Kyosaku" or whatever it is called in the west. I was truly broken in my heart back then, i felt hate, and disturbance and a lot of other dark things, all because of "nothing" in the end, as i see it now :)

Anyway, i'm hoping these videos i post here, may clarify for people a lot of things, and help them in the quest for a true understanding of what eastern culture truly is

The reason i am posting this, is because i was hurt very very badly just some minutes ago, honestly, as i was reading through a backup of private messages i made from Avalon some weeks ago. And i found one that hurt me to the very core of my being. It said something like:

"Why the f=*c*k did you post this?"

And the post i had made said :"I have been using my Kyosaku all this time on this thread" or something on those lines

Then i got a reply that said
"No replied was needed, fix it!"

But there was nothing to fix, unless i could change the last 1000 years of Buddhism and practices. So i said "there's nothing to fix", and i was completely misunderstood

It broke me very badly, because it was assumed i was insulting someone, somehow, when i actually had all the best intentions and will to help and be there for them

I did not get it at the time, and i tried to move forward, but now reading it again, it has broken me terribly bad. I thought i was over it, but i was not, clearly as how i feel right now :/

This is what Keisaku/Kyosaku or whatever you call it, truly means, how can this be considered "violent or insulting" for a real Zen or Buddhism practitioner? Only true ignorance leads to believe this is a violent act or there is some kind of hate on this action. And for that, i'm truly sad right now, as i keep reading those words that hurt me very bad back then, when i thought i was talking to people who "knew" these things. And the words burn through my soul very badly, causing stupid, idiotic, useless tears to come down, without need

You may have to click on the links and go to youtube to watch some of these videos

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But ok, i'm hoping this may help people to understand what Zen/Buddhism is more about, rather than a fake version of it, and they may understand or get interested in the real thing, instead of some bastardized, cheap version of it

Yes, i'm angry, but mostly, sad and disappointed

I'm sorry that i was unable to figure out they did not know the things i was talking about, and through assuming they did, i somehow managed to insult them. But i'm even more sorry that they claimed and acted as if they "knew things" when they did not at all, and they acted all myghty all about it, that was terrible, honestly

I'm out now, thanks for reading

[greybeard]

You can always express your feelings here, Mashika.
What you have posted may benefit those ready to hear.
Love Chris

[Wind]

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[Mashika]

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Everyone felt appreciated "not" that day

Empty of everything, full of nothing, everyone thought, then unthought about nothing/everything at all!

:P

[Clear Light]

Oh, in reference to ZEN, what about the following from Dogen's Shōbōgenzō eh ?


To study the Buddha Way is to study the self. To study the self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to be actualized by myriad things. When actualized by myriad things, your body and mind as well as the bodies and minds of others drop away. No trace of enlightenment remains, and this no-trace continues endlessly.

But *how* does studying the "self" lead to it falling away ? From my experience, I'd suggest such a practice of self-reflection is comparable to the Advaita approach of Neti-Neti ... inasmuch as it is like asking WHO is seeking Enlightenment eh ? :heart:

Just my $0.02 ;)

[Wind]

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[Mashika]

Oh, in reference to ZEN, what about the following from Dogen's Shōbōgenzō eh ?


To study the Buddha Way is to study the self. To study the self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to be actualized by myriad things. When actualized by myriad things, your body and mind as well as the bodies and minds of others drop away. No trace of enlightenment remains, and this no-trace continues endlessly.

But *how* does studying the "self" lead to it falling away ? From my experience, I'd suggest such a practice of self-reflection is comparable to the Advaita approach of Neti-Neti ... inasmuch as it is like asking WHO is seeking Enlightenment eh ? :heart:

Just my $0.02 ;)

This is Buddhism, not Zen :)

Zen is not Buddhism, and Buddhism is not Zen. There are pieces that overlap, but just in some areas. In general Zen is not at all a structured thing, or concept, such as Buddhism is



To study the Buddha Way is to study the self.

If you "study" then you are following a structure, or path, and that's not Zen. That's Buddhism, and it, by definition of "studying" implies that there has to be someone who knows more than you, "A teacher" or "master'.

Then, just right there, a power structure was formed. You have to follow directions, you are under a structure of knowledge, you are no longer able to see yourself. Rather, you see what your master sees in you, and you will grow to become what he expects you to become, according the potential the master sees in you

There is no "you" anymore, as far as who you were when being born. Now you are more and more like your master, day by day, attempting to become the same as the master, or teacher. That person you were before? It doesn't matter, you have been shown "the way"

Food for thought, or thought for food? :P

ETA:

"In Zen, wisdom comes from personal experience. Everyone is a student, even the teachers"

And

"I don’t say there is no Zen, only that there are no teachers" - "Zen Teacher" Huangbo
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:clapping: :bearhug:

[greybeard]

Nasargadatta would lay a trap for new arrivals.
He would ask them what they knew about spirituality.
They would launch into their concepts, beliefs etc.
Eventually he would interrupt and say -- "Thats not it"
Not this not that.
All concepts must go.

ACIM quote
"The moment you take up a position know you are identifying with an illusion"

Good to see a conversation happening here.

The so-called path gets narrower and narrower.
My current belief is.
One without a second.
Only God (consciousness) is. I am that.
What else can be said?
Love Chris

[Mashika]

You can always express your feelings here, Mashika.
What you have posted may benefit those ready to hear.
Love Chris

Thanks for having me :heart::flower:

I'm supposed to be sleeping now, but i can't :/ So i came here to post instead

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Nasargadatta would lay a trap for new arrivals.
He would ask them what they knew about spirituality.
They would launch into their concepts, beliefs etc.
Eventually he would interrupt and say -- "Thats not it"
Not this not that.
All concepts must go.

ACIM quote
"The moment you take up a position know you are identifying with an illusion"

Good to see a conversation happening here.

The so-called path gets narrower and narrower.
My current belief is.
One without a second.
Only God (consciousness) is. I am that.
What else can be said?
Love Chris

"Good to see a conversation happening here"
It would be so lovely if it could keep going on :)

[Clear Light]

To study the Buddha Way is to study the self.

If you "study" then you are following a structure, or path, and that's not Zen. That's Buddhism, and it, by definition of "studying" implies that there has to be someone who knows more than you, "A teacher" or "master'.

Then, just right there, a power structure was formed. You have to follow directions, you are under a structure of knowledge, you are no longer able to see yourself. Rather, you see what your master sees in you, and you will grow to become what he expects you to become, according the potential the master sees in you



Ah, but even the Historical Buddha was a student at one point, no doubt assiduously following the instructions of his teachers who were (so-to-say) further-along-the-path eh ?

Yet, as far as I am concerned, even if real ZEN is only a direct non-conceptual "seeing" it begs the question does it not, if there is no "you" (as some self), why spend so many years sitting cross-legged in front of a blank wall [1] eh ?


https://www.kew.org/sites/default/files/2019-05/Japanese%20Gateway%20and%20Landscape.jpg
Image : the Japanese Landscape as at Kew Gardens London

[1] or perhaps at a ZEN garden ? ;)

[Mashika]

To study the Buddha Way is to study the self.

If you "study" then you are following a structure, or path, and that's not Zen. That's Buddhism, and it, by definition of "studying" implies that there has to be someone who knows more than you, "A teacher" or "master'.

Then, just right there, a power structure was formed. You have to follow directions, you are under a structure of knowledge, you are no longer able to see yourself. Rather, you see what your master sees in you, and you will grow to become what he expects you to become, according the potential the master sees in you



Ah, but even the Historical Buddha was a student at one point, no doubt assiduously following the instructions of his teachers who were (so-to-say) further-along-the-path eh ?

Yet, as far as I am concerned, even if real ZEN is only a direct non-conceptual "seeing" it begs the question does it not, if there is no "you" (as some self), why spend so many years sitting cross-legged in front of a blank wall [1] eh ?


https://www.kew.org/sites/default/files/2019-05/Japanese%20Gateway%20and%20Landscape.jpg
Image : the Japanese Landscape as at Kew Gardens London

[1] or perhaps at a ZEN garden ? ;)

Alara Kalama was that teacher, and then he said "i can't teach you anymore, as far as this, we are equal" and then he released the student because he understood he was just slowing him down on the real path he had to follow

After that, in solitude, is when enlightenment came to Siddhartha Gautama. No one told him how or why, or where, or anything at all, as Alara Kalama actually "knew less" than the student

Therefore "I don’t say there is no Zen, only that there are no teachers"



why spend so many years sitting cross-legged in front of a blank wall

Why, indeed? That's a common western misconception about it all, Zen and meditation have nothing in common. That thing you mentioned there, sitting meditation, is a Buddhist thing, and not Zen at all, true Zen, doesn't even acknowledge Zazen as Buddhism does :)

You know why? Because it's a practice, a daily one, and that means "structure" and ideology, and organized religion after a while

And Zen, is nothing of that

Zazen, or sitting meditation, is not "Zen", it's Buddhism

Also there is no such thing as "Zen Buddhism" it's either Zen or Buddhism, it's impossible to be both. It's like breathing underwater, to attempt to mix both. But most people can't get why

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[Clear Light]

why spend so many years sitting cross-legged in front of a blank wall

Why, indeed? That's a common western misconception about it all, Zen and meditation have nothing in common. That thing you mentioned there, sitting meditation, is a Buddhist thing, and not Zen at all, true Zen, doesn't even acknowledge Zazen as Buddhism does :)

You know why? Because it's a practice, a daily one, and that means "structure" and ideology, and organized religion after a while

And Zen, is nothing of that

Zazen, or sitting meditation, is not "Zen", it's Buddhism

Also there is no such thing as "Zen Buddhism" it's either Zen or Buddhism, it's impossible to be both. It's like breathing underwater, to attempt to mix both. But most people can't get why

Oh, no, to the contrary, as I see it, Zazen is precisely the expression of Zen eh ? What follows is from Dogen's Fukanzazengi (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fukanzazengi+dogen) :


The Way is basically perfect and all-pervading. How could it be contingent upon practice and realization? The Dharma-vehicle is free and untrammelled. What need is there for concentrated effort? Indeed, the whole body is far beyond the world's dust. Who could believe in a means to brush it clean? It is never apart from one, right where one is. What is the use of going off here and there to practice?

[...]

Need I mention the Buddha, who was possessed of inborn knowledge? The influence of his six years of upright sitting is noticeable still. Or Bodhidharma's transmission of the mind-seal?--the fame of his nine years of wall-sitting is celebrated to this day. Since this was the case with the saints of old, how can we today dispense with negotiation of the Way?

You should therefore cease from practice based on intellectual understanding, pursuing words and following after speech, and learn the backward step that turns your light inwardly to illuminate your self. Body and mind of themselves will drop away, and your original face will be manifest. If you want to attain suchness, you should practice suchness without delay.

[...]

Once you have adjusted your posture, take a deep breath, inhale and exhale, rock your body right and left and settle into a steady, immobile sitting position. Think not-thinking. How do you think not-thinking? Non-thinking. This in itself is the essential art of zazen.

The zazen I speak of is not learning meditation. It is simply the Dharma gate of repose and bliss, the practice-realization of totally culminated enlightenment. It is the manifestation of ultimate reality. Traps and snares can never reach it. Once its heart is grasped, you are like the dragon when he gains the water, like the tiger when she enters the mountain. For you must know that just there (in zazen) the right Dharma is manifesting itself and that, from the first, dullness and distraction are struck aside.

[...]

This being the case, intelligence or lack of it does not matter: between the dull and the sharp-witted there is no distinction. If you concentrate your effort single-mindedly, that in itself is negotiating the Way. Practice-realization is naturally undefiled. Going forward (in practice) is a matter of everydayness.

:sherlock:

[xidaijena]

[QUOTE]
To study the Buddha Way is to study the self.

If you "study" then you are following a structure, or path, and that's not Zen. That's Buddhism, and it, by definition of "studying" implies that there has to be someone who knows more than you, "A teacher" or "master'
Then, just right there, a power structure was formed. You have to follow directions, you are under a structure of knowledge, you are no longer able to see yourself. Rather, you see what your master sees in you, and you will grow to become what he expects you to become, according the potential the master sees in you



Ah, but even the Historical Buddha was a student at one point, no doubt assiduously following the instructions of his teachers who were (so-to-say) further-along-the-path eh ?

Yet, as far as I am concerned, even if real ZEN is only a direct non-conceptual "seeing" it begs the question does it not, if there is no "you" (as some self), why spend so many years sitting cross-legged in front of a blank wall [COLOR="darkred"][1] eh ?


https://www.kew.org/sites/default/files/2019-05/Japanese%20Gateway%20and%20Landscape.jpg
Image : the Japanese Landscape as at Kew Gardens London

[1] or perhaps at a ZEN garden ? ;)

Alara Kalama was that teacher, and then he said "i can't teach you anymore, as far as this, we are equal" and then he released the student because he understood he was just slowing him down on the real path he had to follow

After that, in solitude, is when enlightenment came to Siddhartha Gautama. No one told him how or why, or where, or anything at all, as Alara Kalama actually "knew less" than the student

Therefore "I don’t say there is no Zen, only that there are no teachers"


why spend so many years sitting cross-legged in front of a blank wall

Why, indeed? That's a common western misconception about it all, Zen and meditation have nothing in common. That thing you mentioned there, sitting meditation, is a Buddhist thing, and not Zen at all, true Zen, doesn't even acknowledge Zazen as Buddhism does :)

You know why? Because it's a practice, a daily one, and that means "structure" and ideology, and organized religion after a while

And Zen, is nothing of that

Zazen, or sitting meditation, is not "Zen", it's Buddhism

Also there is no such thing as "Zen Buddhism" it's either Zen or Buddhism, it's impossible to be both. It's like breathing underwater, to attempt to mix both. But most people can't get why

:dancing::beer::sherlock::bearhug::p
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnf30mhaUa1qd4j76o1_500.gif

i agree with you, Mashika, you do have a very good understanding about Buddism. :flower::flower::flower:

[xidaijena]

why spend so many years sitting cross-legged in front of a blank wall

Why, indeed? That's a common western misconception about it all, Zen and meditation have nothing in common. That thing you mentioned there, sitting meditation, is a Buddhist thing, and not Zen at all, true Zen, doesn't even acknowledge Zazen as Buddhism does :)

You know why? Because it's a practice, a daily one, and that means "structure" and ideology, and organized religion after a while

And Zen, is nothing of that

Zazen, or sitting meditation, is not "Zen", it's Buddhism

Also there is no such thing as "Zen Buddhism" it's either Zen or Buddhism, it's impossible to be both. It's like breathing underwater, to attempt to mix both. But most people can't get why

Oh, no, to the contrary, as I see it, Zazen is precisely the expression of Zen eh ? What follows is from Dogen's Fukanzazengi (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fukanzazengi+dogen) :


The Way is basically perfect and all-pervading. How could it be contingent upon practice and realization? The Dharma-vehicle is free and untrammelled. What need is there for concentrated effort? Indeed, the whole body is far beyond the world's dust. Who could believe in a means to brush it clean? It is never apart from one, right where one is. What is the use of going off here and there to practice?

[...]

Need I mention the Buddha, who was possessed of inborn knowledge? The influence of his six years of upright sitting is noticeable still. Or Bodhidharma's transmission of the mind-seal?--the fame of his nine years of wall-sitting is celebrated to this day. Since this was the case with the saints of old, how can we today dispense with negotiation of the Way?

You should therefore cease from practice based on intellectual understanding, pursuing words and following after speech, and learn the backward step that turns your light inwardly to illuminate your self. Body and mind of themselves will drop away, and your original face will be manifest. If you want to attain suchness, you should practice suchness without delay.

[...]

Once you have adjusted your posture, take a deep breath, inhale and exhale, rock your body right and left and settle into a steady, immobile sitting position. Think not-thinking. How do you think not-thinking? Non-thinking. This in itself is the essential art of zazen.

The zazen I speak of is not learning meditation. It is simply the Dharma gate of repose and bliss, the practice-realization of totally culminated enlightenment. It is the manifestation of ultimate reality. Traps and snares can never reach it. Once its heart is grasped, you are like the dragon when he gains the water, like the tiger when she enters the mountain. For you must know that just there (in zazen) the right Dharma is manifesting itself and that, from the first, dullness and distraction are struck aside.

[...]

This being the case, intelligence or lack of it does not matter: between the dull and the sharp-witted there is no distinction. If you concentrate your effort single-mindedly, that in itself is negotiating the Way. Practice-realization is naturally undefiled. Going forward (in practice) is a matter of everydayness.

:sherlock:

I may share the Zen from Xuefeng's article with you to have a think tomorrow.

Have to sleep.

Good day.

Jena Wang

[greybeard]

Lovely to see this discussion on going
Love Chris

[xidaijena]

Oh, no, to the contrary, as I see it, Zazen is precisely the expression of Zen eh ? What follows is from Dogen's Fukanzazengi :

Here we go:

"Zen is the meaning of the heavenly book. There are no words in the heavenly book. You must understand the meaning. Once you break it or say the words, the Zen will be lost. This is not this, which is not that, this old king is not this old king, today Xuefeng is no longer yesterday's Xuefeng, so you can only understand it right now, and it will expire. Someone caught the scene when the peach blossoms were in full bloom. A few days later, he had to take a friend of him to watch the peach blossoms in full bloom. The friend was so excited that he went into the peach forest. The peach blossoms were sparse and the bees and butterflies were sparse. This is called the transition of time, one moment and another moment, and Zen is in that moment. To know Zen, you must understand it in your heart. The real Zen can only know oneself, others don’t know it, just like dreaming. Only oneself sees the dream, and other people don’t know it and cannot prove it to you. It’s impossible to tell others what you have learned about Zen. It can’t be done. There is only one way, and that is to “convey the heart with the heart”. Even if they drink the same glass of water, Zhang San's feeling of drinking it is different from Li Si's feeling of drinking it, because the mentality is different, the demand state is different, and the consciousness is different, so the same food will vary from person to person. In the same sentence, some people were happy when they heard it, some were angry when they heard it, some were enthusiastic when they heard it, and some were discouraged when they heard it. This varies from person to person.

Since Zen is a heavenly book, then may I ask, what is a heavenly book? Where is the heavenly book?

Answer: The heavenly book is a book without words. All things and phenomena are from the heavenly book. In other words, the objective existence is the heavenly book, and the subjective existence is also the heavenly book. Where is the heavenly book? The book of heaven is in your eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, consciousness, and the great world.

Therefore, Zen is the most profound, the most extensive, the most profound, the most accessible, and the most universal book. To learn Zen and to understand Zen is actually to read the heavenly scriptures, the non-character books. A person who can read a book without words is a person who understands Zen. Such a person is a master-level person. Set law, ever-changing, shapeless, shape with fate, is agile and lively, he looks like an old man for a while, a naughty child for a while, a serious talk for a while, a talk and laughter for a while, a peaceful and peaceful for a while, and a combination of strength and softness, with equal emphasis on grace and power. Such a person has actually entered the Tao and attained the Tao. Those with profound attainments are the incarnation of Tao."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Zen, for me, is to read the Nature from my feelings and heart so that I can know how great God is.:sun:

[Mashika]

Oh, no, to the contrary, as I see it, Zazen is precisely the expression of Zen eh ? What follows is from Dogen's Fukanzazengi :


Jesus.. no... There are so many things wrong on this one single statement, i dont even know how to begin explaining...

That's not Zen... In any possible way
Where did you learn these concepts?

Dogen is not Zen, it's Buddhism. This is what i meant by "bastardization" on a previous comment here, something which caused me tremendous frustation and sadness

Please read Jena's comment, and think about it deeply, the answer is therr about what Zen means

[Mashika]

Oh, no, to the contrary, as I see it, Zazen is precisely the expression of Zen eh ? What follows is from Dogen's Fukanzazengi :

Here we go:

"Zen is the meaning of the heavenly book. There are no words in the heavenly book. You must understand the meaning. Once you break it or say the words, the Zen will be lost. This is not this, which is not that, this old king is not this old king, today Xuefeng is no longer yesterday's Xuefeng, so you can only understand it right now, and it will expire. Someone caught the scene when the peach blossoms were in full bloom. A few days later, he had to take a friend of him to watch the peach blossoms in full bloom. The friend was so excited that he went into the peach forest. The peach blossoms were sparse and the bees and butterflies were sparse. This is called the transition of time, one moment and another moment, and Zen is in that moment. To know Zen, you must understand it in your heart. The real Zen can only know oneself, others don’t know it, just like dreaming. Only oneself sees the dream, and other people don’t know it and cannot prove it to you. It’s impossible to tell others what you have learned about Zen. It can’t be done. There is only one way, and that is to “convey the heart with the heart”. Even if they drink the same glass of water, Zhang San's feeling of drinking it is different from Li Si's feeling of drinking it, because the mentality is different, the demand state is different, and the consciousness is different, so the same food will vary from person to person. In the same sentence, some people were happy when they heard it, some were angry when they heard it, some were enthusiastic when they heard it, and some were discouraged when they heard it. This varies from person to person.

Since Zen is a heavenly book, then may I ask, what is a heavenly book? Where is the heavenly book?

Answer: The heavenly book is a book without words. All things and phenomena are from the heavenly book. In other words, the objective existence is the heavenly book, and the subjective existence is also the heavenly book. Where is the heavenly book? The book of heaven is in your eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, consciousness, and the great world.

Therefore, Zen is the most profound, the most extensive, the most profound, the most accessible, and the most universal book. To learn Zen and to understand Zen is actually to read the heavenly scriptures, the non-character books. A person who can read a book without words is a person who understands Zen. Such a person is a master-level person. Set law, ever-changing, shapeless, shape with fate, is agile and lively, he looks like an old man for a while, a naughty child for a while, a serious talk for a while, a talk and laughter for a while, a peaceful and peaceful for a while, and a combination of strength and softness, with equal emphasis on grace and power. Such a person has actually entered the Tao and attained the Tao. Those with profound attainments are the incarnation of Tao."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Zen, for me, is to read the Nature from my feelings and heart so that I can know how great God is.:sun:

Remember when we talked about how eastern culture has been completelty broken, missinterpreted and completely taken apart just to pick the nice things and fit them to western standars?

This seems like a great opportunity to find out how that works and how it affects what people believe of religions of the east :)

Very interested in seeing what comes out of this now

[Clear Light]

Oh, no, to the contrary, as I see it, Zazen is precisely the expression of Zen eh ? What follows is from Dogen's Fukanzazengi :


Jesus.. no... There are so many things wrong on this one single statement, i dont even know how to begin explaining...

That's not Zen... In any possible way
Where did you learn these concepts?

Dogen is not Zen, it's Buddhism. This is what i meant by "bastardization" on a previous comment here, something which caused me tremendous frustation and sadness

Please read Jena's comment, and think about it deeply, the answer is therr about what Zen means

Oh, it seems as if you're suggesting Dogen (the Founder of the Sōtō school of Zen in Japan) wasn't fundamental to the propagation of Zen eh ?

And if it is what you're saying, I'd reply that is as ridiculous as claiming the Dalai Lama has nothing to do with Tibetan Buddhism eh ? :facepalm:

[Mashika]

Oh, no, to the contrary, as I see it, Zazen is precisely the expression of Zen eh ? What follows is from Dogen's Fukanzazengi :


Jesus.. no... There are so many things wrong on this one single statement, i dont even know how to begin explaining...

That's not Zen... In any possible way
Where did you learn these concepts?

Dogen is not Zen, it's Buddhism. This is what i meant by "bastardization" on a previous comment here, something which caused me tremendous frustation and sadness

Please read Jena's comment, and think about it deeply, the answer is there about what Zen means

Oh, it seems as if you're suggesting Dogen (the Founder of the Sōtō school of Zen in Japan) wasn't fundamental to the propagation of Zen eh ?

And if it is what you're saying, I'd reply that is as ridiculous as claiming the Dalai Lama has nothing to do with Tibetan Buddhism eh ? :facepalm:

I''m not "suggesting" anything, i'm telling you that you don't know what's going on with all the Dogen stuff :)

Well i feel sad you don't understand what you just said, and the implications. That he was "Wasn fundamental to the propagation of Zen " doesn't mean much. It only means that it's how your country got to know about it! Your country is not the center of the world, specially not for things like Buddhism and Zen

Apparently, this is once again the "i'm from the west and i learned Zen from some books i read and now i can explain Zen and Buddhism and the difference to eastern people who were born into Buddhist families and have practiced the religion all their lives :facepalm:

I'm sorry did you not even bother to acknowledge and/or reply to Jena's post, as she was very cool about this, unlike me, and even took the time to explain some things to you in a very clear, detailed way

The Dogen Zen you speak up, is not what the original Zen is, is an adaptation to suit it better for westerners, without them having to completely drop their previous beliefs at once.

It was supposed to be an "introduction to Zen and Buddhism" it was never meant to be the end of it all, or the main source of knowledge. In fact Dogen picked up his book and writing from a previous book that existed decades and decades even before he was in the picture. A book from China. Then added to it, he did not even was the original creator of the concept you believe represents "Zen", he added from existing texts both from Buddhism and Zen, created a compilation of "Zen and Buddhism knowledge" and then went to the west and thought it so that people will know about eastern culture. Not as the final "Bible of Zen", just as a way to let them know these things exists!

If you think "Dogen Zen" is true Zen, it is because you don't have more extended education about it. It was never meant to be the what you guys made of it.

It is a shame that you broke it so much, that even his message and purpose in life has been thrown away in the name of assuming you can explain to Buddhists their own religion, when you have only seen like 10% of it so far, based on your own comments here and assuming (or suggesting in part ) Dogen some kind of 'father of Zen'

Not even in Japan he was, because he went to China to learn Buddhism and Zen, and there were other's too, he just happened to be the one that focused on importing the knowledge to the western world

I'm sorry, this is not a conversation i keep going into, your disregard and looking down on what i said, which is almost arrogant in nature, with the "how could you know more than me" attitude, is not something i can deal with right now

Some time ago, I asked people how would they feel if i were to explain their own culture to themselves, and attempt to laugh them out when they would tell me i'm wrong in my misconceptions. They felt offended when i told them i knew more about their culture than them, when i tested them by explaining wrong very common things and making fun of it. And just now, you are doing just the same

I noticed that some people in the west, learn about Buddhism or Zen later in life, or after their are 20/30 or so, and they have a great deal of issues trying to understand the concepts and drop the previous ones. So instead they merge them all into a new thing that doesn't represent either culture. And reject all the original values and concepts and teachings, because it's easier to break them apart and get the things you like, while dropping all the things that are too difficult to understand or grasp.

That's what causes bastardization of cultures. Don't do that!

Anyway, i'm not even supposed to be here, but i made an exception just to post this, as i truly was without words that this was said, with a perfect straight, serious intent



Oh, it seems as if you're suggesting Dogen (the Founder of the Sōtō school of Zen in Japan) wasn't fundamental to the propagation of Zen eh ?

How did you write this word? Sōtō.. Did you copy it from somewhere else? I would just written Soto since my keyboard doesn't have those characters, It comes to mind because you said Dogen, instead of "Dōgen Zenji" or even more correct maybe "Dōgen Kigen" just before writing 'Sōtō'

Zen and Buddhism, the original ones, are completely not influenced by Dogen's Zen, as much as he may have been the found of a school on Japan, in Russia, China and other countries in the east that practice Buddhism, we mostly practice the old, Pre-Dogen religion.. AKA (the original version that wasn't westernized)

Just so you know, you are displacing the original teachings, and replacing them with ones that are easier for you to understand, breaking it all badly. And also, you forgot, or nobody thought you a very primary lesson "That you must forget all your previous understanding and conceptions, and become a blank mind, like a child, so that the true concepts of Buddhism and Zen can enter your mind freely, without preconceptions"

I guess i'm going to have tell my teachers and parents that they wasted the past 20+ years educating me on this, i can't be taken seriously because obviously an "Intro to Zen and Buddhism" book you read in a year or two clearly replaces 20 years of education on it. If i had known, i would have waited until i was 22 and then spend 50 dollars on that book, instead of spending who know how many years learning it all from teachers and sometimes breaking my head bad trying to grasp what they were truly explaining or teaching by "being" and "suffering"

You thinking that because all you know and understand is the small subset Dogen promoted in the western world (as an introduction) you know and can tell other people what Zen is? That's so arrogant and contrary to all Buddhism represents

Instead of listening and attempting to compare our views and understand that we may have other things we've seen than what you have seen (because we were born in Buddhist families and there's have not been a single day when we did not practice it and learned it, since being toddlers) it does look like you will try to nitpick and find anything, even the smallest detail, to try to prove everyone wrong

And that's so pointless, i can't even try anymore

I have to logout and go sleep again, will be not seeing you guys for some time now

I truly hope you give Jena's post a chance, there's a lot of stuff to learn there, even if it seems odd or incompatible to your current views. She's a very experienced Buddhist, way more than a lot of people, she just doesn't speak much about it, but she is. Trust me

Poka Poka

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Masha

[xidaijena]

I truly hope you give Jena's post a try, there's a lot of stuff there, even if it seems odd or incompatible to your current views, she's a very experienced Buddhist, way more than a lot of people, trust me

Poka Poka

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Masha

Masha, I believe you had used many brain energy or spiritual energy to reply this post or other post.

Take care.

It may cost your life unless you are very happy or fun to reply every post.

You are wise and seem to read a lot of books? or have many experiences?

I'm not cool. I just share Xuefeng's thoughts and let other to read and think. To be honest, I welcome others to discuss with me but all Chinese people don't know how to discuss such kind "wisdom" from Xuefeng.

I am not a Buddist. I seem to be a Christian. But you are right. all the chanyuan members in the Second Home Community are Buddists. I am the exception. This is why I was Banned by Xuefeng. I like to care others and "bite" some bad thoughts. But Xuefeng doesn't allow me or any chanyuan member to do such kind things...lol

Take care, dear sister. I want to say again.

Hugs to you.:flower::flower::flower:

[Mashika]

I truly hope you give Jena's post a try, there's a lot of stuff there, even if it seems odd or incompatible to your current views, she's a very experienced Buddhist, way more than a lot of people, trust me

Poka Poka

-

Masha

Masha, I believe you had used many brain energy or spiritual energy to reply this post or other post.

Take care.

It may cost your life unless you are very happy or fun to reply every post.

You are wise and seem to read a lot of books? or have many experiences?

I'm not cool. I just share Xuefeng's thoughts and let other to read and think. To be honest, I welcome others to discuss with me but all Chinese people don't know how to discuss such kind "wisdom" from Xuefeng.

I am not a Buddist. I seem to be a Christian. But you are right. all the chanyuan members in the Second Home Community are Buddists. I am the exception. This is why I was Banned by Xuefeng. I like to care others and "bite" some bad thoughts. But Xuefeng doesn't allow me or any chanyuan member to do such kind things...lol

Take care, dear sister. I want to say again.

Hugs to you.:flower::flower::flower:

But you are a Buddhist, just like me, at the core, we just don't practice it anymore

I'll say a story about it :)

I was born into a mixed family, my mom Russian, my dad Japanese. She's an orthodox hard core member, like most of my Russian family. My dad is a very hard ways fixed Buddhist, so imagine growing up on that lol

So i learned both religions at the same time, with very conflicting views and lots of issues. And at around 11 or so, i had way too many questions and i mostly disliked Orthodox church because they did not have answers, or ways to find them on my own, they did not teach me how to "learn from myself", all they wanted me was to follow their rules and be like them, don't question and have blind faith

But Buddhism and Zen showed me a different road, where i can keep growing beyond what a book says, or even not consider the book at all and find more answers in some afternoon sleeping on the floor in the woods. That's what i learned

So i quit Orthodox church, in a very bad way, i was impossible to handle by the preachers and i was 'expelled' one day, 'in shame' they said, but to be, i felt proud

I don't believe in organized religion, but i do believe in God, and i don't think God, or Jesus, even wanted a church like the one that was created, he rejected that, and then i questioned?

Why there is a church when Jesus was very Zen like and avoided that structure and instead went to the rivers and fields and talked to people and eat with them, all equal?

And there was no answer, instead the "father" slapped me and told me i was an horrible child who did not deserve heaven, or something like that, in anger and terrible hate. Because he failed to explain correctly and i had put him in shame in front of the school :)

I still feel prod about that much, indeed :)

That's how i know you are too a Buddhist, even if you don't practice it, and you know that Jesus and Buddha, have lots of things in common and are very much compatible in most ways

I don't see much difference between a Buddhist and someone who follows the original Jesus teachings

"Different words, but same teachings and feelings" :flower:



Masha, I believe you had used many brain energy or spiritual energy to reply this post or other post.

Never learned how not to, but we're here and impossible to change now, that's how i am :)

Hugs to you as well! :flower::flower::flower:

[xidaijena]

Dogen is not Zen, it's Buddhism.


Oh, it seems as if you're suggesting Dogen (the Founder of the Sōtō school of Zen in Japan) wasn't fundamental to the propagation of Zen eh ?

And if it is what you're saying, I'd reply that is as ridiculous as claiming the Dalai Lama has nothing to do with Tibetan Buddhism eh ? :facepalm:

Hi Clear Light,

I agree that Dogen is not Zen.

Dogen is preaching the Zen but not the Zen.

Can you understand what I say?

Zen is that nothing can express but only feel in heart.

I think Masha mean, Zen is everything, not only Dogen this person.

We are all in the universe of ZEN.

Like Buddha, he is also preaching the Zen but we can't say Buddha is ZEN.

Hope you can get me.

Have a nice day. ;)

[xidaijena]

I truly hope you give Jena's post a try, there's a lot of stuff there, even if it seems odd or incompatible to your current views, she's a very experienced Buddhist, way more than a lot of people, trust me

Poka Poka

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Masha

Masha, I believe you had used many brain energy or spiritual energy to reply this post or other post.

Take care.

It may cost your life unless you are very happy or fun to reply every post.

You are wise and seem to read a lot of books? or have many experiences?

I'm not cool. I just share Xuefeng's thoughts and let other to read and think. To be honest, I welcome others to discuss with me but all Chinese people don't know how to discuss such kind "wisdom" from Xuefeng.

I am not a Buddist. I seem to be a Christian. But you are right. all the chanyuan members in the Second Home Community are Buddists. I am the exception. This is why I was Banned by Xuefeng. I like to care others and "bite" some bad thoughts. But Xuefeng doesn't allow me or any chanyuan member to do such kind things...lol

Take care, dear sister. I want to say again.

Hugs to you.:flower::flower::flower:

But you are a Buddhist, just like me, at the core, we just don't practice it anymore

I'll say a story about it :)

I was born into a mixed family, my mom Russian, my dad Japanese. She's an orthodox hard core member, like most of my Russian family. My dad is a very hard ways fixed Buddhist, so imagine growing up on that lol

So i learned both religions at the same time, with very conflicting views and lots of issues. And at around 11 or so, i had way too many questions and i mostly disliked Orthodox church because they did not have answers, or ways to find them on my own, they did not teach me how to "learn from myself", all they wanted me was to follow their rules and be like them, don't question and have blind faith

But Buddhism and Zen showed me a different road, where i can keep growing beyond what a book says, or even not consider the book at all and find more answers in some afternoon sleeping on the floor in the woods. That's what i learned

So i quit Orthodox church, in a very bad way, i was impossible to handle by the preachers and i was 'expelled' one day, 'in shame' they said, but to be, i felt proud

I don't believe in organized religion, but i do believe in God, and i don't think God, or Jesus, even wanted a church like the one that was created, he rejected that, and then i questioned?

Why there is a church when Jesus was very Zen like and avoided that structure and instead went to the rivers and fields and talked to people and eat with them, all equal?

And there was no answer, instead the "father" slapped me and told me i was an horrible child who did not deserve heaven, or something like that, in anger and terrible hate. Because he failed to explain correctly and i had put him in shame in front of the school :)

I still feel prod about that much, indeed :)

That's how i know you are too a Buddhist, even if you don't practice it, and you know that Jesus and Buddha, have lots of things in common and are very much compatible in most ways

I don't see much difference between a Buddhist and someone who follows the original Jesus teachings

"Different words, but same teachings and feelings" :flower:



Masha, I believe you had used many brain energy or spiritual energy to reply this post or other post.

Never learned how not to, but we're here and impossible to change now, that's how i am :)

Hugs to you as well! :flower::flower::flower:

Oh my, you are truly a chanyuan celestial!

No wonder we share a lot same in some posts.

I like you, indeed.

Me too. My mother loves me but she only can beat me some for my husband.

Xuefeng never beats me but always writes articles to abuse my arrogant...lol

So we are all lovely creations from the Greatest Creator. :inlove:

[greybeard]

A course in Miracles quote.
Know that the moment you take up a position, you are identifying with an illusion.

I see it simple after years of following this and that.
Only "God" is and I am that.
Even if I done as yet find that to be my perception.
Language does not do it justice.
Love Chris

[Clear Light]

And also, you forgot, or nobody thought you a very primary lesson "That you must forget all your previous understanding and conceptions, and become a blank mind, like a child, so that the true concepts of Buddhism and Zen can enter your mind freely, without preconceptions"

Ah, instead of saying "blank" I would use the word Empty, because as I'm sure for most reading this thread, it goes without saying that Emptiness and Zen are inseparable eh ?

But to WHO do all these Concepts belong ? The "self", the "ego" is thoroughly deconstructed in Buddhism such that it's in practice, I suggest, when it becomes clear there is no-one at all ... the illusion of a "self" is seen through suddenly ... that's the point of practice eh ?

It's why Zen is absolutely beyond ALL concepts AS it's not concerned with the Contents-of-Mind (as thoughts, perceptions, sensations) as they are ALL empty ... likewise consider HOW the Reflections-in-a-Mirror can never become the Mirror, but what seems to happen (during practice) is there is a sudden "shift" to being the Mirror itself eh ? At least, it's what happens here !


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[Mashika]

And also, you forgot, or nobody thought you a very primary lesson "That you must forget all your previous understanding and conceptions, and become a blank mind, like a child, so that the true concepts of Buddhism and Zen can enter your mind freely, without preconceptions"

Ah, instead of saying "blank" I would use the word Empty, because as I'm sure for most reading this thread, it goes without saying that Emptiness and Zen are inseparable eh ?

But to WHO do all these Concepts belong ? The "self", the "ego" is thoroughly deconstructed in Buddhism such that it's in practice, I suggest, when it becomes clear there is no-one at all ... the illusion of a "self" is seen through suddenly ... that's the point of practice eh ?

It's why Zen is absolutely beyond ALL concepts AS it's not concerned with the Contents-of-Mind (as thoughts, perceptions, sensations) as they are ALL empty ... likewise consider HOW the Reflections-in-a-Mirror can never become the Mirror, but what seems to happen (during practice) is there is a sudden "shift" to being the Mirror itself eh ? At least, it's what happens here !


47455

When you had a teacher that influences you much, like Soto people tend to do, and you practice and practice what you were thought, you become equal or more than your teacher

Then the mirror shows who your teacher created

That's why quoting too much the masters and teachers is bad, because you end up becoming a smaller version of them. You never get to write your own Koans, or develop your own thinking, if you always find "the right quote at the right time". That only means you are a diminished version of the teachers, because you will always look for the higher knowledge there, and never completely break apart and find your, higher knowledge

How can someone surpass the master, if all they do is quote his wisdom and writings?

Can a runner go faster than his teacher, if he only listens to the stories of how he won the olympics, and never tries to find better ways to train so that he can go beyond his master's limit?

That's why books are no good after a while, they enclose you mind in a limited set of understandings, the ones your master achieve until he died, after that, if you just keep going through them and repeating the same words, then you are never going to escape it

That's the understanding and values that were shared to me while growing up. Learn all you can from them, understand it and apply it to you, so much that it's in you all the time. Then throw all the words away and never go back and reference or quote them. Then, true discernment and understanding will come your way, because you absorbed their knowledge, but never converted into them, or let them become in their way, you are not a shadow at the feet of the master

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I was hoping you would have addressed all the historical inaccuracies about Dogen and Soto i posted above, specially about how he actually *never* went to the west or even tried to promote Soto Zen on any western country, or how he died way long before the first westerner ever heard about Zen or Buddhism, but you skipped all over that :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

When the Soto school started accepting westerners, they did not teach real Zen to the students, and once, i forgot his name, but the first student that tried to import the teachings to the US, asked "why?" the teachers said "It's too difficult for them" or something on those lines?

So it was simplified, and the reason it was too difficult to grasp for western students, is that they never tried to get rid of their preconceptions, and instead always had this mindset of "let's find how this can fit in my already existing culture and knowledge". Which is why it turned terrible bad in lots and lots of ways

When a kid is born, the mind is not empty, it's blank of understanding of the current culture he's living in, but is not "empty". Have you ever seen a kid go to "breathing" or "seeing" class after they were born, so they can learn how to breath or see? They already know, and they breath the correct way, and they 'can see' things for what they are. IF you lose that, then you have to start again some time later in life

That's exactly the same as Buddhism and Zen, the principles are always there, but you have to be a blank in your mind about those understandings. Not empty, because then there is nothing, but no the kind of "no thing" that Zen is about. A person who can't breath on their own and needs a respirator, is "empty" of their consciousness, therefore they 'don't know how to breath' anymore. But a person who forgets how to breath from the chest, immediately starts breathing from the stomach, like a baby, because it was there all along, they just forgot they knew how

There are no more Zen Masters, since very long ago, is it because there can't, or "there must not be more"

If your teacher dies without reaching enlightenment, can you look at where he failed and find how to overcome it? Or are his words sacred and immutable. If you can't say "i know why and i have a way to overcome it" then you are inside orgnized religion, where the words are sacred and more important than reaching the final goal of Nirvana. If you going to keep repeating the 'sacred words' forever and set your mind to the idea that you must respect and never try to shame or overcome the master, then you also will never be enlightened

So, are the no more Enlightened Masters because there can't be a new one, or because 'there must not be a new one'?

The last master died without placing new masters, and since the only way to become a master is by a previous master ordering you into that level, then "there are no masters anymore", so how we would get a new master? Only by overcoming the last one. Who ordered the first master into that position?

That's the difference between organized religion and Zen, if you are going to follow rules and guidelines and never attempt to go beyond what the sacred writings offer, then you will also never reach enlightement, or be a master, which completely defeats the purpose of being a Buddhist in the first place...

You can only read 'the book' so many times, what's next?

Anyway, another long post, sorry about it

I truly truly going to have to leave you guys for a while, so this now is my final post for some time

Take care and good bye

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Masha

[greybeard]

ARCHBISHOP Carlo Maria Viganò - listen to what he says

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vcn9wfPDIWzB/

[greybeard]

Bhagavad Gītā Chapter 11 | Vision of the Universal Form


Chapter 11 of the Bhagavad Gītā in Sanskrit with text in transliteration and English translation; Krishna reveals His Divine Form to Arjuna
[N.B 16:59 there is a pronunciation error, it should be prakīrtyā (not prakrītyā)]

The beautiful book of the Bhagavad Gita I am using is from https://www.vediccosmos.com


This video is sponsored by Pushpa Khatri and it is dedicated with love to her nephews Ashutosh & Kush Khatri

🎵produced by Auburn Jam Music, UK


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiLduVH8PGQ

[greybeard]

Meditation with an authentic photo of Mahavatar Babaji



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PsQE3SotWs

[Wind]

tPDfbAbGLNw

[PurpleLama]

If you stub your toe hard enough, you cry out and it might even bleed. You grab the toe.

[Wind]

zHSB3uP9XFo

[kanishk]

https://sripada-srivallabha.org/_media/images/datta_anasuya.jpg?w=200&tok=9f995e https://rukminim1.flixcart.com/image/416/416/k0tw13k0/painting/z/y/s/cw-811-483-p-12x18-catalogwala-original-imafkgtzgtzzptkn.jpeghttps://1.bp.blogspot.com/-p52Cl7VGE58/YBY6LBoXucI/AAAAAAAAWyU/e9hsoOSG_iow4Fm8PkRlpJ9Vv2-iBQ0ugCLcBGAsYHQ/s16000/anusuya.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bbu0zph1FPs/UUdE6mGVB0I/AAAAAAAAAFU/rBnkJyCyiWU/s640/dattaparampara.jpg


Some Chapters I found of SHRIPAD SHRIVALLABH CHARITAMRUT dictated in English language and with animation

Total Chapters 1 to 53


Chapter 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJICjLU2UbM
Chaper 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ADu4QnLkAc
Chapter 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87wXaSiXOIs
Chapter 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hSYNj5J2LU
Chapter 6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrQCnku62QE
Chapter 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T9_EwstJpY
Chapter 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zVd4LG08Ks
Chapter 9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hJGZ4bxXx0
Chapter 10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GiALS0z3vs
Chapter 11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICjSJeYgh_Q
Chapter 12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW62uYOEzkQ
Chapter 13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKUwxDQov2g
Chapter 14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZhK9VKy0pQ
Chapter 15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPsVaapWawM
Chapter 16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BLKqWoTG_I
Chapter 17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxxBExoCH_M
Chapter 18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRofjXlM_No
Chapter 19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM8ZxBC8ZSM
Chapter 20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWUielNDvD4
Chapter 21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T64vvHX5Rk


But I listen to this Marathi language dictation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiFg9_bNWxo

[kanishk]

Following is the extract from the Chapter 4 from 'Sreepada Sreevallabha Charitaamrutam (Divine Biography of Sripada Srivallabha – an Ecstatic Elixir) (https://mega.nz/folder/53BQQbIC#t17Ev1st2hPU-qrYapRcLg)'. I have also underlined some keywords. Here:-


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Naming of a foreigner by Swami and His grace on him
After remaining in dhyana for some moments, He called Virupaksha and said “My Dear ! Virupaksha! One white man from Germany reached Kurungadda overcoming many difficulties for my darshan. This golden divine palace cannot be seen by others. So he is searching for me. You go and bring him here.” I wondered how a white man could come to this difficult place. Virupaksha brought that white man. He became extremely happy with the darshan of Sripada Srivallabha. He held Sricharana’s feet and cried heavily. Sripada lifted him up. The nectar of grace was showering from His eyes. Sricharana’s form had in it the limitless power and limitless love. His heart had the love of one crore mothers. Srivallabha addressed him as ‘John’. He looked into John’s eyes with piercing looks. It appeared that He was giving him initiation through eyes. After sometime, He touched John’s forehead between the eye brows. With that sacred touch, he had a divine ecstatic pleasure. Then Swami told all those present there to look into the sky. In the sky one big number appeared with divine glow in ‘Dev Nagara’ type. He said that it was the ‘Jnana Number’ of Sri Chitra Gupta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chitragupta). Sri Charana said that the number would become most important in the future centuries. The number is 170141183460469231731687303715884105727 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Mersenne_number). Sripada said ‘This is the number of the universe. The meaning and the inner meaning of this number will be understood by people who try to understand the nature of ‘padartha’ (the matter) according to the levels of their intellectual state.’

Sripada was talking in Telugu. But John understood it. John was questioning in German language. Sripada was answering him in Telugu. What a wonderful thing! In the vicinity of Sripada, every moment was filled with His ‘leelas’ and ‘mahimas’.

All the knowledge and scholarship are at the feet of Sricharana. Sricharana said “when I was speaking in ‘Trilinga language’ (telugu), John understood it in ‘German language’. Each word I spoke was being translated into German and John was able to hear. There is nothing which I cannot do for the sake of my devotees. There is nothing, which I cannot lift or there is no problem which I cannot solve for them. People, who believe me by mind, action and speech, leaving all other dharmas behind, are really blessed people. When my grace is flowing on you, all the other Shaktis in this nature give positive auspicious vibrations. You can take it as my promise. There is nothing which I cannot get in all these fourteen ‘Bhuvanas’. Even if you are following your own righteous path, if you remember My name, I will protect you like the eye lid to the eye. I am the embodiment of love. You will know Me through love only.


The star Dhruva (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhruva) is important for the constellation of sapta rishis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saptarishi). Leant how Dhruva got Dhruva ‘padam’ (position). He did ‘Tapas’ for Srimannarayana with a wish to sit in his father’s lap. After having darshan of Srimannarayana, he lost the desire to sit in the lap of his mortal father. Srimannarayana gave him the place of ‘Dhruva Padam’. He also made him sit in His lap. Jagat Prabhu (The Lord of Universe) graced him by giving His lap to sit when the child actually desired deeply to sit in his mortal father’s lap.

In Kaliyugam, Dhruva is Yesu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yesu) Prabhu
In Kaliyugam, Dhruva took birth as ‘Yesu Prabhu’. He believed that God was his father. I will grace you in the same thought in which you worship me. Sri Vasavi Kanyakamba gave Her power to ‘Marie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_mother_of_Jesus)’ the ‘sacred soul’ (pavitra atma). Dhruva was born as ‘Yesu prabhu’ to ‘Marie’ even when she was a virgin. Jesus Christ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus) was not born by the union of father and mother. Learn that Jesus Christ called Srimannarayana only as his father repeatedly. Srimannarayana is none other than Sripada Srivallabha, who is present in front of you. Oh! Siddha Vysya Munis! Chant the Vedas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedas) in the presence of My sister Vasavambika. With the sound of your sacred chanting of Vedas, the result of bad deeds of people in the coming centuries can be destroyed. Sri Nagareswara, along with Vasavambika likes the chanting of Vedas very much. The white man, who is in our presence by chance, will be born in the next birth in the house of good Brahmins, who are Veda scholars in Himalaya region. He becomes a yogi and reach ‘Shambala’ village. You drive away the evil powers present in the polluted air with the sound of sacred Vedas.” Thus Sripada told them.

Siddha Vysya Munis’ ‘veda ghosha’ was completed. Sri Vasavi Kanyakambica, Sri Nagareswara, Virupaksha, the Kusuma Shreshti couple and Siddha Vysya Munis entered the ‘agni’ and disappeared. Sripada Vallabha blessed John. John said, ‘It is good to have a book on Sricharana’s life history’. Swami said, “In the coming centuries in accordance with your wish, ‘Sripada Srivallabha Charitamrutham’ will come in German language also.”(link to German and English translation of Charitamrutam (https://mega.nz/folder/53BQQbIC#t17Ev1st2hPU-qrYapRcLg)) He assured John and sent him. He ordered me to enter the gross body again. Saying so, He went to take bath in ‘prayag’ confluence of waters. He disappeared. ‘My Dear! Today i.e. 25-5-1336 Friday, is a sacred day. Shankar! Tell me the experience you had in Dhyana’.

The speciality of Shiridi Saibaba’s manifestation
I said, ‘Oh! Most respected Swami! When I was meditating I saw a sanyasi (monk) in the attire of a Muslim. He was often uttering ‘Allah Malik (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sai_Baba_of_Shirdi)’. He was sitting under a neem tree. He must be of 16 years age. He told an old person who came for his darshan, ‘I am a Nanak Pandhee Musalman’. To a different person, he said, ‘I am a good Brahmin born in Bharadwaj Gothra.’ He told another person, ‘This is my ‘Gurusthan’ and people who worship here on Thursdays and Fridays will get good luck.’ Swami! Throughout my meditation, I had the darshan of that young sanyasi only. I did not get the darshan of Sripada Srivallabha. Some people came and started digging at a place under the neem tree where that young sanyasi sat. There was a small cave inside. Inside that, four lamps were glowing intensely on the four sides. After some time, that young sanyasi came there, got the cave opening closed and said, ‘This is my Gurusthan. Nobody should open it.’ Swami! I did not understand the wish of Srivallabha in granting me this type of darshan in meditation.

The Story of Yavanas
Palani Swami said, ‘My Dear disciples! The nature of Srivallabha cannot be imagined. One cannot say that his ‘leelas’ (plays) will be like this or like that. His wish is to coordinate all the dharmas and traditions in the world and merge them in sanatana dharma. He only will establish the sanathana dharma in the whole universe at the end of ‘Kaliyugam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga)’. Sricharana told John, ‘Yahova (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah)’ means ‘I am’. That is the form of Parabrahma. All the consciousness reflecting in the universe is the consciousness of Jesus Christ who is popular as the son of ‘God’. The consciousness purified is the same as sacred flowing grace which gives peace and happiness. All those three forms are mine. As a result of your pure love you could get my darshan which is very difficult to get otherwise.’ Similarly the ‘Yavana (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Yavana) Dharma’ also is an inherent part of Datta Tatwam. A mahatma by name ‘Maha Mathi’ was a devotee of formless Makkheswar. He used to call God as ‘Allah’. He saw all the seven heavens. He wanted to see ‘Allah’. But he saw only his reflection. The yavana sanyasi you saw was a Brahmin who was born in Bharadwaja gothra. He lost his parents in child hood. He was brought up by a Muslim phakir (https://www.britannica.com/topic/fakir) and learnt Muslim dharmas. He learnt Hindu dharmas by staying with a Hindu Mahatma. He learnt ‘kriya yogam’ from a great yogi in Varanasi. He met a Datta avadhoota and asked for silver coins. As his ‘tin’ was not filling, that Avadhuta put two ‘khajur fruits’ in it. Then he was satisfied. With that the chaitanyam of Datta flowed into him. Later, he came to Dhee Silanagaram. That was a small village present in a forest area. When it was a thick forest, Sripada Srivallabha sat on a stone there and meditated. If anyone does meditation sitting on it, he would get wonderful results. In the underground house you saw under the neem tree, Sripada Srivallabha did ‘tapas’ for 12 years. During those twelve years, he got the power of tapas of 12,000 years. Srivallabha’s body got transformed into a 12 thousand years old one. The whole cave was occupied by his jatajutam (hair). His eyebrows also became thick. To see his eyes, one should lift the eye brows with difficulty. Sri Charana gave that fruit of ‘tapas’ to that young sanyasi. When that young monk was about 4 years old, Sricharana started ‘tapas’ in that cave in his hidden form. When that sanyasi became 16 years old, He completed twelve years of Tapas. My Dear! These incidents which I am telling are going to happen in the coming centuries. They are not the present incidents. Sripada will manifest with the name of Narasimha Saraswathi and will be there for 80 years with that name and form. Later he will be in ‘taponishta’ incognito in kadalivanam for 300 years. Later he will take the name of Swami Samardha in ‘Prajna puram’, and merge in the Mallikarjuna Lingam in Srisailam. But the ‘yavana’ (Muslim) sanyasi whom you saw will also be in an old aged form. He will put His chaitanyam in the sanyasi and make him equal to Him.
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[Wind]

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[greybeard]

Meditation: Nothing Exists Apart from God



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x63KDsRoZcE

[greybeard]

The Pinnacle of Nondual Understanding: Rupert Spira

Its all here
Chris

scienceandnonduality
205K subscribers
In a welcome return to the time-honored practice of teachers commenting on the sacred texts of the past, Rupert Spira weaves a masterful commentary between the lines of the little-known book Know Yourself by the 13th century Sufi Awhad al-din Balyani. With the clarity and insight we have come to expect from Rupert, he gives us a foretaste of his book The Nature of Consciousness, and reminds us that, as is true of the misunderstandings of other world religions, the popular mythology is far removed from the realization of the founder of Islam, whose teaching was always the oneness of being.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a78jhhXtXgI

[Ewan]

The Rules For Being Human

(Source Unknown)

1. You will receive a body. You may like it or hate it, but it will be yours for the entire period this time round.

2. You will learn lessons. You are enrolled in a full-time informal school called life. Every day in this school you will have the opportunity to learn lessons. You may like the lessons or call them irrelevant and stupid.

3. There are no mistakes, only lessons. Growth is a process of trial and error, experimentation. The "failed" experiments are as much a part of the process as the experiment that ultimately "works".

4. A lesson is repeated until learned. A lesson will be presented to you in various forms until you have learned it. When you have learned it, you can then go on to the next lesson.

5. Learning lessons does not end. There is no part of life that does not contain its lessons. If you are alive, there are lessons to be learned.

6. "There" is no better than "here". When your "there" has become a "here" you will simply obtain another "there" that will again look better than "here".

7. Others are merely mirrors of you. You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects to you something you love or hate in yourself.

8. What you make of your life is up to you. You have all the tools and resources you need. What you do with them is up to you. ... The choice is yours.

9. Your answers lie inside you. The answers to life's questions lie inside you. All you need to do is look, listen and trust.

10. You will forget this.

[greybeard]

Vedantic Spirituality Part 1 Swami Sarvapriyananda


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F82CPSxJjjs


Of interest here

Advaita Vedanta! (The Greatest Philosophy on Earth?)

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?108625-Advaita-Vedanta---The-Greatest-Philosophy-on-Earth--&p=1314602&viewfull=1#post1314602

[greybeard]

Vedantic Spirituality Part 2 Swami Sarvapriyananda



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0tXs1oiWo8

[O Donna]

The Rules For Being Human

(Source Unknown)

1. You will receive a body. You may like it or hate it, but it will be yours for the entire period this time round.

2. You will learn lessons. You are enrolled in a full-time informal school called life. Every day in this school you will have the opportunity to learn lessons. You may like the lessons or call them irrelevant and stupid.

3. There are no mistakes, only lessons. Growth is a process of trial and error, experimentation. The "failed" experiments are as much a part of the process as the experiment that ultimately "works".

4. A lesson is repeated until learned. A lesson will be presented to you in various forms until you have learned it. When you have learned it, you can then go on to the next lesson.

5. Learning lessons does not end. There is no part of life that does not contain its lessons. If you are alive, there are lessons to be learned.

6. "There" is no better than "here". When your "there" has become a "here" you will simply obtain another "there" that will again look better than "here".

7. Others are merely mirrors of you. You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects to you something you love or hate in yourself.

8. What you make of your life is up to you. You have all the tools and resources you need. What you do with them is up to you. ... The choice is yours.

9. Your answers lie inside you. The answers to life's questions lie inside you. All you need to do is look, listen and trust.

10. You will forget this.

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In spacetime that's ebb and flow.

[greybeard]

The Way of Chuang Tzu by Thomas Merton | FULL AUDIOBOOK


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpRtmwLcRqA&t=5149s

[greybeard]

Eckhart Tolle - Is This Being Covered Up Worldwide?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB0veuSuD4w

Eckhart video removed from u tube--surprise surprise!!!
No one dare stray from the "narrative" One religion founded by New world Order.

It says This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Eckhart Teachings.

May be so!!!
Chris

[greybeard]

Alan Watts - The Words Of Zhuang Zhou {NO AD BREAKS}


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu0hAhJR9Gw

[Wind]

Is it serious, doctor?

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[greybeard]

Papaji Jayanti Day ~ The Heart of Awareness (Silent Sitting with Mooji)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOtwRw-iAHs

[greybeard]

Adyashanti - The Experience of No Self


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQT6FWOmkOU

[greybeard]

Devī Sūktam | Divine Feminine | Shakti | Tantra Meditation | Gaiea Sanskrit sings from home



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkLUfa3n6i0

[Mashika]

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[Wind]

Grace is everything.
Grace is another name
for what we are.
Grace is indefinable,
the ever-perfect, timeless.
It is that in which
the apparent timeful plays
as names and forms
in their brief dance as life.
We are the experience and
simultaneously the witness
of this experience.
Grace is that which calls you
away from the chaos,
away from the noise of the world.
Grace is the same as peace,
but there is no peacekeeper
nor anyone being silent.
Grace is the breath of the Self.

~ Mooji

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[RunningDeer]

.......http://paula.avalonlibrary.net/smilies/balloon1.gif
With heart,
Paula ♡

https://i.imgur.com/sR07Amz.jpg

[Mashika]

If you think you know something, then you don't know anything. And if you think, and realise you don't anything, then you have become aware of your ignorance, which is a good amount of wisdom to start your path

But the moment you think you have learned something and have become wiser, by understanding your ignorance, then just right there you have betrayed yourself, and become ignorant again, you are nothing but someone who doesn't know anything about anything, once again

You never know things, you are, but if you think "Now i know these things, i have grown" then you are fool and know nothing

Your path next and from here, is to figure out how stupid you are, and fail so much that you will hate your ignorance for several years. Then you will know things, unless you think you know things

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And with that i was let free from my studies and left to wander on my own around life :)

I'm a very stupid and ignorant person since then :P

[Mashika]

Something very important i forgot to quote is this

Final words to me where

"The constant problem with you, is that you think, you always think too much, you are so dumb that you always have to think about things"

LMFAO! Self explaining it is

[greybeard]

IF YOU THINK YOU KNOW...YOU DON'T KNOW - Nisargadatta Maharaj - Shower of Grace Part Five - lomakayu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nsgfGWxNUQ&t=17s

[O Donna]

Something very important i forgot to quote is this

Final words to me where

"The constant problem with you, is that you think, you always think too much, you are so dumb that you always have to think about things"

LMFAO! Self explaining it is

Think too little
Think too much

The constant is thought (from pillar to post)


All manifestation, boiled down, is thought (bubble).

No thought, no nothing.

A lot of thought went into reality, it seems.

Postmodern tree of life (+/-) ?

https://www.pikpng.com/pngl/m/58-583165_tree-clipart-social-media-social-media-marketing-tree.png

[greybeard]

Perfect Brilliant Stillness

Page 162.

When you are given the unspeakable grace, the unbelievable, undeserved, unearned gift, of being able to see, to notice, what you are thinking is an opinion, or is something by which you identify yourself, the gift of being able to listen to yourself, then stop.
Honour the gift by stopping. And let it drop. The opinion. Let it drop.
The bit of identity contained in every statement about yourself, every comment, involving yourself, let it drop. Every question coming from yourself Let it drop.
Let the grace of this moment of catching yourself; having an opinion, talking as an I;
L et that grace stop you.

Im spending time reading this book and listening to the Audio.
David has some humour, which I enjoy.
He does not waver --there is no we in One. --no other.
The mind can not take this in.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmeBRg_nino

[Ankle Biter]

.
Walking off into the forest .... there I become the forest. Immersion of my awareness into blue... & there I become a single drop and also the entire ocean. Casting my eye into the universe too, of course this feels like home too, since we are nothing if not star dust as well.

qqUVXVBwGgA

[greybeard]

What Is Our True Self? — Let’s Find Out


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGM2XBE3tbY&t=224s

[greybeard]

Mike Conners -- Free Will and Enlightenment


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZHwF2ilPkM

[greybeard]

THE ULTIMATE MEDICINE - PART TWO - Nisargadatta Maharaj - lomakayu



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpoWBpsPVWw

[Eva2]

MASTERING THE ART OF BEING AWAKE AND BEING HUMAN
The true spiritual journey, especially in today’s world, requires each of us to become a master. It is no longer enough to seek the master, to sit at the feet of the guru, to worship an external authority. You must become the master!
The master is both Zorba the Greek and Buddha the Enlightened — a “Zorba the Buddha.” A master can dance on the razor’s edge of having realized their true nature as unshakable consciousness and yet be fully immersed in a shaky world. A master knows “I am not the body” and yet can function as a body. A master has transcended the ego-self and yet has a sense of self — because without a self, how could he or she function in the three-dimensional world? Without a sense of self, you wouldn’t be able to communicate, or cross the road, or go shopping (or hunting) for your food — you wouldn’t survive.
So how can you be IN the world, but not OF the world?
This question is profound. The solution isn’t something you can learn with some methods, by doing a few workshops. To be in the world but not of the world requires a profound inquiry.
It means being willing to listen to yourself from a deeper place — to listen from that place in yourself that is deeper than the acquisitive mind. The acquisitive mind wants to get somewhere, wants to know, wants to grasp, wants to possess, wants to take ownership of its experience. When we don’t truly know ourselves, we believe ourselves to be that voice inside the acquisitive mind — the voice that wants to be safe, that wants to be secure. On a functional level — you could also call it on an animal level — we need to be safe and secure. But on a psychological level, this need for safety and security prevents us from knowing our true awake nature.
To listen from that deeper place in you requires such a letting-go, such a willingness to stop giving your allegiance to the voice that drives the acquisitive mind. If you are to live fully awake and fully human, you are required to look within and ask what stands in the way of unclenching the ego’s grip on life. Can you tell the truth about your suffering? Can you be honest with yourself about how you fight with your experience, how you make an enemy of your thoughts and your feelings, how you reject and suppress and run away from what you don’t like or want? Can you see how, by listening to the acquisitive mind, you are reifying a divided self? Can you see that it’s not your experience that causes your suffering, but your rejection of the experience?
And then can you go a little deeper — by asking yourself if you are truly willing to stop rejecting your experience, to stop dividing life into good and bad, to stop making an enemy out of what is here? Because only if you are truly willing to end the war within can you start to wake up out of egoic identity and the dream of separation.
To wake up is to derive no identity from circumstance or experience, and yet to be fully engaged with the human experience. When a living inquiry arises in you — because your deepest longing is to know the peace that is always here whether life’s going your way or not — the awakeness of your true nature starts to shine through all circumstances and experiences. This awakeness is a presence that brings you into deep intimacy with life. And only when you are fully intimate with life can there be a real richness to your earthly life.
When you can surf the waves of the human experience — neither spiritually bypassing nor drowning in the mess of it — you become a master of life. What really happens is that the acquisitive mind steps down from its self-appointed position as master. It stops being the one that rules how you operate in life, the one that tortures you, that torments you with endless narratives of rights and wrongs. It’s as if this false master dies because you stop feeding it with your allegiance. When you stop believing the voice of this false master to be true, when you stop mistaking yourself for this voice, its role as the “controller of your life” dies — and it falls back into its rightful place. It dies as the tight knot of self, and it falls open into its true nature as being.
In falling open, mind transforms into the servant of that which is true. Now you are the master — not as someone who replaces the controller as another “supreme ruler,” but as one who has mastered the art of being awake and being human.
There’s no passivity in falling open — you’re not just “going with the flow,” floating downstream sleepily. On the contrary, there is poised receptivity — alertness, vigilance, presence, openness. You are right here, unmoving, unshakeable, and yet able to respond to any situation in a nanosecond. You have become a master of life, fully vibrating with aliveness — neither abdicating responsibility nor using your will to overpower life. There is elegance, grace, and a great power in this.
~ Amoda Maa

[Wind]

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[O Donna]

Suspicions,

Enlightenment,

Like grains of sand....

https://ak.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/30171955/thumb/1.jpg

Neti Neti

[Wind]

God knows nothing. Why?
Because there is nothing independent of God.
There is nothing apart from Truth to know.
You must hear and feel my words not merely as words
but as spirit and truth.
Therefore, listen with full attention and inside your Heart,
because this is not merely a mental exercise.
Actually, the mind gets exorcised by the Master’s words.
The Buddha’s words are direct, timeless, immediate.
My words must resonate.
In the search for Truth, resonance is the fastest
and highest way.
Through synchronicity, everything is assimilated
very easily, like a natural osmosis.
Just you are.
This knowledge is the goal of all earnest striving.
‘I am’—there is nothing apart to report.
You just quietly and joyfully merge inside your own ocean
and what emerges out of that absorption
is a book the world has not yet read.
The book is writing itself in its very unfolding.
The author and the book are One.

~ Mooji

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[Guish]

Hi Guys,

It's been a while.

Do not extinguish life fires. Handle them with care and use them in constructive ways.

Gassho,
Guish.

[greybeard]

Good to see you
Love Chris

[Wind]

It's good to see you again, Guish.

[Guish]

Good to see you
Love Chris

Hi Bro,

Good to see you too. I have been very busy with the good stuff. I have good news to share. I will be an ordained Zen buddhist in a couple of weeks.

Much love,
Guish.

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It's good to see you again, Guish.

We always return to the source. Isn't it?
Good to see you too.

[Guish]

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Do we exist as a separate self? What is emptiness?
We are like waves in the Ocean. Each wave is different but each wave form part of the ocean. We think that we are only the wave. The truth is that we are both the wave and the ocean. Thus, we are different and similar at the same time. We are all empty in a way as labels, categories, concepts of beauty or right/wrong are all generated by the mind interpreting things around us. But, at a particle level, each particle has its own probability distribution. At a Quark level, we happen to be different too.
So, I am you and you are me but we are also different.
Much love,
Geerish.

[O Donna]

Hi Guys,

It's been a while.

Do not extinguish life fires. Handle them with care and use them in constructive ways.

Gassho,
Guish.

(True) life/ fire, independent of consumption.

Constructive comes and goes ad infinitum.

Surfs up!

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[greybeard]

Wishing Everyone a Merry Christmas
Love chris

[wondering]

Same to you, Chris. Good to see you! Diane

[greybeard]

Mooji - Separation is ILLUSION - Wisdom


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9bNkyY-6HE

[Eva2]

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'As a caterpillar comes to the end of its evolutionary capacity in its present form it begins to embrace the frightening prospect of total transformation. It builds it's own cave in which to retreat and allow for the metamorphosis that will utilise the propensities encoded into its matrix, to reveal the full extent of its transcendent, evolutionary design. In the still, quiet, darkness of it's chrysalis it surrenders to its own cellular intelligence...it's own magnificence.
Isolated, suspended in time and space, it is left only with its essential and elemental awareness. It has nothing to hold onto, nothing to convince it of its limitations. Beyond it's cave the sun rises and sets, the rain and wind, the rustle and creak, count the rhythmic beat of life and death beyond its isolated womb of rebirth. It must die to the past.The sense of self, that is reliant upon the ordering of the world to meet its mundane needs, is yielded to the growing vision of what it is becoming. It relinquishes its hold on the restraints of all interpretations of the rational that might hold it back from the rushing flow of change that will ultimately deliver it to the promise of light...and flight.
The process of recalibration begins. Its present form slowly dismantled, dissolved, reduced to fluid, in preparation for the geometry of its primal template to realign and resurrect it's codes into a form that will gift the world with weightless, luminous beauty.... a butterfly.'

Juliet J Carter

[O Donna]

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/19/15/66/19156698069ecc936340b5913aa7a46c--little-monsters-unusual-animals.jpg

Before becoming a butterfly, already, extraordinary in and of itself.

And before that? Beautiful!


Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed - Antoine Lavoisier

[greybeard]

portals to the Absolute



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DmQkTvj0Y&t=534s

[Wind]

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[greybeard]

WHILE IN THE BODY BE VAST AND FREE - SRI NISARGADATTA MAHARAJ - NEW TALKS - lomakayu - audiobook



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhdPDT0ydPs&t=19s

¤=[Post Update]=¤

The ego is
Belief in the story of me, which is just a thought
Chris

[Wind]

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[Wind]

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[Mashika]

VUkIMBaWha0

https://terebess.hu/zen/Buddha-as-child1.jpg



Gutei was a disciple of Tenryu (T'ien-lung), probably towards the
end of the T'ang dynasty. While he was first residing in a small temple,
he had a visit from a travelling nun, who came right into the temple
without removing her headgear. Carrying her staff with her, she went
three times around the meditation chair in which Gutei was sitting. Then
he said to him, 'Say a word of Zen, and I shall take off my hat.' She
repeated this three times, but Gutei did not know what to say. When the
nun was about to depart, Gutei suggested, 'It is growing late, and why
not stay here overnight?' Jissai (Shih-chi), which was the name of the
nun, said, 'If you say a word of Zen, I shall stay.' As he was still unable
to say a word, she left.

This was a terrible blow to poor Gutei, who pitifully sighed: 'While
I have the form of a man, I seem not to have any manly stamina!' He
then resolved to study and master Zen. When he was about to start on
his Zen 'wanderings', he had a vision of the mountain god who told
him not to go away from his temple, for a Bodhisattva in flesh would be
coming here before long and enlighten him in the truth of Zen. Surely
enough a Zen master called Tenryu (T'ien-lung) appeared the following
day. Gutei told the master all about the humiliating experience of the
previous day and his firm resolution to attain the secrets of Zen. Tenryu
just lifted one of his fingers and said nothing. This, however, was enough
to open Gutei's mind at once to the ultimate meaning of Zen, and it is
said that ever since Gutei did or said nothing but just hold up a finger
to all the questions that might be asked of him concerning Zen.
There was a boy in his temple, who seeing the master's trick imitated
him when the boy himself was asked about what kind of preaching his
master generally practised. When the boy told the master about it showing
his lifted little finger, the master cut it right off with a knife. The boy
ran away screaming in pain, when Gutei called him back. The boy
turned back, the master lifted his own finger, and the boy instantly
realized the meaning of the 'one-finger Zen' of Tenryu as well as Gutei.


That's where I AM and ego lay in (un)rest.

Always just one step ahead

[Wind]

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[Wind]

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[greybeard]

NO I, NO YOU, NO WORLD, NO MIND , JUST A SWINGING DOOR - PERFECT BRILLIANT STILLNESS - LOMAKAYU



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plellwKuFng&t=1053s

This is the current focus of attention, ; listening happens every day
Love Chris

[Wind]

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[Vicus]

The Ego got many names...Wetiko, Archon parasite, the little devil on your left shoulder, the trickster...

Always trying that you do the wrong thing...to get you in troubles...and he lives in fear to be discover...


How I discover it:

After landing in a new city on weekends got a room in a pension, it was cold and rainy. i deicide to stay

indoors. I ask the patron for a tv , but I don't have any cash after paying the room.

I ask the patron if I can pay the tv rent on Monday when banks are open...

He stubborn say no... again and again not matter what I say...

We stand on a staircase, I was up and he 2 steps down and then I hear " it " voice...

"just a little push...and he goes dawn..." WTF ? who is it ? I should kill the man ?

Got ya! I learn to Handel "it" like a dog, Im your Master no the other way around! go to your place!

Today anytime "it" try something (very little occasions) I know how to Handel "it". Basta, finito ,ende.


"The greatest con that he (Ego) ever pulled...was making you believe...that he is you".


there is a very interesting film in mundane terms about all of this...



https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0365686/

[O Donna]

Interesting choice for the title of this amazing movie, Revolver.




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We're like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheep herder's feet: "Pick it up."

"I don't wanna pick it up mister, you'll shoot me."

"Pick up the gun."

Boom, boom.

"You all saw him. He had a gun."

Ego(s) aka Mexican standoff (A Mexican standoff is a confrontation in which no strategy exists that allows any party to achieve victory.)

Author/ creator and reader/ consumer/ destroyer both picked up the gun.



Here We Go Up, Up, Up!
(Nursery Rhyme)

Here we go UP, UP, UP!
Here we go DOWN, DOWN, DOWN!
Here we go BACKWARDS and FORWARDS!
Here we go AROUND AND AROUND!

[greybeard]

YOUR SOUL CAME HERE WITH A SONG TO SING. "I AM" IS A LOVE THAT FREES THE MUSIC - MEDICINE OF ONE




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIbN8Cwv1Qo

[greybeard]

THE BIG I: AWAKE IN THE DREAM PART 1 - REFUSE TO BE WHO YOU ARE NOT - LOMAKAYU - MEDICINE OF ONE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsPbkcB-g6M&t=20s

[greybeard]

WALK IN BEAUTY - CONCLUSION OF THE BIG I: AWAKE IN THE DREAM - MEDICINE OF ONE - LOMAKAYU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsPbkcB-g6M&t=20s[/url]

[Wind]

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[cannawizard]

Hi friends
To put it into context.
There are two kinds of ego.
One as defined by the Medical/ Psychiatric profession.
is Healthy self esteem.
It is good to take pride in the way we do things.
When one is comfortable with oneself and what one does then fear decrease and it is easy to be in this world with all its trials and tribulations at that point there is an over lap into the second definition of ego, the spiritual one.

The ego in spiritual terms could be defined as "Edge God Out"
Every spiritual teacher without exception says that to fully know one true self the ego must be transcended.

There were some very good contributions to this thread on Avalon and I hope that the same will apply here.
Celine has said that the complete thread from Avalon will be reposted here but there are technical problems in doing this at the moment, hopefully these will be resolved.
Time being fresh insights are very welcome.
Chris
Namaste.

nice thread, lots of data to absorb and expound upon, thanks for sharing~

[Wind]

"What is enlightenment? Enlightenment or awakening is not an exotic experience, it is simply the recognition of the nature of our being, which underlies and pervades all experience irrespective of its content. In other words, it is always and has always been here, as you.

In order to see our true nature and become established in its innate peace and joy, we go deeply into ourself, discarding or letting go of anything that is not essential to us – thoughts, images, feelings, perceptions, relationships an so on – tracing our way back to our essential reducible self or being, over and over again.

Rupert sometimes refers to this approach as the Way of Recognition - to know again something that we have always known but we have overlooked or ignored or forgotten.

As we become established in our true nature of being, or awareness, fewer and fewer experiences in life have the power to take us away from our self. In time, we begin to feel that our being is not really 'our' being. In other words, it does not really belong to us as a person.

Our being, divested of the qualities that it acquires from the content of our experience, is revealed simply as being. Utterly intimate but impersonal and unlimited, extending way beyond the borders of our self as a person.

That being is not only the essence of our self, but is the essence of everything. It is that from which we derive our sense of our self. It is also that being from which everyone and everything derives its apparent individuality or its apparent existence.

In other words we begin to feel and intuit that what we essentially are on the inside is the same reality, the same being that all people all animals and all things essentially are. And this recognition is that to which we refer in all people and animals as love. And in relation to objects and nature as beauty."

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[greybeard]

WHAT CAN NOT BE FORGOTTEN IS ETERNAL -Nisargaddata Maharaj - Self Love,The Original Dream -




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN85cCoBbeY

[Wind]

A wave is ocean, and when it rises up, it is given the
name ‘wave’. When it is given this name, it is like it has
an independent existence. It seems to roll along the
surface, which is all water—water flowing in water—
and this we call a life. Then it subsides and this is called
death. Actually nothing happened to the water. It is
just a natural movement, but because name and form
are attributed to it, it appears as a separate existence, or
entity. All the while it is only the play of water rising,
flowing, subsiding—no story. Mind makes the story by
creating an illusory identity. In true understanding, it is
all one. When the identity rises up, we celebrate it as a
birth and when it flows, we call it life. When it subsides,
we call it death and grieve. But really, if you look from
the perspective of the True, nothing really happened
except the dreamed life of a ghost comes to an end.

~ Mooji

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[O Donna]

Irony, it takes a wave to say anything/ everything however deep or shallow.

https://lsvoiceworks.com/new/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lynn-home-page-voice-waves_OV2-e1549830233832.jpg

Thus spoke the wave...

https://c.tenor.com/bCxHQADOx4sAAAAC/waves-hit.gif

:tea:

[Wind]

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[greybeard]

Alan watts - awakening ( let go )




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItXEhppnz5k

[greybeard]

Alan Watts opens up about Religion - thought provoking video

Alan Watts opens up about Jesus and the true religion. The image of Jesus is owned by the church traditions and authorities. He has been moulded to fit the interests of the church patriarchs for centuries, so much so that the prevailing image of Jesus is now so far removed from what he truly represented.
Namely an energy from the future who came to earth to bring illumination and knowledge to humanity.
The reason why the Jesus/Jeshua personality came to earth was to create an opening or doorway to a different state of consciousness. He wanted to set an example of the possibilities that are available to each human being.
He wanted to hold up a mirror to human beings and remind them of their own divine origin and the dormant potentials they carried within. The potentials for peace, freedom and mastership over oneself.

To learn more about Jeshua’s identity, take a look at: https://www.jeshua.net/about-us/who-i...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avN_gQ7NC0I

[Wind]

Samadhi (http://yogananda.com.au/pyr/pyr_samadhi.html)

"Samadhi (spiritual ecstasy; state of God-union experienced as the ultimate goal of meditation) is a joyous experience, a splendid light in which you behold the countless worlds floating in a vast bed of joy and bliss. Banish the spiritual ignorance that makes you think this mortal life is real.

The end of the world is realized in samadhi, or divine ecstasy. There are two kinds of samadhi. When at first you try to sit and meditate, your mind runs away in all directions. You think it is impossible to go deep. But if you sit still and persist long enough, you will begin to feel that wonderful silence of God. When your mind is withdrawn, centered in Him, the world is forgotten and you find in that silence a happiness greater than any worldly pleasure. That state, when you are totally absorbed in inner awareness of God, no longer conscious of the world, is called sabikalpa samadhi. It is "partial dissolution of the world" because, when you return to ordinary consciousness, the delusions of the world will again somewhat affect you, unless you are highly evolved and free of all desires and attachments.

The second and highest state of samadhi is when you are in the world but not of it — carrying on your duties, but every moment conscious of God. That is nirbikalpa samadhi. It is the end of all limiting desires and attachments. Delusion is vanquished, and that is the true end of the world.

I wrote, in my later years, the following poem, "Samadhi," endeavoring to convey a glimpse of its glory":


Vanished the veils of light and shade,
Lifted every vapor of sorrow,
Sailed away all dawns of fleeting joy,
Gone the dim sensory mirage.
Love, hate, health, disease, life, death:
Perished these false shadows on the screen of duality.
The storm of maya stilled
By magic wand of intuition deep.
Present, past, future, no more for me,
But ever-present, all-flowing I, I, everywhere.
Planets, stars, Stardust, earth,
Volcanic bursts of doomsday cataclysms,
Creation's molding furnace,
Glaciers of silent X-rays, burning electron floods,
Thoughts of all men, past, present, to come,
Every blade of grass, myself, mankind,
Each particle of universal dust, Anger, greed, good, bad, salvation, lust,
I swallowed, transmuted all
Into a vast ocean of blood of my own one Being.
Smoldering joy, oft-puffed by meditation
Blinding my tearful eyes,
Burst into immortal flames of bliss,
Consumed my tears, my frame, my all.
Thou art I, I am Thou,
Knowing, Knower, Known, as One!
Tranquilled, unbroken thrill, eternally living, ever-new peace.
Enjoyable beyond imagination of expectancy, samadhi bliss!
Not an unconscious state
Or mental chloroform without willful return,
Samadhi but extends my conscious realm
Beyond limits of the mortal frame
To farthest boundary of eternity
Where I, the Cosmic Sea,
Watch the little ego floating in Me.
Mobile murmurs of atoms are heard,
The dark earth, mountains, vales, lo! molten liquid!
Flowing seas change into vapors of nebulae!
Aura blows upon vapors, opening wondrously their veils,
Oceans stand revealed, shining electrons,
Till, at the last sound of the cosmic drum,
Vanish the grosser lights into eternal rays
Of all-pervading bliss.
From joy I came, for joy I live, in sacred joy I melt.
Ocean of mind, I drink all creation's waves.
Four veils of solid, liquid, vapor, light,
Lift aright.
I, in everything, enter the Great Myself.
Gone forever: fitful, flickering shadows of mortal memory;
Spotless is my mental sky—below, ahead, and high above;
Eternity and I, one united ray.
A tiny bubble of laughter,
I Am become the Sea of Mirth Itself.

~ Paramahansa Yogananda

[greybeard]

This Video Will Give You Goosebumps - Did Alan Watts Predict The Future?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxt-OzpDMm0

[O Donna]

This Video Will Give You Goosebumps - Did Alan Watts Predict The Future?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxt-OzpDMm0

https://media4.giphy.com/media/jxbtTiXsCUZQXOKP2M/giphy.gif

......

I am or not, you are or not
Who am I, Who are you?

When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?" They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets." Matthew 16: 13, 14

Somewhere in root of enlightenment: What is or isn’t identity?

[O Donna]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxt-OzpDMm0

This is one of those video that, IMO, could have a thread all it's own. A modern day connect-the-dots. Going to need a strong stomach for it (ride).

Can goosebumps become a dis-ease?

Realization:
Singularity Now

Just a friendly game chess in the park.
https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/photos/2013/july/26/31380_original.jpg

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-he-who-has-a-thousand-friends-has-not-a-friend-to-spare-while-he-who-has-one-enemy-shall-ralph-waldo-emerson-51-98-55.jpg

Caught looking,
Checkmate!

[greybeard]

Alan Watts - Trust The Universe And Control Nothing



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Uxreq9PLQ

[O Donna]

Alan Watts - Trust The Universe And Control Nothing



Zen or not, breathwork is an attempt to control.

That's why addressing that which seems beyond approachable is enlightening.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/contradictions-contradictions-everywhere-54fb8292ad.jpg

In the manifest world, look for that which has been elevated and feverishly defended, seemingly beyond reach, there is a good chance that there are trapping of an illusion mixed in.

Temporal value, certainly, and a path worth exploring. But so is the path of, say this observation:


Signs Signs
Everywhere there's signs
Fu*king up the scenery
Breaking my mind
Do this, don't do that
Can't you read the sign

- Les Emmerson

Zens Zens
Everywhere there's Zens
Fu*king up the scenery
Breaking my mind
Do this, don't do that
Can't you read the Zen

Zen like any path, 'finger pointing' (all digits run parallel)

"Anybody caught trespassing will be shot on sight"

Contradiction is in the crosshairs
Without trespassers the trappings of sign/ way would be absolute.


Let freedom ring. -Martin Luther King

Now, with digital signs, they can change in the blink of an I

https://prodimages.everythingneon.com/giant/l100-10477-openclosed-animated-led-sign.gif
(go home, sign, you're drunk :) )


Let freedom ring. -Martin Luther King

[greybeard]

It's Already Happening But People Don't See It - Alan Watts on Duality



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuZ1SqXjLmw

[greybeard]

There are loads of excellent Allan Watts videos on u tube -- too many to post.
My main in put is David Carse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR_C2NNB-wI&t=90s

He also reads Nasargadatta, Papaji and Ramana elsewhere to be found on u tube
His voice hypnotic.
I like his no nonsense style.

Thanks to contributors and readers.
Love Chris

[greybeard]

The Biggest Joke of All - Alan Watts on The Ego


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QumMSGHITo0