the Illusion of Participation

[seah]

I haven’t voted since coming awake. I understand how some may view this outlook as unsophisticated and lacking common sense, from a person who professes to be aware of the current events which curtail our freedoms; pushing us to exist as workers for a consumer society, enforcing illusion after illusion onto our everyday life.

A democratic society tells us that voting is our opportunity to change what we don’t agree with, it claims that those who don’t vote are apathetic, but I don’t see voting as taking action, I see it as playing a game, the rules of which, no longer interest me; it’s a shell game, intended to keep us invested in a lie and I refuse to empower the liars by playing.

I am quite aware of the available definitions for my present view of life and the boxes our governments use to place people like me in to, bearing menacing titles. The propaganda machine states that we are “dangerous to human life”, but at least in my case, nothing could be further from the truth. It is the controllers that are a threat to humanity. As we know, it’s a sociopathic well-established characteristic to accuse us of the very thing they are guilty of.

I am full of reverence for the Earth and my fellow brothers and sisters who reside upon it. It is not indifference that has brought me to this perspective; it is only that I am motivated by other things.
My revolt and dissidence is a quiet one; my footprint is small. Unlearning a lifetime of indoctrination will take the rest of my life, but I am up to the task.

The electoral process was flawed from the get go. It turns mere men/women into tyrants. We don’t need new rulers we need a new system.

[moekatz]

Thanks for expressing my similar feelings. After researching a bit of info about voting machines, I fondly remembered I'd been at the voting table at my local church at age 21. It was very similar to being at church where you met all your neighbors and had small conversations that carefully avoided any mention of politics so you wouldn't break voting rules. In that particular state in the USA, you were told from the pulpit how to vote and vote we did-the way the "authorities" wanted.
The best statement from seah is...."we need a new system."

[Sophocles]

I agree.

One vote is just one more contribution to the maintenance of the very same system one thinks one can exert a real (significant) effect upon by voting (IMO).

Excerpt from The End of All Evil (http://www.mensenrechten.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/EndofallEvil1.pdf) by Jeremy Locke:


Democracy is the greatest evil that can possibly exist. It is a greater evil than communism, and a greater evil than royalty. All other forms of tyranny are obviously evil because they allowed a few to control the lives of all. Freedom was destroyed for nearly everyone. Democracy, however, teaches that you are free enough to vote, a seemingly better system. Unfortunately, it legitimizes other people voting away your freedoms. This makes it evil. What makes it pure evil, and the greatest form of evil that can possibly exist is that you also vote to take away freedoms.

Everyone becomes a slave –and everyone becomes a master of slaves. Perfect evil.

[KevBoh]

If I was a voting person, (which I am not, and never have been) the only way you can vote in my opinion is through the process of elimination. You're either left or right, In the UK no matter what angle you look at it, these clowns (politicians) are only in for themselves. So to vote for the lesser of two evils is not my cup of tea. They don't deserve my vote. I vote for something I like, not voting one because I don't like the other. They are all crooks!

[Marikins]

I have always voted. I do not think democracy is evil. Right now, though it feels that elections are likely fixed with the illusion of choice. But soon it will not be and voting will be meaningful once again. This is just my impression.
However, a famous Kahuna who recently died said he didn't vote because it was giving away some of his power. I can certainly understand that. Is it possible we don't need government or representation? I would love to see what that looks like, organic on-the-fly decisions.

[Lost N Found]

VOTE. What a full crock of crap it is in this world. Used to be about a hundred and so years ago or maybe more WE THE PEOPLE just voted and did not need to registar to do so. By being born on the land of one of states of the united states of america we were just electors and we did control the government and actually put a representative into the small government to be our representative. Today not the case, all of those treasonous bastu*ds our their for themselves and work for a corporation. been doing that for a long time. I actually used to vote but finally came to the conclusion that all I was doing was being a good little slave on the plantation and by filling out that registration form one actually declares them self as a government employ and there for subject to all the statutes and rules of the corporation. That my friends is one of the many ways these insidious creeps get your consent to treat you as one of their little slaves.

I filled out an affidavit as an elector of a free man on the land and sent it to my local county elections board and to the Secretary of my State and declared myself to not be a registered voter anymore. Got an answer within three days stating that I was no longer part of their bull crap. Real happy about that. Been done with that for years now.

One has to ask themselves, where in the constitution or the bill of rights or any of those documents does it state that there are only two factions you can vote for? When you really look at this crap you will see that their is only one in reality in their insidious brains. Jesse Ventura summed it up real well in his book called the democrips and the republoods. Gangs is what we have folks so all you get to vote for is some crap brain to empty your wallets and create wars all over the world. I have posted this on other threads but it does seem to fit in this one even better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuNsZZ7LYbo[/url]

So this may be so much more real. If you still find a need to participate in crazies that is ok too Good luck

[Constance]

We don’t need new rulers we need a new system.



The best statement from seah is...."we need a new system."

Agreed.

Just an idea :idea: - Maybe this forum is the platform to find out what we all agree upon. Now and forever.

Unanimous to all.

All voices heard.

All voices honoured.

What we all can't unanimously agree upon, we can put to one side because in doing so, we honour the highest truth we can possibly attain.

I have always felt that this forum has been the opportunity to find real truths. Together.

I imagine that if we can codify what we all agree upon here from the highest truth of our beings - we are going to move in a direction that leads us to real peace. :bearhug:

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[gripreaper]

I actually used to vote but finally came to the conclusion that all I was doing was being a good little slave on the plantation and by filling out that registration form one actually declares them self as a government employ and there for subject to all the statutes and rules of the corporation.

Well, do you own your own body?

If there is one thing that the smelliest, most down-and-out, most destitute, most forsaken homeless guy who sleeps under a bridge has in common with Donald Trump it is that they both own their own bodies. That may be all the homeless guy owns, but he owns it free and clear and should be able to do what he wants with it.

And so should we—as long as our activities are peaceful, our interactions are consensual, and our associations are voluntary.

Your body belongs to you—not the state, not some government agency, not some puritanical busybody, not some government bureaucrat, and not some nanny statist.

So why can’t we do what we want with our own bodies?

If a man owns his own body then surely he can ingest any drug he chooses? He can get high on marijuana. He can smoke crack. He can take PCP. He can snort cocaine. He can shoot up with heroin. He can drop acid. He can swallow an ecstasy pill. He can inject himself with crystal meth. He can eat psychedelic mushrooms.

Not so says the government. We have a war on drugs. We will lock you in a cage where you can be raped, beaten, humiliated, and suffer the loss of your job, your money, and your family.

If a man owns his body then surely he can use it to brew his own beer and distill his own alcohol on his own property? He can invite his friends over to watch football and serve them his concoctions. He can sell some of it to his friends to take home.

Not so says the government. It is a federal crime for an individual to brew more than 100 gallons of beer at home. A household with two or more adults can brew up to 200 gallons. However, none of the homebrewed beer can be sold. Then there are state laws that one must comply with. And don’t even think about distilling any amount of your own alcohol.

If a man owns his own body then surely he can sell part of it? He can sell one of his kidneys while he is still alive to save the life of a dying man who is willing to pay him. He can sell his entire body to a hospital upon his death so that he can provide for his widow and save lives after his own has expired.

Not so says the government. You are forbidden from selling your organs, whether you are alive or dead, even though they are so much a part of you that they are inside your body.

If a man owns his own body then surely he can eat and drink whatever he wants to? He can drink huge sugary soft drinks. He can eat sweets laden with trans fat. He can eat junk food to his heart’s content. He can eat processed food loaded in salt.

Not so says the government. We will issue nutrition guidelines, wage war on fat, demonize certain foods, regulate school lunches, and, on the local level, restrict the size of soft drinks, monitor salt content, and ban trans fat.

If a man owns his own body then surely he can rent out his body for sexual purposes? A man can be a male prostitute or a gigolo. A woman can be a female prostitute or an escort. They can all advertise their services on Craigslist.

Not so says the government. Even though men and women can provide free sexual services as often as they want, to as many willing people as they can find, we will arrest them if they charge for it.

If a man owns his own body then surely he can gamble with some of his money? He can run a blackjack tournament in his neighborhood. He can have his friends over to play poker for money while they all watch the World Series of Poker on television and take a rake for doing so. He can run his own lottery.

Not so says the government. There are a myriad of federal and state laws that restrict, regulate, or prohibit gambling. We have to fine and/or imprison you if you violate one of these laws.

If a man owns his own body then surely he can get any weapon he wants to defend himself against those who would aggress against him and do him bodily harm.

Not so says the government. In spite of the Second Amendment, there are many federal gun laws that you have to comply with. We will restrict what guns and ammo you are allowed to own. We will do a background check and if we don’t like what we see, then you will be forbidden to purchase a gun. And state governments have waiting periods that you have to comply with.

If a man owns his own body then surely he can travel wherever he wants to go that is willing to allow him? While there he can spend any amount of his money that he chooses and bring back any amount of merchandise he chooses.

Not so says the government. If you decide to go to Cuba, even now with some restrictions eliminated, you have to give the State Department a reason why you are going. And we reserve the right to restrict what you can bring with you and bring back.

If a man owns his own body then surely he can work for any wage that is offered to him? He may be unemployed, never graduated from high school, and be unskilled. Any money he can make will help him feed himself, stay off welfare, and learn a skill.

Not so says the government. You cannot work for less than the federal minimum wage. And in some states and cities, there is an even higher minimum wage that you cannot make less than. We will fine any employer who tries to help you become a productive member of society.

If a man owns his own body then surely he can keep the fruit of your labor? If he makes $500 a week then he can put all of it in the bank, stash all of it under his mattress, or spend all of it.

Not so says the government. We are entitled to a cut of the fruits of your labor. And the more successful you are, the more we will take from you. We are in the business of spending money on boondoggles and redistributing money from those who work to those who don’t, filtered, of course, through our large and inefficient bureaucracy.

If a man owns his own body then surely he can take his own life if he wishes? He can buy a quantity of pills to swallow that will render him unconscious and stop his heart in order to end his suffering from pain, disability, disease, depression, or anguish.

Not so says the government. If you try to commit suicide and fail, we will involuntarily commit you to the mental ward of your local hospital. We will limit your ability to purchase drugs by requiring a doctor to write you a prescription.

I can’t help but concluding that, as far as the state is concerned, we don’t really own our own bodies at all. We live, move, and have our being at the behest of the state.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/10/laurence-m-vance/do-you-own-your-body-2/

And now they want to jab you, force you to be mandated to take vaccines regardless of what you "think about them, or whether you want them or not". Vaccines full of toxic adjuvants, mercury, squaline, pig viruses, and all manner of crap.

[grannyfranny100]

gripreaper, that is amazingly fun to read. I thought that Jesse Venture had great one to say it on a ballot: add another option "none of the above." That will never happen because it would be too embarrassing when none of the above wins!!!

[Ikarusion]

qxsQ7jJJcEA I understand how some may view this outlook as unsophisticated and lacking common sense, but I like to consume some harsher truths with a little humor and hope you'll enjoy it too. :)

[Matt P]

I'm not familiar with the voting machines in Canada but I'll assume they are as easily hacked as the ones in the States. That point alone shows the folly of voting.
We have been "electing" the same sort of suits for all these years and our problems not only persist they have gotten much worse. The system is set up to reward only the same sort of fools that will go along and keep the money train going for the elite. No average, common sense people who care about others and the planet are even allowed in the game. Until the vote is no longer able to be so easily hacked and until we drop this insane expectation that an elected leader must be either a lawyer or a wealthy business person, I will not ever be voting again.

Matt

[MorningFox]

South Park hit the nail on the head in one of their episodes when the basic premise was that you could either vote for a turd sandwich or a giant douche. Basically - what's the point?

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https://dryislandcastaways.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/turddouche.jpg

[seah]

Some real funny stuff all around. Carlin is still my favourite rebel, and South Park's picture is worth a thousand words.

gripreaper, of course we don't own our bodies. We don't even own the words we speak once we've said them, but we can be chastised for saying them. Wonder if we still own our thoughts?

Lost n Found, I like how you took care of your voting privileges. I had no idea one had that option. These offices love the 'red tape'.