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KevBoh
21st October 2015, 16:57
I have 2 Children. Jac and Soffi, (welsh for Jack and Soffi). Jac is 10 years old in feb, and Soffi has just turned 4.

Soffi came home from school today, singing a song in Welsh that I remember singing in School, thanking Jesus for the school, planet, friends etc. Obviously I'm not going to tell her that Jesus didn't exist, or for her to make her own mind up as she is too young.

Jac on the other hand is 10 as I said. I have told him (as simply as I can) the real reasons behind World Wars, not to listen to indoctrinated crap about Religion etc. I am trying to prepare him, as I feel they are getting brainwashed in School. This has made me more curious about their education/indoctrination. They are learning about the Syrian Migrants and so forth.

How does one teach your child that everything they do in school is a sausage machine design for you to fit in the 'status quo' when leaving school, ready to pay your taxes and contribute to society?

Can anyone who has older children than I have please give me some pointers as to how deep we inform them at certain ages? Will the veil be lifted by the time they get to my age? I'm genuinely worried about this matter... Some insight from my fellow avalonians would be most appreciated.

Thanks :)

Kevin Bohana From Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerwchwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch :)

Awakening2014
21st October 2015, 17:10
Great question! I also have a four year old and would love to have suggestions.

Citizen No2
21st October 2015, 18:02
When the children were around ten/eleven years old, I started to gently nudge them towards asking questions........ small at first, working up to questioning most things. Now they are in their early twenties and at university, they know the score. Playing the game.

The best you can do is arm them with truth, and let them make their own way.


Regards.

Nasu
21st October 2015, 18:12
As a parent I have noticed, being amoungst other parents, all over the world, that no one has it right all the time. There is no one size fits all approach to how we bring up the next generation, IMHO.

As for teaching them about the frailties of our society, from how we teach about other religions or other cultures or even to systems of governance and control, be careful to not create someone unable to understand or empathise these accepted norms.. If our children rebel at every turn and society shuns them, how can they ever be the hope of change that we seek?

For myself, I teach around a subject that THEY bring up, when they are ready and or interested, not my opinion per se, but as many opinions as I know or feel can be understood by them, at that time of their development. I don't want them to think like me, I want them to feel confident in their OWN opinion, whether or not it mirrors my own.

We all developed at different rates and times, girls are generally faster than boys, sometimes huge leaps of understanding are made with the smallest of stimuli. I try my best to get them to ask questions and then search for the answer themselves, it is only by doing so that true understanding is formed, also it helps them to see for themseves that very few ideas, philosophies, theories and dogma are unique or are the final word. Almost everything has an opposing view, when we look hard..

So, for myself for my children, I have kept our family doctor, religion, the schools system, the concept of a career, the acceptance of tribute or taxes, respect for the law and police, nation pride, history as we mostly agree on it, love and hate, generousity and greed, technology and war.... All the things we could do with changing.. However, it is my feeling that they are born into this world, not the next, they need to understand this world and be able to thrive in it, if they are to have a hope of creating the next, IMHO.... Good luck!

Remember every parent, all across the globe, are just making it up each and every day as they go along..x... N

Ted
21st October 2015, 18:23
Unless you want to home school them, you'll have to accept what the school is offering. They are too young to understand that it's all B.S., and I would strongly recommend that you not start contradicting their lessons at school. I say this because it will cause a lot of confusion in their little minds which are not developed enough to handle it. It also scares them.
When they become teenagers they will be old enough to understand the complexities and contradictions of the world. Until then, just let them be kids.

ALLiTiZ
21st October 2015, 18:31
I have a 3 year old daughter and she has a children's Bible that was giving to her by her Grandparents. She loves the story of Jesus and a lot of the other stories too. The way I see it is, the story of Jesus is a great story and there is a great moral to be told, love is the answer. When she asks me who made us I do tell her that God and our Mamma's and poppa's made us but I also tell her that she decided to be here too. I believe it will be important to slowly tell her that the Bible is just a story that is based off our history but in the end, it is just stories to help us better understand our history and different morals to living a good life. Then maybe when she's a young teen maybe I'll tell her about the Billy Meir story and really set her loose. I have friends that won't ever read a word of the Bible to there kids, I don't blame them but I do see a benefit that can come from learning about it, as with all things in life.

Love you guys, be happy.

Mercedes
21st October 2015, 19:34
It is hard, I ended up learning much of what I know at almost the same time as my children. They have been part of my learning and discovery of this whole world. One thing I did is I stopped being so strict and rigid in what I thought and believed at the beggining of their journey. As it seems they are more in contact with the "alternatives truths" than me. Let them enjoy their childhood and be very aware of what they voice.

Nasu
21st October 2015, 19:43
Great thread KevBo. Clearly you are doing something right, they both have made it so far! Thinking on the real question you posed, if and when to illuminate a child / young adult to the dark that exists behind the curtain we call life...

You seem to be a reasonably well balanced fellow, given our rebelious group of souls in this forum... My parents helped me in so many ways, except my awakening, which is my own path to tread, as such it has so much more power.. I wonder, how much of your evolution of thought, can you put at your own parents door? For me, they gave me the tools, but I had to learn how best to use them, for that and everything else, I am forever grateful... N

KevBoh
21st October 2015, 19:47
Great thread KevBo. Clearly you are doing something right, they both have made it so far! Thinking on the real question you posed, if and when to illuminate a child / young adult to the dark that exists behind the curtain we call life...

You seem to be a reasonably well balanced fellow, given our rebelious group of souls.. My parents helped me in so many ways, except my awakening, which is my own path to tread. I wonder, how much of your evolution of thought, can you put at your own parents door? For me, they gave me the tools, I had to learn how best to use them, for that and everything else, I am forever grateful... N

Thanks Nasu, I only had a mother growing up, as I woke one morning in 1992 and found my dad dying, he was only 37, and I have 3 siblings. I guess my awakening started a few years after that as I was obsessed trying to discover if my Dad's spirit really lived on. With the benefit of Hindsight, I now know that my father's spirit does indeed live on. That was the tools i was left with, and I'm determined to ensure that I'm around when my children grows up all the way to their adult years :)

Thanks nasu, you seem nice :)

waves
21st October 2015, 20:23
Here's a possible problem on the horizon to look out for. I'd like to know how others avoided it and/or dealt with it.

If let's say, you've decided you won't let your boy play violent/killing video games, he will still be surrounded by many if not nearly all peers doing it and will feel left out, then possibly ostracized from his peer group and he could start to resent you and resist all rational, kind explanations saying you're doing it because you love him.

This dynamic goes for any of the issues you choose FOR HIM differently than most of his peers are allowed - bad foods, vaccinations, freedoms, behavior limits, TV, movies and it intensifies as they get older. In other words, he's suddenly in the the same world of ridicule and ostracizing we face for being different and sticking to our choices, but the child isn't 'choosing' it for himself yet.

Jayren
22nd October 2015, 00:35
I have 2 Children. Jac and Soffi, (welsh for Jack and Soffi). Jac is 10 years old in feb, and Soffi has just turned 4.

Soffi came home from school today, singing a song in Welsh that I remember singing in School, thanking Jesus for the school, planet, friends etc. Obviously I'm not going to tell her that Jesus didn't exist, or for her to make her own mind up as she is too young.

Jac on the other hand is 10 as I said. I have told him (as simply as I can) the real reasons behind World Wars, not to listen to indoctrinated crap about Religion etc. I am trying to prepare him, as I feel they are getting brainwashed in School. This has made me more curious about their education/indoctrination. They are learning about the Syrian Migrants and so forth.

How does one teach your child that everything they do in school is a sausage machine design for you to fit in the 'status quo' when leaving school, ready to pay your taxes and contribute to society?

Can anyone who has older children than I have please give me some pointers as to how deep we inform them at certain ages? Will the veil be lifted by the time they get to my age? I'm genuinely worried about this matter... Some insight from my fellow avalonians would be most appreciated.

Thanks :)

Kevin Bohana From Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerwchwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch :)

I say take them out of school and tell them to pursue there dreams and teaching them everything they need to learn along the way and let everything adjust the way it needs to adjust, this is to completely remove the programming and if you aren't to sure about that then atleast home school them

Bubu
22nd October 2015, 02:01
the best of course is the time you give them apparently you have it. I know that you are cautious about what to tell them as it may cause trauma or the likes. I say dont underestimate the young ones they can adapt accept easily than older ones. I just tell my children everything I knew no holds barred. It worked very well so far. I have 8 children. They are helping me spread the truth even though I did not ask them. Maybe its the honesty and the fact that I deliver the message in a very ordinary manner not much emotion involve just knowledge sharing. Thus they can accept it with ease even the bad news.
The younger you start them the better. Because they can take it like passively without much thought. When they experience or see an actual occurrence of the subject they understand very quickly. My oldest son told me when he was only 14 yrs old "Papa you're right, the ego is the heaviest burden to man". uncles cousins friends marvel at how he can carry serious conversations that even most adults are not aware of the subject matter.

Bubu
22nd October 2015, 02:05
I have 2 Children. Jac and Soffi, (welsh for Jack and Soffi). Jac is 10 years old in feb, and Soffi has just turned 4.

Soffi came home from school today, singing a song in Welsh that I remember singing in School, thanking Jesus for the school, planet, friends etc. Obviously I'm not going to tell her that Jesus didn't exist, or for her to make her own mind up as she is too young.

Jac on the other hand is 10 as I said. I have told him (as simply as I can) the real reasons behind World Wars, not to listen to indoctrinated crap about Religion etc. I am trying to prepare him, as I feel they are getting brainwashed in School. This has made me more curious about their education/indoctrination. They are learning about the Syrian Migrants and so forth.

How does one teach your child that everything they do in school is a sausage machine design for you to fit in the 'status quo' when leaving school, ready to pay your taxes and contribute to society?

Can anyone who has older children than I have please give me some pointers as to how deep we inform them at certain ages? Will the veil be lifted by the time they get to my age? I'm genuinely worried about this matter... Some insight from my fellow avalonians would be most appreciated.

Thanks :)

Kevin Bohana From Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerwchwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch :)

I say take them out of school and tell them to pursue there dreams and teaching them everything they need to learn along the way and let everything adjust the way it needs to adjust, this is to completely remove the programming and if you aren't to sure about that then atleast home school them

I was also thinking of taking them out from school but school is where their playmates are. Taking them from school is taking play out of their life. to be able to do this you need to find or create an off grid community. where children are not hoarded to school.

Constance
22nd October 2015, 05:09
I homeschool my son. He is ten years old too ;)

What I have experienced on our unschooling journey is that because he has so much time on his hands to reflect on life and because we spend so much time together, he asks a LOT of questions. An awful lot!! They are about everyone and everything.

Naturally because we are out in the world a lot together, we spend a lot of time interacting with people and observing nature.

He uses this as his time to hone his critical thinking and I use it as my time to act as a sounding board for him.

I can be having a conversation with someone else (with him present) and he doesn't just take what I am saying on face value, he will interrupt in his own funny little way and challenge what I have just said. He sometimes has a perspective on the world that I haven't thought of myself!

I have always encouraged him to be a critical thinker, in other words, "how" to think rather than "what" to think.

I've always asked him to never believe anything that anyone has to say without reflecting on the truth of it as a whole first... and to not even believe what I have to say.
It challenges us both to constantly access and reflect upon what we share with everyone.

I still haven't shared everything that I know and understand about the world with him just yet either because I want him to have his childhood.

I think that whilst he does enjoy hearing what I have to say about certain things, my intention is to "do no harm". There are some things that no child should ever know about. I don't ever underestimate his ability to comprehend things.

For now I trust that I will get a feeling for the moment when the tone of his questions change and a different type of maturity emerges and I can share with him fully what we are up against in this world.

This is a great talk by Gabor Mate. It is called, hold onto your kids. It is really worth the watch.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_akH6Cin6E

Constance
22nd October 2015, 05:12
I have 2 Children. Jac and Soffi, (welsh for Jack and Soffi). Jac is 10 years old in feb, and Soffi has just turned 4.

Soffi came home from school today, singing a song in Welsh that I remember singing in School, thanking Jesus for the school, planet, friends etc. Obviously I'm not going to tell her that Jesus didn't exist, or for her to make her own mind up as she is too young.

Jac on the other hand is 10 as I said. I have told him (as simply as I can) the real reasons behind World Wars, not to listen to indoctrinated crap about Religion etc. I am trying to prepare him, as I feel they are getting brainwashed in School. This has made me more curious about their education/indoctrination. They are learning about the Syrian Migrants and so forth.

How does one teach your child that everything they do in school is a sausage machine design for you to fit in the 'status quo' when leaving school, ready to pay your taxes and contribute to society?

Can anyone who has older children than I have please give me some pointers as to how deep we inform them at certain ages? Will the veil be lifted by the time they get to my age? I'm genuinely worried about this matter... Some insight from my fellow avalonians would be most appreciated.

Thanks :)

Kevin Bohana From Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerwchwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch :)

I say take them out of school and tell them to pursue there dreams and teaching them everything they need to learn along the way and let everything adjust the way it needs to adjust, this is to completely remove the programming and if you aren't to sure about that then atleast home school them

I was also thinking of taking them out from school but school is where their playmates are. Taking them from school is taking play out of their life. to be able to do this you need to find or create an off grid community. where children are not hoarded to school.

Bubu, have you looked into how big the homeschooling network is in your community?

I don't know what it is like in your country but the network here in Australia is huge and my son has many opportunities to play with other homeschooling kids.

Constance
22nd October 2015, 06:28
Here's a possible problem on the horizon to look out for. I'd like to know how others avoided it and/or dealt with it.

If let's say, you've decided you won't let your boy play violent/killing video games, he will still be surrounded by many if not nearly all peers doing it and will feel left out, then possibly ostracized from his peer group and he could start to resent you and resist all rational, kind explanations saying you're doing it because you love him.

This dynamic goes for any of the issues you choose FOR HIM differently than most of his peers are allowed - bad foods, vaccinations, freedoms, behavior limits, TV, movies and it intensifies as they get older. In other words, he's suddenly in the the same world of ridicule and ostracizing we face for being different and sticking to our choices, but the child isn't 'choosing' it for himself yet.

Here is how I deal with it or have dealt with it up until now.

To cover all of what we have done as parents could take a long time because it is such a day-to-day thing and we are constantly re-evaluating and improvising but I will attempt to give you the readers digest version of what we do :bigsmile:

I have exposed my son to nature as much as possible from the day he was born. He has walked and talked with every type of animal that exists in our surroundings and now that he is 10-years-old, he has a reverence for all beings that is incredible to witness. He is the peaceful warrior and protector of the tiniest of creatures.

We constantly use nature as a bridge for him to understand what choices he will make in the world as an adult. We observe all the natural intelligences: cycles/energies/harmonies with which the animals and the plants around us co- exist. We also live this ourselves.

We observe how animals play non-stop, how they go to bed when the sun goes down and then awaken with the dawn, how some animals are nocturnal and their role in the world, what animals eat and how intelligent they are in their ability to eat only what they need, when they need it.
We observe how kind animals are to each other and how they will go out of their way to do something for another species without a second thought. We watch a lot of animal documentaries that highlight species co-operation.

We were aware right from the start that violent TV shows/video games/toy weaponry could be a potential issue so once again, we started from a very young age to cultivate an observational awareness around how animals treat each other socially.
We don't have a TV in the house.
When my son was little, rather than playing indoors on video games or watch TV, we had the kids either go to a play centre (if it was too cold outside), go into nature, a playground or we met in a hall for activities. It took up all my time and the effort was enormous but the benefits have been truly spectacular. Now, if the subject of TV ever comes up, my son will shun it and quietly coerce his friends in to doing something else. If it doesn't work and they are still keen on watching it, he leaves the room and his friends soon follow. There is nothing more tempting for a kid than another kid who is having fun!

Some of his friends play violent video games and watch violent TV shows.
Because we have always been out in the world observing and communicating about peace, he has come to his own realisations about what violence does to us both collectively and individually.
I did see him once playing a tank video game when he was about 8 and it was a fantastic opportunity to talk to him about how people are being trained as children, to be drone operators when they are adults. It then led to a discussion about what drone operators do. I didn't even have to go into it much in order for him to see how we are training children to be disconnected from reality and all the programming that goes along with it.
He is such a fantastic kid because he talks to his friends about what they are watching and reading. He actually takes it upon himself to inspire them to do other things...Like daydream and play games ...or do things that are about being in a community.
He has only a few close friends and lots of acquaintances he thinks are friends but they all accept him for who he is.

Because we have talked so much about food and how what animals eat can affect them (and ourselves), it was really easy to make a bridge to how what people watch or read can affect their minds. He makes all the connections now himself between our health and what we eat and our minds and what we put into them. I watch him every day make choices that empower him.
We have known people over time who homeschool that we use as our role models. Their children don't seem to suffer from the "teenage" angst and issues. It is so heartening to see beautiful kids in their teens who are respectful of their peers, parents and parents friends alike.
I have had so many heart-to-heart conversations with these kids and they are like a shining beacon.
Phew..I think I have run out of writing steam now..being dyslexic and all it makes it all the more challenging!

KevBoh
22nd October 2015, 10:37
I have 2 Children. Jac and Soffi, (welsh for Jack and Soffi). Jac is 10 years old in feb, and Soffi has just turned 4.

Soffi came home from school today, singing a song in Welsh that I remember singing in School, thanking Jesus for the school, planet, friends etc. Obviously I'm not going to tell her that Jesus didn't exist, or for her to make her own mind up as she is too young.

Jac on the other hand is 10 as I said. I have told him (as simply as I can) the real reasons behind World Wars, not to listen to indoctrinated crap about Religion etc. I am trying to prepare him, as I feel they are getting brainwashed in School. This has made me more curious about their education/indoctrination. They are learning about the Syrian Migrants and so forth.

How does one teach your child that everything they do in school is a sausage machine design for you to fit in the 'status quo' when leaving school, ready to pay your taxes and contribute to society?

Can anyone who has older children than I have please give me some pointers as to how deep we inform them at certain ages? Will the veil be lifted by the time they get to my age? I'm genuinely worried about this matter... Some insight from my fellow avalonians would be most appreciated.

Thanks :)

Kevin Bohana From Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerwchwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch :)

I say take them out of school and tell them to pursue there dreams and teaching them everything they need to learn along the way and let everything adjust the way it needs to adjust, this is to completely remove the programming and if you aren't to sure about that then atleast home school them

I was also thinking of taking them out from school but school is where their playmates are. Taking them from school is taking play out of their life. to be able to do this you need to find or create an off grid community. where children are not hoarded to school.

If you take them out of School, within a week, the Police comes Knocking.... that's the trouble, I would love to home school them, I also think I would do a better job at it than the State School. We live in a Police State. I read an article about a month ago, these parents were heavily fined and threatened with Jail, alll for taking them on holiday during term time! Thanks for your input :)

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I have 2 Children. Jac and Soffi, (welsh for Jack and Soffi). Jac is 10 years old in feb, and Soffi has just turned 4.

Soffi came home from school today, singing a song in Welsh that I remember singing in School, thanking Jesus for the school, planet, friends etc. Obviously I'm not going to tell her that Jesus didn't exist, or for her to make her own mind up as she is too young.

Jac on the other hand is 10 as I said. I have told him (as simply as I can) the real reasons behind World Wars, not to listen to indoctrinated crap about Religion etc. I am trying to prepare him, as I feel they are getting brainwashed in School. This has made me more curious about their education/indoctrination. They are learning about the Syrian Migrants and so forth.

How does one teach your child that everything they do in school is a sausage machine design for you to fit in the 'status quo' when leaving school, ready to pay your taxes and contribute to society?

Can anyone who has older children than I have please give me some pointers as to how deep we inform them at certain ages? Will the veil be lifted by the time they get to my age? I'm genuinely worried about this matter... Some insight from my fellow avalonians would be most appreciated.

Thanks :)

Kevin Bohana From Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerwchwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch :)

I say take them out of school and tell them to pursue there dreams and teaching them everything they need to learn along the way and let everything adjust the way it needs to adjust, this is to completely remove the programming and if you aren't to sure about that then atleast home school them

I was also thinking of taking them out from school but school is where their playmates are. Taking them from school is taking play out of their life. to be able to do this you need to find or create an off grid community. where children are not hoarded to school.

If you take them out of School, within a week, the Police comes Knocking.... that's the trouble, I would love to home school them, I also think I would do a better job at it than the State School. We live in a Police State. I read an article about a month ago, these parents were heavily fined and threatened with Jail, all for taking them on holiday during term time! Thanks for your input :)

Lancet
22nd October 2015, 11:01
I have 2 kids, 3 and 4 yrs. I tell them interesting night time stories, esp abt space and stars. We gave them 2 pets - rabbit and fish to love and feed. i try to discourage TV and ipads, but it can be useful sometimes. Also Right brain supplementary classes. http://www.shichidamethod.com/index.html.

they need school of course, but i suspect every parent on PA will guide theirs as they see fit.

JT

Marikins
22nd October 2015, 18:07
I guess it depends on the kind of child you want to produce. I would guess it is a self-reliant child who can think for themselves. So I would teach them to first master themselves, with meditation including mindfulness for children. Mindfulness will help them to recognize their own emotions and handle them, rather than react to external stimuli. They will understand others' bad behavior toward them is just about the others.

Also, I think they should have an interior life and many opportunities to use their imagination. Little or no TV and no video games. Encourage their creativity with art, dance, storytelling, music and other creative outlets.

Part of self sufficiency is critical thinking. Rather than volunteering my opinions or conclusions, I might instead ask questions like "What do you think of that?" "Why do you suppose they did that?" "What is useful about that?" "What could we do about that?"

Children absolutely learn more from what we model than what we say. How you conduct yourself, set goals, resolve conflict, give love - all these things children watch and carry into adulthood.

Children are their own unique little souls, and our job is to support and guide them and keep them from making life-wrecking mistakes while giving them the space to learn who they are.

Nasu
22nd October 2015, 18:17
Oh that sneaky old crown, up to her perception games again and winning!

Blighty is rarely a place where you are told your rights, Scotland and Wales are no exception, if by birth or education you don't know, then "they" are most definitely not going to inform you... Remember ignorance of the law is NO defense against it...

Next time you read or watch the news, see how the police state, extends to all media, so be careful who you trust..

Although the perception is that you can NOT homeschool, in fact, you CAN. The process is so simple that if everyone knew about it half the schools in the UK would be abandoned.. Lucky for the crown and her government, most people, like you, beleave it to be illegal, so don't investigate it. Like you, they hear stories of fines and jail time and surmise it is not worth the hassle.. In many ways, this attitude is reflected across the nation and across social spectrums and topics.

So, get ready for the big secret -- YOU have to inform your council and your child's school in writing by letter, that your child will be homeschooled "going forward" and then provide a curriculum for your child...! The curriculum is of your choosing, you don't have to follow any other.. That's it, that's all there is to it.

There is a darker side to this, a somewhat subjective grey area, supposed for the benefit of the child.... You will be expected to do a great job and your local council has the right, so called, to check from time to time, if they deem your effort to be sub par "they" will step in with a compulsory back to school order, forcing you to send them to school... Good old Blighty, control is her middle name..

Not that complicated right? It really is that simple. But don't take my word for it, below is a link to officialdom, the UK government website, that confirms my understanding. Consider yourself informed.... Oh yes, thanks for saying I seem kind, you do too, not sure I am, but I do my best, thank you for your kind words!!.... I hope this helps and wish you the best of luck...

Knowledge is power... N

https://www.gov.uk/home-education

KevBoh
22nd October 2015, 22:48
Oh that sneaky old crown, up to her perception games again and winning!

Blighty is rarely a place where you are told your rights, Scotland and Wales are no exception, if by birth or education you don't know, then "they" are most definitely not going to inform you... Remember ignorance of the law is NO defense against it...

Next time you read or watch the news, see how the police state, extends to all media, so be careful who you trust..

Although the perception is that you can NOT, in fact, you CAN. The process is so simple that if everyone knew about it half the schools in the UK would be abandoned.. Lucky for the crown and her government, most people, like you, beleave it to be illegal, so don't investigate it. Like you, they hear stories of fines and jail time and surmise it is not worth the hassle.. In many ways, this attitude is reflected across the nation and across social spectrums and topics.

So, get ready for the big secret -- YOU have to inform your council and your child's school in writing by letter, that your child will be homeschooled "going forward" and then provide a curriculum for your child...! The curriculum is of your choosing, you don't have to follow any other.. That's it, that's all there is to it.

There is a darker side to this, a somewhat subjective grey area, supposed for the benefit of the child.... You will be expected to do a great job and your local council has the right, so called, to check from time to time, if they deem your effort to be sub par "they" will step in with a compulsory back to school order, forcing you to send them to school... Good old Blighty, control is her middle name..

Not that complicated right? It really is that simple. But don't take my word for it, below is a link to officialdom, the UK government website, that confirms my understanding. Consider yourself informed.... Oh yes, thanks for saying I seem kind, you do too, not sure I am, but I do my best, thank you for your kind words!!.... I hope this helps and wish you the best of luck...

Knowledge is power... N

https://www.gov.uk/home-education

Very appreciated, the thing is, Jac is like one of the lads of his friends, it would alienate him, and he would stand out, am I to play God and deny him the right of choice or monitor what he is learning, while drip feed him information as I see fit to his maturity... It's a tough one.

Thanks :) Kev

Nasu
23rd October 2015, 00:14
That's where I've come to as well. My place is best I feel, putting meat on the table and offering support and guidance outside of a school setting. Some people can be great teachers, not me, I've not got the patience, never mind the time.. It's a tough one.. One step at a time... Ultimately we are all learning, we are just talking about levels and timing really... N

Ps. I find myself spending most of my time arguing with a smaller version of myself, very ironic, to say the least. My kids don't listen to me even half the time, teaching them at home would end up being a joke..

Elainie
23rd October 2015, 01:18
I have 6 children, with my first two (twin girls) I started out homeschooling, then in 3rd grade we moved and they entered a Waldorf school. They stayed there until 7th grade and went onto a prep school. Moved again to a different state and they finished their last 2 years of high-school homeschooled. My 3rd went through Waldorf school, another type private school based loosely on Thích Nhất Hạnh and was then sent to a boarding school for his high-school years. All 3 of those are now in college. 4th child was sent to the Thích Nhất Hạnh school until we moved and she is now in a public high-school. 5th child went through Waldorf school for early years and is now in 6th grade in a public school.

I wish I still lived in the state that the Thích Nhất Hạnh based school is in. My 6th child is 4 years old and from the start I plan on homeschooling him the whole way through. We shall see how that goes. For now it's going well and he's been reading since he turned 4 in July. Parenting is the most difficult job, but is also rewarding (on good days lol).

Constance
23rd October 2015, 02:19
Very appreciated, the thing is, Jac is like one of the lads of his friends, it would alienate him, and he would stand out, am I to play God and deny him the right of choice or monitor what he is learning, while drip feed him information as I see fit to his maturity... It's a tough one.

Thanks :) Kev

I'm not trying to convince you that homeschooling is the path you need to take KevBoh because every situation is different and I can totally understand how this could be an issue for your son. No person wants to be isolated or alienated.
The solution for us came when some of the homeschoolers we knew were switching and going to school. My son now often sees other kids after they have finished school for the day. We get the best of both worlds. He gets to be with me or other homeschoolers during the morning and during the afternoon, he gets to be with his besty after school. No one misses out that way.

We have met so many great people through the homeschooling network. Some have become lifelong friends who are also aware of what is really going on. In fact, many homeschool their children for that very reason.



I have 6 children, with my first two (twin girls) I started out homeschooling, then in 3rd grade we moved and they entered a Waldorf school. They stayed there until 7th grade and went onto a prep school. Moved again to a different state and they finished their last 2 years of high-school homeschooled. My 3rd went through Waldorf school, another type private school based loosely on Thích Nhất Hạnh and was then sent to a boarding school for his high-school years. All 3 of those are now in college. 4th child was sent to the Thích Nhất Hạnh school until we moved and she is now in a public high-school. 5th child went through Waldorf school for early years and is now in 6th grade in a public school.

I wish I still lived in the state that the Thích Nhất Hạnh based school is in. My 6th child is 4 years old and from the start I plan on homeschooling him the whole way through. We shall see how that goes. For now it's going well and he's been reading since he turned 4 in July. Parenting is the most difficult job, but is also rewarding (on good days lol).

Yes Elainie. I would say it is the most challenging job I have ever had! However the most rewarding one too.:bearhug:

Nasu
23rd October 2015, 03:39
Very appreciated, the thing is, Jac is like one of the lads of his friends, it would alienate him, and he would stand out, am I to play God and deny him the right of choice or monitor what he is learning, while drip feed him information as I see fit to his maturity... It's a tough one.

Thanks :) Kev

I'm not trying to convince you that homeschooling is the path you need to take KevBoh because every situation is different and I can totally understand how this could be an issue for your son. No person wants to be isolated or alienated.
The solution for us came when some of the homeschoolers we knew were switching and going to school. My son now often sees other kids after they have finished school for the day. We get the best of both worlds. He gets to be with me or other homeschoolers during the morning and during the afternoon, he gets to be with his besty after school. No one misses out that way.

We have met so many great people through the homeschooling network. Some have become lifelong friends who are also aware of what is really going on. In fact, many homeschool their children for that very reason.



I have 6 children, with my first two (twin girls) I started out homeschooling, then in 3rd grade we moved and they entered a Waldorf school. They stayed there until 7th grade and went onto a prep school. Moved again to a different state and they finished their last 2 years of high-school homeschooled. My 3rd went through Waldorf school, another type private school based loosely on Thích Nhất Hạnh and was then sent to a boarding school for his high-school years. All 3 of those are now in college. 4th child was sent to the Thích Nhất Hạnh school until we moved and she is now in a public high-school. 5th child went through Waldorf school for early years and is now in 6th grade in a public school.

I wish I still lived in the state that the Thích Nhất Hạnh based school is in. My 6th child is 4 years old and from the start I plan on homeschooling him the whole way through. We shall see how that goes. For now it's going well and he's been reading since he turned 4 in July. Parenting is the most difficult job, but is also rewarding (on good days lol).

Yes Elainie. I would say it is the most challenging job I have ever had! However the most rewarding one too.:bearhug:


I take my hat off to both of you. Unless pushed by societal collapse, I will leave that small part of parenting to the school system, but I am jealous that you can. Carry on!xx.... N