Strongest Hurricane Ever recorded! (Patricia, 23 Oct 2015, Mexico)

[Eric J (Viking)]

Strongest Hurricane Ever In The Northern Hemisphere Expected To Make "Catastrophic" Landfall In Mexico Later Today...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...10-23-07-59-14

Viking

[ThePythonicCow]

From wunderground.com ( http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=3165)

Stunning, Historic, Mind-Boggling, and Catastrophic: Hurricane Patricia Hits 200 mph
More at the link.

[Carmody]

guess that's what they get for thinking about legalizing marijuana and ending the fascist originated death spree that has taken over their country.

With weather modification being a real enough thing that there is a signed treaty against it from many years back, well....



Patricia is estimated to have intensified 85 knots (100 mph) in 24 hours, from a tropical storm to a Category 5 hurricane. In the Eastern Pacific, Hurricane Linda of 1997 is the only storm on record to have intensified at this rate. The Atlantic's record holder for largest wind increase in 24 hours is held by Hurricane Wilma of 2005, which intensified from a 60-knot tropical storm to a 150-knot Category 5 hurricane--an increase of 90 knots (105 mph). Air Force reconnaissance observations indicated that the eye of Wilma contracted to a diameter of 2 n mi during this time; this is the smallest eye known to National Hurricane Center (NHC) staff. Patricia's eye diameter was 8 miles at it's peak strength.

[avid]

Has anyone got any evidence of radar weather manipulation, as we know Mexico is prone to a storm or three, but to exacerbate this to such ludicrous heights..? Perhaps to threaten all those who don't believe in carbon taxation globally - the great Climate Change scam? And yes - Carmody ;-)

[ulli]

El Nińo this year is particularly strong, so the waters in the tropical Pacific are hotter than ever, which causes the wind speeds.
Here is a satellite image that will be updated every 30 minutes.
Let's try and put the brakes on this spinning, mentally.
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/images/latest/rmtc/rmtcsasec5ir404.gif

[Inmortal719]

guess that's what they get for thinking about legalizing marijuana and ending the fascist originated death spree that has taken over their country.

With weather modification being a real enough thing that there is a signed treaty against it from many years back, well....


:'( :rain: :raining: :raining: :raining: :raining: :raining: :raining: :raining:

[Wind]

ZuufXLiPzTE

[ThePythonicCow]

According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)/ National Weather Service (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPEP5+shtml/230238.shtml), as of 50+ minutes ago, Patricia was 60 MI...95 KM W OF MANZANILLO MEXICO and 110 MI...175 KM SSW OF CABO CORRIENTES MEXICO, with expected landfall between those two points. It is moving at 14 MPH...22 KM/H. This would put landfall of the eye of the storm at about t 2 to 4 hours into the future, after the time of this post of mine. Of course, by the time the eye hits, half the damage has already been done.

[Sunny-side-up]

CERN hits it's highest ever strength and now the strongest ever Hurricane Ever recorded hits!

[avid]

Selene posted relevant info:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86126-CERN-Scientists-Hope-to-Make-Contact-With-a-Parallel-Universe-Using-the-Large-Hadron-Collider&p=1011988#post1011988

Keep tabs on them there

[Dennis Leahy]

My heart goes out to the people of Mexico that will take the brunt of this awful hurricane...and all the way up to the central US where there may be flooding. Be safe everyone!

[Kristin]

El Nińo this year is particularly strong, so the waters in the tropical Pacific are hotter than ever, which causes the wind speeds.
Here is a satellite image that will be updated every 30 minutes.
Let's try and put the brakes on this spinning, mentally.
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/images/latest/rmtc/rmtcsasec5ir404.gif

Thanks Ulli, do you happen to have a link to this site?

[ghostrider]

Edward Meier predicted we will have storms with 400mph winds ...

[ThePythonicCow]

Thanks Ulli, do you happen to have a link to this site?See "5: Mexico and Central America", on this RAMMB page (http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/rmtc.asp).

[Ron Mauer Sr]

We can join our co-creative efforts to calm the hurricane.

This simple exercise felt good to me, and I shall do it again.
Everyone is welcome. The more the merrier.

Hurricane Patricia

Moving into my heart center.
Feeling love.
Feeling good.

Breathing in strongly and deeply.
I am the hurricane.
Feeling the energy flow.
Exhaling slowly

Breathing in strongly and deeply.
I am gentle.
Exhaling slowly.

Breathing in strongly and deeply.
My work here is done.
Exhaling slowly.

Breathing in strongly and deeply.
I am gentle.
Exhaling slowly.

Also posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1012609&viewfull=1#post1012609).

[ThePythonicCow]

As best as I can read the above maps, Patricia is headed straight for Manzanillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanillo,_Colima), population just over 100,000:


Manzanillo is a city, seat of Manzanillo Municipality, in the Mexican state of Colima. The city, located on the Pacific Ocean, contains Mexico's busiest port that is responsible for handling Pacific cargo for the Mexico City area.

[Inmortal719]

You can all try our official goverment's weather webpage

http://smn.cna.gob.mx/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15&Itemid=86

Just click on Satelite GOES este or Satelite GOES oeste

Here's the translation for each option just in case:
b Infrarroja - Infrared
b Animación - Animation
b Infrarrojo Gama 2 - Infrared Gamma 2
b Vapor de Agua - Water vapour
b Visible - Visible

Below each box you'll find the update time, goes to 15 mins to 3 hours every update

[ThePythonicCow]

You can all try our official goverment's weather webpage
Gracias, Señor.

[ulli]

El Nińo this year is particularly strong, so the waters in the tropical Pacific are hotter than ever, which causes the wind speeds.
Here is a satellite image that will be updated every 30 minutes.
Let's try and put the brakes on this spinning, mentally.
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/images/latest/rmtc/rmtcsasec5ir404.gif

Thanks Ulli, do you happen to have a link to this site?

Here you are. I use it all the time as it has close ups of Barbados as well as Costa Rica. You need to scroll down to get the whole of Central America.
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/rmtc.asp

[ThePythonicCow]

As best as I can read the above maps, Patricia is headed straight for Manzanillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanillo,_Colima), population just over 100,000:


Manzanillo is a city, seat of Manzanillo Municipality, in the Mexican state of Colima. The city, located on the Pacific Ocean, contains Mexico's busiest port that is responsible for handling Pacific cargo for the Mexico City area.
Fortunately, my weather forecasting skills continue to suck.

Ulli reports over here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1012648&viewfull=1#post1012648) that the eye has hit, north of Manzanillo, in a less populated area.

[ThePythonicCow]

From Powerful Hurricane Patricia Bears Down on Mexico (AccuWeather.com) (http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/tropical-threat-heightens-risk/53016886):

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Despite being past its peak and record-breaking intensity, Patricia remains a dangerous hurricane as it slams into southwestern Mexico with catastrophic force into Friday night.

Hurricane Patricia made landfall at approximately 6:15 p.m. CDT Friday along the coast of southwestern Mexico near Cuixmala, Mexico, around 55 miles west-northwest of Manzanillo, Mexico.

http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/includes/columns/newsstory/2015/650x366_10232115_hd31.jpg

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[ulli]

As best as I can read the above maps, Patricia is headed straight for Manzanillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanillo,_Colima), population just over 100,000:


Manzanillo is a city, seat of Manzanillo Municipality, in the Mexican state of Colima. The city, located on the Pacific Ocean, contains Mexico's busiest port that is responsible for handling Pacific cargo for the Mexico City area.
Fortunately, my weather forecasting skills continue to suck.

Ulli reports over here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1012648&viewfull=1#post1012648) that the eye has hit, north of Manzanillo, in a less populated area.

Nothing to do with you lacking skills, Paul.
You just couldn't have factored in the Avalonian weather modification team going to work.

[Carmody]

As best as I can read the above maps, Patricia is headed straight for Manzanillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanillo,_Colima), population just over 100,000:


Manzanillo is a city, seat of Manzanillo Municipality, in the Mexican state of Colima. The city, located on the Pacific Ocean, contains Mexico's busiest port that is responsible for handling Pacific cargo for the Mexico City area.

wel,l well, well.... gee...how did that happen? Mexico city under direct threat, just like that.

[RunningDeer]

Nothing to do with you lacking skills, Paul.
You just couldn't have factored in the Avalonian weather modification team going to work.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/south-west-wind_zpscutqpwq5.jpg

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[Octavusprime]

My GF's parents are in Puerto Vallarta right now. They were staying at one of the resorts and had to be evacuated to a elementary school further inland. Luckily they didn't get hit by the eye of the storm. Still extremely strong winds and rain. Hope they are safe and sound.

[TargeT]

As best as I can read the above maps, Patricia is headed straight for Manzanillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanillo,_Colima), population just over 100,000:


Manzanillo is a city, seat of Manzanillo Municipality, in the Mexican state of Colima. The city, located on the Pacific Ocean, contains Mexico's busiest port that is responsible for handling Pacific cargo for the Mexico City area.

wel,l well, well.... gee...how did that happen? Mexico city under direct threat, just like that.

Don't tease Carmody....

You assume this is a created item? what motivation (other than economically destroying the US's main supply route) ?

[bettye198]

I was just amazed that the headlines on Weather Channel stated Hurricane Patricia strongest on planet Earth. I guess the WC is becoming more innovative with their news. You never hear planet Earth. Anyway, I am convinced this is one more act of sabotage and weather control. Terror paralyzes, makes people impulsive, anxious, worrisome and all that fear is fed upon by the dark aliens. A dystopian world is their oyster. If you start with weather, it destablizes your foundation, your point of reference that confuses. If you nic the economy, your point of base security collapses or at least puts you on the edge of a cliff. If your health goes, your realism takes hold, maybe for the first time. You begin to come back to self, if you are not too far out at sea. Creativity out the window with all this and I am forced to remember, that is the one thing that tethers us to Source without question. I believe we are all at a nexus point where we are putting all the puzzle pieces together and they fit.
Stay in the Love, all.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

As best as I can read the above maps, Patricia is headed straight for Manzanillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanillo,_Colima), population just over 100,000:

Manzanillo is a city, seat of Manzanillo Municipality, in the Mexican state of Colima. The city, located on the Pacific Ocean, contains Mexico's busiest port that is responsible for handling Pacific cargo for the Mexico City area.

wel,l well, well.... gee...how did that happen? Mexico city under direct threat, just like that.

Don't tease Carmody....

You assume this is a created item? what motivation (other than economically destroying the US's main supply route) ?

This video suggests the hurricane is related to Mexican oil companies switching from dollars to the yuan.

(Update: The presenter is not credible)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Z1WQdrDrU

[ThePythonicCow]

You assume this is a created item? what motivation (other than economically destroying the US's main supply route) ?
The elite bastards have been destroying the US, financially, economically, politically, and whatever other way they can, for decades.

Shooting off yet another American foot to spite Mexico for having 1.5 independent thoughts in a month sounds to me like something that would be right up the ally of these bastards.

(I have no idea how much, if any, influence these elite bastards had on hurricane Patricia, but Carmody's inuendo would not surprise me at all.)

[ThePythonicCow]

This video suggests the hurricane is related to Mexican oil companies switching from dollars to the yuan.I can't find any confirmation on the web that this has happened - that Mexico switched its oil from the Dollar to the Yuan.

Can anyone else?

Oh - and one matter of fact I disagree with this Youtuber on - once Patricia crosses Mexico, its winds will be dramatically reduced, and not likely to inflict serious harm on Mexico's oil wells in the Caribbean.

The Dr. William Mount who has just started producing those videos (this seems to be his third such in a week) credits Jim Willie, of the GoldenJackass.com, for some of his information. Jim Willie's monthly newsletter just came out in the last 4 hours (not there when I checked 4 hours ago, but is there, in the members only area, now.) Jim Willie says of the conversion of the sale of Gulf region (that's Saudi Arabia and the Persian/Arabian gulf oil kingdoms, not the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean nations) oil from Dollars to Yuan:
The big zinger in the Jackass book is Gulf region oil payments done in RMB terms, a step that comes soon.
That's "soon", not "already", as of a few hours ago. And that's Saudi Arabia and other OPEC nations in that region, not Mexico. I have yet to see, so far as I recall, Jim Willie anticipating Mexico flipping to the Yuan soon.

My hunch is that Dr. William Mount, wittingly or not, is sending up flak in Jim Willie's direction ... taking his material and other such material, and then simplifying, sensationalizing and mangling it sufficiently so as to confuse viewers and discredit Jim Willie.

I will now spend much of the next couple of days, as I do every month at this time, reading Jim Willie's 400 KByte monthly newsletter (jammed pack with details, in Jim's terse and irreverent writing style.)

[ThePythonicCow]

I prepended "(Patricia, 23 Oct 2015, Mexico)" to this thread's title, since with time we will lose track of which storm this thread discusses, without actually opening the thread to read.

[Eric J (Viking)]

On the edge of a climatic abyss...wonder they meant by that..?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i0PB4UyToVo

Viking

[ThePythonicCow]

Jim Willie says of the conversion of the sale of Gulf region (that's Saudi Arabia and the Persian/Arabian gulf oil kingdoms, not the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean nations) oil from Dollars to Yuan:
The big zinger in the Jackass book is Gulf region oil payments done in RMB terms, a step that comes soon.Elsewhere in his newsletter this month, Jim writes again the same prediction:
A SHOCK SOON COMES FROM ENDED USD-BASED CRUDE OIL SALES AMONG ALL THE GULF EMIRATE NATIONS PLUS IRAN... OIL SALES IN RMB TERMS WOULD BE A FATAL BLOW TO THE USDOLLAR PRESTIGE AND ACTUAL OPERATING STATUS, RENDERING THE USD IRRELEVANT.
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So, to sum, I do not agree with Dr. William Mount that Patricia will destroy the Mexican oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico, after Patricia has crossed the land mass of Mexico, and I do not agree that Mexico has just converted from selling oil in US Dollars to selling oil in Chinese Renminbi (RMB, Yuan).

[Bill Ryan]

This video suggests the hurricane is related to Mexican oil companies switching from dollars to the yuan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Z1WQdrDrU

This is William Mount. The last time I saw a William Mount video, about 5 weeks ago, he was saying an asteroid was going to impact Earth on 23 September.

I counted a dozen major errors in that video in the first three minutes, and stopped watching. I fully expect this one to be similar. :silent:

[Operator]

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20HURRICANE&lat=12&lon=-88&zoom=4&width=800&height=600&type=Animation&palette=spect.pal&mapcolor=orange&quality=100

Above link will not be valid over time ...

But at the time now when it passes it looks impressive for its size but there isn't a clear formed eye and it's not turning that clearly either :confused:

[ThePythonicCow]

But at the time now when it passes it looks impressive for its size but there isn't a clear formed eye and it's not turning that clearly either :confused:
Some of the higher resolution images I saw earlier today showed a quite clearly formed eye, of unusually small diameter. I suspect that this image lacks sufficient resolution to show that.

Here's a permanent copy of just one frame of the image you linked to, on my server:

http://thepythoniccow.us/Patricia_Hurricane.jpg

[ThePythonicCow]

Some of the higher resolution images I saw earlier today showed a quite clearly formed eye, of unusually small diameter. I suspect that this image lacks sufficient resolution to show that.


Here's one such higher resolution, satellite image, from several hours before landfall, showing a clearly formed eye:

http://thepythoniccow.us/1796v1_20151023-HURPatricia.jpg

[araucaria]

Nothing to do with you lacking skills, Paul.
You just couldn't have factored in the Avalonian weather modification team going to work.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/south-west-wind_zpscutqpwq5.jpg

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Well, someone has to have been doing something: the biggest ever with zero casualties? The mountain has given birth to a mouse, as we say.

[Carmody]

Well, someone has to have been doing something: the biggest ever with zero casualties? The mountain has given birth to a mouse, as we say.

That's a Typhon pun.

(but some will be confused and say "It's all Greek to me....")

The point is that the legalization of marijuana in Mexico would likely (eventually) end their current internal drug war woes, almost entirely. Same for Canada legalizing marijuana (New prime Minister's promise), regarding the connected issues outlined below.

The US is set up as a police state with corporate black ops running rampant THROUGH the mechanism of the drug wars--- as cover, finance, and societal control. (original modern thrust origin)

The same people created and control the weather modification hardware as created the prisons, the jails, the bleed of the public coffers, the expansion of police powers, and the separation of the unity of the people against clandestine or open corporate rule of the world.

All this done through the said complex package of the drug wars, both in and out of the USA. The drug wars underpin their thrust, their 'casus belli', their 'false created fake reason' cover story for getting their way, without the bulk of the western population catching on to the scheme.

There's a good hundred trillion dollars of financial mass and complex machinery that does not want to see marijuana legalized in Mexico and Canada. Such a move would result in an alteration of their desired direction and it's efficiencies, it's mechanisms, it's sequence of steps....all that as an eventual shift, over time.

So they continue this asymmetrical warfare with good solid cover stories, like the people not being able to understand that such weather control and modification is possible with the hardware that is built and out there.

When I look at things like this storm, and what it might have meant, if it had just a hair more direction...this is what I see. This I what I start with as premise, as a backdrop in potentials.

It's not paranoid fantasy to see this storm's potential origins (specifically it's sudden shift and change) through those eyes, when all the data I speak of (to base speculation upon) is fully possible to prove.

[PurpleLama]

Patricia formed suddenly on Tuesday as a tropical storm and quickly strengthened to a hurricane. Within 30 hours it had grown to a record-beating category five storm, catching many off guard with its rapid growth. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/24/hurricane-patricia-batters-mexico-with-165mph-winds-rain-and-storm-surges)

It usually takes much longer for such a storm to form, the techniques and technologies must be getting better.

[Carmody]

Patricia formed suddenly on Tuesday as a tropical storm and quickly strengthened to a hurricane. Within 30 hours it had grown to a record-beating category five storm, catching many off guard with its rapid growth. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/24/hurricane-patricia-batters-mexico-with-165mph-winds-rain-and-storm-surges)

It usually takes much longer for such a storm to form, the techniques and technologies must be getting better.

Looking at the videos, if I was there, I would have spent some time in the face of the storm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjudwPvS6eI). I would not be in a shelter. Once in a lifetime opportunity, a life based on the memory of the peaks and valleys, as moments of inflection, shaping, and recall. Perspective comes from such experience(s).

[jake gittes]

Nothing to do with you lacking skills, Paul.
You just couldn't have factored in the Avalonian weather modification team going to work.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/south-west-wind_zpscutqpwq5.jpg

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Well, someone has to have been doing something: the biggest ever with zero casualties? The mountain has given birth to a mouse, as we say.

Not sure if it's what you meant, but the figurative expression is true literally; tall mountains obliterate hurricanes quickly. The high mountains in Cuba and the D.R. routinely knock down Atlantic basin hurricanes. By contrast, when Hurricane Wilma crossed Florida from the Gulf Coast to the Atlantic Coast in 2005, the damage was actually worse on the Atlantic side because the storm continued to strengthen as it passed over the storm-feeding hot water of the Everglades and there are no mountains in Florida to stop storms.


I was just amazed that the headlines on Weather Channel stated Hurricane Patricia strongest on planet Earth. I guess the WC is becoming more innovative with their news. You never hear planet Earth. Anyway, I am convinced this is one more act of sabotage and weather control.

I'm not sure innovative would be how I describe TWC since being acquired by NBC. They may have added bells and whistles, but they subtracted a lot of science, which was probably the mission anyway: control the information. Kinda like:

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/government-implements-illegal-gag-order-on-national-weather-service-and-noaa/


The power structure is beginning to panic as the public wakes up to the criminal climate engineering insanity. The growing police state is completely out of control and becoming unimaginably blatant with their actions. In recent weeks Washington has placed "gag orders" on the following agency employees, "The National Weather Service", the "National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration", and the "US Department of Commerce". This is a massive red flag that should trigger alarm bells everywhere.

Bill Hopkins, the executive vice president for the National Weather Service employees organization (NWSEO) said this:

“As a taxpayer, I find it highly disturbing that a government agency continues to push gag orders to hide how they operate. This is the work of the American government, owned by the American public, and should be open to the American public.”

Jeff Ruch, the executive director "PEER" (Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility) said this about the "gag orders".

“The National Weather Service is about the last place where national security-style secrecy rules need to be enforced,” Ruch noted that the broad scope of the gag orders put much of what goes on inside the agency under wraps. “Everyone is free to talk about the weather except for the people working inside the National Weather Service. Go figure.”

Some time ago I personally spoke to an NOAA scientist that said "we all know it is going on (climate engineering) but we are afraid to speak out, we have no first amendment protection". The new "gag order" is a further muzzling of the NWS and NOAA. It is likely there are many in the National Weather Service and NOAA that have had enough of lying about what is really going on in our skies.

As for HAARP-type manipulation of Patricia, I wouldn't be surprised. As was pointed out earlier in this thread, El Nino years are known for much warmer Pacific waters, a prime ingredient for tropical storms. But intensity of storms tends to fluctuate, they don't naturally continue to intensify exponentially, especially when they get really strong. There's some warbling that occurs, leading to weakening. Powerful storms normally - naturally - lose a little steam as they make landfall.

I didn't follow this one, but I've followed storms for roughly 20 years due to employment ramifications, but just the sound of Pat's intensification stuck in the "on" position caught my attention. It reminded me of Katrina in '05. The Gulf waters were/are very warm, so the initial intensification wasn't a surprise. The persistent strengthening was, however. I remember thinking even then, which was before I jumped completely down the rabbit hole, that it seemed like unnatural strengthening -- the thing never warbled. It was like its route was being zapped with a laser to heat the water immediately in its path to continue strengthening, kind of like priming the path of the stone in Olympic curling. The goal may not be utter destruction or commandeering prime real estate (like in New Orleans), but propagating the whole ridiculous "global warming" meme (carbon tax, cough-cough!).

[Hervé]

Anyone remembering those:


Here are two pictures from the OP first link:


http://sincedutch.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/mexico-vortex-ring-oct-28-2012.jpg?w=1024&h=560


http://sincedutch.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/mexico-haarp-ringa1aaaaa.jpg?w=1024&h=549

[Patrikas]

From Jim Stones website who says he lives within 150 miles of Patricias landfall:

DID YOU KNOW: Two days before this hurricane, a gag order was placed on NOAA and other government weather reporting agencies, stating that anyone in those agencies who spoke up against the "official" line would be criminally prosecuted. And why would that be?

How far across is a hurricane? Good estimate - 200 - 300 miles. How far across is the eye? 30 - 50 miles. This means that even if the hurricane scored a perfect shot between Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta, neither of those cities could have been less than 25-35 miles away from the eye wall. No damage in either of these cities, from a 220 plus mph windy eye wall, which should have had at least 150 mph winds extending 30 miles out on both sides means NOAA AND THE U.S. WEATHER REPORTING AGENCIES FAKED THIS HURRICANE.

Link to full article :

http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamericayouprobablycantseethis2.html

[Operator]

But at the time now when it passes it looks impressive for its size but there isn't a clear formed eye and it's not turning that clearly either :confused:
Some of the higher resolution images I saw earlier today showed a quite clearly formed eye, of unusually small diameter. I suspect that this image lacks sufficient resolution to show that.

Here's a permanent copy of just one frame of the image you linked to, on my server:

http://thepythoniccow.us/Patricia_Hurricane.jpg


Thanks Paul for that freeze-frame pic that keeps at least part of it stored. I know there are higher resolution images but I
normally use this tool because you have some control over where to look (latitude and longitude), zoom factor etc. via de url.

Additionally it moves because of the multiple frames you get a better idea of the dynamics of a storm. That's why
I noticed that this storm deviates from what I normally see ...

Even in case of Cat1 or Cat2 hurricanes you can very clearly see the eye of the hurricane and see it spinning counter clockwise
(I normally look at the Atlantic ones) with 'arms' spiraling out sucking all kind of bad weather over hundreds of miles toward
the eye. Although hurricanes are seldom near the south of the Caribbean it's the spiraling arms that can cause bad weather in
my neck of the woods.

Compared to images of previous less significant storms Patricia is hardly spinning at all and should have had a much better defined
eye ... just my 2 cents ...

[Hervé]

Weird dot connections,, from an article linked by Limor (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86246-Look-what-I-just-found-on-UFO-Moon-Rising-video-&p=1012797&viewfull=1#post1012797):


Obama mocks skeptics of climate change as ‘flat-Earth society’

By Justin Sink (http://thehill.com/author/justin-sink) June 25, 2013, 06:40 pm


President Obama angrily blasted climate change skeptics during his energy policy speech Tuesday at Georgetown University, saying he lacked "patience for anyone who denies that this problem is real."

"We don't have time for a meeting of the flat-Earth society," Obama said. "Sticking your head in the sand might make you feel safer, but it's not going to protect you from the coming storm."

[...]

The president noted that the 12 warmest years in recorded history have all come within the last 15 years, and said that rising temperatures were increasing the severity and impact of storms.

[...]

“In a world that's warmer than it used to be, all weather events are affected by the warming planet,” Obama said.
See?

That's the puppeteer orchestration of events: "See all these weird weather phenomena? That's because climate change and a warming planet are true! Now pay up your carbon taxes!"

No wonder NOAA got gagged!

[Citizen No2]

Anyone else get the impression this was all a bit of a non-event?

Dare I say.......... Hoax?


Regards.

[TargeT]

The point is that the legalization of marijuana in Mexico would likely (eventually) end their current internal drug war woes, almost entirely. Same for Canada legalizing marijuana (New prime Minister's promise), regarding the connected issues outlined below.

The US is set up as a police state with corporate black ops running rampant THROUGH the mechanism of the drug wars--- as cover, finance, and societal control. (original modern thrust origin)


if that is the motivation "too little too late" comes to mind....... It almost seems too sloppy and not through enough.



It's not paranoid fantasy to see this storm's potential origins (specifically it's sudden shift and change) through those eyes, when all the data I speak of (to base speculation upon) is fully possible to prove.

Absolutely worth exploring, however I do not think this is the case here... or if it is it's a massive "shot over the bow" and we will see conciliatory follow on actions (policy changes, etc..) which I also doubt will happen.



Might just mother earth doing what she does... "worst hurricane ever" is a huge misnomer (mostly because the word "ever" was used).


Anyone else get the impression this was all a bit of a non-event?

Dare I say.......... Hoax?


Regards.

or a test of the populaces response... if weather fear won't do it, look elsewhere! (clearly terrorism has lost it's "pull", is this a scramble to find the "hot button" for steering society? or just a natural event.... )

[Operator]

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or a test of the populaces response... if weather fear won't do it, look elsewhere! (clearly terrorism has lost it's "pull", is this a scramble to find the "hot button" for steering society? or just a natural event.... )

Yeah, spot on ... I would bet on this possibility as very likely :muscle:

[jake gittes]

From Jim Stones website who says he lives within 150 miles of Patricias landfall:

DID YOU KNOW: Two days before this hurricane, a gag order was placed on NOAA and other government weather reporting agencies, stating that anyone in those agencies who spoke up against the "official" line would be criminally prosecuted. And why would that be?

How far across is a hurricane? Good estimate - 200 - 300 miles. How far across is the eye? 30 - 50 miles. This means that even if the hurricane scored a perfect shot between Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta, neither of those cities could have been less than 25-35 miles away from the eye wall. No damage in either of these cities, from a 220 plus mph windy eye wall, which should have had at least 150 mph winds extending 30 miles out on both sides means NOAA AND THE U.S. WEATHER REPORTING AGENCIES FAKED THIS HURRICANE.

Link to full article :

http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamericayouprobablycantseethis2.html

Wow, excellent find, Patrikas. I read JS regularly and hadn't checked his site yet today. The official report makes absolutely no sense. A record-breaking, churning CAT 5 suddenly falls apart before landfall?? BWAHAHAHA! What a CROCK. That does NOT happen. Real hurricanes wind down after interaction with land mass. The more rugged the land mass, the quicker the wind-down. But NO damage from a CAT 5? NOT POSSIBLE. NO deaths? Highly unlikely. I've studied hurricanes and their aftermath for 20 years and this report is antithetical to two decades of data.

[Kristin]

Makes me wonder if this was not some sort of test run of tech. Let's see how fast we can conjure up a hurricane and then let's see how fast we can make it go away. If they are going for precision, that would be the way to do it and a perfect place as well. Having been a Katrina survivor myself, I am completely amazed that there are not pics of major coastal damage. That was a tight eye! The forest would be brown and decimated right up to the foothills. Banana trees every where, palm trees sticking horizontally through houses etc.

Now if this was a fake, why do a fake? Well, if you wanted to move a large amount of people quickly into FEMA camps, that would be one way to do it. Hmmm. It's all very interesting. I find the background with Carmody's points equally as valid. Nothing would surprise me these days.

Kudos to the healers who put forth positive outcome intentions. Regardless of this storms origins, validity, and reason. Good on all of you!!!

(Oh, and let's not forget to look for dustification of some major building!)

From the Heart,
Kristin

[Eric J (Viking)]

I have some friends on holiday in the supposed affected areas ... interesting to see what impact the storm really had...they should be back 2 weeks time..keep you posted.

Viking

[ThePythonicCow]

I have some friends on holiday in the supposed affected areas ... interesting to see what impact the storm really had...they should be back 2 weeks time..keep you posted.

Viking
Yes - that could be quite interesting - let us know as soon as you can - thanks!

[ThePythonicCow]

Jim Stone does have a reputation, of which he's probably proud, of seeing hoax's in more places than most of us. But ... he's often closer to right than most of us, too. In this case, he was living only 150 miles from where the eye of the storm supposedly made landfall, so he's closer to the scene of whatever happened than most of us.

I'm going to repost here some more of Jim Stone's article on Hurricane Patricia (http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamericayouprobablycantseethis2.html)

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IT IS OFFICIAL: HURRICANE PATRICIA NEVER EXISTED AND IS A U.S. GOVERNMENT SPONSORED GLOBAL WARMING HOAX

"Eye wall" which only exists in computer models went directly over Puerto Vallarta, yet there were no significant winds and there was no damage or deaths, only heavy rain!

This hoax hurricane arrived two days after the U.S. federal government threatened all NOAA and other weather agencies that if they went against the "official word" they would be jailed for breaking a gag order

MEXICAN NEWS GAVE THE FINAL REPORT ON THE HURRICANE: NO NEWS

I am calling it as it is: The so-called cat 5 world record hurricane was a tropical storm that turned into a tropical depression 100 miles off the Mexican coast, and it caused zero damage on arrival. Though the Mexican news is still calling it a cat 5, there is a surprised tone to it all, because there was no damage anywhere and no deaths. This was a fake hurricane that will hit the books as real, to provide fodder for the climate change scam.

UPDATE: All the pictures are computer generated models. The Mexican press aired footage of the real deal, and it totally dissipated 50 - 100 miles off the coast with no distinguishable eye, and hit the coast as only clouds. The "hurricane" supposedly made landfall closest to Puerto Vallarta, between the cities of Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta. It supposedly took a track that should have destroyed both cities and totally obliterated the Mexican coast between those two cities. The American scam press is saying that it hit a "remote area of Mexico's coastline" to explain no damage. What they are not saying is that it is only 100 miles from Manzanillo to Puerto Vallarta. No damage in either city means there was no hurricane AT ALL. And there are several significant towns with populations over 20,000 between Puerto Vallarta and Manzanillo. There is no such thing as a "remote stretch of Mexican coastline", it is 100 percent populated the entire way.

No deaths and no property damage ANYWHERE are being reported. All the Mexican press is saying is that there is "no news" and the hurricane is officially gone. The rain has already stopped in Puerto Vallarta and Manzanillo. This "category 5" was at best a tropical depression.

I sort of figured something was amiss last night when not a single whisper of wind happened, even though I was supposed to be in the damage path. From the reports, I figured the winds would be 100 mph here. NOT A WHISPER OF WIND HAPPENED AT ALL. It was a calm night.

Here is the news from Puerto Vallarta:

"The Sokols, a family of five from suburban Detroit, were supposed to fly out of Puerto Vallarta on Friday but ended up for hours in a shelter at a university after their flight was canceled. By night they were back where they began: at their hotel, and no worse for wear. "It's amazing it went from the worst in history to just some heavy rain," Susanna Sokol said.

My response: No, it is not surprising, with a gag order on U.S. climate scientists threatening prison if they speak up and say something other than the official word, a huge carbon tax, and a global warming/climate scam to uphold (which a world record hurricane that is off the charts would support), I don't find it surprising AT ALL that all it ended up being was tropical rain.

"CAT 5 PLUS WORLD DOOM HURRICANE PATRICIA WAS JUST A TROPICAL DEPRESSION, NOTHING SIGNIFICANT HAPPENED.
UPDATE: NO HURRICANE, ONLY A TROPICAL DEPRESSION, HIT MEXICO

And low and behold, two days before this hurricane, the U.S. federal government placed a gag order on NOAA weather officials and others in the U.S., saying they would face jail time if they spoke up against the "official" word given by the government. Why would they do that? Because they needed a huge storm on the records to support the climate change lie and they did not want people calling their bluff, THAT'S WHY.

Ok, a little math here:

How far across is a hurricane? Good estimate - 200 - 300 miles. How far across is the eye? 30 - 50 miles. This means that even if the hurricane scored a perfect shot between Manzanillo and Puerto Vallarta, neither of those cities could have been less than 25-35 miles away from the eye wall. No damage in either of these cities, from a 220 plus mph windy eye wall, which should have had at least 150 mph winds extending 30 miles out on both sides means NOAA AND THE U.S. WEATHER REPORTING AGENCIES FAKED THIS HURRICANE.

One strange hurricane

I am holding off on calling it a hoax until I get more info, but this is what happened where I am: NOTHING.

Ok, there was a quarter inch of rain last night. But the biggest thing I noticed this morning was blasting music that was way too loud coming from somewhere. There was a super mild rain. There was never any wind AT ALL. Nothing happened, and I am only 150 miles from where this thing made landfall, and it was supposed to be headed (sort of) in my direction. If this thing was even a normal category 1, there should have been at least 30 - 40 mph winds, possibly 100 mph winds and there was NOTHING. So I am going to say what people should see in the news, or this thing is FAKE.

...
And why would they hoax it? To get their "world record storm" for the global warming scam, that is why. Come on now, THE FREAKING LIGHTS ARE ON AND THERE IS A HUGE PARTY SOMEWHERE, not a whisper of wind, NOTHING AT ALL going on here, and even though I was not in the direct path, I was at least in the strong weather path and nothing at all is simply not possible.

DID YOU KNOW: Two days before this hurricane, a gag order was placed on NOAA and other government weather reporting agencies, stating that anyone in those agencies who spoke up against the "official" line would be criminally prosecuted. And why would that be?
So far I am only going off of what happened where I am, but it was so starkly against what was stated to be happening that I am very suspicious.

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[ThePythonicCow]

Someday, I'm going to learn ... if it's in the "news", it's a lie. And if it's the truth, it's not in the news. Period. Full stop. :)

... and if a wee bit of truth does escape to the "news", it will be buried in fourteen false variants, and the truth teller discredited, drowned out, or destroyed.

I went from eating a food diet that could easily be found at any local 24 hour convenience store, next to the gas pumps, to knowing that every, single, morsel, even the water, in those stores is more or less toxic.

The same must happen for news. If it's on the main stream news, it must be toxic.

[Raven]

these pictures from a little town - La Manzanilla - 17 miles south of where Patricia hit land - it is from a facebook site so not sure how it will post here? can also see at VisitLaManzanilla.com
https://www.facebook.com/VisitLaManzanilla/photos/pcb.10153307162372804/10153307161952804/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=910140759074766&set=pcb.910141592408016&type=3&theater

[Innocent Warrior]

That's pretty interesting about what Jim Stone wrote, if it's true he has a pretty solid argument.

Cyclone Marcia (Feb 2015) made landfall at a category five (highest category), roughly 750 kms up the coast from where I live, it had gusts of up to 250 kms per hour. We were in the direct path of Marcia, it was forecasted to be at a category one, by the time it hit us, but was a tropical low by the time it did. We were mostly concerned about the flooding here. Thankfully the flooding was only minor. Anyway, point is, you could certainly see the effects of the cyclone, even from all the way down here. This is what my city looked like, as it made landfall up the coast;

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/content/dam/images/1/3/j/l/0/y/image.gallery.galleryLandscape.620x414.13j3jx.png/1424373491883.jpg

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2015/02/20/1227232/899989-9f418742-b8d9-11e4-b7ec-622016158095.jpg

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6161564-3x2-940x627.jpg

[ThePythonicCow]

it is from a facebook site so not sure how it will post here?
They posted fine for me ... thanks!

Here's is what the damage from a "smaller" Cat 4 Hurricane looks like -- except for one amazing house, just a barren field of debris:

http://thepythoniccow.us/Hurricane_Ike_Gilchrist_damage_edit.jpg
Photo Credits (http://thepythoniccow.us/Hurricane_Ike_Gilchrist_damage_edit.txt)

[RunningDeer]

Thank you. Thank you, you silly ones. You kicked-up my resolve another notch. I thought I was at optimal level. And I see. I see much broader than I could’ve fathomed just minutes ago.

Silly ones, here’s your PayPal button?

[jake gittes]

I see some storm surge damage but very little wind damage. CAT 5 - no way.

In the shot of Casa De Regalos with the bent-over sign (which is a top-heavy wind catcher), if this had really been CAT 5, those hanging fabric signs would have been torn to shreds and those faux clay tile roof sheets on the upper level roof would have ALL blown off, not just a few sheets. How is the red towel/wall hanging even still there? The thatch roof on top of the purple building would be long gone.

There is very little roof debris in the streets, just a few clay roof tiles. I see ONE piece of roof tin. It's mostly just palm fronds and storm surge debris. When Wilma hit S.Fla in '05, there was extensive roof tile damage - partly because of faulty construction, but it was much more prevalent and this storm was allegedly comparable to that.

In the interior shots of the room with the barred windows and debris on the floor, the damage is from storm surge flood, stuff moved around by water. Judging by the window, it's not far from the beach. Had there really been 165-mph winds, that stuff on the wall would have been blown off.

MOst of the damage I see appears to be from storm surge and the debris it moved around -- much of it likely beach huts and gazebo-type structures from the beach -- that banged into gates, knocking them open. Wind damage is minimal. 165-mph winds would have blown more coconuts out of the trees! The little plants in the big pots aren't even bent!

[ThePythonicCow]

Thank you. Thank you, you silly ones. You kicked-up my resolve another notch. I thought I was at optimal level. And I see. I see much broader than I could’ve fathomed just minutes ago.
So ... is all this evidence of the success of the Avalonian weather modification team, or the dastardly deceptions of the bastards in power ?

I don't know how to find the answer to that question ... :)

[RunningDeer]

Thank you. Thank you, you silly ones. You kicked-up my resolve another notch. I thought I was at optimal level. And I see. I see much broader than I could’ve fathomed just minutes ago.
So ... is all this evidence of the success of the Avalonian weather modification team, or the dastardly deceptions of the bastards in power ?

I don't know how to find the answer to that question ... :)

Both, cuz that's what we, the Avalonian weather modification team, do. You see, we're a multi-level team.

Silly bastards are getting stupider and we're shinning brighter. It really is all pretend. They're being to believe it's real and we're waking up to the fact that it's not.

:wave:

PS quick answer... running out the door to family gathering...

[jake gittes]

I should have clarified in my last post that I was commenting on the photos in the two Facebook links.

I have done google image searches for Patricia and other storms and there are hardly any damage photos from Patricia. Real storms show real damage. Patricia does not. Had there been any, it would be plastered all over the media to show how horrible we all are for thoughtlessly exhaling carbon dioxide so many times a day!

[idiit]

I have done google image searches for Patricia and other storms and there are hardly any damage photos from Patricia. Real storms show real damage. Patricia does not.

exactly. interesting to follow this one.

[ulli]

Thank you. Thank you, you silly ones. You kicked-up my resolve another notch. I thought I was at optimal level. And I see. I see much broader than I could’ve fathomed just minutes ago.
So ... is all this evidence of the success of the Avalonian weather modification team, or the dastardly deceptions of the bastards in power ?

I don't know how to find the answer to that question ... :)

My take is this: there was a Cat 1, or maybe 2.
The media exaggerated and hyped it to a Cat 5.
For whatever reason; maybe the usual data mining they have become so good at.
Being a tad gullible the AWMT still decided to give it their attention.
(AWMT= Avalon Weather Modification Team)

[araucaria]

The first part of this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1006563&viewfull=1#post1006563) offers some thoughts on advances in weather forecasting: they should only be possible if weather patterns are becoming more, not less, normal. In other words, freak events should not be predictable at all. There is scientific evidence to suggest that such phenomena as earthquakes, forest fires, or stock exchange collapses never “know” in advance how big they are going to be (see Mark Buchanan, Ubiquity, The Science of History… or Why the World is Simpler Than We Think). It may be that greater effort on one side (weather control) is simply cancelled out by greater effort on the other side (the AWMT), and the result is weather within normal limits in the normal way. Maybe no one has quite as much power as they think.



Whatever lessons historians may be able to draw from all this, the meaning for the individual is more ambiguous. For if the world is organized into a critical state, or something much like it, then even the smallest forces can have tremendous effects. In our social and cultural networks, there can be no isolated act, for our world is designed – not by us, but by forces of nature – so that even the tiniest of acts will be amplified and registered by the larger world. The individual, then, has power, and yet the nature of that power reflects a kind of irreducible existential predicament. If every individual act may ultimately have great consequences, those consequences are almost entirely unforeseeable. Out there right now on some red square in the field of history a grain may be about to fall. Someone trying to bring warring parties to terms may succeed, or may instead spark a conflagration. Someone trying to stir up conflict may usher in a lengthy term of peace. In our world, beginnings bear little relationship to endings, and Albert Camus was right: “All great thoughts have ridiculous beginnings”.

[Operator]

Thank you. Thank you, you silly ones. You kicked-up my resolve another notch. I thought I was at optimal level. And I see. I see much broader than I could’ve fathomed just minutes ago.
So ... is all this evidence of the success of the Avalonian weather modification team, or the dastardly deceptions of the bastards in power ?

I don't know how to find the answer to that question ... :)

Double whammy, both are true Paul ... Their spells and magic simply stopped working because it requires an audience believing it ...

[jake gittes]

My take is this: there was a Cat 1, or maybe 2.
The media exaggerated and hyped it to a Cat 5.
For whatever reason; maybe the usual data mining they have become so good at.
Being a tad gullible the AWMT still decided to give it their attention.
(AWMT= Avalon Weather Modification Team)

The problem -- the very big problem -- is that it was said to be a CAT 5 and backed up with satellite imagery by the National Weather Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, two entities which are supposed to report accurately about such systems. It's their job! The media will always hype it, but if it's reported to be a CAT 5 by the NWS and NOAA, who provide the satellite imagery supporting a CAT 5 system, then it needs to be hyped for those in harm's way.

There's also the very troubling aspect of their issuing of gag orders two days prior. This strongly suggests a case of deliberately misleading the public that something far more severe was occurring. This is looking like it was the Sandy Hook of storms.

[Patrikas]

I thought i would add these links also from Jimstones website to show how this has been happening for some time & to perhaps add a few more dots to the picture i think its relevent to this thread i hope the Op and the mods think so too ...
Remember cyclone Sandy that came ashore near New York almost 3 years ago to the day .....

Full report from Jimstone here
http://jimstonefreelance.com/sandyhaarp.html

And this report originally from early 2012 but extensively updated in 2014 regarding his views about HAARP and also a good technical explanation of how it works with regards to weather modification and also facts about how NASA knew there were "electrical" anomalies with the big cyclones of 2005 EMILY RITA AND KATRINA

full report from Jimstone here;
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/haarp.html

[ThePythonicCow]

Double whammy, both are true Paul ... Their spells and magic simply stopped working because it requires an audience believing it ...
But we did believe it, until the day after, when the reports of modest damage and no deaths told us otherwise.


The problem -- the very big problem -- is that it was said to be a CAT 5 and backed up with satellite imagery by the National Weather Service and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, two entities which are supposed to report accurately about such systems. It's their job! The media will always hype it, but if it's reported to be a CAT 5 by the NWS and NOAA, who provide the satellite imagery supporting a CAT 5 system, then it needs to be hyped for those in harm's way.

There's also the very troubling aspect of their issuing of gag orders two days prior. This strongly suggests a case of deliberately misleading the public that something far more severe was occurring. This is looking like it was the Sandy Hook of storms.
Yeah :).

At present, the evidence tells us that they spent a couple of days having NWS and NOAA falsely hype this storm, with wildly false images and data, and with an internal gag order to prevent anyone leaking this lie.

Then, unlike Sandy Hook, where the official story (and hence most of the sleeping majority) still support the mass shooting story years later, instead, in the case of Patricia, what I suppose is the reality of minimal damage, no deaths, and modest winds a day later, was allowed in the "news".

This is weird ... two days of totally fabricated hype ... then back to some approximation of what is I presume a far more mundane reality.

... and it will still work for the bastards ... years from now, if you ask someone to list major hurricanes, one percent will recall Patricia as a Cat V that hit Mexico, another ten percent will be able to find that answer after searching Google and Wikipedia, and the remaining eighty-nine percent will, as usual, not have a coherent answer. If one of us tin-foil-hat, conspiracy theory nutcases protests that "NOAA lied; no-one died; Patricia was no Cat V", our friends, family, neighbors and co-workers will shake their heads "There he/she goes again ... sad".

To the bastards in power:

http://killing-moon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/mooning-a-cow.jpg

[ThePythonicCow]

So ... what, likely several, motivations might the bastards in power have had for yet another false event:

Probing our reactions and awareness, both in bulk and individually, as part of a "continuous learning" process for their psyops, AI, propaganda, mass population control.
A test specifically of certain NOAA, Weather Service and associated employees, to know who they can count on.
A feint to the jaw of the Mexican leaders: "This is what we can do ... and you know it ... stay in line" (better in some ways than actually killing tens of thousands, as that energizes opposition.)
Our daily dose of fear porn theater.
A distraction from something else, elsewhere on or near the planet.
Temporarily vacate that portion of the Mexican coastline to conceal some other operation.

[jake gittes]

Good stuff, Paul. Excellent theories, too.

[Octavusprime]

This video shows the storm from the International Space Station. No way to verify if it is truly from a few days ago but figured I'd place it here for those to ponder.

Gnc89GFg61k

[RunningDeer]

Thank you. Thank you, you silly ones. You kicked-up my resolve another notch. I thought I was at optimal level. And I see. I see much broader than I could’ve fathomed just minutes ago.
So ... is all this evidence of the success of the Avalonian weather modification team, or the dastardly deceptions of the bastards in power ?

I don't know how to find the answer to that question ... :)


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/south-west-wind_zpscutqpwq5.jpg

Warning lots of mixed metaphors.
I blame it on the wine and two pieces of pumpkin-spice cake. Burp.


My first impression about the hurricane was ‘low level urgency’. Pressed for time this morning, I skimmed the posts and the above AWMT(Avalonian weather modification team) photo came to mind. In hindsight, it can also be seen as ‘there is no storm’. My ah-ha was confirmation AGAIN there is ‘no spoon’. Busted. I withdraw my consent to shine light on their shenanigans. They point over there and it makes me DO even more over here.

To stay current, I skim the threads. But my ‘vision’ keeps circling back: 1) help with the frequency glitches to our spirit-vehicles 2) join with humanity to transmute and rediscover our brilliance.

Those silly ones are like the kid pulling a tantrum. We’re no longer attached to the silliness. It’s gotten so old that we don’t even hear it and keep on walking. Meanwhile, the kid catches up, grabs our hand and we keep on walking. What’s for dinner? French fries, clam cakes and pizza with extra cheese.

So ... is all this evidence of the success of the Avalonian weather modification team, or the dastardly deceptions of the bastards in power ?

I don't know how to find the answer to that question ...

My guess it’s not an answer to your question. Here’s one. Some experience a hurricane and some don’t. Where I live it’s hurricane proof. That’s a scary statement to put out there but it’s what I live most minutes. It's not fool proof but it sharpens my courage and resolve. If for nothing else, I'm one of those that's got ya back. [insert red face smilie]

Or do we even need to find the answer to the question? It’s kinda like they’re leading us by a leash, round and round in circles. F-the question. If you had the answer would you believe it 100%? It’s a rigged game. I stepped off.

In the first video, trick question: Guess which one I’m not? Answer: Both


Dog chasing Traxxas Stampede
4GQC6YcxGaY

If You Build It, He Will Come - Field of Dreams
5Ay5GqJwHF8

Paula ♡

[Inmortal719]

Here's some real footage of Hurricane Patricia when it hit ground..

npPjs-wvbYM


https://www.facebook.com/adcolima/videos/996444143749608/
https://www.facebook.com/mtmonroy1/videos/10153336929879023/

I mean it does looks strong however, I haven't seen any mexican media reporting massive damage anywhere....

[Darla Ken Pearce]

Thought this was worth considering:


Final answer at the end of the day: There WAS NO HURRICANE

UPDATE from Jim Stone: https://jhaines6a.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/jim-stone-us-official-hurricane-patricia-never-existed-and-is-a-u-s-government-sponsored-global-warming-hoax/

This was a lie from start to finish. It made landfall nowhere. It dissipated into a tropical depression 100 miles out at sea after barely becoming a tropical storm. This fake cane was just a load of bunk to support the climate scam. Only a little rain in Guadalajara, only a little rain in Guanajuato, only rain even in Puerto Vallarta, which the eye passed over. Many witnesses are wondering WTF happened to this storm, which never existed. It is OFF THE TV. It is NOT ON DRUDGE, and out of the news TOTALLY. It is not even in news flashes.

OFFICIAL TALLY: Zero deaths, zero property damage. The entire coast is populated from start to finish. There is no way for any real hurricane to have a tally of ZERO.

Even if, as the prevailing damage control lie goes: “the hurricane was extremely compact and had only category 1 winds 15 miles away from the eye wall,” we have the leading edge, at 30 miles wide, full cat 5, and the sides for another 30, for a cat 5 to category 1 total distance 60 miles. WHERE IS THE DEVASTATION? There is not one downed house, not one washed out road, not one flipped over car when cars should have been missiles and the ENTIRE coast is populated. Who is pushing this crap about a record hurricane?

ANSWER: Climate scammers who want a “world record hurricane” on the books for the climate change/carbon tax agenda, that is who. This is not even in the Mexican news flashes anymore, it just evaporated like a ghost into nowhere. But it is now on the books as the big BAAAAD climate change cane, just wait and see! You will see the geriatric climate change lie get up and dance with this “cane!”...

[ThePythonicCow]

So ... what, likely several, motivations might the bastards in power have had for yet another false event:

Probing our reactions and awareness, both in bulk and individually, as part of a "continuous learning" process for their psyops, AI, propaganda, mass population control.
A test specifically of certain NOAA, Weather Service and associated employees, to know who they can count on.
A feint to the jaw of the Mexican leaders: "This is what we can do ... and you know it ... stay in line" (better in some ways than actually killing tens of thousands, as that energizes opposition.)
Our daily dose of fear porn theater.
A distraction from something else, elsewhere on or near the planet.
Temporarily vacate that portion of the Mexican coastline to conceal some other operation.


I left off perhaps the most likely - as suggested by Jim Stone (see my own Post #54 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86239-Strongest-Hurricane-Ever-recorded---Patricia-23-Oct-2015-Mexico-&p=1012990&viewfull=1#post1012990), above):

This was a fake hurricane that will hit the books as real, to provide fodder for the climate change scam.

[RunningDeer]

Thank you. Thank you, you silly ones. You kicked-up my resolve another notch. I thought I was at optimal level. And I see. I see much broader than I could’ve fathomed just minutes ago.
So ... is all this evidence of the success of the Avalonian weather modification team, or the dastardly deceptions of the bastards in power ?

I don't know how to find the answer to that question ... :)

Or do we even need to find the answer to the question? It’s kinda like they’re leading us by a leash, round and round in circles. F-the question. If you had the answer would you believe it 100%? It’s a rigged game. I stepped off.

In the first video, trick question: Guess which one I’m not? Answer: Both


Dog chasing Traxxas Stampede
4GQC6YcxGaY

If You Build It, He Will Come - Field of Dreams
5Ay5GqJwHF8

Paula ♡

UPDATE:

Trick question: Guess which one I’m not?

Answer: both - the bitten and the bitter
Answer: three - the bitten, the bitter, the remote controller
Answer: four - the bitten, the bitter, remote controller, the sucked in audience
Answer: five - the bitten, the bitter, remote controller, the sucked in audience, the creator of the game
Answer: six - the bitten, the bitter, remote controller, the sucked in audience, the creator of the game, a co-creator's buddy who laid down to win it all, odds of 50-1
Answer: seven - I’m all of them [Source]

Remember? I said it was a trick question.
And…I get change the rules any damn time I want. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/writing_zpsd26h7e8a.GIF


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[idiit]

So ... what, likely several, motivations might the bastards in power have had for yet another false event


climate change fear porn and a distraction; Benghazi hearing? something else happened while the magicians attracted our attention elsewhere.

imo the other possibility mexico getting ready to do something that tptb disapproves of.

jim willie lives in costa rica. he often talks of how the panama government was getting ready to do something ( I forget what) and the usa used space based lasers and melted a bunch of ppl in broad daylight. this is jim willies only woo woo tale. he's been posting prolifically for over 10 years. he has a phd from the #2 university in his field; quantitative analysis. most of us know about the japan tsunami being manmade theories.


(1) THE PANAMA DECEPTION (NEVER FORGET HISTORY)

The Panama Deception is a 1992 documentary film that won the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature. The film is critical of the actions of the US military during the 1989 invasion of Panama by the United States, covering the conflicting reasons for the invasion and the depicting of the US media as biased. It was directed by Barbara Trent of the Empowerment Project and was narrated by actress Elizabeth Montgomery.



The film asserts that the U.S. government invaded Panama primarily to renegotiate the Torrijos--Carter Treaties. Another allegation made by the film is that the United States tested some form of laser or energy weapon during the invasion. The film also includes footage of mass graves uncovered after the US troops had withdrawn, carpet-bombed civilian neighborhoods, as well as the depiction of some of the 20,000 refugees who fled the invasion.



http://youtu.be/-zMmITXwSts


http://m.delphiforums.com/da_vinci/messages/2311/1

[jake gittes]

Yeah, Noriega was one of their early, "Oh-my-god-this-is-the-worstest-most-evilish-person-in-the-whole-world-guy-type" guys whose pursuit was the official reason given to invade some country. It's usually someone most had never heard of -- Gaddafi, Hussein, Bin Laden, etc, etc, etc. -- but are suddenly hyped as the "Oh-my-god-this-is-the-worstest-most-evilish-person-in-the-whole-world-guy!"

We now join this manhunt, already in progress..

[Antagenet]

UPDATE
I was going to respond sooner, since I live in Puerto Vallarta, but all the talk of patricia being a hoax
infuriated me. It's a blessing that it didnt hit PV but I feel sorry for the people in Mascota who had
flooding 2 stories high, and then theres this..

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/6-deaths-3500-homes-damaged-or-destroyed/?utm_source=Mexico+News+Daily&utm_campaign=7a16df7997-October+27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f1536a3787-7a16df7997-349467477

6 deaths, 3,500 homes damaged or destroyed

Six people died, an estimated 3,500 homes were damaged or destroyed and as many as 25,000 hectares of crops have been affected by Hurricane Patricia after it struck the coast of Jalisco just after 6:00pm Friday.
Six deaths have been attributed to the Category-5 storm that hit the coast with winds over 300 km/h.

Officials said yesterday that two women, one from Argentina and another from Coahuila, were crushed when a tree fell while they and a group of friends were camping in the Tapalpa forest in Jalisco, about 200 kilometers from the coast.

Another woman was hurt and was hospitalized with a back injury, reported Fox News Latino.

The campers were unaware of the hurricane, and many were inside their tents when it struck, according to a report by Televisa.

Four people were killed in an accident on the Colima-Guadalajara highway Friday afternoon during heavy rain and strong winds.

Two more deaths have been reported but not confirmed by authorities. Both occurred as a result of traffic accidents in Tapalpa and Ciudad Guzmán.

Although a census is being conducted to obtain a precise damage assessment, the governor of Colima has already estimated that repairs in his state will cost upwards of 100 million pesos.

Mario Anguiano Moreno said 97 schools and 197 homes had sustained minor damages, as had similar numbers of medical facilities and businesses. More than 6,000 hectares of crops had suffered damages but much of that will be covered by insurance, he said.

Beaches will require a lot of cleaning, the governor said, and money will have to be invested in publicity to encourage tourists to continue visiting.

The state’s Civil Protection office said 2,000 people were housed in temporary shelters during the storm, but most have since returned to their homes. Director Ricardo Urzúa said highways are operational but urged drivers to be cautious because some are not in the best condition.

Wind, rain and overflowing rivers have damaged 8,280 hectares of banana, corn and papaya crops in Jalisco, said the state’s Social Development Secretariat, putting 5,000 people out of work.

In Michoacán, 10,000 hectares of crops are believed damaged, mostly banana and papaya.

Although Hurricane Patricia was forecast to have the potential to inflict catastrophic damage, its effects did not live up to that billing.

However, for communities dependent on agriculture, such as the Michoacán municipality of Coahuayana, the outcome is indeed being called a catastrophe.

Here, 5,600 hectares of banana plantations have been affected, and 1,200 hectares of papaya destroyed. On top of that, there was damage to mango, tamarind, guanabana and corn crops.

“This means that it’s the biggest agricultural catastrophe in the history of the municipality,” said Mayor Porfirio Mendoza, noting that 4,000 families have lost their harvest this year.

Although the Mexican government has been credited with preventing serious damage through timely alerts to populations that could be affected by the hurricane, that wasn’t the case in Arroyo Seco, a small community in the municipality of La Huerta, Jalisco.

But in spite of the absence of official alerts, residents were able to prepare thanks to news reports, said Pedro González, and did what they could to protect their homes from the storm.

In the end, however, it wasn’t enough: only 30 of 150 houses in the village, whose residents make their living from fishing and ecotourism, survived unscathed. The rest suffered damages or were destroyed.

González recalled that Hurricane Jova in 2011, which made landfall in the same area as a Category 2 storm, had hit them hard, but Patricia felt three times worse. However, the effects of Jova on the region were far more severe. In addition to leaving nine people dead it did more than 2.5 billion pesos in damage.

- See more at: http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/6-deaths-3500-homes-damaged-or-destroyed/?utm_source=Mexico+News+Daily&utm_campaign=7a16df7997-October+27&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f1536a3787-7a16df7997-349467477#sthash.fm8M06Ix.dpuf

[Octavusprime]

Thank you Antagenet. I meant to post this article here yesterday but never got around to it:

Vox 10/26/15: http://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/9615274/hurricane-patricia-aftermath


Hurricane Patricia: Why a record storm did surprisingly little damage
Updated by Brad Plumer on October 26, 2015, 11:00 a.m. ET @bradplumer brad@vox.com

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Photo by Scott Kelly/NASA via Getty Images
Last week, meteorologists were (rightly) cranking the sirens over Hurricane Patricia. In the span of just 30 hours, an ordinary tropical storm had mutated into the most powerful hurricane ever measured, with ferocious 200-mile-per-hour winds. And the cyclone was barreling right toward Mexico's southwestern coast.

But then ... Patricia didn't end up causing anywhere near as much devastation as feared. The hurricane hit Mexico's coast at around 7 pm on Friday, a Category 5 storm with winds reaching upward of 165 mph. Within a day, the storm had weakened considerably, chewed up by mountainous terrain. So far, six deaths have been reported — far fewer than that from many other major hurricanes — and much of Mexico's major infrastructure has survived intact.

So what happened? It'd be wrong to say Patricia was overhyped. A similar-size typhoon hit the Philippines in 2013 and killed more than 6,300 people. Rather, chalk it up to luck and readiness. Patricia ended up passing through a lightly populated area. And, crucially, Mexico is getting much better at dealing with tropical storms. In the past, the government had been slow to respond to hurricane threats. This time around, orderly evacuation efforts likely saved lives.

It's a good reminder that "natural disasters" are never entirely natural. Smart preparation and effective response can often make all the difference.

Hurricane Patricia missed the most heavily populated areas

Every hurricane is different, and Patricia had quirks that — thankfully — blunted its impact.

For starters, Patricia made landfall in one of the least populated parts of Mexico's Pacific coast, near Cuixmala, an eco-resort surrounded by an ocean reserve. Had the storm veered just a little bit farther north (toward the tourist hub of Puerto Vallarta, population 250,000) or a little bit farther south (toward Manzanillo, pop. 150,000), it could have been much deadlier.

Here's a great map from Michael Lowry of the Weather Channel, showing the storm's romp through the countryside. Note the population densities:


(Michael Lowry/The Weather Channel)
Also fortuitous: Despite its strength, Patricia was an unusually compact storm, with its most powerful Category 5 winds only extending about 15 miles out from the eye. And because it developed so rapidly, it didn't have time to create a powerful storm surge and cause severe flooding inland.

After making landfall on Friday, Patricia wended its way inland through sparsely populated rural areas and soon hit mountainous terrain full of dry air that quickly chopped up the hurricane. Within 24 hours, it had been downgraded to a tropical storm.

To be clear, Patricia still did plenty of damage in the areas where it did strike. Mexican authorities said that the storm's powerful winds damaged at least 3,000 homes and left more than 250,000 people without power. The hurricane ravaged local banana crops, at a cost of millions of dollars. For residents in the affected areas, it could take years to rebuild their homes and livelihoods.

Hurricane Patricia Slams Into Mexico's Pacific Coast
Photo by Brett Gundlock/Getty Images
The storm also ended up killing a few people. Two women out camping were crushed by trees toppled by the high winds. Four other people died in an automobile accident. We may hear about additional casualties in the coming days.

Still, there's no question that things could have been much, much worse. The last Category 5 hurricane to hit the region, back in 1959, made landfall near the major port city of Manzanillo and killed 1,800 people. Nearly half the homes in the area were destroyed. Up in the hills and mountains, major mudslides ended up killing hundreds and wiping out roads that hindered the aid response. (The mudslides also, weirdly, unleashed hordes of venomous scorpions and snakes that added to the death toll.)

The Mexican government responded quickly to Patricia

One of the factors that made that 1959 hurricane so deadly was that it snuck up on Mexico. Forecasters thought the storm was veering out to sea — before it quickly slammed inland. Residents were caught completely off-guard.

Patricia, for its part, also shocked people, growing unusually fast into a Category 5 storm between Wednesday and Friday. But this time around, the Mexican government responded far more diligently.

After a major earthquake in 1985, Mexico developed a nationwide emergency response system to warn local residents of impending dangers through TV and social media. That proved effective, with officials issuing repeating warnings to find shelter or stay inside during the storm:


Meanwhile, the Mexican states lying in the path of the storm were opening storm shelters that could hold more than 250,000 people in all. Authorities evacuated thousands of people from the most vulnerable places. Cities like Puerto Vallarta and Manzanillo began plopping down sandbags and preparing for storm surges.

And, after the storm hurtled through, knocking over trees and power lines, clean-up crews moved fast to bring back electricity and clear access roads. The New York Times reported from the scene: "Around midday on Saturday in Cihuatlán, a town in one of the hardest-hit areas, government crews in orange vests were aided by local residents in removing fallen branches and trees. Others were sweeping the streets. Telephone workers were repairing damaged lines."

Hurricane Patricia Slams Into Mexico's Pacific Coast
Photo by Brett Gundlock/Getty Images
It's a striking contrast with the Philippines' response to Typhoon Haiyan in 2013. There, authorities also tried to warn people beforehand that a major tropical cyclone was coming. But many residents simply refused to move to safer ground, out of fear that the government wouldn't be able to protect them (or their homes from looters). Then, after the storm had passed, poorly paved roads and armed groups hindered aid responders.

How authorities prepare and react to a natural disaster is often utterly critical, so it's encouraging to see that Mexico is getting much better at it. They're not alone: elsewhere in the world, Bangladesh has steadily reduced the number of deaths from tropical cyclones since the 1970s through early warning systems, evacuation plans, and coastal embankments. India, too, has been stepping up its forecasting and evacuation capabilities. Back in 1999, a tropical cyclone hit the Indian state of Odisha and killed 10,000 people. In 2013, a similar-sized storm hit the same region, but the local government was better prepared, moved nearly a million people to safety, and managed to limit the death toll to just 44. This stuff matters.

Was Hurricane Patricia "overblown"? Not really.

There was, understandably, a lot of hoopla around Patricia on Friday. It was the strongest hurricane ever seen in the Eastern Pacific or Atlantic basins. It featured 200-mile-per-hour winds. The National Hurricane Center warned that landfall could be "potentially catastrophic." (The potential global warming context undoubtedly piqued interest, too.)

But after Patricia slid through Mexico without a major catastrophe, some media outlets wondered if the whole thing was "overblown," as the Associated Press put it. The backlash seems absurd. Marshall Shepherd, the director of the Atmospheric Sciences Program at the University of Georgia, puts it well:

Are you kidding me? How can you overhype a record-shattering hurricane, packing EF-5 tornado winds, and approaching a major country? I have seen this before. It almost seems like some would rather see carnage and destruction to justify the call of alarm or make for a better story. I have often pondered the obsession that we have preparing for a major hazard, and then being critical if the destruction doesn’t meet some level of expectation. The "better safe than sorry" rule works.

If there is a lesson to glean here, it's that there's a lot more to a tropical storm than sheer size. Hurricanes are typically rated on the strength of their winds, under the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale. A Category 1 storm has winds between 74 and 95 mph. A Category 5 storm has winds that exceed 157 mph.

But that's never the end of the story. Hurricane Katrina made landfall in 2005 with Category 3 winds. But it swept near New Orleans, a major population center, it induced a spectacular storm surge, the city's levees famously failed, and the government was slow to evacuate residents. The result? 1,200 people died. By contrast, Patricia made landfall with Category 5 winds, but it didn't hit a major metropolis, it didn't induce a major storm surge, and the evacuations were far more orderly. It's not always the record-breakers that do the most harm

Reasons it did "little" damage:
-High winds had a very small "eye"
-Hurricane hit a less populated area
-Evacuations were done in advance with worst case in mind
-Storm surge was minimal

[ThePythonicCow]

UPDATE
I was going to respond sooner, since I live in Puerto Vallarta, but all the talk of patricia being a hoax
infuriated me. It's a blessing that it didnt hit PV but I feel sorry for the people in Mascota who had
flooding 2 stories high, and then theres this..

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/6-deaths-3500-homes-damaged-or-destroyed/

6 deaths, 3,500 homes damaged or destroyed

Thank-you for the update.

So from you report, personally and from the Mexico News Daily.com, there absolutely was a hurricane ... the question remaining for me is whether it was the strongest Cat V on record, ever, or "just" a hurricane of more ordinary power. Many a hurricane kills people, wipes out crops, damages and destroys buildings, and sends storm surges into the second stories of buildings.

Do you have some way of distinguishing between those two cases?