Moonstuff...what's up??

[Spellbound]

Is the moon artificial and was it towed into place many moons ago??

Is it hollow??

Is it true we were warned to stay away from the moon by ET's after we attempted to transport a nuke up there and detonate it?? Is that why we haven't been back??

What is really on the dark side of the moon??

I find the moon very intriguing. What are your thoughts here??

Dave - Toronto

[abmqa]

Hi Dave - I also find the moon very interesting. From the recently discovered anomalous behavior of the "Lunar Wave" https://www.youtube.com/user/Crrow777 to the extremely interesting artifacts and unexplained activity highlighted in various YouTube videos.

I tend to believe that the moon was placed precisely where it is by an extremely ancient and advanced civilization, perhaps the same one responsible for our existence", in order to make the earth "functional". Scientifically, there is no doubt that the moon is critical to earth's Eco-systems, to it's life sustaining existence, this is not theory. it is fact.


There are many moon fact oddities that point to it being artificial or precisely placed. These "oddities" are just "facts" that we don't understand or cannot explain because we don't have the whole and true story.

Best regards

abmqa

[jake gittes]

This thread might be combined with this one: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86246-Look-what-I-just-found-on-UFO-Moon-Rising-video-

Recommend you two check out this video as it explores some of these questions.

I am also curious about the recent surge in interest in the "flat earth movement" which has become an obsession for some. I have not had ample time to explore the various theories in depth but have noticed that previously-respected online commenters have leaped down this rabbit hole with both feet.

[Citizen No2]

I too find the Moon interesting, but what about the legend's of very old civilisations regarding the time before the Moon?


Regards.


When the Moon is full, mankind is one.

[Nasu]

Not sure if anyone has talked about this strange footage, real or fake? Seems like an od thing to stage, for whome and what possible purpose I wonder. Or it's real. Can't find an English version, there was one, but it's gone now. Anyway, check it out, what's your thoughts? It looks real to me, I just can't imagine why someone would fake it? But so much has, it's hard not to discount as a possibility... N


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01pGF8nrlMY

[joeecho]

To consider the moon as hollow is like opening up a can of worms.

If the moon is hollow, one should consider that for other heavenly bodies as well.

http://www.courtneylteague.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/ant-sunrise.png

http://www.courtneylteague.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/ant-tennis.png

[Citizen No2]

I've not seen that footage before Nasu........ I'll tell you what I find a bit strange. It looks as if the camera is on a boom, there is no vertical or jerky movement that you would expect if the camera was strapped to an astronaut that was walking. Also, the footage seems as if it is doing a fly-through the buildings. Looks real enough to be convincing, but then again, what have we to measure it by......... seems way more slick than the 'conventional' moon footage.

Just my thoughts.


Regards.

[Nasu]

I've not seen that footage before Nasu........ I'll tell you what I find a bit strange. It looks as if the camera is on a boom, there is no vertical or jerky movement that you would expect if the camera was strapped to an astronaut that was walking. Also, the footage seems as if it is doing a fly-through the buildings. Looks real enough to be convincing, but then again, what have we to measure it by......... seems way more slick than the 'conventional' moon footage.

Just my thoughts.


Regards.

My thoughts exactly. After watching the way it navigates through the door, my guess is a remotely controlled robo cam. It does not bob as it would if carried. Also at one point an astronaut walks past at close range, the view is looking up at them. My guess would it is at about 3 to 4 ft off the floor. When it goes into the room it goes up over the debris like it is driving. My last point is that, as it is not one continuous take, it is edited, so who knows... N

[Citizen No2]

Hmmmmmmm........

It has that soft focus thing going on as well, not the best for picking out detail. The astronaut's that you see seem to glide in and out of shot too.

I am not convinced. I used to think that the sun rose in the morning, and set in the evening too..... even that is an illusion.


Regards.

[Nasu]

Hmmmmmmm........

It has that soft focus thing going on as well, not the best for picking out detail. The astronaut's that you see seem to glide in and out of shot too.

I am not convinced. I used to think that the sun rose in the morning, and set in the evening too..... even that is an illusion.


Regards.

Hah, so true. Interesting though, none the less. Someone went to quite some bother to produce it. The blandness and lack of narrative give it more cred in my book. Who knows, the big idea right now, seems to be the flat earth theory, for goodness sake.. Galileo is rolling in his grave!!

Mind you, we are still at the very infancy of our understanding, it's only been within the last fifteen small years that we have filmed planets outside of our solar system, we thought they were there, but it's only now that we have the proof. We are all cosmic babies one way or another, just learning how to play nice... N

[Citizen No2]

To tell you the truth, re: flat Earth, I cannot make-up my mind............ I see both sides, there are strong cases for both. Does it really matter though? If it was officially revealed that the Earth is a plane, would that have an effect on my life? I don't think it would.

Apart from the fact that almost everything we have been taught is a lie, but that ain't news either.


Regards.

[Nasu]

I agree. Whether it's round or square or flat or oblong, my week still looks the same, busy!

If true it would seem we are unique in our limited understanding of the cosmos, all other stable rotating heavenly bodies are round shaped.

Our time is based upon the Babylonians understanding of the rising and setting of the sun. They organized the planet and cosmos into a circle of three sixty degrees, sub organized into twelve houses, or the twelve zodiacs. Venerating the number 12, 9 and 60, they further sub organized said year and months, into days, hours and minutes.

Interestingly they were only off by five days in a year!! Their observations of the cosmos are the foundations of our understanding, times zones work because of them and by the fact that our heavenly body is round ish, like the rest of the universe. IMHO...x... N

[Citizen No2]

Aye,

as above, so below. It's that pesky Moon though...... throws a bit of a spanner in the old critical thinking.


Regards.

[Nasu]

Ok. Please let's put the flat earth theory to bed. I hope I can help, even if it's just a bit. IMHO this so called new theory appeals to lost souls like us, who are so burned out from the cycle of belief then followed by the understanding we were lied to. Once you get to this high level of apathy for truth, so called, anything become possible, even our most cherished understandings like gravity et al, can be thrown out...

So, let us take a distant mountain view and say anything is possible until we can prove it one way or tuther. From this non judgmental place, check out this experiment in a weightless environment. It does give some credence to the idea of cavernous pockets within the core of planets, but I hope you can agree, if we repeated this experiment with matter in a weightless non gravity lab such as this, in one thousand attempts the matter would never develope to be flat, or indeed any other shape but roundish, like the rest of our visible cosmos. Hope this helps you back down off the fence.... N


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeMzOhoJpfw

[Citizen No2]

The thing is Nasu,

we could spar like this all night. I agree, with our current level of provable physics and understanding, an oblique spheroid is the way to go.

But.......... there is always a 'but' though.

Until I can see her in all her glory, I cannot say for certain Mother Earth is what we have been told she is. As I said earlier, it makes no practical difference to me and my life what shape this planet is. You just have to take all things in to consideration.

Regards.

[Nasu]

Fair enough. Aww, bless, we're not sparing, I haven't even stood up, we're just talking about everything and nothing, by the candlelight, chewing the breeze... As above so below, is right, but it still doesn't change our plans for the week! I hope yours turns out wonderful...x... N

[Citizen No2]

Heh,

cheers fella........ chewing the cud.

Are you far from Les Gets?


Regards.

[Spellbound]

Is there any truth to the thought that humans attempted to transport and detonate a nuke on the moon (but were deterred and banished by ET's)?? I've heard this once from Bob Dean.

Dave - Toronto

[Citizen No2]

I heard that interview too Dave,

problem is, how do you validate the info?

God only knows (and TPTB) just what the hell is going on up there.


Regards.

[Spellbound]

Thing is, I've not heard this from any other source (except Dean). I know John Lear is heavy into moon stuff, but I'm unsure if he has ever alluded to this thought about nukes (and humans being banished as a result). Make me wonder why we have not been back to the moon (in any official capacity) since then.

Dave - Toronto

[Citizen No2]

There was Starfish Prime, Operation Fishbowl and Operation Dominic............ detonating high yield nukes at extreme altitude, so I could see a logical extension of that would be a nuke on the Moon, but for what purpose?

That is the million $ question though...... why have we not been back? There are a plethora of reasons as to why we should have been back, but only one, in my mind, as to why we have not been back.


Regards.

[latina]

The voice in that video is of J.J. Benitez author of the saga Caballo de Troja (Trojan Horse). J.J. have said that a whistle blower showed to him a video that proved there were very ancient moon bases when astronauts got up there. This video is a recreation of that initial video. This recreation was shown in a TV channel in Spain long time ago but it was made to recreate what Benitez saw in the original video. He has made clear that this specific video is not real.

[latina]

HI all: This video it's not original, it is a video J.J Benitez, researcher and author of the saga Caballo de Troya (Trojan Horse) made long time ago and it was aired in a TV channel in Spain.He was trying to recreate what he saw in another video a whistle blower showed to him proving that when astronauts went to the moon there were very ancient bases. Images showed in this video are not real just a representation and he has been very clear about that in several interviews. The original video was was a part of a secret operation called "Mirlo Rojo" and it was never found again neither the whistle blower.

[ghostrider]

All I can add is the plejaren woman semjase said the moon is a fragment of a planet struck by the destroyer comet in our twin Universe and was drug through the man made dimension door bringing it into our Universe eventually becoming caught by Earth's gravity... Over 4.5 billion years ago...

[Bubu]

there is no doubt that the moon is critical to earth's Eco-systems, to it's life sustaining existence, this is not theory. it is fact.


abmqa

aye aye old folks around here have many "superstition" that pertains to moon some of them are ego inspired of course but I've seen farmers that reaps the benefits of exceptional harvest just by watching the moon. not to forget how we schedule our fishing expeditions

[joeecho]

On a quantum level no-thing is as it seems.

Heavenly bodies are like quantum in relationship to the infinity of space. Even the most massive objects or cluster of objects in space are like particles in relationship to the whole of space.

Space is filled with quanta and they are not what they appear to be and what they appear to be is solid.

In the everyday world the perception is that things are at various degrees of solidity (not hollow), however, that doesn't mean they are.

[Frenchy]

Hi Dave, ( People talking about Kevin Annett, up there, and giving him the platform he deserves yet ? After all, he WAS on the inside as a Monk, and couldn't stomach the abuse.... )

Moon : A looong time ago, I read David Nivens Autobiography " The Moons a Balloon ", ( I confess, I was far younger then, and more interested in his account of the 'Lady ', with the Fishnet stockings ! ! ) Now, xxxxx years later, wonder if the poet referred to in the book, had ' inside knowledge ? '

However, more to the point of your question;
Look up Creda Mutwa's reply to David Icke's question, Credo, can you tell me if there are any African legends regarding it ?

I don't think there is a Dark Side of the Moon; I think it's all Dark ..... Pink Floyd.....

Scientists in the 21 st Century, STILL speak as did Galilieo (sp) , The Moon shouldn't , by logic be there.... " yet it is " .....

Great to see your enquiring mind :-)