Voices

[sunshaker]

I am one of those who "hear" these voices,
To me It is not an illness (It is a gift), even though I was told they where "schizophrenic episodes", I used to be scared of them in the early days, before I really understood them, they can play on any fears and enhance them, which in turn makes you more fearful, Once you conquer your fears, which you will do, a new world opens up to you , These "Voices" can come from many sources, to me everything now has a voice, when you know how to listen, it can be has simple as messages within messages, conversations within conversations, but each personalized just for you.

I am only posting this because of what happened last night, I believed I was just about to have a stroke, I had the tv on, I was losing awareness my heart going crazy, then from the TV came a voice which broke through speaking directly to me, told me to take deep breaths then told me to start coughing(which brought back a memory about coughing in early stages of heart attack, can prevent a major stroke), the next voice said drink water, I MANAGED TO GET A GLASS FROM KITCHEN, as I walked back into living room from the tv came "well done, well done", Has I took my first gulp of water, I thought I should of had orange juice, then from the tv the voice said a bit of sugar would have been nice, a little more was said, which also helped to calm me.
Many would have been watching this same program, each would have interpreted it different, I heard what I needed, when I needed it.

Today I am alright, was I having mini stroke? maybe maybe not.

But the "VOICES" where there for me, like they always are.

[idiit]

spirit guide(s)?

I head a voice one time 15 or so years ago.

young gal was talking abut taking Ketamine (horse or cat tranquilizer) and how some fuzzy little ball creatures came into her and rearranged some stuff including how she sees colors.

for the first and last time (while I was awake) I heard a stern male voice say: don't ever take that drug.

now I've done a lot of drugs. I never heard a voice warn me before.

I do have a spirit guide that comes in while i'm sleeping during dreams and talk to me. he appears in many forms; never his own. he gives me guidance. he is why I was able to totally abstain from alcohol. I immediately wake up after each of his visits and intuitively kow I had a visit from him and to remember what he said. he's given me guidance several times.

I actively sought out to be a chela ( student ) of this spirit guide aprox. 20 years ago.

[Michelle Marie]

It's great to hear voices.

I love my many experiences. Telepathy, intuition, clairaudience...however you want to describe it.

It seems these latent/suppressed abilities are awakening and increasing in all of us.

Great story! I'm glad you are all right.

Blessings,
Michelle Marie

[sunshaker]

spirit guide(s)?

I have never really thought of them has my guides, but they are always there in one form or another, it adds an whole new dimension to the life/reality I used to know.

@Michelle Marie,
I love my "experiences", I find it hard to give them a "name".
I lived my first 30 odd years completely unaware, I believe mine started when I had my first major sleep paralysis, followed by a long bout of reoccurring waking,
most days i would awake get up make a coffee and realize something was wrong, either my cups where different colours, or I had meat in my fridge(i'm a veggie), IT COULD SOMETIMES TAKE 6/7 OF THESE EPISODES TO "WAKE UP".
I did have an EEG at this time, like most of us I asked what some of the lines where showing, There was a large section of the reading which I was told I must of been sleeping through the test, but I was wide awake through the test(it was to important for me to sleep through),

Then I started being aware of "voices", set me looking into dreams, how the brain works, physics/chemistry to try and understand what was happening.
It was intense the first few years until I learnt control, now I am able to turn them done a degree or two, which allows me to still function in my old world reality.

[sunshaker]

I would be interested to know if others on here have any "experiences with reading text", For quite a while I had problems reading text, Sometimes just reading a line of text would take forever, the "words" took on a life of there own, and the text never read the same twice.
But through this experience I was DRAWN to use "Prisms" for viewing the world. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80706-Visualization-Imagery-and--Guided--Meditation&p=954620&viewfull=1#post954620

I believe this trained my brain to view the world in a new light, Now I can read text with no problems, but sometimes I am able to switch with a blink of the eyes, by "switch" I mean when I am reading 2d text I can switch my focus, If I do this while reading from computer, the text turns 3d/4d, like I can put my hand into computer screen behind the words, the words/LETTERS scrabble at mad speeds creating NEW WORDS/sentences that are not there in 2d mode, I see this along the lines of "quantum possibilities" where the text exists in every form possible, and only takes solid form when I revert my focus back to 2d. I must admit even though it is a great experience, I rarely understand what I am seeing/reading has the letters change so fast,

This I can also do with written text on paper, if I switch my focus to written text I can tell how the words where wrote, take an "S" it is like a slide, where the "S was started" is the bottom of the slide the top of the "S" seems to stand/hover above the paper where it was finished or vice-versa depending on where the letter was started..

"sometimes we do not share these experiences with others", they become to personal, and are hard to explain to others who do not experience them, so we keep quite.

JUST TO ADD: This seems to cross over to the spoken word, Where before the spoken word was like a 2d experience, through lack of better explanation turns to a 3d/4d experience.

I now believe I see how we are all connected, how we all add to the "Whole", It is like we are all "GOD/UNIVERSE", Everything/Everyone existing within each of us (creating this shared experience), at the moment we all vibrate at different frequencies, this gives us the diversity we have in life, some of it good some bad, When the turmoil dies down, we will eventually all vibrate to the same frequency, then we will truly know ourselves and nothing will be impossible.

[Fanna]

Perception is a funny thing. I am very glad that you are open to the world that you Sense and not simply the world that you sense.

If we're being scientific here, such symptoms are symptoms of a synesthesia of sorts where the senses become intertwined-- sounds have a feeling, touches have a color, etc-- but more in your perception visually highlighting information that you Know even though your active senses would not. However, that makes it sound like a disease. Anything not of the normal pacified adult is a dis-ease to the powers that be.


Nothing will be impossible.

Use your senses to see the truth. Use your actions to reveal the truth. The truth is love. The truth is One.

[Circe]

I woke up one morning and heard the words "Make? Model? Type?" in my left ear, as clear as anything. The words were said very loudly and clearly & in a male's voice. The words were shouted out, very much like a sergeant would bark orders to his soldiers. I have no explanation. My wife heard nothing and there was no TV or Radio on. That is my experience of a voice.

[sunshaker]

If we're being scientific here, such symptoms are symptoms of a synesthesia of sorts where the senses become intertwined-- sounds have a feeling, touches have a color, etc-- but more in your perception visually highlighting information that you Know even though your active senses would not.
[QUOTE]
Which I believe is needed, brings to mind a "quantum computer",

[QUOTE]A quantum computer taps directly into the fundamental fabric of reality – the strange and counterintuitive world of quantum mechanics – to speed computation.

To long have our "senses" been closed down, nolonger really seeing or feeling anything.
We all know there are those that control the world, behind the puppets we are shown.

But we have greater power than we realize, it is why they divide and separate us, and keep us in our boxes in fear of the outside.
We have forgotten who we are, what we are capable of.

And as you say a type of "synesthesia", where the senses become intertwined, but is this something we all had once upon a time?,
Something we may have lost/traded to fit neatly into their system/society, they only like cogs that fit and know their place, they do not like different.

You are right, "The truth is one".

[sunshaker]

@Circe
I woke up one morning and heard the words "Make? Model? Type?" in my left ear, as clear as anything. The words were said very loudly and clearly & in a male's voice. The words were shouted out, very much like a sergeant would bark orders to his soldiers. I have no explanation. My wife heard nothing and there was no TV or Radio on. That is my experience of a voice.


They where just placing you back in bed, making sure they had the right "make", "type", "model", otherwise your wife would of been in for a shock if they had replaced you with a wrong model:sun:

edit: forgot to quote Circe.

[voices of silence]

I think schizophrenic episodes have the 3D brain chemicals unbalanced(if your body is not relaxed), but when you get your body relaxed and call upon spirit and hear voices or connect to another person energy then the voices are the spirit's talking or reading another person mind.

[Ikarusion]

i think thats great for you, shaker.

i dont hear voices, but sometimes i randomly listen to new music and i find certain parts of a song speaking to me.
it can be silly things, like me not having had dinner and thinking about if i should eat something around 9pm and then the singer says: "are you eatin though?".
on some occasions i was thinking about myself, my life and song texts can give me nudge that make me question myself, my behaviour.

sometimes i find deeper meaning in normal conversations, things on tv or just small talk. or i google something and discover a "personal" message inside a general one.

you mentioned the focus switch when reading. i was wondering how other things appear to you when you switch your focus. tv, people, a scenery? can you elaborate a bit?

regards,
ika

[sunshaker]

i think thats great for you, shaker.

i dont hear voices, but sometimes i randomly listen to new music and i find certain parts of a song speaking to me.
it can be silly things, like me not having had dinner and thinking about if i should eat something around 9pm and then the singer says: "are you eatin though?".
on some occasions i was thinking about myself, my life and song texts can give me nudge that make me question myself, my behaviour.

sometimes i find deeper meaning in normal conversations, things on tv or just small talk. or i google something and discover a "personal" message inside a general one.

you mentioned the focus switch when reading. i was wondering how other things appear to you when you switch your focus. tv, people, a scenery? can you elaborate a bit?

regards,
ika
I started much like the experiences you mention, the more I became aware the more intense they became, Through one of these episodes I was drawn to using prisms, I believe these changed how my brain viewed the world.
One of my first major scarey experiences was when I was drawn from my home, I was led to an area of my town, it was an area I knew about but had never been to, there is a park surrounded by houses, in the park where what looked like hundreds of magpies, I watched for a while then laid down on the bank, then all of a sudden I heard music and voices, I looked up over the bank and there where at least a hundred "people", cooking meat in big oil drum type barbeques,
They where not there two minutes before, I walked over, everyone seemed to stare at me, I could hear them saying "HE SEE'S US", This is when I first became aware of entities that live amongst us but are not seen.

At this time I had a mobile phone and it started going crazy, text message after text message, "do you believe in god" "do you believe in hell" "will you take a leap of faith" message after message, there is much more to this episode, but when I eventually got home and looked at my texts, there where only ones from the day before, the rest had gone(if they where ever really there).
My life can be hard at times, it is like there are many realities existing at once, I have learnt some control, and can now keep my focus to "this reality", but I now enjoy when my focus changes, even little things now, I rarely see trees without leaves my "mind?" fills in the leaves, so when I look at "leafless trees" a green mist glows around the trees then intense green leaves appear more intense and colourful than any "real leafs?".

But back to how I view TV/PEOPLE, as I said I have used prisms to view the world for many years, this adds an extra dimensions to what we normally "see", it is like folding/merging dimensions together, it gives everything a new freedom, spaces within spaces, a new freedom to express what could not be expressed before. There is much "hidden" in plain view, that I never knew existed.
Like I have mentioned, I no longer always need prisms(they where a learning tool), I can look at "people" and they seem to vibrate, to be moving in every direction at once, when this happens in crowds it can be intense, each person changes at lightning speeds, similar to a flick book, clothes change, faces change, bodies change, I have come to see this as some kind of quantum possibilities, where ever possibility is possible at every moment, but we tend to only ever to see this reality we are all focused on.
This is the same with reading, where words/letters become 3d/4d, changing at lightning speed, similar to when you view a computer flicking through combinations to break a code.
I must admit this is made it hard to live a "normal life", I have lost friends and family through this change, but am more aware of who and what we really are, It has changed me and I would never want to go back, to me it was a metamorphosis.

I keep most of this to myself now, I used to try and explain, but most just think you are mad, at one time I would have thought the same myself, but it has made me realise how connected we all are, and I do see light at the end of the tunnel for us.
We are creators who have forgot how to create, controlled by the few who still know(using their scare tactics). when more of us begin to awake. We will break free of this controlled reality, We will "shift" to a "new reality", a reality some of us already get glimpses of.

[idiit]

here's a different take thread related; who reads/hears someone's spirit when reading their text?

when I read ramacharka yoga books I could hear/read his voiceless voice communicating to me more like direct transference ( kinda like telepathy but direct transference). I was hearing his spirit communicating to me without physicality to the communication.

when I read babuji yoga books the same thing.

when I read most anything including these threads I read the spirit of the person who posted.

who else hears/reads someone else's spirit?

dogs are notorious for picking up vibes. my dogs can tell immediately if I want them on my lap, near me.

do we hear/read vibes including spiritual vibe in a non physical ( more like higher, less physical spiritual frequency) manner? is vibe frequency? is the vibe frequency a potential carrier of communication? mos def.

the ego is a great topic. almost everyone imo is influenced to some degree by their ego's voiceless voice. the more spiritually mature have learned that it is a liar, a very bad influence and have found means to tune out of the subliminal frequency the "not human ego" uses to manipulate us.

so, I am sayin' that voices have at the densest, lowest frequency more physicality and as we tune into more "etheric" frequencies we read/hear higher frequency communication that has less physicality.

we could then segue into hearing our intuition, our conscience, our inner voice; all of which have far less physicality than normal person to person communication in 3d holographic "reality".

we all hear voices; some are less attuned to some frequencies than others. some are more influenced by lower, denser, less spiritually +evolved voices than others.


when I heard the stern male voice almost command me to not take ketamine it was very physical. one time only event. the spiritual entity influencing my action used a very physical frequency to ensure I heard the message. so, it appears to me from my experiences that higher spiritual entities can and do use more physical communication when deemed necessary.

interesting, no? :)

[sunshaker]

I agree, I could have wrote that myself, "except I'm a cat man", with the noise of this "modern world", these voices can get drowned out, but they are there for everyone, because they are "Everyone".

when I heard the stern male voice almost command me to not take ketamine it was very physical. one time only event.
These "vOICES" are always there to guide us, when we take time to listen.

[Ikarusion]

thank you both for sharing. i can imagine that it isnt easy to integrate this new perception into normal life, but you seem to be doing well at it for now shaker.
i wish you further strength and more open ears for information exchange on this.

btw, idi: how does my spirit appear to you? :Angel:

[sunshaker]

As I mentioned that I use glass prisms(pyramids) for viewing, they have helped to change how I view the world/reality, After years of using prisms I have seen much that is hidden from normal views, what we "see" with our normal vision is such a small part of what is out there, normal vision to me is like being only "partially sighted", I have also had energy coming from the prisms arcing to my face in a continuous flow,
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But it is not my prism viewing I want to mention, I do not take much notice of the illuminati, but there main symbol is an all seeing eye, to me this represents that they are also "Prism viewers",
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The American bald eagle symbolizes freedom and strength. It is holding 13 arrows in one claw and an olive branch with 13 leaves in the other symbolizing Congress’ power over war and peace. The eagle is looking right showing that the US is a peaceful nation.
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But illuminati/freemasons use this "Double headed eagle" for their "emblem",
When I use "one prism" to view the American eagle, I will also end up seeing the double headed illuminati eagle.
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There is a hidden language of the "Prisms", it transcends our dimension,it is a folding and merging of realities, Now I watch "them" has they watch us:sun:

[dirmanam]

Thanks sunshaker and idiit, and others, for sharing on this topic, and as you asked for others experience I'd like to join.

I started to hear music some years ago. At first very low,in one ear. Different kind..church organ, choire, and classic music ala russian style..not what I usually listen to. I had to search/ tune in to it, to find it, and later it grew some in loudness. It then included a diversity of pop styles and often contry, with lyrics, for me to sing along :) For a while I wondered if this music was produced or if I heard it for the first time. Then I heard Elton Johns Yellow brick road, and my interest faded..nice song though

But I also sometimes hear only voices, it just keeps on, like tapping into a radio station. And this is sometimes the case as I hear the weather forcast, especially in the morning, before getting up of bed

I also recognize shorter prases as directed to me personally. A mans voice with a northern dialect Is often audible

As I also tend to see spirits, I have come to learn that some voices comes from them. I often see them speaking, normally without hearing, but now and then I hear voices that fits to their lip movements..

When it comes to seein text for the inner eye, this is more normal to me. But unfortunately its in chineese or japanese. And sometimes in Gothic and an unknown ( to me ) similar to a mix between arabic an rune

I do not however recognise your ( sunshaker) view with a shift in daylight from 2 de to 3 de. But seeing writings in nightime it can appear with a limited view as on paper, but also letters for travelling into, as surrounded by them, as each letter increase in size, or I get smaller

On one seldom occation I see the rune letters as neon light on the back palm of a big hand. As this was seen in tv quality and endured in time I reached to be confused and asked for a translation. Then the room was filled with words in hanwritten style on my language/ norwegian. Unfortunately I could not consentrate to read, as not knowing where to start, and that the word itself keept moving.

Well, just sharing my personal experience, because the topic interest me, and would like to explore deeper into this phenomena

[idiit]

I started to hear music some years ago

I heard a poem once. it took a week or so to hear the entirety; got bits and pieces at a time. it was delivered in my inner voice. I was listening to me.

motherf*****r was a bear

motherf****r had no hair.

that's right, motherf****r had go around buck naked.

motherf****r didn't care.

one day motherf****r found sahaj marg; rogaine for bears.

now motherf****r has hair.

I am that motherf*****g bear.


I was stripped clean and put thru a sausage machine. this is my life story. I am still recovering. healing and transforming into a higher spiritual caliber all due to sahaj marg yoga.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________ __________

rogaine is hair loss treatment

sahaj marg is the raja type yoga with the highest efficacy in bestowing higher spiritual caliber and the resultant capabilities associated with said spiritual hierarchy.

http://www.sahajmarg.org/publications/ebook/efficacy-of-raja-yoga

[Unicorn_Wrath]

I started hearing these 'voices' (though they couldn't be perceived by anyone else), earlier this year after I had been meditating consistently for two months. They would start flowing in most nights as I became drowsy, some words clear, like eavesdropping on strangers' conversations, other sentences unintelligible. I have a clean bill of mental health, so never worried. Furthermore, as I progressed I noticed that this 'astral noise' would only filter through when in a relaxed state, and became rather loud when coming out of body twice.

Other incidences have been hearing a melodic yet metallic-sounding female voice say, with volition 'These [something] tunnels have power' during a David Sereda Pleiades mp3 meditation. Also briefly when experimenting with a research chemical (which allowed me to perceive energy in the air-usually only visible to me after deep meditation.) Seen and heard some other frightening things when fooling around with chems years back, and I'd be inclined to think these things may open people up to non-physical energies just as much as sleep paralysis or other profound altered states. It's an area that definitely requires more respect and research. I've read LSD trip reports online from those none-the-wiser describing seeing tall men with snake faces, and a praying mantis creature, etc. Just look at DMT..

When I met my spirit guide in a lucid dream three months ago, the communication was telepathic and personal. Therefore, the nonsensical ramblings heard by many at times appear to be simply greater sensitivity/increasing ability to turn the dial and tune into subtle frequencies- but often landing on a random radio station. *Not to be confused with insanity. :)

[sunshaker]

[QUOTE]

I was stripped clean and put thru a sausage machine. this is my life story. I am still recovering. healing and transforming into a higher spiritual caliber all due to sahaj marg yoga.

I know that feeling well intense times, "stripped clean and put thru a sausage machine",
I am also in the process of rebuilding, after my soul was laid bare, "The Voices" where a large part of this dismantling, tearing me first to pieces, before then helping me to rebuild.

[dirmanam]

I need to chew slowly on your poem, Idiit, as the meaning do not perform clearly for me.. should it be motherfather and then mother****ing.. ? Not everything should be explained though, but it got a circle bigger than the words, in my ears.

Talking about ears. I recognize your way of hearing voices, Unicorn.. In the very relaxed state before sleeping. That kind of "let go" state, where a intellectual part of me is very surprised of what I hear. It can be one voice or more, but what they actually say seldom gives meaning, even if it is said with a lot of energy. The voices can also talk to each other , like a discussion. If I force myself to be more awake, it disappears.

There might be some "food" there for helping others, or to get new knowledge, because now and then I recognize the voice as belonging to a friend. I then listen as careful I can without being to attentive, to get a branch of meaning as a silent knowledge for me to use next time I see this person

One detail, I noticed, is that these voices speaks swedish if I visit Sweden.

The " let go " state /feeling is interesting. As I am a musician, and love to improvise, it is clear to me that the Merciful Moments, where the music lives its own life, is when I managed to let go my intellect, there is a flow, and what happened musically I can not explain theoretically after on.

So I agree with you, Sunshaker, that this phenomena has a potential to be a vital part in the healing process, after being thru the sausage machine. And/ perhaps but, the balance between control vs letting go, might be an interesting field relevant to the healing process.

I have never used drugs, so I can not tell, but its seems to be a powerful, " loose control" factor. And in the other end we might fight a cold intellect that has its obvious limitations as a stand alone tool

I once ( and for the last time ) consulted a psychiatrist, because of voices. His concern was if the voices told me to do anything, and if so, if I would obey ?
The feeling of being in control in my own life is crucial, so when I surrender my matra is " I am strong and humble" , saying to myself that being humble, to let go, is a strong action.
Not everyone fall easily in sleep ? To let go needs some degree of trust.

[idiit]

the message was from my higher self to me.

I took a beating. everyone called the damage me. it's like having cancer and ppl calling me cancer.

I took it.

I got healed. ( got my hair back).

i'm coming back like a bear, a roaring bear.

I wish others would do the same.

you are only a victim if you allow yourself to be one is true in many, but not all situations.

some ppl can't come back. they die miserable deaths. i'm fortunate to be able to be in a healing process. many are not so fortunate; some by their own self imposed victimization.

[jaybee]

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you know your 'poem' to self idiit - well it reminded me of a little rhyme that my Dad used to say when me and my brother were kids - in a normal out loud voice...

fuzzy wuzzy was a bear
fuzzy wuzzy had no hair
fuzzy wuzzy wasn't fuzzy
wuz he?

:)


re voices - - I've heard my name and a few other things that I forget now called out in that time between being awake and asleep - just like someone was in the room with me - and sometimes thoughts can pop up at times that seem like they come from elsewhere - (yikes - do they ALL come from elsewhere - like the Higher Self in another dimension)

Could we call thoughts very very quiet voices - so quiet only we can hear them?

Unless someone else receives them telepathically then they hear the very very quiet voice as well...?


This came in from somewhere recently.... :gossip:


In the Land of Mind
Freedom reigns
Like a beautiful savage
Wild
Untamed


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[dirmanam]

I am happy to hear that you have recovered, Idiit! :)

Talking for myself, bodily pain and physical struggle reaches a point where the soul may raise its voice, as a reminder, as a wake up call, that being a Human I need to bring the trinity of body, spirit and soul deeper into my awareness.. as if they unite in a Holy Marriage ( to listen and to respect each other :) and in this way have a sound basis for recovery, a happy life

Have not looked into your yoga link before, but thanks