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Zionbrion
25th October 2015, 16:35
So this is an article by Michael Snyder, whom I have mixed feelings on, because he is selling something and hes way to Christian for me, for instance a few articles ago he critisized the Pope for basically saying that Muslims are worshipping the same God as Catholics. Anyways here he relays information from a guy named Polny who predicted the end of August market crash, but said people would be disapointed by the Shemitah and that the crash would really heat up in November. The thing is he is also selling something, mainly gold and market predictions at quite a high price. So that's my disclaimer. :)
His latest prediction accuarcy is what sparked my interest though.


Expert That Correctly Predicted Market Moves In July, August And September Says Stocks Will Crash In November

Dollars Folded - Public DomainWhen someone is right over and over and over, eventually people start paying attention. Personally, I have learned to tune out the “forecasts” of most “economic experts” out there. As an attorney, I was trained to be skeptical, and I have found that most forecasts about what the financial markets are going to do are not worth the paper they are printed on. However, once in a while something comes along that really gets my attention. Over the past few days, I have seen a number of references to the remarkable forecasts of Bo Polny of Gold 2020 Forecast. In recent months he has correctly predicted that U.S. stocks would begin to drop in July, that there would be a huge plunge in August and that that the month of September would be rather uneventful. Now he is saying that he expects “November to be a complete meltdown on the U.S. and world markets”. Just because he has been right in the past does not guarantee that he will be correct this time around, but lots of people (like me) are starting to pay attention.

So how does Polny come to his conclusions? Well, he uses something that most of us hated when we were in school – mathematics. The following comes from the Daily Sheeple…

Cyclical analyst Bo Polny of Gold 2020 Forecast utilizes advanced mathematical formulas and years of cyclical analysis to make forecasts about global stock markets. In late July he noted that U.S. stock markets had hit a top and that investors should prepare for a rapid down-move in the Dow Jones and other indexes. As we now know, that prediction has come to pass.

But while many on Wall Street panicked, Polny noted that the crash was not yet imminent and that the month of September would be relatively calm, with no major moves up or down forecast to occur. Once again, his analysis proved accurate.

I want to stress that I do not know if he will be right this time around. When trying to forecast the future of the markets, there are thousands of moving pieces, and many of them cannot be accounted for easily. But without a doubt the markets are perfectly primed for a major crash, so it would not surprise me in the least if he did turn out to be correct.

And as I mentioned above, Polny does have a solid track record of accuracy…

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Bo’s model appears to have an impressive track record of accurate predictions, including the following:

Price of gold reaching $1900 in 2011
China’s stock market peak in April 2015
Hong Kong market peak on April 29 2015
U.S. stock market drop beginning in July 2015
Sharp drop in the stop market in August 2015
U.S. stock market uneventful in September 2015
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If Polny is right again this time, next month will be the most significant month for global financial markets since the crash of 2008. Here is more from Z3News…

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In an interview with Future Money Trends on October 17 2015, he made the following comments:

“Now we are expecting the next leg down on the U.S. and world markets on the dollar. What we are forecasting now is the lows of August are all going to break. They could break in the month of October yet, but we believe they will break no problem into November. We expect November to be a complete meltdown on the U.S. and world markets.”

He also posted the following statements on his website:

“If you thought the crash of August 2015 was bad; November 2015 is expected to usher in the START of the US Stock, Dollar, and Treasuries Market MELTDOWN!!!”

“The end of this year ushers in the start of an Economic Meltdown that is to last years! The U.S. Dollar, Treasuries, and Stock Market bomb is set to blow in November 2015!”

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Polny is projecting that stocks could ultimately fall by as much as 70 percent by the time it is all said and done. You can watch a full interview where he discusses these things right here.

Meanwhile, early signs of the kind of trouble that Polny is warning about continue to pop up.

On Wednesday, the stock price of one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world absolutely crashed after a report came out claiming that it was in danger of suffering the same fate as Enron…

Hedge fund darling Valeant Pharmaceuticals is getting hammered after short-selling-firm Citron Research published a report comparing it to Enron.

The Canadian drug company’s stock was last down about 25% at around $110. It had fallen as low as $88.50.

The stock has been popular among hedge funds.

It ranked No. 10 on Goldman Sachs’ stocks that “matter most” to hedge funds list for the second quarter. According to Goldman, 32 funds had the stock as one of their top-10 stock holdings.

And this week we learned that construction machinery giant Caterpillar has now reported global sales declines for 34 consecutive months. The following comes from Zero Hedge…

Most cats bounce at least once when they die, but not this one: after CAT posted its first annual drop in retail sales in December of 2012, it has failed to see a rise in retail sales even once.

In fact, since then Caterpillar has seen 34 consecutive months of declining global sales, and 11 consecutive months of double digit declines!

Those that assume that everything is going to be “just fine” now that we have gotten past September are going to be dead wrong.

Whether it happens in November or not, the kind of chaotic financial collapse that Bo Polny is warning about will happen.

And of course factors that he is unable to account for such as war, terror attacks and major natural disasters could greatly accelerate things.

Once again, I don’t know if everything that Bo Polny is saying is going to turn out to be 100% accurate or not. I am just reporting what he is saying. But it is true that what he is forecasting fits very well with what I have been warning my readers about for months and months.

A day of reckoning is most definitely coming for global financial markets.

Will it happen in November?

Stay tuned…


Polny's website: http://www.gold2020forecast.com

Citizen No2
25th October 2015, 18:10
The bubble bursting is cyclical, much like most things. Consumerism will eat itself.

I was caught with my pants down in 2000 & 2008, even though I knew it was coming............ not this time though. I am as insulated as can be.

Financial collapse and war are kiff and kin to each other, and both are prime to go 'hot'. Timing looks about right. I've a feeling that this will be different to what has gone before........ Hope I am wrong, but this feels very different this time around.

Keep ahold fellow Citizens........ keep ahold.


Regards.

Morbid
25th October 2015, 19:07
to be honest in a completely manipulated prony system nothing can be predicted as events are planned and executed. so far the trap seems to be set and a lure provided. will see the result of biggedt in history wealth transfer. fasten your seatbelts folks!

WhiteLove
25th October 2015, 19:41
Please have a look at my forecasts too, here is the latest:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85119-Market-Watch-2008-year-performance-not-repeating-now--Sep-08-&p=997093&highlight=Market+Watch+whitelove#post997093

At this point I'm not seeing a crash in November. There are several "positive" things making me not jump the gun very quickly. IT companies like Google and Amazon are doing great in terms of their financial results, driven by the cloud age that is now starting to take off. The momentum on insurance investments such as Gold is low. Oil is weak. USDEUR and USDCNY are both strong. There are currently no clear indications of market weakness, the upside potential is also quite good and no political changes ahead for some time. In fact at this point I doubt that we will have any major downturns during the rest of the year. But there are some indications that the markets might not be super bullish. For instance the Walmart stock continues to be very weak, over the last 6 months it has lost 1/3 of its value, which is a lot for a company at this size. I think part of the reason is that the cost of products/services online are causing trouble for companies that have invested heavily into business driven on premise. This causes a situation with less products and services available to customers on premise, at higher prices, which kind of works against the whole idea of having stores located near the customers. Walmart tries to fix this by improving their customer service, but that's not the issue. The issue is that they sell less interesting products and services and at a higher price, and no customer service in the world is going to fix that issue. As I see it they need to change their business model and make their Walmart stores into supply facilities for their online services. But they don't have an ideal position to make such a move and it is a new expertise, while at the same time slow moves means their assets are going to quickly turn into liabilities. Maybe they should just supply fresh food to customers and create smart ways of delivering that fresh food to customers. LOL :bigsmile:

Jayren
25th October 2015, 22:45
I honestly think the dates they predict are not true and they want you to sit and wait for something that might not even happen so that it may prevent you from moving forward and make you feel stupid for believing in something that didn't even happen, they collect energy like that so don't be surprised if it doesn't happen as predicted so just get used to the lives you're living now and move on from that just keep moving forward no matter what happens.

Zionbrion
25th October 2015, 23:54
I honestly think the dates they predict are not true and they want you to sit and wait for something that might not even happen so that it may prevent you from moving forward and make you feel stupid for believing in something that didn't even happen, they collect energy like that so don't be surprised if it doesn't happen as predicted so just get used to the lives you're living now and move on from that just keep moving forward no matter what happens.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me...uh like 10 times now, shame on me. :)

WhiteLove
26th October 2015, 00:08
I honestly think the dates they predict are not true and they want you to sit and wait for something that might not even happen so that it may prevent you from moving forward and make you feel stupid for believing in something that didn't even happen, they collect energy like that so don't be surprised if it doesn't happen as predicted so just get used to the lives you're living now and move on from that just keep moving forward no matter what happens.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me...uh like 10 times now, shame on me. :)

Heh... :)
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Zionbrion
26th October 2015, 00:59
Please have a look at my forecasts too, here is the latest:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85119-Market-Watch-2008-year-performance-not-repeating-now--Sep-08-&p=997093&highlight=Market+Watch+whitelove#post997093

At this point I'm not seeing a crash in November. There are several "positive" things making me not jump the gun very quickly. IT companies like Google and Amazon are doing great in terms of their financial results, driven by the cloud age that is now starting to take off. The momentum on insurance investments such as Gold is low. Oil is weak. USDEUR and USDCNY are both strong. There are currently no clear indications of market weakness, the upside potential is also quite good and no political changes ahead for some time. In fact at this point I doubt that we will have any major downturns during the rest of the year. But there are some indications that the markets might not be super bullish. For instance the Walmart stock continues to be very weak, over the last 6 months it has lost 1/3 of its value, which is a lot for a company at this size. I think part of the reason is that the cost of products/services online are causing trouble for companies that have invested heavily into business driven on premise. This causes a situation with less products and services available to customers on premise, at higher prices, which kind of works against the whole idea of having stores located near the customers. Walmart tries to fix this by improving their customer service, but that's not the issue. The issue is that they sell less interesting products and services and at a higher price, and no customer service in the world is going to fix that issue. As I see it they need to change their business model and make their Walmart stores into supply facilities for their online services. But they don't have an ideal position to make such a move and it is a new expertise, while at the same time slow moves means their assets are going to quickly turn into liabilities. Maybe they should just supply fresh food to customers and create smart ways of delivering that fresh food to customers. LOL :bigsmile:

I remember at one point earlier this year you were predicting downward markets, but then in early Septemberish you changed your outlook. I did read and participate in that thread you mentioned.

It was interesting when I visited that thread I noticed Buddha's palm erased his comments, and then noticed he erased all his comments on every thread. Too bad, I always liked his input.

Matt P
26th October 2015, 10:56
Michael Snyder IS selling something and it's called FEAR. Everything he writes, almost without exception, is the worst possible negative prediction he can come up with. According to Snyder the next major collapse/crisis/catastrophe is always just around the corner. Sooner or later he might be right (even a broken clock is right twice a day) but I choose to never give my focus and energy to his constant negativity.

Matt

mgray
26th October 2015, 12:31
How can anyone predict the next financial collapse in this environment?

The markets and the economy are so managed by central banks with a open checkbook that all economic theories have been so perverted they cease to be relevant.

We are obviously in a global recession, but since central banks are cutting interest rates and promising more easing (China and ECB respectively) what's the point.

We are in the midst of a currency war as laid out by Jim Rickards. Growth comes at the expense of another country and its a race to zero with no winners.

As I have said, I'm not about projecting fear porn on the economy. Anyone who has read my blog (link in signature) knows I lay out facts that lead to my conclusions.

conk
29th October 2015, 20:32
The only ones who know when the collapse will occur are the people pulling the trigger, period.

T Smith
30th October 2015, 03:07
The only reason these type of forecasts are given any credibility at all is because they are founded on reason and fact. Nothing Michael Synder lays out is overblown, inaccurate, or patently false. His analysis is solid. It's the conclusions he bases on those facts and analysis that are flawed.

The reality is much more subtle. We are sitting on a power keg; that is obvious. I don't need Michael Synder's top-ten-reason's list to convince me of that. Could it all blow up at anytime? Yes. Will it blow up in November? Did it blow up in September, or October? (like so many predicted?) NO.

The thing is:

This powder keg's fuse is attached to a slow burning cigarette. The end of that fuse is a huge pile of dynamite, but the cigarette is burning very slooooowwly. Yes, it will eventually blow, but it is designed to be a slow burn... I find this point is often sadly overlooked in the alternative media--and even here on Avalon by some very bright and astute observers whose analysis is spot on, and whose commentary aptly exposes the lies, deceit, fraud, and economic reality, but who are nonetheless not so good at figuring out what it all means.

This is the frog in the pot, folks. By design. The objective of this economic meltdown is to make us all absolutely destitute and dependent, little by little, and ever so slowly, without us unsuspecting serfs ever even knowing what is even happening to us. Those of us who do know what is happening cry out on the roof tops that the sky is falling, only to demonstrate to the idiocracy that the sky never seems to fall... we are discredited, even though we are right.

In short, an economic collapse would be way to obvious.

As a more than casual observer of this dynamic, I can assert with a fair deal of certainty that the dollar is not going to collapse violently anytime soon, nor will the economy collapse, nor will the stock market or bond market collapse....anytime soon. These institutions are in collapse already. We are well into the process of what Michael Synder is describing.

This is a controlled demolition, folks. And it's coming down in slow motion so we know not how to resist. And the dismantlers know exactly what they are doing.

Morbid
30th October 2015, 13:36
very well said T Smith. i would also reinforce your statement by Andrei Fursov's opinion regarding all this that he voices regarding the difference with this particular crysis at hand. he is the history professor, geopolitical analysist and is well into elites methods of control - basically an extremely clever guy who also got his own unique course programme on all this in moscow MGU university.
basically he states that this crysis is being taken out of control of current powers that be - they want a sudden panic crash. though the process is now being highjacked by other group which is not interested in violence and would prefer a smooth and swift transition.

backers of fed/imf/wb vs brics. im still questioning whether brics would be beneficial to us in the end as it could be a honeytrap. i believe it could serve as a transitional institution towards a lighter future. will see..

seah
30th October 2015, 15:22
I would like to gently put this thought out here, in the form of two questions. Why is it so important that a financial collapse be in our future? and what makes you think that a new monetary system is not going to be ruled by the same ruthless entities that govern the present one?

In my experience of looking at our history, they (tptb) have always been decades ahead in any, seemingly new and progressive, societal direction; having control of both sides, all bases are covered, and the unknowing public actually believe they are choosing the better of the two. No wonder they refer to us as sheeple.

Morbid
30th October 2015, 15:58
well its still viable to keep at least a little faith. right?