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chancy
31st October 2015, 06:55
Hello Everyone:
Just when people were worried about the Switzerland Hadron Collider China is building one twice the size.
chancy
Link:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/china-building-massive-particle-accelerator-151952826.html
Article:
China Building MASSIVE Particle Accelerator Twice The Size Of Large Hadron Collider
Yahoo NewsYahoo News – 14 hours ago - October 30 - 2015
China is planning to build an enormous particle accelerator twice the size and seven times as powerful as CERN’s Large Hadron Collider, according to state media reports.
According to China Daily, the new facility will be capable of producing millions of Higgs boson particles - a great deal more than the Large Hadron Collider which originally discovered the ‘God particle’ back in 2012.
The Higgs boson particle is important because it is thought to be one of the basic building clocks of the universe.
Planning for China’s large-scale project started back in 2013, Wang Yifang, director of the Institute of High Energy Physics at the China Academy of Sciences told China Daily.
While many nations are limiting the amount of funds available for research with no clear applications, China is reportedly spending huge sums of money on theoretical and practical scientific research in a bid to become a word leader in a number of fields.
The scientists behind the project stressed that it would be ‘a machine for the world and by the world: not a Chinese one’, with physicists from around the globe travelling to China to work on it.
The Large Hadron Collider, based in Switzerland, is currently the world’s largest particle accelerator and was completed in 2008. It was shut down in 2013 for a two-year upgrade and started delivering data again in June 2015.
Nasu
31st October 2015, 06:58
For the world and by the world... Hmmmn.. The whole thing sounds spooky. Let's hope it's built better than the crap we buy.. N
Red Skywalker
31st October 2015, 17:41
It will be of no use and could damage so much of this Universe. Why don't they try to find a better understanding of the Universe other then their 'particle' theories? To me, they are wrong and on a dead and damaging end. Even I can give a better, also bolt and nuts theory which can explain the same physics phenomena. Besides that, this theory also explains the workings of an electromagnetic star vehicle ... or ufo.
It's so frustrating :ufo: One day I'll fly away from this buls... planet and put it into quarantine. Or did I that already? Don't remember anymore.
Or, why they want to build a 'Stargate' to nowhere?
Sunny-side-up
31st October 2015, 20:22
Red Skywalker
It will be of no use and could damage so much of this Universe. Why don't they try to find a better understanding of the Universe other then their 'particle' theories?
As I'm guessing you know, It's because the machine is nothing to do with finding what they say they are looking for, that which they tell the mainstream!
Red Skywalker
1st November 2015, 08:01
Red Skywalker
It will be of no use and could damage so much of this Universe. Why don't they try to find a better understanding of the Universe other then their 'particle' theories?
As I'm guessing you know, It's because the machine is nothing to do with finding what they say they are looking for, that which they tell the mainstream!
That must be. They cann't be so stupid. But what is the real purpose and who is behind it? Why China too, or are they making something too counterattack? MAN, what a questions and all to hide the real knowledge.
heyokah
1st November 2015, 08:26
As this MASSIVE Particle Accelerator will be twice the size of Large Hadron Collider one should really watch this video that I posted earlier
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovdXq5KitUg
Go to CERNTHUTH site to get more information.
https://cerntruth.wordpress.com/
Sunny-side-up
1st November 2015, 11:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovdXq5KitUg
Evolution of the machines! no, evolution of the Psychopathic Lunatics!
Things just get worse but thx for the vid!
Sunny-side-up
1st November 2015, 11:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovdXq5KitUg
Evolution of the machines! no, evolution of the Psychopathic Lunatics!
Things just get worse but thx for the vid!
Really dose look like we are doomed :(
We hear that atomic weapons damage Souls,
what the hell would liquid quarks explosions do?
they are pushing things to the point of no comeback!
observer
1st November 2015, 13:14
Thank you heyokah, for that "strange matters" video.
Any member who doesn't believe there is a real threat from a total Ice-9 meltdown into a black hole, really needs to view that "strange matters" video before making another comment.
The video begs the question, "what has happened to all the strangelets already produced at Brookhaven, and at CERN"? Are they already collecting in a Strange Quark Liquid mass at the center of the Earth? Is the Critical Mass reaction already in progress, needing only a little more mass to begin the unstoppable chain reaction predicted by so many nuclear physicists?
Please, to the members, do some research and most of all do some critical thinking....
wnlight
1st November 2015, 16:50
Is there no one else here with some scientific background? The 'strange matters' video is not based upon solid physics. Strange quarks do not accumulate as in the video. The great mass as claimed by the video must come from somewhere. Either from other mass or transformed from energy. One of my jobs a Fermilab was to watch the lab's total energy consumption which could sometimes be 1 % of the entire Chicago area consumption. That great energy was consumed just to accelerate protons to very high velocity and mass. But only a small number of those protons would actually collide with a target to produce the desired effects. The rest was wasted. Brookhaven was similar, but at a smaller scale. I write 'was' because I have been away for thirty years, but have stayed in the loop. The amount of strange quarks that could be produced in all the late today is extremely small and would be extremely difficult to contain. Also, strong quarks have a short lifetime.
observer
1st November 2015, 17:11
^^^^
How about the Mass at the core-center of the Earth, wnlight, as has been suggested by numerous quantum physicists? Is it possible that all the loose strangelets already produced at the numerous particle accelerators might be collecting in a Strange Quark Liquid within the Mass at that location. How would one know? Is there a way to measure this possibility?
You're the alleged expert, convince the members this is not a possibility.
Thanks for your participation....
heyokah
1st November 2015, 18:05
Is there no one else here with some scientific background? The 'strange matters' video is not based upon solid physics. Strange quarks do not accumulate as in the video. The great mass as claimed by the video must come from somewhere. Either from other mass or transformed from energy. One of my jobs a Fermilab was to watch the lab's total energy consumption which could sometimes be 1 % of the entire Chicago area consumption. That great energy was consumed just to accelerate protons to very high velocity and mass. But only a small number of those protons would actually collide with a target to produce the desired effects. The rest was wasted. Brookhaven was similar, but at a smaller scale. I write 'was' because I have been away for thirty years, but have stayed in the loop. The amount of strange quarks that could be produced in all the late today is extremely small and would be extremely difficult to contain. Also, strong quarks have a short lifetime.
Thank you, wnlight. Here's some more information about where this video came from.
From the CERNTRUTH (https://cerntruth.wordpress.com/)site, which I've mentioned before and didn't get much attention at that time.....
CERN’s Large Hadron Collider will start working again in March
The particle collider, which has undergone a $151 million upgrade, will resume circulating proton beams in March and expects the first collision to occur in May 2015.
It will be able to function at double its previous power, which will help physicists gain a deeper understanding of the Universe, including dark matter and dark energy.........
Dark as Dark can be??
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In the graphs, developed in detail in the different posts of this web (https://cerntruth.wordpress.com), we show the 3 distinctive Life extinction events that the Large Hadron Collider – a quark cannon that throws bullets of the densest, most explosive material of the Universe, quark condensates – can cause, once it is put on line at double potency in Spring 2015, over the 10 Tev barrier of creation of dark matter - the theoretical minimal energy of formation of a ‘bag of strangelets’ and ‘micro-black holes’.
- Creation of baby black holes that do not evaporate, either as top quark condensates (Einstein’s famous frozen stars) or string stars with higher dimensionality. This risk has been overblown by media, since it is less likely and black hole theory has still a ‘mythic, speculative’ side that allowed them to divert attention from the truly, well-proved, scientific catastrophe:
- Creation of strangelets – lumps of strange quarks shown to be very common in the Universe, as all pulsars seems to be frozen, strange quark stars. This risk is absolute, meaning that according to the ‘Totalitarian Principle’ of physics, all particles that can theoretically happen will happen. And strange quark matter will theoretically happen, since the LHC is merely beyond ‘speculative theories’ a quark cannon, which produces massive quantities of strange quarks at high energy regimes.
Now, a strangelet is nothing strange, it is merely a ‘lump of strange quarks’. And we know those lumps of strange quarks, once formed devour our lighter, simpler up and down quarks.
And as it happens, the LHC is just a ‘quark cannon that produces lumps of strange quarks, strangelets. The LHC is a cyclical, ‘never-ending’ cannon barrel, that accelerates lead ion ‘bullets’ every cycle, the heaviest non-radioactive atom with more quarks, with two purposes: to increase the mass of those quarks transforming them into ‘strange quarks’, and then collide them to make ‘strangelets’, strange quark condensates.
The LHC is JUST A FACTORY of strangelets, and so when it goes on line at full potency, will just mass produce strangelets
Thus strangelets will be made at CERN between 2015 and 2020 on collisions over 10 Tev. Then those strangelets will fall to the center of the Earth undetected (which will excuse CERN from responsibility, AS IT will deny it produced them till the end), and it will eat up the Earth inside out, till it converts it into a 15 km. strangelet rock.
- Finally the magnetic field of the LHC, the strongest on planet Earth, which cause disturbances on the Earth’s magnetic field, cause of Earthquakes that have increased till record numbers, similar to those of II World War during the carpet bombing of the pacific seismic ‘ring of fire’, since the machine was put on line in a continuous growth that made April 2014, the all time record for this month.
Any of those 3 scenarios should have deterred CERN’s physicists and its political backers, from upgrading the machine to double potency in 2015, but physicists and the P.R.ess considers the issue closed and prefer wishful thinking to ethic and social responsibility.
Read further
https://cerntruth.wordpress.com
UPDATE. APRIL 2015. CERN PREPARES COLLISIONS AT DOUBLE POTENCY…
(https://cerntruth.wordpress.com/)
I. Theoretical Risks
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In the fall of 2015 CERN will begin colliding groups of 70 million lead hadrons at 287 tev, unpacking millions of quarks in each collision. Those quarks will be first accelerated at light speed, acquiring relativistic mass, becoming heavier strange quarks, the substance of a strange quark-gluon soup called a ‘strangelet‘. The strange liquid has the potential to become stable and start an ‘ice-9′ big-bang reaction. If that happens that effectively transforms the Earth into a pulsar.
While CERN adamantly denies to the public and the press that production of Strangelets is possible, it runs a program called CASTOR for Centaruro And STrangelets Object Research, whose researchers affirm in their inner reports to the company the ‘likely’ probability of creating them. This is in accordance to the most advanced literature on the subject, but of course, it must be hidden to the public and the naive press…
This simple fact – that CERN is just a quark cannon that deconfines and gives heavier mass to quarks, transforming them into the next ‘horizon’ of heavy mass, strange quarks, which eat up planets might seem amazing to the reader, submitted to the ‘rhetoric’ of research and the blatant lies of this institution, a left-over the cold war, ‘refurbished’ with a newspeak of research. But this is the bottom line, simple truth about CERN. CERN says its experiments are similar to cosmic rays, and this is false.
Cosmic rays are mere single protons and gamma rays and electrons, light particles, NOT heavy lead atoms, massed in bunches, crashed to create quarks. So WE NEVER saw a deconfined quark in a cosmic ray.
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https://cerntruth.wordpress.com/
This documentary is worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovdXq5KitUg
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RHIC (https://cerntruth.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/rhic/)is distillating strange liquid
https://cerntruth.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/rhic/
kirolak
1st November 2015, 20:27
I am far too stupid to understand this . . :(
Patrikas
1st November 2015, 21:30
if anyone is interested in Plasma physics it can be explained here by Keshe in laymans terms
http://www.keshefoundation.org/
Sunny-side-up
1st November 2015, 22:29
All above aside I still think they are pushing things to far.
I don't think they really know what they are letting out of the box.
Having said that, I also think there are non-mainstream ulterior motives, they are up-to something not for our benefits!
wnlight
2nd November 2015, 00:50
These powerful particle accelerators are, in a sense, cosmic ray generators. Actual cosmic rays (from space) come in many types and many levels of energy, but the highest energy rays are much higher than what CERN will produce with it's current state of development. You might be relieved to learn that extremely high-energy cosmic rays striking our planet have been provideing sufficient energy to produce AT LEAST 10,000 such mini-black holes EVERY SECOND over the last 4.5 billion years. Yet the earth has not evaporated.
Waiting for a disaster created by CERN here on Earth might be a very boring project. I also read of a concern for magnetic monopoles created at CERN destroying our world. I remember a night I spent sitting at the Meson lab talking with Taiji Yamanouchi back in 1974 about his quest to discover magnetic monopoles. They would allow the creation of free energy devices. Great theory, but they have yet to be discovered.
BTW, I am truly disappointed that I am to be labeled the resident expert on physics at PA. I hope that someone with more physics background will speak up. My background is math and computer software with only a few undergraduate physics courses under my belt. I learned much more about high energy physics on the job at Fermilab and at the Nuclear Test Site.
Please, someone with real physics credentials speak up and best my assertions.
ThePythonicCow
3rd November 2015, 02:09
Please, someone with real physics credentials speak up and best my assertions.
I doubt that the "real physics" is the physics that those with publicly recognized "real credentials" will publicly admit to knowing about.
I do not see much of what I suspect is "real physics" posted here, or anywhere else I know of ... only little bits and pieces and glimmerings seem to show up.
Some of the current people from whom I might to expect find some "real physics" clues:
Robert Distinti (https://www.youtube.com/user/rdistinti) (whom I am currently following closely)
Paul LaViolette (http://etheric.com/ether-physics/) (whom I read with considerable interest in previous years)
Miles Mathis (http://milesmathis.com/) (whose physics I have not yet read, but suspect I should)
I say "current" out of respect for James Clerk Maxwell, Nikola Tesla, and other giants of the past, whom I have not yet read or understood, to my disadvantage no doubt.
I doubt that the real motivations for CERN and other particle accelerators envisioned on that scale are to be found in the physics taught in our Universities.
observer
3rd November 2015, 12:55
The "real physics" that I believe is totally overlooked, is the science of Plasma Physics (http://www.ucl.ac.uk/mssl/space-plasma-physics/plasma-science).
Given that the known universe is an Electromagnetic Phenomenon,
And, within the science of Plasma Physics, Plasma is the fourth state of matter,
Further, plasma cannot exist outside of an electromagnetic field,
And, within the known universe, astrophysicists have observed rivers of plasma hundreds of thousands of light-years long,
Therefore, everything is electromagnetically connected to everything else, down to the microcosm of quantum matter.
This understanding of Plasma Physics explains "Spooky Action At A Distance/Quantum Entanglement: everything is electromagnetically connected to everything else through oceans of plasma. The interaction between the Solar Winds (plasma), and the distortions in the magnetosphere (plasma) observed when CERN is run at maximum capacity, is directly related to how the CERN Experiment is affecting the oceans of plasma throughout the known universe. See link, here (http://truthstreammedia.com/2015/09/16/deep-red-auroras-is-cern-actually-interfering-with-earths-protective-magnetosphere/).
The effects of Plasma Physics, is the "real science" that is not being addressed, in the issue of CERN.
[B]Further Research For A Foundational Understanding:
Thunderbolts of the Gods - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUA7XS0TvA
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