My first OBE

[Chip]

Hello, I didn't want to post this on the main forum, but I had my first OBE last night after years of failed attempts.
The funny thing was that I just went to sleep as normal and found myself in a state where I knew my body was asleep and my conscious was full awake. From there I just knew what I was going to do and it was easy.
I was immediately taken by a vibration that turned into a surprisingly violent shaking. The most perplexing thing that I remember right after this shaking was a disfigured face appeared right in front of my face, as if to scare me. I was not scared at all and actually stared back at it and stuck my tongue out at it. Then immediately afterwards I was outside my body. It was amazing watching myself lift off the bed and seeing myself asleep next to my wife. Although through the darkness of the night I could only make out my silhouette and that of hers.
I did not know what to do at this point as I was so overwhelmed that I immediately found myself back in body. When I was back in I realized I was in the same state and attempted once more but failed the first attempt as I was still in utter amazement. After calming down and feeling completely relaxed I tried again and was successful. It was the exact same experience getting out as described above with the face appearing that seemed to want to intimidate me. This time I wanted to leave my room and as I floated outside wanting to just fly. That I did. I saw the illuminated clouds rush past me overhead and yet not knowing where to go and the utter amazement of this, I found myself back in body.
It is apparent that I need more practice and I need a "willfull" objective next time as just the idea of not knowing what to do or where to go seems to end it.
Any, experienced advice would be appreciated?
Thank you
Chip

[Chip]

It's 10:30 am now and I am still taking notes of my experience.
I think that "thinking to much" during the experience is what kept them both short. When I left my body there was no thought at all just "knowing".
The perplexing facial silouette I experienced was at first thought that of my own. But as I observed it closely it did not look like me at all and I knew it was in the wrong place to be me. I was looking at it as if staring at a mirror yet I knew my face was below me. I then became aware of facial distortions that were somewhat grotesque. This annoyed me more than anything and as if to say mentally "be gone with you", it disappeared.

[lake]

I love the fact that you stayed without fear and knew within you to tell it, the distortion, to be gone. You knew naturally that you had created it and that your mere thought could remove it.
Wonderful .... now that you KNOW ....... I wonder, what will you do?

[betoobig]

Thanks so much for sharing Chip. i am happy for you... When i did the first ones i desired so hard to have new obes that i stoped them from happening, so relax and try to go with the flow, your overself knows where you are going. Love to see you enjoyed so much. You made me remember the feelling of those firsts ones, just great. Thank you
Much love

[Shannon]

Very cool...

Please keep sharing and I hope you are able to continue the experiences. I've only had one at 17 and I still have no idea what the hell happened and have been looking for answers ever since.

Sounds like you have great control and were prepared for it :)

[Chip]

Thank you all!

[awakeningmom]

Thanks for sharing! I'm envious! I've been trying to have them for about five months and can't seem to get my body into the vibratory state. Took a class and am practicing the techniques (not every day, as recommended though), but still nothing! I used to have something akin to OBE's as a small child, but can't seem to replicate it now! Congratulations! Keep us posted. :)

[WhiteLove]

Chipsam, interesting story! That face that you were encountering both times, what's your thoughts on what that is, what role it plays and why it is there?!

[Chip]

Chipsam, interesting story! That face that you were encountering both times, what's your thoughts on what that is, what role it plays and why it is there?!

Two thoughts. One, that it was a construct of my mind created by self, based on subconscious fear. Or that Two, something does not want us to be in this state all together, and having fear will most definitely thwart any effort.

[lake]

Chipsam, interesting story! That face that you were encountering both times, what's your thoughts on what that is, what role it plays and why it is there?!

The 'face' is the ego mind. Its role is to deter any attempt to understand a truer nature.

It is NOT you (although you did create it) .... the same as the body is NOT you (although you did create it) ....... the same as most of your thoughts are NOT you .... but ....... YOUR thoughts ARE your existence here and YOUR landscape here

go figure

:facepalm:

[DianeKJ]

That's so awesome, thanks for sharing!

It's so true that you can over think it and it can limit you, I have those same tendencies. Difficult for me to get out of my own way :ROFL:

The face you mentioned seeing reminds me of what I've read in the past about something called "gatekeepers". Not sure now where that came from (Monroe?). Kind of a way too make sure you are really ready to leave the body and explore, like a test of sorts.

Gratz again, it's all very exciting :)

[Chip]

Chipsam, interesting story! That face that you were encountering both times, what's your thoughts on what that is, what role it plays and why it is there?!


Thanks for sharing! I'm envious! I've been trying to have them for about five months and can't seem to get my body into the vibratory state. Took a class and am practicing the techniques (not every day, as recommended though), but still nothing! I used to have something akin to OBE's as a small child, but can't seem to replicate it now! Congratulations! Keep us posted. :)



Chipsam, interesting story! That face that you were encountering both times, what's your thoughts on what that is, what role it plays and why it is there?!

The 'face' is the ego mind. Its role is to deter any attempt to understand a truer nature.

It is NOT you (although you did create it) .... the same as the body is NOT you (although you did create it) ....... the same as most of your thoughts are NOT you .... but ....... YOUR thoughts ARE your existence here and YOUR landscape here

go figure

:facepalm:

Thank you Lake, that makes sense from all that I can remember reading as well.
Please elaborate on anymore info you may have or any other advice.
I have spent so much time studying Monroe and the advice of others that I think I turned it into a conscious effort. When after last night I think it's more of just maintaining awareness during sleep and knowing that your will is going to take over.
It didn't take any effort! Unlike before, when I layed in bed "trying to create it" or "cause it".
The only thing that practicing it did was make me aware of the point that I got to last night. I absolutely knew that I was in the perfect state of OBE and I willed it to occur. I was in control of it, albeit I wish I could've taken it further .
Hopefully more to come!
Thanks

[Jake]

Welcome to a new perspective.. You are Jaun too... :) (Don Juan Matus, OBE joke,,, lol)

I can't be more excited for you.. I cant tell you how many times i ran to my computer and documented an OBE on this forum! It is a mind feck, no? :)

Journal and goals now! :) If not doing so already, keep a journal by your bed and record your dreams and impressions upon waking up! That will condition your waking mind to more accurately process the memory... Also, jot a couple of goals down. Think them through. When you ar= out-n-about,, you can experiment with your goals,,, ! :)

One of the most commen methods to get out of body (and ages old, i might add) is to become lucidin a dream, and 'project' from there. Just the way you described!! Ha! You see? It IS a perfectly natural process..

The vibrations are experienced by about half of projectors... Not all! I shure as heck feel them.. They are intense and almost impossible to 'relax' through! My goodness, im excited for you... Every single one is just as amazing!

When two vibrating bodies are vibrating just out of phase with each other (tuning guitar strings is a good example) there will be an audible 'waw waw waw' effect, just before they go in tune, or just out of tune! I liken that effect unto the vibrations we experience before an OBE... two bodies (physical and astral) just out of phase with each other.. try describing the vibrations to another! Lol... Its almost impossible..

Google,, Dweller on the Threshold! For ages now, cultural superstitions have played a large part in describing what you experienced out of body.. The Dweller (whom i refer to as the Feller) used to be seen as an old hag, or witch that would sit on ones chest and cause great menacing fear during sleep. You saw a face with red eyes! (Did it FLASH its eyes at you? Mine used to!) Google, hatman... I would see a full on shadow person with a trenchcoat and creepy fedora hat... (and red eyes)

it is a test... A fear based test... One has no business sojourning very deep, if one cannot conquer the Dweller. (The Feller,,, lol...)

The dweller may be completely archetypal, meaning that it is your own fears made manifest.
The dweller may be an entity trying to keep is 'asleep'...
The dweller may be a type of A.I....

Either way, conquer your fear, and you conquer the dweller...

I personally believe that they are actaul astral entities that are like bullies! The feel that if they arent allowed into 'our' realm, then we cant come into theirs.. They manipulate our dreamscape, but they are powerless once we 'call them out'...

I wouldn't dwell on it... You passed the test!! :)

Congrats brother! Now you have to rethink some of the philosophies that you've heard over the years, no?

2nd Cor. 12, vs 2-4...
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows. And I know that this man was caught up into paradise—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— and he heard things that cannot be told, which man may not utter.


Lol...


Love to you, brother... Travel with joy, always...
Jake


Here's one of my anthems! (Try not to get it stuck in yer head,,, lol...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgBr1pt9r44

[betoobig]

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
bravo
thanks Jake, love it

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awesome feeling

[ghostrider]

The inner self knows what's best for us, just go where it leads you , small moves and let it happen ... You've entered a new world , congratulations, it is a great personal milestone... We are behind the curve compared to other humans from other worlds...

[sirdipswitch]

Suggestions??

Certainly!! Bunchest of them!!

You can find them on my thread.

"The Secret Of The Soul and OBE", listed under Spirituality.

As for anyone wishing to learn about Astral Projection, "Adventures Beyond The Body" and "The Secret of The Soul", by William Buhlman, are, (in my opinion) the very best on this planet, for the beginner.

[betoobig]

Wouw Jake, can´t take the song and the joy out, thank you. This is an hymn in all its dimensions. Every Avalonian should listen to it, every human being should do. Love it so much.
Perfect in the speech, perfect in the joy, rythm, everything; man, it lifts you up so much. Really awesome.
LOve

[CaptnNemo]

Hi Chipsam, Thank you for that testimony!! :)

I for myself have been trying for the longest time now...

I started practicing when I was about the age of 14 years old. I am now 40 ...I've always been fascinated by these subjects at a very young age. Used to read a lot of books about them too...

To keep it short, I remember having this ritual when I was in the teens where Id willingly practice trying to have an OBE every Sunday night, each week dedicated to it once I went to bed on those Sunday nights.

Unfortunately, ever since, I have not been able to pass a certain point through the experience. Basically, I would just relax my body and concentrate on my breathing solely to the point where my body would start to feel numb, always starting from the tip of my toes moving upward. That tingly feeling where I could start feeling my body change vibration states.

Usually I would for a few minutes kinda fell asleep and woke up in a very intense vibratory state were I could feel my upper body part from let's say the torso to my head wanting to move up to a sitting position. I know I am close to making it but just can't surpass that stage. I am not afraid of the experience at all so I really don't know where that blockage comes from.

Today, I rarely go to bed with the intention of trying to have an OBE on purpose but find myself once or twice a month waking up in that same vibratory state with the usual amazement that I would finally succeed and move forward in the experience.

I guess I will someday succeed and I'm ready for it, so I believe. Meanwhile I did experience twice in my life lucid dreaming witch is a really fun experience also.

At least I have a very active dream state and usually remember the dreams I have daily. Oh and something weird too, well for me it is. I don't have nightmares at all since the teen years...

I have all kinds of weird intense dreams out of this world, flying saucers, et's and whatnot but to the point of waking up in tears, pain, fear of going back into my dream ? Never!

Anywho, just wanted to share a little about my experiences too!! :)

Take care all!!

[Ikarusion]

Here's one of my anthems! (Try not to get it stuck in yer head,,, lol...)

what a futile attempt that would be. i still know most of the lyrics from a couple of months back. :)
BATHING IN THE LIGHT OF TOTAL LOVE!

[abmqa]

Hi Chip - thanks so much for sharing your experience! - Not sure if this will help you in your efforts. I have been watching a lot of Terrence Mckenna videos lately. During his DMT fueled experiences he encountered very strange beings that spoke to him. One thing that they told him repeatedly is "not to give in to astonishment" or amazement...not sure of the exact words...however I can draw an analogy to your experiences where you say that it was the utter amazement that brought you back to your body? I think if you are able to free yourself from astonishment of the moment perhaps?

[Kimhannah]

Thanks for your experience.....I have a question? When you moved from your body did you hear anything like a whooshing sound going out and coming back into your body?

[banafrit]

Thanks Jake, i had a smile the whole time and a couple of chuckles........loved it.......just loved it ...... (your anthem youtube)