Who ever said there was going to be an apocalypse?

[Jayren]

what if humanity was being controlled to believe in negativity and fear so that they could create the very apocalyptic scenario that they wish to avoid? They are in our movies , video games , television shows. So are we really trying to avoid such negativity and fear? Can humanity get over this negativity and fear? Can we avoid such a apocalyptic scenario for ourselves do we really need a catalyst for our awakening? I am speaking to awakened people on this site who already know of such things. What if we could skip across such destructive behaviors that lead us marching to such major atrocities of our world and just skip over it and create a better one where humanity can evolve faster then the speed of light? Create a kind of tomorrow land but maybe even better. This thread is to discuss possible solutions to the many problems that are facing our world today. Any kind of input is acknowledged and highly recommended. Because let's face it we don't want to be put through hard **** we just want the future we know we can get. So let's discuss that future we want and let's discuss what we can do to get there...

[Inmortal719]

History has taught that man kind cannot change just like that, we can only do so when we're on the verge of destruction...
See the movie ''The Day the Earth Stood Still''
Even though they didn't fully understand what was happening they still did show fear and negativity when they got contacted by aliens, they still thought there was an invasion going on rather than peaceful contact...

[Jayren]

History has taught that man kind cannot change just like that, we can only do so when we're on the verge of destruction...
See the movie ''The Day the Earth Stood Still''
Even though they didn't fully understand what was happening they still did show fear and negativity when they got contacted by aliens, they still thought there was an invasion going on rather than peaceful contact...

Is it possible that we can create a new kind of history?

[Tangri]

History has taught that man kind cannot change just like that, we can only do so when we're on the verge of destruction...
See the movie ''The Day the Earth Stood Still''
Even though they didn't fully understand what was happening they still did show fear and negativity when they got contacted by aliens, they still thought there was an invasion going on rather than peaceful contact...

Is it possible that we can create a new kind of history?

Always , there is a possibility with your potential.

[Inmortal719]

History has taught that man kind cannot change just like that, we can only do so when we're on the verge of destruction...
See the movie ''The Day the Earth Stood Still''
Even though they didn't fully understand what was happening they still did show fear and negativity when they got contacted by aliens, they still thought there was an invasion going on rather than peaceful contact...

Is it possible that we can create a new kind of history?

The only thing that comes into my mind would be starting over somehow, and I mean something like erasing or rejecting things that kept us apart since the start, learn from past mistakes, no hate, no fear, learn all languages, no racism, no countries, no government, just peaceful humans living among themselves respecting nature and every little bit of our enviroment, I mean this is our planet after all, this is where we live ...
Sounds real hard to achieve but yeah we can create a new kind of history, we just need the initiative...

[Jayren]

History has taught that man kind cannot change just like that, we can only do so when we're on the verge of destruction...
See the movie ''The Day the Earth Stood Still''
Even though they didn't fully understand what was happening they still did show fear and negativity when they got contacted by aliens, they still thought there was an invasion going on rather than peaceful contact...

Is it possible that we can create a new kind of history?

Always , there is a possibility with your potential.

Not only my potential but yours to. I love to think that when new ideas spawn it is accepted by our subconscious instantaneously so when it is introduced consciously we all accept it. Same with how it can be done in negative ways to but today we focus only on the positive ones. My potential is as great as yours and everyone else's. So when we create this new history what will it look like?

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History has taught that man kind cannot change just like that, we can only do so when we're on the verge of destruction...
See the movie ''The Day the Earth Stood Still''
Even though they didn't fully understand what was happening they still did show fear and negativity when they got contacted by aliens, they still thought there was an invasion going on rather than peaceful contact...

Is it possible that we can create a new kind of history?

The only thing that comes into my mind would be starting over somehow, and I mean something like erasing or rejecting things that kept us apart since the start, learn from past mistakes, no hate, no fear, learn all languages, no racism, no countries, no government, just peaceful humans living among themselves respecting nature and every little bit of our enviroment, I mean this is our planet after all, this is where we live ...
Sounds real hard to achieve but yeah we can create a new kind of history, we just need the initiative...

And what will this initiative be?

[Inmortal719]

World apocalypse, lol, Global warming and climate changes are on the move so it won't be long

[Jayren]

World apocalypse, lol, Global warming and climate changes are on the move so it won't be long

You really think so? You think these are the only initiatives?

[Sunny-side-up]

History has taught that man kind cannot change just like that, we can only do so when we're on the verge of destruction...
See the movie ''The Day the Earth Stood Still''
Even though they didn't fully understand what was happening they still did show fear and negativity when they got contacted by aliens, they still thought there was an invasion going on rather than peaceful contact...

Is it possible that we can create a new kind of history?

The only thing that comes into my mind would be starting over somehow, and I mean something like erasing or rejecting things that kept us apart since the start, learn from past mistakes, no hate, no fear, learn all languages, no racism, no countries, no government, just peaceful humans living among themselves respecting nature and every little bit of our enviroment, I mean this is our planet after all, this is where we live ...
Sounds real hard to achieve but yeah we can create a new kind of history, we just need the initiative...

I think that has already been done Jayren, a few times now!
We are coming out of 'Concussion' yet again.
This time somehow I think we must make it through with our memories intact, but on an evolved level.

[Sunny-side-up]

World apocalypse, lol, Global warming and climate changes are on the move so it won't be long

You really think so? You think these are the only initiatives?

Not trying to put a downer on things but! I think any Global worming going on (Either natural or other) is just an attempt to stop the next cold spell, which going by the records is due now! (Ice Age)
In such an event now with our planets depleted resources (Trees and open food land) and given our planets population, well the equation is = that not many will survive :(
In the area I live in (South London) if I had to live off grid well, the trees would totally vanish in my area in less that a week, yes there is a very big 'Richmond Park' near where I live complete with thousands of trees, deer and water supplies but that is ROYAL and would be turned into a military compound, which in my view is why the park/s still exists as a wonderland park!

[betoobig]

Apocalypse : translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation. In religious contexts it is usually a disclosure of something hidden.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse
SO, completly YES, an apocalypse is already happening.
No fear.
Love

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an it is just great

[rgray222]

The media and politicians have learned that fear is the great motivator. When they have you believing that there is an apocalypse around every corner they can manipulate your behavior. When you fear terrorism they control your freedom. When you fear a financial collapse they can control your money. When you fear the weather they gain control of virtually every aspect of your life, farming practices, additional taxes, cars you drive, planes you fly on, price and type of energy you consume, where and how you live, etc.

Yes, there is reason to be concerned about these issues but there is no need to live in fear of these issues.

[Baby Steps]

Apocalypse : translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation. In religious contexts it is usually a disclosure of something hidden.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse
SO, completly YES, an apocalypse is already happening.
No fear.
Love

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an it is just great

Yes!!!

There is a channel we can tune into:

It is shouting out that the great unveiling(apocalypse) where people are awakening DOES NOT REQUIRE some kind of collapse. People can gradually awaken to the idea that there are better ways of doing things, but the process can be gentle and peaceful enough that no support systems collapse- instead there is a gradual orderly progression towards sustainable ethical ways. This is all seeding in people's hearts at this time. Change is urgently needed, and the Earth carries in her arsenal the possibility of wiping many of us out to save the Ecosphere, but my feeling is that this is 'on hold' and will remain so, if we progress in the right direction.

But let's not don the rose tinted glasses yet, WE PEOPLE need to manifest the changes collectively and we cannot wait for Wave X,Y,Z, or Blue Jellyfish or Pink Spheres or whatever!!

God bless

[ghostrider]

The same spirit form that desires power and control incarnates every 100-150 years , leaving its mark on every civilization... It's only when people unite for peace, then things change... Only once long ago earth had peace for 3,000 years, the people of Atlantis and lemuria united and drove off earth the Syrian creator overlords... Then Jehav returned and he and his son Jehovah came to power and we all know how that went and is still lingering to this day... People wont let go of punishment for mistakes, they have lost love and forgiveness and all the fruits of the spirit... We must learn to be equal across the board, no matter the race,color, planet of origin ,or level of evolution... Peace is the way ...

[Jayren]

Who is Jehovah and how did he come to power? I do know there is a religion of jehovah witnesses. And if technology is released to heal the ecosphere then humans will undoubtly know what else we can do.

[araucaria]

If you consider that there is a breakaway civilization that has confiscated resources and technology and has the wherewithal literally to break away and emigrate off-planet; and if you consider that these people’s agenda is driving the world crazy on account of the wars, poverty etc. that their separatist campaign leads to; and if you consider that Apocalypse is the inevitable worst-case scenario at the end of this worsening situation of global looting, then they will be wanting to get away off planet at the last moment, not before and not after.

The sensible thing for ordinary people to do would be to let them go if that is what they want: they have given up on the human race and on the planet, good riddance to them. Anyone who stays has not given up and with them we can do business. That is the choice we all made probably many lifetimes ago: to leave or to stay. The upshot of this scenario is that the Apocalypse does not need to happen: when the cabal people have all disappeared, we will have a situation in which good honest citizens can turn this around, to begin with by stopping the wars and feeding the hungry. The Apocalypse does not need to happen, but perhaps we all need the concept and its imminent realization for this scenario to play out. The cabal need it to chase them away; the rest of us need it for exactly the same reason. Some interpretations of our past history suggest that it could not be avoided; the question then is, can it be avoided this time?

We are in this period of crisis, with means both danger and opportunity, i.e. risk-taking. What sort of risk-taking are we talking about? A few analogies might help here.

It may like a ghost train ride. You are heading for something awful and then the train veers away at the last moment. The only risk is imaginary and you can relax and enjoy the fun in the safe advance knowledge that the railway track is laid in such a way that normally speaking nothing can happen to you – unless you have a trainload of panickers who contrive to derail it. A case of inaction being the best form of action, when we have friends in high places – or we are friends in high places – who laid the track in this failsafe way.

Or take that recent boating accident off Canada: too many people standing on one side of the ship when a rogue wave coming from behind them capsized it. Here you had a real threat, the wave, and an element of distraction, the whales or sealions. The lesson here is that if people had ignored the distraction (unlikely in this particular instance – that is what they were there for) and simply sat tight, then the wave would probably have passed under them without causing any serious damage. In this example you have a deadly distraction, but on the other hand, focusing on the oncoming wave would likely have done no good either. Another case of inaction (stability) being the best form of action.

Or take the instance of a tsunami at the seaside. The sea started by going out, and it took a little girl who had studied the phenomenon in school to tell people to get off the beach. Those who did not were mesmerized by the tidal wave doing the unexpected thing. Yet another case of inaction being the best form of action: those not on the beach in the first place had fewer worries. But of those who were, the survivors were the ones who had their wits about them and took action.

However, all these cases involve casualties but also survivors, whereas Apocalypse implies close to zero survivors: a rather uncommon event. What makes all those recent plane disasters look suspicious is the way in which of late they have been skewing the statistics heavily in the direction of zero survivors. This is not so easy when it comes to world wars. Not only are extreme events (manmade included, and planned manmade included) exceedingly rare, their scale is totally unpredictable and therefore less than totally inevitable. See this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86239-Strongest-Hurricane-Ever-recorded---Patricia-23-Oct-2015-Mexico-&p=1013183&viewfull=1#post1013183
This is true even when a predictable component is involved: day follows night, but today is different from yesterday. That is the limit to our risk-taking: tomorrow will be different again, for better or worse; maybe a lot better or a lot worse, less likely a whole lot better or a whole lot worse. But one thing that can be said statistically is that after this long period of increasing misfortunes an improvement is more overdue than a disaster.

In other words, a deteriorating situation can bottom out at any time or in very exceptional circumstances carry on all the way to the ultimate worst case: there is no way of telling the difference in advance. What we call statistical probability is merely the balance of the positive and the negative. In statistical terms, what we call Apocalypse/Armageddon is way off the probability chart. Being that extreme point, the closer you get to it the more likely you are to… see an upturn. Because there is a way of changing the outcome: planning. The normal citizen sees no planning in such occurrences as world wars, still less earthquakes or air disasters. This is partly due to the fact that the best-laid plans can come somewhat unstuck, and the worst-laid plans can prosper unexpectedly; only the planners will know. For those who do see scheming behind certain supposedly random happenings, the possible planning of negative events has as its inevitable corollary: the possible planning of positive events. If the cabal can make more than normal or worse than normal disasters occur, that must be taken as evidence that the opposite is also true.

The thing is that although we see little evidence of this happening, because it doesn’t hit the headlines, it is happening all the same. For an example, see this post: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=554281&viewfull=1#post554281

[Pam]

I do not believe that we would be able to initiate or maintain a radical change for the better without a drastic evolution of our consciousness. At the moment most of us are dominated by egoic whim that tells us we are separate and that we must look out for self first. With this dominant state of consciousness we would slowly destroy any paradise. But looking at it a different way, I wonder, would consciousness change dramatically if we were able to create a better environment?

[Pam]

. People wont let go of punishment for mistakes,they have lost love and forgiveness and all the fruits of the spirit... We must learn to be equal across the board, no matter the race,color, planet of origin ,or level of evolution... Peace is the way ...



ghostrider, you are onto something here!!!! In the US we have taken the punishment of wrongdoers to a new level. Not only do we punish, but we exploit. Ask anyone who has had to interact with the government over alleged wrongdoing, you will be bled dry before they let you go. And obviously, it doesn't work.

[zen deik]

One persons blessing is another's Apocalypse