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onawah

3rd November 2015, 00:54

updated: I am regretting that I posted this info. Apologies for making assumptions. Please see post here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86512-Zeolite-detox-myths-busted-In-lab-tests&p=1016292&viewfull=1#post1016292 ...to be forewarned about this potentially bogus "study". I posted a comment on the Natural News website with the article, which was not published, no doubt because it asked if there were any actual scientists working in Adams' lab.

In lab tests, zeolites do NOT bind with aluminum, lead, uranium, mercury or cadmium... only CESIUM
http://www.naturalnews.com/051805_zeolite_myths_heavy_metals_removal_daily_detox.html
Monday, November 02, 2015
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

Much of what we've all been told about zeolites over the years is a myth. Sadly, even articles published on Natural News have inadvertently repeated this myth, although I am now directing staff to update all zeolite articles on Natural News to reflect the latest scientific findings I'm releasing on the public record.

Last week, I released ICP-MS laboratory analysis data that show the elemental composition of zeolites. Those data reveal something astonishing: zeolites which are consumed as a daily dietary supplement by health-conscious people may contain anywhere from 10ppm to 60ppm lead, plus another 24,000 - 30,000ppm aluminum.

Given that many people are consuming 15g daily of this zeolite powder, they are effectively swallowing 750 micrograms of lead each day, along with as much as 450mg of aluminum daily.

Laboratory testing reveals metals claims to be bogus

The claim by zeolite manufacturers and marketers has long been that zeolites absorb these metals and remove them from the body. Thus, we were all told, even if zeolites contained some lead, that wouldn't be a problem because zeolites remove lead, we were promised.

After months of testing zeolites in the laboratory using a high-end Agilent 7700x ICP-MS instrument, I can now publicly state that zeolites are NOT effective at capturing or eliminating most heavy metals, including lead, uranium, mercury and cadium. Zeolites are also NOT effective at binding with aluminum.

See ICP-MS laboratory data below for full details. (And Click here for a tour of our lab website.)

We've all been hoodwinked by the zeolite industry

When it comes to zeolites, I believe we've all been hoodwinked by the zeolite industry and its marketers -- people who tend to just repeat the same myths they've heard from everybody else, usually without conducting any original research themselves. Even more worrisome, if I hadn't built the Natural News Forensic Food Lab and conducted this original research myself, none of what I'm about to tell you would have been made public by the zeolite manufacturers and marketers themselves.

It turns out that even zeolite consumers had no idea zeolites contained high levels of lead and aluminum. Most consumers have simply taken it on faith that zeolite marketers are telling the truth. The idea that "zeolites detox your body from heavy metals" is very nearly a truism mantra across the natural products industry. But it turns out to be no more true than the Flat Earth theories currently circulating across the 'net.

Zeolites turn out to be really, really bad at accomplishing the very thing they're promoted for: removing heavy metals from the body. The only well-known element zeolites are really strong at capturing and adsorbing is CESIUM, an element with several radioactive isotopes that often contaminate soils and water following nuclear disasters (Fukushima, Chernobyl). Cesium isotopes include 137 and 134, although 137 is by far the most worrisome and persistent in the environment (with a half life of around 29 years, if memory serves me correctly).

It seems I may very well be the only person in the world who has rigorously tested the binding ability of zeolites to various toxic elements and heavy metals in the laboratory. And here, I'm going to share the results with you that show zeolites to be all but worthless with most elements.

Metals Capturing Capacity

As you may recall, I pioneered a digestion simulation methodology that allowed me to test the ability of any substance to bind with toxic elements and heavy metals. Click here to watch my Metals Capturing Capacity video, or click here to see all my laboratory videos.

This process begins with placing the test substance into gastric acid that's almost identical to human gastric acid found in the stomach. The gastric acid solution is then spiked with a known concentration and quantity of selected heavy metals in aqueous form.

From there, the substance is gently rocked for several hours to simulate the churning of the stomach. During this process, some test substances will ABSORB toxic elements (or adsorb, in the case of zeolites), while others will EMIT toxic elements.

For example, I have long established that chlorella, peanut butter and strawberries are all very effective at trapping mercury. I've also found that certain sources of plant-derived calcium are extremely good at capturing lead and cadmium. In fact, this is how I invented my patent-pending Heavy Metals Defense formula shown at this site. As you can see from the laboratory results published there, this formula results in a 99.9% reduction of lead concentration in the gastric acid digestion simulator.

You might wonder, then, what percentage of lead reduction do zeolites accomplish in lab testing?

ZERO.

In fact, slightly worse than zero. Zeolites actually increased the lead concentration of the gastric acid:

Starting concentration of lead, analyzed via ICP-MS: 10,871ppb

Resulting concentration lead, after digestion with zeolites: 11,011 - 11,600ppb depending on the zeolite brand.

In other words, zeolites INCREASED the lead concentration, adding to the amount of lead in the gastric acid. (That's because zeolites contain a high concentration of lead and they can actually release lead during digestion.)

It's the same story for cadmium

Starting concentration of cadmium, analyzed via ICP-MS: 10,524ppb

Resulting concentration of cadium, after digestion with zeolites: 10,586 - 11,867ppb

The cadmium went UP!

Here's the result for arsenic:

Starting concentration of arsenic: 10,836ppb

Resulting concentration of arsenic, after digestion with zeolites: 9,028 - 11,198ppb

At this point, you might think something is wrong with my methodology. Why isn't zeolite adsorbing anything and reducing the concentration of potentially toxic elements?

It turns out that zeolites are very, very good at binding with CESIUM!

Starting concentration of cesium: 10,927ppb

Resulting concentration of cesium, after digestion with zeolites: 1,461 - 1,930ppb

In other words, zeolites adsorbed nearly 87% of cesium. So we know the process of measurement works. This is fully consistent with the known scientific literature on zeolites being used to help decontaminate soils surrounding nuclear accidents. The zeolites "trap" the cesium-134 and cesium-137, blocking it from being taken up by plant roots and contaminating the food supply.

But the zeolites I tested didn't reduce lead, cadmium or arsenic at all. In fact, they increased the concentration of those metals.

It is my belief that zeolite marketers started with the verifiable, true fact that zeolites adsorb cesium, then they generalized that to include "all heavy metals." This is how the myth was born. From there, the myth got repeated over and over until everybody accepted it as a truism. But it isn't true in lab tests. The only element I could get zeolites to capture in an efficient way was cesium. For other elements, the results just weren't there.

Here's the really bad news: Aluminum goes off the charts

One of the many claims made by zeolite marketers is that zeolites also remove aluminum from the body. This is a claim that's even been repeated by guest authors whose articles have appeared here on Natural News.

Yet zeolites are made of very high concentrations of aluminum, and when you place zeolites in gastric acid (i.e. the human stomach), you get a huge increase in the aluminum concentration of the gastric acid.

In my tests, we started with an aluminum concentration of 12,248ppb. Here's what we ended up with after digestion simulation using gastric acid:

Zeolite brand #1: 257,773ppb of aluminum

Zeolite brand #2: 210,044ppb of aluminum

Zeolite brand #3: 184,452ppb of aluminum

In other words, zeolites caused aluminum to INCREASE by as much as 2,100%.

That's quite an increase of aluminum for a dietary supplement that claims to "detox" aluminum from the body.

By the way, for the purpose of laboratory methodology recordkeeping, the masses of zeolite used in these tests were:

Zeolite brand #1: 0.9997g
Zeolite brand #2: 1.0489g
Zeolite brand #3: 1.0074g

We've all been lied to about zeolites

My conclusion from this scientific testing simply cannot be overstated: We've been LIED to about zeolites.

Keep in mind that I say this at great personal cost and legal risk. Not only does this make Natural News look bad for publishing articles that previously repeated the zeolite myth I'm now shattering, but I already have one zeolite company threatening to sue me over these revelations. (No doubt more will threaten me soon, too.)

My commitment is to the truth, not to artificial protectionism of any particular industry or product line. In the same way that I talk about glyphosate found in foods, I'm also dedicated to talking about heavy metals found in dietary supplements.

At this point, it is my opinion that aside from the cesium-related claims, zeolites are being marketed with false claims that imply the substance detoxes your body from all heavy metals.

It is my opinion that the marketers of zeolites have perpetuated a series of false mythologies to profit from selling a product that actually increases the quantity of aluminum and lead being introduced to the body. The fact that zeolites are made with high concentrations of aluminum and lead is indisputable.

It is also my belief that all health-conscious consumers should immediately halt any dietary intake of zeolites right now, unless they are directed to consume zeolites by a qualified naturopathic physician for some emergency application such as accidentally swallowing cesium-137. Even then, that physician needs to read about these laboratory results because they, too, may have been misinformed about zeolites.

Supplement industry FAIL

What we are really dealing with here is a very popular dietary supplement that, in my view, may be substantially increasing the load of lead and aluminum among consumers who take that product on a daily basis (as directed on the labels).

Some of the marketing that has accompanied zeolites has been so outlandishly exaggerated and falsified that it really qualifies as fraud.

This was not apparent to me, of course, until I built a million-dollar laboratory facility and used it to test both the composition and function of zeolites. But now that I've done the research, I cannot deny the validity of the scientific results acquired via careful, meticulous testing methodologies.

The fact that I'm willing to go public with these findings is all the proof you need that I am committed to public health and safety for foods, drugs and dietary supplements as well. When I see a problem that I believe poses a potential risk to consumers, I make sure the lab tests are reproducible, then I go public with it to help raise awareness among consumers.

For the record, I do not sell zeolites as a dietary supplement. The closest I come is Cesium Eliminator which is combined with Heavy Metals Defense and is positioned for use only in extreme nuclear emergencies such as nuclear war. There is no financial motive for me to artificially attack the zeolite industry. In fact, it will probably cost me tens of thousands of dollars to defend myself against frivolous lawsuits that I expect will be filed by zeolite product manufacturers. This is definitely a case where "no good deed goes unpunished."

The reason I am not afraid to go public with all this, however, is because any competent laboratory in the world can reproduce my results. Whatever lawsuits are leveled against me will eventually be thrown out because you can't sue someone for reporting the truth as verified by competent labs.

If you've been taking zeolites, get your blood tested for lead and aluminum

I'm now officially encouraging zeolite consumers to have their blood tested for lead and aluminum.

Please share your results with me at Natural News, because if this is found to be widespread, we may be blowing the whistle on a dietary product that could be directly impacting the health of tens of millions of people... almost all of whom have been wildly misinformed about the composition and function of the product they are taking.

Zeolite manufacturers should voluntarily halt sales

Zeolite manufacturers and marketers, upon reading this, should voluntarily halt all sales of zeolite products. If they wish, they can hire other ICP-MS laboratories to reproduce my own findings and thereby prove to themselves that the information I'm releasing to the public is accurate and sincere.

If a dietary supplement company is acting with integrity and safety for their consumers, they would immediately halt sales of any supplement found to contain such high concentrations of lead and aluminum, especially when that item is positioned as a "daily detox" that promises to remove lead and aluminum.

You will now be able to tell exactly which supplement manufacturers are more interested in profit than public safety by observing who continues to sell zeolite. Those are the ones that will openly LIE about the composition of their products. It has already begun, in fact. One Natural News reader forwarded me a message from a zeolite company who claims their product has "no lead" in it because there were assured it was "100% pure."

This is, of course, complete nonsense. All zeolites contain lead and aluminum. There's no such thing as a lead-free, aluminum-free zeolite, especially since zeolites are made of aluminum.

Just as happened when I published heavy metals laboratory results for contaminated rice protein products, I now fully expect to witness a wave of total lies, defamatory attacks and fraudulent claims from the zeolite industry.

Now you know why my laboratory is in a private location and why myself and other lab technicians are armed at all times with active firearms. Telling the truth is a very risky business these days, and what I've come to learn the hard way is that certain fringe elements of the natural products industry can be just as sleazy and dishonest as the pharma and vaccine industries.

Nevertheless, the science speaks for itself. If you are eating zeolites, you should probably stop. And if you are selling zeolites, you should probably stop that, too.

If you don't stop, you will probably sooner or later find yourself in a class action lawsuit from all your own customers... or shut down by the FDA or FTC, for that matter.

Don't blame me for this. All I did was analyze the stuff you've been selling and publish the results. Shame on you for selling lead and aluminum to your own health-conscious customers and calling it a "daily detox."

syrwong

3rd November 2015, 01:09

This looks a very strong argument against zeolite, but considering the huge amount of money and effort to mislead the public on helath issues, I would think this is disinformation.
(If I am not mistaken, zeolite has been classified as perfectly safe by FDA)

Flash

3rd November 2015, 01:44

wow What do we detoxify with then?

Dennis Leahy

3rd November 2015, 01:55

Thanks to Mike Adams for this research. I really think he's one of the most bestest good guys. He has that rare attribute: integrity.

And thanks Onawah, for bringing it here.

RunningDeer

3rd November 2015, 02:34

wow What do we detoxify with then?

People may want to check out this thread: My experience of taking Hydrogen Peroxide 35% food grade, diluted in water. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?71893-My-experience-of-taking-Hydrogen-Peroxide-35-food-grade-diluted-in-water&highlight=hydrogen+peroxide+Food+Grade)

Thank you, Onawah. I use it about once every couple of months. My intuition guides me. A body clean of toxins, fungi, parasites, and chemicals creates an optimal environment which translates to a greater chance for continued health and/or to repair. Note: after treatment, replace lost minerals, probiotics, etc.

Zeolite:

"Clay is effective for many ailments. It will remove impurities including bacteria, fungi, parasites, chemicals, toxins and even help resolve viral infections. It has been used extensively in the treatment of pain, open wounds, colitis, diarrhea, hemorrhoids, stomach ulcers, constipation and intestinal problems, acne, anemia, and a variety of other health issues. Just about everything unhealthy, everything impure, is irresistibly attracted to clay and becomes subject to immediate elimination."

I'm not here to defend the product, only offering what I found on a specific type of zeolite:

One specific type of zeolite, clinoptilolite (http://www.zeolite.com/doctors.php), has a long and documented history in traditional medicine. When ingested, clinoptilolite will attract and bind to toxic heavy metals and toxins in the body, the same way it does in other applications. It will travel through the body attracting and trapping toxins until it is safely excreted through urine. Clinoptilolite has a stronger attraction to certain elements. For instance, clinoptilolite has the strongest affinity for lead, cadmium, arsenic, then mercury, followed by other positively charged heavy metals and toxins. In addition to removing these heavy metals and toxins, zeolite will also remove chemical toxins like pesticides, herbicides, plastics and radiation from the body.

Constance

3rd November 2015, 03:22

wow What do we detoxify with then?

I have been researching this myself after someone told me this quite some time ago and I discovered that cilantro (coriander) and chlorella bind to heavy metals. There is a lot of data out there but here is a start :sun:

Chlorella

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/28/chlorella-for-mercury-poisoning.aspx

Cilantro (coriander)

http://jonbarron.org/detoxing-full-body-detox/clinically-proven-oral-chelation#.VjgoLbczfIU

RunningDeer

3rd November 2015, 03:23

Natural and Synthetic Zeolites (http://minerals.usgs.gov/mineralofthemonth/zeolites.pdf)

Robert Virta, mineral commodity specialist for the U.S. Geological Survey, prepared the following information about the zeolite industry.

“Volcanic rocks containing natural zeolites — hydrated aluminosilicate minerals that contain alkaline and alkaline-earth metals…”

“…More than 40 natural zeolites have been identified during the past 200 years. Zeolites are distinguished by differences in their chemical compositions and the size and arrangement of their crystal structures. Clinoptilolite is the most commonly mined natural zeolite, followed by chabazite and mordenite.”

What are zeolites? (http://www.explainthatstuff.com/zeolites.html)

Zeolites are hydrated aluminosilicate minerals made from interlinked tetrahedra of alumina (AlO4) and silica (SiO4). In simpler words, they're solids with a relatively open, three-dimensional crystal structure built from the elements aluminum, oxygen, and silicon, with alkali or alkaline-Earth metals (such as sodium, potassium, and magnesium) plus water molecules trapped in the gaps between them. Zeolites form with many different crystalline structures, which have large open pores (sometimes referred to as cavities) in a very regular arrangement and roughly the same size as small molecules.

There are about 40 naturally occurring zeolites, forming in both volcanic and sedimentary rocks; according to the US Geological Survey, the most commonly mined forms include chabazite, clinoptilolite, and mordenite. Dozens more artificial, synthetic zeolites (around 150) have been designed for specific purposes, the best known of which are zeolite A (commonly used as a laundry detergent), zeolites X and Y (two different types of faujasites, used for catalytic cracking), and the petroleum catalyst ZSM-5 (a branded name for pentasil-zeolite)….

What are zeolites used for?

“…This simple idea, so effective in our homes, has much more important uses outside them: zeolites have proved extremely effective at removing radioactive particles from nuclear waste and cleaning up soils contaminated with toxic heavy metals. (Following the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan in 2011, rice farmers spread zeolites on their fields in an attempt to trap any lingering radioactive contaminants.)…”

onawah

3rd November 2015, 05:04

Hopefully this research will spark more interest and more information coming out about the different forms of zeolite and their efficacy.
Mike Adams' info is not always correct, but it often is; however, I don't trust the FDA one bit--they have been bought and sold many times over, as far as I am aware
.

This looks a very strong argument against zeolite, but considering the huge amount of money and effort to mislead the public on helath issues, I would think this is disinformation.
(If I am not mistaken, zeolite has been classified as perfectly safe by FDA)

Elainie

3rd November 2015, 05:22

wow What do we detoxify with then?

Alpha Lipoic acid- Andy Cutler protocol.

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/chelation-the-andy-cutler-protocol/

ThePythonicCow

3rd November 2015, 05:39

I was thinking about adding zeolite to my supplement regimen, but I'm glad now I didn't!

In lab tests, zeolites do NOT bind with aluminum, lead, uranium, mercury or cadmium... only CESIUM

Well, there's good news in there .. very few things bind with Cesium, according to Mike Adam's results (http://labs.naturalnews.com/Video-Metals-Capturing-Capacity.html), and Cesium is the long term most abundant and dangerous radioactive element released by nuclear bombs and failed nuclear reactors.

So that Zeolite on my pantry shelf may have a good use after all !

Gardener

3rd November 2015, 11:35

On the Jon Barron website (http://jonbarron.org/) there is a free download of the book he wrote 'Lessons from the Miracle Doctors'

Scroll to the bottom of the homepage and it is on the right.

I have found it to have great clarity, and help in demystifying a lot of jargon.

idiit

3rd November 2015, 13:49

wow What do we detoxify with then?

i'm using moringa oliefera:

http://baternafarms2.blogspot.no/2012/05/moringa-for-detox.html?_escaped_fragment_

http://moringodetails.blogspot.com/2013/02/moringas-liver-and-body-detox.html

for candida and other fungal infections i'm using nano colloidal silver.

Different sizes of silver nanoparticles were deployed into the different fungus-infected environments. They quickly found out that size did not matter, that the silver nanoparticles were effective at killing the yeasts under all circumstances! The research clearly defined the antifungal properties of silver and showed how various sizes of nanoparticles could be used in multiple applications.

The silver nanoparticles could be suspended in new medicines and be used in hospitals as real preventive care. The silver could be added to mouth washes to help denture wearers prevent the growth of biofilms. Professor Henriques believes that the silver nanoparticles could even be built into dentures, creating a shield against fungal and bacterial growth in the mouth.

Professor Henriques is excited about the future of silver nanoparticles, commenting: "With the emergence of Candida infections which are frequently resistant to the traditional antifungal therapies, there is an increasing need for alternative approaches. So, silver nanoparticles appear to be a new potential strategy to combat these infections. As the nanoparticles are relatively stable in liquid medium they could be developed into a mouthwash solution in the near future." [emphasis added]

Sources for this article include:

http://www.sciencedaily.com

http://www.alphagalileo.org

http://www.naturalnews.com

http://science.naturalnews.com

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/045753_silver_nanoparticles_mouth_infections_fungus.html#ixzz3qR6dpfhk

http://www.naturalnews.com/045753_silver_nanoparticles_mouth_infections_fungus.html#

RunningDeer

3rd November 2015, 14:59

wow What do we detoxify with then?

i'm using moringa oliefera:

I take organic moringa powder every morning. It’s part of a superfoods drink of beet, carrot and kale (http://www.thesynergycompany.com/product-info/pure-vegetable-powders/).

Organic Moringa (https://nuts.com/cookingbaking/powders/moringa-powder/organic.html)

Loaded with tons of nutrients and antioxidants, organic moringa powder (also known as organic moringa leaf powder) is one of nature's most nutritious superfoods. Moringa powder is considered a complete protein because it contains all 9 essential amino acids. Moringa supports the immune system, detoxifies the body, and improves mental clarity.

Moringa Health Benefits

Native to India, Moringa oleifera leaves are highly nutritious and rich in vitamins, manganese, magnesium, lysine, riboflavin, calcium, thiamin, potassium, iron, protein and niacin. Moringa powder also boasts all nine essential amino acids, which our bodies cannot produce naturally but require to function normally. It’s also extremely rich in antioxidants, which protect against cell damage from free radicals, and is a natural plant source of cytokinins, a group of hormones with anti-aging effects.

Ounce for ounce, moringa powder contains: - —> 7x the Vitamin C found in oranges - —> 4x the beta carotene of carrots - —> 3x the iron of spinach - —> 4x as much calcium as milk - —> 3x the potassium of bananas - —> Even more fiber than oats!

Moringa powder may also help with the management of diabetes. A 2006 study conducted by researchers at the Tokyo University of Agriculture found that moringa powder lowered blood glucose levels in diabetic rates. Researchers believe this may be attributed to moringa powder’s high dietary fiber content and the presence of a flavonoid called quercetin.

Pam

3rd November 2015, 16:01

I appreciate the info. I find it so frustrating to think I am doing something good for my body only to find out that the benefits may be outweighed by the negatives. I think this is becoming more prevalent with the toxins that have permeated so many substances. I have steered away from any kind of synthetic supplements and only use food based supplements that are from organic sources, except for sea vegetables.

Maybe chlorella is the way to go when looking for detoxifiers. At the end of the day, trying to stay with organic, natural foods grown locally, avoiding as many packaged processed foods as possible and supplemented with chlorella may be the best bet for health.

Elainie

3rd November 2015, 16:49

Chlorella will bind toxins but does not carry them out of the body. Pecta Sol C is an excellent detoxifier and combined with sodium alginate (from seaweed) will carry them out of the body. For toxins in the brain one needs alpha lipoic acid. I've been on a heavy metal cleansing program (I have it mainly in the brain from having amalgams as a kid) for years and use a variety of products. I stay away from the clay based ones (as well as zeolites) because of the aluminum content. I used to use zeolites for years.

onawah

3rd November 2015, 17:01

I like Jon Barron's info a lot.
I've just started taking moringa powder.
It has the greenest color and smell!
Harald Kautz-Vella said that copper deficiency is something the transhumanist agenda is trying to create in humans, and moringa is reportedly high in copper.
I add fresh raw cilantro to my veggie juice often--very good for pulling out heavy metals, as is fresh aloe vera gel, also a great all around detoxifier.

BlueMuffin

3rd November 2015, 20:12

While I don't question Mike Adams motives here, I do question his application of testing. I'm curious of his attempts at producing a replication of a "gastric acid" environment in simulating an accurate depiction of what happens when a substance is ingested. Even if it did, does this take into account of what happens as it travels through our intestines, blood, enzyme systems, and comes in contact with our very own ecosystem represented by the trillions of Microflora? For example, the body when ingesting substances such as clays which hold a strong negative charge(Zeolites are not the only applications here) will see the opportunity to dispose of some toxins and actually activate enzyme systems and other means so as to dump toxic material along to be eliminated along with the clay.

While the fact these substances are being tested with high levels of certain toxins is noteworthy and something that needs to be investigated, his forgone conclusions are almost baseless and quite dramatic. If anything they should be considered preliminary. What seems to be the most likely culprit here is that the Zeolites being tested are of poor quality and not properly sourced, and have already accumulated toxins from the environment. If this is the case, these companies need to be exposed for producing a low-quality inferior product and endangering their customers.

I stop by Natural News website from time-to-time and have come about Mike's personal boasting of his intelligence and his ever developing lab. One thing that is clear is that Mike Adams is certainly not a scientist and is lacking in many areas of training so as to be qualified to be making such far-reaching conclusions. One has to ask despite his sincerity whether he's actually doing more harm than good?

Constance

3rd November 2015, 20:58

I feel that the key to our state of overall health and wellbeing is synergy.
It is the synergy in the foods - obtained by eating a diverse range of whole, raw, organic foods.
Love all the contributions and thoughts :sun:

onawah

3rd November 2015, 22:23

I agree Mike Adams is a boastful (and egocentric and a bit of a loose cannon), but I didn't realize that the only testing he is talking about here is testing he did in his own lab.
Hopefully, he has some real scientists working there, but unless there is further verification of these results, I will be holding them in question too.
Actually, I've thought for a long time that he needs some psychiatric care, if there is actually such a thing as legitimate psychiatric care.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention, BlueMuffin.
He's likely going to get himself sued one of these days.
Unless he's a disinfo agent, of course (in which case he more likely needs an exorcist).
I apologize for posting the article in the first place.
I should not have been making assumptions.

While I don't question Mike Adams motives here, I do question his application of testing. I'm curious of his attempts at producing a replication of a "gastric acid" environment in simulating an accurate depiction of what happens when a substance is ingested. Even if it did, does this take into account of what happens as it travels through our intestines, blood, enzyme systems, and comes in contact with our very own ecosystem represented by the trillions of Microflora? For example, the body when ingesting substances such as clays which hold a strong negative charge(Zeolites are not the only applications here) will see the opportunity to dispose of some toxins and actually activate enzyme systems and other means so as to dump toxic material along to be eliminated along with the clay.

While the fact these substances are being tested with high levels of certain toxins is noteworthy and something that needs to be investigated, his forgone conclusions are almost baseless and quite dramatic. If anything they should be considered preliminary. What seems to be the most likely culprit here is that the Zeolites being tested are of poor quality and not properly sourced, and have already accumulated toxins from the environment. If this is the case, these companies need to be exposed for producing a low-quality inferior product and endangering their customers.

I stop by Natural News website from time-to-time and have come about Mike's personal boasting of his intelligence and his ever developing lab. One thing that is clear is that Mike Adams is certainly not a scientist and is lacking in many areas of training so as to be qualified to be making such far-reaching conclusions. One has to ask despite his sincerity whether he's actually doing more harm than good?

Pam

3rd November 2015, 22:35

Pam

3rd November 2015, 22:39

Elainie

3rd November 2015, 23:02

Sodium alginate is sold as a single product- however I use it in combo with pecta sol C- https://www.econugenics.com/pectaclear-main/

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syrwong

4th November 2015, 00:19

I found a pdf which lists numerous laboratory research abstracts on the safety and positive effects of zeolite. I have selected the first few headings. This suggests that it is a lie that there are only claims by the companies and almost no vigorous research has been done on zeolite and Adam’s claim that you will get a lot of heavy metals in your body by taking zeolite (this generates great fear for those who want to detox).
http://www.project-italia.it/filealbum/119_0.pdf

Zeolite Research & Scientific Papers on Clinoptilolite
The safety and toxicity is of primary concern to all consumers. Here is a small selection of some of the scientific papers and abstracts sharing the knowledge that Clinoptilolite is safe to consume and has no toxic side effects. After years of vigorous research there are now over 200 scientific papers that have been published. Clink on links to the specific scientific paper abstracts. The numerous research papers over many years demonstrate that Clinoptilolite is safe and non-toxic and we hope that medical practitioners and their patients review some of these papers.

Antiviral properties of clinoptilolite
Antiviral properties of clinoptilolite of this study suggest that there is a therapeutical case for clinoptilolite against the herpes virus.
Magdalena Grce, and Kreimir Pavelic
Microporous and Mesoporous Materials. Volume 79, Issues 1 –3, 1 April 2005, Pages 165–169

Anticancer and antioxidative effects of micronized zeolite clinoptilolite.
The anticancer and antioxidative effects of micronized zeolite clinoptilolite showed a reduction in the cancer count.
Zarkovic N, Zarkovic K, Kralj M, Borovic S, Sabolovic S, Blazi MP
Anticancer Res. 2003 Mar-Apr;23(2B):1589-95.
BACKGROUND:
Treatment of cancer-bearing mice and dogs with micronized zeolite clinoptilolite (MZ) led to improvement of
the overall health status, prolongation of life span and decrease of tumor size in some cases. It also reduced
lipid peroxidation in the liver of mice.

Dietary supplementation with the tribomechanically activated zeolite clinoptilolite in immunodeficiency: effects on the immune system.
Dietary supplementation with an activated zeolite clinoptilolite in immunodeficiency: effects on the immune system which showed no adverse reactions to the treatment.
Ivkovic S, Deutsch U, Silberbach A, Walraph E, Mannel M.
Adv Ther. 2004 Mar-Apr;21(2):135-47.

Ioneo

4th November 2015, 01:37

I received this today

To our Waiora Members from Rik Deitsch:

In response to a recent article on the Internet site Natural News that has raised questions about the safety of zeolites, I wanted you to hear from me as it relates to any concerns you may have.

First of all, the author of the article, Mike Adams, editor of NaturalNews.com, only studied powdered zeolites. Natural Cellular Defense was not evaluated.

It should not have come as a surprise to him that the zeolites contained Aluminum. ALL zeolites contain aluminum by definition – zeolites are “aluminosilicates”. Their only constituents are Aluminum, Silica and Oxygen. The aluminum in the cage structure of the zeolite is non-exchangeable. This means that it is not available to be absorbed by the body and cannot contribute to aluminum toxicity. In his study, he used a strong acid to destroy the zeolite in order to enumerate all of the constituents. This freed up all of the aluminum to be tested. That NEVER happens in the human body – the zeolite cage is stable and remains intact throughout the entire digestive cycle and can be recaptured - unchanged in urine and fecal matter.

In zeolite products that do not undergo a cleansing or “activation” process, you will always find excess heavy metals and VOCs (volatile organic compounds). That’s because zeolites in nature pull these toxins from the environment and from their surroundings. Many companies utilize different cleansing processes to remove the contaminants. As an example, Megamins utilized tribomechanical activation; where they use mechanical activity to sift the zeolite into different purity states by weight and particle size. For Natural Cellular Defense, we use a heat/acid process that burns off the VOCs and precipitates out the extraneous heavy metals. This provides a pure zeolite product with some Calcium and Magnesium added for stability. There will always be very low levels of some metals that are deep within the zeolite cage that cannot be removed – but these are also non-exchangeable and certainly less than you’d find in drinking water.

The author goes on to say that zeolite manufacturers have been “lying” to consumers. This is just not true. The tests for purity and particle size has always been readily available on the Waiora website. We have also always commented on the counter-intuitive concept that the product contains aluminum but is great at removing aluminum from the body. As stated previously – the aluminum in the zeolite is part of the cage and is not exchangeable. Any aluminum in the body that is available to the zeolite will be captured and removed – this has been proven in several clinical studies.

Mr. Adams also accuses manufacturers of “re-toxing” people by supplying them with heavy metals from the zeolite. This is a ridiculous accusation. In all of our trials, we actually blanked our machines against the NCD samples. This means that ANY metals the patients may have received from the zeolite and then excreted would have been discounted from the analysis. We only measured the additional excretion of heavy metals that could be caused by the use of NCD.

I’m frankly surprised that Mike Adams is acting like he would be unaware of any of these facts as he was an early adopter of the zeolite concept and wrote the definitive support article in support of NCD (http://www.naturalnews.com/015232_zeolite_zeolites.html) in 2005. He also knew that there were experts in the field that could have analyzed his data and corrected issues before publication of negative and inflammatory material.

Yes, there are substandard zeolite products in the market. But that’s true of any category of dietary supplement. The fact remains that Natural Cellular Defense has been used successfully by tens of thousands of people for nearly 10 years of use with amazing, reproducible results. We have also conducted several clinical studies and have published our data with peer-review.

Lastly – I posted this information to Mike Adams’ website as a comment on his blog and he did not approve it. That bodes poorly for someone that consistently states that they allow for a balanced conversation. In this case, he is not allowing for reasoned responses to his diatribe against zeolites.

It should also be pointed out that Mr. Adams, is a one-time supporter of Natural Cellular Defense (link to the article is above) and of zeolites. Recently, he launched a competitive zeolite product.

Thank you to all the users and supporters of Natural Cellular Defense. Many have tried to replicate this extraordinary product – and extraordinary results – but there is truly NO equal in the marketplace.

Yours truly,

Rik J. Deitsch

onawah

4th November 2015, 01:45

Great update! Thanks Ioneo. I have modified the original post as follows:

updated: I am regretting that I posted this info. Apologies for making assumptions. Please see posts here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86512-Zeolite-detox-myths-busted-In-lab-tests&p=1016292&viewfull=1#post1016292
and here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86512-Zeolite-detox-myths-busted-In-lab-tests&p=1016357&viewfull=1#post1016357
...to be forewarned about this potentially bogus "study". I posted a comment on the Natural News website with the article, which was not published, no doubt because it asked if there were any actual scientists working in Adams' lab.

...and I am going to ask the Mods if we can change the title, since it appears that it may be Adams who has been busted, not zeolite lab tests.

RunningDeer

4th November 2015, 02:17

Recently, he launched a competitive zeolite product.
Bingo. Competitive zeolite product.

This is similar to my thoughts that I posted back on May 26, 2015. - post 15 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?82479-Mike-Adams-Wake-up-call-warning-get-prepared&p=964410&viewfull=1#post964410)

Posted by Erich (here)
The quiz may not reflect preparedness wisdom, but it is fascinating that it comes from someone I would not expect. I find that very compelling.

RunningDeer:

It's a strong article. Different from Mike Adams' writing style from several years ago or from his earlier books. I've purchased items on his site and use to regularly check out the test results from his 'Forensic Food Lab'.

A couple things I kept in mind when I read and re-read his quiz called, "Preparedness Pop Quiz: If you score less than 20 points on this, you're probably already dead," and what he calls, "His Blunt Message":

1 Many of the products Mike Adams listed on his quiz, he sells on his website.
2 If I'm not mistaken, he resides in Texas which is one of the states where Jade Helm will take place. It's in his best interest that at least the the word gets out.

I haven't paid close attention to Mike Adams for a while. He's changed from when I first found him on the Alex Jones' Show. (or I have, or both) This quiz and article is a reminder of why I chose to go elsewhere for current events.

Dennis Leahy

4th November 2015, 02:23

ThePythonicCow

4th November 2015, 05:18

I haven't paid close attention to Mike Adams for a while. He's changed from when I first found him on the Alex Jones' Show. (or I have, or both)
I believe that both Mike Adams and Alex Jones are in or near Austin, Texas. Some time ago, Mike lived in Vilcabamba, Ecuador for a couple of years.

Here's a rather lengthy and negative report on Mike Adams: The Legend of Mike Adams and the Reality (The Health Wyze Report) (http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/616-special-report-the-legend-of-mike-adams-and-the-reality.html?showall=1). My current sense is that this negative report is closer to the truth than Mike Adams would like.

Callista

4th November 2015, 05:37

Will and I have used Super-Zeo (Kautz-Vella) to good effect - after taking it every day for 4 weeks I finally got a good reading when tested for heavy metals. I have been trying to get rid of heavy metals for 14 years and this has been the most effective protocol for me. I have not tried any other zeolyte products so I can't speak for them, but this method does work and is worth trying, in my opinion.

much love

Callista

gripreaper

4th November 2015, 05:48

If Mike Adams proves to be a deliberate disinfo agent, I'll eat Bill Ryan's hat. (Don't let me down, Mike! I do not wish to eat the skin of an animal, and besides, Bill's head would get cold!)

That's been debunked! :) First of all, the misnomer known as "information" has been shown to have anomalous variables which cannot be fully verified under any type of empirical study, and therefore the probability of the essence of the abstract may promulgate hearsay substantiated only by subjective innuendo to the material being presented.

In addition, the alleged "Hat" has been speculated to have been used as a device for covering an alleged bald spot and in no way, due to the nature of Bill's current location, which has been speculated to be Vicalbamba, which is an arid climate with temperatures not in excess on the scale of Fahrenheit which would cause any undue temperature fluctuations that may cause the wearer any discomfort if the hat was not serendipitously placed on the top of the head in such a way as to cause any type of protection from any ambient temperature fluctuations, if used for that purpose.

Therefore, I would surmise, that you may have a personal agenda and a covert desire for consumption of such animal substrates which have been treated in such a way as to render them into a form which could be used as a device for covering the head, but could also be used for other nefarious reasons of a subjective nature, and that for you to obfuscate this with an alleged proclamation as to the nature and relevance of your declaratory statement could possibly be deceiving and may actually portend a hidden desire for the actual consumption of the device for your own personal aggrandizement and satiation of something which you have not fully disclosed in it's full context, and still remains obfuscated.

In conclusion, I think you really do want to eat the hat and that you really do hope that Mike Adam's is a deliberate disinfo agent and that your conspiracy to try and fool us will not work on me buddy! I've uncovered the fraud and I'm going to expose you for the lies you are telling and you'll never work in this town again! :)

Dennis Leahy

4th November 2015, 05:54

You had me at:
the probability of the essence of the abstract may promulgate hearsay substantiated only by subjective innuendo

Alpha141

4th November 2015, 06:50

I want to offer something with this good example. To take a bit of a step back if you will.

Maybe the key here is to identify if you have an external reliance regarding your own investigation. There is always an enormous amount of data, opinions, views, contradictions etc...Is there a justification (usually fear of the unknown in exploring something new to you) for not trying something and staying exactly where you are. What i suggest isn't solely related to what this topic is about. More so the influence by others over your own exploration. I am not advocating this particular possible addition to what people do with their bodies here. Just offering how people go about discerning something like this. I have no doubt many here do just not assuming anything.

But, what if you take the approach of how you felt in your gut when the instance of such a topic, nutritional advice, info etc comes into your awareness. Then do some of your own research by applying that into discovering how it actually effects you and you alone. For instance, this potential product. Give it a go and see what happens to you. Become stronger from the courage of determining your own results.

The way this reality works is there are always going to be 'People's Champions' built up only to get to some validness in the matrix to then do things that don't add up revealing their purpose. To misdirect and confuse those not willing to explore. It is like knowing the history of politicians always being (pardon my French) scum bags but this new guy on the block might be that one we can finally trust ;)

Maybe it is time to take that leap into Personal Responsibly (as Richard Alan Miller says so eloquently below 'Man has a responsibility for the thoughts he chooses to entertain') and Non Reliance on Externals so much. 'Knowledge in Action is Wisdom' as Andrew Bartzis says.

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Just my 2c's guys.

Good luck all

Dennis Leahy

4th November 2015, 07:37

...
Here's a rather lengthy and negative report on Mike Adams: The Legend of Mike Adams and the Reality (The Health Wyze Report) (http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/616-special-report-the-legend-of-mike-adams-and-the-reality.html?showall=1). My current sense is that this negative report is closer to the truth than Mike Adams would like.Ouch! Alright, I sentence you to have to read that. Whole. Snarling. Hitpiece. And the blog comments below (that include the author.)

Flash

4th November 2015, 17:28

Dennis Leahy

4th November 2015, 19:07

Very interesting and indeed quite controversial. It makes me Wonder where we will one day find truth. So Adams is the supplier of Equipment for spammers hey! not very ethical in my views, supplying the buggers.

And Adams would be a vegan fanatic, omitting information about nutrients that vegan usually lack (B12, B5, D, etc) and promoting soy - interesting indeed too.

And Adam would be changing his speech depending on audience receptivity (re: Alex Jones regular invitee). Interesting too.

Thanks for this Dennis.

Does that mean that Dr Mercola is still the rare reliable source for unbiaised health information? (even this I am starting to doubt)

...
Here's a rather lengthy and negative report on Mike Adams: The Legend of Mike Adams and the Reality (The Health Wyze Report) (http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/616-special-report-the-legend-of-mike-adams-and-the-reality.html?showall=1). My current sense is that this negative report is closer to the truth than Mike Adams would like.Ouch! Alright, I sentence you to have to read that. Whole. Snarling. Hitpiece. And the blog comments below (that include the author.)

[my opinion*]

Take everything in that hit piece with a grain of salt (and two tablespoons of zeolite.)

"spamming software" - look at the list of clients; hardly spammers selling viagra. Businesses that send out email NEED to know how the spam filters work, to make sure their legitimate email does not get caught in a spam filter. The author leaps to nefarious (and illogical) conclusions.

"omitting information about nutrients that vegan usually lack" - was this accusation in that hit piece article? It makes no sense that Mike would ignore the nutrient needs of vegans. I went to the site, clicked on "STORE", and looked for multivitamins that I might buy. I found a "men's" formula for men over 40, and it contains B-12. So, this seems like a moot point. I also looked up "zeolite" on the Natural News Store, and found 3 products: 2 are called "Cesium Eliminator", which is Mike's conclusion** of what zeolite can actually eliminate from the body. The third product is a detoxifying foot pad that contains zeolite, and (apologies in advance to my friends that think crushed tourmaline and amethyst could detoxify us), seems the closest to a woo woo unsubstantiated silly/snakeoil claim by its manufacturer. I can pretty much guarantee that any big online vitamin/supplement retailer on the Intertubes will have some products that would make many of us roll our eyes.

I know that I have personally struggled with "honorable money making" within the corrupt economic reality we live in. It would be very easy to be a "shyster" and make a ton of money - there are plenty of fools with full wallets that could be exploited - if someone had the heart (or lack thereof) to do it. If Mike (or I) wanted to make a LOT of money, we would get into some facet of the military industrial complex corporate structure.

I have a number of friends that went through the MLM (multilevel marketing) model - selling vitamins, supplements, juices, and non-toxic cleaning supplies. They thought they were offering good products and good service, and felt good that they had not taken a typical job where exploitation (environmental and human) is the norm. Even though I abhor the MLM model, I don't hold it against my friends - they were trying to do something honorable (and got caught in the hype.) And, speaking of hype, how many of us saw "The Secret" video, agreed that we were sick of not having much money, and started "asking the Universe" to give us personal prosperity? Are we going to turn around and say its bad when Mike did it, but when we thought the same thoughts, it was OK?

The article was written by someone that (in my opinion) would like to beat Mike to death with a bible. Yeah, the guy is a thinly-veiled religious nutcase. Disparaging remarks about "savages" - the medicine men and shamans with thousands of years of history with herbal and other natural healing modalities are merely "savages?" The concept of "Gaia" as something evil?

a few quotes from the "article" author:

"Adams attempted to legitimize occult shamans and medicine men, calling them healers, instead of savages who get their mysterious 'knowledge' from spirits and hallucinogens" - C. Thomas Corriher

"The anti-Christian religions, including the Wiccans (witches), other pagans, and flat-out Satan worshipers have embraced what is legitimately God's medicine. Our community is infested with that human trash, so we needn't look far to find evil. That junk about us not eating animals and saving the environment from humanity isn't a new thing. These are ancient principles of Earth worship going back thousands of years. It's why you see the words 'Natural', 'Earth', 'Mother Earth', and 'Gaia' being thrown around so much at alternative medicine sites. Hidden in plain sight, they are worshiping the 'Great Mother' (also known as 'Mother Earth'). The people of these religions don't really want to help us with our health, despite their embrace of alternatives. In fact, the dark religions promote hurting others for self-gain. They mainly want to stop us from offending their goddess, 'Mother Earth', and that starts with us no longer eating "her" animals. What follows is tricking us into offending the one true God, by disregarding our rightful dominance of nature. He commanded us to eat meats after the great flood, but the pagans tell us that we are to become subservient to the beast(s). We have studied the dark religions, and the patterns are unmistakable. It's why you'll only find the truth here." - C. Thomas CorriherNow, are we really going to use this "article", from a bible-thumping kook, to demonize Mike Adams?[/my opinion]

*this is just me, an individual, and my opinion. This has nothing to do with being a mod at Avalon, and I have no hidden or confidential information at my disposal.

**The issue of whether Mike performed a meaningful chemistry experiment to discover whether zeolite does or does not not absorb/adsorb heavy metals is a separate issue - one for which I do not think he deserves crucifixion. He may well be wrong in his chemical analysis conclusion (and stupid to have handled it the way he did), but that's a LONG way from being a deliberate disinformation agent or a shyster.

conk

4th November 2015, 19:13

wow What do we detoxify with then? Niacin, then sweat like crazy.

Dennis Leahy

4th November 2015, 20:41

Is "Clayton Thomas" the same person that wrote the hit-piece demonizing Mike Adams? That author calls himself C. Thomas Corriher.

Anyway, here is an audio (video with no images) of an interview between them, regarding zeolite, published today (2015.11.4):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdxg__mhEEk

djwinner

16th November 2015, 07:54

Zeolite is the real deal...ask any true chemist and they will tell you why. Unfortunately the man discussed here has shown a propensity to go after anyone he sees as a threat in his space...he's a pure marketer and the dude is losing face quickly within the informed alternative health community. I highly recommend zeolite for every human on this planet....especially with Fukushima raging away and the never ending chemtrailing going on. If possible, HIGHLY recommend getting it in PGTE form for optimum effect. (PM for more info...this is serious business gang)