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Sean
9th November 2015, 16:05
I'm copy/pasting the article here, link at the bottom:

he Crash, Coming into Focus, Hebdo and Much More
Column: Politics
Region: Russia in the World

881029694To understand events like the crash that killed 224 Russian citizens in Sinai, there are so many misconceptions that have to be addressed. Whatever confusion, betrayal or suffering needs to be addressed, and all three are there in spades, the “Charlie” cartoons, obnoxious and hateful, will be addressed first.

Veterans Today is a clearing house for intelligence leaks from a number of countries, the US certainly but two dozen others as well. We are thankful that there are so many out there who get us the truth and more thankful that they represent factions of those who still value honor and decency and are seldom “lone wolf” whistleblowers, driven by scarred psyche’s and bizarre personal agendas.

That being said, I continue here down a very slippery slope but not alone, backed by my friends in the US, Russia and around the world. If there is reason for hope, and on many days finding reason for hope is almost impossible, this may well be it. It is for me, certainly.

We are addressing the attack on Russia, which is what we are terming the downing of a civilian airliner. It was a personal attack on President Putin, by my estimation, and we will get to this and those responsible but first we will address “Charlie” Hebdo after their “cartoon attack” tied to the crash.

The January 7, 2015 “attack” on “Charlie” was not what it seemed. Veterans Today, with its extensive Paris based news organization, was able to track down several leads while VT editor Kevin Barrett and penned the “medium best seller, “We are NOT Charlie, Free Thinkers Question the French 9/11.”

“Charlie” was as much a test of international levels of ignorance as anything else.

In order to confirm or debunk any incident, it is only necessary to attack the weakest link. With the “Charlie” shootings, we had a high quality video of two terrorists supposedly killing a French police officer with assault rifles.

Doing a frame by frame analysis and ballistic tests, which included blood spatter analysis, we conclusively proved that the video showed terrorists firing blanks and that this one episode was staged by actors. I did the impact analysis myself and, while doing comparisons, where the French scene had powerful and highly penetrating assault rifle cartridges blowing puffs of dust, when reenacted with real bullets baseball sized pieces of concrete blew out of the pavement.

The video showed nothing of the kind, quite the opposite, a childishly staged piece of street theatre “on the cheap.”

We don’t even want to begin talking about what happens when you shoot someone in the head while they are laying on a sidewalk. John Kennedy’s head was supposedly “exploded” by a single low power 6.5mm rifle cartridge. The 7.62mm from an AK47 combined with a powerful muzzle blast from inches away totally obliterates a human head, much less as in the “Charlie” staged video which was both blood and injury free. There were also no appropriate muzzle blasts or recoil and muzzle rise. The blanks had to have been loaded with almost no powder at all, in weapons with barrels heavily crimped to protect the actors and provide backpressure to allow auto-reloading. We tested that too.

My own estimation is that a movie “prop department” was used.

Real world analysis; blood and brains would be stuck to everything within 15 feet with a high likelihood that pieces of skull would, on their own, have wounded or killed the imaginary terrorists.

The staged obscenity that brought Netanyahu to Paris to shove his way to the front of a funeral cortege was just another political game, like so many.

I am not an “activist” with an agenda. I simply use forensic training to critique the childish exercises of intelligence agencies who stage such events for a controlled press.

Thus, when “Charlie” tries to anger and humiliate the Russian people by publishing its current “usual obscenity,” more an insult to the fine French people than anything else, we ask why. Now we look at the downing of the Russian plane.

VT personnel know the Sinai well. VT editor Jeff Smith was there with the UN for some years and has furnished us with his personal photo album of tents, sand and helicopter rides. The first thing VT did was look at the video supplied by those claiming to be ISIS. Backtracking the position using analytical tools,, we quickly found an abandoned Wadi on the flight path which tracked back to a single road, straight to an Egyptian port with a ferry to Jordan.

We also found the placement of the video team as conclusive evidence that the explosive device as controlled by far more than a simple timer. It was likely triggered through satellite communications. Who can do that?

We also found that the video equipment was relatively sophisticated but the video was downgraded to appear as done by an Apple mobile phone. Who does that as well?

We were told that Saudi and Egyptian intelligence used two teams, one planting the bomb at Sharm al Sheikh while the other, further north, infiltrated Sinai from Jordan and did the video pretending to be “ISIS.”

Some of this story was verified when we examined the best evidence, the Al Jazeera story, a fabrication about an imaginary radio call and planned landing in Cairo. Jeff Smith pointed out that there is a UN airfield with sufficient runway for an A321, known to all pilots, very close by in Sinai.

Al Jazeera claimed to have an Egyptian source for their story, later proven to have been fabricated. There was no source. We concluded that Al Jazeera was part and parcel to the staged terror act, a hypothesis based on our long experience with that organization and its relationship to Qatari and Saudi intelligence services.

Al Jazeera is an intelligence front, continually planting “seeded material” created by intelligence agencies the same way Wikileaks does, as was pointed out in December 2010 in an interview on National Public Radio with Zbiginew Brzezinski.

To create context, I will run the clock back to 9/11. Though most find discussions of this event tiresome, we will put minds to rest. We will take a very short look at one incident on that day, as we did with “Charlie” and make our case.

At that time, the most famous journalist in the world was Dan Rather, evening anchor on CBS News, inheritor to the “throne” as it were, of Walter Kronkite. On 9/11, Rather reported that a moving van filled with explosives was stopped by New Jersey State Police on the George Washington Bridge. There, two individuals were arrested, found to be “Israeli art students,” who were heavily armed. Quoting Rather, “the van contained enough explosives to bring down the bridge.”

Two other such vans were stopped in Manhattan and other arrests were made as well but were not reported on national television. All those arrested were Israeli, with over 200 Israelis arrested tied to 9/11 according to high level sources.

CNN carried the same report as CBS and Rather, which has been removed from YouTube many times but still exists, republished on VT last week. Rather, today, has no memory of making the broadcast. We also have surveillance logs showing these same “art students” meeting in Fort Lee, New Jersey, near the bridge, with a Saudi intelligence officer named Mohammed Atta, cited as the mastermind of 9/11. We end our vignette here, assume what you will.

“Art students” were also arrested recovering radio jamming equipment placed on high rise residential buildings in Fort Lee, New Jersey. We only mention this to show the scope of events of this kind and to what degree denial, deception and deceit can influence events.

Now we address what we have been told about the crash. Our initial assumption was that Saudi Arabia with or without their supposedly “new found friends,” the Israelis had done this to humiliate Russia and push President Putin into an act of reprisal that would bring the US and Russia to war.

Using only sources from intelligence agencies, we were then informed that Russia was under the assumption that Saudi intelligence and their paid operatives within Egyptian intelligence were responsible. It’s been stated that: “Half the Egyptians work for Israel, the other half for Saudi Arabia anyway, Egypt has no security services, only paid foreign spies.”

Where does this leave us? If Putin openly attacks the obvious culprits, the Saudis, as if it was ISIS, everyone will assume Saudi Arabia directed them. Then, of course, there is no evidence that ISIS can penetrate airport security. Usually such things are done by Israel, as Israeli companies tied to the Mossad work in almost every airport and Israel produces phony passports for assassins the way a potato factory turns out crisps.

If Russia fails to act openly, the Russian people will feel weakened and humiliated. If Russia acts openly, Putin will have allowed himself to be maneuvered.

This is why this was done, always a “plan within a plan” as with “Charlie” or “9/11,” game theory using press assets and the childish narrative that only the most ignorant of the public and the political puppets who pretend to be world leaders openly accept.
First appeared: http://journal-neo.org/2015/11/09/the-crash-coming-into-focus-hebdo-and-much-more/

Cardillac
9th November 2015, 20:30
if my read sources are correct the publishing co. behind Charlie Hebdo was on the verge of bankrupcy before the "incident"; my, oh my: after the "incident" sales of Charlie Hebdo here in Germany suddenly soared-

Larry

risveglio
10th November 2015, 15:48
I don't trust anything from Veterans Today. Let me guess, Israel did it.

Carmody
10th November 2015, 16:18
I don't trust anything from Veterans Today. Let me guess, Israel did it.

trust in self, go after all things inhuman, go after all things or groups that are against humanity's advancement.

Israel, as it stands, appears to be well within the confines of being against humanity. This, by any measure.

The same for others.

By all means, go after Israel, among the list of other things to be going after.

Israel did it, china did it, the USA did it, the BIS did it, the world bank did it, the bush cartel did it, the CIA did it, the FBI did it, the Rothschilds did it, the Rockefellers did it, the Nazi's (still around today) did it, The Germans did it, the Saudis did it, the Pentagon did it, the Russians did it, black ops corps like Lockheed Martin did it, I.G. Farben did it, Monsanto did it, big pharma did it, the Koch bothers did it, the democratic cartel did it, the neocon cartel did it, big oil did it, the bilderburgs did it, organized crime did it, the church/Vatican did it, almost the entire federal senate and congress and whitehouse of the USA government did it, the entire world of the press and televised news did it, and so on.

All guilty as charged. You can't throw a rock in any direction for any distance, without hitting one of them. The most horrific thing of all, is that this is not some facetious joke of an exaggeration of the current state of affairs.

Seems like finding the innocent and the well intended is more the task.

Carmody
10th November 2015, 16:59
One has to understand that Jimmy Carter got into the white house by mistake and through some very 'avant guarde' unexpected input by Hunter S Thompson.

that is why this remark by him needs to be taken very seriously.

In every one of these photos taken in the oval office on that day (dozens), Jimmy stands apart from the other four.

http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2009/01/71633/400_5presidents_090107_sloeb_084196902.jpg

when Jimmy says:

Jimmy Carter: The U.S. Is an “Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery” (https://theintercept.com/2015/07/30/jimmy-carter-u-s-oligarchy-unlimited-political-bribery/)

...you better believe it. This is so close to being open fascism that I fail to see the practical difference.

risveglio
10th November 2015, 17:16
I don't trust anything from Veterans Today. Let me guess, Israel did it.

trust in self, go after all things inhuman, go after all things or groups that are against humanity's advancement.

Israel, as it stands, appears to be well within the confines of being against humanity. This, by any measure.

The same for others.

By all means, go after Israel, among the list of other things to be going after.

Israel did it, china did it, the USA did it, the BIS did it, the world bank did it, the bush cartel did it, the CIA did it, the FBI did it, the Rothschilds did it, the Rockefellers did it, the Nazi's (still around today) did it, The Germans did it, the Saudis did it, the Pentagon did it, the Russians did it, black ops corps like Lockheed Martin did it, I.G. Farben did it, Monsanto did it, big pharma did it, the Koch bothers did it, the democratic cartel did it, the neocon cartel did it, big oil did it, the bilderburgs did it, organized crime did it, the church/Vatican did it, almost the entire federal senate and congress and whitehouse of the USA government did it, the entire world of the press and televised news did it, and so on.

All guilty as charged. You can't throw a rock in any direction for any distance, without hitting one of them. The most horrific thing of all, is that this is not some facetious joke of an exaggeration of the current state of affairs.

Seems like finding the innocent and the well intended is more the task.

I don't believe everyone you put on the list above deserves to be on the list but regardless Gordon Duff is not to be trusted and most "veterans" are the problem.

http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/12/01/veterans-todays-gordon-duff-and-his-elite-bio/

Sean
10th November 2015, 17:58
I don't trust anything from Veterans Today. Let me guess, Israel did it.

trust in self, go after all things inhuman, go after all things or groups that are against humanity's advancement.

Israel, as it stands, appears to be well within the confines of being against humanity. This, by any measure.

The same for others.

By all means, go after Israel, among the list of other things to be going after.

Israel did it, china did it, the USA did it, the BIS did it, the world bank did it, the bush cartel did it, the CIA did it, the FBI did it, the Rothschilds did it, the Rockefellers did it, the Nazi's (still around today) did it, The Germans did it, the Saudis did it, the Pentagon did it, the Russians did it, black ops corps like Lockheed Martin did it, I.G. Farben did it, Monsanto did it, big pharma did it, the Koch bothers did it, the democratic cartel did it, the neocon cartel did it, big oil did it, the bilderburgs did it, organized crime did it, the church/Vatican did it, almost the entire federal senate and congress and whitehouse of the USA government did it, the entire world of the press and televised news did it, and so on.

All guilty as charged. You can't throw a rock in any direction for any distance, without hitting one of them. The most horrific thing of all, is that this is not some facetious joke of an exaggeration of the current state of affairs.

Seems like finding the innocent and the well intended is more the task.

I don't believe everyone you put on the list above deserves to be on the list but regardless Gordon Duff is not to be trusted and most "veterans" are the problem.

http://fauxcapitalist.com/2012/12/01/veterans-todays-gordon-duff-and-his-elite-bio/

VT readers know to "read between the lines".

And yeah, like many terrorist attacks in this world..israel did indeed "do it".

Carmody
10th November 2015, 18:17
VT readers know to "read between the lines".
Mod edit: inappropriate comment!

.. .. ..

Seems like finding the innocent and the well intended is more the task.

Sean
10th November 2015, 18:32
VT readers know to "read between the lines".
Mod edit: Inappropriate Comment.!

Personal attacks aren't helpful.

If you can't(or won't) see israel's hand in this event and so many others..I don't know what to tell you :)

risveglio
10th November 2015, 18:40
VT readers know to "read between the lines".
Mod edit: Removed inappropriate comment.

Personal attacks aren't helpful.

If you can't(or won't) see israel's hand in this event and so many others..I don't know what to tell you :)

Whether or not Israel is guilty is besides the point but I know it makes the anti-semites happy (90% of VT readers are anti-semitic) to see them attacked. Fact is Gordon Duff is a hack!

Sean
10th November 2015, 18:54
VT readers know to "read between the lines".
Mod edit: Inappropriate comment.

Personal attacks aren't helpful.

If you can't(or won't) see israel's hand in this event and so many others..I don't know what to tell you :)

Whether or not Israel is guilty is besides the point but I know it makes the anti-semites happy (90% of VT readers are anti-semitic) to see them attacked. Fact is Gordon Duff is a hack!

See, now I'm getting that "troll/shill" feeling from your posts..israel's involvement is EXACTLY the point.

Screaming "anti-semitism" no longer works. People know its a lie and are no longer afraid.

Thanks for outing yourself, though.

risveglio
10th November 2015, 18:57
VT readers know to "read between the lines".
Mod edit: Inappropriate comment.

Personal attacks aren't helpful.

If you can't(or won't) see israel's hand in this event and so many others..I don't know what to tell you :)

Whether or not Israel is guilty is besides the point but I know it makes the anti-semites happy (90% of VT readers are anti-semitic) to see them attacked. Fact is Gordon Duff is a hack!

See, now I'm getting that "troll/shill" feeling from your posts..israel's involvement is EXACTLY the point.

Screaming "anti-semitism" no longer works. People know its a lie and are no longer afraid.

Thanks for outing yourself, though.

Oh please stop with your hatred of an entire race of people. The US government is far more sinister than Israel but you can't hate them become it is not a Jewish nation. Gordon Duff is a hack. He admits to making stuff up. He feeds on the hatred of the Jewish people to get readers to his silly page so he can get more advertisements.

Sean
10th November 2015, 20:22
VT readers know to "read between the lines".

Mod edit: Inappropriate comment.!

Personal attacks aren't helpful.

If you can't(or won't) see israel's hand in this event and so many others..I don't know what to tell you :)

Whether or not Israel is guilty is besides the point but I know it makes the anti-semites happy (90% of VT readers are anti-semitic) to see them attacked. Fact is Gordon Duff is a hack!

See, now I'm getting that "troll/shill" feeling from your posts..israel's involvement is EXACTLY the point.

Screaming "anti-semitism" no longer works. People know its a lie and are no longer afraid.


When you're reduced to hurling insults and slander, you've lost the argument. Duff, unlike the "Shane's" of the world, has a history of giving correct info. But, with you that is beside the point. You just want smear people with false accusations of anti-semitism and toss insults..BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT TO MAKE.

A bit pathetic, to be honest ;)

risveglio
10th November 2015, 20:33
I have no argument to make? The guy admits lying 40% of the time. There is more truth on the onion site than on Veterans today. He has never said one bit of truth. He has ruined the chances of so many good people because they don't stand with his anti-semitic views. You get more honesty out of Sorcha Faal or Paul Krugman. But go ahead, keep reading his fake dribble. I just feel with the enormous amount of gullible people that read this site, someone should call bull**** when they see it.

More on Mr Duff, the dis-info agent.
http://redefininggod.com/2014/10/shady-as-hell-the-veterans-today-rt-presstv-disinformation-conglomerate-part-1-the-amazing-gordon-duff/

idiit
10th November 2015, 20:35
vt is like zerohedge; there are multiple contributing writers. ( there is no tyler durden) :).

some ppl put down anything that's not on msm. some ppl put down anything that's on the internet; even if the same story is in print on msm mags., newspapers.

I've seen pretty strong personal arguments on vt when two opposing perspectives are aired on the same topic.

I want a news source that prints opposing perspectives; informed, intelligent discourse from opposing perspectives is a good thing.

Gordon Duff can't go some places ( articles) without putting his contacts and sometimes even his life in danger. he tells us to use discernment as he has to do some fluff pieces out of necessity.

mountain_jim
11th November 2015, 00:43
At this point anyone who has paid attention does not need to reference or believe Duff or VT to know that the Mossad and likely Nutanyahoo were deeply involved in 9/11, along with their US neocon allies.

Ikarusion
11th November 2015, 09:31
Whether or not Israel is guilty is besides the point but I know it makes the anti-semites happy (90% of VT readers are anti-semitic) to see them attacked. Fact is Gordon Duff is a hack!
you seem to misuse the term anti-semitic, since israelis are arguably the worst anti-semites on the planet.
and looking at your posts im not sure if you misuse it intentionally or not..

idiit
11th November 2015, 15:56
hebrew/jew does not mean Zionist.

Zionist does not mean hebrew/jew.

when ppl hear "jew/hebrew" when the word Zionist is used they themselves can be accused of anti-Semitism.

there are all types of Zionists including Christian Zionists. Zionists are usually luciferians hiding behind the façade of another group of ppl.

if you understand the background of the khazars from the early Ukraine region they were forced by Russia to convert or die. most chose to hide behind the hebrew religion. Israel is full of khazarian Zionists with no ancestral ties to the original Judaic tribes. the palestinians actually have more original genetic heritage than the Israeli citizens according to the john's Hopkins genetic mapping results.


Johns Hopkins and Israeli geneticist debunks the Jews are a single race

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/johns-hopkins-and-israeli-geneticist-debunks-the-jews-are-a-single-race.113822/



Johns Hopkins Genome Study of Jewish Origins


By GPD on February 3, 2013

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/03/johns-hopkins-genome-study-of-jewish-origins/


the Zionists are the world's greatest anti-semites and call anyone who questions their lie anti-Semite; diabolically Zionist behavior in action.

risveglio
11th November 2015, 16:42
I'm not defending Israel or zionist, I am just mentioning that Duff is a hack. Stalin despised Hitler, that doesn't make Stalin a good guy.

Sean
11th November 2015, 19:21
I'm not defending Israel or zionist, I am just mentioning that Duff is a hack. Stalin despised Hitler, that doesn't make Stalin a good guy.

You didn't "just" call Gordon a hack. You slandered me with a false accusation of anti-semitism, and called me and all VT readers "morons".

there's a moron in this thread..but it isn't me, PAL.

Oh yeah..here's a follow-up article from Gordon..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/11/381067/

Jake
11th November 2015, 20:07
Once upon a time, I got caught up in a discussion-turned-argument over Gordon Duff. I continue to be 'miffed' over the 40 percent disinfo admission. One important comment that stands out to me in this conversation is that VT readers can read between the lines... I didn't like it, but I had to respect that! Even trust it. It is not up to me to decide for someone else if they can discern better/sharper than me... And i certainly would never have tried to justify referring to VT readers as gullible morons... Thats quite a broad stroke, and a bit out of line,,, methinks... If it is actually the case where you think it is helpful, let me just say that it is not.

Please lets refocus... :) Back to topic...

Jake

risveglio
11th November 2015, 20:25
I'm not defending Israel or zionist, I am just mentioning that Duff is a hack. Stalin despised Hitler, that doesn't make Stalin a good guy.

You didn't "just" call Gordon a hack. You slandered me with a false accusation of anti-semitism, and called me and all VT readers "morons".

there's a moron in this thread..but it isn't me, PAL.

Oh yeah..here's a follow-up article from Gordon..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/11/381067/

NOw the Russian plan that ISIS is screaming credit for was also Israel. Is there a reliable source for this piece of news?

Tomorrow's BREAKING NEWS on VT.

1. Israel created Hitler
2. The Great Flood was done by Israel
3. The Attack of Pearl Harbor was really Israel
4. Netanyahoo is the Anti-Christ
5. Super Storm Sandy? Yes, you guessed it. Done by Israel

I think gullible was too kind of a word.

Tangri
11th November 2015, 20:50
Whether or not Israel is guilty is besides the point but I know it makes the anti-semites happy (90% of VT readers are anti-semitic) to see them attacked. Fact is Gordon Duff is a hack!
you seem to misuse the term anti-semitic, since israelis are arguably the worst anti-semites on the planet.
and looking at your posts im not sure if you misuse it intentionally or not..

Thank you, I was going to write like this post.

There are 700 millions of Jews lives in Earth and Israel government do not represent them even it claims so. Criticizing Israel government doesn't deserve anti- Semitic labeling as much as criticizing ISIS goes to anti-Islamic labeling.

Most problem and wrong doings done by governmental bodies since their members(member of Parliament) comes and be supported by financial resources.

A handful of evil people do devil's work but unfortunately bulk of people suffer because of that. If we recognize these acts and put it to the light maybe we can help to inhibit it.

My humble hope, stay alive if "we should not let the naivety turns to ignorance."

Thank you Idiit, for below well caught truth.

" to the original Judaic tribes. the palestinians actually have more original genetic heritage than the Israeli citizens according to the john's Hopkins genetic mapping results.

Akasha
11th November 2015, 21:02
.....NOw the Russian plan that ISIS is screaming credit for was also Israel. Is there a reliable source for this piece of news?.....

ISIS can scream all they want but it was Israel that just happened to be engaged in their largest air exercise ever when the plane went down. The exercise was based at Ovda Airbase. That's the closest IAF base to the Sinai.

('Reliable') source - Times of Israel (http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-hosts-its-largest-ever-international-air-force-exercise/)

Make of that what you will.

risveglio
11th November 2015, 21:14
.....NOw the Russian plan that ISIS is screaming credit for was also Israel. Is there a reliable source for this piece of news?.....

ISIS can scream all they want but it was Israel that just happened to be engaged in their largest air exercise ever when the plane went down. The exercise was based at Ovda Airbase. That's the closest IAF base to the Sinai.

('Reliable') source - Times of Israel (http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-hosts-its-largest-ever-international-air-force-exercise/)

Make of that what you will.

I don't know if the Times of Israel is another onion site like VT but nowhere in this article does it say that they attacked a Russian plane in Egypt.

Akasha
11th November 2015, 22:12
.....NOw the Russian plan that ISIS is screaming credit for was also Israel. Is there a reliable source for this piece of news?.....

ISIS can scream all they want but it was Israel that just happened to be engaged in their largest air exercise ever when the plane went down. The exercise was based at Ovda Airbase. That's the closest IAF base to the Sinai.

('Reliable') source - Times of Israel (http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-hosts-its-largest-ever-international-air-force-exercise/)

Make of that what you will.

I don't know if the Times of Israel is another onion site like VT but nowhere in this article does it say that they attacked a Russian plane in Egypt.

From Wiki':


.....The Times of Israel was launched in February 2012. Its founder and editor is David Horovitz, formerly of The Jerusalem Post and The Jerusalem Report, a veteran journalist who had covered the Middle East and the Arab–Israeli peace process for thirty years.[3][4] It receives financial support from Boston-based Seth Klarman, founder of Baupost Group and chairman of The David Project, who has said he is opposed to Israel's settlement movement.[5] Several Times editors had previously worked for Haaretz. Haaretz English Edition editors Joshua Davidovich, Raphael Ahren, and Yoel Goldman joined The Times as news editors,[6] and Haaretz Arab affairs correspondent Avi Isaacharoff joined as Middle East analyst.....here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times_of_Israel)

So it certainly seems as if, at least according to Wiki', it's a serious news publication.

I appreciate that The Times of Israel have not connected any dots between the air exercise and the crashed jet. I'm merely highlighting that once again we have a serious incident suspiciously coinciding with yet another military exercise.

idiit
12th November 2015, 09:21
Thank you Idiit, for below well caught truth.


cool. it was a vt article that pointed that out and then several subsequent articles on vt that elaborated.


The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia (Updated)
By Preston James, Ph.D on March 8, 201
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/


The Khazarian Mafia (Part II) Updated
By Preston James, Ph.D on April 25, 2015
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/25/the-khazarian-mafia-part-ii/

^ the introductory basics.

more info after one reads the part1 and part 2 basics linked above:


The Khazarian Mafia’s Globalist NWO Agenda to destroy every nation’s sovereignty

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/02/the-khazarian-mafias-globalist-nwo-agenda-to-destroy-every-nations-sovereignty/


America, Khazarian Mafia Vassal State and Israeli occupied territory (Updated)
By Preston James, Ph.D on April 14, 2015
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/14/america-khazarian-mafia-vassal-state-and-israeli-occupied-territory/


Who Sold Iran to the “Khazarian Mafia” in 1872?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/12/who-sold-iran-to-the-khazarian-mafia-in-1872/

^ these are great reads. just give one a wittle taste and see for yourself. :)

idiit
12th November 2015, 09:27
.veteranstoday.com/staff-writers/


EDITORIAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS
The Board is responsible for all content on VT and participates in all major decisions regarding content, columnists, and editorial direction for VT

Gordon Duff– Chairman, U.S. Marines, Vietnam, Managing Director, Adamus Defense Group, Switzerland
Jim W. Dean– Managing Editor, Military Order of World Wars, Association for Intelligence Officers, Senior Vice President, Adamus Defense Group, Switzerland
Dr. Kevin Barrett, Specialist in Islamic Studies, Educator, Radio Host, Investigative Journalist
Dr. Preston James – Social psychologist, historian, political analyst
Lt. General Hamid Gul – Director General ISI (Former Chief of Intelligence Services, Pakistan)
Col. Eugene Khrushchev – Former Soviet/Russian Airborne commander, Afghanistan, Chief of Planning, Intelligence and Psychological Warfare, former First Secretary, Soviet and Russian Embassies, Kabul, Afghanistan, Director of Strategic Planning, Adamus Defense Group, Switzerland
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KiwiElf
12th November 2015, 11:07
We all, to some degree, tell the "truth" as we know it,... that doesn't necessarily make it "the truth", or someone else's "truth" (or make us liars either), :)

idiit
12th November 2015, 11:14
We all, to some degree, tell the "truth" as we know it

I seriously suspect paid shills post disinfo and ad hominem attacks on almost all popular web sites including forums.

I came to this conclusion on my own. here are some posts affirming my personal conclusions.

http://wakeup-world.com/2012/10/03/pay-for-comments-confessions-of-a-paid-disinformation-internet-shill/

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=64853

http://www.goldismoney2.com/showthread.php?51932-Paid-internet-shills-do-exist-and-are-apparently-common

Bill Ryan
13th November 2015, 15:26
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I just wanted to add this, re risveglio, who was temporarily unsubscribed for a month for wrecking this thread (now fixed up, we think) with unacceptable and inappropriate ad hominem attacks. To allow him his due, he wrote to the staff by e-mail, after being informed of his ban:





That is fine but Duff has done some really horrible things which should be brought to light but for some reason Avalon loves him.

He then added in a PS:





Sorry, I called him by the wrong name, Bob Foote is a paid shill.

http://ronaldwederfoort.wordpress.com/2015/05/12/gordon-duffs-real-name-is-bob-foote-veterans-today-is-an-fbi-cointel-operation-according-to-stew-webb

You mark onion sites (satire), you warn people about BeforeItsNews articles and Sacha but Bob is guarded? Why?


I replied, and maybe this should be on record:






Dear risveglio : many thanks. This is Bill here.

I'm pretty sure you're right about Gordon Duff. But the problem was the way you were communicating with other members on the thread. There's plenty of evidence that Gordon Duff is not who he says he is, including clear on-record statements from ex-VT colleagues who used to work with him. But calling out, demeaning, and insulting other well-intended Avalon members, who may very well not have the same information in hand that you do, isn't the way to make an argument or persuade people to your point of view.

With all best wishes ~ Bill


:focus:

idiit
13th November 2015, 15:31
I really like jim fetzer's posts (former contributing writer for vt) and fetzer has really gone out and called Gordon duff unreliable, disinfo, scam, fraud, etc....

I just sit back and take it all in. :)

taking it all in does not mean "believe".

idiit
17th November 2015, 10:41
Putin Confirms Egypt Plane Crash Due To Bomb Explosion


And in a parallel development, of which there will soon be many more, Independent reported that Egyptian security forces shot dead 24 Isis militants in central Sinai, 70 km from the crash site of the Russian passenger plane the group claimed it brought down, security sources have said.

Security sources said they killed the militants as they hid inside a cave in a mountainous area and that they arrested eight of them.

Sinai Province, Isis's Egypt branch, is active in North Sinai where two years ago it launched an insurgency and has since killed hundreds of soldiers and policemen. It is rarely active outside that area.
Assuming there were higher powers behind the Russian plane bombing than just a bunch of cave-dwelling a la carte terrorists, those arrested may just be tempted enough by the $50 million award to reveal who the mastermind behind this particular terrorist attack was.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-17/putin-confirms-egypt-plane-crash-due-bomb-explosion-offers-50-million-reward-info-te

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 11:16
The timing is very suspicious a day after a little chat with Barack at the G 20.
It is possible to look at Russia and Putins actions over Syria as part of the PTB
geo - political plan that ' Power Blocks ' as in Orwells 'Big Bros'. So corporate
control can be maintained via competing military and other industrial complex.
Its easier to keep control and keep the global NWO that has developed over
the past century and is planed for the future if the reigns of power stay in the
hands of the few not the many. There are political elites in all countries including
Russia and China.

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A321 jet crash in Sinai was terrorist act - Putin

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Published on 17 Nov 2015


The Russian plane crash in Sinai, Egypt, was caused by a terrorist attack as traces
of explosives have been found in the wreckage of the plane, Federal Security Service
director Aleksandr Bortnikov told President Vladimir Putin.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wrd

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Putin & Obama hold talks on G20 sidelines

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Published on 15 Nov 2015


Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Barack Obama have held talks
on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Antalya, Turkey - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/6wlz