A real moron ( * caution: disturbing video * )

[Bubu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fffMIFLFhcc

not the mother but the man/ men who did not bother to help. shows how sick the society is. But then again we gotta do what needs to

[Bubu]

Now the good news.
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http://www.360nobs.com/2015/11/stray-dog-stuns-the-arab-world-by-miraculously-rescuing-an-abandoned-newborn-baby-graphic-content/

[Orph]

Not sure I care to watch *disturbing videos*. Would you care to elaborate a little as to what these videos are about?

[Awakening2014]

The video shows a mother walking out of a subway car as her small daughters follows behind. The little girl falls between the platform and subway car. The mother rushes to get her out, while a man steps over them both to get on the train. As she pulls the little girl to safety, another man steps over them to get out of the train. One man at the end, after the child has been pulled to safety runs over to help. I think it is more disturbing in the context that these men didn't help. There is nothing gruesome and the little girl doesn't look hurt.

[MorningFox]

It's not really that disturbing. The child falls down under the train but is safely rescued.

The guy that walks over them, onto the train, without helping though.... utterly unbelievable.

[drgreig]

Not much different from the parable of the Good Samaritan...the idea of people without compassion that will simply pass you by in your time of need goes back a long time. We would be more-so shocked nowadays, of course, as we feel we have "progressed" as a society...

There has been no better way to know "who is your neighbour" than this...

[Apophenia]

not the mother but the man/ men who did not bother to help. shows how sick the society is. But then again we gotta do what needs to

Well I wont argue the point about the guy who steps over her, people are too self-absorbed these days and don't give much thought to the world around them...

Speaking of which, the mother does give the impression of being off with the fairies herself, the child wasn't actually watching where it was stepping and almost seems as if the child just gave up and went under after the first leg went down. Certainly conceivable this may be the kids first experience of a train station, and perhaps she was encumbered by the objects she was carrying; I can't tell what it is even after repeating the first several seconds of the video. Maybe the mother should hold her hand and/or make her carry something lighter next time.

Parents aren't exactly pillars of mindfulness at the best of times, and in this case the mother is lucky that the train wasn't about to take off right after they exited. Acting only when the circumstances become dire isn't exactly an uncommon mindset these days, sadly.

That said, the title gave the impression this was going to be graphic, when it wasn't, thankfully.

[Sophocles]

The bystander effect, maybe?

Philip Zimbardo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Zimbardo), also known for his Stanford Prison Experiment (1971), talks about the bystander effect:

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[Bubu]

It's not really that disturbing. The child falls down under the train but is safely rescued.

The guy that walks over them, onto the train, without helping though.... utterly unbelievable.

yes to that. that is actually what makes the video disturbing that such people walk among us. Imagine what they can do to friends workmates...?? but then again we need to accept things first as they are and from there try to change for the better

[Michelle]

Don't get me started. I've seen this a hundred times. I actually had an incident myself where I gave blood because I'm RH AB-. I know people need it cause it's rare. I was on the bus when I collapsed after I left the blood bank. People walked over me. Nobody helped. I crawled off the bus onto a median in the street where I curled up in a ball and waiting till I could drag myself down the block to my house. Some peoe actually made fun of me.

I was a medic and I've seen people do just awful things. One girl got caught up under the muni bus and was screaming. We were working to get her out. What did the bystanders do? Take pictures and video. Poor girl screamed for them to stop. They didn't. Also on another occasion a homeless person jumped in front of my ambulance. She said a woman collapsed. That's fine and all, homeless people take care of each other, but people at the bus stop (and there were at least 25) proceed to tell me this poor homeless woman had been staggering around for the last 20 minutes falling into things trying to hold herself up. I just screamed at the crowd. I'm like this is a human being. Not one of you people thought to call for help or help her? What the f*** is wrong with you. I worked on her for a long time. My partner told me to stop. She's gone. I kept thinking if only I got there sooner.

I know this is a tangent. Im sorry. I'm venting a bit. I've seen people do good things out there. This video just reminded me of some incidences where people's behavior just shocked me I guess.

[Jantje]

There are people out there that do care still. Be the change you wish to see around you !

[Flash]

There are people out there that do care still. Be the change you wish to see around you !

this is very culturally biaised, helping or not, following the group or not. In some cultures, helping others is ingrained and pushed in since early childhood. So these people will help, this becomes a group thinking.

In America and Europe it seems, we went to a culture where we teach our children to mind their own business, not get into trouble, protect themselves, and we exclude the help factor in their education.

So we get the society we deserve it seems.

Anecdotal evidence: I lived in Turkey for a few years. There is lots of tea gardens all over, where neighbouroods meet at night to play baggamon, drink teas or pops, chat, etc. Most people sit in family groups, not all groups know each other.

One day, I see all the men selling pops and tea getting behind their counters and taking their bats and running with it. I asked "what is going on?" The answer: they heard a woman screaming and they are going to defend her.

i was amazed, in North American cities, people will run the other way usually - nobody defends anybody it seems.

A Muslim country, albeit secular, where women are dress like any European woman, where man as a group take their bats to go defend a woman - wow!!!!

It is engrained in their children education over there. Starting at 3 years old, you start helping the youngers, otherwise you will hear from your mom and it won't be pleasant. The drawback: mom may have some nasty public comments if she does not raise her kid within the cultural frameworks - they do mix into your things sometimes - ex: my daughter making a fit at the shopping center, me letting her there not paying attention so that she will stop and being criticized for not picking her up, they picked her up for me (gosh could not give the lesson to the daughter).

So yes, some Muslims have lessons to give us.

[happyuk]

It was disgraceful of the man not to help, if that was the case. Did he run on to the train to summon help or pull an emergency cord perhaps?

I am a little angered by the woman for walking in front of the girl and not paying attention. Replace the gap she fell into with an abductor and she would have been none the wiser. I once saw a little girl become suddenly lost in a crowd while the adults she was with were busy fuss-arsing. She became very frightened and tears instantly rolled down her cheeks. I re-united her, but gave them a piece of my mind as well. My blunt assault on their egos was not well received, but I was so annoyed I didn't care. A dead person does not offend me, but an absent-minded one certainly does!

[regnak]

In China a women was committing suicide by jumping off a wall another woman ran to her aid and caught her saved her life and many other people came to help . The funny part is that the women who was committing suicide sued the woman who saved her life because she hurt her shoulder. Women are illogical at best but that was just nuts .

No matter how much you do for someone best to look after yourself I would have saved the child but carefully safely :shielddeflect:

[Flash]

Gosh!!! Chinese must have been contaminated by the American spirit, while manufacturing Walmart goods, all they can sue around they now do!!! shish, what a disappointment :shielddeflect: :p ;)


In China a women was committing suicide by jumping off a wall another woman ran to her aid and caught her saved her life and many other people came to help . The funny part is that the women who was committing suicide sued the woman who saved her life because she hurt her shoulder. Women are illogical at best but that was just nuts .

No matter how much you do for someone best to look after yourself I would have saved the child but carefully safely :shielddeflect:

Bof! It all dépends on the men around who did not help, I bet. Either they would not have dislodge her shoulder or she would have liked it lollllllllllll

[Zionbrion]

There is also good people in this world!
WAQ_px-UBqs

[regnak]

zionbrion 10/10 truly great :sun::star::clapping::highfive:

[Zillah]

Hey all - if you click on "watch full version narrated" it actually describes the situation in full detail. What appears to be a terrible man, is actually the reason the girl was saved. The man with the backpack actually alerted the mother, and then ran into the train to press the emergency button and then warned the driver of what happened. Just goes to show when we only watch extracted bits of something, a whole world of misunderstanding can follow. The jerk is actually the hero.

[meeradas]

Hey all - if you click on "watch full version narrated" it actually describes the situation in full detail. What appears to be a terrible man, is actually the reason the girl was saved. The man with the backpack actually alerted the mother, and then ran into the train to press the emergency button and then warned the driver of what happened. Just goes to show when we only watch extracted bits of something, a whole world of misunderstanding can follow. The jerk is actually the hero.

And this was probably the most important post on this thread.

Thanks, Zillah [and welcome back]!

[Flash]

Hey all - if you click on "watch full version narrated" it actually describes the situation in full detail. What appears to be a terrible man, is actually the reason the girl was saved. The man with the backpack actually alerted the mother, and then ran into the train to press the emergency button and then warned the driver of what happened. Just goes to show when we only watch extracted bits of something, a whole world of misunderstanding can follow. The jerk is actually the hero.

It shows how much we can misjudge, by judging - until we know the whole truth for certain. Meeradas is right, this is the most important post of the thread.

[Pam]

Hey all - if you click on "watch full version narrated" it actually describes the situation in full detail. What appears to be a terrible man, is actually the reason the girl was saved. The man with the backpack actually alerted the mother, and then ran into the train to press the emergency button and then warned the driver of what happened. Just goes to show when we only watch extracted bits of something, a whole world of misunderstanding can follow. The jerk is actually the hero.


He was not only the hero, but a very wise one at that!!!! I would love to able to think so clearly in an emergency situation.

It really is interesting how quick we are to judge with only our emotions leading the way!

[Frenchy]

Hey all - if you click on "The man with the backpack actually alerted the mother, and then ran into the train to press the emergency button and then warned the driver of what happened. .
And this was probably the most important post on this thread.
!

Thank you, I'm glad I read down before I posted the same observations as you....

This Guy, thought logically, just as one should do in every situation, Cut-off the power, stop the traffic, run back a hundred yards for the life-belt..... Not easy to stay cool, like this hero did......

[TargeT]

The bystander effect, maybe?

Philip Zimbardo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Zimbardo), also known for his Stanford Prison Experiment (1971), talks about the bystander effect:

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Jeebus, I'd like to think this is an English phenomenon.. since those folk are very standoffish as a culture.. (But I'm probably wrong)

It would be interesting to reproduce this test in other cultures.. I would GUARANTEE (well almost...) that this would not work here where I am; the culture is the complete opposite of Brittan, it's considered very impolite to NOT acknowledge everyone you pass with a "good day" or "good night" (yeah, that one got me for a while, good night sounds like your going to bed to my american cultured ears.. haha)

But I may be wrong..

I've just lost a bit of faith in humanity there...

[DeDukshyn]

Hey all - if you click on "watch full version narrated" it actually describes the situation in full detail. What appears to be a terrible man, is actually the reason the girl was saved. The man with the backpack actually alerted the mother, and then ran into the train to press the emergency button and then warned the driver of what happened. Just goes to show when we only watch extracted bits of something, a whole world of misunderstanding can follow. The jerk is actually the hero.

That is what I was initially thinking, the guy didn't look indifferent to the situation to me; and indifference would be present if the guy saw it and just callously got on. There was a sense of urgency in his movements.


Thanks for the share. :)

[BMJ]

Upsetting yes but you get good and bad everywhere and I do not think it indicates a trend.

[MorningFox]

Hey all - if you click on "watch full version narrated" it actually describes the situation in full detail. What appears to be a terrible man, is actually the reason the girl was saved. The man with the backpack actually alerted the mother, and then ran into the train to press the emergency button and then warned the driver of what happened. Just goes to show when we only watch extracted bits of something, a whole world of misunderstanding can follow. The jerk is actually the hero.

Very true! I, like others, was too quick to judge.

:)