The illusion of timelessness

[Violet]

Some things that people adhere to: values, beliefs, ideas, etc are not as timeless as its adherents believe it to be.

"We do as our predecessors have done. We have not changed a thing, for we are loyal followers."

But something does change over time, it's inevitable, and it's very subtle. The very people that resist the change, change along with the change, never waking up to the realization that they have become frontmen and women of something deviating them from what they held as timeless.

Yet they'll never say their values have changed. They have always been like that, some things are timeless, they say.

[moekatz]

Good reminder for all of us. The very act of adhering to a belief seems, at the time, to be the truth. After all, we are usually not alone in a belief and it feels good to be aligned with others who have discovered the same belief. I like to remind myself that "birds of a feather flock together." By saying this cliche' to myself every time I find a new belief, it forces me to look around and observe the others who are in my flock. I tend to give myself a break these days and laugh about beliefs.
Over a lifetime, so many birds and beliefs! What say you?

[zen deik]

Beliefs can be guestioned, however truth's are timeless....

[earthdreamer]

I found a concept put forth by "Seth" that I read many years ago to be interesting where : 'we are less a product of our time in history than of the belief system we are born into'.
I imagine that wherever free thinking can leak through the cracks of tightly bound tradition, evolution naturally occurs. Challenging one's inherited beliefs seems a natural process of maturity, we laugh at the ideas we held dear as young people. Yet our core stays the same. Some of my memories of my 'core self' as a youth feel better realized than as an adult though, I mean there were good friendships and ethical concerns that were already evolved perhaps. I was smarter and dumber. I had to gain confidence in my intuitive self to abandon social dogmas, to become more aware of my individual nature, further and further from the family unit. Consensual reality becomes more evident as a screen, as the medium for participation, the scenery and sets of the current play on stage and one has more freedom to choose your role (actor, director, designer, production assistant, audience member, no part being insignificant). The game may go from questioning social beliefs to the very ideas that construct reality, like going from being an anthropologist to a physicist, from the concrete to the abstract, a philosopher's pursuit. No guarantees for happiness. Beliefs may be as natural for human nature as carbon encrusts the crystal.

(does this thread inspire rambling?, it did to my mind. cheers!)