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The One
30th November 2010, 12:03
We can read a book without saying a word. We can also have a conversation with ourselves without anybody realising what we are doing.

Imagine when we talk to ourselves we can then forward that onto anyone

If it exists telepathy and this is my opinion, the transmission would not be in terms of a neural code. It would be something else, so far totally unknown to science. We probably don't even have the categories yet to think about it, if it's real

Opinions well appreciated

Are You Thinking What I'm Thinking

BMJ
30th November 2010, 12:45
I have had this happen sporadically threw out my life, the person or animal speaks very clearly as if you two were alone in a room without any background noise what so ever. In my case in english. You can have a laugh if you like but I have spoken to my pets, (and i have taken my medication today). Just take the piss out myself before someone else decides to.

Orion.V
30th November 2010, 13:28
Just a quick thought and a question.
Did you ever had an experience to simply know what the other person near you is thinking, or you thinking the exact thing with someone else regardless of the verbal conversation ?
Have you ever got a sudden thought flash that someone you know is going to call your phone and at your surprise a moment later the phone rings and it's the person you visualized, knowing that you were not expecting any call from that person whatsoever ?

Intuition ? A small sudden spark of telepathy ? Do you think that if the humanity becomes more aware in near future about our human potential, this telepathic ability will enhance as a part of a conscious shift and devoting your attention to these areas of life ?

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I have had this happen sporadically threw out my life, the person or animal speaks very clearly as if you two were alone in a room without any background noise what so ever. In my case in english. You can have a laugh if you like but I have spoken to my pets, (and i have taken my medication today). Just take the piss out myself before someone else decides to.

Well i am no telepathic, but I've had many intuitive and telepathic sudden "sparks" in my life.
I personally think any form of telepathic communication does not use verbal level but rather image, intent and emotion and just under this level the brain automatically interprets it as words.

Dale
30th November 2010, 13:47
I've come across many interesting reports concerning telepathy, or similar psychological phenomena; certainly enough to convince me that telepathic communication already exists.

Now, that's not to say we're all professional telepaths at heart. It seems the phenomena is quite similar to riding a unicycle. Sometimes, due to odd chance, you're able to hop on the darn thing and peddle down the driveway; but mostly, you fall straight down simply trying to get on it. However, if you practice every day, there's a good chance that, in time, you won't fall down as much!

xeon
30th November 2010, 13:52
Here's an exercise that I have heard before, that may improve telepathic connection. You need a quartz crystal and a partner.

Hook up with your partner using the crystal placed on both yours and your partner's third eye area, sort of like a telephone line, and hold it there. The crystal forms a physical bridge between you and your partner's minds.

Enter a calm state of mind, empty your minds, and then think of a color repeatedly, and then ask your partner what impressions he/she managed to pick up in their mind's eye.

Carmody
30th November 2010, 14:25
Increase the distance. Use two crystal shards cut from the same stone, two pieces that are adjacent to one another when the stone was broken. They have the same molecular structure, the two pieces formed together and are actually a broken up singularity.

Another method (I heard of) was to make a tattoo on the skin made up of letters of the alphabet. On two different people. Then do the yucky thing.... and put the skin of one with the letters on it...on the other person. When the skin is pricked in a pattern on one (in the letter area) the other will feel it. And messages can be passed back and forth.

I think I'll stick to the attempt with the crystal....

conk
30th November 2010, 15:50
Groups of hunters, animal and human, have displayed use of telepathy. The hunters move in, hide, whatever, in concert without benefit of sight or signal.

Rocky_Shorz
30th November 2010, 17:53
adrenalin rushes increase all 6 senses... Combination of fear and confidence...

snap of a twig from 1/2 mile...
movement in the corner of your eye

the team spreads out silently without a word, all knowing what the others thoughts and actions will be as the battle begin...

Peace of Mind
30th November 2010, 17:54
It shouldn't be long. I can move small objects, like a piece of paper, a spec of dust or a dried up leaf. But it's very exhuasting, when I link my energy and intent to the objects, it drains me. I need to practice more with the focus part...its a task to get the images of me failing to move the objects out of my head. Just when I start to feel weak and give up; the object moves and leaves me a little dizzy, cool non the less.

Reading minds can be done by anyone, now. The eyes are the windows to the soul and the more you're in tune with the soul the better. Practice and intent is crucial when dealing with these attributes of the mind. If some of these 2012 predictions are true (like DNA activation) I can see everyone doing this with little to no problem. If we are moving in to a lighter density, and everything is speeding up, and vibrating faster....then our thoughts should meet very little resistance, our manifestation should be swifter. We just need to have the right/positive/non-harmful mind set to get what we want, when we want it. The sad part is the manisfestions (in these times) are faster, and people are kept in fear, so they're creating a reality they having giving much thought to, and are non the wiser. Back in the day you had much more time to reflect before reacting...not the case anymore...just look around. being mindful is very important.

Peace

Carmody
30th November 2010, 18:00
My last two dogs had neither collar or leash. Most connection and communications with them were psychic. We went out on dream walks together, many a time.

Well, ok. Both had harnesses when in public, as they were cross breed work dogs (spitz) that had wolf in them. The first one Timberwolf mix and the second Grey wolf mix. I always get the hardcases that on-one else can handle. They would hunt other dogs, In a serious and real way, when they saw them. Scared the crap out of cats and small dogs. Actual mobile food, to my pups.

Kulapops
30th November 2010, 18:53
Thanks for the crystal idea. I'd like to try that out !

I've known people who could read my mind relatively easily . Yeah... it's just cotton wool mostly... Having said that , I'm not so good at telepathy, seem to project better than read. When it most works for me is if I have a creative or funny thought. Yes, not often, you'll agree. ;) BUt when that happens, the other person picks that up almost instantly.

I agree that the world is changing, and maybe in a short period, more and more people will notice they can do this. I look forward to be able to be able to see into people's mind, and share mine... then truth will be a constant, and dishonesty redundant.

What a world that would be !

Carmody
30th November 2010, 19:02
Well, you better be ready to have your psychological pants down around your ankles, as there are no secrets in that level of existence. I mean none, for the larger part. It ends up being the same for everyone, so it's no big deal.

Then, as there are no secrets in subsequent generations, one major aspect of individuality and learning on that level (individual experience -in some important ways) is removed from man.

So.......... if this is supposed to be a place for souls to learn lessons, full clarity and communication removes the larger part of that aspect.

Quandary.

Which is desirable, which is true?

morguana
30th November 2010, 19:57
Telepathy is a gift and a ball and chain, it can be make going to places with lots of people torture, even when trying to block as that takes energy. Orian was pretty on the mark......

I personally think any form of telepathic communication does not use verbal level but rather image, intent and emotion and just under this level the brain automatically interprets it as words.
Sometimes though the words don't come which makes it virtually impossible to then explain to someone just what it is one has picked up. It's like trying to explain to a person blind from birth what sight is.
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shadowstalker
30th November 2010, 20:03
My son and i used telepathy till her was 9, it was awesome, but once he truly learned to talk(as a two yr shot left him literally speechless)he never shut up, once he found his voice he told me more then I had expected, like some of his past lives, he is an indigo child on top of all that.

Rocky_Shorz
30th November 2010, 20:51
when my son had first learned to crawl, I only had to think about pushing the tape in and he would crawl over and do it...

I've been using telepathy my whole life, when I was teaching someone skiing, I could send and image to them on what I wanted them to do and after seeing it, became easy. I could teach people to ski under complete control in 1 run down the hill...

I'm looking forward to the day when everyone lights up...

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Lawyers are going to get hurt when the judge knows every time they are trying to lie... which is about every time they open their mouths... ;)

morguana
30th November 2010, 20:55
hehe rocky,
Lawyers are going to get hurt when the judge knows every time they are trying to lie... which is about every time they open their mouths...
for all to be telepathic would mean no secrets at all, even little thoughts unless everyone learns to block at will, but hay would be an interesting time to live in. wow buddhas words 'master your thoughts' has a whole new meaning ;)
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Teakai
30th November 2010, 21:32
I wonder if telepathy may have something to do with the outer environment.
I was reading in parts of Hindu literature about when there was a time that men could fly by themsleves - and I wonder if the physical positioning of the earth has everything to do with it. As the earth physically completes one cycle and begins the next - a returning 'golden age', the atmosphere and environmental laws and maybe gravitation pull alters greatly.

Teakai
30th November 2010, 21:40
hehe rocky,
for all to be telepathic would mean no secrets at all, even little thoughts unless everyone learns to block at will, but hay would be an interesting time to live in. wow buddhas words 'master your thoughts' has a whole new meaning ;)
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Just imagine the change that would make to humanity, Morguana. We would all be one mind.
No one could be lonely.
You could not hurt another.
You could not have secrets.
There would be no lawyers as there wouldn't be a need.

The world would be completely and utterly different.

Rocky_Shorz
30th November 2010, 22:00
well there is another side of it...

most of us have censoring, when we are in a fight what we want to say and what is said is two different things...

imagine dealing with a PMSign loved one...

you say... aww can I make you some tea?
she hears... OMG she's a crazy frigg'n beeoch, maybe if I give her some tea it will keep her mouth too busy to talk...

next thing you know you have a shoe spinning at your head...

it does take a lot of learning...

lightblue
30th November 2010, 22:14
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that's the point..lying is redundant.. :) l

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Beth
30th November 2010, 23:07
well there is another side of it...

most of us have censoring, when we are in a fight what we want to say and what is said is two different things...

imagine dealing with a PMSign loved one...

you say... aww can I make you some tea?
she hears... OMG she's a crazy frigg'n beeoch, maybe if I give her some tea it will keep her mouth too busy to talk...

next thing you know you have a shoe spinning at your head...

it does take a lot of learning...

And there's a good chance men wouldn't like what the woman is thinking while she's PMSing, you'd probably run instead of sticking around to make a cup of tea. :P

Ross
30th November 2010, 23:23
And there's a good chance men wouldn't like what the woman is thinking while she's PMSing, you'd probably run instead of sticking around to make a cup of tea. :P

reminds me of this:

would you like a hug dear? "NO, leave me alone"... I say "ok, shall I give you some space and il pop out for a while"? she replied "OH thats a good one...go on then, leave me"

:loco:


I often remember that one...I told a friend of mine and he said "well, its the old saying, you cant live with em, and you cant live with em"...that made me laugh!

Sorry...dont mean to be too cheeky:fish:

BMJ
30th November 2010, 23:29
Well i am no telepathic, but I've had many intuitive and telepathic sudden "sparks" in my life.
I personally think any form of telepathic communication does not use verbal level but rather image, intent and emotion and just under this level the brain automatically interprets it as words.

I understand your thoughts on this, but this has been my experience. I also have developed, I suppose a sort of telepathic connection to close friends and family, for example if someone is thinking of me I hiccup, or I know when a close friend of family member is about to call me, I have an urge to call them at that time. Also I can here in my mind when my best friend is thinking to call out for me.

Samurai
1st December 2010, 00:07
I think there is some confusion with telepathy, and i think many people are doing it all the time on cirtain levels without actually realising it.

Empathy or empathic experiences are in my opinion, telepahy on a cirtain level.

I have had many experiences with pure telepathy at different times in my life and under varying circumstances, some of which can and will be dismissed as halucination, however the shared experience was there, so as far as I am concerned the experiences have been genuine none the less. I will explain further in the course of my posting.

Empathy however is a different kettle of fish.

We all go through life as empathic beings, i am pretty cirtain that most people if not all can 'feel' what it is another is feeling, wether this is from looking at them, feeling the 'vibe' in the atmosphere, or simply being able to put yourself in thier shoes from subconcious signals we maybe might not understand. The key to developing this ability i belive, is to be aware of your own emotions, i am sure now that i think about it that the language of emotion is a universal one, we are able to record this emotion in music, art, film, words, images, therefore it has to be universal.
by understanding your own emotions, and being able to notice them as you experience them, is the secret to understanding others emotions as you percieve them.
by looking within, and at what it is you are feeling, wether in meditation or just on a regular 'when i remember' basis, and making the correct correlations to your thoughts and feelings surrounding these emotions, will equip you with the constantly growing understanding of others, an on-going and lifelong work.
in short, its feeling the feeling and reconising that feeling for an emotion, and understanding the process within yourself behind that emotion.

I think that many people try to transmit emotion, or words to another person in an attempt at telepathic communication, and end up garbling what it is they are trying to communicate with an excess of intent.

learn to feel and understand yourself first and be receptive to the emotion surrounding you in the atmosphere, be open, not thrusting and directional.

in traditional spiritualism for want of a better word, people would be described as clarvoyant - see images, clairaudiant - hear things, or clairsentient - feel things.
individuals may show ability in all, either, or any combination, each 'skill' is something that can be developed i suppose, if you have the aptitude for this, or possessed naturally.

this emplies that people will experience things on completely different levels to each other, visual, audial, emotional.
I am in normal conciousness more clairsentient.

please forgive me if what i am writing is old hat, this is my first propper visit to the forum and i have not yet browzed the previous threads.

in my experience, actual telepathic communication with words, in the form of you native language is rare in normal conciousness (not in any form of expanded conciousness, be this plant or chemical, or through meditation etc).

The most staggering incident of this in my life so far occured somewhere around 18 years ago in a occult/spiritual bookshop that was located above a secondhand record store in southampton, neither the record store or the book shop remain, I used to visit the record shop for a number of years and had never noticed the bookstore before, i have no idea how long it was there for, or when it disapeared, i only went once. it appeared to be run by a small woman who age i would put at anywhere between a ragged 45 to a well looked after 70 year old, she was sat behind a table or counter talking to a lad who was under somewhere between 16 and 20.
the room had only shelving around the walls, these were filled with books covering many spiritual subjects. I was browzing them looking for books on astral projection.
the young lad was talking about a friend of his that had recently died, in a car accident is how i remember it, but it may not have been, he was reminding her that he had talked about him to her previously. she told him that she remembered and had watched him, and unusually, he had moved into another incarnation already, and this was quick compared to normal conditions, i cant remember the exact words.
at this point i had a rush of blood to the head and fealt as if i might black out, so i crouched down to steady myself. it was then that i heard, in my head, or ear 'you reconised me then didnt you', i replyed 'yes i did'. the words were in my head or ears over the top of her talking to the young lad.
i freaked out somewhat, turned to her, and they looked at me, i asked if she had anything on astral projection, she said she didnt, and that she didnt have anything on telepathy either, and that should try dillons (a high street book store). i burbled something about some dimensional rubbish i had read about and not understood and left sharpish, she said something to me as i left, but i didnt hear it, i was too flustered, i pretended i had heard, this i regret, i wish i had asked her to repeat it.
the fact that she mentioned telepathy was to me a verbal validation by her to me that i had just experienced what had happened, i did reconise her, but cant for the life of me tell who she was, it was like i knew her from another time. anyway this is irrelevent to the thread.
at this time i was completely sober, i was a young adult in the early 90s and the rave culture had just started, i did smoke hashish regulally, had been through a period of around 6 months regulally experimenting with various substances , but on this occasion i was completely straight and had been for days, and had not tripped for many weeks if not months

previous to the shop incident, around a couples house who i had become aquainted with, the husband being a practicing witch, i experienced him talking and being very present in my head, the words were not completely understandable, and again i panicked, i was able to observe my subconcious mind saying things like 'who are you, are you the devil, etc etc' but be able to laugh at this reaction with him as it happened, like my subconcious mind was a seperate and nieve entity, but i couldnt help myself from protesting at the intrusion in this way, it was like a defence mechanism of panic being activated,but one i was able to observe as a third party.

I regulally had some very intense telepathic experiences whilst enjoying the rave & acid house culture, maybe this made me receptive, or maybe because i was receptive it was almost guarenteed that i would have these expriences, and they would occur with a wide range of people.

I understand that experiences in altered states can be argued as invalid due to hallucinations, however it is the shared manner of incidents in these states that is relevent to this thread.
and after all, one needs to be in an altered state of some sort to experience many phenomina.

the most common form of altered state telepathy for me would be in verbal communication, the words the mouth created would be random, a stream of unlinked words making no sense at all, however the words would seem to act as a carrier for images i guess, and whatever it was we were talkingabout, no doubt the meaning of life or the shared tripping, experience was able to be discussed in a way where both parties would know exactly what the other person meant, and to a degree that words couldnt express. this tended to happen so naturally that you almost didnt realise what was going on, but something would occur that would startle us out of the 'link' and the dawning of what occured would befall us, both aware, both able to recount and agree on the experience in the light of day.

this is something that was similarily observed by terrence mckenna when taking part in a shamanistic ritual in the amazon, the shamen was singing, spurting random words, but at the end of the ceremony members of the tribe were saying that they enjoyed the bit with the blues and browns, but the olive green bit wasnt upto much! (colours may vary to the actual account). the song was a vehical for the communication which was visual and in the form of colours percieved in the hallucinations in the mind, shared by all.

the strongest experience had by myself during this time was the formation of a ball of energy that was floating the the middle of the room (almost visable as a haze like a heat haze), the 3 of us present had an arm of energy with 2 opposing hands growing out of the end of it growing out of our heads, the hands resting on the ball, about the size of a beachball. we were able to shuffle the ball so it rolled towards us, what occured was the 3 of us each batteling to get the ball to roll towards us whilst stopping the other people from moving it to themselves, again, this was remembered by all 3 of us, it was the main entertainment for some time, and cirtainly the main event of the night, when 2 of us tired, the third was pestering us to 'play the game again'.

wether you think these mentioned experiences under the effects of a substance are valid is not important, what is important is the scope of experience of telepathy, it can happen in many ways some more obvious than others, some mind bending, some so subtle and so much already part of your life if you would only learn to see them.

what i am 100% sure of is once we all overcome the barriers that the development of speach and language have placed between us, the scope for shared experience and commnication through our senses is unlimited.

if you require a starting point pay attention to your own emotions, and understand what it is they are telling you about your own thoughts, and you will soon be able to empathise with the thoughts of others.
the human abilityy to transmit words into anothers head, in the form of classic telepathy is a reality. it happens, it has happened to me. but what is actually possible is far more effective than that, and that is coming from an normal bloke in a normal life (or as normal a life as you will find here!)

anyway, that was my first post, hello everyone!
im nearly 38, father of 2, live in a beautiful forest and have a very respectable life and job, work hard in all i do and study zen based martial arts.

sorry it went on a bit, its just that telepathy has been, and continues to be a major interest in my life, mind you im interested in everthing if im honest. :o

Ross
1st December 2010, 00:12
I think there is some confusion with telepathy, and i think many people are doing it all the time on certain levels without actually realising it

Agree with that!

Rocky_Shorz
1st December 2010, 00:46
And there's a good chance men wouldn't like what the woman is thinking while she's PMSing, you'd probably run instead of sticking around to make a cup of tea. :P

naaa I can tell you from experience knowing what is going on in a woman's mind is the secret to happiness...


knowing a chirping hummingbird is about to get its head taken off is all I need to know that it is time for special treatment...

answering on a positive note before she can ask a question, twisted with anger...

is quite amazing... ;)

Teakai
1st December 2010, 01:04
naaa I can tell you from experience knowing what is going on in a woman's mind is the secret to happiness...

knowing a chirping hummingbird is about to get its head taken off is all I need to know that it is time for special treatment...

answering on a positive note before she can ask a question, twisted with anger...

is quite amazing... ;)

If you knew that, Rocky, then you wouldn't have to ask her if she wanted a cup of tea.
Potential problem nipped in the bud :)

BMJ
1st December 2010, 01:17
I also wanted to add that I have noticed that when you push yourself to the brink mentally. In my case in my early years studying at high school I studied literally to the point of exhaustion, my mind seem to access areas it wouldn't otherwise, at that time I was able to see into the future although the experience were not something I could control they were random events, this is also the time I had some early telepathic experiences. I no longer have future visions.

Furthermore I know several people with Bi-Polar Disorder, these people mostly are mentally olympic athletes, and they can make future predictions but yet again their visions are random and not something they can control.

MiguelQ
1st December 2010, 01:23
i think telepathy is a fast method to aquire info. So.. it cant work with words like we talk..

Right now, when we talk to someone, we have to do it word by word... and thinking in what words to say .. and the better way to describe it...
But telepathy is like talking the full story in 1 word.. 1 thought... And the first barrier is our mind that is not even trained to think in "global" MODE, .. everything is done by steps..
the way we learn to describe, and to think is progressive, word by word...
now try to visualize a picture, of a story or the fundamental idea of thought , or a the whole book you read or al the knowledge you want to transmit, in just 1 shot, its like BAMMM..
and then the reciever , recieves the full message, all in once, and don't have to interpret the message, while you "hear" because , then..you just know it.. you got it..

Even simple task we do , we do it by thinking (like reading word.. which is wrong for our brain to develop that ability...
We could instead, think , ok im going to check email... but instead of you , to "speak that word by word in your mind" you can just think about the full action.. not thinking to verbalize it.. and that thought.. is the emotion we want to send..


Sorry english is not native to me, and im tired, , reading and texting is really soo ancient, and boring.. its like MORSE CODE..

Kulapops
1st December 2010, 01:28
I often remember that one...I told a friend of mine and he said "well, its the old saying, you cant live with em, and you cant live with em"...that made me laugh!



That's funny , Ross.. 'cos the version I heard was,

"Can't live with them, can't live without them. Can't shoot 'em"

;)

Is that too cheeky ? :)

K

BMJ
1st December 2010, 01:32
My experiences is that it is a very clear voice speaking straight into my mind, without any background noise, and i can understand that person or animal clearly and the voice in my head is in english.

Silentthinker
1st December 2010, 02:14
hey all,
From experiences with a few people I have known who were telepathic to varying degrees, telepathy as in recieving information from others, usually in the form of images or impressions, is much easier and more common than someone who is able to send or 'push' energy into others, which I have only ever encountered in two people, and in both cases they had to have a connection with the other person involved to be able to send anything major or meaingful.

witchy1
1st December 2010, 03:59
It shouldn't be long. I can move small objects, like a piece of paper, a spec of dust or a dried up leaf. But it's very exhuasting, when I link my energy and intent to the objects, it drains me. I need to practice more with the focus part...its a task to get the images of me failing to move the objects out of my head. Just when I start to feel weak and give up; the object moves and leaves me a little dizzy, cool non the less.

Peace if Mind, can you describe the exercises that you do or did to start the process please
Thanks

Carmody
1st December 2010, 04:49
hey all,
From experiences with a few people I have known who were telepathic to varying degrees, telepathy as in recieving information from others, usually in the form of images or impressions, is much easier and more common than someone who is able to send or 'push' energy into others, which I have only ever encountered in two people, and in both cases they had to have a connection with the other person involved to be able to send anything major or meaingful.

Describe major or meaningful. I'm curious.

neptuneforce
1st December 2010, 05:30
Telepathy is seeing a renaissance with the arrival of our newest generation. so if you have a kid encourage them to express their gifts by saying stuff like you can, you are, you will, you'll be, the Goddesses' creativity.... para siempre

Silentthinker
1st December 2010, 07:11
Describe major or meaningful. I'm curious.

well in the case of the woman that was the best at it, major or meaningful generally meant someone she was close to, whether it meant friends or something more, and she was always best with the three or four people she was connected to who were also psychic to varying degrees, mostly because those were the people that actively knew what she could do, but her one-time boyfriend also mentioned on a few occassions to me that she would sing songs in his head, and he was aware of what she could do as well.
I only ever met her personally once, but she was a good friend of my best friend, and died a while back.
My best friend is an empath but i've only ever been able to send emotional energy more than constructive thoughts to him, and am not really sure if i could successfully with others, having never tried, I was always afraid of the consequences if sucessful more than anything else. Also from what i've come to understand things of that nature work better when using visualization and i've never been a very visual person.

Carmody
1st December 2010, 15:41
You should try more, that's sorta the point of being here. Bedsides our dealing with our own individual foibles, we're here to make those 4th dimensional connections. We are not here just to learn lessons that have weight to us individually and as a collective whole, we are here to teach or bring this 3-d body construct to the 4D connection level.

But that is up to you, you need to do things at the pace and in the way that work for you.

At least that is my current understanding of things as they be. I'll likely still be forming and opinion and understanding until the day I die.....and I'm sure that opinion will be different than the one I have now.

Luke
1st December 2010, 15:53
I once read in book, that in reality we "seed" out thoughts around all the time .. telepaths are mostly those that have not made barriers that diversify their thoughts from rest of thought-space. That said, there are those who can navigate this space and break natural barriers actively, or those capable of planting bits and pieces in "neutral zones". But this is quite another skills to passive one.

Of course that would make "full" telepath a being without any ego, swimming dark oceans of what others think.

Carmody
1st December 2010, 15:57
That about sums it up for me! :p

I find I spend most of my time annoyed that I have to suffer through having a body. Or, more specifically, that I have to dance to the tune of the masses, in order to even be able to walk down the street (whatever walking down the street means - some days it feels more like driving a car than being a 'person'). I tend to be able to focus more energy if I'm thinking of the body as a lens that needs to be treated right on order to hold it's shape and be able to handle the energies... than if I think of it as being the self, in totality. Meaning, I don't identify as the body being me..and this does freak the ego out into being into deep fundamental fears when this through process is enacted.

And it takes time, for the intellect that rides within, it may attempt to be clear on this, but the physical structure takes time to re-form itself to new paradigms..without 'freaking' out too much. When one does this or goes through that process..the body is full of fear and tries to manage one's thoughts into safe areas and ways..as this is all the body knows, it contains no intellect. Just the basics of response tied to it's own survival. So it constantly tries to shut down that sort of evolution due to base fears coming into play (in the same way the autonomous system jerks your hand away from fire or pain-same base response), base fears that drive the body to do as it needs to commit to basic survival. It not knowing anything of evolution. Just survival. After all, that is it's job, it's only real job, central to it's existence.

Peace of Mind
1st December 2010, 17:18
Peace if Mind, can you describe the exercises that you do or did to start the process please
Thanks

Hi, Witchy1

It’s rather hard to put in words. I’m not even sure if this will work with others. All I do is go into a trance like state, while staring at the object. When everything around the object starts looking blurry, sought of like white noise on a television set, or the object and everything around it starts looking and moving like a reflection on a wavy lake. I think about the object, what it’s made of, how it came to be, its immediate surroundings. I sought of imagine myself to be this object, or a part of it. While I’m doing all of this, I keep getting images/thoughts of me doubting myself. It’s like a subliminal program running deep inside my consciousness preventing me from acquiring the right amount of focus and intent. Most of the time, during this state of consciousness is spent fighting against this hidden mechanism.

I’ve only move a few thing’s about a few inches or so, once it happens I always lose my concentration due to the shock and the temporary mild tension in my head (I’m working on it, thou). I think we all can do this, but it requires a Hugh amount of faith and respect for the object. Its feels like making a connection with another life form. The respect and will has a big part to do with it. For me, it’s draining and time consuming….but I’m sure consistent practice will ease that. Some people will think you’re crazy for talking to inanimate objects,:rolleyes:, but it works. No one or thing on this planet is more important then the other, respect and collaboration seems to be key here….at least for me it is. Knowing your body is actually connected to everything else is crucial; overcoming the illusion of separatism will help immensely.

Peace

Carmody
1st December 2010, 18:15
I think about the object, what it’s made of, how it came to be, its immediate surroundings.

I am at my most powerful when i am so tuned that I understand and can cognate the entire structure and each individual molecule of the entire surrounding area, in totality...as a rolling, roiling active and alive thing.

When I'm in this frame of mind, connection is complete ---and all doorways are opened. Time, space, matter, farsight, future sight, manipulation, casting voice and intent, capacity to listen...etc. All doors open.

So, in essence, I begin with...... the expansion of awareness into all. There is no force, no pressure to do anything is involved, it is more of a relaxing of the body's influence into these matters, to get it out of the way, so to speak, at the same time the awareness expands.

Don't force it, in my experience. Like learning anything ...it will take time to learn. Pressuring something to move is a problem, IMO and IME, as it brings the body into the equation, which causes the function to cease as fast as it came on line.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PU08P_fZPk

(This is the only copy I could find of this song on the net. sadly, it is distorted)

Rocky_Shorz
1st December 2010, 18:42
I understand your thoughts on this, but this has been my experience. I also have developed, I suppose a sort of telepathic connection to close friends and family, for example if someone is thinking of me I hiccup, or I know when a close friend of family member is about to call me, I have an urge to call them at that time. Also I can here in my mind when my best friend is thinking to call out for me.

we all have spiritual connections to those from our bloodlines, you have just begun to expand, but remember going back far enough most of us are related in one way or another...

when I contacted the Futures that had traveled back to help us, it was possible because many are relatives of my bloodline 35000 years from now...

¤=[Post Update]=¤


If you knew that, Rocky, then you wouldn't have to ask her if she wanted a cup of tea.
Potential problem nipped in the bud :)

lol... then the words on her mind would have come out...

by asking it throws off her train of thought causing a calming affect...

Gone002
1st December 2010, 20:08
Im not sure but i have thought that maybe it has something to do with collective consciouness and such. Consciouness always gets left by the door in the scientific community becasue they feel it doesn't warrent any investigation. if we tried to work more in that area then maybe.

Anchor
1st December 2010, 21:27
I think the secret to contemplating telepathy and experimenting with it is first to give up the notion that words are involved at all.

My SO and I have low level telepathic experience. We can pretty reliably, and wordlessly, agree when it is time for chocolate - I think this is progress :)

witchy1
1st December 2010, 23:31
Thank you peace of mind. It sounds like you need to be at "one" with the object. I think I would struggle getting into it with a leaf........what if my mind didnt come back rofl.

And this is no doubt my problem..........lack of faith in my ability!

I thought it was more about channelling the energy thru say your arm down thru your hand and moving the object that way or thru your third eye...........so like mind focus of energy. This is how I have felt it in dreamtime. almost like a power surge aimed at an object. When I try to do this it hurts my heart for some weird reason....like a big ball of pressure in there and no where for it to get out..........hmmm

NancyV
2nd December 2010, 00:46
I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't be comfortable living in this world with everyone being telepathic. It would create a huge disruption if we all knew what everyone else was thinking and knew how many people lie about most things, even to themselves. It's even somewhat strange to get used to telepathy or merging when travelling out of body on other dimensions. Even seemingly highly evolved beings have egos. Until you merge with the source you have an ego, and even then I have always considered merging with the source as becoming the really really big, one and only EGO, and I have merged with the Source several times.

Many years ago I went through a 3 day encounter group seminar called Life Spring. One of the exercises we did was with one other person. The two of us sat in chairs facing each other, knees touching, looking into each others eyes and said something to the other (which I can't remember exactly). It doesn't really matter what the exact words are as it's just a tool to create a closer connection. We were supposed to blink as little as possible and keep our eyes focused on the other person's eyes. I wasn't sure what was supposed to happen but the leaders of the seminar kept talking about "Getting It". I found it rather annoying when overhearing them saying that no one had gotten it yet.

I did find out what they meant as during this process the lady I was with and I suddenly "merged". I suppose you could say we had instant mental telepathy but it was more like I became her, she became me and we became us. It was definitely exhilarating, I laughed a lot as it was quite energizing. When the group leaders saw that we had succeeded they put each of us with another person and I'm not sure what happened with her but I then "pulled out" the next person from behind his or her wall and we then merged. They put me with a total of about 5 or 6 people and I reached in and pulled them each out so we could merge. That must have been "Getting it".

I stayed high on that energy for a couple of days and over the years I tried it with several other people with the same result. It was somewhat similar to merging out of body on other dimensions, which I did for many years, but there is much more going on on other dimensions and my powers were unlimited. On the earth plane there seems to be a natural inhibitor of using these unlimited powers, at least for me and probably for most others. Of course there are always exceptions and I sure as heck don't know everything when I'm in this body. When out of body things change greatly of course and there is no limit to knowledge, power and love, other than what you might happen to impose, depending on whether or not you are operating with an agenda, which is what most all beings do when not merged with the Source.

But as far as constant telepathy here on earth??? No thanks! :)

Nancy

Carmody
2nd December 2010, 00:59
Well said, Nancy.

Agape
2nd December 2010, 02:01
My take ...we're part of one information grid, as a species and of broader information grid as members of living beings, life forms family..

Possibly, lots of substantial information is being exchanged between us on unconscious level, it's our what you call DNa but I'd like to substantiate it with bio-information grid.
It resonates at certain frequency , range of frequencies, like different radio stations you can tune .

How again this happens is mysterious but from what we know , information , especially bio-information can be shared accross the Space on long distances.

Is there (not ) an independent information unit that travels faster than any physical particles or any other form of energy vessel ?

Does information necessarilly need the physical vessel to travel from one being to another and what if the information is sent through the grid entwining this universe, wrapping it to the matrix of life.


Bio-information seems to be able to travel to other living beings on its own frequency, beyond the rules of physical non-living universe.

How again, it can be received only by another appropriate vessel able to tune into the same frequency and read the pattern of its message .

The complexity, pattern, color , speed and sound of your thought/message determine what way is it going to be received, at the end .

We all don't share completely the same grid, life on the Earth is especially very diverse, with lots of species and mutations of those species inhabiting single space and influencing each other .

Human beings are essentially very complicated, their bio-information differentiates them from animal species who may behave similarly but do not contain the same level of complexity .

More they're complicated the more uniqueness is destined to occur among them, in individualisation, mutation of the basic pattern they've all inherited.

Those mutations make them equally original as unique but till now, the process is delayed because of 'mother earth' gravity is slowing the processes to its own speed .


Because of the diversity, there are some unique individual patterns we try to share about but we're unable to do so because they are just our own.

We learn about others if we can feel into them and read their pattern. If we don't even if communication occurs, we may still not know who are they.


The part where we share purely accountable information, neutral in nature, should be understandable to all , despite their individualities .

If you discover the end of the story ...there can be others who discover the same .

Our evolution time ( humanly ) moves in time waves ...and they are mind waves causing the evolution,

without conscious thinking effort, there would be none, no civilisation, no intelligence without conscious thinking effort .

It means there's lots to discover , we are at the start. Here to help each other to think further knowing the solutions are not at hand and long will not be,

if mankind is lucky it will live for another millions of years .

And all that time it's supposed to keep evolving as biological intelligence to more advanced forms, unfortunatelly, it's happening very slowly here

and also because the continuous holocausts people are causing to their own children.


Nevertheless, I do not speak. I mostly just think and sometimes, lets see, keep trying to slow it down to clicking some letters on keyboard and it's supposed to be readable to some people around the world.

What a responsible activity :lol:


It's an assisted telepathy in either case ..



:sleep:

WyoSeeker
2nd December 2010, 02:16
My SO and I have low level telepathic experience. We can pretty reliably, and wordlessly, agree when it is time for chocolate - I think this is progress :)

My ex and I watched Kris Angel do some mind reading tricks where he would hold his fingers open between him and a subject then ask them to pick a number and project an image of it between his fingers which he would then get right - always. Sounded like it could work to us so we started practicing with it. With very little practice at all we started getting 80% accuracy with the single digits 0 - 9. This practice seemed to spark an increased ability to sense what the other was thinking all the time.

Actually, now that I think about it I'm not so sure that doesn't have something to do with us being ex's! :)

BMJ
2nd December 2010, 13:27
To further expand on my experiences I have noticed that with some of my past girlfriends we have had thought transfer and yes yet again in english this was a good one to relay to everyone here.
Back in December of 1992 I was sitting with my girlfriend in my car one saturday night near Sydney Airport we talked and their was a pause and i thought "it would be nice to go get something to eat down at Brighton Le-Sands", and Collin said yeh that would be a good idea what do feel like.
And thats whattypcially happens in my case.
With one girlfriend in particular I was dating in 1999 we would dicuss a topic and string it together as if one person was talking and we would be in total agreeance about what was said to the word, it was as if one person was talking not two.

On the off topic point I made about future visions I will correct myself, I have had two of what would seem visions in the past ten years, one was a recurring vision about my death in a massive flood / tsunami stricking Sydney and this was recurring dream that started about 2002 and ended in 2008, the water was a massive body of water and note a wave.
This has now been replaced by a vision I had of coming out of bunker to see all of Sydney scorched by fire, and I mean literally everything touched by fire. But I have only had this vision once about a month maybe two months ago.

BMJ
2nd December 2010, 14:01
Another off topic note. I think in the future we will develop the mental ability to affect the physical world around us and the out come of events, but at the moment these abilities are blocked in all of us.