CBC claims megadoses of vitamins dangerous

[Ernie Nemeth]

A doctor has claimed that megadoses of popular vitamins like C, D, E are dangerous.

The doctor makes the unusual and ludicrous comparison of taking 1000mg of vitamin C is like eating 7 cantaloupes! The comparisons are completely ridiculous. A 1000mg of vitamin B6 they equate to eating 200 potatoes!

The article does not explain about water soluble and oil soluble vitamins.

And The Fifth Estate that supposedly ran the article states there is no research into megadoses or its health effects.

Without using the internet I can cite a very popular book back in the 1990s called, "Life Extension" by the scientists Dirk Pearson and Sandy Shaw.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/megadoses-vitamins-more-harm-than-good-1.3317534

[Blacklight43]

And Linus Pauling way before them.

[avid]

5000 iu D3 per day, 1000iu slow-release Vit C is a basic necessity, plus Vit B complex high strength, thiamine, and other minor minerals if required. Necessary in this vile day and age. Young people will not need so much, (under 25), but with the terrible diets and lifestyles drink loads of fluoride-free water with the stuff I take above.

[conk]

Of course they are dangerous. 90% of vitamins sold are synthetic, pharmaceutically owned crap. True, Mother Nature endorsed vitamins are expensive and hard to find at WalMart.

[Michelle Marie]

What they really meant was: it's bad for profits for the Medical Health Profit System and if we can continue to deceive you, we will.

Too bad. It doesn't work on more and more people. Dumbing down did not work. The real dumbing down comes in when you can pass on kindergarten lies and think that you can get away with it. It's becoming quite humorous, isn't it? (Not to/for people who may buy into it. For those, there are Truth Warriors at work in our world risking/giving their lives.)

I still have that "Life Extension" book on my book shelf by Dirk Pearson and Sandy Shaw.

Thanks for the backwards humor. Deception is not funny, but futile attempts of it is.

Thank God we know the Truth.

Love,
Michelle Marie

[Rhah]

Or could this perhaps be the beginning of the process of banning all vitamin pills that Simon Parkes warned us about?
A couple of scientists proclaiming that vitamin pills are dangerous so that governments will have a valid reason to make both consumption and sale illegal for the public.

Though, of course, Conk also has a valid point.

It just makes me wonder.

[Ernie Nemeth]

http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2678735848

Here is a part of that Fifth Estate episode.

[Flash]

Books back in the 80's or even 90's are not always accurate, research (alternative and traditional) having made great steps since.

However, everyone knows that vitamine C surplus is eliminated through urine on a daily basis. Vitamin D however could be detrimental, but the dosage has to be so enormous that we usually do not talk about it. For vitamine E, i plainly do not know. Another fear promoter it seems.

However, vitamin A and the B complex can be detrimental and in fact quite nocive if there is an overdose.

Plus, the quantities proposed in the Canadian system are vastly different than those proposed in the American system (we Canadiens are much more conservative, American dosage is like their food portions, much more). This has to be taken into account too, Canadians rarely overdose.


A doctor has claimed that megadoses of popular vitamins like C, D, E are dangerous.

The doctor makes the unusual and ludicrous comparison of taking 1000mg of vitamin C is like eating 7 cantaloupes! The comparisons are completely ridiculous. A 1000mg of vitamin B6 they equate to eating 200 potatoes!

The article does not explain about water soluble and oil soluble vitamins.

And The Fifth Estate that supposedly ran the article states there is no research into megadoses or its health effects.

Without using the internet I can cite a very popular book back in the 1990s called, "Life Extension" by the scientists Dirk Pearson and Sandy Shaw.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/megadoses-vitamins-more-harm-than-good-1.3317534

[Bubu]

Its like saying that its ok to take synthetic Vit. on right amount.

On the big picture behind the conscious this can be considered pharma propaganda.

[Ernie Nemeth]

A part of the problem is that they throw vitamins in with a thing called, "supplements". That is a controversial area with many wild claims - some of which are dangerous. Leaving aside Conk's astute observation that not all producers make quality or even safe products, vitamins are not supplements. They are natural components of the foods we eat and that the body needs to maintain its health. So are the twenty or so amino acids. They are complex molecules, made up of many different elements.

Then there are the supplements from which certain components are deemed beneficial, like krill oil and eucalyptus leaves, etc. Apart from that are the elemental supplements like calcium, iron, zinc, etc.

These supplements, where the body must break down the components and selectively absorb the intended components can and do sometimes have adverse side effects.

So, too, can you overdose on any vitamin or mineral.

But vitamins come in two distinct flavors, water and oil soluble. The oil soluble vitamins are much more dangerous in terms of overdosing, oil soluble vitamins stay in the body far longer than water soluble ones. Vitamin C is water soluble so it leaves the body quickly. A and E are oil soluble and overdoses are possible but reversible in all but the most extreme cases. Vitamins are best taken in combination with certain minerals for maximum uptake and effect. Pearson and Shaw recommended zinc and selenium with just about every vitamin.

This just scratches the surface, without external reference. I am not an investigative reporter. But my facts, in this little blurb, make that show and article seem like fear mongering and propaganda. They gave no information about the benefits of vitamins or even alert the public to the oil and water thing. Bottom line: Water soluble vitamins can safely be taken in megadoses to great effect.

But the big guys might sell less cold and flu medications, and we can't have that.

[Flash]

Of course they are dangerous. 90% of vitamins sold are synthetic, pharmaceutically owned crap. True, Mother Nature endorsed vitamins are expensive and hard to find at WalMart.

yes conk, on that aspect you are right, but here it is nto the vitamin that is dangerous, but the chemical it is made with or the artificial unassimilable by the body molécules. Natural vitamins are not that dangerous except for a few on which we should not overdose.

[fourty-two]

Andrew Saul has a website in which he calls himself the Mega Vitamin Man. He has extensive info and cites for his data. If you wish a in depth study of vitamins, I recommend it. Lots of his vids on u-tube if you just want to listen.

[Iloveyou]

The following interview on nutritional and cellular medicine might roughly fit here.

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http://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/

Dr. Rath worked together with the late Nobel Laureate in various areas of nutritional research. The two scientists became close personal friends who shared common humanistic values, including their determination for peace and justice. In 1994, shortly before his death, Linus Pauling stated: “There is no doubt in my mind that I was thinking about Dr. Rath as my successor.”

Today Dr. Rath heads a research and development institute in nutritional and Cellular Medicine. He is the founder of the scientific concept of Cellular Medicine, the systematic introduction into clinical medicine of the biochemical knowledge of the role of micronutrients as biocatalysts in a multitude of metabolic reactions at the cellular level.

He is an outspoken advocate for patient rights and for free access to natural health worldwide. His advocacy continues to be instrumental in preventing a global ban on natural health therapies on behalf of the pharmaceutical industry.

In recognition of his civil courage against the pharmaceutical interests and his efforts on behalf of the people of the world, he received the prestigious 2001 “Bulwark of Liberty Award” from the American Preventive Medical Association.

[CurEus]

Of course they are dangerous. 90% of vitamins sold are synthetic, pharmaceutically owned crap. True, Mother Nature endorsed vitamins are expensive and hard to find at WalMart.


I agree completely. There are very few companies that only produce vitamins from naturally sourced compounds and extracts. A few years ago there was an explosive condemnation of Vitamin E and its use. It was found to actually be quite harmful at "high" doses. It was later found that the synthetic vit E was the cause and that massive doses of natural vit E was highly beneficial. You can guess what the press actually covered.

Most of us are aware that most Vit C is synthetic and from China, an extract of dubious chemical and GMO processes. Vit C is not particularly "shelf stable" Quite difficult to find naturally sourced Vit C. Acerola Cherry is one good source. CBC reported that many products do not contain the "listed" amounts of the vitamins recently. Not sure why they felt the need to investigate but I'm not opposed to that.

What the media also fails to consider is that many vitamins "alone" are not particularly helpful unless utilized properly. Some vitamins require saturation levels of other vitamins in order to be most effective. Some vitamins can leech others out of the system in order to become bio available so being low in one can lead to problems with others. Same with excesses of one vitamin interfering with others. Many work in synergistic manners like Vit A, k2, & d3 together.

This is not the first time CBC has run hit pieces on Vitamins. I wonder how that comes about or if it will change with the new government.

[Flash]

Here a video on why to have megadosage of vitamin C

How vaccination damages the human being

And I hope she will survive

I posted in the autism thread as well for research purpose of members later on


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0LLX0sgwAU