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Hervé
16th November 2015, 15:41
Putin: ISIS financed from 40 countries, including G20 members (https://www.rt.com/news/322305-isis-financed-40-countries/)

Published time: 16 Nov, 2015 14:29
Edited time: 16 Nov, 2015 15:10


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November 16, 2015. Russian President Vladimir Putin during a meeting with Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi on the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit in Antalya, Turkey. © Michael Klimentyev / RIA Novosti


President Vladimir Putin says he’s shared Russian intelligence data on Islamic State financing with his G20 colleagues: the terrorists appear to be financed from 40 countries, including some G20 member states.

During the summit, “I provided examples based on our data on the financing of different Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) units by private individuals. This money, as we have established, comes from 40 countries and, there are some of the G20 members among them,” Putin told the journalists.

Putin also spoke of the urgent need to curb the illegal oil trade by IS.

"I’ve shown our colleagues photos taken from space and from aircraft which clearly demonstrate the scale of the illegal trade in oil and petroleum products," he said.

“The motorcade of refueling vehicles stretched for dozens of kilometers, so that from a height of 4,000 to 5,000 meters they stretch beyond the horizon," Putin added, comparing the convoy to gas and oil pipeline systems.

It’s not the right time to try and figure out which country is more and which is less effective in the battle with Islamic State, as now a united international effort is needed against the terrorist group, Putin said.

Putin reiterated Russia’s readiness to support armed opposition in Syria in its efforts to fight Islamic State.

"Some armed opposition groups consider it possible to begin active operations against IS with Russia's support. And we are ready to provide such support from the air. If it happens it could become a good basis for the subsequent work on a political settlement,” he said.

“We really need support from the US, European nations, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran,” the president added.

promezeus
16th November 2015, 15:51
Putin: ISIS financed from 40 countries, including G20 members (https://www.rt.com/news/322305-isis-financed-40-countries/)

It’s not the right time to try and figure out which country is more and which is less effective in the battle with Islamic State, as now a united international effort is needed against the terrorist group, Putin said.



So here we see very clearly how Putin is calling for NWO takeover of planet under guise of unity against an organization created by the NWO.

And what will be the final bogeyman after Isis?

Can you say staged alien invasion?

Shadowself
16th November 2015, 16:14
List of terrorist incidents, 2015

By the 13th November there have been 289 terrorist attacks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015

Flash
16th November 2015, 16:19
Putin at the G20 summit: We offered to cooperate [with the US] in anti-IS efforts. Unfortunately, our American partners refused. They just sent a written note and it says: ‘we reject your offer’,” Putin said.

This makes me Wonder what the American are about with ISIL, one of the G20 involved in their financing must be USA, therefore their refusal. I wish this was published in the USA and read by a majority of citizens. Does USA want to sell arms, get out of their economic problems through war, it seems? And get the oïl? Surely looks like it. Although Russians can be two faces as well, risks for a fruitful potential collaboration have to be taken. But up to now, Russia has not wage war anywhere except Syria - not even in Ukraine when they were truly provoked to do so. Therefore, who should we believe?

Meggings
16th November 2015, 16:28
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Citizen No2
16th November 2015, 16:46
I did hesitate when I posted the article that Jim Stone had written....... then decided to post it.

For anyone that is interested, Jim is the first to post when he is wrong, when further details come to light. I have to say though, the picture from inside the Bataclan is very suspicious. I am absolutely certain that real people lost their lives, that crisis actors were not used in the awful event that took place inside that theatre.............. as we know from operations such as Gladio, TPTB have no problem what-so-ever in killing innocent people to further their agenda.

The points Jim makes about the scene inside the Bataclan are, in my view, valid. Please be warned that the photo of the scene is very upsetting. Do not view if easily upset.

http://82.221.129.208/ifyouarinamericayouprobablycantseethisc5.html


Regards.

Flash
16th November 2015, 16:48
I agree, i read Jim Stone article, and the minimum should have been having people's recording coming out, which is not happening. This is surprising, because in a show like this, there is always people recording something. There should have been cell phone recordings. At a minimum. And how come there is no one with the dead, bent over their body crying?


I did hesitate when I posted the article that Jim Stone had written....... then decided to post it.

For anyone that is interested, Jim is the first to post when he is wrong, when further details come to light. I have to say though, the picture from inside the Bataclan is very suspicious. I am absolutely certain that real people lost their lives, that crisis actors were not used in the awful event that took place inside that theatre.............. as we know from operations such as Gladio, TPTB have no problem what-so-ever in killing innocent people to further their agenda.

The points Jim makes about the scene inside the Bataclan are, in my view, valid. Please be warned that the photo of the scene is very upsetting. Do not view if easily upset.

http://82.221.129.208/ifyouarinamericayouprobablycantseethisc5.html


Regards.

Cidersomerset
16th November 2015, 18:41
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Paris attacks: 'France will destroy IS' - Hollande
27 minutes ago

Short clip on link....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34836439

France is committed to "destroying" the so-called Islamic State group
after Friday's deadly attacks, President Francois Hollande has said.
He said he would table a bill to extend the state of emergency declared
after the attacks for three months and would suggest changes to the
constitution.

France's military campaign against IS in Iraq and Syria will also intensify.

Read More....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34836439

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France Attacks to Dominate Agenda at G-20 Conference in Turkey

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Paris attacks: UK security to be intensified - Theresa May
54 minutes ago

Security will be "intensified" at events in major cities and at UK borders in the wake
of Friday's terror attacks in Paris, Theresa May has said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34836925

Sierra
16th November 2015, 18:56
There now, France. Serves you right for dragging your feet when America beats the war drums.

Thank goodness for the CIA with their clever, and inevitable dropping of passports from the enemy du jour.

Peace of Mind
16th November 2015, 19:12
We need to get to the bottom of this once and for all!!

Does anyone have any information/dialog coming from these terrorist groups? I seem to always be having a hard time finding anything coming directly from them. I’m very interested in hearing their reasoning. All I can find is claims from government officials and news outlets.

It’s very important to hear from all sides when tragedies like this happen. I don’t believe in the American policy of not giving “terrorists” a forum to speak. Why would you not want people who are capable of causing such harm and pain to explain their reasons for doing this?

I just can’t think of a logical reason for these happenings…other than to cause discord, but how does these terrorists benefit from that? We can easily see how certain governments will benefit from it. America is filled with people from all over the world and the excuse that “they just hate us” doesn’t bold well…it makes little sense. There are shop owners in my neighborhood that go back and forth to the middle East (Israel, Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt) all the time and their stories always seems to vary from what the Teli/news channel say. I reside in NYC, and calling this place the “world’s grand central station” is an understatement. No need to negotiate with terrorists but that shouldn’t mean that we shouldn’t hear them out. I want to know “why”… What’s to hide?

Peace

Peace of Mind
16th November 2015, 19:16
We need to get to the bottom of this once and for all!!

Does anyone have any information/dialog coming from these terrorist groups? I seem to always be having a hard time finding anything coming directly from them. I’m very interested in hearing their reasoning. All I can find is claims from government officials and news outlets.

It’s very important to hear from all sides when tragedies like this happen. I don’t believe in the American policy of not giving “terrorists” a forum to speak. Why would you not want people who are capable of causing such harm and pain to not explain their reasons for doing this?

I just can’t think of a logical reason for these happenings…other than to cause discord, but how does these terrorists benefit from that? We can easily see how certain governments will benefit from it. America is filled with people from all over the world and the excuse that “they just hate us” doesn’t bold well…it makes little sense. There are shop owners in my neighborhood that go back and forth to the middle East (Israel, Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt) all the time and their stories always seems to vary from what the Teli/news channel say. I reside in NYC, and calling this place the “world’s grand central station” is an understatement. No need to negotiate with terrorists but that shouldn’t mean that we shouldn’t hear them out. I want to know “why”… What’s to hide?

Peace

Hervé
16th November 2015, 19:25
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Cidersomerset
16th November 2015, 19:32
G20 final day: Fight against terror & Russia - West cooperation

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Published on 16 Nov 2015


President Vladimir Putin says he’s shared Russian intelligence data on Islamic State
financing with his G20 colleagues: the terrorists appear to be financed from 40 countries,
including some G20 member states.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wox

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CrossTalk on Paris attacks: Mourning The Victims

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Published on 16 Nov 2015

As we all grieve for Paris in the wake of the horrific terrorist attacks, some very
hard and painful questions must be addressed to what degree are the attacks in
Paris blowback for Western meddling in the Middle East? And has the West's war
on terror only generated more terror?

CrossTalking with Mark Sleboda, Dmitry Babich, and John Laughland.
RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

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ISIS financed from 40 countries, including G20 members – Putin (FULL SPEECH)

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Published on 16 Nov 2015

President Vladimir Putin says he’s shared Russian intelligence data on Islamic State
financing with his G20 colleagues: the terrorists appear to be financed from 40
countries, including some G20 member states.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wox

Sierra
16th November 2015, 19:54
We need to get to the bottom of this once and for all!!

Does anyone have any information/dialog coming from these terrorist groups? I seem to always be having a hard time finding anything coming directly from them. I’m very interested in hearing their reasoning. All I can find is claims from government officials and news outlets.

It’s very important to hear from all sides when tragedies like this happen. I don’t believe in the American policy of not giving “terrorists” a forum to speak. Why would you not want people who are capable of causing such harm and pain to not explain their reasons for doing this?

I just can’t think of a logical reason for these happenings…other than to cause discord, but how does these terrorists benefit from that? We can easily see how certain governments will benefit from it. America is filled with people from all over the world and the excuse that “they just hate us” doesn’t bold well…it makes little sense. There are shop owners in my neighborhood that go back and forth to the middle East (Israel, Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt) all the time and their stories always seems to vary from what the Teli/news channel say. I reside in NYC, and calling this place the “world’s grand central station” is an understatement. No need to negotiate with terrorists but that shouldn’t mean that we shouldn’t hear them out. I want to know “why”… What’s to hide?

Peace

I think it's because these terrorist groups are actually first world hires. They are here to destroy the Middle East, not explain themselves to the alternative media. The main stream media are in bed with those that do the false flag events.

And really, while Wahhabism made it possible to suck in (highly paid for their respective countries) violent idiots to do our dirty work, for the most part these organizations are trashing Middle Eastern countries, one after the other.

Oh look, two birds with one stone.

Oh look, Europe will join the US and Britain, make that three birds.

Billy
16th November 2015, 20:09
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm


1871: An American General named, Albert Pike, who had been enticed into the Illuminati by Guissepe Mazzini, completes his military blueprint for three world wars and various revolutions throughout the world, culminating into moving this great conspiracy into its final stage.

The first world war is to be fought for the purpose of destroying the Tsar in Russia,as promised by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in 1815. The Tsar is to be replaced with communism which is to be used to attack religions, predominantly Christianity. The differences between the British and German empires are to be used to forment this war.

The second world war is to be used to forment the controversy between facism and political zionism with the slaughter of Jews in Germany a lynchpin in bringing hatred against the German people. This is designed to destroy fascism (which the Rothschilds created) and increase the power of political zionism. This war is also designed to increase the power of communism to the level that it equalled that of united Christendom.

The third world war is to be played out by stirring up hatred of the Muslim world for the purposes of playing the Islamic world and the political zionists off against one another. Whilst this is going on, the remaining nations would be forced to fight themselves into a state of mental, physical, spiritual and economic exhaustion.

On August 15th of this year, Albert Pike writes a letter (now catalogued in the British Museum) to Guiseppe Mazzini in which he states the following,

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

Looks like the plan is unfolding nicely for the Psychopaths :frusty:

sigma6
16th November 2015, 20:11
it's all bs and everyone here I would hope would know this... what the exact agenda is, is multi-fold and is sure to have more then one level... but simply put it sure sounds like an attack on the Russian's raining on their parade (of death and destruction)

These guys can't even help let slip out the truth... French President let's slip it's the ILLUMINATI...
the all too real by now... (unless you have been living under a rock) ILLUMINATI...
or as Jim Carrey calls them the Looming Nutties...

Did anyone post this yet?... (sorry in advance if it was, cause no... I didn't read through a 250+ posts...sowee )
but I do wonder why so much of this weird false flag stuff is coming out of France?... then again,
France got majorly burned after Russia called their bluff and left them holding the bag on those two war ships,
which was a gross violation of commercial contract law. Evidence of a war time measures? regardless how subtle...
i.e. is France heading toward economic problems and I think especially because they are having similar
problems in the nuclear reactors industry... two major (and self imposed I might add...) strikes against their economy...

French president says on national TV that the Illuminati is attacking Paris.
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Jhonie
16th November 2015, 20:34
Lots of loosh to go around for all the archons.
http://www.newschannel10.com/story/28603897/isis-releases-kill-list-seven-texas-cities-included

The Pentagon has responded to a globally-released 'Kill List', asking law enforcement to give extra protection for military personnel whose personal information was released.

CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports the Pentagon spent the weekend notifying the soldiers who appeared on the list, and urged city police departments and military police to increase patrol in the neighborhoods where the targeted live.

The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) published the list days ago, a report that contained names, photos, and home addresses of U.S. Armed Forces personnel, causing alarm in cities potentially at high-risk.

According to the publication, ISIS urges followers and sympathizers in the U.S. to kill the servicemen. Specific personnel on the list are largely from the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Navy - branches of the country's military that have conducted massive air strikes against ISIS.

Maunagarjana
16th November 2015, 20:39
To understand this, one must also understand what has been occurring in Syria and Iraq over the last couple of months. This especially so since the Russian forces have been involved in Syria, have backed the legitimate ruler and people of Syria. That they have been highly successful, the Russians, the Syrians and the others that have joined them in destroying ISIS bases,

So we see here in this "Cosmic Awareness" channeled disinfo program that we are being subtly given the meme that russia is on the opposite side, the supposed 'good' guy in this matter. But russia and china are also part of the problem, not the solution. In fact the brics bank is run by goldman sachs and this is just another bs savior program leading to global world domination of the illuminati under their proxy, the brics and UN.
Don't fall for it.

You were saying.....

Goldman Sachs is ditching its BRIC fund
http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-is-ditching-its-bric-fund-2015-11

:whistle:

Innocent Warrior
16th November 2015, 20:51
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Frenchy
16th November 2015, 20:56
Crisis actors indeed.........until you know someone who was killed in this mess. A friend here lost two friends, a mother and her daughter. They were not crisis actors.
Greetings Elaine,
Without attempting to take anything away from the sentiment of your above message of feeling, and I hope your friends are able to pay their last respects and affection to kiss their loved ones goodbye...

We all realise by the same token, that the 'authorities' refused this human act of love , at Sandy Hook. This is very likely because there were no bodies ( Vittorio Sotto and another excepted ? ). A ' security Drill 'preceded the Paris (FF ? ), and if this was staged (as Sandy Hook ), then more people have entered the lonely, terrifying, tunnels to DUMBS, and whatever horrors there await.

Blunt, Harsh, but intended with sincerity, Truth is the only Light we desperately seek... Peace PA Friend(s)...

TODD & NORA
16th November 2015, 21:11
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Frenchy
16th November 2015, 21:36
" Once again, Illuminé in this context means "crack-pots" NOT the Illuminati NWO we are talking about on Avalon. Go back to page 7 and read earlier posts about this. "

Holland might have read the history of JFK ( et al ), so is it a possibility that :
Those who espouse views " outside the (ab) ' Norm ' (al)...... will always be spoken of as ' Crazies " ? ?

Remember all the Truths that Michael Collons, B.B. , Gainsbourg verbalised... And Serge even held the (French) Money system in contempt, burning a high valued French Franc note in Public...
I do not think these gifted people as being crazy. Au contraire....

promezeus
16th November 2015, 21:50
To understand this, one must also understand what has been occurring in Syria and Iraq over the last couple of months. This especially so since the Russian forces have been involved in Syria, have backed the legitimate ruler and people of Syria. That they have been highly successful, the Russians, the Syrians and the others that have joined them in destroying ISIS bases,

So we see here in this "Cosmic Awareness" channeled disinfo program that we are being subtly given the meme that russia is on the opposite side, the supposed 'good' guy in this matter. But russia and china are also part of the problem, not the solution. In fact the brics bank is run by goldman sachs and this is just another bs savior program leading to global world domination of the illuminati under their proxy, the brics and UN.
Don't fall for it.

You were saying.....

Goldman Sachs is ditching its BRIC fund
http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-sachs-is-ditching-its-bric-fund-2015-11

:whistle:

running the brics bank and discontinuing a brics only stock investment fund have no relation whatsoever to each other.

Tangri
16th November 2015, 23:15
Today there was a Skype interview with a danish witness at CBC.

Witness said after escaping black dressed men's shooting, Police picked them from street and brought them to the crime scene. Even Main media person was surprised
"why police took you to the crime scene before they weren't sure it is safe?

He said they told us " Police were not sure if the perpetrator running on the street"

Isn't it bizarre this?


CBC did not put this interview to it's archive yet, if they do I will bring here.

Billy
16th November 2015, 23:48
This one got me. :bearhug:

http://www.konbini.com/en/lifestyle/you-will-not-get-my-hate-open-letter-husband-paris-attack-victim/



Among the collateral victims are the loved ones, the parents and the friends of those who lost their lives.

In an open letter published on Facebook, Antoine Leiris, a France Bleu journalist who lost his wife on Friday November 13 at the Bataclan, has responded to the terrorists.

We have translated the letter from the original, which was written in French:


“On Friday evening, you stole the life of an exceptional being, the love of my life, the mother of my son, but you will not get my hate. I do not know who you are and I do not want to know, you are dead souls. If this God for whom you blindly killed cast us in his own image, each bullet in the body of my wife will have been a wound to his heart.

“So no, I will not grant you the gift of hating you. You have certainly sought it but to respond to hate with anger would be to yield to the same ignorance that has made you what you are. You want me to be scared, that I look at my fellow citizens with a distrustful eye, that I sacrifice my freedom for security. You’ve lost. Same player, shoot again.

“I saw her this morning. Finally, after nights and days of waiting. She was just as beautiful as when she left on Friday evening, just as beautiful as when I fell madly in love with her more than twelve years ago. Of course I am devastated by grief, I will let you have this little victory, but it will be short victory. I know that she will be with us each day and that we will find one another in the heaven of free souls to which you will never have access.”

He concludes:

“We are two, my son and I, but we are stronger than all the armies of the world. However, I do not have any more time to dedicate to you, I have to go to Melvil who is waking up from his nap. He is barely 17 months old, he is going to eat his snack like every day, then we are going to play like every day and all of his life, this little boy will affront you by being happy and free. Because no, you will not get his hate either.”

TODD & NORA
17th November 2015, 00:05
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TODD & NORA
17th November 2015, 01:14
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TODD & NORA
17th November 2015, 01:23
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Flash
17th November 2015, 01:50
Please Sigma, when you do not understand a language, ask us, before spreading lies and misconceptions. In all logic, since when a president would say the illuminati did something - they do not even exist officially.

Here my comment on the video, telling the guy who posted it that he is stupid


Non, but I am dreaming: I am French speaking. Illuminé in this context in French means crazy, hallucinating crazies. If your ignorance of a foreign language is of course obvious, why don't you ask real French - and no, it does not mean englightened or illuminati, in this context it is hallucinating crazies. How stupid can you be to promulgate this. And English speaking people, why don't you trust us, speaking, to understand our own language - we trust you when it comes to English. Gosh, a story in a glass of water - excuse my French!!!!



... These guys can't even help let slip out the truth... French President let's slip it's the ILLUMINATI ...

ThePythonicCow
17th November 2015, 01:52
This article makes a good case that the French government was deeply involved in staging the Paris attacks, including murdering some of the "victims" after they had already safely left the Bataclan theater, and placing their dead bodies back in the theater, to add to the gore: Busted: Totally Proven Beyond All Doubt: The French Government Staged The Attacks (Jim Stone) (http://300spartans.com.au/news/guest/850152-busted-totally-proven-beyond-all-doubt-the-french-government-staged-the-attacks).

Admittedly, the article's author, Jim Stone, is more adept than most of us at exposing conspiracies, beyond my ability to validate from other sources sometimes. So caveat lector (reader beware.)

Here's a link to Jim Stone's own website, where this story is currently at or near the top of the first page. However Jim doesn't provide an easy way to link into or search for older stories, so this link will soon not be an easy way to find Jim's comments on the Paris attack: http://82.221.129.208/ifyouarinamericayouprobablycantseethisc5.html. Jim keeps updating his posts in place, so it's likely worth checking his own website, at least in the next few days, for more updates on this story.

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 01:53
There is a friendly soccer game tonight at Wembley stadium tonight Tuesday
between England and France that is still going ahead upto now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34129999

Public opinion in the UK is anti war and intervention unless we are directly
targeted , or we are aiding allies . The politicians have usually not taken
a lot of notice of public opinion as Blair showed in the 2nd Iraq war fiasco
which we are still waiting for the report on. This is why after the defeat in
Parliament last year that Cameron the first UK PM in decades has not been
able to send planes to Syria. Although special forces and drones are in
the region as we technically are still involved with Iraq. Cameron declined
taking another vote recently , because he would not win , then all of a
sudden the Paris attacks and I would not be surprised if we are attacked
here. But it has seemed to me the TPTB are desperate to get the UK involved,
not because of our planes as they are negligible compared to the US and others
in the region , but for political and ' darker reasons ' if you follow the clues
that greater forces are behind pulling the strings of the puppets on the stage ,
certainly on the western side. This is also why it would not be a surprise if
France pulled the NATO card as the US did after 9/11 to invade Afghanistan.
Which I think would negate the need for a vote ? This is speculation but we
will see what happens ?


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‘More money, more fighter jets’: Cameron to increase UK military budget to counter ISIS

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Published on 16 Nov 2015
UK Prime Minister David Cameron announced that the country’s military budget will be increased
to fight Islamic State. The UK may also unite its efforts with other countries. RT’s Eisa Ali has more.

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Jeremy Corbyn 'not happy' with shoot-to-kill policy

2 hours ago

short vid on link....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34832023

Jeremy Corbyn says he is "not happy" with UK police or security services
operating a "shoot-to-kill" policy in the event of a terror attack.

The Labour leader told the BBC such an approach could "often be counter-productive".

He also declined to answer what he called the "hypothetical question" of
whether he would ever back military intervention against extremists.

"I'm not saying I would or I wouldn't," he said.

read more....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34832023

ThePythonicCow
17th November 2015, 01:55
Today there was a Skype interview with a danish witness at CBC.

Witness said after escaping black dressed men's shooting, Police picked them from street and brought them to the crime scene. Even Main media person was surprised
"why police took you to the crime scene before they weren't sure it is safe?
This fits rather too well with Jim Stone's analysis, which I posted a link to, a few minutes ago, in Post #280 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86766-Paris-Attack-multiple-locations-132-dead-349-injured-17-remaining-in-critical-condition--13-Nov-2015-&p=1020278&viewfull=1#post1020278), above.

ThePythonicCow
17th November 2015, 02:42
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From CIA Director Brennan Met With French Security Chief Before Paris Attacks (Legitgov.org) (http://www.legitgov.org/CIA-Director-Brennan-Met-French-Security-Chief-Paris-Attacks-Report):

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CIA Director Brennan Met With French Security Chief Before Paris Attacks - Report
November 14, 2015 by legitgov

The White House correspondent for French television network Canal+, Laura Haim, reported an interesting tidbit during a live report with MSNBC's Brian Williams Friday evening. Haim stated that the Central Intelligence Agency director, John O. Brennan, recently met with his counterpart, French intelligence (DGSE) director Bernard Bajolet. The French equivalent of MI6 and CIA is the Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure.

See: CIA-GW Intelligence Conference: Panel on The Shared 21st Century International Mission (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su7InUwi3Hc) --GW Center for Cyber and Homeland Security 29 Oct 2015 Panel on "The Shared 21st Century International Mission" featuring CIA Director John Brennan, former UK MI6 Chief John Sawers, Director of the French Directorate for External Security Bernard Bajolet, and former Israeli National Security Advisor Yaacov Amidror.

Held as part of the 2nd Annual Ethos and Profession of Intelligence Conference, co-hosted by the Central Intelligence Agency and the George Washington University. Held on October 27, 2015.

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Thanks to Dahboo777 for first bringing this to my attention, in this Youtube video, which I first noticed at The Philosopher's Stone (http://www.philosophers-stone.co.uk/?p=5475):
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TODD & NORA
17th November 2015, 02:55
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Sophocles
17th November 2015, 03:06
Here`s another video (allegedly) from Balaclan (before the shooting starts) - posted friday 13. november by yt-user "Ciudad.com" (and who goes by the name of @bamfactory on twitter).

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About 7 hours ago @bamfactory tweeted (https://twitter.com/bamfactory) (it said 7h behind the comment, so I assume that means how long since posted)


#minutedesilence ce midi à l'hôpital Saint Louis... Énorme pensée aux victimes
(Which means "I`m at the Saint Louis hospital this afternoon...thoughts going out to the victims", or something like that)

4 hours later @bamfactory tweeted


I'm safe thank you very much !

(@bamfactory joined twitter in november 2010 and youtube in june 2013.)

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Dempsey: I know of Arab allies who fund ISIS

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I think it was Saudi-Arabia that offered to help out in the European refugee crisis -not by taking in refugees themselves- but by financing and building mosques in Germany (further spreading their wahhabi-version of Islam.)

waves
17th November 2015, 03:43
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Culture/Concert-review-The-Eagles-of-Death-Metal-408838
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Sophocles
17th November 2015, 04:03
Btw, Jesse "The Devil" Hughes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Hughes_%28musician%29) (pictured in post above) is the lead singer of the band Eagles of Death Metal. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagles_of_Death_Metal) On December 6, 2012 he became an ordained minister with the Universal Life Church. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Life_Church)

Shannon
17th November 2015, 04:11
We need to get to the bottom of this once and for all!!

Does anyone have any information/dialog coming from these terrorist groups? I seem to always be having a hard time finding anything coming directly from them. I’m very interested in hearing their reasoning. All I can find is claims from government officials and news outlets.

It’s very important to hear from all sides when tragedies like this happen. I don’t believe in the American policy of not giving “terrorists” a forum to speak. Why would you not want people who are capable of causing such harm and pain to explain their reasons for doing this?

I just can’t think of a logical reason for these happenings…other than to cause discord, but how does these terrorists benefit from that? We can easily see how certain governments will benefit from it. America is filled with people from all over the world and the excuse that “they just hate us” doesn’t bold well…it makes little sense. There are shop owners in my neighborhood that go back and forth to the middle East (Israel, Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt) all the time and their stories always seems to vary from what the Teli/news channel say. I reside in NYC, and calling this place the “world’s grand central station” is an understatement. No need to negotiate with terrorists but that shouldn’t mean that we shouldn’t hear them out. I want to know “why”… What’s to hide?

Peace

I agree....as a Fellow New Yorker, I too hear totally different stories and realities from people I know who go back and forth to the Middle East as well. These are (from what I can tell) hard working, part of the community, business owners who have families that are totally integrated into being American. Their wives are Dominican and not Muslim.

I can't find any quotes but just the msm saying that there's a direct threat from Isis to attack Washington, D.C. ... Which sounds ridiculous to me right now. This whole thing just doesn't seem right to me. Again. :/

Tyy1907
17th November 2015, 04:37
Damn straight get to the bottom of this. These lies and murders are just not gonna fly. I bet theyre already cooking up the next "terrorist" event keeping the "fear momentum" going.

As I type this a validation appears to me. This is all connected. The next thread over from this one is the "Fugitives/Refugees coming to Europe". Canada, the US, Europe all taking in Syrian refugees. Or according to some videos Syrian terrorists. Heck my wife is even paying attention to this now. Shes upset that we (Canadian govt) want to bring in Syrian refugees as the video she just watched claims theyre ALL terrorists. Then I started to see it. What better of a way to bring in martial law than this. Trying to "help" the Syrian people and uh oh **** some of them are terrorists wait bad idea, sorry people meanwhile martial law can take effect to keep us all "safe".
This is happening as we speak. Lets all keep talking bout this. Blowing it wide open. Not through the eyes of racism and fear but through neutrality and separating fact from fiction. With increased connectedness we will move forward. May the full untainted truth shine for all to see for closure for the victims families and us all.

triquetra
17th November 2015, 05:10
Humanity is now clearly divided into 2: Those who have lifted the veil of illusion and masquerade orchestrated by elites / the military industrial complex and by the so-called "shadow governement" and those still working at the top in terms of extraterrestrial civilizations or rather interdimensional and those who still have their perspective, their spirit, stuck in the "matrix", operating on a more limited perceptions frequency; still limited to the physical senses and reality shown by the system in place mental programming via television, media, education, etc.

Clearly those who "see through" right away and in real time, as if they were spectators of a staging of a play, and those who are completely caught up in the movie forgetting that they exist outside of this film and they can at any time get up from their seats and not follow where the film takes them jumping straight into the lion's wolf, and voluntarily, running in the open arms of their executioners.

This is the reason why - the acts can be messy and at this point, the majority is so captivated that the holes in the story cannot be noticed by them. The few are not enough to sway the popular opinion. It is not enough to simply speak out the truth at this point - alone it falls on deaf ears.

There is more we can do, but right now it is difficult to describe. There are effective methods for snapping people out of the spells they are in, but this isn't the time or place to go into describing them. What's really gone on behind the scenes of this particular event has been recorded, as promised, but that material is more useful for a long term strategy than any short term one.

The coordinated attempts to pry reality firmly away from the direction it was meant to take (what we are in is very far from it now) have attracted strange forces into this reality, and onto this planet.

The repercussions of causing this much distortion in the timeline are about to become very obvious. But for now, for the rest of this year perhaps, we are still in early stages, the seeds are still being sown.

Humanity cannot be divided into 2 for very much longer, it is terribly unnatural and makes a complete mockery of the intended soul development of the "lower half" who are in as completely artificial state of fear-induced hypnosis.

This is having an elastic effect and the tension in that "elastic band" is just about to snap backwards in the direction which was applying the pressure onto it, so to speak.

Delight
17th November 2015, 05:12
I hope that what I say here will sound like neutral ground.

IMO there is a juggernaut of three forces colliding: fundamentalsim, nationalism and rascism.

This clash is orchestrated but the zealots of these isms will be the way it is played. IMO, this state of the planet we have to neutralize for peace will mean we each have to refuse to be zealots. The cause may not be our own and when we get worked up, we seek for a quick answer that will explain it all...put things right and back to order.

The old world order.

IMO even the discussion on PA veers to US versus them in many discussions. The need to protect US from THEM is a forever war. Needing to find someone to blame in the zealot's hands can easily become extemist "wipe them out" solutions ON BOTH SIDES of any war.

from what I saw, there are too many many signs that this was globally orchestrated in order to strike fear (terrorism). More US versus THEM and the stakes grow.

As to the way it was deployed, I think what Jim Stone says about a police murder squad makes no sense. It did not need that complication as there was probably the shooting and IMO the detonation of bombs.

Fundamentalism is a religious zealot tide that seeks to make one's faith THE faith. MY religion has no room for any others. Zealots can be brain washed to unquestionably assume God wants blood and sacrifice. Kill them all, God will sort it out! Don't we this mind control evidence in other cases?

This is Piscean religions ultimate devolution...separation of man from the birthright of human reciprocity.


The Golden Rule or ethic of reciprocity is a moral maxim or principle which may appear as either a positive or negative injunction: One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself (positive or directive form).

Jews, Moslems, Christians have splintered like the head, the gut and the heart. Each is a rich religious and holy tradition of how one connects with God. The devolution in religion stated an intermediary could demand one work against reciprocity to please God.

Invoking knowing what God wants us to do is a great manipulatve tool. The religions purport to serve God and they war one another "with God on our side". To believe that God is on your side is Fundamentalism.

Priests use the bones of truth as scaffolding for the political house of cards. Religion is flimsy as it's politics and must have zealots to survive. Politics as described by running the city, county, state, nation blends with religion as a "reason for the laws". These are the secular priests. So all I have to say is about the metapolitics involved and how we identify those we come "against" just because they exist as their racial or religious guise. Political strategies of mind control can only utilize the beliefs we agree to hold.

The set up is clear IMO one that preys on belief in evil itself:
We do believe even if not religious that we are suspect by our very being. Thank the programming of paranoid ideas such as that man is bad, that nature is bad, that human emotion and lower impulses are dangerous. Thank the projection onto man that we are just beastly. In propitiation to be absolved form the threat of damnation, we give away our energy and allegiance. By identifying even worse sinners, we can sleep at night.

The one's who have control of the mind that believes, have the power. The priests are not the spiritual bones of religion. The message is repeated all the time while (because we are also convinced we sinners cannot BE that message) the words are soothing us asleep in church (unless the preaching is hot).

On Monday after Sunday or after prayers or after kneeling to Allah, the zealot is convinced he is saved. He is freed of the need to even consider how he behaves. In return, he will at the religion's leaders beckoning ACT against human interest in life liberty and happiness.

if it is a suicidal or homicidal request, there is justification of the other's evil. But what if we have set up EVERYONE's victimization as a rule. The justice will be served like a tennis ball back and forth. .

One nation fighting (in any forms) another nation needs a nationalistic allegence. Fears over the other side's aggression leads to defense. Terror has no borders. It is meant to make us want to shore up our borders and imprison ourselves. Racism becomes the face we plaster to describe the outside "enemy".

Maybe 2000 years ago or so (or not), the Jesus savior figure had a peace message "love God and one another". The Prophets may have been real hearers of God. By this, I mean consciousness. But what we see is "God's word where the devil then organizes it. The organizers are all FOR war.

So I think we need to focus on the holy aspects of all religions source..then look for the deep message of developing our spiritual wisening. The Christ brought the message that we will be capable of being Christs also and more.

It is now the end of the Piscean age where we harvest all we learned about "religion". Where do these ritual messages point us for a common root. Where do these ritual practices have a common root?

One is the reciprocity. The Golden Rule. The contrast of war could make us finally convinced we choose the Golden Rule?

Murder happens every day and IMO we need to become counter revolutionary by being overt celebrants of life...Make Love, Not War.

Could it be as simple as The Golden Rule? Treat one another as one would like to be treated. How would one like to be treated if one believed it was possible? I would like to be treated with respect, consideration, compassion, kindness and also allowed to be left alone to my own devices and to be myself. I think I would treat others just this way...any nationality, any race, any religion.

The new understanding for The AQUARIAN age is that each of us looking at another is looking at God. God and man are one. I serve God by loving man. God is in every eye. God is in every hand. God is affirmed or denied but never absent.

This triumverate of Abrahamic splinters could become a whole body? Prophets like Baha"ullah from the east had the most developed social teaching for peace.

triquetra
17th November 2015, 05:32
Delight raises another good point - when you apply abstract logic to our situation and its history, it's fine to set aside the finer details of how things came to be, in order to concentrate on the actual effects that our history had on global culture, especially with conflicted religions.

Whether or not the prophets existed as depicted is beside the point, the point is that in no case did any prophet write down the entire book about themselves and say "not a letter may be changed from what I've written". Quite to the contrary, the books written for the religions were things that were copied over and over again, and "enforced" with different approaches over the year, sometimes extremely aggressively and violently.

What we've found up with in all cases is incredible perversions of what any original prophet would have ever wanted for their prospective followers - a mashup of pat-on-the-back respectable values and terrifying constraints that "theirs is the one true religion" and so forth - things that were almost certainly added in after the fact as the religions became useful by what were essentially henchmen as tools of manipulation.

Where does ~2000+ years of ongoing religion-based manipulation lead us to? Right here - the timeline has been deviating for two millenia, if not even longer.

So we've really never had much of a chance - humanity was induced into a binary-like DNA structure and taught to think in black and white by pushing them into forms of language which were based on it - and taught to believe in religions that reinforced black and white thinking even further.

Then, the patterns of who thinks black or white about this or that can be manipulated like the bits of a computer - the entire global civilization becoming one big organic computer, running a kind of alternate simulation inside a simulation, to reach certain ends that could be predicted once you were studied enough in civilization theory to know how this whole sort of thing is supposed to work.

The first step in resisting all of this, of course, is to no longer allow yourself to be programmed. Once you question the very basis about how you think you know what you think you know, and ask yourself "am I a black and white thinker? do i take extremes in my opinions about things? - or even - do i insist on having to have opinions about everything in the first place? and do i hold stubbornly fixed on my opinions about things and never let anyone or anything sway them?" and so forth.

There is help from the "outside" (appropriately found on the "inside", within), but it can't pierce through a certain layer of fear-induced mental paralysis, or anything like that.

One thing that may begin to firmly turn the tides on this whole assault on the intended path of humanity's civilization is to reach a critical mass with this unflinching ability to maintain this "post-escape" mentality that is defiantly invulnerable to further entrapment via the mechanisms of fear.

It's going to take a lot of courage from a lot of people to be one of the one's strong enough to bridge this gap on their own, to be the early escapees who can then help others to do the same. I'd expect to find many of those people here.

This is the end game, friends, play your part well.

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 10:26
When a decent politician does manage to get thru the political spiders web of
mainstream parties , the knives are out to get him by the right wing and
other 'scare mongers' , even in his own party . Jeremy is constantly asked " Will
you press the button " and other shock questions designed to trip him up and make
him look weak and foolish. Luckily Jeremy is an old style political ' eco warrior ' and
will do his best to try and get some sort of decency and fairness back on the home
and world agenda if given the mandate.

Although different in ideology in many ways it would be a bit like Ron Paul
becoming leader of the Republicans in the US, and all the crap he would take from
corporate interests and bought congress members.

Which unfortunately most of the paid off mainstream puppets in the media and
political elites will do their best to keep the status quo of power and control that is
only an illusion in reality.

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‘A life is a life’: Corbyn accuses MSM of ignoring Beirut, Ankara attacks and focusing more on Paris

By David Icke on 17th November 2015 Political Manipulation, Problem-Reaction-Solution

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‘Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has criticized the mainstream media’s coverage of recent terrorist atrocities
in Lebanon and Turkey, arguing they “got hardly any publicity” compared with the Paris attacks.

Corbyn made clear he found the Paris attacks “appalling,” but urged the press to report as faithfully on
similar events outside Europe.He accused British media of under-playing the deadly attacks by Islamic
State (formerly ISIS/ISIL) on the Lebanese capital, Beirut, and the Turkish capital, Ankara.

Some 43 people were killed and hundreds wounded in two suicide bomb attacks in a residential area of
Beirut last Thursday, while explosions in Ankara last month killed 102 people and injured over 400.’

Read more: ‘A life is a life’: Corbyn accuses MSM of ignoring Beirut, Ankara attacks and

https://www.rt.com/uk/322332-corbyn-media-paris-terrorism/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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The Horrifying Terror Attack Last Week that You Aren’t Hearing About

By David Icke on 17th November 2015 Useless Media, War and Terror


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‘Reporting from Beirut, New York Times’ Anne Barnard has a piece titled, “Beirut,
Also the Site of Deadly Attacks, Feels Forgotten” out today. In the article she
details the double sucide-attack that took place in Lebanon on Thursday and killed
43 people. She contrasts the outpouring of support that Paris has received over the
past two days with the lack of solidarity being shown for Beirut.

The perception of being ignored has seemingly taken hold in Lebanon. She quotes
the blog of Elie Fares, a Lebanese doctor, who wrote, “When my people died, no
country bothered to light up its landmarks in the colors of their flag. When my
people died, they did not send the world into mourning. Their death was but an
irrelevant fleck along the international news cycle, something that happens in
THOSE parts of the world.”’

Read more: The Horrifying Terror Attack Last Week that You Aren’t Hearing About




http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/horrifying-terror-attack-last-week-you-arent-hearing-about

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 10:51
The timing is very suspicious a day after a little chat with Barack at the G 20.
It is possible to look at Russia and Putins actions over Syria as part of the PTB
geo - political plan that ' Power Blocks ' as in Orwells 'Big Bros'. So corporate
control can be maintained via competing military and other industrial complex.
Its easier to keep control and keep the global NWO that has developed over
the past century and is planed for the future if the reigns of power stay in the
hands of the few not the many. There are political elites in all countries including
Russia and China.
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A321 jet crash in Sinai was terrorist act - Putin

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Published on 17 Nov 2015


The Russian plane crash in Sinai, Egypt, was caused by a terrorist attack as traces
of explosives have been found in the wreckage of the plane, Federal Security Service
director Aleksandr Bortnikov told President Vladimir Putin.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wrd

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Putin & Obama hold talks on G20 sidelines

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Published on 15 Nov 2015


Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Barack Obama have held talks
on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Antalya, Turkey - READ MORE http://on.rt.com/6wlz


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Russia plane crash: 'Terror act' downed A321 over Egypt's Sinai


23 minutes ago

From the section Europe

Debris from Russian plane in Sinai, 1 Nov 15Image copyright EPA

Egyptian and Russian crash experts examined the debris in the Sinai desert

read more.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34840943

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Map of Egypt showing last radar contact of Flight KGL9268

idiit
17th November 2015, 11:09
WHAT ABOUT THE SYRIAN REFUGEES?


At least 129 people in Paris have died as a result of attacks on a soccer stadium, concert hall, as well as bars and restaurants. That number might rise since another 99 are believed to have been seriously injured, but as it stands, it falls short of what Syrians have faced on a day-to-day basis at the hands of a brutal regime and a ruthless terrorist organization.


According to conservative estimates, about 210,060 people have died in Syria since civil war engulfed the country four years ago. That means that an average of 144 people in Syria have died each day, at least half of them civilians.

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http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/11/syrian-refugee-puts-paris-attacks-into-perspective-in-one-simple-sentence/

isis is cia, mosad, Saudi.

isis is john McCain's army.


ISIS is ‘McCain’s Army’
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/11/21/team-america-isis-is-mccains-army/


WEDNESDAY, JUNE 3, 2015

ISIS and other atrocities "Made in the USA"
by
Jim Fetzer



The story in Washington, D.C., is that ISIS is known as "John McCain's Army", of which the Senator is proud:
"False Flag" attacks perpetrated by US government

http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2015/06/isis-and-other-atrocities-made-in-usa.html

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 11:26
( Some strong language ) Richie gives his observations over media reports...

Richie Allen On The Techniques Used By The MSM To Sell The Paris Attacks To A Gullible Public!

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Published on 16 Nov 2015

Please Support The Show – http://richieallen.co.uk/

transiten
17th November 2015, 11:28
WHAT ABOUT THE SYRIAN REFUGEES?

[QUOTE]At least 129 people in Paris have died as a result of attacks on a soccer stadium, concert hall, as well as bars and restaurants. That number might rise since another 99 are believed to have been seriously injured, but as it stands, it falls short of what Syrians have faced on a day-to-day basis at the hands of a brutal regime and a ruthless terrorist organization.


According to conservative estimates, about 210,060 people have died in Syria since civil war engulfed the country four years ago. That means that an average of 144 people in Syria have died each day, at least half of them civilians.


Throwing in some beauty in the midst of horror here:

transiten: 144 is the second Fibonacci series number i encounter on Avalon today. Made a comment as i ended up on page 144 in Surfing with Winds thread on Fibonacci and 144; a nr misunderstood/perverted by Jehova's Witnesses, although their chosen ones are 144.000. Synchronicities accelerate in tense times.
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Still got problems with quoting, brackets, images:confused:

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 11:31
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Paris attacks: France mobilises 115,000 security personnel

17 minutes ago


France has mobilised 115,000 security personnel in the wake of Friday's Paris
attacks by Islamist militants, Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve has said.

Mr Cazeneuve said 128 more raids on suspected militants were carried out.
French air strikes also hit Islamic State in Syria overnight.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34840699

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Massive anti-terror raids in France, Belgium follow Paris attacks, dozens arrested

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Published on 16 Nov 2015

Anti-terrorist raids are currently underway across France, authorities said. The
operations come following Friday’s co-ordinated attacks by jihadists in Paris that
killed more than 120 people and left hundreds injured.
READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wn8

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US sends more weapons to militants in Syria: Report

By David Icke on 17th November 2015 War and Terror

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PRESS TV....

‘The US military has reportedly delivered a new consignment of weapons and
ammunition to a group of militants fighting against the Syrian government.

The weapons were delivered by land to the so-called Syrian Arab Coalition which
Washington regards as a “moderate rebel group,” a US official, speaking on
condition of anonymity, told the Reuters news agency on Sunday.

The official did not say who transported the ammunition into Syria but added that
US troops did not drive them into Syria.’

Read more: US sends more weapons to militants in Syria: Report

http://presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/16/437808/US-weapons-militants-Syria

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the story with that Syrian passport?

By David Icke on 17th November 2015 Problem-Reaction-Solution


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Remember This Blog’s article about the Syrian passport that turned up, unharmed,
near the dead body of a terrorist involved in the Paris attacks on November 13?

Well, here’s Telegraph reporter Matthew Holehouse:

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http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/11/17/all-terrorists-in-paris-attacks-were-from-eu-so-whats-the-story-with-that-syrian-passport/

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 11:52
France Has a Powerful and Controversial New Surveillance Law

By David Icke on 17th November 2015 Big Brother

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‘As it plans its response to a series of six terrorist attacks Friday night that killed
129 and injured 352, the government of France will likely step up its efforts to
keep tabs on the movements and communications of people within its borders.

As it happens, the attacks have occurred only a few months after legislators in
that country passed a sweeping new surveillance law that gives the government
broad powers to closely monitor the mobile phone and Internet communications
of French citizens.Passed by the French Parliament in May in response to the
attacks on the Paris-based magazine Charlie Hebdo, the law allows the government
to monitor phone calls and emails of people suspected of connections to terrorism
without the authorization of a judge.’

Read more: France Has a Powerful and Controversial New Surveillance Law

http://recode.net/2015/11/14/france-has-a-powerful-and-controversial-new-surveillance-law/
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France to limit U.N. climate summit to core talks and ban rallies

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

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Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:48am EST
Related: World, Environment, Global Energy News

France to limit U.N. climate summit to core talks, ban rallies: PM

PARIS | By John Irish

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‘France will limit a U.N. climate summit in Paris starting in two weeks’ time to core
negotiations and cancel planned marches and concerts after the attacks that killed
129 people, Prime Minister Manuel Valls said on Monday.

He said no foreign leaders had asked France to postpone the Nov 30-Dec 11 summit,
which aims to map out a global accord to limit greenhouse gas emissions, a move
which would amount to “abdicating to the terrorists”.

But he told RTL radio that “a series of demonstrations planned will not take place and
it will be reduced to the negotiations … a lot of concerts and festivities will be canceled.”‘

Read more: France to limit U.N. climate summit to core talks and ban rallies

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/16/us-france-shooting-climatechange-idUSKCN0T517320151116#pJgz3K7BIrg3idRH.97

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UK law mandates software backdoors and jail for disclosing vulnerability

By David Icke on 17th November 2015 Big Brother, Political Manipulation

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UK law mandates software backdoors, jail for disclosing vulnerability

By Graham Templeton on November 13, 2015 at 12:15 pm




‘It’s the hottest trend in spooking: Take law-abiding citizens, usually
business owners, and use the justice system to compel them into being your
enthusiastic deputies. People pitch in by opening their doors, both physically
and digitally, so the government can make use of any supposedly private user
data they might have. The seeming enthusiasm of the collaboration comes from
the fact that these same orders make it a crime to reveal the collaboration, so
service providers must also actively deceive their own users about the true level
of privacy they provide.

Now the UK is getting in on the action, as it’s been revealed that under the upcoming
Investigatory Powers Bill it will have the ability to order companies to build software
“backdoors” into their products, and revealing that collaboration could result in up to
a year in prison. More than that, the government is also empowering itself to enlist
the services of talented individuals like hackers, and to also legally restrain these
people from revealing the work they’ve done — even in open court. In the US, these
orders are called as National Security Letters (NSLs), and they have come to be
routinely served to everyone from a small business owners to major corporate executives.’

Read more: UK law mandates software backdoors and jail for disclosing vulnerability

http://www.extremetech.com/internet/217798-uk-law-mandates-software-backdoors-jail-for-disclosing-vulnerability


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By David Icke on 17th November 2015

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Sophocles
17th November 2015, 12:04
Dave Hodges touches on the refugee issue on The Hagmann Report 10/29/15 (at the beginning):

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What`s really concerning to me is that the eliters of the Western nations are oblivious to the dangers that they`re bringing to their people.

PurpleLama
17th November 2015, 12:08
Cui bono?


NATO Article 4 calls for members to “consult together whenever, in the opinion of any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence, or security of any” is threatened.

Article 5 considers an armed attack (real or otherwise) against one or more members, an attack against all. Collective self-defense is called for – perhaps in the wake of the Paris incident all-out war on humanity, risking global escalation if confrontation is provoked with Russia or China.
Unleashing US-led NATO’s killing machine could become the war to end all wars, risking world peace and humanity’s survival.
Republican presidential aspirant Marco Rubio called for “invok(ing) (NATO’s) Article 5,” requiring all 28 Alliance nations to defend a member under (alleged) attack.
On ABC’s Sunday morning program, Rubio lied, calling what happened in Paris “an act of war and an attack on one of our NATO allies, and we should invoke Article 5 of the NATO agreement, and bring everyone together to put together a coalition to confront this challenge.”
His rant followed French President Francois Hollande calling the incident “an act of war,” automatically blaming ISIS despite no evidence proving it.
Fellow presidential aspirant Jeb Bush on CNN Sunday urged “conven(ing) the North Atlantic Council to discuss” invoking Article 5, adding:
“If that’s what the French want, then, our longest and strongest and most loyal ally over our entire history, we should certainly consider it.”
The only previous time Article 5 was invoked was after the 9/11 attacks.
Bush called the Paris incident “a threat to western civilization, and we should consider it that way.”
Obama’s deputy national security advisor Ben Rhodes called what happened “an act of war,” a clear indication of what’s coming. NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said member states are ready to assist France.
“We stand strong and united in the fight against terrorism,” he blustered, a near declaration of all-out war.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/collective-self-defense-against-isis-politicians-in-washington-want-nato-article-5-invoked-for-total-war/5489391

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 12:18
There are a lot of related articles on the headline page today, some
may have already been posted or referred to in previous posts.....

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Paris Attacks Committed by Israeli Intelligence Services: Ken O’Keefe

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

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Ken’s interview commences at the 5:15 mark


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French Jews Warned Friday Morning of ‘Impending Large Terrorist Attack’

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

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‘Intelligence in the lead-up to Friday evening’s terrorist attacks in Paris was
not nearly so scarce as had initially been indicated, and several nations,
including Iraq and Israel, appear to have been passing France intelligence
on the matter in the days leading up to the attack.

According to the Times of Israel, French Jewish security officials were informed
of an “impending large terrorist attack” in France on Friday morning, There was
considerable speculation in the lead-up that France’s Jewish community would
be among the targets.’

Read more: French Jews Warned Friday Morning of ‘Impending Large Terrorist Attack’

http://news.antiwar.com/2015/11/15/french-jews-warned-friday-morning-of-impending-large-terrorist-attack/

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Flashback November 2014 – Palestinian state recognition will be a ‘grave mistake’, Netanyahu warns France

By David Icke on 17th November 2015 War and Terror

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RT NEWS......

Palestinian state recognition will be a ‘grave mistake’, Netanyahu warns France

Published time: 23 Nov, 2014 23:51
Edited time: 25 Nov, 2014 11:59

Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu has warned it would be a “grave mistake” for the
French parliament to follow the suit of several other European nations in recognizing
a Palestinian state in a vote scheduled early December.

“Recognition of a Palestinian state by France would be a grave mistake,” Netanyahu
told reporters in Jerusalem. “Do they have nothing better to do at a time of beheadings
across the Middle East, including that of a French citizen?” apparently referring to
Herve Gourdelexecutedby Algerian jihadists in September.

“The State of Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people, the only state that we have,
and the Palestinians demanding a state do not want to recognize the right to have a
state for the Jewish people,” Netanyahu added.’

Read more: Flashback November 2014 – Palestinian state recognition will be a ‘grave
mistake’, Netanyahu warns France

https://www.rt.com/news/208187-israel-france-grave-mistake/

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Al-Baghdadi ordered attack on anti-ISIS coalition, Iraq warned France one day before Paris carnage

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

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RT NEWS .......

Al-Baghdadi ordered attack on anti-ISIS coalition, Iraq warned France 1 day before Paris carnage

Published time: 16 Nov, 2015 13:24

A dispatch sent by Iraqi officials and obtained by AP shows that Baghdad warned members
of the US-led coalition battling ISIS of imminent attacks by the group just one day before the
Paris terror attacks killed 129 people and wounded 352 others.

Iraqi intelligence sent a dispatch saying that Islamic State (formerly ISIS/ISIL) leader Abu
Bakr al-Baghdadi had ordered an attack on coalition countries fighting against the group
in Iraq and Syria, as well as on Iran and Russia, through bombings or other attacks,
according to the message.’

Read more: Al-Baghdadi ordered attack on anti-ISIS coalition, Iraq warned France one
day before Paris carnage

https://www.rt.com/news/322290-iraq-intelligence-paris-attacks/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome
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THE JERUSALAM POST.....

Far-right settler rabbi: Paris attacks are payback for the Holocaust

The quote from Dov Lior, the chief rabbi of the Israeli settlement of Kiryat Arba,
was first reported by the Walla! news agency.

http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=250084&h=530&w=758

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Far-right-settler-rabbi-Paris-attacks-are-payback-for-the-Holocaust-433084

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Beaten badly by israelis in Australia - Max Igan Assaulted

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Published on 15 Nov 2015


Shortly after speaking at a Freedom Summit Peace Conference, Max Igan
Australian researcher was followed afterwards and was bashed, beaten up
and threatened by israeli Sayanim. Telling him to keep his mouth shut.

This is happening now in Australia. Israeli terrorists walking the streets of
Oz with impunity.Please support Max Igan and send him a message of support.

Israel are obviously now getting desperate because the world is seeing
them for the monsters they really are.

Check out Maxs' website:

http://thecrowhouse.com

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 12:29
Quite right PurpleLama.....


Cui bono?

TPTB are desperate to get the NATO umbrella involved in this fabricated
'war on terror ' . So as to bypass the majority of the European public who
are war weary and fed up with mainstream BS , but will inevitably be
forced to co operate with the agenda one way or another....


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‘Collective Self-Defense’ against ISIS: Politicians in Washington Want NATO Article 5 Invoked for Total War

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

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“Collective Self-Defense” against ISIS: Politicians in Washington Want NATO Article 5 Invoked for Total War

By Stephen Lendman

Global Research, November 17, 2015



‘NATO Article 4 calls for members to “consult together whenever, in the opinion of
any of them, the territorial integrity, political independence, or security of any” is
threatened.

Article 5 considers an armed attack (real or otherwise) against one or more
members, an attack against all. Collective self-defense is called for – perhaps in the
wake of the Paris incident all-out war on humanity, risking global escalation if
confrontation is provoked with Russia or China.

Unleashing US-led NATO’s killing machine could become the war to end all wars,
risking world peace and humanity’s survival.

Republican presidential aspirant Marco Rubio called for “invok(ing) (NATO’s) Article
5,” requiring all 28 Alliance nations to defend a member under (alleged) attack.’

On ABC’s Sunday morning program, Rubio lied, calling what happened in Paris “an
act of war and an attack on one of our NATO allies, and we should invoke Article 5
of the NATO agreement, and bring everyone together to put together a coalition to
confront this challenge.”

His rant followed French President Francois Hollande calling the incident “an act of
war,” automatically blaming ISIS despite no evidence proving it.Fellow presidential
aspirant Jeb Bush on CNN Sunday urged “conven(ing) the North Atlantic Council to
discuss” invoking Article 5, adding:

“If that’s what the French want, then, our longest and strongest and most loyal ally
over our entire history, we should certainly consider it.”

The only previous time Article 5 was invoked was after the 9/11 attacks.

Bush called the Paris incident “a threat to western civilization, and we should
consider it that way.”

Obama’s deputy national security advisor Ben Rhodes called what happened “an act
of war,” a clear indication of what’s coming. NATO Secretary-General Jens
Stoltenberg said member states are ready to assist France.

“We stand strong and united in the fight against terrorism,” he blustered, a near
declaration of all-out war.

Former NATO commander, retired Admiral James Stavridis, wrote a Council on
Foreign Relations (CFR) controlled Foreign Policy op-ed, calling the Paris attacks “an
act of war…waged by a terrorist army, a jihadist army, by Daesh, against France…”

“The Islamic State is an apocalyptic organization overdue for eradication,” he
ranted – ignoring his full knowledge of it being a US creation, used as proxy foot soldiers.

Netanyahu took full advantage of the Paris incident, saying “(t)he time has come
for countries to condemn terrorism against us to the same degree that they
condemn terrorism everywhere else in the world.”

“The terrorists who attack us have the same murderous intent as those in Paris” –
ignoring his all-out terror war on Palestine and possible complicity with almost
certain state-sponsored terrorism against Parisian civilians.

Israeli defense minister Moshe Ya’alon blustered: “This must be a time of
reckoning,” suggesting the worst to come against Palestinian civilians, defenseless
against Israel’s rampaging killing machine.

New York Times editors headlined “What Will Come After Paris,” saying Friday Paris
attacks “along with twin bombings in Beirut on the day before and the downing of a
Russian jetliner over the Sinai Peninsula on Oct. 31, show a new phase in the
Islamic State’s war against the West, a readiness to strike far beyond areas it
controls in Iraq, Syria, and increasingly, Libya.”

“The challenge for threatened countries is huge,” Times editors barely stopping
short of urging greater US-led war on humanity than already – never explaining
ISIS is a US creation, used to wage war on Syria, Iraq and other targeted
countries, heading for Russia if not stopped.

“France must take measures to protect its citizens, as must the United States” and
other countries, Times editors blustered, ignoring what’s most important to explain
to readers.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago. He can be reached at
lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

His new book as editor and contributor is titled “Flashpoint in Ukraine: US Drive for
Hegemony Risks WW III.”
http://www.claritypress.com/LendmanIII.html
Visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com.

Listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive
Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network.
It airs three times weekly: live on Sundays at 1PM Central time plus two
prerecorded archived programs.

The original source of this article is Global Research
Copyright © Stephen Lendman, Global Research, 2015

Read more: ‘Collective Self-Defense’ against ISIS: Politicians in Washington Want
NATO Article 5 Invoked for Total War

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Washington Refines Its False Flag Operations

By David Icke on 17th November 2015


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Washington Refines Its False Flag Operations — Paul Craig Roberts


November 16, 2015 | Categories: Articles & Columns | Tags:

Washington Refines Its False Flag Operations

Paul Craig Roberts

‘Washington and its French vassal have refined how they conduct their false flag
operations. With the Charlie Hebdo operation, they knew to immediately set the
story in stone in order to avoid any questions from the print and TV media and in
order to use the set story to take the place of an investigation.

The set story made it unnecessary to explain the mysterious “suicide” of one of the
main police investigators while engaged in the investigation of the event. The set
story also made it unnecessary to explain why it was necessary to kill rather than
capture the alleged perpetrators, or to explain how the French authorities could be
so wrong about the alleged get-away-driver but not about the two gunmen. There
has been no explanation why the authorities believed there was a get-away-driver,
and no such driver has been captured or killed. Indeed, there are many
unanswered questions of no interest to any media except the alternative Internet media.

What the US and France learned from the Charlie Hebdo skepticism on the Internet
is to keep the story flowing. Charlie Hebdo involved two scenes of violence, and the
connection between the two acts of terrorism was vague. This time there were
several scenes of violence, and they were better connected in the story.’

Read more: Washington Refines Its False Flag Operations

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Paris attack witness says white, clean shaven, professional gunmen in black
Mercedes massacred diners

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

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“He fired lots of bullets. He was white, clean shaven and had dark hair neatly
trimmed. He was dressed all in black accept for a red scarf.

“The shooter was aged about 35 and had an extremely muscular build, which you
could tell from the size of his arms. He looked like a weightlifter.

“He was not wearing gloves and his face was expressionless as he walked towards the bar…

…”I would describe him as tall, with dark hair and also quite muscular.

“They looked like soldiers or mercenaries and carried the whole thing out like a
military operation. It was clear that they were both very heavily armed and the
gunman was carrying several magazines on him.’

Read more: Paris attack witness says white, clean shaven, professional gunmen in
black Mercedes massacred diners

http://www.sott.net/article/306526-Paris-attack-witness-says-white-clean-shaven-professional-gunmen-in-black-Mercedes-massacred-diners

idiit
17th November 2015, 13:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EW1-EDevQ

watch the short vid. about as real as sandy hook.

carefully review jim stone's excellent article.

STAGED.

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 13:21
SURPRISE , SIR ' BLOODY ' SURPRISE ..........NOT !!

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PM: We must do more on IS in Syria

2 minutes ago

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David Cameron has said he will set out a "comprehensive strategy" for
military action against the Islamic State group in Syria as well as Iraq.

The prime minister told the Commons the Paris attacks had strengthened
the case for tackling IS on its home ground.

An "important first step" would be setting out the case in a personal
response to a recent report by the Foreign Affairs Committee, he said.

MPs rejected possible air strikes in Syria in a 2013 Commons vote.

In a vote last September, Parliament backed British participation in air
strikes against IS extremists in Iraq.

Addressing the Commons on Tuesday, Mr Cameron said that British planes
had attacked 350 targets in Iraq and offered support to allies' action over Syria.

But he said Islamic State - also known as Isis, Isil or Daesh - did not recognise
or respect the border between the two countries.


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Sinai 7K9268 jet downed by foreign-made bomb, $50mln for info – FSB

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Published on 17 Nov 2015
The Russian plane crash in Sinai, Egypt, was caused by a terrorist attack as traces of
explosives have been found in the wreckage of the plane, Federal Security Service
director Aleksandr Bortnikov told President Vladimir Putin.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wrd

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‘War against ISIS’: Anonymous promises revenge for A321 Sinai crash

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Published on 17 Nov 2015


Members of the Anonymous hacker group are promising revenge for the Russian plane disaster.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wn1

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 14:31
US and Turkey launch operation to take entire border with Syria under control – Kerry

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

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Picture originally posted on Davidicke.com earlier this year


US, Turkey launch operation to take entire border with Syria under control – Kerry
Published time: 17 Nov, 2015 13:35
Edited time: 17 Nov, 2015 14:08


‘The US and Turkey intend to shut off Turkey’s border with Syria in a joint military
operation, US Secretary of State John Kerry said.

The entire border of northern Syria – 75 percent of it has now been shut off. And
we are entering an operation with the Turks to shut off the other remaining
98 kilometers,” Kerry said in an interview with CNN.

The northern part of Syria along the border with Turkey has long been contested
between Kurd militias and fighters of the terrorist group Islamic State (IS). The
US previously voiced its intention to train and arm a moderate Syrian force that
would take control over the area and defend it from IS, preventing the smuggling
of fighters, arms and other goods across the border.

Kerry mentioned the operation with Turkey as he described to CNN the mounting
pressure on IS in both Syria and Iraq, but wouldn’t elaborate on what it amounted
to and whether the US would send ground troops to take part in the operation.
US President Barack Obama authorized the deployment of special forces against
IS in an apparent deviation from an initial pledge not to have boots on the ground in the campaign.’

https://www.rt.com/usa/322428-turkey-us-syria-kerry/


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Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 14:45
TIMING !! Massive Global PR Theatre Oppertunity or Coincidence ?

Will the public wake up ?

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Prince William and David Cameron will greet the over paid ' Tributes' ..

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LiveParis attacks: Latest updates

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Key Points

French police stage 128 new raids, a day after arresting 23 people

At least 115,000 police and army personnel are mobilised to provide security across France

President Francois Hollande has vowed to destroy Islamic State, saying it cannot be contained

A huge manhunt is still under way for one of the suspected attackers believed to have fled to his native Belgium

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Security checks ahead of England v France game

Posted at 14:25


UK Prime Minister David Cameron has confirmed he will join the Duke of Cambridge
at Wembley Stadium for the England v France football match on Tuesday evening.

Armed officers will be deployed at the international friendly, while England fans
have been encouraged to sing the French national anthem before kick off.

Police officers search the area outside Wembley Stadium
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Heavily armed police during a recent training exercise in London Picture: Jeremy Selwyn

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Hervé
17th November 2015, 15:09
All right... le' me try to put it together:


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Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 15:19
This is for all of us I have posted Robin Cooks quote many times and Morning Fox
pointed out in the thread below that's it was not right and the correct version
is the one below it. Just for future ref .......

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Post # 47

Great thread but I'm afraid this image that has been posted multiple times is wholly
incorrect. This isn't a quote made by Robin Cook at all, you only have to look at the
appalling grammar and spelling to know that, but if you dig a little deeper you'll see
he said nothing of the sort. Here's what he actually wrote.

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We really must be prudent with what we share, as the highly valuable message
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Post # 48 ... ...My Response

Thanks Morning Fox for pointing that out.

This seems to be the equivalent part of the speech from the article.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jul/08/july7.development


Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies.
Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against
the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the
computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from
the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears
to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation
would turn its attention to the west.

This is the one to use by the looks of it....

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In his speech he gives good reasons why the invasion of Iraq is wrong , and
criticizes the double standard applied to Iraq and Israel....No mention of Bin Laden
in this one but a good speech.....

Robin Cook's Resignation Speech (in full)

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There is a global research article that covers similar ground...

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Al Qaeda: The Database

By Pierre-Henri Bunel

Global Research, September 04, 2015

Wayne Madsen Report and Global Research 20 November 2005

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Global Research Editor’s Note

This article originally published by Global Research in 2005 sheds light on the
nature of Al Qaeda, an intelligence construct used by Washington to destabilize and
destroy sovereign countries, while sustaining the illusion of an outside enemy,
which threatens the security of the Western World.

In recent developments, the Obama administration has intimated that it will be
supporting “moderate al Qaeda rebels” in Syria in its “counter-terrorism” campaign
(i.e. bombing raids) allegedly against the ISIS, formerly known as al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI).

Al Qaeda goes after Al Qaeda? The fact of the matter is that both al Nusra and the
Islamic State (ISIS) are supported by Washington and its allies.

September 4, 2015

* * *

Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told
the House of Commons that “Al Qaeda” is not really a terrorist group but a
database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and
Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan.
Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an
important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former
agent for French military intelligence.

“I first heard about Al-Qaida while I was attending the Command and Staff course
in Jordan. I was a French officer at that time and the French Armed Forces had
close contacts and cooperation with Jordan . . .

“Two of my Jordanian colleagues were experts in computers. They were air defense
officers. Using computer science slang, they introduced a series of jokes about
students’ punishment.

“For example, when one of us was late at the bus stop to leave the Staff College,
the two officers used to tell us: ‘You’ll be noted in ‘Q eidat il-Maaloomaat’ which
meant ‘You’ll be logged in the information database.’ Meaning ‘You will receive a
warning . . .’ If the case was more severe, they would used to talk about ‘Q eidat
i-Taaleemaat.’ Meaning ‘the decision database.’ It meant ‘you will be punished.’ For
the worst cases they used to speak of logging in ‘Al Qaida.’

“In the early 1980s the Islamic Bank for Development, which is located in Jeddah,
Saudi Arabia, like the Permanent Secretariat of the Islamic Conference
Organization, bought a new computerized system to cope with its accounting and
communication requirements. At the time the system was more sophisticated than
necessary for their actual needs.

“It was decided to use a part of the system’s memory to host the Islamic
Conference’s database. It was possible for the countries attending to access the
database by telephone: an Intranet, in modern language. The governments of the
member-countries as well as some of their embassies in the world were connected
to that network.

“[According to a Pakistani major] the database was divided into two parts, the
information file where the participants in the meetings could pick up and send
information they needed, and the decision file where the decisions made during the
previous sessions were recorded and stored. In Arabic, the files were called, ‘Q
eidat il-Maaloomaat’ and ‘Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.’ Those two files were kept in one
file called in Arabic ‘Q eidat ilmu’ti’aat’ which is the exact translation of the English
word database. But the Arabs commonly used the short word Al Qaida which is the
Arabic word for “base.” The military air base of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia is called ‘q
eidat ‘riyadh al ‘askariya.’ Q eida means “a base” and “Al Qaida” means “the base.”

“In the mid-1980s, Al Qaida was a database located in computer and dedicated to
the communications of the Islamic Conference’s secretariat.

“In the early 1990s, I was a military intelligence officer in the Headquarters of the
French Rapid Action Force. Because of my skills in Arabic my job was also to
translate a lot of faxes and letters seized or intercepted by our intelligence
services . . . We often got intercepted material sent by Islamic networks operating
from the UK or from Belgium.

“These documents contained directions sent to Islamic armed groups in Algeria or
in France. The messages quoted the sources of statements to be exploited in the
redaction of the tracts or leaflets, or to be introduced in video or tapes to be sent to
the media. The most commonly quoted sources were the United Nations, the non-
aligned countries, the UNHCR and . . . Al Qaida.

“Al Qaida remained the data base of the Islamic Conference. Not all member
countries of the Islamic Conference are ‘rogue states’ and many Islamic groups
could pick up information from the databases. It was but natural for Osama Bin
Laden to be connected to this network. He is a member of an important family in
the banking and business world.

“Because of the presence of ‘rogue states,’ it became easy for terrorist groups to
use the email of the database. Hence, the email of Al Qaida was used, with some
interface system, providing secrecy, for the families of the mujaheddin to keep links
with their children undergoing training in Afghanistan, or in Libya or in the Beqaa
valley, Lebanon. Or in action anywhere in the battlefields where the extremists
sponsored by all the ‘rogue states’ used to fight. And the ‘rogue states’ included
Saudi Arabia. When Osama bin Laden was an American agent in Afghanistan, the Al
Qaida Intranet was a good communication system through coded or covert
messages.

Meet “Al Qaeda”

“Al Qaida was neither a terrorist group nor Osama bin Laden’s personal
property . . . The terrorist actions in Turkey in 2003 were carried out by Turks and
the motives were local and not international, unified, or joint. These crimes put the
Turkish government in a difficult position vis-a-vis the British and the Israelis. But
the attacks certainly intended to ‘punish’ Prime Minister Erdogan for being a ‘toot
tepid’ Islamic politician.

” . . . In the Third World the general opinion is that the countries using weapons of
mass destruction for economic purposes in the service of imperialism are in
fact ‘rogue states,” specially the US and other NATO countries.

” Some Islamic economic lobbies are conducting a war against the ‘liberal”
economic lobbies. They use local terrorist groups claiming to act on behalf of Al
Qaida. On the other hand, national armies invade independent countries under the
aegis of the UN Security Council and carry out pre-emptive wars. And the real
sponsors of these wars are not governments but the lobbies concealed behind them.

“The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any
informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to
make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing
the ‘devil’ only in order to drive the ‘TV watcher’ to accept a unified international
leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the
US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making
money.”

In yet another example of what happens to those who challenge the system, in
December 2001, Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel was convicted by a secret French military
court of passing classified documents that identified potential NATO bombing
targets in Serbia to a Serbian agent during the Kosovo war in 1998. Bunel’s case
was transferred from a civilian court to keep the details of the case classified.
Bunel’s character witnesses and psychologists notwithstanding, the system “got
him” for telling the truth about Al Qaeda and who has actually been behind the
terrorist attacks commonly blamed on that group.

It is noteworthy that that Yugoslav government, the government with whom Bunel
was asserted by the French government to have shared information, claimed that
Albanian and Bosnian guerrillas in the Balkans were being backed by elements
of “Al Qaeda.” We now know that these guerrillas were being backed by money
provided by the Bosnian Defense Fund, an entity established as a special fund at
Bush-influenced Riggs Bank and directed by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.

French officer Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel, who knew the truth about “Al Qaeda” — Another target of the neo-cons.


Copyright © Pierre-Henri Bunel, Wayne Madsen Report and Global Research, 2015

http://www.globalresearch.ca/al-qaeda-the-database-2/24738

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I posted and re watched this earlier on another thread , and it is a very good look
at the whole 'fantascy psyop' which is the war on terror and some of Bin Ladens
and others part in it.

The Power of Nightmares The Rise of the Politics of Fear 2004 Season 1 Episode 3

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Speculate quote , though probably true...

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Aurvandil
17th November 2015, 15:41
So - is it time for an even bigger sacrifice?

Cameron answered the following when asked if he would take his children with him to the football game tonight, confirming that "life must go on":


“Yes I would. I think it’s very important that we carry on with our lives. What these terrorists want to do is to change our way of life and to destroy our way of life. Yes we should be vigilant, and in a free society you can never have 100% security. But in a free society you also have the people and the police working together to keep us safe. So remember that, but remember that our freedom depends on us showing resolve and carrying on our way of life – which is precisely what we ought to do.”

Source (http://www.news7ng.com/2015/11/paris-attacks-david-cameron-prince-williams-to-attend-england-vs-france-game-tonight/)

How dare the Secret Service allow Prince William attend - but of course, if something "happened" it will "confirm" the threat. Just imagine - an event leaving UK without a prime minister and a royal (and loved) heir. That would surely spark the start of the war. Hollande just barely escaping injury could just be a build-up to something else.

And pray tell me, what does the police think they would find in the bushes which they so eagerly examine? A possible bomb wouldn´t be hidden in a bush, rather be carried by one or several suicide bombers. What sort of measures has been taken to "prevent" that?

I am just writing this to jinx the plans... :(

Hervé
17th November 2015, 15:46
All for one: 28 EU states agree on first-ever military support to France (https://www.rt.com/news/322429-france-military-assistance-eu/)

Published time: 17 Nov, 2015 13:38
Edited time: 17 Nov, 2015 13:43



https://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.11/original/564b0dcec4618807148b45a7.jpg

The flags of France and the EU fly at half staff in response to attacks in Paris, outside of the French consulate in New York November 14, 2015. © Lucas Jackson / Reuters




France has invoked an EU treaty collective defense article requesting military help from its European partners in response to the terror attacks in Paris. EU officials say the mutual defense article is being used for the first time.

The assistance would come from 28 European partners under Article 42.7 of the EU’s Lisbon Treaty, which outlines mutual defense among the EU members. Called the ‘mutual defense clause’, the Article (http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/sede/dv/sede200612mutualdefsolidarityclauses_/sede200612mutualdefsolidarityclauses_en.pdf) reads that if any EU country “is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.”


https://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.11/thumbnail/5649f99fc36188a1028b45c3.jpg (https://www.rt.com/news/322323-hollande-france-war-terror/)
‘France is at war’: Hollande urges more security spending & stripping of citizenship after attacks (https://www.rt.com/news/322323-hollande-france-war-terror/)


Speaking at a press conference in Brussels on Tuesday, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said all 28 EU member states unanimously accepted France's formal call for “aid and assistance” under the EU treaty and he expected all to help quickly in various regions, Reuters reports.

Full article: https://www.rt.com/news/322429-france-military-assistance-eu/

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 15:52
All for one: 28 EU states agree on first-ever military support to France

Again this looks like one of the main goals of this event....As well
as bringing Russia back into the fold without the US loosing face.

" Oh these ancient games of thrones continue into the 21st century " !!


This is appropriate at the home of one of those players.............


Game of Thrones theme song played by the Queen's guards

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This was a real attack with tragedies , whatever other agendas were 'masked'
behind and are being wheeled out....


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Paris attacks: Doctor on 'feeling of war' in A&E

2 hours ago

Short vid on link.....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34837572

An emergency doctor who helped the injured in the Paris attacks on Friday said
there was "a feeling of war" as victims arrived at the hospital.

Dr Phillipe Juvin, who is head of emergency services at The Hôpital Européen
Georges-Pompidou, said the hospital received about 50 patients, with 15 to 20 so
severely injured they went to intensive care.

Dr Juvin told 5 live Drive's Anna Foster the patients' shock was such that they were
mostly silent. "Even those who were awake were unable to explain their suffering
and pain," he said.

President Francois Hollande said France is committed to "destroying" the so-called
Islamic State group, which has claimed responsibility for Friday's deadly attacks
that left 129 people dead

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34837572

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Paris attacks: Police search suspects' premises

1 minute ago

Police probing Friday's attacks in Paris have been searching premises they believe
were used by the attackers.A car rented by Salah Abdeslam, the suspected eighth
gunman who is now the subject of an international manhunt, is also being
inspected.He or his brother Brahim, named as another attacker, are thought to
have rented a flat and two hotel rooms.

The so-called Islamic State (IS) group says it carried out the multiple attacks in
which 129 people died.

Officials say that 117 of the victims have now been identified.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34846771

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‘No talk of anti-terror coalition if political parties use terror for their own agenda’

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Published on 17 Nov 2015
Extremists who planned and carried out the terror act on Sinai plane are not committed
to ideology but to money, Catherine Shakdam, director of programs in Shafaqna
Institute of Middle Eastern Studies, told RT.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wrd

Bill Ryan
17th November 2015, 16:18
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:bump: :bump: :bump:

This post #271 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86766-Paris-Attack-multiple-locations-132-dead-349-injured-17-remaining-in-critical-condition--13-Nov-2015-&p=1020209&viewfull=1#post1020209) from PRAY PEACE.

I know this member personally, and what I can say, without breaking confidentiality, is that they're both well-connected and well-informed.

In a time when we're sometimes inundated with every kind of source of information, including many good ones which are also posted here, we should maybe pay close attention to this.

It strongly suggests the US is planned to be next, and that the terrorist infrastructure is already in place. These are 'real' terrorists, not classical false flag events with actors and the like — which have been allowed to run free with the agencies looking the other way.

This means that the agencies may not actually know for sure what will happen, when and where. This adds much plausibility/believability to the 'real terrorists' scenario, which suits the NWO just fine. It powerfully fuels the entire Problem-Reaction-Solution engine.

From http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86766-Paris-Attack-multiple-locations-132-dead-349-injured-17-remaining-in-critical-condition--13-Nov-2015-&p=1020209&viewfull=1#post1020209:




The following information likely applies to a looming attack on U.S. soil and was presented to various forum members weeks ago:

# # #

An advanced energy research colleague attended a local HAM radio event 2-1/2 months ago. Someone there was also a member of the Cherokee County NC interagency drug task force. One of the task force members located an odd muslim center of sorts and the task force elected to initiate an unauthorized monitoring of the location. ~3 months ago, a plated van showed up to this location and dropped off some crates. The video feed must have picked up the opening of the crates, because the person who attended the HAM radio meeting said that they identified the delivery as AR-15s and ammo, so they traced the plates...back to Homeland Security. It's Fast-n-Furious II if in fact the van originated from assets either assigned to or aligned with Homeland Security. At a following HAM radio event, our colleague mentioned to this person who told him about this that he brought it to the attention of us here in D.C. After that, our colleague became persona non grata and was no longer welcome at the HAM radio meetings (UPDATE: our research colleague returned to the HAM radio meetings after those associated with the task force were no longer attending the meetings). Please consider mentioning this as an event that should be investigated. We considered reporting this directly to DHS SOC, but believed that such a report would hit a dead end and would not result in intervention as needed to prevent the use of these weapons on Americans as early as this fall (UPDATE: personnel affiliated with the CIA and FBI were made aware of this situation months ago). Therefore, this needs to be investigated, as this one incident is unlikely to be an isolated event.

# # #

Investigative parties may contact the phone number below to follow-up as circumstances dictate. A terrorist operation possibly involving the same muslim group may have been activated to attack D.C. and/or other locations in the United States by recent events. The phone number listed below will be active until the end of December 2015.

Thanks,

PRAY PEACE
424-731-3601



...and this following post #278 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86766-Paris-Attack-multiple-locations-132-dead-349-injured-17-remaining-in-critical-condition--13-Nov-2015-&p=1020271&viewfull=1#post1020271), which is related:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86766-Paris-Attack-multiple-locations-132-dead-349-injured-17-remaining-in-critical-condition--13-Nov-2015-&p=1020271&viewfull=1#post1020271


http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/13/ironic-timing-report-first-load-out-of-anticipated-10000-syrian-refugees-has-arrived-in-new-orleans/

UPDATE – Ironic Timing – Report: First Load Out of Anticipated “10,000 Syrian Refugees” Has Arrived in New Orleans…

Posted on November 13, 2015 by sundance

UPDATED 11/15/15 below: To include letter from Governor Bobby Jindal to the White House

This is very concerning. It would appear most of the “refugees” are economic jihadist males between the age of 18-45 years old.

The first transport of refugees arrived in New Orleans recently and will be resettled in Louisiana and 180 other American communities.

[…] The 10,000 Syrian refugees are first flown to the United States, according to the French news wire Agence France-Presse, with the State Department paying the International Organization for Migration (IOM) for the airfare.

Then, once the refugees arrive in the country, they could be dispersed across the 180 cities listed above, where they are to aided within the first 30 to 90 days in settling and finding employment in the area.

# # #

What is being observed in real time is a cascade effect of a self-organized collective comprising radicalized Muslims and those who intend to use the Muslim faith to polarize East and West...and it appears to be working. However, just like the sand timer that reaches a critical threshold, once the collapse of sand begins, there is no way to stop it until a new equilibrium is established. That new equilibrium constitutes what is commonly referred to as the New World Order.

raregem
17th November 2015, 16:23
Just more of the same...Big Bully vs Bigger Bully. Lies, staged psyops, manipulations to achieve a level of perceived power - at ANY COSTS to human life.
Good people being severely beaten or murdered for truth. Same story -so often seen. It just strikes me as insanity -pure disassociation from the human heart.

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 16:32
It strongly suggests the US is planned to be next, and that the terrorist
infrastructure is already in place.

This reminded me of another article on the headline page , and made
me wonder how many of these type of robberies happen ?

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Thieves Raid U.S. Military Armory, Authorities and Media Censor What Weapons Were Stolen

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/armorybreakin.jpg

‘This story sounds like potential false flag set up, and it’s being intentionally censored and
edited by authorities and the mainstream media.

The current report is very short. Weapons, the identity and quantity of which everyone is
now being told has not been released by the FBI, have been stolen from the Lake St.
Reserve Center in Worcester, Massachusetts.

For example, CBS News is currently reporting:’

Read more: Thieves Raid U.S. Military Armory, Authorities and Media Censor What Weapons Were Stolen

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/thieves-raid-u-s-military-armory-authorities-and-media-censor-what-weapons-were-stolen_112015

TargeT
17th November 2015, 16:35
Thieves Raid U.S. Military Armory, Authorities and Media Censor What Weapons Were Stolen

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/armorybreakin.jpg

‘This story sounds like potential false flag set up, and it’s being intentionally censored and
edited by authorities and the mainstream media.

The current report is very short. Weapons, the identity and quantity of which everyone is
now being told has not been released by the FBI, have been stolen from the Lake St.
Reserve Center in Worcester, Massachusetts.

For example, CBS News is currently reporting:’

Read more: Thieves Raid U.S. Military Armory, Authorities and Media Censor What Weapons Were Stolen

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/thieves-raid-u-s-military-armory-authorities-and-media-censor-what-weapons-were-stolen_112015

you can break into our armories, but the weapons themselves are locked up in "bank vault" rooms; which are then locked into storage racks (lots of locks involved...) I'd bet no weapons were stolen. If any were "stolen" I'd be very suspicious that it wasn't an "inside job".

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 16:39
you can break into our armories, but the weapons themselves are locked up in "bank vault"
rooms; which are then locked into storage racks (lots of locks involved...) I'd bet no weapons
were stolen. If any were "stolen" I'd be very suspicious that it wasn't an "inside job".


That's what I would of thought ? is it a 'red herring' article for future use , after
some event ?

Hervé
17th November 2015, 16:50
French Security Left Blind During November 13 Paris Terror Attacks (http://www.globalresearch.ca/french-security-left-blind-during-november-13-paris-terror-attacks/5489213)

By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/paul-craig-roberts) Global Research, November 15, 2015

Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/15/french-security-left-blind-during-paris-attacks-2/) 17 November 2015





http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/French-soldiers-400x224.jpg


I have received a report from European security that there was a massive cyber attack on French systems 48 hours prior to and during the Paris attacks.

Amongst other things, the attack took down the French mobile data network and blinded police surveillance. The attack was not a straightforward DDOS attack but a sophisticated attack that targeted a weakness in infrastructure hardware.

Such an attack is beyond the capability of most organizations and requires capability that is unlikely to be in ISIL’s arsenal. An attack on this scale is difficult to pull off without authorities getting wind of it. The coordination required suggests state involvement.

It is common for people with no experience in government to believe that false flag attacks are not possible, because they think the entire government would have to be involved and not everyone would go along with it. Someone would talk. However, if the report I have received is correct, hardly anyone has to be involved, and security forces are simply disabled.

Remember the reports that during 9/11, a simulation of the actual events that were occurring was being conducted, thus confusing responsible parties about the reality.

I am unable to reveal any further information.

If security experts find the information credible, they should direct their inquiries to the French authorities.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts’ latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/inbound/nbe81oi9d) and How America Was Lost (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/inbound/7o5oendn3o).

Meggings
17th November 2015, 16:59
This is a MAGNIFICENT personal response to the Paris situation, by a man whose wife was killed. In coming here to post this, scrolling down, I saw that Max Igan, a most wise man, has been seriously beaten up because he speaks on behalf of life in Palestine. I myself will have to come to my own forgiveness for the crap perpetrated in our beautiful world - we are not evil, but are manipulated so that evil can work through us. God bless us, everyone, and lift the veil from us that obscures our understanding of truth.

If you have not already heard this one-minute voice of love, I urge you to listen to it.
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-11-16/husband-writes-defiant-and-touching-tribute-to-his-wife-killed-in-bataclan-massacre/

Flash
17th November 2015, 17:05
Wow, quite credible ain't it!! this post plus post 313.

I was just reading that Anonymous threatened to hack and destroy ISIS to which ISIS responded. As the Anonymous people are often trained in the West in computers and are good at it, which the arab trained kids aren't, having only access to quite dated technologies, it could be thought that ISIS would not be able to counteract Anonymous attacks - unless ISIS is supported by some developed states (Israel, European nations, America, Russia are all potentials) knowledge and know-how. This could be a proof of states sponsoring of ISIS (efficient counteraction of Anonymous).

As we see here, it may just be the case.




French Security Left Blind During November 13 Paris Terror Attacks (http://www.globalresearch.ca/french-security-left-blind-during-november-13-paris-terror-attacks/5489213)

By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/paul-craig-roberts) Global Research, November 15, 2015

Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/15/french-security-left-blind-during-paris-attacks-2/) 17 November 2015





http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/French-soldiers-400x224.jpg


I have received a report from European security that there was a massive cyber attack on French systems 48 hours prior to and during the Paris attacks.

Amongst other things, the attack took down the French mobile data network and blinded police surveillance. The attack was not a straightforward DDOS attack but a sophisticated attack that targeted a weakness in infrastructure hardware.

Such an attack is beyond the capability of most organizations and requires capability that is unlikely to be in ISIL’s arsenal. An attack on this scale is difficult to pull off without authorities getting wind of it. The coordination required suggests state involvement.

It is common for people with no experience in government to believe that false flag attacks are not possible, because they think the entire government would have to be involved and not everyone would go along with it. Someone would talk. However, if the report I have received is correct, hardly anyone has to be involved, and security forces are simply disabled.

Remember the reports that during 9/11, a simulation of the actual events that were occurring was being conducted, thus confusing responsible parties about the reality.

I am unable to reveal any further information.

If security experts find the information credible, they should direct their inquiries to the French authorities.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts’ latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/inbound/nbe81oi9d) and How America Was Lost (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/inbound/7o5oendn3o).


Les Anonymous viennent de sortir une vidéo dans laquelle ils expliquent qu'ils vont cyber-mettre-leur-race au CyberCaliphat, alias Daesh-Online, alias 3615 Etat-Islamique dans une opération baptisée #OpParis.

Comme le Daesh exploite les réseaux sociaux pour sa propagande et ainsi enrôler de jeunes abruti(e)s, tenter de les démonter en ligne ne pourra que faire du bien. En effet, les comptes Twitter ou Facebook qui diffusent ou rediffusent les messages de Daesh sont une piste qu'il est possible de remonter, afin, au minimum, de demander une fermeture des comptes à Twitter ou Facebook (ou autre) voire de livrer de précieuses informations à la police. (J'ai mis à jour la vidéo. Celle-ci est "l'officielle".)
http://korben.info/anonymous-vs-daesh.html




Earlier this year Anonymous released a list of around 9,200 accounts that the group claimed were supporters of ISIS.
•Read more Anonymous declares war on Islamic State after Paris attacks in chilling video: 'We will hunt you down'
•Jihadists posted this 'how to bomb a plane' guide months before Russian jet blown out of sky

But Laurelli said that by identifying social media accounts that were sympathetic to ISIS led to their closure, in turn preventing police from gaining crucial intelligence.

He told AFP: "Young people identify with it and feel they can act but it is counter-productive. It is more embarrassing for the police than anything else.

"To close those accounts is to leave police deaf and blind around some matters.

"It is important to know that one account is in France, another in Syria or in Iraq," he said.

"If you see that someone who is connected to the attacks has a link to someone else, it's important for police.

"Twitter has been quick to close down a large number of accounts but I don't know if it's a good idea."
•Read more Anonymous issues second online threat to ISIS and promises 'major cyber attacks' in response to Paris tragedy

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the Friday night attacks .

The death toll in Paris currently stands at 129 people while another 415 people were admitted to hospital of which 42 are in a critical condition.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/anonymous-declares-war-isis-hackers-6843007

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 18:15
This is looking more than just coincidence , Paris attack , Russia bomb on
plane confirmed. Attacks stepped up and televised.....Russia was firing off
Ballistic missiles last week and there was a ' accidental ' press leak for a top
secret nuclear torpedoes. Maybe behind the scenes , Russia has warned the
west , and its been agreed the ISIS psyop must be put to bed ? ( speculation ).

This whole thing seems 'dodgy' as we have been speculating . It feels to me
that the Russians have had enough and although they cannot come out and
simply say . ISIS is an intel op that has morphed out of Al Qaeda and the
neo - con agenda from the 1990's , because that would lead to more political
fallout than there is over the Ukraine and Middle east already. Russia still has
many trading sanctions against her , which if this sudden co - operation with
the west succeeds may be lifted.

So they have had to wait and manoeuvre the situation in their favour after they
have caught back up technically after the cold war.

Or they have all been told by their masters to start again ?

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Russia targets ISIS with 34 cruise missiles, strategic bombers – Def Min briefing

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Published on 17 Nov 2015

The Russian military has launched airstrikes against the Islamic State stronghold of
Raqqa in Syria with cruise missiles from their ships in the Mediterranean Sea,
France’s Le Monde newspaper said, citing a French official.
READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wrx

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Russian strategic bombers on anti-ISIS sorties to Syria

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Published on 17 Nov 2015
Russia has deployed its fleet of strategic bombers to double the volume of airstrikes
on Islamist targets in Syria, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has announced.

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Moment Russian cruise missile flies by targeting ISIS in Syria

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Published on 17 Nov 2015
Russia has deployed its fleet of strategic bombers to double the volume of airstrikes
on Islamist targets in Syria, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has announced.





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RAW: Russia test-fires Bulava IBMs from nuclear submarine

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Published on 14 Nov 2015


Russian nuclear submarine Vladimir Monomakh (Project 955 Borei class) fires
2 Bulava intercontinental ballistic missiles from underwater for the first time –
the launch was successful as the IBMs reached their target in Kamchatka polygon.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

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The moment Russian television accidentally shows secret plans for a nuclear torpedo system on air

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Published on 12 Nov 2015


The Kremlin has admitted that Russian television accidentally showed secret plans
for a nuclear torpedo system on air.

Two Kremlin-controlled channels, NTV and Channel One, showed a military official
looking at a confidential document containing drawings and details of a weapons
system called Status-6, designed by Rubin, a nuclear submarine construction
company based in St Petersburg.

SECRET NUCLEAR TORPEDO PLANS APPEAR ON RUSSIAN TV

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Published on 12 Nov 2015


The Kremlin says secret plans for a Russian long-range nuclear torpedo called
"Status-6" - should not have appeared on Russian TV news.The leak happened
during a report on state-run Channel One about President Vladimir Putin meeting
military chiefs in the city of Sochi.One general was seen studying a diagram of
the "devastating" torpedo system.Launched by a submarine, it would create "wide
areas of radioactive contamination", the document says.

The "oceanic multi-purpose Status-6 system" is designed to "destroy important
economic installations of the enemy in coastal areas and cause guaranteed
devastating damage to the country's territory by creating wide areas of radioactive
contamination, rendering them unusable for military, economic or other activity for
a long time", the document says."It's true some secret data got into the shot,
therefore it was subsequently deleted," said Mr Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov.

"In future we will undoubtedly take preventive measures so this does not happen
again."However, the Russian government newspaper Rossiiskaya Gazeta later
reported details of the weapon, without showing the diagram, and speculated about
a super-radioactive cobalt device. So the leak may not have been accidental.
Cobalt warhead?

On the diagram the giant torpedo's range is given as "up to 10,000km"
(6,200 miles) and depth of trajectory is "up to 1,000m" (3,300ft).
It was developed by Rubin, a submarine design bureau in St Petersburg.It would,
apparently, be launched by nuclear-powered submarines of the 09852 "Belgorod"
and 09851 "Khabarovsk" series.Rossiiskaya Gazeta called the torpedo a "robotic
mini-submarine", travelling at 100 knots (185km/h; 115mph), which would "avoid
all acoustic tracking devices and other traps".

Just before the torpedo diagram came into view in the state TV report, Mr Putin
could be heard telling the generals that the US and its Nato allies were forging
ahead with a global anti-missile defence system "unfortunately ignoring our
concerns and our offers of co-operation".He said the Western defence project
was "an attempt to undermine the existing parity in strategic nuclear weapons and
essentially to upset the whole system of global and regional stability".

http://i.imgur.com/MzHSdZT.jpg

TODD & NORA
17th November 2015, 18:46
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norman
17th November 2015, 19:15
The Corbett Report looks at ISIS:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhW0o2ym8h8

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 19:23
The Corbett Report looks at ISIS:

James always has interesting and well researched information.

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The Islamic State believes it's on a "divine mission" to lure unbelievers into
Syria for an Armageddon-like battle — and it'd be a mistake to interpret its
brutality through the "lens of Western rationality," analysts believe.

It has similar laws to Saudi , the west major ally and ISIS financer and is just as
blood thirsty....

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WTF? Crucifixion, Beheading, Stoning, Saudi Arabia and ISIS/ISIL have near-identical punishments!!

Saudi Arabia Is Beheading Children & Disabled People

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Published on 25 Aug 2015

Saudi Arabia executed more than 102 people in the first half of this year, according
to an Amnesty International report—for a total of more than 175 in the past year.
The 2015 execution rate is nearly a person every other day, meaning it may well
top the country’s previous record, set in 1995, when it put to death 192
individuals...

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http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/all/themes/mee/logo.png

Crime and punishment: Islamic State vs Saudi Arabia#IslamicStateThe Islamic
State group has released a list of punishments, mirroring those prescribed by
authorities in Saudi Arabia - See more at:
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/crime-and-
punishment-islamic-state-vs-saudi-arabia-1588245666#sthash.bW8KP3dS.dpuf

http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/main_image_article_page/p
ublic/main-images/King%20Abdullah%20sword%20%28AFP%29.jpg
Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz doing the War dance during the Janadriyah
Festival - See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/crime-and-
punishment-islamic-state-vs-saudi-arabia-1588245666#sthash.bW8KP3dS.dpuf

Crime and punishment: Islamic State vs Saudi Arabia#IslamicStateThe Islamic
State group has released a list of punishments, mirroring those prescribed by
authorities in Saudi Arabia - See more at:
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/crime-and-punishment-islamic-state-vs-saudi-
arabia-1588245666#sthash.bW8KP3dS.dpuf


The Islamic State (IS) and Saudi Arabia prescribe near-identical punishments for a
host of crimes, according to documents circulated by the militant group.
IS published a list of crimes and their punishments on 16 December 2014 to
serve “as an explanation and as a warning” to those living in territory under their
control in large parts of Iraq and Syria.The document lists hadd crimes, which are
considered to be “against the rights of God,” and includes fixed punishments for
theft, adultery, slander and banditry.

Crimes deemed hadd and their punishments are derived from the Quran and the
hadith, the collected teachings and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad. However,
with the exception of Saudi Arabia, and IS-controlled areas, they are rarely applied.
- See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/crime-and-punishment-islamic-
state-vs-saudi-arabia-1588245666#sthash.bW8KP3dS.dpuf

http://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/wysiwyg_large/public/images/Punishments_FINAL-01.jpg

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/crime-and-punishment-islamic-state-vs-saudi-arabia-1588245666

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Saudi Arabia Now Executing 1 Person Every 2 Days Including Kids & Mentally Disabled
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Published on 25 Aug 2015

–Saudi Arabia is executing one person every two days; children and the mentally
disabled are not excluded

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wor...

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SM Gibson
June 16, 2015

100 Beheadings So Far in 2015 and Counting… And No, It’s Not ISIS

http://theantimedia.org/100-beheadings-so-far-in-2015-and-counting-and-no-its-not-isis/

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85350-WTF-Crucifixion-Beheading-Stoning-Saudi-Arabia-and-ISIS-ISIL-have-near-identical-punishments--

promezeus
17th November 2015, 19:38
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-17/theres-no-such-thing-isis-journalist-destroys-wests-terror-narrative-warns-crackdown

"There's No Such Thing As ISIS": Journalist Destroys West's Terror Narrative, Warns Of Crackdown On "Dissidents"

France Iran Iraq Judicial Watch Saudi Arabia Turkey


On Saturday, the day after the massacre in France which turned the streets of Paris into a warzone and left some 130 civilians dead, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had a message for the West.

While condemning the attacks and branding the perpetrators “savages”, he was also quick to note that Syria has been dealing with this brand of terrorism for nearly five years straight. In what amounted to an “I told you so” moment, Assad also said the following: “We said, don't take what is happening in Syria lightly. Unfortunately, European officials did not listen.”

Assad also took the opportunity to once again suggest that the West’s sponsorship of the regional powers who support (both explicitly and implicitly) Sunni extremism in Syria is the root cause of the problem although the language he used was a bit less harsh than that which he employed in September (presumably because he was trying not to inflame tensions less than 24 hours after the Paris massacre). Here’s what he said: "The question that is being asked throughout France today is, was France's policy over the past five years the right one? The answer is no."

Presumably, Assad was referencing the West’s support for the various militant groups seeking to oust his government. Those groups, including ISIS, have received money, guns, and training at various times from the CIA, from Turkey, from Saudi Arabia, and from Qatar. The situation on the ground is of course so fluid that it’s nearly impossible to keep track of where the guns, money, and fighters end up, meaning that even those observers who shun conspiracy theories would be hard pressed to contend that the US has not at least indirectly armed and trained ISIS.

Perhaps the most overlooked passage in all of the leaked documents that have surfaced thus far is the following from a declassified Pentagon report dated August 2012 and obtained by Judicial Watch:

...there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist Principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).”

That’s it.

That’s the smoking gun and nobody seems to care.

The passage above clearly states that the US knew this was coming and viewed it as “exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want” on the way to not only “isolating” Assad, but also to breaking Tehran’s Shiite crescent.

Although that’s such a critical excerpt, it has been habitually overlooked, and ironically, tragedies like that which occurred in Paris only serve to galvanize public opinion around an ideal rather than around the search for answers and that, is a dangerous, dangerous thing.

In that context and (importantly) in the context of French President Francois Hollande’s push to alter the French Constitution, we bring you the following interview with journalist Gearoid O’Colmain who pretty much blows apart the entire charade in the space of ten minutes.

"There is no such thing as ISIS. ISIS is a creation of the US, we know that from official sources of the US military themselves and declassified documents"...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7GAbVhjTSw

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 19:57
"There's No Such Thing As ISIS": Journalist Destroys West's Terror Narrative, Warns Of Crackdown On "Dissidents"

This has been posted several times , on various threads & two or three times by
me ...LOL ....But definitely worth another post

promezeus
17th November 2015, 21:46
But what is being missed by this reporter and most everybody, is that the west is demonizing themselves and exposing their creation of isis ON PURPOSE. So that russia and china can be seen as the good guys, come in as the saviors, the BRICS alternative, when in fact they are ALL ON THE SAME ILLUMINATI TEAM!!

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 22:05
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Paris attacks: Video 'shows ninth attacker'
5 minutes ago

French security sources say that surveillance video shows a possible
ninth assailant during Friday's attacks in which 129 people died.

The video reportedly shows a third figure in the car which carried
the group which attacked several bars and restaurants.

It is not clear if this ninth attacker is one of two suspected accomplices
detained in Belgium or is on the run.

The so-called Islamic State (IS) group has said it carried out the attacks


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34851943


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when in fact they are ALL ON THE SAME ILLUMINATI TEAM!!

I've been pointing it out subtly in various posts , but the mainstream are not going
to say that . Most people on here should know that there are darker elites pulling
the strings at various levels of the corporate world , and possible beyond that ? and
all the players from Obama to Putin are manipulated directly or indirectly.


from top of page ...


Or they have all been told by their masters to start again ?

from post # 294 page 15


The timing is very suspicious a day after a little chat with Barack at the G
20.It is possible to look at Russia and Putins actions over Syria as part of the PTB
geo - political plan that ' Power Blocks ' as in Orwells 'Big Bros'. So corporate
control can be maintained via competing military and other industrial complex.
Its easier to keep control and keep the global NWO that has developed over
the past century and is planed for the future if the reigns of power stay in the
hands of the few not the many. There are political elites in all countries including
Russia and China.

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 22:27
CrossTalk: Terror over Sinai

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Published on 17 Nov 2015

Terror over the Sinai: It is official – the Russian plane flying from Egypt was
indeed a victim of terror. Who is really responsible remains unclear, nonetheless
there can be no doubt much of the terrorism coming out of the Middle East has its origins in the West.

CrossTalking with Alexander Mercouris, David Swanson, and Mohammad Marandi.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Harley
17th November 2015, 22:37
Something I feel important that I must comment on now:


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It strongly suggests the US is planned to be next, and that the terrorist infrastructure is already in place. These are 'real' terrorists, not classical false flag events with actors and the like — which have been allowed to run free with the agencies looking the other way.

This means that the agencies may not actually know for sure what will happen, when and where. This adds much plausibility/believability to the 'real terrorists' scenario, which suits the NWO just fine. It powerfully fuels the entire Problem-Reaction-Solution engine.

I have been noticing for quite some time that many people are associating crisis actors and the like with False Flags. This is understandable because with all of the False Flag events taking place in the US and the UK (etc) in recent years there have been NO REAL TERRORISTS and they've all been fabricated, which has had a conditioning effect on people.

The fact is a "Classical" False Flag is a VERY REAL EVENT/ATTACK which is blamed on 'someone else' and the only evidence you may possibly find of it being a False Flag is that of which supports the lie of it being caused by that 'someone else'.

I felt it important to clarify that distinction now because, with the Terrorist Threat now going into Full Swing, if you allow yourself to get mired in the search for evidence of Crises Actors and such you may be caught completely off guard with what occurs next.

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Yes it's going to happen in the US, that is pretty much a given. But I'm thinking maybe not quite next.

Russia's already been 'hit', so I'm keeping an eye open now for either China, Germany, or the UK next (not in that order).

Not a prediction. Just based on patterns.

And yes, I said China.

avid
17th November 2015, 23:04
Tianjin? Another hit on China?
It's time we abandon the term 'false flags', and just admit we are at war with the corporatocracy, who will stop at nothing to get global control. Media manipulation, distraction via mindnumbing entertainment, poisoning surrepticiously by diet and the air, killing for resources in vulnerable places, weilding powers of blackmail over all politicians and the legal systems...
If Putin actually said he would not go after 'the dog that bit him, but the owner', after the downing of the Russian plane, and that he knew the owners were the Vanguard Corporation, and Raytheon, and hopefully criminals are being taken out, that would be wondrous.
All we have now, in my country, is mistrust and betrayal - there is no democracy.

So how about a new title for 'false flag' apportioning blame correctly - 'globalist hit', 'bankster benefit event', 'elite elevation event' or whatever, c'mon you marketing wizards - let us put it in the latest context.

SilentFeathers
17th November 2015, 23:06
Yes it's going to happen in the US, that is pretty much a given. But I'm thinking maybe not quite next.

Russia's already been 'hit', so I'm keeping an eye open now for either China, Germany, or the UK next (not in that order).

Not a prediction. Just based on patterns.

And yes, I said China.

I agree, I'm thinking quite possibly London. I see patterns too, I knew Paris was going to get hit, I mentioned it some months ago in another thread. France has been a big player in North Africa and elsewhere for a while now.

Also, I wouldn't consider Russia already hit, the downed jet in my opinion was a warning shot so to speak.....

China? yeah the war hawks would love to get China to actively join the morbid party in the Mid East, so I'm on board with you there, something major is VERY likely to happen with China soon to try to draw them in closer.

I'm keeping an eye on Canada too, I do feel a strong vibe something soon will happen here in the states or in Canada (or both).

Seems to me the psychopaths are ready to bust a move in multiple places all at the same time real soon.....

norman
17th November 2015, 23:06
A flase flag event can take any form. This latest event in Paris looks to me like a hybrid of an inside job and a foreign cell of terrorists.

The French Foreign Legion is a military service branch of the French Army established in 1831, unique because it was created for foreign nationals willing to serve in the French Armed Forces.

The French have history with using foreigners under tightly controlled conditions.

Cidersomerset
17th November 2015, 23:10
The fact is a "Classical" False Flag is a VERY REAL EVENT/ATTACK which is blamed
on 'someone else' and the only evidence you may possibly find of it being a False Flag is
that of which supports the lie of it being caused by that 'someone else'.

Good point thousands died on 9/11, Madrid, 7/7 , Paris and other attacks. There
have been many 'genuine' bombings and attacks around the world by various
freedom fighters and criminal gangs. Remember Al Qaeda was the data base of
various separate groups of fighters and mercenaries moved and sponsored by
the CIA and other intel agencies in the late 1970's first in Afghanistan to fight
the Russians where Bin Laden became an asset. Then Bosnia, Chechnya , Libya
and other conflicts with many in Syria now.

The crisis actors are more likely to be used in events like the Boston Marathon,
but that's not set in stone and they could be used creatively anywhere....

The actual 'terrorists' themselves could be genuine freedom fighters or opposition
to the ruling regime. They maybe known and either allowed to do the crime or
manipulated to do so ( 9/11). They could be ' patsies ' ( JFK ) Mind controlled
(Bobby Kennedy) , various mafia , CIA and other intel assassinations around
the world. ( Martin Luther King , Princess Di , that's an endless list worldwide )
Participants thinking they were part of an exercise( 7/7 bombers )..etc...

There is no set patterns and the definition is endless which is why it is so hard
to prove them at the time, especially if the organs of government are compromised
or covering them up and the press has been bought up and controlled by a few
corporate interests ,even though they seem obvious to a few and in some cases
the majority of people , they are consigned to the conspiracy files and a clause in a
history books

avid
17th November 2015, 23:22
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Rocky_Shorz
18th November 2015, 00:10
Russia directs Navy to work with France as an ally

France invoked the EU agreement bringing 28 Countries to aid France in all ways possible...

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 00:30
Russia directs Navy to work with France as an ally

France invoked the EU agreement bringing 28 Countries to aid France in all ways possible...

I wonder if they will give them their Mistral class ships ? Oh to late....LOL

What a French Farce .......


http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2015/07/18/french-mistralships-russia.jpg


Mixed messages from Russia, France on Mistral compensation deal

france 24 France

Latest update : 2015-07-31

Russia has reached a compensation deal with France for the non-delivery
of two Mistral warships, a Kremlin aide has said, but Paris on Friday
denied any agreement was imminent.

http://www.france24.com/en/20150731-france-refund-russia-over-scrapped-mistral-deal

norman
18th November 2015, 00:38
Douglas Dietrich has a wild and windy perspective on the dynamics behind all this.

This interview is hard to listen to in places due to a poor skype connection but if you skip about the first 30 minutes, he has some VERY interesting things to say. In a nutshell, he thinks the USA did it, to tell the western Europeans to get back in line and stop flirting with Russia/China.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZWsjkDum9g

syrwong
18th November 2015, 02:35
This is a "proof" that the Paris attack was a false flag whose date was predetermined long time ago.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojZ_Fsr9Tw0

31876

The January issue of the Economists magazine has the above as part of the cover picture. Many have pondered the meaning of the figures in the two arrows in front of Alice. Naturally they should stand for a date or dates. All complex calculations have been suggested, but now it is clear it is quite simple.

11.3 and 11.5 stand for just one date. If 6 digits constitute a date, the day, month and year must be of 2 digits. Take away 15 for the year 2015 , then the remaining 1,1,1,3 must mean 11 and 13 or 11 and 31. Since there is no 31st of November, there can only be one date, 11.13. This is independent of what date format is used.

Arrows may mean attack. The Mona Lisa painting may indicate Paris where it is put. I am worried that there are two arrows.

ponda
18th November 2015, 02:48
Luke Rudkowski, founder of WeAreChange, has pulled together a number of pieces to the puzzle and compiled them into one interesting video that gives a much less biased picture of what is going on today. Luke is well known for his journalism in the alternative world, as he really gets on the ground and pushes boundaries in order to unearth the truth. He is willing to ask the questions corporate media simply won’t ask, but should.

source (http://www.transients.info/2015/11/whats-really-going-on-with-paris-terror.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+transients%2FlmYM+%28transien ts.info%29)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6jCGJHsE6U


Published on Nov 14, 2015

In this video Luke Rudkowski breaks down the latest news about the terrorist attacks in Paris France and covers important news that's not being highlighted by the mainstream media

Sierra
18th November 2015, 02:54
Russia directs Navy to work with France as an ally

France invoked the EU agreement bringing 28 Countries to aid France in all ways possible...

Oh gee. :facepalm:

It was just such a similar agreement between nations domino falling onto the mousetrap that started WW1, with the relatively innocuous assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand of Austria IIRC.

Dennis Leahy
18th November 2015, 04:56
My computer time has been spotty the past few days, so I haven't had a chance to read this whole thread, follow its links, listen to the videos...

...so pardon me if this has been said before:

MKULTRA?

It appears that the murder and mayhem in Paris included one or more of the "terrorists" blowing themselves up. I suspect that some suicide bombers really want to commit suicide, if they are convinced it will further their cause, or maybe for religious zealotry (though I doubt this is very common.) In reality, suicide bombings do not further a cause. It never works. Secondly, the agents, er, "terrorists" for the Paris murder and mayhem spree are much more likely to be "special forces" soldiers pretending to be religious zealots, rather than religious zealots pretending to be "special forces."

So, how do you get a "special forces"-type soldier to blow himself up? MKULTRA brainwashing techniques is my guess. That's what all the MKULTRA experimentation was about - forcing people to commit the crimes of a hitman. Then, if a patsy is needed, the himan becomes the patsy; if a dead body with an indestructible passport is needed, the agent is "triggered" to off himself.

observer
18th November 2015, 05:13
^^^^

Artificial Telepathic Technology (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85728-ET-and-Black-Project-Tech-AI-Omnisense-w-Alfred-Lambremont-Webre), Dennis. Anyone who has done their homework will recognize the template immediately.

Research Reference:
"Trance-Formation of America" - http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/transforusa/transformation.htm

Tangri
18th November 2015, 07:43
Today there was a Skype interview with a danish witness at CBC.

Witness said after escaping black dressed men's shooting, Police picked them from street and brought them to the crime scene. Even Main media person was surprised
"why police took you to the crime scene before they weren't sure it is safe?

He said they told us " Police were not sure if the perpetrator running on the street"

Isn't it bizarre this?


CBC did not put this interview to it's archive yet, if they do I will bring here.

Surprisingly, CBC denied such interview was occurred and they have had any record of it. But one of my friend found out same scripted witness talked to other network also and got nailed it.

Check 12-13th paragraphs.

Paris attack witness: 'he was dressed in black, professional, shooting and killing'
Psychotherapist Mark Colclough, a 43-year-old British-Danish dual citizen, was with a colleague on Rue de la Fontaine when he witnessed a gunman attack a cafe.

We were about 20 metres away from the cafe when we heard a firecracker and I looked around and I could see a man, maybe 185cm tall, and the position made it clear he was shooting.

Analysis Paris attacks: what we know in wake of killings
Gun attacks and suicide bombings across city that killed more than 120 people described by French president as ‘act of war’ He was standing in a shooting position. He had his right leg forward and he was standing with his left leg back. He was holding up to his left shoulder a long automatic machine gun – I saw it had a magazine beneath it.

Everything he was wearing was tight, either boots or shoes and the trousers were tight, the jumper he was wearing was tight, no zippers or collars. Everything was toned black. If you think of what a combat soldier looks like, that is it – just without the webbing. Just a man in military uniform, black jumper, black trousers, black shoes or boots and a machine gun. Maybe a woolly hat.

He was left handed and shooting in bursts of three or four shots. It was fully intentional, professional bursts of three or four shots.

He killed three or four individuals who were sitting in the chairs in front of the cafe. We saw them get shot down. They fell off their chairs onto the ground.

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He then swivelled and shot through a car drivers’ window.

We then saw him walk into the cafe. He swivelled right and then swivelled left and opened fire. That is when we dived for cover.

We heard a total of maybe 15 or 20 shots, then everything went quiet.

We went back after the shooting had stopped and all three people at the front were still lying there. We walked toward the white car that was shot. The driver has been helped outside the car by pedestrians and he had been propped up against a light pole and he was dying.

We left the scene and then we walked away about 150 metres and we saw all the police cars and ambulances and fire trucks coming in. Although our instincts were telling us we should go home to safety, we have a very strong sense of community and we thought we should go back.

To my surprise, we were taken back into the cafe by police. It was pretty horrific. We could see people, who were either wounded or severely wounded or dead. Maybe 10 or a dozen.

The paramedics had arrived and were tending to people. We saw dead bodies and saw people – I saw a guy who had been shot in the stomach. It was horrendous. There was blood everywhere. And the one thing that struck me was about the blood in the movies and the blood in real life. In real life it is thick.

We took a circular stairs upstairs to the first floor of the cafe and up there were more witnesses and wounded people.


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The police asked if we had heard an escape vehicle or motorcycle. We had sought cover in a road which would have been a very good escape route for him. We were between some cars but saw nothing.

We were taken to the police station to give a witness statement. The gunman we saw has not been apprehended. They confirmed that on the way out. We asked if it was safe to walk home and they said definitely not.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/14/paris-attack-witness-he-was-dressed-in-black-professional-shooting-and-killing

M-Albion-3D
18th November 2015, 08:46
After watching WTC Building 7 come down, this changed everything for me. We must learn to "read between the lies" and adopt an attitude that ALL these so-called events are "False Flag" until proven otherwise. Thus far it seems, the latter just doesn't seem to be happening.


Strong words and potential evidence stated by Jim Stone....


http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamericayouprobablycantseethisc7.html


Some words from Jay Weidner


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--tam0uh-oiajJrWWVQaWNPUXM/view?usp=sharing




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Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 08:46
Oh gee.

It was just such a similar agreement between nations domino falling onto the
mousetrap that started WW1, with the relatively innocuous assassination of
the Archduke Ferdinand of Austria IIRC.

" The History books on the shelfe are always repeating themselves "

3FsVeMz1F5c

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Police raid Saint-Denis in hunt for Paris attacks mastermind

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Published on 17 Nov 2015


The French police and army swooped on a Paris suburb early Wednesday amid
heavy gunfire and explosions in the hunt for those behind last Friday’s attacks. A
female suicide bomber blew herself up, and five people were arrested during the
raid. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wuj

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Paris attacks: Police in deadly swoop on apartment in northern suburb
29 minutes ago

Armed police have raided a flat in the north Paris suburb of Saint Denis in an
operation linked to Friday's attacks.

A woman blew herself up with a suicide belt, a prosecutor says. Some reports
suggested two suspects died. Several explosions and gunfire were heard. The
operation is said to be ongoing.

Five people have also been arrested.

The focus of the operation is reported to be Abdelhamid Abaaoud, the alleged
mastermind of the Islamic State-claimed attacks that killed 129 people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34853657

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This sounds all to familiar ......Hopefully just hype.

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German media brays for war and dictatorship after Paris attacks

By David Icke on 18th November 2015 Useless Media, War and Terror


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German media brays for war and dictatorship after Paris attacks
Nov 17, 2015

By Johannes Stern

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‘Anyone reading the editorials in Germany’s two major Sunday newspapers would
find it difficult to avoid the conclusion that the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris were
welcomed by the German elites as an opportunity to push their right-wing agenda.

In articles bearing headlines such as “Into World War,” “This is no longer terrorism,
it is war” and “We cannot be subjugated, we have to fight,” Berthold Kohler in the
Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung and Stefan Aust and Mathias Döpfner in
Die Welt am Sonntag called for war and dictatorship with an aggressiveness
previously seen only from extreme right-wing circles.

Kohler, Aust and Döpfner are not fringe figures. They belong to the so-called “Alpha
journalists” who have the deepest connections in government and security circles,
and who used the Ukraine crisis to promulgate war propaganda against Russia and
the return of German militarism.’

Read more: German media brays for war and dictatorship after Paris attacks

http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/german-media-brays-war-dictatorship-paris-attacks/

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18th November 2015, 09:06
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A false flag event is really nothing new, but everytime they catch millions off guard...


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/41-admitted-false-flag-attacks.html

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 09:22
Problem Reaction Sollution ....More surveillance , war , fear ......Big Bro !!

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What stupid News anchors , the same logic is all Christian Americans are
responsible for every shooting in America. Ignorant idiots !!

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CNN Anchors Press French Muslim to Accept ‘Responsibility’ for ISIS Attacks in Paris

By David Icke on 18th November 2015 Useless Media, War and Terror

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‘YASSER LOUATI: The problem is that you’re still mixing the Muslim community
and giving them somehow an affiliation with these terrorists. But you are paying
two prices. The price of being targeted by these terrorists and some of the
right-wing columnists, like one of your guests just said, like we are being asked
to choose our camp. Our camp is the French one, make no mistake about it.

JOHN VAUSE (ANCHOR): Yasser, If your camp is the French camp, why is it that
no one within the Muslim community there in France knew what these guys were
up to? Because it seems to me that this was a pretty big plan. Surely someone
beyond the seven guys who have been killed over the last 48 hours would have
to have known something, and that was probably within the Muslim community,
but yet no one said anything.’

Read more: CNN Anchors Press French Muslim to Accept ‘Responsibility’ for ISIS Attacks in Paris

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After Paris attacks, UK politicians suggest fast-tracking new surveillance laws

By David Icke on 18th November 2015


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‘Some politicians in the UK are calling for the government to hurry new surveillance
laws into power following deadly terrorist attacks in Paris on Friday. Lord Carlile, a
former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, said that the Investigatory
Powers Bill — which was unveiled in draft form two weeks ago — should be “expedited”
and put into action “as soon as possible,” rather than by the end of 2016.

The UK prime minister David Cameron expressed similar concerns on BBC radio this
morning, saying that the government should “look at the timetable” of the legislation.
He also announced that the UK would hire 1,900 new security and intelligence staff
at MI5, MI6, and GCHQ (an increase of 15 percent) in order to “respond to the
increasing international terrorist threat.” Cameron added that the attacks in France,
which killed 129 people and wounded more than 300, “could happen here.”‘

Read more: After Paris attacks, UK politicians suggest fast-tracking new surveillance laws

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Osborne slashes welfare and injects £1.9 billion into cybersecurity to counter ISIS hackers

By David Icke on 18th November 2015

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Islamic State terrorists could launch cyberattacks on power stations, the National
Grid and hospitals, Chancellor George Osborne warned in a speech outlining his
commitment to spending an additional £1.9 billion on cybersecurity.

In a speech at GCHQ Cheltenham on Tuesday, Osborne announced Britain will
double its cybersecurity budget by 2020, and will create a ‘National Cyber Centre’
to respond to major attacks on Britain.’

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Read more: Osborne slashes welfare and injects £1.9 billion into cybersecurity to counter ISIS hackers

https://www.rt.com/uk/322410-osborne-budget-spy-cyberattack/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

transiten
18th November 2015, 09:31
Having a drill on the morning of the attacks is not at all the same as the London scenario whereby the drills coincided exactly in place and time with the real thing, thereby throwing the emergency response into disarray. Here you have the exact opposite: there is no suggestion that drills were used as cover for a real operation. On the contrary, the emergency services received last-minute preparation to respond with utmost efficiency, like a dress rehearsal before a performance. There must have been a tipoff of some imminent attack, doubtless with no indication of places or times, and it was acted upon in the best possible way in order to save lives.



Yeah that's right , I mentioned on one of the vids posted that emergency
services seemed to be on standby and the crisis actors if there were any
were part of that.


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Regarding "False Flag assumptions" also consider Synchronicity in
connection with stressful energies both personally and collectively.

Funny I just saw an article about that....



Synchronicities, Energy Healing, and Other Strangeness in the Field

By David Icke on 16th November 2015 The Awakening, What is Reality?

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Synchronicities, Energy Healing, and Other Strangeness in the Field

by Elle - Nov 15, 2015


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When You Have the Right Vibe, It’s Not a Coincidence: Synchronicities, Energy
Healing, and Other Strangeness in the Field

by Amy L. Lansky, PhD

The following is an excerpt from: Active Consciousness: Awakening the Power
Within [1] R.L.Ranch Press, September 2011, http://www.activeconsciousness.com


‘One piece of evidence for the holographic nature of nonstandard fields that have
been proposed in recent years — the zero-point field (a candidate for the unified
field), the psi field of psychic phenomena, Ervin Laszlo’s Akashic field , and the
morphic field proposed by Rupert Sheldrake — is that they all share a common
feature: sensitivity to similarity in vibration.

If a holographic image has many different holograms embedded within it, shining a
laser of a specific frequency upon it will cause only those holograms made with
lasers of the same frequency to stand out. That’s because things with the same
vibration naturally resonate and reinforce one another — just as two violin strings
at the same pitch resonate with one another. This property of resonance has also
been used to explain how each of us might interact with mysterious fields like the
psi or Akashic fields … People pick up only that with which they personally
“resonate.” Each individual’s resonant frequency, determined by their life
experience, physical body, and energy body, limits what they can perceive.’

Read more: Synchronicities, Energy Healing, and Other Strangeness in the Field

http://www.zengardner.com/synchronicities-energy-healing-strangeness-field-2/
If pple want an interesting perspective on "History repeating itself" read "The Synchronicity Key" by David Wilcock and try to not get hung up on what you might think about David's belief system or connections today if that's a problem. These cycles and synchronicities repeating themselves is hard fact, not based on "beliefs" or supposedly not trustworthy pple.

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Oh gee.

It was just such a similar agreement between nations domino falling onto the
mousetrap that started WW1, with the relatively innocuous assassination of
the Archduke Ferdinand of Austria IIRC.

" The History books on the shelfe are always repeating themselves "

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Police raid Saint-Denis in hunt for Paris attacks mastermind

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Published on 17 Nov 2015


The French police and army swooped on a Paris suburb early Wednesday amid
heavy gunfire and explosions in the hunt for those behind last Friday’s attacks. A
female suicide bomber blew herself up, and five people were arrested during the
raid. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wuj

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Paris attacks: Police in deadly swoop on apartment in northern suburb
29 minutes ago

Armed police have raided a flat in the north Paris suburb of Saint Denis in an
operation linked to Friday's attacks.

A woman blew herself up with a suicide belt, a prosecutor says. Some reports
suggested two suspects died. Several explosions and gunfire were heard. The
operation is said to be ongoing.

Five people have also been arrested.

The focus of the operation is reported to be Abdelhamid Abaaoud, the alleged
mastermind of the Islamic State-claimed attacks that killed 129 people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34853657

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 10:14
If pple want an interesting perspective on "History repeating itself" read "The Synchronicity Key"
by David Wilcock and try to not get hung up on what you might think about David's belief system or
connections today if that's a problem. These cycles and synchronicities repeating themselves is hard
fact, not based on "beliefs" or supposedly not trustworthy pple.


I agree from the Bob and Ion conversation & material which is vast now , and
changing as the frequency of creation are happening all the time by 'us' the
individual human creators ( gods ) which join together in memes through out
history in joint mass creations , religion ,capitalism , communism , Monarchy ,
anarchy what the collective imagination can come up with and these are usually
manipulated by individuals or groups who have knowledge how these frequencies
work. Or they could be new frequencies , ideas manifested into our 3 D reality ,
which is why we come to this plane , for the experience of the senses . As
back on the Astral plane we do not 'create ' we ' manifest ' and communicate
instantly by telepathy. Which is why we created this 3 D universe to experience the
contrast of being in physical form.

The universes energetic field and everything in it including us are created from '
pure 'electricity , not the domestic type ..LOL So this field runs on a massive loop ,
like a figure 8 , which has two wire whisk heads at each end going round in a
massive' no time ' loop interacting with multi dimensions and parallel worlds , and
we live and create in this reality. A lot of this info and variants are known by
masters and researchers around the world , particularly in Tibet and there are
ascended creators that have been in this reality for what we would consider
hundreds and thousands of years.

Now this is just basic and from there is many interpretations and variants as
we are all 'creators' and there are endless possibilities. Whether there is any truth
to this ? It does not matter in one sense as we are destined to repeat the 'cycle'
or if we wish or stay on the astral plane, which after eons can become boring for
some and is why some of us ' gods' created this reality in the first place.

Though it would be nice to know ? natural human curiosity , and is why our
memories are wiped before we get here. But the neural 'electrical ' link to the
universal matrix can be hacked , or a gliche may occur and some may remember
past lives etc.

Anyway this is a long winded answer that as we are in a never ending loop,
All events that have happened and are yet to happen are repeating themselves
in multi universes and parallel worlds, and yes there are ET's and others but
that's another subject...LOL

Is any of the above true ? Who knows but it resonates with me.....

From there you could say does all this political crap matter ? yes for some
while we are here and we are questioning whether other are manipulating
the experience , or doing a bit of 'astral insider trading'. Then are there entities
feeding of our energetic fields before we get back , and all sorts of scenarios,
that may or may not be 'real' but still part of the universal field reality as
once a frequency is created it exists forever , though new ones can exist as
well and over ride , but somewhere the original still exists. Then my brain
explodes...LOL

There are articles debating and speculating theories , and if you think about it
being on the web is sort of an electrical frequency matrix to share ,store and access
information and creations.

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Cosmologist Thinks a Strange Signal May Be Evidence of a Parallel Universe

By David Icke on 18th November 2015 What is Reality?

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‘In the beginning, there was chaos.

Hot, dense, and packed with energetic particles, the early Universe was a turbulent,
bustling place. It wasn’t until about 300,000 years after the Big Bang that the
nascent cosmic soup had cooled enough for atoms to form and light to travel freely.
This landmark event, known as recombination, gave rise to the famous cosmic
microwave background (CMB), a signature glow that pervades the entire sky.

Now, a new analysis of this glow suggests the presence of a pronounced bruise in
the background — evidence that, sometime around recombination, a parallel
universe may have bumped into our own.’

Read more: Cosmologist Thinks a Strange Signal May Be Evidence of a Parallel Universe

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High-functioning autistic five-year-old reportedly showing signs of telepathy
By David Icke on 18th November 2015 The Awakening,

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‘A young, “high functioning” autistic boy named Ramses from Los Angeles,
California, is being described as “one of the smartest five year olds on the planet”
by neuroscientists. It’s a situation that is baffling experts. The boy’s mother, Nyx
Sanguino, says her son is able to recite words in Hebrew, Greek, Arabic and
Japanese. She says Ramses is even knowledgeable of square roots and
rudimentary algebra problems. He can accurately draw the entire periodic table –
and he’s reportedly able to recite up to 38 numbers written out of sight.

“Even when he was a baby he didn’t like toys, he just liked reading. He started
reading when he was 12 months old and could even say words in English, Spanish,
Greek and some Japanese,” Sanguino said, according to the Daily Mail.’

Read more: High-functioning autistic five-year-old reportedly showing signs of telepathy

http://www.naturalnews.com/052018_autistic_child_telepathy_neuroscience.html

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New Discoveries Suggest We Live In a Multiverse Teeming With Alien Life

By David Icke on 18th November 2015 UFO Activity, What is Reality?

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By WakingTimes November 17, 2015

New Discoveries Suggest We Live In a Multiverse Teeming With Alien Life

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‘From Mermaids to Sirens, to Gods, Goddesses, Demons and Djinn. For millennia,
tales of other worlds and the creatures that live therein have fascinated the
imaginations of some of this planets greatest thinkers going all the way back to
ancient Greece and beyond to Babylon. These stories of other worlds have sparked
interest in “that which cannot be seen” since civilization began and this idea that
there is still much we do not know seems to be everlasting in the consciousness of
human beings.

Now that science has advanced to such a degree and research has disproven many
of these myths, most people have tossed away the notion that anything beyond the
material realm that cannot currently be measured must automatically be dismissed.
However, recent findings by astrophysicist Ranga-Ram Chary have again sparked
interest in “that which cannot be seen.”’

Read more: New Discoveries Suggest We Live In a Multiverse Teeming With Alien Life

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WakingTimes November 17, 2015

The Transhumanism Fantasy is a Failure for Humanity

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In a sense this is related to this and most threads as everything is connected
one way or another and is why I changed my Avatar after a 'Eureka ' moment
in the bath ...LOL

Leonardo knew it so its not new.....

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transiten
18th November 2015, 10:55
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Notice the original title "The Windmills of my Heart":heart:
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Thinking of "Hamlet's Mill" and the precession of the equinoxes....

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 11:05
Thinking of "Hamlet's Mill" and the precession of the equinoxes....

Windmills of the mind is a beautifull song and I remember the English version used
in the Steve Mc Queen 1968 movie the Thomas Crown affair , sung by Noel
Harrison son of actor Rex Harrison . It has its original French undertones that was
popular in England in the 1960's and early 70's which was sung at a slightly faster
tempo....

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David Icke Headline page......

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U.S. and Turkey Joint Operation Designed to Save ISIS, Not Destroy It

17th November 2015

‘With Russia annihilating terrorist vermin all across Syria from the air and the SAA
personally mopping up the remainders in village after village, it appears the West
has shifted from utter panic to an attempt to launch a Hail Mary and save its jihadist
pets as well as the plan to overthrow the secular government of Bashar al-Assad.

This Hail Mary appears to be coming in the form of an attempt to secure the “Safe Zone”
area discussed and agreed upon by the Turks and the United States in the past under
the guise of fighting ISIS and protecting “moderate rebels” and civilians. In reality,
however, the “Safe Zone” is nothing but a trafficking corridor for ISIS and other related
terrorist organizations supported by NATO, financed by the GCC, and funneled through
Turkey into Syria.’

Read more: U.S. and Turkey Joint Operation Designed to Save ISIS, Not Destroy It

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US intentionally spare ISIS in Syria as they want terrorists to weaken Assad – Lavrov

By David Icke on 18th November 2015 War and Terror

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RT NEWS ....

US intentionally spare ISIS in Syria, want terrorists to weaken Assad – Russian FM
Published time: 17 Nov, 2015 20:40
Edited time: 17 Nov, 2015 22:05

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‘The US and its allies are playing a dangerous game in Syria as they count on
Islamic State to weaken President Bashar Assad, but at the same time don’t want
the terror group to seize power in the country, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey
Lavrov said.

Despite announcing ambitious plans for its coalition against Islamic State (IS, formerly
ISIS/ISIL), “the analysis of those [US-led] airstrikes during over a year lead to conclusion
that they were hitting selectively, I would say, sparingly and on most occasions didn’t
touch those IS units, which were capable of seriously challenging the Syrian army,”
Lavrov told the Rossiya 1 channel.

The Russian FM called Washington’s actions in Syria a “dangerous game,” making it
hard to determine America’s true aims in Syria.’

Read more: US intentionally spare ISIS in Syria as they want terrorists to weaken Assad – Lavrov

https://www.rt.com/news/322482-lavrov-us-isis-assad/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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Turkey Warned France Twice About Terrorist Attacker and Was Ignored

By David Icke on 18th November 2015

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Turkey Warned France Twice About Terrorist Attacker; Was Ignored

Tyler Durden's
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/17/2015 09:13 -0500


‘The Turkish authorities warned their French counterparts twice in the past year about
one of the attackers, Ismaël Omar Mostefaï, a 29-year-old French citizen who was known
by the authorities as someone who had radical Islamist beliefs, an official said on Monday.

The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, in line with government protocol,
said the government never heard back from France and only received an “information
request” about Mr. Mostefaï after the Paris attacks.’

Read more: Turkey Warned France Twice About Terrorist Attacker and Was Ignored
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-17/turkey-warned-france-twice-about-terrorist-attacker-was-ignored

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 12:25
Meanwhile there are still tragedies going on in GAZA , Yemen and other areas..

Its surprising there are not more genuine terrorists , which is why
it is even more suspicious the fabricated ones controlled by various
intel services....

Save Gaza – Save the World: A Message to Humanity

By David Icke on 18th November 2015
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Published on 25 Sep 2015

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Netanyahu Unfreezes Settlement Construction in West Bank

By David Icke on 18th November 2015

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‘Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has given a final approval to the
construction of over 400 new housing units in the West Bank, local media reported
on Tuesday.

According to the Haaretz newspaper, West Jerusalem’s Ramat Shlomo
neighborhood will see another 436 housing units built, further expanding the Jewish
settlement located on Palestinian territory. A similar move in 2010, when the
Jerusalem municipality approved the construction of 1,600 apartments in the
settlement, invoked condemnation from the United States and the European Union.

The project was approved in 2012 but the construction was later frozen.
Netanyahu’s latest decision lifted the construction freeze.’

Read more: Netanyahu Unfreezes Settlement Construction in West Bank


http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151117/1030283274/netanyahu-west-bank-settlement-construction.html

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‘Provocation’: Israel outraged over Spain’s Netanyahu arrest warrant

By David Icke on 18th November 2015
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‘Israel wants to quash an arrest warrant prepared by a Spanish judge for Benjamin
Netanyahu over the deadly 2010 IDF attack on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla that killed
ten people.The Israeli PM and six other former ministers would be arrested if they
set foot on Spanish soil.“We consider it to be a provocation,” said an Israeli foreign
ministry spokesperson. “We are working with the Spanish authorities to get it
cancelled. We hope it will be over soon.”’

Read more: ‘Provocation’: Israel outraged over Spain’s Netanyahu arrest warrant

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Why can the UK magic up billions for war but none for social security or local services?

By David Icke on 18th November 2015

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Vox Political ~ politics for the people


“Prime Minister David Cameron has announced plans to spend an extra £2bn
on the SAS and other special units over the next five years.”

The announcement has, of course, led to outrage from the British public – people
who are being told that tax credits, universal credit or housing benefit will be cut
because George Osborne can’t find that kind of cash.

“So Osborne finds £4bn in 3 days for security,” tweeted ‘Joe Public. “The same
amount he said he needed to save while trying to push through his tax credit cuts.”’

Read more: Why can the UK magic up billions for war but none for social security
or local services?

http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/11/18/why-can-the-uk-magic-up-billions-for-war-but-none-for-social-security-or-local-services/


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US successfully tests nuclear gravity bomb in Nevada following $8billion upgrade

By David Icke on 18th November 2015 War and Terror

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RT NEWS.....

US successfully tests nuclear gravity bomb in Nevada following $8bn upgrade
Published time: 17 Nov, 2015 12:11

The US launched a third flight test of the newly upgraded B61-12 nuclear gravity
bomb, which it says shows the nation’s “continued commitment to security.”
The launch was completed by the US Air Force and the National Nuclear Security
Administration (NNSA).

The launch, which took place at Tonopah Test Range in Nevada on October 20, 2015,
“provides additional evidence of the nation’s continued commitment to our nation’s
security and that of our allies and partners,” NNSA Deputy Administrator Madelyn
Creedon said in a statement Monday.

She added that “this demonstration of effective end-to-end system performance under
representative delivery conditions marks another 2015 achievement in the development
of the B61-12 Life Extension Program.”’

Read more: US successfully tests nuclear gravity bomb in Nevada following $8billion upgrade

https://www.rt.com/usa/322417-nuclear-bomb-test-nevada/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 12:50
This essay is all about history repeating itself within many of our lifetimes....

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From Pol Pot to ISIS: The blood never dried

By David Icke on 18th November 2015

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From Pol Pot to ISIS: The blood never dried

16 November 2015

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Following the ISIS outrages in Beirut and Paris, John Pilger updates this prescient
essay on the root causes of terrorism and what we can do about it.

In transmitting President Richard Nixon's orders for a "massive" bombing of
Cambodia in 1969, Henry Kissinger said, "Anything that flies on everything that
moves". As Barack Obama wages his seventh war against the Muslim world since
he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, and Francois Hollande promises
a "merciless" attack on the rubble of Syria, the orchestrated hysteria and lies make
one almost nostalgic for Kissinger's murderous honesty.

As a witness to the human consequences of aerial savagery - including the
beheading of victims, their parts festooning trees and fields - I am not surprised by
the disregard of memory and history, yet again. A telling example is the rise to
power of Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge, who had much in common with today's
Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). They, too, were ruthless medievalists who
began as a small sect. They, too, were the product of an American-made
apocalypse, this time in Asia.

According to Pol Pot, his movement had consisted of "fewer than 5,000 poorly
armed guerrillas uncertain about their strategy, tactics, loyalty and leaders". Once
Nixon's and Kissinger's B-52 bombers had gone to work as part of "Operation
Menu", the west's ultimate demon could not believe his luck. The Americans
dropped the equivalent of five Hiroshimas on rural Cambodia during 1969-73. They
leveled village after village, returning to bomb the rubble and corpses. The craters
left giant necklaces of carnage, still visible from the air. The terror was
unimaginable. A former Khmer Rouge official described how the survivors "froze up
and they would wander around mute for three or four days. Terrified and half-
crazy, the people were ready to believe what they were told... That was what made
it so easy for the Khmer Rouge to win the people over." A Finnish Government
Commission of Inquiry estimated that 600,000 Cambodians died in the ensuing civil
war and described the bombing as the "first stage in a decade of genocide". What
Nixon and Kissinger began, Pol Pot, their beneficiary, completed. Under their
bombs, the Khmer Rouge grew to a formidable army of 200,000.

ISIS has a similar past and present. By most scholarly measure, Bush and Blair's
invasion of Iraq in 2003 led to the deaths of at least 700,000 people - in a country
that had no history of jihadism. The Kurds had done territorial and political deals;
Sunni and Shia had class and sectarian differences, but they were at peace;
intermarriage was common. Three years before the invasion, I drove the length of
Iraq without fear. On the way I met people proud, above all, to be Iraqis, the heirs
of a civilization that seemed, for them, a presence.

Bush and Blair blew all this to bits. Iraq is now a nest of jihadism. Al-Qaeda - like
Pol Pot's "jihadists" - seized the opportunity provided by the onslaught of 'Shock
and Awe' and the civil war that followed. "Rebel" Syria offered even greater
rewards, with CIA and Gulf state ratlines of weapons, logistics and money running
through Turkey. The arrival of foreign recruits was inevitable. A former British
ambassador, Oliver Miles, wrote, "The [Cameron] government seems to be
following the example of Tony Blair, who ignored consistent advice from the Foreign
Office, MI5 and MI6 that our Middle East policy - and in particular our Middle East
wars - had been a principal driver in the recruitment of Muslims in Britain for
terrorism here."

ISIS is the progeny of those in Washington, London and Paris who, in conspiring to
destroy Iraq, Syria and Libya, committed an epic crime against humanity. Like Pol
Pot and the Khmer Rouge, ISIS are the mutations of a western state terror
dispensed by a venal imperial elite undeterred by the consequences of actions
taken at great remove in distance and culture. Their culpability is unmentionable
In "our" societies, making accomplices of those who suppress this critical truth.

It is 23 years since a holocaust enveloped Iraq, immediately after the first Gulf
War, when the US and Britain hijacked the United Nations Security Council and
imposed punitive "sanctions" on the Iraqi population - ironically, reinforcing the
domestic authority of Saddam Hussein. It was like a medieval siege. Almost
everything that sustained a modern state was, in the jargon, "blocked" - from
chlorine for making the water supply safe to school pencils, parts for X-ray
machines, common painkillers and drugs to combat previously unknown cancers
carried in the dust from the southern battlefields contaminated with Depleted
Uranium. Just before Christmas 1999, the Department of Trade and Industry in
London restricted the export of vaccines meant to protect Iraqi children against
diphtheria and yellow fever. Kim Howells, parliamentary Under-Secretary of State
in the Blair government, explained why. "The children's vaccines", he said, "were
capable of being used in weapons of mass destruction". The British Government
could get away with such an outrage because media reporting of Iraq - much of it
manipulated by the Foreign Office - blamed Saddam Hussein for everything.

Under a bogus "humanitarian" Oil for Food Programme, $100 was allotted for each
Iraqi to live on for a year. This figure had to pay for the entire society's
infrastructure and essential services, such as power and water. "Imagine," the UN
Assistant Secretary General, Hans Von Sponeck, told me, "setting that pittance
against the lack of clean water, and the fact that the majority of sick people cannot
afford treatment, and the sheer trauma of getting from day to day, and you have a
glimpse of the nightmare. And make no mistake, this is deliberate. I have not in the
past wanted to use the word genocide, but now it is unavoidable." Disgusted, Von
Sponeck resigned as UN Humanitarian Co-ordinator in Iraq. His predecessor, Denis
Halliday, an equally distinguished senior UN official, had also resigned. "I was
instructed," Halliday said, "to implement a policy that satisfies the definition of
genocide: a deliberate policy that has effectively killed well over a million
individuals, children and adults."

A study by the United Nations Children's Fund, Unicef, found that between 1991
and 1998, the height of the blockade, there were 500,000 "excess" deaths of Iraqi
infants under the age of five. An American TV reporter put this to Madeleine
Albright, US Ambassador to the United Nations, asking her, "Is the price worth it?"
Albright replied, "We think the price is worth it."

In 2007, the senior British official responsible for the sanctions, Carne Ross, known
as "Mr. Iraq", told a parliamentary selection committee, "[The US and UK
governments] effectively denied the entire population a means to live." When I
interviewed Carne Ross three years later, he was consumed by regret and
contrition. "I feel ashamed," he said. He is today a rare truth-teller of how
governments deceive and how a compliant media plays a critical role in
disseminating and maintaining the deception. "We would feed [journalists] factoids
of sanitised intelligence," he said, "or we'd freeze them out." Last year, a not
untypical headline in the Guardian read: "Faced with the horror of Isis we must
act." The "we must act" is a ghost risen, a warning of the suppression of informed
memory, facts, lessons learned and regrets or shame. The author of the article was
Peter Hain, the former Foreign Office minister responsible for Iraq under Blair. In
1998, when Denis Halliday revealed the extent of the suffering in Iraq for which the
Blair Government shared primary responsibility, Hain abused him on the BBC's
Newsnight as an "apologist for Saddam". In 2003, Hain backed Blair's invasion of
stricken Iraq on the basis of transparent lies. At a subsequent Labour Party
conference, he dismissed the invasion as a "fringe issue".

Here was Hain demanding "air strikes, drones, military equipment and other
support" for those "facing genocide" in Iraq and Syria. This will further "the
imperative of a political solution". The day Hain's article appeared, Denis Halliday
and Hans Von Sponeck happened to be in London and came to visit me. They were
not shocked by the lethal hypocrisy of a politician, but lamented the enduring,
almost inexplicable absence of intelligent diplomacy in negotiating a semblance of
truce. Across the world, from Northern Ireland to Nepal, those regarding each other
as terrorists and heretics have faced each other across a table. Why not now in Iraq
and Syria? Instead, there is a vapid, almost sociopathic verboseness from
Cameron, Hollande, Obama and their "coalition of the willing" as they prescribe
more violence delivered from 30,000 feet on places where the blood of previous
adventures never dried. They seem to relish their own violence and stupidityso
much they want it to overthrow their one potentially valuable ally, the government in Syria.

This is nothing new, as the following leaked UK-US intelligence file illustrates:

"In order to facilitate the action of liberative [sic] forces... a special effort should be
made to eliminate certain key individuals [and] to proceed with internal
disturbances in Syria. CIA is prepared, and SIS (MI6) will attempt to mount minor
sabotage and coup de main [sic] incidents within Syria, working through contacts
with individuals... a necessary degree of fear... frontier and [staged] border clashes
[will] provide a pretext for intervention... the CIA and SIS should use... capabilities
in both psychological and action fields to augment tension."

That was written in 1957, although it could have been written yesterday. In the
imperial world, nothing essentially changes. In 2013, the former French Foreign
Minister Roland Dumas revealed that "two years before the Arab spring", he was
told in London that a war on Syria was planned. "I am going to tell you something,"
he said in an interview with the French TV channel LPC, "I was in England two years
before the violence in Syria on other business. I met top British officials, who
confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria... Britain was
organising an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no
longer Minister for Foreign Affairs, if I would like to participate... This operation
goes way back. It was prepared, preconceived and planned."

The only effective opponents of ISIS are accredited demons of the west - Syria,
Iran, Hezbollah and now Russia. The obstacle is Turkey, an "ally" and a member of
Nato, which has conspired with the CIA, MI6 and the Gulf medievalists to channel
support to the Syrian "rebels", including those now calling themselves ISIS.
Supporting Turkey in its long-held ambition for regional dominance by overthrowing
the Assad government beckons a major conventional war and the horrific
dismemberment of the most ethnically diverse state in the Middle East.

A truce - however difficult to negotiate and achieve - is the only way out of this
maze; otherwise, the atrocities in Paris and Beirut will be repeated. Together with a
truce, the leading perpetrators and overseers of violence in the Middle East - the
Americans and Europeans - must themselves "de-radicalise" and demonstrate a
good faith to alienated Muslim communities everywhere, including those at home.
There should be an immediate cessation of all shipments of war materials to Israel
and recognition of the State of Palestine. The issue of Palestine is the region's most
festering open wound, and the oft-stated justification for the rise of Islamic
extremism. Osama bin Laden made that clear. Palestine also offers hope. Give
justice to the Palestinians and you begin to change the world around them.

More than 40 years ago, the Nixon-Kissinger bombing of Cambodia unleashed a
torrent of suffering from which that country has never recovered. The same is true
of the Blair-Bush crime in Iraq, and the Nato and "coalition" crimes in Libya and
Syria. With impeccable timing, Henry Kissinger's latest self-serving tome has been
released with its satirical title, "World Order". In one fawning review, Kissinger is
described as a "key shaper of a world order that remained stable for a quarter of a
century". Tell that to the people of Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Chile, East Timor and
all the other victims of his "statecraft". Only when "we" recognise the war criminals
in our midst and stop denying ourselves the truth will the blood begin to dry.


Follow John Pilger on twitter @johnpilger

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JOKE ! Middle East in flames for over a decade and Blair wins philanthropist award by GQ magazine

MAIL ON LINE....

Boos and disbelief as Tony Blair is handed ‘jaw-dropping’ philanthropist of the year
title at GQ awards ceremony

On the day more of his chickens came home to roost in the Middle East, disbelief as
Tony Blair is handed 'jaw-dropping' philanthropist of the year title at GQ awards
ceremony

Award drew immediate criticism including from Labour MP John Mann
Tory MP Charlie Elphicke slammed the decision alongside Gary Lineker
Mr Blair, 61, was honoured for his work establishing charities in Africa
But his reputation has been tarnished by the invasion of Iraq in 2003
PM is worth millions and can command £250,000 for private speeches

By Tamara Cohen and Jim Norton for the Daily Mail

Published: 23:24, 2 September 2014 | Updated: 12:03, 3 September 2014

Read More...

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promezeus
18th November 2015, 15:14
U.S. and Turkey Joint Operation Designed to Save ISIS, Not Destroy It
By David Icke on 18th November 2015 War and Terror

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‘With Russia annihilating terrorist vermin all across Syria from the air and the SAA personally mopping up the remainders in village after village, it appears the West has shifted from utter panic to an attempt to launch a Hail Mary and save its jihadist pets as well as the plan to overthrow the secular government of Bashar al-Assad.

This Hail Mary appears to be coming in the form of an attempt to secure the “Safe Zone” area discussed and agreed upon by the Turks and the United States in the past under the guise of fighting ISIS and protecting “moderate rebels” and civilians. In reality, however, the “Safe Zone” is nothing but a trafficking corridor for ISIS and other related terrorist organizations supported by NATO, financed by the GCC, and funneled through Turkey into Syria.’


In my view, the above article and picture by david icke must be seen as DISINFO! I'm not sure what side david icke is really on, but if he is trying to point fingers at the west while ignoring the complicity of the rest of the illuminati team, which includes russia, then he is part of the strawman distraction campaign, a campaign which does NOT and can NOT lead to real understanding or real solution. David Icke is indirectly, or shall we say subliminally, promoting the NWO solution under the UN and brics.

Aurvandil
18th November 2015, 15:31
Sweden is now raising the security level from 3 to 4 (of 5 graduated levels) due to a general threat to the country, Swedish Police reports.

No specific threats has been revealed but the presence of police will increase in the bigger cities. Several newspaper writing about Islam has been given police protection.

A press conference will be given 17.00 GMT, more to follow...

Edit: The reason for raising the level is because of a concrete threat from a trained, Iraqi IS follower who has travelled from Germany to Sweden.

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 15:40
In my view, the above article and picture by david icke must be seen as DISINFO!
I'm not sure what side david icke is really on, but if he is trying to point fingers at
the west while ignoring the complicity of the rest of the illuminati team, which
includes russia, then he is part of the disinfo campaign, a campaign which does
NOT and can NOT lead to real understanding or real solution. David Icke is simply
promoting the NWO solution under the UN and brics.



The articles are from Davids headline page and he is a journalist as well as
researcher . He does not condone or agree with every issue he posts , as do I or
anyone , unless its a specific article or piece you wish to highlight. The idea even in
the mainstream is to give both sides in even reports , which we know is BS as
most have national or corporate bias , which you obviously know , and we have
our own individual ideas and bias's as well.

Back to David if you listen to his talks or look at his webpage you will find he has a
very wide range of views , ideas and opinions. But he is certainly not a dis info
agent or advocate of the NWO which he has been highlighting its existence for
decades. You may not agree with some of the articles , but at least we are still able
to read them on alternate sites.

Which may be curbed by web restrictions highlighted by David daily. The issue of
whether the buffer zone proposed by Turkey and the US could have been set up
years ago in conjunction with the Kurds if they wanted to seal the border and help
refuges. But then it would be obvious they are helping ISIS and other
fighters trying to overthrow Assad.

Turkey has internal problems with their own Kurdish population who want greater
autonomy leading to independence. Which leads to the possible bombing in Ankara
being a 'false flag' against the Kurdish demo. There is a missing potential country
in the region Kurdistan that would incorporate parts of Turkey, Iraq , Syria and Iran
and none of those countries want that.

By imposing the buffer now it would stop Assad from recapturing the area and give
the ISIS/ISIL/Al Qaeda and other mercenaries and assets an escape and covert
supply route. I got a bit side tracked David does criticise all their ' houses' and
when he goes behind the curtain to the elites , who may have direct contact with
dark forces manipulated by ET's / entities that have come down thru ancient
blood lines from Sumaria and beyond. Also the possible influence of jin and Archons
working behind the scenes , he is encompassing all sides at those levels. But that
is speculation and I only bring it up when you think he may be part of the dis info campaign .

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Assad forces advance near Aleppo with Russian Air Force cover

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Published on 18 Nov 2015

On the ground in Syria, the Government army enjoys air support from Russia, as it
continues to fight terrorists across the country. In the latest offensive, a number of
areas in Aleppo province have been reclaimed.

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promezeus
18th November 2015, 15:53
In my view, the above article and picture by david icke must be seen as DISINFO! I'm not sure what side david icke is really on, but if he is trying to point fingers at the west while ignoring the complicity of the rest of the illuminati team, which includes russia, then he is part of the disinfo campaign, a campaign which does NOT and can NOT lead to real understanding or real solution. David Icke is simply promoting the NWO solution under the UN and brics.



The articles are from Davids headline page and he is a journalist as well as researcher . He does not condone or agree with every issue he posts , as do I or anyone , unless its a specific article or piece you wish to highlight.

The author of the article is David Icke as shown directly under the heading. If your belief system regarding him allows you to ignore such blatant nwo promotion like this article, then doesn't it just go to show how easily you can be programmed yourself?

Atlas
18th November 2015, 16:00
[...] the 'real terrorists' scenario, which suits the NWO just fine.
The terrorists scenario is a hoax, it's a lie being told to everyone:
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Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 16:00
The author of the article is David Icke as shown directly under the heading.
If your belief system regarding a person allows you to ignore such blatant
nwo promotion as is this article, then doesn't it just go to show how easily you can be programmed yourself?



The article is from Activist post. Do you mean the caption of the flags ?

http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Untitled-652.jpg

Jake
18th November 2015, 16:12
In my view, the above article and picture by david icke must be seen as DISINFO! I'm not sure what side david icke is really on, but if he is trying to point fingers at the west while ignoring the complicity of the rest of the illuminati team, which includes russia, then he is part of the disinfo campaign, a campaign which does NOT and can NOT lead to real understanding or real solution. David Icke is simply promoting the NWO solution under the UN and brics.



The articles are from Davids headline page and he is a journalist as well as researcher . He does not condone or agree with every issue he posts , as do I or anyone , unless its a specific article or piece you wish to highlight.

The author of the article is David Icke as shown directly under the heading. If your belief system regarding him allows you to ignore such blatant nwo promotion like this article, then doesn't it just go to show how easily you can be programmed yourself?

Let me get this right... David doesn't include a russian flag in this picture,,, and that makes him a blatent strawman/disinfo agent for the ILLUMINATE?? Wow, there's not enough room in that pic to unclude everyone involved...

No offense, but yer gonna have to do much better than that if you intend to make your point about David worth considering.. This pic is satire, a JOKE.. So it didnt go far enough.... i agree! So that makes him a shill?? I'd probably not call out others for being easily programmed if i were you... yer epidermis is showing... :) lol...

Jake

Hervé
18th November 2015, 16:23
Et ça continue...

Paris shootout: 2 dead, incl. female suicide bomber, 7 arrested as police, army hunt suspects (https://www.rt.com/news/322507-gunfire-paris-night-police/)

Published time: 18 Nov, 2015 04:28
Edited time: 18 Nov, 2015 13:36


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Members of French special police forces of the Research and Intervention Brigade and forensic experts are seen near a raid zone in Saint-Denis, near Paris, France, November 18, 2015 during an operation to catch fugitives from Friday night's deadly attacks in the French capital. © Christian Hartmann / Reuters


The French police and army swooped on a Paris suburb early Wednesday amid heavy gunfire and explosions in the hunt for those behind last Friday’s attacks. At least two extremists, including a female suicide bomber, have been killed. Seven people were arrested during the raid.

Residents of the suburb of Saint-Denis, north of Paris, were awakened by an exchange of gunfire at around 4:30 a.m. (0330 GMT) local time.

"I was awakened by explosions that lasted about 15-20 minutes,” one resident told Le Monde. “From our window, we could see lights [that looked] like gunfire... Then helicopters landed on the roofs."

At least 15 people, including women and children, have been evacuated from the building in the area of anti-terrorist operation, the mayor office of Saint-Denis told Le Figaro.

According to police spokesman Jean-Alphonse Richard, officers identified an apartment being used as a base by the alleged terrorists in Saint-Denis in the hunt for a key suspect in last Friday’s murderous Paris attacks and his accomplices.


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French soldiers secure the area as shots are exchanged in Saint-Denis, France, near Paris, November 18, 2015 during an operation to catch fugitives from Friday night's deadly attacks in the French capital. © Jacky Naegelen / Reuters



The primary target of the raid was Abdelhamid Abaaoud, the alleged sponsor and mastermind of Friday’s massacre in Paris, police said. Salah Abdeslam, another suspect in the attacks, was also reportedly targeted in the raid.

“There were grenades. It was going, stopping. Kalashnikovs. Starting again,'' Saint-Denis resident Amin Guizani told AP.

The terror suspects reportedly barricaded themselves in an apartment.

Later at least 50 soldiers were deployed at the scene of the police operation in Saint-Denis, according to RTL.

"There are men from RAID [Research, Assistance, Intervention, Deterrence unit] shooting from the rooftops," Djihane, a neighbor, told France Inter radio, referring to France’s equivalent of SWAT squads. "We've been told to lie on the floor and not go to the windows."

At least five officers were injured during the anti-terrorist operation, the French National Police said on Twitter.

One of the suspects managed to escape, however, Richard said.

There have been conflicting reports about the number of terror suspects killed in the operation. France’s chief prosecutor has so far confirmed the death of one female suicide bomber. AFP cited police, saying that a second extremist was killed during the raid, while BFMTV reported three terrorists killed in the raid, citing another police source.

Seven people have been arrested by police, Paris Prosecutor François Molins said.
The prosecutor added that police arrested close associates of Omar Ismail Mostefai and Sami Amimour, two suicide bombers in the Paris attacks.

Schools and colleges in the center of Saint-Denis will stay closed for the day, an official from the prefecture of Seine-Saint-Denis said.

Reports have emerged about multiple shots and explosions at the scene of the operation later on Wednesday.

The suspected militants which are being targeted by police in Saint-Denis earlier planned an attack on La Defense business district in Paris, a source close to the investigation told Reuters.

The operation was officially over by 1200 GMT, authorities confirmed, adding that Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve plans to visit the site of the raid.

The northern Paris suburb of Saint Denis, home of the Stade de France national stadium, has been under intense scrutiny since terrorists targeted the venue Friday.

French authorities have launched dozens of anti-terrorist raids across the country following the coordinated Paris terror attacks on Friday that killed at least 132 people and wounded hundreds more. The raids have resulted in dozens of arrests and the seizure of weapons caches.

Belgium also carried out an anti-terrorist operation Monday in the Brussels suburb of Molenbeek, which has been dubbed a European jihadist hotspot. Both Salah Abdeslam and Abdelhamid Abaaoud, key suspects in the Paris attacks, were based in the area.

promezeus
18th November 2015, 17:14
The author of the article is David Icke as shown directly under the heading.
If your belief system regarding a person allows you to ignore such blatant
nwo promotion as is this article, then doesn't it just go to show how easily you can be programmed yourself?



The article is from Activist post. Do you mean the caption of the flags ?

http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Untitled-652.jpg

under the heading, you see:

U.S. and Turkey Joint Operation Designed to Save ISIS, Not Destroy It
By David Icke on 18th November 2015 War and Terror

I can see what you're saying about the article being from activist post under different author, and it seems david icke pens his personal name and not just his website name to all the articles, which I think is dishonest right there or is meant to show he totally agrees with article. The pic itself was created by davidicke.com not the other website.

David icke's website and pics are supposed to educate people , right?
to point them in the right direction for truth right?
Well he's not doing that as I pointed out. In fact he's doing the opposite as I pointed out.
He's not helping people understand the big picture of what's going on. He's simply distracting them with misdirection here.

He could have very easily made that pic with the flags of russia and china at least in the background, and that would have created an incredible AND controversial big picture image that would have generated alot of real thinking from the people viewing it. But instead he created this distraction which serves only the interests of the nwo.

Did he do that by accident or deliberately? I don't know but as you pointed out, david icke should know better, so whose interests is he REALLY serving?

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 17:16
This might of been posted earlier on the thread ? Any way I was listening
to the Dark Journalist interview with Peter Scott about JFK , posted
by Star Tsar , which goes into the Deep State and fills in how parts
of the secret government evolved .....Then they mention the interview below.

JFK interview on link

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DARK JOURNALIST: PETER DALE SCOTT - DEEP STATE:
SECRET GOVERNMENT CIA FEMA & THE DOOMSDAY NETWORK

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Published on 25 Jan 2015


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In this exciting and revealing special two hour Dark Journalist episode he
welcomes University of California, Berkeley Professor and Former Canadian
Diplomat Peter Dale Scott. Professor Scott has just released his controversial
new book "The American Deep State,” which exposes the truth about covert
forces that constitute an unelected, unaccountable, shadow government.

The "Deep State,” a concept that Professor Scott created over decades of
research, posits that a secret system operates alongside the public state
and utilizes intelligence contractors, the NSA, CIA assets, Wall Street, and
corporate big oil funding to manipulate the public with what he refers to as
"Deep Events," such as 9/11, the Iran-Contra scandal and the JFK Assassination,
for profit and control.

He also investigates an obscure official channel called the "Doomsday Network”
which provides a blueprint for the mass detention of American citizens under
shadowy plans like Rex-84, Project Endgame and the so-called "Continuity of
Government” that involves FEMA emergency policies being utilized by the Deep
State to get around public scrutiny. These plans also include a process for the
suspension of the constitution and the implementation of martial law!

Together, Dark Journalist and Professor Scott will examine how drug trafficking
is a corridor of funding for the Deep State and how journalist Gary Webb, the
subject of the recent movie “Kill the Messenger,” was destroyed because he
came too close to the truth. Webb was trying to reveal that Covert Intelligence
operations were assisting the explosion of drugs in major US Cities.

Professor Scott explains how Deep Politics has been the dominant feature in
presidential administrations regardless of the two-party system, from Kennedy
to Reagan to Obama. He explains that there was a fierce battle with the public
state which the Deep State won and now their militaristic vision is the norm in
worldwide foreign policy. He goes even further and reveals a murky coalition of
intelligence services, arms dealers and financial networks that colluded to
influence global geopolitics called “The Safari Club.”

Stunning, enlightening, unnerving and shocking, this is the most intense episodes
of Dark Journalist yet. You don’t want to miss this one!

Redstar Kachina
18th November 2015, 17:24
..........

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 17:41
Did he do that by accident or deliberately? I don't know but as you pointed out, david icke should know better, so whose interests is he REALLY serving?

I don't know how to answer that ? I'm reading it totally different to you .
Not being rude but are you new to this ? You are either a novice and
learning which is fine or one of the occasional anti David Icke members
that pop up from time to time. ( unless you are a none English speaker
and details can get lost in translation )To disagree with David is not a problem,
but even his critics must admit he is genuine in his beliefs , which does not mean
they are all right or wrong.

Back along some called him a mason because of his arthritic hand,
Others accused him of owning a mansion and living a rich lifestyle,
when if fact he lives in a small flat/apartment and does most of
writing and research from there.

The interests he is serving is the human race as he sees it that
we are being controlled and must get off our knees and take
back our power. There are loads of presentations and interviews
David has given over the years on u'tube.


DAVID ICKE - The Goal of the ISIS Psyops is WW3 & then a NWO

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Published on 9 Mar 2015

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Sophocles
18th November 2015, 17:45
The attack at Le Belle Equipe took place shortly after the first of three explosions rocked the Stade de France, where the host nation was playing against Germany.

Mr Admo, 26, who was staying at the Salvation Army hostel in Rue de Charonne opposite the Le Belle Equipe, told how gunmen executed patrons in a drive-by attack.

Trembling as he recalled how the massacre unfolded, he said: “I was just in my room and had the window open on to the street below.

"I could see lots people sat outside the bar eating dinner and enjoying a drink. The place was full of people just enjoying themselves.

“At about 9.30pm a new looking black Mercedes pulled up outside with dark tinted windows at the back and the passenger and driver windows down. I could clearly see the passenger’s face as he was not ­wearing a hat or mask.

The gunman calmly reloaded his weapon several times. He then shot up at the windows in the street to make sure nobody was filming anything or taking photographs. It lasted over six minutes

“He fired lots of bullets. He was white, clean shaven and had dark hair neatly trimmed. He was dressed all in black accept for a red scarf.

“The shooter was aged about 35 and had an extremely muscular build, which you could tell from the size of his arms. He looked like a weightlifter.

“He was not wearing gloves and his face was expressionless as he walked towards the bar.

“The driver had opened his door shortly before the shooting began and stood up with his arm and a machine gun rested on the roof of the car. He stood there with his foot up in the door acting as a lookout.

“I would describe him as tall, with dark hair and also quite muscular.

“They looked like soldiers or mercenaries and carried the whole thing out like a military operation. It was clear that they were both very heavily armed and the gunman was carrying several magazines on him.

“They both then coolly sat back in the car and sped off in the direction of the Bataclan Theatre.”

Excerpt from article at mirror.co.uk. (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/paris-attack-witness-says-black-6834503)

TargeT
18th November 2015, 17:55
Lots of good info in this video, Mr Engdahl even questions if the paris attack had a large "sandyhook" type of "staged, no dead" element to it... interesting anecdotes about time stamps and twitter posts from the stadium that NEVER included the bomb(s) until *AFTER* they were announced...
could be a lot more there...

Great historical run down on the Syria history of outside influence & where this is "headed":
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F. William Engdahl of WilliamEngdahl.com joins us today to give his perspective on the Paris attacks. We discuss the historical background to what is taking place now in Syria, how it plays into the current geopolitical agenda of the US/NATO military powers, and what it means for France, Syria and the world moving forward.

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 17:58
The Richie Allen Show on Davidicke.com: Jordan Maxwell
On the Paris Attacks, Friday 13th, The Knights Templar and More

By David Icke on 18th November 2015

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Published on 17 Nov 2015
Please Support The Show – http://richieallen.co.uk/

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 18:11
Hypertension, Mass Hysteria and the Imaginarium

By David Icke on 18th November 2015

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Hypertension, Mass Hysteria and the Imaginarium

by Zen Gardner - Nov 17, 2015

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‘Welcome to dystopia – where anything goes as long as it’s according to plan. Not a natural one, but
a fabricated design. This obviously staged and protracted hysteria in Paris is the latest of a long line
of manufactured events intended to throw humanity into complete disorientation and vulnerability.

This is what social engineering is all about, creating an atmosphere where whatever meme or
intentioned mechanism they wish to introduce into the ongoing narrative is most readily received.

It has long been known that a state of anxiety and fear is most conducive to human entrainment.
Manipulators have used this for eons when exercising their control systems on populations. Today
in this full spectrum war on humanity they use the term “strategy of tension” in the geopolitical realm.
This is the modus operandi of intelligence agencies as exemplified in the infamous Operation Gladio
set in place in Europe following WW2, provocateurs of which have since been behind virtually every
supposed terror attack dating back to the 40’s in order to keep Europe destabilized.’

Read more: Hypertension, Mass Hysteria and the Imaginarium

http://www.zengardner.com/hypertension-mass-hysteria-imaginarium/

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I have said this before although BBC is a state organ , it has made some of the
best docs before the internet era. The trouble was only academics and a few
researchers and the intel services and politicians knew the bigger picture and
significance of some of these major events in the 20th century , Which is probably
why they were not censored or stopped.

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Operation Gladio – Full 1992 documentary
By David Icke on 18th November 2015

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Published on 7 Jul 2012

Originally aired on BBC2 in 1992, 'Operation Gladio' reveals 'Gladio', the secret
state-sponsored terror network operating in Europe.

This BBC series is about a far-right secret army, operated by the CIA and MI6
through NATO, which killed hundreds of innocent Europeans and attempted to
blame the deaths on Baader Meinhof, Red Brigades and other left wing groups.
Known as 'stay-behinds' these armies were given access to military equipment
which was supposed to be used for sabotage after a Soviet invasion. Instead it was
used in massacres across mainland Europe as part of a CIA Strategy of Tension.
Gladio killing sprees in Belgium and Italy were carried out for the purpose of
frightening the national political classes into adopting U.S. policies.

norman
18th November 2015, 18:29
The French President was quick to call it an act of war.

That sounds like his first priority from the get go was to try to invoke the NATO treaty rules to bring all members in to help France with a military objective.

Question:

Is that objective, regime change in Syria?

or, is it to wipe out ISIS?

There are 2 very different possible scenarios for who was behind the attack and why, according to which way this military adventure is headed.

If it's regime change, it's a western/ISIS attack. If it's to wipe out ISIS, it's a more complicated thing involving France's developing relationship with Russia.

note: France is a "nuclear power".

Atlas
18th November 2015, 18:35
Mike Prysner: "towel heads, camel jockeys and sand niggers
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Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 18:45
The French President was quick to call it an act of war.

That sounds like his first priority from the get go was to try to
invoke the NATO treaty rules to bring all members in to help
France with a military objective.


Part of what this is about , is to get the UK involved as we are tied up intricately
with the US militarily intelligence wise, and at the top level we must be involved
to let the flow of info from GCHQ to Langley and the Pentagon flow freely. There
is also a large US listening post in Yorkshire. This is not conspiracy, its how it was
set up in the cold war and continued after as Snowden has leaked and is the way of
bypassing US and UK laws by getting each other to spy on one another and passing
on the info....Also we are part of ' Five Eyes ' a world wide intel network.

The funny thing I watched 'Spooks ' the movie Friday afternoon before the shooting
as I said on my first post and its about MI5 or 6 being incorporated into the CIA.
Which it is already on one level as it helped set it up during WW11. Any way I
digress.....

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" THE SPIN IS ON " !!


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Syria: Why the mood among MPs is changing

James Landale
Deputy political editor
2 hours ago

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Attacking Islamic State as an act of self-defence is seen differently in the wake of
the Paris atrocities

David Cameron has yet to publish his new plan for extending military action to
Syria but his team are already making the case in the House of Commons.

I have been told that this afternoon Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has been
briefing Labour MPs alongside one of his top military aides, Lieutenant General
Gordon Messenger, the Deputy Chief of the Defence Staff (Operations) who
commanded British forces in Helmand.

Mr Fallon is also planning to brief Labour MPs collectively at an open meeting in a
couple of weeks' time, followed by another briefing for Tory MPs.

Read More...



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34860147

Atlas
18th November 2015, 18:48
Jon Michael Turner throws his medals and stars, and explains why. Must see!
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jaybee
18th November 2015, 18:51
Lots of good info in this video, Mr Engdahl even questions if the paris attack had a large "sandyhook" type of "staged, no dead" element to it...



IMO this was the point that the interview and Engdahl lost credibility -

and what he said regarding that was (from memory) that he knew someone who was trying to photograph bodies in one of the restaurants and they weren't able to do so because there was an double row of chairs and the bodies were hidden from view by police moving around - and the view was very restricted -

now I don't know about you but if one of the dead was my son or daughter or family member and they were shot up and in a state - maybe their brains blown out or similar - also maybe there were some severely wounded in there being treated -??....I would want their privacy respected and maintained -

we have seen how utterly disrespectful many people on the internet are if they get hold of pictures of the dead and dying - photo shopping pictures of them them and using the images to further their own political agenda -

I would guess that photographers would be prevented from taking pictures of the dead and dying at the restaurant and the other places, as far as possible, to stop them getting them into the public arena and on the internet - to cut down on that kind of shameful abuse - - - ???


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norman
18th November 2015, 18:54
The French President was quick to call it an act of war.

That sounds like his first priority from the get go was to try to
invoke the NATO treaty rules to bring all members in to help
France with a military objective.


Part of what this is about is to get the UK involved........



IF, ( a big IF ), the French administration is trying out a clever way of leaving the western sphere of influence and teaming up with Russia, the call-out for help may be a trick ploy to fracture NATO and leave the US stranded with very few allies, IF, this is really a move to join forces with Russia to wipe out ISIS.

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 18:56
IMO this was the point that the interview and Engdahl lost credibility -

and what he said regarding that was (from memory) that he knew someone who was trying to
photograph bodies in one of the restaurants and they weren't able to do so because there was
an double row of chairs and the bodies were hidden from view by police moving around - and
the view was very restricted

I always enjoy James Corbett and he is pretty thorough
the interview was going good until they got to the bit
you mentioned, when he was just speculating , but
that's ok , if you take it in that context, it did not take
away from the bulk of the interview for me...

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IF, ( a big IF ), the French administration is trying out a clever way of
leaving the western sphere of influence and teaming up with Russia, the call-out for
help may be a trick ploy to fracture NATO and leave the US stranded with very few
allies, IF, this is really a move to join forces with Russia to wipe out ISIS.

I don't think France is trying to fracture NATO , its trying to invoke it. Its
already part of the alliance with the US ,Saudi ,Israel and others attacking
Syria. This is designed to pull NATO in as the US did after 9/11 imo ...?

TargeT
18th November 2015, 18:58
Jon Michael Turner throws his medals and stars, and explains why. Must see!
gdn3bIfP7fk


not sure how this is relevant to the topic at hand.

I was deployed in 2006 to Iraq also... I never saw anything like what he is speaking of, nor did I hear the racial slurs in the video above this... (at worst we called every local "hadji" which is a kind of a religious term, not really a slur). I was deployed with an Infantry unit that was in charge of security for the largest "detainment" (prison) camp in the region at the time.

I'm not saying I agree with us being there or everything done there was "good" but it certainly wasn't like this individual (publicly) depicts it... I have been a member of I.V.A.W. (Iraq Veterans Against the War) for 7 years now also.




Lots of good info in this video, Mr Engdahl even questions if the paris attack had a large "sandyhook" type of "staged, no dead" element to it...



IMO this was the point that the interview and Engdahl lost credibility -

Mr Corbett seemed to hold similar ideas at that point...



now I don't know about you but if one of the dead was my son or daughter or family member and they were shot up and in a state - maybe their brains blown out or similar - also maybe there were some severely wounded in there being treated -??....I would want their privacy respected and maintained -

we have seen how utterly disrespectful many people on the internet are if they get hold of pictures of the dead and dying - photo shopping pictures of them them and using the images to further their own political agenda -

I would guess that photographers would be prevented from taking pictures of the dead and dying at the restaurant and the other places, as far as possible, to stop them getting them into the public arena and on the internet - to cut down on that kind of shameful abuse - - - ???


.

Not sure how showing pictures of the dead is disrespectful, I guess here is where we differ, I don't see it as shameful or abuse... though any act can be seen that way I suppose.

I didn't like the way he went about it, but I do like the IDEA, I saw a lot of pictures and "bomb sites" that look NOTHING like an actual bomb site, with far too little or no blood evident; the question should be answered IMO.

Calz
18th November 2015, 19:02
*sigh*

So much for the "justice system" eh?

We have what is clearly, admitted, proven, declassified product of western intel services who immediately come out to "admit" to the dastardly crime (forget the witnessed white clean shaven guys) and within 48 hours bombs are droppings.

wow ... forget the other questionable ... evidence.

Clearly the globalists are either getting desperate or simply feel it is "game over" time ...

norman
18th November 2015, 19:06
IMO this was the point that the interview and Engdahl lost credibility -

and what he said regarding that was (from memory) that he knew someone who was trying to
photograph bodies in one of the restaurants and they weren't able to do so because there was
an double row of chairs and the bodies were hidden from view by police moving around - and
the view was very restricted

I always enjoy James Corbett and he is pretty thorough
the interview was going good until they got to the bit
you mentioned, when he was just speculating , but
that's ok , if you take it in that context, it did not take
away from the bulk of the interview for me...

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IF, ( a big IF ), the French administration is trying out a clever way of
leaving the western sphere of influence and teaming up with Russia, the call-out for
help may be a trick ploy to fracture NATO and leave the US stranded with very few
allies, IF, this is really a move to join forces with Russia to wipe out ISIS.

I don't think France is trying to fracture NATO , its trying to invoke it. Its
already part of the alliance with the US ,Saudi ,Israel and others attacking
Syria. This is designed to pull NATO in as the US did after 9/11 imo ...?

Yea, France is trying to grab NATO by the European nose, but will the tail follow?

Atlas
18th November 2015, 19:12
[...] the question should be answered IMO.
No doubt if you call these guys camel heads, send your troops there and kill their population that they will react, so there is no question why they will keep on calling upon the Jihad and fight your interests (get a sense of what I mean?)

Kill everybody: American soldier exposes US policy in Iraq
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jaybee
18th November 2015, 19:31
Not sure how showing pictures of the dead is disrespectful, I guess here is where we differ, I don't see it as shameful or abuse... though any act can be seen that way I suppose.

Pictures of people who have just been murdered in cold blood and could be in a really horrible state - and could be used by idiots on the internet to further their own political agenda - this is where the disrespect really comes in -


I didn't like the way he went about it, but I do like the IDEA, I saw a lot of pictures and "bomb sites" that look NOTHING like an actual bomb site, with far too little or no blood evident; the question should be answered IMO.

you can do a hell of a lot with photo shop now apparently - can any image be trusted 100%.... or can it be manipulated to manipulate the person looking at the image..?

Or are you saying you have seen suspicious scenes with your own eyes..?


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Frenchy
18th November 2015, 20:12
This one got me.
In an open letter published on Facebook, Antoine Leiris, a France Bleu journalist who lost his wife on Friday November 13 at the Bataclan, has responded to the terrorists.”[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone, Just been listening to Kerry Cassidy's interviewing Ole Dammegard......

He revealed the Patrick Pelloux ( also a journalist, ACTOR... ) was involved with charlie Hedbo, and now, Just happened to be called into Bataclan..... I well remember his apparent anguish after Charlie......

BEWARE........ Remember Kate & Gerry Mc Cann, Robbie Parker, ... et al ? ?

Harley
18th November 2015, 20:21
Hi avid :)


Tianjin? Another hit on China?
It's time we abandon the term 'false flags', and just admit we are at war with the corporatocracy, who will stop at nothing to get global control. Media manipulation, distraction via mindnumbing entertainment, poisoning surrepticiously by diet and the air, killing for resources in vulnerable places, weilding powers of blackmail over all politicians and the legal systems...
If Putin actually said he would not go after 'the dog that bit him, but the owner', after the downing of the Russian plane, and that he knew the owners were the Vanguard Corporation, and Raytheon, and hopefully criminals are being taken out, that would be wondrous.
All we have now, in my country, is mistrust and betrayal - there is no democracy.

So how about a new title for 'false flag' apportioning blame correctly - 'globalist hit', 'bankster benefit event', 'elite elevation event' or whatever, c'mon you marketing wizards - let us put it in the latest context.

I think the term False Flag is still appropriate here, as it is a violent act which is being blamed on the 'Bad Boys' ISIL (Terrorists) in order to fool and garner support from the people (and other nations).

Also I wanted to comment that I found it interesting that you mentioned Tianjin, China and Raytheon in the same post.

Because of the way the Chinese put such a tight lid on it, I don't think the explosions at Tianjin had anything to do with terrorism. You can read my new post on it here:
Re: China develops new aircraft cloaking material (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86823-China-develops-new-aircraft-cloaking-material&p=1020662&viewfull=1#post1020662)

Rocky_Shorz
18th November 2015, 20:25
I wonder if Putin is sending a warning to those he knows is behind all of this...

33 Million Reward
French, Russian Raids in Syria Kill 33 IS Jihadists in 3 Days
ISIS abandoning capital Raqqa, and setting up in Mosul, Iraq, in face of France bombs

"25 ISIS elements killed including European explosives expert in aerial bombing in Mosul"

There are about 2,400 t of irradiated+unirradiated PU from civilian nuclear power reactors in 33 countries

33 bloodlines...

Charles' Buddies...

Harley
18th November 2015, 20:37
Haven't seen this here yet so 'scuse me if it's already been posted.

Interesting video which describes 'How the Syrian civil war became the mess it is today'.

Syria's War: Who Is Fighting And Why

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKb9GVU8bHE

TODD & NORA
18th November 2015, 20:40
..........

ulli
18th November 2015, 20:55
Anyway, once they are done with Syria, they will target Iran.
They made a plan long time ago, and been successful in implementing it. Iran is next.

Already in the 1930s Iranian Baha'is were told to get out of Iran. I'll look for the text.

norman
18th November 2015, 21:30
Anyway, once they are done with Syria, they will target Iran.
They made a plan long time ago, and been successful in implementing it. Iran is next.

Already in the 1930s Iranian Baha'is were told to get out of Iran. I'll look for the text.


The more this event in Paris looks like a complete inside job, the more I think the original plan could be falling apart.

For France to do this to itself, there are more than one way of reading the situation. We know, I think, that France is one of the countries that's getting very fed up with the status quo with the western alliance. They are traditional allies of Russia, only interrupted by the cold war.

It's still unclear what Russia is up to but there are signs they are attacking the lifeblood of the cabal, ISIS OIL, Afghan/Pakistan opium. The wider picture looks like things are shaping up for a huge power shift, and I'm guessing France is ready to jump, EU or no EU, after all, Britain is threatening to cut loose too, but not in any obvious way to do with the power struggle ;)

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 21:32
you can do a hell of a lot with photo shop now apparently - can any image be
trusted 100%.... or can it be manipulated to manipulate the person looking at the image..?

Or are you saying you have seen suspicious scenes with your own eyes..?

That reminds me of an article I saw yesterday .....

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RT NEWS......

Image of Canadian Sikh man photoshopped to look like terrorist linked to Paris attacks

Published time: 16 Nov, 2015 20:36

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A Sikh man from Canada found himself at the center of unwanted attention after a
bathroom selfie he took was doctored to make him look like one of the suicide
bombers involved in the Paris attacks and then spread in the media.

The digitally altered image of Veerender Jubbal showed him wearing what looked
like a suicide vest and holding a Quran. It appeared on the front-page of one of
Spain’s largest newspapers, La Razon.’

Read more: Image of Canadian Sikh man photoshopped to look like terrorist linked
to Paris attacks

https://www.rt.com/news/322347-canadian-photoshopped-terrorist-media/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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French police arrest, lead off suspects during Saint Denis anti-terror op

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Published on 18 Nov 2015
The French police and army swooped on a Paris suburb early Wednesday amid
heavy gunfire and explosions in the hunt for those behind last Friday’s attacks. At
least two extremists, including a female suicide bomber, have been killed. Seven
people were arrested during the raid.

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Paris attacks 'mastermind' Abaaoud fate unknown - Molins

36 minutes ago

short vid on link....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34859082

The Paris prosecutor has said the fate of the suspected organiser of Friday's attacks
remains unknown after a police raid on a flat ended in bloodshed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34859082

TargeT
18th November 2015, 21:33
[...] the question should be answered IMO.
No doubt if you call these guys camel heads, send your troops there and kill their population that they will react, so there is no question why they will keep on calling upon the Jihad and fight your interests (get a sense of what I mean?)

Kill everybody: American soldier exposes US policy in Iraq


Oh definitely, during my time in southern Iraq I could trace every single attack back to something "we" did (usually run over a kid, or accidental shooting or other atrocity, not minor stuff); I'm still not on board with "us policy" equating with "kill everybody" that's just extreme rhetoric. Perhaps there were small isolated incidents of that (and I don't doubt there were) but not as a whole.... at the same time I agree, you don't send warriors in to be peace makers, occupation is a terrible idea, every time.

I never saw any french troops, but there were a lot of British in the area; mostly didn't want to be there, just like the rest of us.

TargeT
18th November 2015, 21:38
you can do a hell of a lot with photo shop now apparently - can any image be trusted 100%.... or can it be manipulated to manipulate the person looking at the image..?
.

True, but it takes quite a bit of effort and it's generally accepted that the speed with which the photos hit the internet validates them somewhat; though you definitely should look deeper, meta data and "just looking" usually is enough, Photoshop; even when done expertly never looks perfect, and there are image analysis utilities that look for alteration (as it's mostly done by formula and leaves an obvious "marker" forensically).

I have never seen a "fake" bomb-scene in person.

Atlas
18th November 2015, 21:45
Sometimes I think the E.T.s are watching all this happening down here from up there and thinking: "are you guys done yet or what?" :facepalm:

Rachid Taha ft.Mick Jones | Voila Voila - Rock Against Fascism:
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uHy2ILGnEfY

waves
18th November 2015, 21:47
In my view, the above article and picture by david icke must be seen as DISINFO! I'm not sure what side david icke is really on, but if he is trying to point fingers at the west while ignoring the complicity of the rest of the illuminati team, which includes russia, then he is part of the disinfo campaign, a campaign which does NOT and can NOT lead to real understanding or real solution. David Icke is simply promoting the NWO solution under the UN and brics.



The articles are from Davids headline page and he is a journalist as well as researcher . He does not condone or agree with every issue he posts , as do I or anyone , unless its a specific article or piece you wish to highlight.

The author of the article is David Icke as shown directly under the heading. If your belief system regarding him allows you to ignore such blatant nwo promotion like this article, then doesn't it just go to show how easily you can be programmed yourself?

You are absolutely right and I think it's a crucial point to keep in mind in these discussions. Keeping an eye on where you yourself may be programmed entails staying extremely self-aware about the beliefs you have CHOSEN to buy into without any means of proving, and watching what urges you have to make concrete declarations about like "(Icke).. is certainly not a dis info agent." There a big difference between saying that with a slammed door or saying "I am of the belief that...".

Re Icke, I have also now read multiple well thought out arguments showing evidence of duplicity. I'm still in observation and always trying to determine where the line between disinfo and info is with him and possible underlying agenda, especially now that he has slowly gathered such a massive audience.

Thanks for speaking out, Promezeus.

ulli
18th November 2015, 21:50
Anyway, once they are done with Syria, they will target Iran.
They made a plan long time ago, and been successful in implementing it. Iran is next.

Already in the 1930s Iranian Baha'is were told to get out of Iran. I'll look for the text.


The more this event in Paris looks like a complete inside job, the more I think the original plan could be falling apart.

For France to do this to itself, there are more than one way of reading the situation. We know, I think, that France is one of the countries that's getting very fed up with the status quo with the western alliance. They are traditional allies of Russia, only interrupted by the cold war.

It's still unclear what Russia is up to but there are signs they are attacking the lifeblood of the cabal, ISIS OIL, Afghan/Pakistan opium. The wider picture looks like things are shaping up for a huge power shift, and I'm guessing France is ready to jump, EU or no EU, after all, Britain is threatening to cut loose too, but not in any obvious way to do with the power struggle ;)

I hope you are right. The Internet is a factor which makes it harder for them, and people are waking up.
We shall see. The most important thing is to get the suppressed inventions out there. And the agricultural solutions, the water solutions the energy solutions.
Then to have people form cohesive communities and show one another respect, and focus on their human similarities rather than their cultural differences.

Cidersomerset
18th November 2015, 22:05
Just to be clear David Icke is not a 'dis info agent' imo .........

observer
18th November 2015, 22:24
click-on forwarding icon to see TargeT's comment # 391.

The historic "eye-for-an-eye" exchange can be traced back to the Siege of Ma'arra in 1098, when the Crusaders ate dead babies in the presence of their mothers to send a message of "shock-and-awl" to the Muslim adversaries.

"The Siege of Ma'arra", Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Ma%27arra


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn-bCWLeXyQ

BTW: French Crusaders !

jaybee
18th November 2015, 22:28
you can do a hell of a lot with photo shop now apparently - can any image be trusted 100%.... or can it be manipulated to manipulate the person looking at the image..?
.

True, but it takes quite a bit of effort and it's generally accepted that the speed with which the photos hit the internet validates them somewhat; though you definitely should look deeper, meta data and "just looking" usually is enough, Photoshop; even when done expertly never looks perfect, and there are image analysis utilities that look for alteration (as it's mostly done by formula and leaves an obvious "marker" forensically).

YOU might be able to look at the meta data and whatnot but most people could probably be fooled by an expertly manipulated image..? especially if it appealed to their confirmation bias..?

There are a lot of clever geeks out there with political agendas, I think...



I have never seen a "fake" bomb-scene in person.

ok - cheers for your replies :-)

.

norman
18th November 2015, 22:33
Ole Dammegard gives his view, to Alfred Webber:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN89lVPkli0#t=363

I posted this video before I watched it, but, let me tell you, he's picking all kinds of holes in the official story !

jaybee
18th November 2015, 22:45
You are absolutely right and I think it's a crucial point to keep in mind in these discussions. Keeping an eye on where you yourself may be programmed entails staying extremely self-aware about the beliefs you have CHOSEN to buy into without any means of proving, and watching what urges you have to make concrete declarations about like "(Icke).. is certainly not a dis info agent." There a big difference between saying that with a slammed door or saying "I am of the belief that...".

Re Icke, I have also now read multiple well thought out arguments showing evidence of duplicity. I'm still in observation and always trying to determine where the line between disinfo and info is with him and possible underlying agenda, especially now that he has slowly gathered such a massive audience.

Thanks for speaking out, Promezeus.


there may also be an element of addiction to attention to consider as well - addiction to being famous for taking a certain stance - being in the public eye and feeling influential -

it must be quite a buzz being a 'somebody' and being in the thick of it -- - and the adreneline that goes with all that -


basically - I don't think anyone is above scrutiny -

.

Ahnung-quay
18th November 2015, 23:04
Isn't it strange that all of these attacks could occur within a short time frame at multiple locations and no arrests are made until five days later? They must have had their Ninja outfits on or maybe the perpetrators were given the ability to teleport.. It's painful to know that they know that public is so easily duped. Feeling sad for the families and friends of the victims!

Gardener
18th November 2015, 23:34
Thanks for post norman, I was about to post a link to this interview, yes it's hard to listen to and he goes so fast over the historical contexts of all global battles and international 'arrangements' going way back. But very interesting none-the-less.

Douglas Dietrich has a wild and windy perspective on the dynamics behind all this.

This interview is hard to listen to in places due to a poor skype connection but if you skip about the first 30 minutes, he has some VERY interesting things to say. In a nutshell, he thinks the USA did it, to tell the western Europeans to get back in line and stop flirting with Russia/China.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZWsjkDum9g

norman
18th November 2015, 23:39
Ole Dammegard gives his view, to Alfred Webber:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN89lVPkli0#t=363

I posted this video before I watched it, but, let me tell you, he's picking all kinds of holes in the official story !



I just HAVE to bump this interview video.

This guy has spotted so many holes in the story it's mind numbing.


Found this one too, same guy, talks to Kerry Cassidy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvWwglFRwaQ

Gardener
19th November 2015, 00:06
I wonder if Putin is sending a warning to those he knows is behind all of this...
@Rocky - I wonder this too. When I watched the statement he made about the downed Russian airliner, about going after the 'terrorists' I got the distinct impression he was addressing a certain person, so much energy coming out of his eyes; he seemed to say, 'I know who you are and I am coming after you'.

Noted also that the amurican band at the theater were unharmed, and there was also another amurican band (unharmed) a few hundred yards away down the street. Got me thinking about logistics. Especially after I had listened to the DD interview norman posted.

Lots of interlocking stuff going down, might even connect to MH 370, China, and some exotic tech; oh and nano materials.
Someone is going to put all this together fairly soon, and I am leaning towards Putin holding an ace.

TODD & NORA
19th November 2015, 00:38
..........

Sophocles
19th November 2015, 01:16
EU Admits To Buying ISIS Oil Thus Arming Them (sep 2014)

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promezeus
19th November 2015, 01:30
EVERYONE could have done more, but at least the ultimate end state of the human collective is positive, though the tribulations that must transpire to reach our ultimate destiny are horrendous.


pray peace, may I ask what makes you so sure the ultimate end state of the human collective is positive?

observer
19th November 2015, 01:57
Just to point-out, there is a synchronicity to both of these comments. Any assumption of a 'false flag operation' must include the historic significance of the symbology involved.


The Richie Allen Show on Davidicke.com: Jordan Maxwell
On the Paris Attacks, Friday 13th, The Knights Templar and More

By David Icke on 18th November 2015

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click-on forwarding icon to see TargeT's comment # 391.

The historic "eye-for-an-eye" exchange can be traced back to the Siege of Ma'arra in 1098, when the Crusaders ate dead babies in the presence of their mothers to send a message of "shock-and-awl" to the Muslim adversaries.

"The Siege of Ma'arra", Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Ma%27arra


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn-bCWLeXyQ

BTW: French Crusaders !

This historic trail of evidence goes to the alchemical manipulation of our Common Reality.

Clarification:
Alchemy, as practiced by the Global Elite, has been more about the transmutation of the Mass Consciousness of Humanity, thereby controlling our Common Reality, than it has been about transmuting base metals into gold.

Flash
19th November 2015, 06:53
Ole Dammegard gives his view, to Alfred Webber:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN89lVPkli0#t=363

I posted this video before I watched it, but, let me tell you, he's picking all kinds of holes in the official story !



I just HAVE to bump this interview video.

This guy has spotted so many holes in the story it's mind numbing.


Found this one too, same guy, talks to Kerry Cassidy:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvWwglFRwaQ


EXCELLENT IDEA

He is saying that when we know that there is a drill to fight terrorists somewhere, we should go en masse, with first grade cameras plus the cell phone and film everything, making sure we are seen, so that they know it is in the open. To prevent the false flag.

He noticed, and I did too, that before a false flag attack, there is always a drill, which there were in Paris the same morning before the massacre in the evening.

He said they filmed in Danmark a massive drill and in Italy as well and nothing happened there yet.

There were a massive drill ini Montreal a month ago and I was wondering if anything would happen. Nothing yet. i noticed that smaller events happens within 3 months of a drill and larger events ini the same or following days.

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 07:23
There is an angle that is obvious to me as a military history buff from a small boy
when I had my first set of toy soldiers and watched the many war movies and
westerns on TV growing up in the 1960's, and I overlook as a given. For some
War is a way of life , exciting, exhilarating , adrenlin buzz , comrades ,
brotherhood, friends for life, and a licence to kill under the right conditions. Some
Professional soldiers and Generals join for action and long for war the history books
are full of such examples and is a popular part of the entertainment industry.

The normal conscript or patriotic recruits or someone trying to learn a trade in the
various military branches are different and join for other reasons and as Targe T
and others have said in the fog of war, conditioning and many other factors create
conditions for atrocities as well as acts of kindness and help to the innocent
populations they may find selves in. Some wars are necessary and just , even if
looking back in hindsight most have been manipulate by one set of elites or another.

Mercenaries are as old as armies and have always been employed as auxiliaries ,
advisors and they have had a resurgence in the past two decades particularly in the
US as Halliburton and other 'contractors'. This suits many veterans who enjoy the
life and the thrill money and danger that go with it. Then there are the various
intelligence asset mercenaries Al Qaeda ( data Base ) and so on. Again all these are
popular Hollywood movies memes and can be seen on the History channel and docs
and books , and even on the news when you know what Halliburton and others
means .

So there still is in effect the old 'Warrior ' class alive and well just better disguised
than the old imperial European . Ottoman , Asian monarchs and up and coming
nations like the US who only a century ago created WW1 from their own egos and
martial traditions in Empire building. Again there is a lot more that can be said on
this subject from many different viewpoints.

I am just really pointing out that for a few war is a way of life and they enjoy it.
Which I take as most people on here realise but I would just mention it. This is
also where the reptilian / archon , ancient Anunnaki bloodline and other more
exotic theories come into play.

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 07:49
The Richie Allen Show on Davidicke.com: Gearóid ó Colmáin on THAT
Russia Today Interview And The Hidden Hand Behind Paris Attacks


The interview is a little slow to get going but he does give a good speculative
view of the overall current geo - political situation , some of which may or
may not agree with , but all possible scenarios ?

By David Icke on 19th November 2015

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Delight
19th November 2015, 08:19
There is an aspect of this story of nationalism mixed with religious fundamentalsim...it funnels anger.

I am aware that most of the Syrian refugees are men. Young men have high testosterone ...these are the man's active years to establish himself. These refugees do not have their families. they will be at loose ends.

The same kind of being at loose ends is being jobless, living in a war zone, living with discrimination (rascism)and the pejorative live towel head and worse nicknames by the white world. The fear of white men is projected on the other skins. This rage back and forth triggered by fear is CAPTURED by someone to give a cause. The attention and the need is grabbed by the system that plans terror.

I do not doubt that some refugees are on a mssion that is based on their sense of justice/injustice and a Cause to believe in.
That is youthful NEED to do somethig.

We cannot deny that we will have the immigration. The young men are dangerous in their co-option by negativity...gangland religion.

So we need to treat the refugees as a group of youth who need to be respected, invited to participate, welcomed.
If we are going to have humans fleeing war, we need to step up and be adults and actually believe we may mentor refugees and show human kindness.

The terrorist is a young man.

jaybee
19th November 2015, 08:29
I am just really pointing out that for a few war is a way of life and they enjoy it.


I agree - I think adrenaline is addictive and people get used to having their 'fix' -

I would also say this applies to all the thousands of muslims flocking to Iraq and Syria to help create the 'Islamic State'

My view of IS / ISIS / ISIL is that the US, Britain et al, have covertly helped to arm and train some of the groups to use as a proxy army against Assad - they have done this in partnership with Saudi Arabia, Qatar et al and there are big economic deals behind the scenes cementing the unholy alliance -

But to get back to the war adrenaline junkie thing - the Islamists in Iraq and Syria were having the time of their lives - a huge exciting adventure - until Russia came along and spoilt the party -

Whole families, teenages and schoolkids are going over to be part of it because this is IT for them - the big chance, the big adventure to create an Islamic State - (they have been indoctrinated from birth into the religion and so are susceptible to answering the call)

The young men hanging off trucks waving flags and weapons around are loving it all - and enforcing strict Islamic Sharia Law, Saudi style - is probably a huge power buzz for the patriarchs -

I think the adrenaline buzz must also be fueling the terrorist groups going into Europe - and are operating in Europe (and other places) - that and drugs - probably drugs that boost adrenaline...?

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Delight
19th November 2015, 09:31
OF COURSE they want an Islamic State. The history of nations is volatile.

The only way people will ever get over nationslism is by not needing it. We are not showing self organization here in the west yet but we are beginning to see how we have been (insert swear word) by the system. My word is screwed.

I have hated this system all my life. It is at best a good ole boy back room agreement. This agreement is an "oligarchy" shoved down the throat. It is not democracy and gives that ideal a bad name. The system has become so bad that it makes me physically nauseated.

What I hate is that people actually look up to this system of leaders who decide for themselves what we do. We agree because they use our needs against us. Poeple think that the alternatives given them are the only ones available. I glean some as being in my life: Peace=War. Competition=Success. Prejudice=Integrity

This system has been cock fighting men in the name of something important to the man. People want to have a sense of value. It is what is important that gets manipulated. People want to have a life with lesiure and friends, to work, to make a contribution, to "succeed" in a chosen way. People want to see a better future for their children. they have emotional needs for secure environments. People actually all deserve this too just because.

Instead, We are living a situation where we have the results of policies that feed the military industrial war machine .........When bombs hit, it is not the government that dies.

If no war could be fought by any nation, we'd be much better off. How has war ever helped humanity? Why can't we actually refuse to fight? It's because war does support the oligarchy and their minions.

The trickle down is the life politic. Lack of meaningful worknot to mentions the ownership of all our jobs. Jobs, then making food insecure, shelter periodically ravaged keeps the machine oiled. Recovery as a permanent condition.

I think we can start gardening in the yard and refuse to go to get a job that supports the machine. I think we could self organize into practical intercommunity activity that supports and decides. The change is the Spontaneous Evolution.

I am invisioning the new politic. People who have a classless consciousness of community concern honor others rights. This is a consciousness of "what is done to one effects all". People make up communities of communities who can self govern.

We agree on human needs and human values. We have gardens we tend metaphorically and really.

I want to experience a world wide workable system like real democracy. It would have to be from us: organic and local. We cannot export real democracy because if it is real, it must arise from the community.

In that state of organic, local decision making, everyone knows that everyone else is a human being of worth. Everyone has a right to opinions. They are shared and digested. When you cannot please everyone, Majority rules whatever idea does finally gather the support of a majority. It takes town hall kind of meetings to really all have a chance to talk about what is meaningful and make decisions.

So democracy is ideally and practically a small town grassroots enlightened deciding for that community. In sending out decisions about larger issues, the majority rules: Local expanding to county, state and federal. There could be a democracy IF the people all were involved in the decisions.

In the US, we have no coordination between the levels. IMO Instead, the top sends the law down to be managed at the local level.

The Federal Government is the problem. It does not take the states input and carry out what people in the majority could agree upon concerning issues. but is in charge over the local levels.

The fact that we don't even vote directly for the Presidential election is evidence that we are not a democracy.
The ideal of real democracy and how to be citizens and own our community is a beautiful one and it could be grown into. It is IMO an important ideal for now.

IMO by having ideals like this one I have, we start seeing more what we invision. This is important to remember when we are feeling oppressed by those who prefer oligarchy.

transiten
19th November 2015, 09:56
There's an obvious risk being addicted to violent news also. Me myself have a problem with being overly drawn to problems and conflicts due to my dysfunctional upbringing and according to my belief system having choosen a lifetime where this should be adressed.

But as many have said here on Avalon, what you focus on you give energy, so it's of vital importance to balance with spiritual uplifting activities. I have my own rebellious way of wanting to intrude in the most problemoriented threads with something harmonious, beautiful or funny although there are special threads for that. So far noone has complained. Thanks :heart:

idiit
19th November 2015, 11:29
great article until.......


“The giant psychological warfare operation… in Paris, on Friday the 13th, November, 2015, was just part of ongoing horse trading towards a world government…what has resulted from this event. France has implemented martial law and closed its borders. This is classic Gladio strategy…

“…the events in Paris and unreported… events in the Middle East are… [are] part of some very serious infighting between various factions struggling to dominate the world government that is being negotiated.

“According to the Russians the owner of this particular “dog,” [which downed the Russian plane] is the Vanguard Corporation and their subsidiary Raytheon. The owners of this corporate holding company are being systematically hunted down by the Russians. As well as this, there is now a Chinese, Russian, Iranian and Pentagon operation underway in the Middle East that is destroying the power base of the Khazarian mafia and their Israeli slave regime. The massive defeats being faced by the Khazarians and their ISIS subsidiary in the Middle East are of historical significance.

“In addition to that Israel is under economic siege. Israeli arms manufacturers have lost 50% of their sales since 2012 due to an arms embargo. Israel also remains under a Chinese, Russian and Pentagon military blockade that will not be lifted until they withdraw from all illegally occupied territories. Even Israeli lobbying to keep the Golan Heights was rejected.

“The losers in all this will be the Khazarian mafia who are being forced to give up their dream of enslaving humanity into their 1000 year reich. Illuminati sources say they expect another Khazarian incident on or around thanksgiving (November 26th). Actual Russian sources, by the way, put “Putin” in quotation marks because they say he is actually a representative of their collective decision making and not an individual exercising actual leadership.”

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Paris psy-ops is part of ongoing moves towards world government
Posted by benjamin, November 17, 2015


The giant psychological warfare operation, where “ISIS terrorists” allegedly killed over a hundred people in Paris, on Friday the 13th, November, 2015, was just part of ongoing horse trading towards a world government.
To understand this, let us look at some key events surrounding the events in Paris.

First of all, the fact that thousands of witnesses all carrying video phones were unable to record the events of that day alone proves it was just a massive propaganda event, NSA and other sources agree. In addition, all 8 security camera feeds to the areas where the supposed massacres took place had been shut off, implying high level cooperation from the French security police, CIA sources say.

Next, let us look at what has resulted from this event. France has implemented martial law and closed its borders. This is classic Gladio strategy whereby a manufactured terror incident is used to implement a military government.

Furthermore, the French have been pushing, through their proxy Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, to replace the US dollar with the IMF’s SDR. This is to be decided at a meeting on November 30th.

November 30th is also the day when 120 or so world leaders, including those of Russia, the US and China, are to gather in Paris to “discuss global warming.” As anybody who actually checks facts knows, “global warming” has nothing to do with scientific truth and everything to do with forming a world government. The idea is to finance this world government with a global “carbon tax.” The world itself is not warming and even if it was it would be due to solar cycles and not CO2.

However, the events in Paris and unreported but even more dramatic events in the Middle East are, nonetheless, part of some very serious infighting between various factions struggling to dominate the world government that is being negotiated.

There is also conflicting evidence about exactly who staged the events in Paris and other similar psy-ops that are appearing with increasing regularity.

The Russians, still furious about the shooting down of their airplane on Halloween (October 31st), say it was the same people behind that as were behind the events in Paris. Russian President Vladimir Putting is saying he will “not deal with the dog that has bitten him, it is the owner of the dog who will be held responsible.”

According to the Russians the owner of this particular “dog,” is the Vanguard Corporation and their subsidiary Raytheon. The owners of this corporate holding company are being systematically hunted down by the Russians.

As well as this, there is now a Chinese, Russian, Iranian and Pentagon operation underway in the Middle East that is destroying the power base of the Khazarian mafia and their Israeli slave regime. The massive defeats being faced by the Khazarians and their ISIS subsidiary in the Middle East are of historical significance.

The Russians say “‘Putin’* bombed several ISIS oil-producing companies and a motorcade with oil that was already bought by ISIS business partners, and ‘Maniac Putin’ bombed ISIL refineries.” In other words they have started attacking the owners of ISIS in their wallets where it really hurts. They say this is just a beginning.

Pentagon and CIA sources agree with the Russians that the Khazarian mafia and their proxy Israel are reeling under unprecedented attack. Inside Syria, government forces have recaptured Aleppo, the second largest city in that country. In addition, ISIS have lost the city of Ramadi and the town of Sinjar in Iraq.

Furthermore, the Russians are carrying out airstrikes against Khazarian proxy forces in Lebanon while the Americans are attacking them in Libya. This is having the effect of cutting off all their oil and drug income.

In addition to that Israel is under economic siege. Israeli arms manufacturers have lost 50% of their sales since 2012 due to an arms embargo.

Israel also remains under a Chinese, Russian and Pentagon military blockade that will not be lifted until they withdraw from all illegally occupied territories. Even Israeli lobbying to keep the Golan Heights was rejected.

Both the Pentagon and the Russians believe the Khazarian mob and their ISIS proxies staged the Paris attacks as revenge against these setbacks. Pentagon sources say the attacks were a failed effort to get NATO to fight on behalf of Israel in Syria. Instead, the G20 nations just meeting in Turkey agreed that Israel and their bribed politicians in the United States were the leading world cause of terrorism.

The Russians are, for their part, also saying that France was targeted because the French and the Germans were trying to stop the Kazarian mobs’ distribution of forged “super-k” dollars in the Ukraine.

The refugee crisis is also seen by the Russians as punishment against the Europeans. The Russians say they have forensically traced all the twitter accounts encouraging refugees to go to Europe to the city of San Francisco in the United States.

There may be a deeper agenda at work though. For one thing the refugee crisis has forced most countries in the EU to re-impose border controls. At the same time an emerging socialist government in Portugal is asking for a reduction in debt payments, likely reigniting the debt crisis that is still sputtering away in Greece. If they get a cut in debt payments then Spain, Italy and Greece will ask for the same and thus threaten the Euro.

Remember the European Parliament Building was designed many years ago to resemble to Tower of Babel. The Tower of Babel collapsed making one wonder if the Euro government was also designed, from the beginning to collapse.

Next remember the January cover of the Rothschild owned Economist magazine featuring two arrows with the numbers 115 and 113, a close match to 151113, the date of the Paris attacks. Right beside the arrows in the picture is Alice from Alice in Wonderland staring at a Da Vinci Portrait that is in the Louvre Museum in Paris.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/economist-2015-cover-filled-cryptic-symbols-dire-predictions

The portrait in the Louvre is of a woman who, the story goes, was mistress to the King of France. Her husband, to get revenge on the king, infected himself with syphilis in order to pass it on to the king through his wife.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_belle_ferronni%C3%A8re

So, if we are to speculate further, the attacks in Paris were a long planned revenge against the bloodline French establishment by anti-bloodline Illuminati.

Occult speculation aside, since the Germans pay the most into the Euro and the French benefit the most, the end of the Euro would hurt France most of all. So, clearly the French establishment benefits from martial law in such circumstances.

Also, as mentioned at the top of this article, there is a big world gathering starting in Paris on November 30th to discuss “global warming” aka “global governing.” Again martial law and closed borders would help protect the 120 world leaders gathering there.

As most of the speeches by world leaders at the UN 70th anniversary bash in September made clear, there is a consensus that changes need to be made in how we run the planet. The countries that did not share in the American, British, Chinese, French and Russian World War 2 victory table want these countries to give up their monopoly on vetoes in the UN Security Council. Most countries also agree that more needs to be done to fight poverty and end environmental destruction.

There is clearly a consensus among current world leaders that some sort of new rules for running the planet, essentially some sort of world government, is needed.

So what are the identifiable factions in the negotiations towards a world government?

The French, Germans and their European allies are pushing to make the IMF the most powerful instrument of their New World Order by inviting the Chinese to join them at the SDR table and thus replace the US dollar with something they control.

The only problem with this is that the IMF has a horrific track record of raping, looting and impoverishing countries in order to benefit large corporations. Nobody wants an IMF world government except the people who now control the IMF.

The Pentagon and the US military industrial complex are pushing for a meritocratic world government of the sort seen in Star Trek. The Gnostic Illuminati also support this.

The Chinese also believe in meritocracy but with one important difference, they want to make sure any meritocratic world government doesn’t end up being controlled by Westerners.

That is why there is a proxy fight going on between the military industrial faction (stronghold of the illuminati) and the Chinese. This is being seen in the US military taking over the Federal Reserve Board dollar printing press inside the United States and the Chinese reaction of cutting off trade credit to the US.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-15/global-trade-still-freefall-imports-collapse-largest-three-us-ports

The Americans are reacting by offering countries around China “protection” against the Chinese. They advertise their willingness to stand up to China by sending planes and ships into disputed territories controlled by China.

At the end of the day the Chinese and the US/Western military industrial faction are likely to find some sort of compromise involving greater non-Western control of world institutions. The reason is because the alternative, World War 3 and the destruction of 90% of the planet, is unthinkable. In other words, given a choice between win-win and lose-lose, it’s easy to guess who win-wins.

The losers in all this will be the Khazarian mafia who are being forced to give up their dream of enslaving humanity into their 1000 year reich. Illuminati sources say they expect another Khazarian incident on or around thanksgiving (November 26th).

*Actual Russian sources, by the way, put “Putin” in quotation marks because they say he is actually a representative of their collective decision making and not an individual exercising actual leadership.

great article until.......the "ad hominems" see the source: :)


FULL ARTICLE Benjamin Fulford 11-17-15… “Paris psy-ops is part of ongoing moves towards world government”

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2015/11/19/full-article-benjamin-fulford-11-17-15-paris-psy-ops-is-part-of-ongoing-moves-towards-world-government/

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Hervé
19th November 2015, 12:47
Breaking: Suspected Paris attack mastermind killed in police raid - prosecutors (https://www.rt.com/news/322704-paris-attack-mastermind-killed/)

Published time: 19 Nov, 2015 12:36
Edited time: 19 Nov, 2015 13:03

The alleged mastermind and sponsor of attacks in the French capital on Friday, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, was killed during an anti-terrorist operation in the Paris suburb of Saint-Denis on Wednesday, Paris prosecutor François Molins said.

Following the deadly attacks that killed at least 129 people, reports emerged that Abaaoud, 27, an active Islamic State executioner in Syria, could be behind the massacre.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CT67-vTWUAA7xsy.jpg

On Wednesday morning French police and army launched an anti-terrorist raid in the suburb of Saint-Denis, killing at least 2 radicals. Later in the day reports claimed that Abaaoud, who was the target of that operation, was killed in the raid.

Abaaoud is said to be from the Brussels suburb of Molenbeek, notorious for being an Islamist hotspot. It is the same area where another suspect in the Paris attacks, Salah Abdeslam, was raised.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CT6dPKnW4AAWL-c.jpg

Abaaoud's name was mentioned in a series of planned attacks across Belgium in January. He was one of the leaders of terrorist cells in the town of Verviers, near the Belgian border with Germany.

His body was found under the wreckage of the building in Saint-Denis, which was stormed in Wednesday's raid.

"Abdel Hamid Abaaoud has just been formally identified and certified killed during the raid, after comparing fingerprints," the statement said. "It was the bullet-ridden body we discovered in the building," Paris persecutor François Molins said.

Abaaoud’s nationality and citizenship are as yet unclear. Reports claim he was a Belgian national of Moroccan origin.



URGENT
Le commanditaire présumé des attentats du 13 novembre a été tué durant le raid à Saint-Denis (parquet) (http://www.france24.com/fr/urgent/20151119-le-commanditaire-presume-attentats-13-novembre-a-ete-tue-durant-le-raid-a-saint-denis-parquet)

araucaria
19th November 2015, 13:25
There's an obvious risk being addicted to violent news also. Me myself have a problem with being overly drawn to problems and conflicts due to my dysfunctional upbringing and according to my belief system having choosen a lifetime where this should be adressed.

But as many have said here on Avalon, what you focus on you give energy, so it's of vital importance to balance with spiritual uplifting activities. I have my own rebellious way of wanting to intrude in the most problemoriented threads with something harmonious, beautiful or funny although there are special threads for that. So far noone has complained. Thanks :heart:
Thank you for that, transiten. As I reported earlier, I was in Paris close to where the attacks took place a week before. I was there to buy a piano, which was delivered to my home on the morning of Friday the 13th. Hence the hard reality I have to associate with that place and that date is the harmony of music-making, both then and every day. That is not love and light, it is the hard reality of my personal situation. The pictures that come to me through the media and the Internet of something very different are less real to me than that. This is not the first time this has happened in recent months. As I reported in the Here and Now thread, in September I was in the Bordeaux area, in the village next to the scene of a coach disaster that killed 43 people in October.

So the question becomes insistent: how do the two realities interrelate? (And this is only the tip of the iceberg, because we are told that while we think of the dead in Paris we ignore many more killed in Syria and elsewhere.) The answer is that they don’t interrelate that much at all: we are playing a game of duality, i.e. black and white. You have a choice between playing black or white; when you’ve made that choice, you are simply black or white. You know which side you are on and are up for this contest. If you are any one of 50 shades of grey, you are not even a pawn, playing a minor role in a game of chess. You are more like part of a “grey area”, such as the empty territory over which players compete in the game of Go (of which, I hasten to add, I am not a practitioner). Since gains are made through the strength and interconnectedness of groups of individual pieces (stones), this game, which originated in China, operates in many ways that are more in keeping with what we are trying to achieve than say chess or backgammon. The Wikipedia article is well worth reading with that in mind. Excerpt:

Backgammon is a "man vs. fate" contest, with chance playing a strong role in determining the outcome. Chess, with rows of soldiers marching forward to capture each other, embodies the conflict of "man vs. man". Because the handicap system tells Go players where they stand relative to other players, an honestly ranked player can expect to lose about half of their games; therefore, Go can be seen as embodying the quest for self-improvement, "man vs. self". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_%28game%29 Interestingly, backgammon is a popular game in Mediterranean countries like Greece, Turkey or Egypt, and with roots back in… Sumer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Game_of_Ur ). On the other hand, chess is more popular in the west, and the battles between the American Bobby Fischer and the Soviets Karpov and Kasparov, I remember, were quite a warm part of the Cold War. Hence, if we apply game theory to the present international situation, what we have is a metacontest, a contest of contests: ‘a "man vs. fate" contest’ confronting ‘the conflict of "man vs. man"’. Others like ourselves, ‘embodying the quest for self-improvement, "man vs. self"’, can only look on from the sideline, or better still, focus on their own game.

transiten
19th November 2015, 13:27
Interesting article from the Guardian by an ISIS captive for 10 months on the psychology of the terrorists:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/16/isis-bombs-hostage-syria-islamic-state-paris-attacks?CMP=share_btn_fb

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TargeT
19th November 2015, 13:59
EXCELLENT IDEA

He is saying that when we know that there is a drill to fight terrorists somewhere, we should go en masse, with first grade cameras plus the cell phone and film everything, making sure we are seen, so that they know it is in the open. To prevent the false flag.

He noticed, and I did too, that before a false flag attack, there is always a drill, which there were in Paris the same morning before the massacre in the evening.

He said they filmed in Danmark a massive drill and in Italy as well and nothing happened there yet.

There were a massive drill ini Montreal a month ago and I was wondering if anything would happen. Nothing yet. i noticed that smaller events happens within 3 months of a drill and larger events ini the same or following days.

it would be more reasonable to maybe have a website that tracks them and puts out warnings?

something like:

9/11, 7/7 bombings, Boston Marathon bombings, and Paris Attacks all have one thing in common: a "terrorism" drill was happening the same day, often with the exact same scenario being played out as the real attacks.

Your area __________________ has the following "Terrorism" drill scheduled at __________________ (if known) the scenario is _____________________. Be ready!

or a website that tracked them and correlated plausibility statistics (for example, a drill in Italy wouldn't concern me as a plausible false flag target, though Paris wouldn't have either honestly... but I hadn't been looking into the political environment of France at all) a list of drill dates with a comment section where people could post theories of why that site is / is not a plausible target, most drill area's aren't.

There are a lot of these drills going on; not too many, but too many to mobilize people for every one that happens.

RunningDeer
19th November 2015, 14:03
Ole Dammegard gives his view, to Alfred Webber:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN89lVPkli0#t=363

I posted this video before I watched it, but, let me tell you, he's picking all kinds of holes in the official story !

I'm an hour and sixteen minutes into it.:thumbsup:

promezeus
19th November 2015, 14:19
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-19/china-joins-norway-in-condemning-islamic-state-hostage-killings

So here we have china president joining all major media, including most alternative media, in misdirecting and distracting attention to isis or the west and away from the actual culprits behind the scenes, which of course is nwo, including brics, UN, and their proxies.

So...

Now world is being directed like stage play to unite behind fight against isis, the nwo created bogeyman........

Next in 2016 world will be directed to unite like sheeple behind fight against nwo created bogeyman called Aliens in the form of holographic, fake, alien invasion?

Hervé
19th November 2015, 14:33
The French President was quick to call it an act of war.

That sounds like his first priority from the get go was to try to invoke the NATO treaty rules to bring all members in to help France with a military objective.
[...]

Why didn't Paris ask NATO for help against ISIL? Do they trust Russia more? (http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151119/1030371981/russia-france-nato-isis-syria.html)

Sputnik (http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151119/1030371981/russia-france-nato-isis-syria.html) Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:02 UTC


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© Maxim Malinovsky/Agence France-Press

Several hours after the world woke up to the night of terror in Paris, French President Francois Hollande declared that the attacks were "an act of war" executed and planned by ISIL.

"Faced with war, the country must take appropriate action," he added, prompting many to say that the French leader could then invoke Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, which stipulates that an attack on one country should be treated as an attack on all NATO members.

This is not what happened.

In the days following the attack, France enhanced its counterterrorism activities in Syria. French fighter jets are conducting more airstrikes against ISIL targets, made possible to a large extent by having greater access to US intelligence data.

[...]

Full article: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151119/1030371981/russia-france-nato-isis-syria.html

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Instead, Hollande called upon a European Union clause to get support from its European partners.

norman
19th November 2015, 14:52
The French President was quick to call it an act of war.

That sounds like his first priority from the get go was to try to invoke the NATO treaty rules to bring all members in to help France with a military objective.
[...]

Why didn't Paris ask NATO for help against ISIL? Do they trust Russia more? (http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151119/1030371981/russia-france-nato-isis-syria.html)

Sputnik (http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151119/1030371981/russia-france-nato-isis-syria.html) Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:02 UTC


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© Maxim Malinovsky/Agence France-Press

Several hours after the world woke up to the night of terror in Paris, French President Francois Hollande declared that the attacks were "an act of war" executed and planned by ISIL.

"Faced with war, the country must take appropriate action," he added, prompting many to say that the French leader could then invoke Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, which stipulates that an attack on one country should be treated as an attack on all NATO members.

This is not what happened.

In the days following the attack, France enhanced its counterterrorism activities in Syria. French fighter jets are conducting more airstrikes against ISIL targets, made possible to a large extent by having greater access to US intelligence data.

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Full article: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151119/1030371981/russia-france-nato-isis-syria.html

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Instead, Hollande called upon a European Union clause to get support from its European partners.

That's how I see it, mainly. France can act in an almost identical way as Russia, in Syria ( and Iraq? ), as a result of this Paris event. The whole of Europe is now in a position to act without America. I'm more inclined to think they are getting their intel' from Russia, not America.

Putin may well be offering a hand of friendship to the whole of Europe right now, on the condition that they move towards a realignment of allies in the bigger picture.

I can even imagine that the whole thing is being orchestrated as the way to maintain "stability", globally, while the legs are kicked out from under America and it's dropped into it's own footprint in readiness for the NWO format of things later.

Hervé
19th November 2015, 15:01
Here is that call to the EU for financial and/or military support:

All for one: 28 EU states agree on first-ever military support to France (https://www.rt.com/news/322429-france-military-assistance-eu/)

Published time: 17 Nov, 2015 13:38
Edited time: 17 Nov, 2015 13:43


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The flags of France and the EU fly at half staff in response to attacks in Paris, outside of the French consulate in New York November 14, 2015. © Lucas Jackson / Reuters


France has invoked an EU treaty collective defense article requesting military help from its European partners in response to the terror attacks in Paris. EU officials say the mutual defense article is being used for the first time.

The assistance would come from 28 European partners under Article 42.7 of the EU’s Lisbon Treaty, which outlines mutual defense among the EU members. Called the ‘mutual defense clause’, the Article (http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/sede/dv/sede200612mutualdefsolidarityclauses_/sede200612mutualdefsolidarityclauses_en.pdf) reads that if any EU country “is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.”

Speaking at a press conference in Brussels on Tuesday, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said all 28 EU member states unanimously accepted France's formal call for “aid and assistance” under the EU treaty and he expected all to help quickly in various regions, Reuters reports.

“This is firstly a political act,” Le Drian said of the decision to invoke article on mutual defense of the EU treaty.

The minister said France at this time does not have sufficient capabilities to wage several different military operations simultaneously, and expects full military support from its European partners.

“Beyond that, how is this going to work? It may be by cooperating with French interventions in Syria, in Iraq, it may be in support of France in other operations,” Le Drian said, quoted as saying by RTL.

The EU treaty mentions certain security issues, but Paris preferred to resort to mutual defense article instead of using Article 222, the so-called ‘solidarity clause’. It specifically tackles the issue of response to European countries in case of a terrorist attack and requires EU members to “mobilize all the instruments at its disposal, including military resources.”

The EU’s chief of diplomacy Federica Mogherini confirmed France will receive military assistance, but on bilateral tracks. The assistance is not to come from the EU as a whole within the so-called Common Security and Defense Policy, which is a European collective security system, according to RIA Novosti.

“We will continue to work together on bilateral basis during next days,” she said.

Paris did not choose to employ Article 5 of NATO’s Washington treaty, which says an attack on one is attack on all, although the EU’s mutual defense clause provides no common military infrastructure within the European Union itself.

France has launched a massive air campaign against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) targets in Raqqa, Syria, following Friday’s terrorist attacks in Paris. On Sunday, 12 French aircraft, including 10 fighter jets, took part in the country’s biggest air raid over Syria. The strike, coordinated with the United States, was carried out simultaneously from Jordan and the United Arab Emirates.

norman
19th November 2015, 15:07
Here is that call to the EU for financial and/or military support:

All for one: 28 EU states agree on first-ever military support to France (https://www.rt.com/news/322429-france-military-assistance-eu/)

Published time: 17 Nov, 2015 13:38
Edited time: 17 Nov, 2015 13:43


http://www.sott.net/image/s14/282362/large/564b0dcec4618807148b45a7.jpg
The flags of France and the EU fly at half staff in response to attacks in Paris, outside of the French consulate in New York November 14, 2015. © Lucas Jackson / Reuters


France has invoked an EU treaty collective defense article requesting military help from its European partners in response to the terror attacks in Paris. EU officials say the mutual defense article is being used for the first time.

The assistance would come from 28 European partners under Article 42.7 of the EU’s Lisbon Treaty, which outlines mutual defense among the EU members. Called the ‘mutual defense clause’, the Article (http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2009_2014/documents/sede/dv/sede200612mutualdefsolidarityclauses_/sede200612mutualdefsolidarityclauses_en.pdf) reads that if any EU country “is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter.”

Speaking at a press conference in Brussels on Tuesday, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said all 28 EU member states unanimously accepted France's formal call for “aid and assistance” under the EU treaty and he expected all to help quickly in various regions, Reuters reports.

“This is firstly a political act,” Le Drian said of the decision to invoke article on mutual defense of the EU treaty.

The minister said France at this time does not have sufficient capabilities to wage several different military operations simultaneously, and expects full military support from its European partners.

“Beyond that, how is this going to work? It may be by cooperating with French interventions in Syria, in Iraq, it may be in support of France in other operations,” Le Drian said, quoted as saying by RTL.

The EU treaty mentions certain security issues, but Paris preferred to resort to mutual defense article instead of using Article 222, the so-called ‘solidarity clause’. It specifically tackles the issue of response to European countries in case of a terrorist attack and requires EU members to “mobilize all the instruments at its disposal, including military resources.”

The EU’s chief of diplomacy Federica Mogherini confirmed France will receive military assistance, but on bilateral tracks. The assistance is not to come from the EU as a whole within the so-called Common Security and Defense Policy, which is a European collective security system, according to RIA Novosti.

“We will continue to work together on bilateral basis during next days,” she said.

Paris did not choose to employ Article 5 of NATO’s Washington treaty, which says an attack on one is attack on all, although the EU’s mutual defense clause provides no common military infrastructure within the European Union itself.

France has launched a massive air campaign against Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) targets in Raqqa, Syria, following Friday’s terrorist attacks in Paris. On Sunday, 12 French aircraft, including 10 fighter jets, took part in the country’s biggest air raid over Syria. The strike, coordinated with the United States, was carried out simultaneously from Jordan and the United Arab Emirates.

It does indeed look like the countries of Europe are getting on a bus together, with all this. I wonder just what Putin and Obama said to each other at the G12?

norman
19th November 2015, 15:24
Whosoever's idea it was to screw up Europe with masses of refugees from the middle east, may be having to re think things right now. Russia has done more to stop the flow of refugees out of the middle east into Europe in just a few weeks than the rest had managed in 3 years.

That's a very common bond for Russia to work with throughout Europe.

Hervé
19th November 2015, 15:45
Whosoever's idea it was to screw up Europe with masses of refugees from the middle east, may be having to re think things right now.
[...]

Albert Pike's heirs?


"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."



Pike letter to Giuseppe Mazzini (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_masonsknightstemplar15.htm)

promezeus
19th November 2015, 15:51
Why do many of us continue talking in terms of separate countries or alliances acting in their own individual interests, when in fact what we are seeing play out here is actually a more or less unified global force i.e. NWO attacking the ordinary citizens of the planet?

Are you Voluntarily contributing to the very illusion that 'they' wish to promote.

The focus of our post reveals our unconscious mentality.....

norman
19th November 2015, 16:29
Why do many of us continue talking in terms of separate countries or alliances acting in their own individual interests, when in fact what we are seeing play out here is actually a more or less unified global force i.e. NWO attacking the ordinary citizens of the planet?

Are you Voluntarily contributing to the very illusion that 'they' wish to promote.

The focus of our post reveals our unconscious mentality.....







I can even imagine that the whole thing is being orchestrated as the way to maintain "stability", globally, while the legs are kicked out from under America and it's dropped into it's own footprint in readiness for the NWO format of things later.





For my part, I tend to break the big picture down to it's component actors as a means to give my big picture greater acutance and mapping in my mental processes.

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 16:48
Late today as busy at work , more articles from the headline page

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French Jewish community warned on Friday morning of
Paris Attacks – Times of Israel changed story to hide inside intelligence

By David Icke on 19th November 2015

‘Why did the Times of Israel change their story from being warned “Just Friday”
to “For months?” They either do not want the world to know they are privileged
having a direct line to government intel or they’re ashamed of hoarding the info
and not sharing it with the rest of France, considering what happened on Friday
night where 129+ non Jewish French and other European people were mass
murdered. Changing the story only makes them look foolish.

Did the Jewish owner of the Bataclan theatre also receive special insider info of
a potentenial terrorist attack in a theatre, considering how he sold the theatre
Septermber 11th (Yes really!)’

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French Jewish community warned on Friday morning of
#ParisAttacks - Times of Israel changed story to hide inside intel
2015-11-18 5:17

By Red Ice

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Why did the Times of Israel change their story from being warned "Just Friday" to
"For months?" (Click for larger image) Hat tip: Colin McKay @DerorCurrency

A terrorist attack comes as no surpsise or great prediction considering the ongoing
invasion of Europe where thousands of unchecked, potentially hostile men pour
through the gates of Europe everyday. Remember, we know at least one of the
terrorists was a "refugee."

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‘Pitiless war’: Illegal French airstrikes on Syria hit stadium, museum and clinics

By David Icke on 19th November 2015 War and Terror

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"Pitiless war": Illegal French airstrikes on Syria hit stadium, museum, clinics

David Raven, Anna Dubius
Mirror, UK
Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:26 UTC

‘Anti-ISIS activists in Syria claim a stadium, a museum, medical clinics and a political
building have been hit after France launched airstrikes in retaliation for the Paris terror attack.

Raqqa Is Being Slaughtered Silently, a group of anonymous activists inside the ISIS
stronghold, wrote that heavy strikes had been taking place since this morning. The
group began documenting the airstrikes at around 8am and said it had increased to
“30 airstrikes” this evening. No civilian casualties have been reported yet, according
to the group.

A spokesperson for the group suggested it was France who were behind the bombs.
They said water and electricity was cut due to the strikes. They added: “It’s sad how
it always falls on our heads, god bless and safe [sic]the civilians of Raqqa.”‘

Read more: ‘Pitiless war’: Illegal French airstrikes on Syria hit stadium, museum and clinics

http://www.sott.net/article/306522-Pitiless-war-Illegal-French-airstrikes-on-Syria-hit-stadium-museum-clinics

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RT NEWS....

UK military action in Syria will be 'legal' without UNSC resolution - PM Cameron

Published time: 18 Nov, 2015 18:15

‘British Prime Minister David Cameron said on Wednesday that “any action” his
country might take in Syria is “legal” even without a UN Security Council resolution.

“It is always preferable in these circumstances to have the full backing of the United
Nations Security Council (UNSC) but I have to say what matters most of all is that
any action we would take would… be legal,” Cameron said while speaking at the
House of Commons. He added that such action “would help protect” the UK.

The prime minister has long been trying to get approval to extend UK military action
to Syria, with London already involved in airstrikes against Islamic State (IS, formerly
ISIS/ISIL) terrorists in Iraq. Parliament rejected a vote to extend the bombing
campaign to Syria in 2013.’

Read more: UK military action in Syria will be ‘legal’ without UNSC resolution – PM Cameron

https://www.rt.com/uk/322617-cameron-syria-legal-resolution/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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Russia rejects preconditions on Assad future

By David Icke on 19th November 2015 War and Terror


Russia rejects preconditions on Assad future
Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:3PM

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‘Russia has called on world powers to unite in their fight against terrorism without setting
any preconditions on the future of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov made the remarks after meeting his Lebanese
counterpart Gebran Bassil in the Russian capital city of Moscow on Wednesday.

“It seems to me there are no longer any doubts that it is simply unacceptable to put forward
any preconditions for joining forces in the fight against terror,” Lavrov said.’

Read more: Russia rejects preconditions on Assad future

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/18/438209/Russia-France-Paris-Bashar-Assad

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 17:00
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Paris attacks: 'Ringleader' Abdelhamid Abaaoud killed in raid

39 minutes ago
From the section Europe

The suspected ringleader of the Paris attacks, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, was
among those killed in a French police raid on Wednesday, prosecutors say.

They confirmed the Islamic State (IS) militant had died in a flat in the Paris
suburb of Saint Denis.

His body was found riddled with bullets and shrapnel in the apartment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34867615

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Published on 19 Nov 2015

The alleged mastermind and sponsor of attacks in the French capital on Friday,
Abdelhamid Abaaoud, was killed during an anti-terrorist operation in the Paris
suburb of Saint-Denis on Wednesday, Paris prosecutor François Molins said. Read More: http://on.rt.com/6x00


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Un-Welcome? Europeans change stance on refugees after Paris attacks

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Published on 19 Nov 2015

One of the key clues in the Paris attacks probe is a Syrian passport found next to the
body of one of the suicide bombers. The question being asked now is whether one of
the terrorists could have entered Europe as a refugee.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

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Numerous terror attacks go unnoticed amid Paris attacks buzz

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Published on 19 Nov 2015

Social media users are embracing the #PrayForNigeria hashtag, criticizing main
stream media for ignoring or underreporting the latest terrorist attacks there, as an
outpour of prayers and sympathy continues to flow to victims of Islamic State in Paris.

READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6wyh

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Media Duped: Minister Admits Syrian Passport ‘Likely Planted’ at Scene of Paris Attacks

By David Icke on 19th November 2015

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MEDIA DUPED: Minister Admits Syrian Passport ‘Likely Planted’ at Scene of Paris Attacks

November 18, 2015 By 21wire 7 Comments
21st Century Wire says…

‘While the mainstream media, led by the diligent ‘team’ at CNN, were busy spinning-up
their ‘official’ conspiracy theory about magic passports lying around at scene of the Paris
Attacks, 21WIRE told its readers and listeners that it might be prudent to question this
obvious weak link in the official story.

As the ‘Syrian Passport’ meme spread like wildfire through the western media and various
political corridors, a viral wave was triggered – and mass hysteria swept through western
political institutions, prompting calls to shut European borders, and was predictable seized
upon by Republican Party candidates in the US who were all-too eager to assuage the fears
of their supporters and constituents who were worked-up into a frenzy by an irresponsible
mainstream media. Some marginal GOP presidential candidates even called for shutting
America’s borders.’

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As 21WIRE pointed out previously, just as the media unveiled its Magic Passport leg of the
story last Saturday, no sooner did they withdraw it, before taking rear guard action claiming
that the passports were ‘fake’, or forgeries. For anyone with a brain, this should have been
a huge red flag, but for the legions of overpaid media operatives – it was just another blind
turn in an increasingly unbelievable story.

Read more: Media Duped: Minister Admits Syrian Passport ‘Likely Planted’

http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/11/18/media-duped-minister-admits-syrian-passport-likely-planted-at-scene-of-paris-attacks/

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Place sanctions on banks and states funding ISIS, says Corbyn

By David Icke on 19th November 2015

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States and financial institutions suspected of managing or providing funds to
Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) should have sanctions placed on them,
Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn told MPs.

Speaking to the House of Commons, the Labour leader urged Parliament to take
more action to clamp down on institutions which provide “vital infrastructure” to the
terror group in Syria and Iraq.

Corbyn said one of the main ways to stop IS from functioning is to cut off its
resources, suggesting the EU would also need to play a part in suffocating the
organization.’

https://www.rt.com/uk/322605-corbyn-sanctions-isis-funding/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 17:50
If you really want to know what part of Paris is about its the mil & large corporate
interests inter woven with the elites and 'Dark ' forces who run this planet.
Economic cycles ,insider trading , Banking , tax , and budget fraud are all part of
these false flag attacks as well as loss of freedoms and plenty of death and targets
to fire there weapons at , so they can produce more weapons and continue the
chaos, to which at some appropriate time the plan for the NWO , will be the agenda
on all Politicians lips as it was before and after 9/11 .

Order out of Chaos, the plan was for it to be rolled out around the 2007 -10 mark ,
if you look at the banking collapse , the thwarted attempts to attack Iran by Israel
thru Georgia, by Russia it was really revving up back then, See Bills 'Anglo Saxon
mission' and other vids at the time. It calmed down a bit with the Arab spring and
the agenda switched to ISIS /ISIL and the funding and ' pretend ' attacks on them
by the US / French led coalition.Russian intervention has changed the focus and
forced the coalition into changing their plans , which is where we are now.....

Again this is not new as Peter Scot pointed out in the vid posted on here yesterday,
the current criminal cabal in the US grew out of WW11.....President Eisenhower
summed it up eerily accurately , and he should have known as he was supreme
allied commander in the West and oversaw D Day and the defeat of Germany on
the western allied side. ' listen ' to his prophetic words they are eerily similar to
what is happening today and what he was warning against.The JFK coup , just two
years later and the escalation of Vietnam and the 'Cold War'arms race has been
manipulated into policies that have been carried out by lame duck picked Presidents,
carrying out the agendas of their corporate masters.

Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex.

8y06NSBBRtY

Dwight D. Eisenhower exit speech on Jan.17,1961.
Warning us of the military industrial complex.

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Military Industrial Complex Stocks Soaring Since Paris Attacks
November 18, 2015 By Stuart Hooper 1 Comment

21st Century Wire says…

A lot of people are making a lot of money from the rise of terrorism.

Watch a video of this report here:

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While travel and tourism-related stocks have suffered since last Friday’s terror
attacks in Paris, defence industry stocks have seen all-time highs since the rise
of ISIS as investors keep pouring their cash into weapons.

Military Industrial Complex heavyweights had a great opening at the New York
Stock Exchange on Monday, with Lockheed Martin trading 3.5 percent higher,
Northrop Grumman up 4.4 percent, and Raytheon up 4 percent.

Despite French markets being down overall, stocks of Thales, a French
defence giant, were up 3 percent.

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The rise of terrorism has been very good for business in the defence sector, and
the post-9/11 ‘War on Terror’ was even credited with driving the American
economy back into good standing.

David Berteau, a defense industry analyst at the Center for Strategic and International
Studies, told USA Today back in 2011 that “We’re about to go into the downhill side of
the roller coaster here,” as the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan wound down.

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The rise of ISIS has, however, re-inflated the Military Industrial Complex’s bubble.
Northrop Grumman is trading at $263 a share, up 160 percent from 2013, and
Lockheed Martin is up 150 percent, at $221 a share. Thales stocks were also up
160 percent, at $102.

Meanwhile in the UK, while citizens are being forced to accept devastating austerity cuts,
£1.9 billion ($2.9B) is about to be injected into ‘cyber security’ to counter ISIS hackers.

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David Cameron has also announced that £2 billion ($3B) will be spent on British special
forces units, meanwhile British schoolchildren are suffering from a crisis of malnutrition.

How exactly can it be right to force austerity cuts onto the population while making huge
investments into the military industrial complex?If, perhaps, the ISIS threat could not be
traced back to Western roots, then maybe it would make sense!

READ MORE ON THE PARIS ATTACKS: 21st Century Wire Paris Files

http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/11/18/military-industrial-complex-stocks-soaring-since-paris-attacks/

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Why Saudi is our ' Bestest ' Buddy in the Arab world.....

US to sell smart bombs worth $1.29 billion to Saudi Arabia

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

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PRESS TV.......

US to sell smart bombs worth $1.29 billion to Saudi Arabia

Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:35PM

http://217.218.67.233/photo/20151116/291b6c62-9c74-4332-98de-3bf7f8f1a061.jpg


‘The United States will sell smart bombs worth of $1.29 billion to Saudi Arbia as
the monarchy continues relentless raids against its impoverished neighbor.

The Pentagon said on Monday that the US State Department has approved the
sale to supply Riyadh for war on Yemen, which has taken the lives of thousands
in the Arab world’s poorest country.

The Saudi aggression has reportedly claimed the lives of more than 7,100 people
and injured nearly 14,000 others. The strikes have also taken a heavy toll on the
country’s facilities and infrastructure, destroying many hospitals, schools, and factories.’

Read more: US to sell smart bombs worth $1.29 billion to Saudi Arabia

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/16/437947/us-saudi-arabia-aggression-yemen-pentagon-ansarullah

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Its still one of the ultimate goals of the elites agenda.......


New world order quotes from different world leaders from before 9/11 to 2015

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George H. W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, Joe Biden, Micheil Saakasjvili, Bill Clinton,
Strobe Talbot, Richard Nixon, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Ricardo Lagos, Barack
Obama, 02:46 ?, Al Gore, Stephen Harper, John Kerry, David Gergen, Paul Martin,
04:23 ?, David Rockefellar, George Soros, Jacob Rothschild.

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 18:12
Why do many of us continue talking in terms of separate countries or
alliances acting in their own individual interests, when in fact what we are seeing
play out here is actually a more or less unified global force i.e. NWO attacking the
ordinary citizens of the planet?

Are you Voluntarily contributing to the very illusion that 'they' wish to promote.

The focus of our post reveals our unconscious mentality.....

Look at the post above , I don't know what you are trying to say ?

We know there are darker forces manipulating all major countries
and the smaller nations get dragged along by default. We are all
on the same page .

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I have listened to this vid 7 or 8 times and although it has not happened yet,
and the details will change, it feels like it is ramping up again ,and could be why
Cameron is desperate to get the UK back in the 'A' team bombing Syria , even
though there is no need for a handful of British planes to be there .Its more
about ' darker forces ' behind the city or some other society that must be involved
I think ?


The Anglo-Saxon Mission [This version with English subtiltes]

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Uploaded on 18 Jun 2010


In January 2010, Project Camelot received 11 pages of information from an insider
who was physically present at a meeting of Senior Masons in the City of London in
2005. What was discussed is chilling to the bone.

What our source reports is this:

* There is a planned Third World War, which will be nuclear and biological. Our
source believes that this is on track to be initiated within the next 18-24 months.

* It is planned to begin with a strike by Israel on Iran. Either Iran or China will be
provoked into a nuclear response. After a brief nuclear exchange, there will be a
ceasefire. The world will be thrown into fear and chaos - all carefully engineered.

* The extreme state of tension will be used to justify heavy social and military
controls in all western first world nations. Plans are already in place for that.

* During the nuclear ceasefire, there is planned to be a covert release of biological
weapons. These will initially be targeted against the Chinese. As our source
chillingly told us, "China will catch a cold". Biological warfare will spread further, to
the west. Infrastructure will be critically weakened.

* This is intended to be just the beginning. After this, a full nuclear exchange would
be triggered: the "real" war, with widespread destruction and loss of life. Our
source tells us that the planned population reduction through these combined
means is 50%. He heard this figure stated in the meeting.

This horrific scenario has been planned for generations. The first two world wars
were part of the set-up for this final apocalypse - as is the centralization of financial
resources that was precipitated with the equally well-planned financial collapse of
October 2008.

As if all this were not enough, our source speculates this is all set against the
backdrop of a coming "geophysical event" - the same kind of event as was
experienced by our ancestors approximately 11,500 years ago. If this event occurs
- not necessarily expected in 2012, but sometime in the next decade - it would
destroy civilization as we know it, dwarfing even the effects of a nuclear war.

I asked the question to our source: If there's an expected catastrophe, then why
initiate a Third World War? His answer, for the first time to me, made terrible sense.

The real goal, he explained, is to set up the post-catastrophic world. To ensure that
this "New World" [note the term] is the one the controllers want, totalitarian control
structures need to be in place when the catastrophe occurs - with an excuse that
the populace will accept and demand them. Martial law in the right, carefully
chosen countries before the catastrophe occurs will enable the "right" people to
survive and prosper in the post-catastrophic world, and the beginning of the next
11,500 year cycle. What may have been carefully planned on a covert global scale,
for the last several generations, is nothing less than who will inherit the Earth.

Who are the "right" people? The white Caucasians. This may be why the name of
this project is The Anglo-Saxon Mission. Hence the justification for the planned
genocide of the Chinese people - so that the New World is inherited by "us",
not "them".

Our source was not informed about the planned fate of the second and third world
countries such as those in South America, Africa and Asia. But he presumes that
these would be allowed to fend for themselves and probably not survive well - or
maybe not at all. The totalitarian military governments of the western, white,
people are set to be the inheritors.

This is a plan so evil, so racist, so diabolical, so huge, that it almost defies belief.
But it all aligns with what many commentators, researchers and whistleblowing
Insiders have been identifying for some years now. For me personally, it's the
clearest picture yet of why the world is the way it is, and why the secrets are
protected so fiercely: it may be all about racial supremacy. The Fourth Reich is alive
and well.

Astonishingly, our source was not pessimistic. He stressed, as do we and many
others, that consciousness is awakening rapidly all over the planet and that THESE
PLANNED EVENTS ARE NOT INEVITABLE. If ever there was a reason to work closely
together to raise awareness of the real threat to us all, this is it.

Watch this video, listen carefully to the strong message of hope and
encouragement, and spread it far and wide. We stand for the potential
magnificence of a united humanity that knows no racial boundaries or distinctions.
Whether or not the catastrophe occurs - and many, including ourselves, maintain
that it will not - we must co-create our own future, claim our power, and do
whatever we can to alert people to the dangers around us... so that we can be
stronger together, for the sake of our descendants and for the heritage of all living
beings on Planet Earth.

http://projectavalon.net/anglo_saxon_...

promezeus
19th November 2015, 21:05
Look at the post above , I don't know what you are trying to say ?

We know there are darker forces manipulating all major countries
and the smaller nations get dragged along by default. We are all
on the same page .


We already told you how we're not necessarily on the same page about david icke as you. Yet you pimp david icke here like he's some kind of truth telling god .

If you listen to your own posted david icke video, he talks about the west trying to take back crimea by force and putin's 'ego' fighting back which could initiate ww3.
So david icke is again subtly promoting the idea of ww3 being a real fight, not just a staged fight.

In truth none of us are on the same page really. That's some silly fantasy of yours.

Many of us come here to share and discuss because we know the rabbit hole may go down deeper than we realize.
The posting of the false flag details, and he said/she said nonsense, is not only boring but mostly a distraction and meant to be, maybe by you.

Inaiá
19th November 2015, 21:28
[QUOTE]Watch this video, listen carefully to the strong message of hope and
encouragement, and spread it far and wide. We stand for the potential
magnificence of a united humanity that knows no racial boundaries or distinctions.
Whether or not the catastrophe occurs - and many, including ourselves, maintain
that it will not - we must co-create our own future, claim our power, and do
whatever we can to alert people to the dangers around us... so that we can be
stronger together, for the sake of our descendants and for the heritage of all living
beings on Planet Earth.

http://projectavalon.net/anglo_saxon_...

Thanks for the information, Cidersomerset. Good stuff.

The link to the video is not working, but I found this one, though:

http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_en.html

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 21:42
We already told you how we're not necessarily on the same page about
david icke as you. Yet you pimp david icke here like he's some kind of truth telling god .


Fair enough I understand now , its not a problem there are many researchers and
realities . We do look at things differently.You were the one that called David a
disinfo agent , that's your privilege . I don't see it , I'm listening to him live on the
the Ritchie Allen show now.....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86885-David-Icke-Live-8pm-GMT-tonight-19-11-15...Should-be-interesting...-Also...


I do understand the sentiment you are expressing on one level I have the same
problem with Nick Pope , but that's another story. All I can say is if you feel that
sincere about David , get your argument together and post a thread , questioning
whether David is misleading people in some of his ideas. Only if you want to take
this further and if you do I suggest you don't put up a negative title just a discussion.

I have put up several threads about MR.Pope who I think is an MOD gatekeeper....

MOD Spokesman and UFO Skeptic Nick Pope on Jimmy Church Fade To Black..4/3/15

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80469-MOD-Spokesman-and-UFO-Skeptic-Nick-Pope-on-Jimmy-Church-Fade-To-Black..4-3-15&p=943969&viewfull=1#post943969

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 22:11
A Very Emotional Max Igan Says It's Time To Arrest Those Really Responsible For Paris!

'WARNING'....Ritchie also uses some strong language , after he gets a bit excited.

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Published on 18 Nov 2015


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avid
19th November 2015, 22:40
Cidersomerset m'dear, do you watch/listen to all these links? Here we go for another 46 minutes. I am watching in deference, but really am overloaded. Massive mind control programme is correct. David Cameron is a war-mongering individual - agree.
The chap in the link is advocating severe 'repercussions' to the chap above.

We are all getting so worked up by the giant planned fiasco, we should not rise to the bait. This bait is what starts world wars.

PurpleLama
19th November 2015, 22:40
New details are emerging about the attackers who launched attacks on Paris last week – and for self-proclaimed religious zealots, they used a lot of drugs and alcohol.
First, there are the Abdeslam brothers, Brahim and Salah. Both men ran a bar in Brussels called Les Beguines, and were known to partake – fairly heavily – in substances typically frowned upon by the self-proclaimed Islamic State terrorist group.


(http://m.sputniknews.com/europe/20151120/1030423109/paris-attackers-alcohol-drugs.html)

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 22:52
Cidersomerset m'dear, do you watch/listen to all these links?

Yes I do watch nearly all, I cannot say 100 % but maybe 95 % + , it must be my
female part or whatever ? ' multi tasking' ...LOL as I tend to always have
something playing in the background . I don't watch much mainstream
TV , most shows and docs come from the web, and I'm listening to Max Igan now ,
though I have to go to bed soon as work tomorrow.

Calz
19th November 2015, 23:05
Perhaps it's just me ... getting a lot of that lately ...

yet ...

In many regards this seems like 9/11 on steroids not for the shock level of the event itself but for the similarities and the remarkable timeframe it has unfolded.


Where to begin ...


Almost immediate blame ... right?


Someone allegedly representing ISIS claims responsibility (you know ... the gang that has been proven beyond question as a western asset).

48 hours later the French start bombing (heh ... that's impressive ... they "figured it all out" much quicker than amerika on 9/11).

Yes ... within that same 48 hour period they implement the French version of the "patriot act" ... wow ... serious speed writing going on there ....

Oh yeah ... seems there was the military drill for multiple terror strikes in the same area on the same day ...

what a coincidence.


What else ... oh yes of course ... the old pristine passport proving beyond doubt who is responsible ...


We all know that is a must have when doing suicide attacks ... right???


Activating the 1st time ever NATO call for members to gather to defend a member ...


hmmm ...


I don't need (or want) to go on ...


I'm so sick of watching all the "plans detailed for what ... 150 years now" play out like a well rehearsed script and what ... white hats???


Ah that's right ... they have all been replaced ... only Jesuit yes men need apply ... military coup ... don't make me laugh ...

Cidersomerset
19th November 2015, 23:23
Perhaps it's just me ... getting a lot of that lately ...

yet ...

In many regards this seems like 9/11 on steroids not for the shock level of the event itself
but for the similarities and the remarkable timeframe it has unfolded.

Yep there is definitely a certain amount of 'deja vous' about this no pun intended
( Oh maybe , as it is turning out to be a French farce...LOL).

Most alternate researchers have commented on that , and I agree as per previous posts.

France is already part of the alliance with the US bombing Syria & Iraq . The 28 EU
countries have said they will back France , though I don't know of what military
value that is ? NATO is the one as the US did after 9/11 to invade the innocent
country of Afghanistan to restart the drugs trade reduced to a relative trickle
by the Taliban.

Afghan Opium Harvesting Protected by British & American Occupation Forces // 2014 the largest Opium crop in History

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?84791-Afghan-Opium-Harvesting-Protected-by-British-American-Occupation-Forces-2014-the-largest-Opium-crop-in-History.


Right Max and Ritchie have finished , Good night all....LOL

TargeT
20th November 2015, 01:40
Cidersomerset m'dear, do you watch/listen to all these links?

Yes I do watch nearly all, I cannot say 100 % but maybe 95 % + , it must be my
female part or whatever ? ' multi tasking' ...LOL as I tend to always have
something playing in the background . I don't watch much mainstream
TV , most shows and docs come from the web, and I'm listening to Max Igan now ,
though I have to go to bed soon as work tomorrow.

I listen to most at work & half watch them while working on projects... Jumping back and forth keeps my focus fresh ;)

gripreaper
20th November 2015, 02:00
Ok, let’s cut to the chase one more time. As Calz has pointed out in post #442, the blame was instant, the response to start bombing right away immediately followed, and the French version of the Patriot Act enacted, all within days. The media frenzy over this is off the charts, appearing everywhere with total saturation. This is an engineered “meme” of consciousness of the highest order, and is Hegelian to the core.

But, let’s start at the beginning. If you are a narcissistic globalist bankster and you want to marginalize certain peoples in certain countries to consolidate your power and control, how would you do it? Please put your alter ego evil thinking caps on for a minute and let’s go for a walk.

Well, first you would want to imperialize a country, put them in debt, bankrupt them and then steal all their resources. So as you destroy the local culture and the local economies of these countries, antagonize the populace, then you would want to create divisiveness between factions while arming both sides. Once you have destroyed their family units, forced them to band together in nomadic units, stripped the people of any will to live, armed them to the teeth, then you set up opportunistic targets in the western alliance nations.

Now, these well funded extremists who are all driving brand new Toyota’s with the sunroofs open, armed to the teeth, can now be distributed throughout the world to foment false flag attacks, in order to rally the consciousness of all nations to surrender more sovereignty to the centralized system, which is the ultimate goal of the Hegelian “Solution” to the problem created by these globalists.

I really hope the peoples of earth will not fall for it this time, and have had enough of this same dynamic played out thousands of times over thousands of years by the same psychopathic alien interlopers who “Think” they own the earth and everything on it, and have the divine right to rule this planet, and care not for any humanity or empathy towards their agenda. Nothing is beyond their scope to complete their agenda.

It is incumbent upon us, when our peers begin to cheer the bombs going off in Syria, and the refugees fleeing, that we show them the big picture. Islamic extremists are extreme because their family unit has been destroyed and they were forced into nomadic tribes we like to call terrorists. If the banksters weren’t sucking up all the resources and leaving half the world in abject poverty without any other options, we would not have this dilemma we are now facing. It’s the friggin banksters who are the problem.

Jhonie
20th November 2015, 02:19
Got this on FB today. Not sure it is real.

giovonni
20th November 2015, 02:30
Got this on FB today. Not sure it is real.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=31914&d=1447985945

Flash
20th November 2015, 02:30
Cidermoset: "déjà vu" not "déjà vous" not the same meaning at all. "Déjà vu" is already seen, "Déjà vous" is already you???

Sorry, I truly could not resist

Slapping my typing hand and back to topic.

TargeT
20th November 2015, 03:20
Got this on FB today. Not sure it is real.

Definitely not from DHS, the wording gives it away... Fake for sure

giovonni
20th November 2015, 04:18
Got this on FB today. Not sure it is real.

Definitely not from DHS, the wording gives it away... Fake for sure

Well I would assume that would be the case, and that any U.S. gov. civil servant
worth their retirement pension would also agree with you Target ...

But what I found more unsettling, is that such a document (so far) had slipped
through the facebook censors - long enough to be copied and shared -
Ending up on this (so called) conspiracy forum ...

One has to admit, such a scheme (using a UPS front) would be an excellent
means of a delivery system - Which is very troubling to my (citizen's) mind.

Remember, we are all living in a very dangerously/hijinks world of cyberspace ?

PS ~ I can assure you that The Department of Homeland Security saw it right away ... ;)

idiit
20th November 2015, 05:26
pretty good cover for any number/type of criminals.


they found the ups uniforms and the getaway vehicle:

https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M11befc56bd0f9f628866283cdeda57efo0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/05/ups-hot-rod-630.jpg

Delight
20th November 2015, 06:19
I really hope the peoples of earth will not fall for it this time, and have had enough of this same dynamic played out thousands of times over thousands of years by the same psychopathic alien interlopers who “Think” they own the earth and everything on it, and have the divine right to rule this planet, and care not for any humanity or empathy towards their agenda

............Islamic extremists are extreme because their family unit has been destroyed and they were forced into nomadic tribes we like to call terrorists

........ If the banksters weren’t sucking up all the resources and leaving half the world in abject poverty without any other options, we would not have this dilemma we are now facing. It’s the friggin banksters who are the problem.

I have personal evidence that this war starts in the human heart.

My brother is the youngest son of a malignant narcissist mother. He has mild manners that cover rock hard anger. He is married to a woman who acts like a narcissist and calls herself victimized by people. She is angry ajnd acts it out.

My brother works very hard for Gulfstream. He travels all over fixing Gulfstream products (small jets).

He had an occaision to stay in Saudi Arabia for a significant time. Living in a hotel, he met the workers who are foriegn workers. They have a miserable time there because of the caste system. My brother said that whenever a royal comes along, they go to the head of the lines. They disparage the non Saudis, evidencing their rascism. My brother hates the whole Arab world now. He thinks seriously that the whole should be nuked.

My brother is a hard working American under the flag of "we are the best". He has a major emotional chip that fits nicely for the system.

I bring in narcissm deliberately. IMO the problems we have are having been brought up to be deliberately covered over in anger from the mundane abuse of the culture of narcissm. I really think we have an opportunity before we each die to realize how much pain we pass on because we cannot face it. A deep original pain like my dearly beloved brother would like to pass.

I feel much compassion for the Maya we live within. There is a way to use it but we cannot keeping passing the buck for whatever miniscule bit of hate we are harboring.

Maybe in another season, we would not have to deal with so much lack of love. But because now there is so much lack, only we each can choose to emanate it.
I keep posting to remind myself.

Atlas
20th November 2015, 06:25
the getaway vehicle:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/05/ups-hot-rod-630.jpg
Made me think of "the Libyans" in "back to the future":
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Tangri
20th November 2015, 06:26
John Kerry: “Something Different” About Last Week’s Terrorist Attacks “From Charlie Hebdo”

“There’s something different about what happened from Charlie Hebdo, and I think everybody would feel that,” Kerry told the staff and families of the U.S. Embassy in Paris. “There was a sort of particularized focus and perhaps even a legitimacy in terms of – not a legitimacy, but a rationale that you could attach yourself to somehow and say, okay, they’re really angry because of this and that.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/katherinemiller/john-kerry-something-different-about-last-weeks-terrorist-at#.hdz4ywXxw9

http://time.com/4117525/kerry-charlie-hebdo-massacre-had-clearer-rationale-than-paris-attacks/

Cidersomerset
20th November 2015, 07:24
Cidermoset: "déjà vu" not "déjà vous" not the same meaning at all. "Déjà vu" is already seen, "Déjà vous" is already you???

Sorry, I truly could not resist

Slapping my typing hand and back to topic.

"Thanks for the correction miss Flash "....LOL

I was spelling quo bono wrong in an earlier post
it should be cui bono I think " who bennifits' .

Luckily with the intelligent bunch on here , most
get the meaning thru the odd grammer and
spelling 'cock ups ' I'm always editing my first
typing draft , as my IT skills were very limited
before I joined the forum in 2011.

Now I can type with both hands ....LOL

Cidersomerset
20th November 2015, 08:00
The other thing which I have not got time to post properly
is once you get your head around this . Running parallel
certainly from the 1940's and possibly before is ET contact.
Roswell etc , the setting up of the Secret Space programme,
which maybe funded & hidden by the state of constant war
and corruption.

which leads into Richard Dolans and others alternate
breakaway civilisation.

idiit
20th November 2015, 11:32
False Flag Alert! Obama Caught Smuggling in Refugees on UPS Planes?


^^jhonie, giovonni might have snagged a keeper! :)


Is history repeating itself? Is Obama circumventing the law once again to bring in refugees, just like he did with the “refugees” from South America who were actually given rides on D.H.S. busses for protection???


Without knowing precisely what is going on, there is no doubt something nefarious is afoot. There is no reason for 30 busses of people to be flying on a UPS flight designated for parcels, under the cover of night, filled with people, who are met on arrival with busses already waiting, and whisked away in secret.

In the video, the person recording is in hot pursuit of up to 30 busses that he claims are filled with people he just watched land in Harrisburg International Airport on a UPS plane.

Upon the plane’s arrival, which was alleged to be a “parcel flight,” there were 30 busses already lined up, and ready receive, what turned out not to be parcels, but dozens and dozens of people.

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/11/false-flag-alert-obama-caught-smuggling-in-refugees-on-ups-planes-video-2758292.html

Hervé
20th November 2015, 12:42
Ol' Joe Biden Rips Loose and Blows the Lid Off Who Armed ISIS (http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/ol-joe-rips-loose-and-blows-lid-who-armed-isis/ri11257?utm_source=Russia+Insider+Daily+Headlines&utm_campaign=4b3b33f1e8-Russia_Insider_Daily_Headlines11_21_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c626db089c-4b3b33f1e8-22720)

Tina Jennings (http://russia-insider.com/en/tina-jennings)
Bumbling Biden Wed, Nov 18, 2015

He's never put his foot in his mouth like this…


http://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/styles/s400/public/joe-biden-foot-in-mouth.jpg?itok=FIyO_QaL (http://russia-insider.com/sites/insider/files/joe-biden-foot-in-mouth.jpg)


Incorrigible



Here's what happens when Joe Biden accidentally veers off-script: the truth comes out!

Because that's what tends to happen when you've told so many lies on so many different subjects – you forget what exactly it is you're not supposed to say in public.

So candid that the White House actually issued an apology to Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates (i.e. not a retraction, but an apology for revealing their culpability in arming IS).

Shooting his mouth off at a Harvard Q&A with students last Thursday, Biden said:

“… our biggest problem is our allies – our allies in the region were our largest problem in Syria. The Turks were great friends – and I have the greatest relationship with Erdogan, which I just spent a lot of time with – the Saudis, the Emiratis, etc. But what were they doing? They were so determined to take down Assad and essentially have a proxy Sunni-Shia war, what did they do?

They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad, except that the people who were being supplied were Al Nusra and Al Qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world.

Now you think I’m exaggerating – take a look… Now we have – the President’s been able to put together a coalition of our Sunni neighbors, because America can’t once again go into a Muslim nation and be seen as the aggressor – it has to be led by Sunnis to go and attack a Sunni organization.” Scroll down and listen to the White House's own audio tape. Ignored by all Western mainstream media because (1) it's what Putin has been saying all along and (2) well, because Biden wasn't meant to say it.

Excellent additional commentary on CIA involvement in weapons transfers from Libya (Benghazi, anyone?) to Syria.

- Tina Jennings (RI Contributor)

Originally appeared (http://mideastshuffle.com/2014/10/04/biden-turks-saudis-uae-funded-and-armed-al-nusra-and-al-qaeda/) at Mideast Shuffle


Update: The White House on Saturday said Vice President Joe Biden “apologized for any implication that Turkey or other allies and partners in the region had intentionally (http://rt.com/news/193236-biden-apologizes-turkey-isis/) supplied or facilitated the growth of ISIL (IS, ISIS) or other violent extremists in Syria.” The operative word here is “intentionally” – please note that this language does not constitute a retraction of Biden’s claims that the US’s closest Mideast allies armed and funded extremist groups in Syria.

When Joe Biden gets candid, he really lets rip. The US vice president, speaking at the John F. Kennedy Jr Forum at Harvard University’s Institute of Politics, on Thursday told his audience – point blank – that America’s Sunni allies are responsible for funding and arming Al Qaeda-type extremists in Syria.

And he named names: Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, specifically. Others – like Qatar – are undoubtedly complicit too, but Biden’s comments were made off-the-cuff during the question and answer period following his prepared statement.

Of course, much of what Biden said has been suspected for years by Syria watchers, but to acknowledge this outright during the early days of President Barack Obama’s much-vaunted ISIL-busting Coalition – featuring these very same Sunni Arab partners – is a jaw-dropping concession.

But that’s not all. Biden also managed to fundamentally undermine his administration’s efforts to train and arm “moderate” Syrian rebels today, by claiming there is no “moderate middle (in Syria) because the moderate middle are made up of shopkeepers, not soldiers.”

Keep in mind now that just two weeks ago Congress approved (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/9/17/congress-arming-syriarebels.html) – at the request of this White House – $500 million dollars to train and arm “moderate” Syrian rebels. Obama’s second-in-command is saying there are none of those, so who exactly are US forces teaching to fight with heavy weapons in Saudi training camps today?

Let’s go directly to the Q&A session following Biden’s speech. Here is an unedited version taken from the audio recording released on The White House’s YouTube channel (http://youtu.be/UrXkm4FImvc?t=1h31m57s):
Question: In retrospect do u believe the United States should have acted earlier in Syria, and if not why is now the right moment?

Biden: The answer is ‘no’ for 2 reasons. One, the idea of identifying a moderate middle has been a chase America has been engaged in for a long time. We Americans think in every country in transition there is a Thomas Jefferson hiding beside some rock – or a James Madison beyond one sand dune. The fact of the matter is the ability to identify a moderate middle in Syria was – there was no moderate middle because the moderate middle are made up of shopkeepers, not soldiers – they are made up of people who in fact have ordinary elements of the middle class of that country. And what happened was – and history will record this because I’m finding that former administration officials, as soon as they leave write books which I think is inappropriate, but anyway, (laughs) no I’m serious – I do think it’s inappropriate at least , you know, give the guy a chance to get out of office. And what my constant cry was that our biggest problem is our allies – our allies in the region were our largest problem in Syria. The Turks were great friends – and I have the greatest relationship with Erdogan, which I just spent a lot of time with – the Saudis, the Emiratis, etc. What were they doing? They were so determined to take down Assad and essentially have a proxy Sunni-Shia war, what did they do? They poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens, thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against Assad except that the people who were being supplied were Al Nusra and Al Qaeda and the extremist elements of jihadis coming from other parts of the world. Now you think I’m exaggerating – take a look. Where did all of this go? So now what’s happening? All of a sudden everybody’s awakened because this outfit called ISIL which was Al Qaeda in Iraq, which when they were essentially thrown out of Iraq, found open space in territory in eastern Syria, work with Al Nusra who we declared a terrorist group early on and we could not convince our colleagues to stop supplying them. So what happened? Now all of a sudden – I don’t want to be too facetious – but they had seen the Lord. Now we have – the President’s been able to put together a coalition of our Sunni neighbors, because America can’t once again go into a Muslim nation and be seen as the aggressor – it has to be led by Sunnis to go and attack a Sunni organization. So what do we have for the first time?
The audio clip ends there. While you are taking a moment to readjust your worldview and re-categorize the ‘good guys’ and bad guys,’ do also note the veiled swipe Biden takes at former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton whose recent book criticizes Obama’s Syria decisions while he is still a sitting president.

Before you allow Biden to transfer all blame for the radicalism in Syria onto the convenient Muslims-du-jour, consider for a moment the US’s role in all of this.

We have press reports (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/10218288/CIA-running-arms-smuggling-team-in-Benghazi-when-consulate-was-attacked.html) that the CIA was a major conduit for the transfer of weapons from Libya to Syria – a role, no doubt, facilitated by US Ambassador Christopher Stevens who was killed in Benghazi by unknown extremists.

We are also told that the US assisted in the logistics of delivering a Saudi-bankrolled transfer of Croatian weapons in 2012 to Syrian ‘rebels.’ According to the BBC: “The CIA is also reported to have been instrumental in setting up the alleged secret airlift of weapons from Croatia. And here is The Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9918785/US-and-Europe-in-major-airlift-of-arms-to-Syrian-rebels-through-Zagreb.html)‘s take on things:

“The shipments were allegedly paid for by Saudi Arabia at the bidding of the United States, with assistance on supplying the weapons organised through Turkey and Jordan, Syria’s neighbors.” These weapons were later caught on video in the hands of Ahrar al-Sham, which today is a target of US airstrikes inside Syria. The New York Times goes further:

“With help from the C.I.A., Arab governments and Turkey have sharply increased their military aid to Syria’s opposition fighters in recent months, expanding a secret airlift of arms and equipment for the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, according to air traffic data, interviews with officials in several countries and the accounts of rebel commanders.”

“From offices at secret locations, American intelligence officers have helped the Arab governments shop for weapons, including a large procurement from Croatia, and have vetted rebel commanders and groups to determine who should receive the weapons as they arrive, according to American officials speaking on the condition of anonymity.” Exactly how does that exonerate Americans from delivering weapons to “Al Nusra and Al Qaeda?”

Biden’s comments on Thursday were a bombshell that will be heard across the globe. They will fundamentally undermine Obama’s attempts to arm “moderate rebels” and assemble a coalition that includes the very same Sunni Arab states that have helped create ISIL.

So what did the mainstream US media say about it? Nothing. Zip. Nada.

No – wait. There were headlines about Biden’s speech – let me be fair. But this is what CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and Fox News pulled out of their collective hats:

CNN: (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/02/politics/joe-biden-vp-remark/index.html?hpt=us_c2) “Joe Biden gets colorful on being a VP – and it rhymes with glitch.” This, a reference to Biden’s use of the word “bitch” in jokingly describing the job of a vice president.
CNN (again): (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/03/politics/biden-ebola-isis/index.html?eref=rss_topstories) “Joe Biden explains how Ebola is like ISIS.”
ABC: (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/10/this-might-be-the-best-thing-joe-bidens-ever-said/) “This might be the best thing Joe Biden’s ever said.” Another reference to the ‘bitch’ comment.
NBC: (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/vice-president-joe-bidens-foul-mouthed-quip-job-draws-laughs-n217386) “Vice President Joe Biden’s Foul-Mouthed Quip on Job Draws Laughs.” Bitch, again.
CBS: (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-bidens-salty-description-of-being-vp/) “Joe Biden’s salty description of being VP.” Yawn.
Fox: (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/03/biden-on-being-vice-president-its-b-tch/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20foxnews%2Fpolitics%20%28Internal%20-%20Politics%20-%20Text%29) “Biden on being Vice President: It’s a b-itch.” Kill me now.
Enough said. Washington’s partners in fighting extremism – and trampling all over international laws to do it – are the same ones who have fueled it. The Vice President of the United States just said so. And Americans are snickering over the B-word. Leaders of the free world indeed.

triquetra
20th November 2015, 12:55
***Warning - this long post begins on topic but transitions to discuss a much broader context for this entire mess. Read if you want to "zoom all the way out" of what's happening, skip it if you want to focus at the "current zoom level" of this thread ***

The beginning of these events anticipated since a month ago. You can know something will happen and still be powerless to do anything to stop it:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,39785.0.html


(Data) People in the West are waking up to the fact that we have basically mass migration of people from Syria and the Middle East. We have 4 million people displaced, and 180,000 went to Germany. A section of that stayed in other countries. I read in the news that some people in the West think this is suspicious. Why do they all want to go to Germany? Were they informed in some way by the government, or is this truly a grassroots movement where they just wanted to go to Germany?

A: Partly desperation and partly engineered. Let us say that the very real and desperate plight of refugees has been cynically utilized by nefarious agents.

Q: (Perceval) So the engineered part is to destabilize or put pressure on European governments?

A: Yes and more than that: to insert agents that will act against the various governments in the future.

Q: (L) I would like to know what is the percentage of real refugees to agents?

A: 94

Q: (L) 94 percent?

A: Yes

Q: (L) 94 percent are real refugees, but the rest are agents that are being sent in with them. And so who are the nefarious agents that have cynically utilized this refugee crisis to plant agents within European countries?

A: USA and allies of consortium.

It's a clever plan because it goes directly at odds with the black and white thinking everyone is taught to adopt. Either it's ok to welcome refugees, or it isn't. Either the official story is accurate, or it isn't.

The truth then always winds up in the both/neither category, which people never even consider as an option.

This psychological splitting of mainstream consciousness in two totally separated layers is a kind of beginning of caste-building, of developing a system within which generation after generation of a certain caste will think in one way or another.

It's a little bit like training an animal.

To be perfectly frank: some entities would consider human beings kind of like a pet monkey.

But they are wrong - where they exceed perhaps in left brain intelligence, they are inferior in right brain emotional intelligence, this part of their brain does not even exist.

We as human beings are still learning how to use emotional intelligence as a tool, rather than be victims to mood swings and so forth in the early stages of this higher frequency development.

So we are pushed down with DNA manipulation but despite it all we are pushing out from all barriers imposed and evolving anyway.

We are overriding the very system, the very pretenses that the human civilization was inserted onto this planet under.

A lot of what's happening is an attempt to regain control of "the experiment", because when we evolve beyond a point there is no more ability to control and so there is no longer any possibility of a contained experiment.

These plans take a long, long time to execute, and as such are of high importance - they guide the entire development of a civilization on a planet by inserting competing religions at the right stage of development, engineering conflict in some cases, consent in others, and so forth.

What is my point? The entirety of the "program" has been remotely viewed and all of the misinformation filtered out, a complete timeline exists which has recorded the actual truth rather than the manufactured history.

In the coming years, despite how it now looks, we will begin to firmly peel away from the timeline of "regulating the experiment" and towards the intended timeline of "fulfilling humankind's real destiny", something other benevolent entities out there are aware of and in full support of (what happens here on earth in the coming years will have an impact that echoes outwards across many galaxies..etc).

Too much to get into here and now, but the information is all forthcoming, one way or another.

In the best case scenario - it's not even necessary to focus on the dark past - we can just focus on the bright future by remembering together all of the information shut out of our psyches by this experiment, relating to collective consciousness, wave energy and science, and so forth.

In worse case scenarios then more will begin to be revealed about the past - the risk to them is then a corpus of knowledge that would prevent any and all further experimentation of the kind that has happened on this planet.

In the worst case scenario of all - whatever will go around will come around - the soul pool will remain intact as always but the soulless will be quarantined even further dimensionally.

In this greater reality, all entities must be allowed the time to learn their respective lessons, but the notion of a "deux ex machina" exists for the very reason that this cannot continue indefinitely. Eventually the balance always needs to be restored, in one way, or another.

The good news is that if there was *any flexibility at all* on the part of the ones who really want to maintain and advance the agenda of terror and the planet earth experiment, they could have a much better outcome as well.

If you study the nature of reality very, very carefully, you will notice that layer by layer, you have a system imposed onto a layer below, and then in that layer below there is a resistance to the orchestrators of the system from the layer above.

If you ever wonder just how vast the entirety of reality is - imagine that this pattern continues infinitely - that's how big it is.

Trying now to put this all into context -

1. This universe as a simulation to show the outcome of the interactions of many different entities over the course of countless aeons and years to a "layer above".

2. This planet as a simulation began by engineering 5 or more variants of humans, all with the same DNA restrictions, and a carefully engineered rise into global civilization since the very beginning (minus the battling against remnants of surviving knowledge from the previous experiment left over in certain populations on the planet / or against receivers of disallowed outside knowledge provided by other entities who were not a part of setting up this experiment)

3. The most powerful humans on earth split between supporting the experiment and some desiring to rebel against it

4. The masses of uninformed participants in the experiment who go along with whatever is status quo

5. The ones who have woken up to one part or another of all this and are starting to be unable to participate because they can see through the entire thing (if you haven't by now, you should by having read this message, if I've worded it correctly enough to represent the truth)

A lot of entities didn't seem to understand item number 1., though many clearly do. It is very much possible for a soul to get out from even layer 1. and that is "Avalon" out beyond the scope of layer 1, outside of this entire universe simulation.

It is also possible for a being to come in from outside, though it is rare, and not really supposed to need to happen. It is only happening when major corrections are needed that must be done manually within the simulation.

Normally soul fragment splitting and joining happen outside of the life cycle, but only within the simulation itself. The exception is when the soul joining occurs between outside the simulation and inside of it.

This happens towards the end of a major cycle of the universal simulation because the portal is beginning to open, the "Golden Bridge" to Avalon.

This might sound a bit incredible, and perhaps I am going too "off topic" in this thread, but there is no such thing as going "off topic" in a collective consciousness, all information weaves fluidly together, and one can see quickly when thinking from within the collective consciousness that something like a false flag event is one tiny part in a much, much bigger landscape of truth that is out there. Learning that landscape will help you deal with these things better.

If there is one thing that is being rebelled against most of all at Layer 1 of the simulation, it's the nature of what a collective consciousness represents. There are some entities that want no part of it - individual reality and thinking is the ultimate for them.

Combine this with the inability to develop emotional intelligence among some entities, and you have a good scenario for understanding why this Earth experiment exists, and what it is trying to prove.

Whether or not we can all "get along" is on test - but the odds are stacked against us - we are provoked into not getting along as much as possible.

Humans are being trained towards a dark path that is not natural or intuitive for us - it takes so many thousands of years of brainwashing and generational soul cycle training to have any real effect, and even then, it is only working for a very small percentage of us.

Those are the ones that are given the power and privilege because the system is designed to allow them to advance and "succeed" more easily with those priorities - the ones that are promoted with the artificial training program that is a big part of the experiment.

But in an experiment's "end game" like we are in now, the time left to achieve some kind of outcome or another is very small and there is an increasingly strong chance the goals are not achieved - the human's cannot be taught to hate each other against their own nature - proving there is no real reason entities across galaxies cannot in turn find ways of getting along as well - that certain aspects of an entity's development timeline within this universe *are natural* and *are universal*.

So if something is wrong with an entity's development, it needs to be fixed. It might be a symptom of issues in how the entire universal simulation was programmed from the outside, but it is not a sign that we should be calling into question how development within the universal simulation is actually supposed to work.

Let's cut to the chase then - if human's here on earth are finishing up undergoing a 3rd dimensional experience and would naturally evolve to a 5th dimensional experience, and there are 4th dimensional dwellers that for all intents and purposes don't want to be left behind, that are stuck, they will not be left behind, despite everything they did.

It IS natural to rebel against the system in the sense that when one is ready for it, one should not need to be going through a pre-planned simulation that has specific goals to accomplish and so forth - that is too basic like a childhood. But an entity has to be ready to take the reins of reality, to co-create with the right vibrations - not to try to block out a portion of reality from the rest and to create a dystopia within it.

Just to say "**** you" to the system.

It's madness and it's madness recursively up through all the dimensions in all the realities, no matter where you travel. This same rule applies.

Meta-reality is vast and endless, there are infinite experiences - but always there is this oscillation between being shown through a reality created for you, and gaining the privilege to create aspects of reality yourself.

It's not black and white at all, it's not one or the other like the religions "teach", it's on a fluid grayscale, evolving fractally all throughout the dimensional layers.

If this seems extremely tangential to talk about the Paris false flag - by now - of course it is - but read through again and find that one segment always connects to the next.

Don't trust the ways you've been taught to communicate either - the pillars of "single topics only, and no derailing the threads allowed!"

Free association in thought is one of the most powerful mental tools you have - it's a necessary capability to join into the aetheric thought pools of collective consciousness entity groups.

You don't "channel" and you don't "think for yourself", it's neither and both, at the same time.

There are ways of thinking that are quite literally a whole other world than the black and white thinking taught within this planetary experiment.

Time to start playing the flute and to get everyone out. Nobody deserves these kinds of experiments.

idiit
20th November 2015, 13:00
two former university phd professors have a false flag weekly news show ;barrett, fetzer.

these guys' perspectives agree on 1/2 of the issues and throat throttle each other on the other 1/2 of the issues.

true journalism is not consensus journalism. true journalism is getting an incisive factual based perspective from well rounded and opposing viewpoints.

here's this weeks stellar discussion with several significant aspects to the paris false flag subject not previously discussed here at projectavalon:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4wSUvSqQLw


we do a good job here at projectavalon but ffwn can take it up a notch or two on some subjects. these guys imo are brilliant. they are mere mortals like the rest of us and get some stuff wrong. no one gets it right all the time.

edited to add; fetzer's blog archives ( on the right) of posted link contain a lot of information on subjects like jfk assassination, sandy hook, 911.... that are simply brilliant.

http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/

idiit
20th November 2015, 13:09
triquetra, nice post.


Time to start playing the flute and to get everyone out. Nobody deserves these kinds of experiments.

^ I totally agree. I don't want myself or others to go thru so much painful bs so that a collective or superior intelligence can see how different scenarios work out. I've been having this thought a lot lately.

your post reflects multi-dimensional cognition. the black/white thang is two dimensional. in order to think multi-dimensionally one must escape the 2d paradigm. In order to think outside the box one needs first to extricate oneself from the 2d, even 3d paradigm. you gots to be outside the box to think outside the box.

"the event" is just that; evolving cognitively into a multi dimensional cognition that will allow us to see many many layers that already existed but we were too blind to see.

transiten
20th November 2015, 14:06
[QUOTE=Cidersomerset;1021096]If you really want to know what part of Paris is about its the mil & large corporate
interests inter woven with the elites and 'Dark ' forces who run this planet.
Economic cycles ,insider trading , Banking , tax , and budget fraud are all part of
these false flag attacks as well as loss of freedoms and plenty of death and targets
to fire there weapons at , so they can produce more weapons and continue the
chaos, to which at some appropriate time the plan for the NWO , will be the agenda
on all Politicians lips as it was before and after 9/11 .

Order out of Chaos, the plan was for it to be rolled out around the 2007 -10 mark ,
if you look at the banking collapse , the thwarted attempts to attack Iran by Israel
thru Georgia, by Russia it was really revving up back then, See Bills 'Anglo Saxon
mission' and other vids at the time. It calmed down a bit with the Arab spring and
the agenda switched to ISIS /ISIL and the funding and ' pretend ' attacks on them
by the US / French led coalition.Russian intervention has changed the focus and
forced the coalition into changing their plans , which is where we are now.....

Again this is not new as Peter Scot pointed out in the vid posted on here yesterday,
the current criminal cabal in the US grew out of WW11.....President Eisenhower
summed it up eerily accurately , and he should have known as he was supreme
allied commander in the West and oversaw D Day and the defeat of Germany on
the western allied side. ' listen ' to his prophetic words they are eerily similar to
what is happening today and what he was warning against.The JFK coup , just two
years later and the escalation of Vietnam and the 'Cold War'arms race has been
manipulated into policies that have been carried out by lame duck picked Presidents,
carrying out the agendas of their corporate masters.

Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex.

8y06NSBBRtY

Dwight D. Eisenhower exit speech on Jan.17,1961.
Warning us of the military industrial complex.


Been talking about this video every day since I re-watched it last Sunday with friends on asuuny day on a small island outside Gothenburg, taking a long walk so far away from terror. Yesterday i took the train from Gothenburg, police everywhere, arrived in Stockholm-same thing and as I stepped inside the door at my friends she told me the ISIS-terrorist that has been chased in Sweden was caught in Boliden in the North of Sweden in an asylum housing. The level of threat has been raised from a 3 to 4. ISIS is on the news 24/7.

In connection with araucaria's post here's another sync: Half an hour before my birthtime in the middle of the night Nov 18 I heared something in the attic. Stood up to check and there were 2 civilian policemen searching for drugs where I have some of my things. Thing is it's not a covered space so pple can climb and hide there. Got Mars/Uranus square transit among others, radical energies: something has to change within and without, has been both scary and positive. So far I have handled my fear by talking to pple on the subway, train, bus, grocery store, no big things, a smile a joke and guess what! Instead of seing a lot of scared pple pple start to adress me,even in the subway of all places!! Sweden is known for pple not talking to strangers. i must have changeds my inner frequency, at least for now!

Cidersomerset
20th November 2015, 16:52
Putin to G20: Stop Funding ISIS! - #NewWorldNextWeek

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Published on 19 Nov 2015


Welcome to New World Next Week — the video series from Corbett Report and Media
Monarchy that covers some of the most important developments in open source
intelligence news. In this week’s episode:

Story 1: Putin Calls Out G20 Nations For Funding ISIS
http://bit.ly/1WZZGkS
33 ISIS Members Killed In Airstrikes
http://bit.ly/1PB4nx3
The Paris Terror Attacks: An Open Source Investigation
http://bit.ly/1MjTyLZ

Story 2: After Paris Attacks, Encrypted Communication Is Back In Spotlight
http://n.pr/1l0OSBr
NY Times Pulls Report Of French Officials' Claims Paris Attackers Used Encrypted Apps
http://bit.ly/1NXxHfG
After Paris Attack: "The Enemies Of Encryption Have Their Knives Drawn."
http://bit.ly/1PB4qZZ
France Deploys 10,000 Troops To Patrol Streets In Wake Of Paris Attacks
http://bit.ly/1HYXZ0e
Mission Accomplished: After Paris, Americans Want US To Attack ISIS
http://bit.ly/1I00OZD
You Know You're In Trouble When TV Makes New Graphics For "___ Under Attack"
http://bit.ly/1NcWCx2

Story 3: #GoodNewsNextWeek - The Disintegration Of The European Project
http://bit.ly/1lfwC7Z
What Is The Schengen Area - And What Could Happen To It Now?
http://bit.ly/1X9plST
Why Whistleblowers Can't Be Blamed For Paris Attacks
http://bit.ly/1X9pp54
US Mass Surveillance Never Prevented Large Terror Attacks
http://bit.ly/2147eT4

#NewWorldNextWeek Updates: So... Nigerian Flags All Around Then?
http://bit.ly/1S5xtCH
Boko Haram Ranked Ahead Of ISIS For Deadliest Terror Group
http://nyti.ms/1j8Gizg
German 'Triple Agent' Admits Spying For CIA
http://yhoo.it/1MW6HrL
Red Cross Accuses U.S.-Backed Saudis Of Deliberately Attacking Health Care Facilities In Yemen
http://bit.ly/1QOxJHN
'Alarm' As Patients Shun Flu Jab
http://bbc.in/2147iCv

Visit http://NewWorldNextWeek.com to get previous episodes in various formats to download and share.

Submit articles and links by using #NewWorldNextWeek and #GoodNewsNextWeek. And as always, stay
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Previous Episode: Town Moves Offshore to Avoid Taxes
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avid
20th November 2015, 17:03
So many wondrous links, liking the flu vacc one. Some deserve their own threads 👍

Cidersomerset
20th November 2015, 17:46
http://i.imgur.com/lAJ0x.jpg

This is a fun and sometimes heated debate about Paris and many
other issues from 9/11 to Sandy Hook. Posted by Idit on previous page.

They do remind me of couple of ' grumpy old men' ...lol but they
compliment each other well....

B4wSUvSqQLw

Cidersomerset
20th November 2015, 18:09
This is Davids weekly Video cast about Paris and the bigger
geo - political agenda he has been discussing for 25 years.

I must be obviously bias from the amount of vids I have
watched of David, and I don't agree with all his ideas,
but I don't see any conscious dis info in this or any other
I can remember . It does not mean he is right or wrong,
he is just sharing his ideas from all the research he has
done and is still doing daily. He is reporting from his tiny
office space in his one bedroom flat/apartment , on the
Isle of White , UK.


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How It Works: We Terrify You And Then We Do What We Want - The David Icke Videocast

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Published on 20 Nov 2015


David Icke Talks About Paris, What's Really Going
On and The Agenda That Is Unfolding Infront Of Us

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David Icke takes us on a tour of his house on the Isle of Wight

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Published on 2 Apr 2012

David Icke takes us on a tour of his house on the Isle of Wight and puts rest to the
rumours of him living in a mansion and owning a Bentley.

Flash
20th November 2015, 18:35
You are bringing the discussion to an entirely multi-facetted from a very high bird view level. Thanks for this, those very high bird views (or very deep inner views or multidimensionally ones) are also necessary for more critical thinking and in dept living.

They may seem not to pertain to a precise thread, like this one, but as you say, cross seeding between threads and ideas and perceptions of reality is a must if we are to evolve.

Thanks


***Warning - this long post begins on topic but transitions to discuss a much broader context for this entire mess. Read if you want to "zoom all the way out" of what's happening, skip it if you want to focus at the "current zoom level" of this thread ***

The beginning of these events anticipated since a month ago. You can know something will happen and still be powerless to do anything to stop it:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,39785.0.html


(Data) People in the West are waking up to the fact that we have basically mass migration of people from Syria and the Middle East. We have 4 million people displaced, and 180,000 went to Germany. A section of that stayed in other countries. I read in the news that some people in the West think this is suspicious. Why do they all want to go to Germany? Were they informed in some way by the government, or is this truly a grassroots movement where they just wanted to go to Germany?

A: Partly desperation and partly engineered. Let us say that the very real and desperate plight of refugees has been cynically utilized by nefarious agents.

Q: (Perceval) So the engineered part is to destabilize or put pressure on European governments?

A: Yes and more than that: to insert agents that will act against the various governments in the future.

Q: (L) I would like to know what is the percentage of real refugees to agents?

A: 94

Q: (L) 94 percent?

A: Yes

Q: (L) 94 percent are real refugees, but the rest are agents that are being sent in with them. And so who are the nefarious agents that have cynically utilized this refugee crisis to plant agents within European countries?

A: USA and allies of consortium.

It's a clever plan because it goes directly at odds with the black and white thinking everyone is taught to adopt. Either it's ok to welcome refugees, or it isn't. Either the official story is accurate, or it isn't.

The truth then always winds up in the both/neither category, which people never even consider as an option.

This psychological splitting of mainstream consciousness in two totally separated layers is a kind of beginning of caste-building, of developing a system within which generation after generation of a certain caste will think in one way or another.

It's a little bit like training an animal.

To be perfectly frank: some entities would consider human beings kind of like a pet monkey.

But they are wrong - where they exceed perhaps in left brain intelligence, they are inferior in right brain emotional intelligence, this part of their brain does not even exist.

We as human beings are still learning how to use emotional intelligence as a tool, rather than be victims to mood swings and so forth in the early stages of this higher frequency development.

So we are pushed down with DNA manipulation but despite it all we are pushing out from all barriers imposed and evolving anyway.

We are overriding the very system, the very pretenses that the human civilization was inserted onto this planet under.

A lot of what's happening is an attempt to regain control of "the experiment", because when we evolve beyond a point there is no more ability to control and so there is no longer any possibility of a contained experiment.

These plans take a long, long time to execute, and as such are of high importance - they guide the entire development of a civilization on a planet by inserting competing religions at the right stage of development, engineering conflict in some cases, consent in others, and so forth.

What is my point? The entirety of the "program" has been remotely viewed and all of the misinformation filtered out, a complete timeline exists which has recorded the actual truth rather than the manufactured history.

In the coming years, despite how it now looks, we will begin to firmly peel away from the timeline of "regulating the experiment" and towards the intended timeline of "fulfilling humankind's real destiny", something other benevolent entities out there are aware of and in full support of (what happens here on earth in the coming years will have an impact that echoes outwards across many galaxies..etc).

Too much to get into here and now, but the information is all forthcoming, one way or another.

In the best case scenario - it's not even necessary to focus on the dark past - we can just focus on the bright future by remembering together all of the information shut out of our psyches by this experiment, relating to collective consciousness, wave energy and science, and so forth.

In worse case scenarios then more will begin to be revealed about the past - the risk to them is then a corpus of knowledge that would prevent any and all further experimentation of the kind that has happened on this planet.

In the worst case scenario of all - whatever will go around will come around - the soul pool will remain intact as always but the soulless will be quarantined even further dimensionally.

In this greater reality, all entities must be allowed the time to learn their respective lessons, but the notion of a "deux ex machina" exists for the very reason that this cannot continue indefinitely. Eventually the balance always needs to be restored, in one way, or another.

The good news is that if there was *any flexibility at all* on the part of the ones who really want to maintain and advance the agenda of terror and the planet earth experiment, they could have a much better outcome as well.

If you study the nature of reality very, very carefully, you will notice that layer by layer, you have a system imposed onto a layer below, and then in that layer below there is a resistance to the orchestrators of the system from the layer above.

If you ever wonder just how vast the entirety of reality is - imagine that this pattern continues infinitely - that's how big it is.

Trying now to put this all into context -

1. This universe as a simulation to show the outcome of the interactions of many different entities over the course of countless aeons and years to a "layer above".

2. This planet as a simulation began by engineering 5 or more variants of humans, all with the same DNA restrictions, and a carefully engineered rise into global civilization since the very beginning (minus the battling against remnants of surviving knowledge from the previous experiment left over in certain populations on the planet / or against receivers of disallowed outside knowledge provided by other entities who were not a part of setting up this experiment)

3. The most powerful humans on earth split between supporting the experiment and some desiring to rebel against it

4. The masses of uninformed participants in the experiment who go along with whatever is status quo

5. The ones who have woken up to one part or another of all this and are starting to be unable to participate because they can see through the entire thing (if you haven't by now, you should by having read this message, if I've worded it correctly enough to represent the truth)

A lot of entities didn't seem to understand item number 1., though many clearly do. It is very much possible for a soul to get out from even layer 1. and that is "Avalon" out beyond the scope of layer 1, outside of this entire universe simulation.

It is also possible for a being to come in from outside, though it is rare, and not really supposed to need to happen. It is only happening when major corrections are needed that must be done manually within the simulation.

Normally soul fragment splitting and joining happen outside of the life cycle, but only within the simulation itself. The exception is when the soul joining occurs between outside the simulation and inside of it.

This happens towards the end of a major cycle of the universal simulation because the portal is beginning to open, the "Golden Bridge" to Avalon.

This might sound a bit incredible, and perhaps I am going too "off topic" in this thread, but there is no such thing as going "off topic" in a collective consciousness, all information weaves fluidly together, and one can see quickly when thinking from within the collective consciousness that something like a false flag event is one tiny part in a much, much bigger landscape of truth that is out there. Learning that landscape will help you deal with these things better.

If there is one thing that is being rebelled against most of all at Layer 1 of the simulation, it's the nature of what a collective consciousness represents. There are some entities that want no part of it - individual reality and thinking is the ultimate for them.

Combine this with the inability to develop emotional intelligence among some entities, and you have a good scenario for understanding why this Earth experiment exists, and what it is trying to prove.

Whether or not we can all "get along" is on test - but the odds are stacked against us - we are provoked into not getting along as much as possible.

Humans are being trained towards a dark path that is not natural or intuitive for us - it takes so many thousands of years of brainwashing and generational soul cycle training to have any real effect, and even then, it is only working for a very small percentage of us.

Those are the ones that are given the power and privilege because the system is designed to allow them to advance and "succeed" more easily with those priorities - the ones that are promoted with the artificial training program that is a big part of the experiment.

But in an experiment's "end game" like we are in now, the time left to achieve some kind of outcome or another is very small and there is an increasingly strong chance the goals are not achieved - the human's cannot be taught to hate each other against their own nature - proving there is no real reason entities across galaxies cannot in turn find ways of getting along as well - that certain aspects of an entity's development timeline within this universe *are natural* and *are universal*.

So if something is wrong with an entity's development, it needs to be fixed. It might be a symptom of issues in how the entire universal simulation was programmed from the outside, but it is not a sign that we should be calling into question how development within the universal simulation is actually supposed to work.

Let's cut to the chase then - if human's here on earth are finishing up undergoing a 3rd dimensional experience and would naturally evolve to a 5th dimensional experience, and there are 4th dimensional dwellers that for all intents and purposes don't want to be left behind, that are stuck, they will not be left behind, despite everything they did.

It IS natural to rebel against the system in the sense that when one is ready for it, one should not need to be going through a pre-planned simulation that has specific goals to accomplish and so forth - that is too basic like a childhood. But an entity has to be ready to take the reins of reality, to co-create with the right vibrations - not to try to block out a portion of reality from the rest and to create a dystopia within it.

Just to say "**** you" to the system.

It's madness and it's madness recursively up through all the dimensions in all the realities, no matter where you travel. This same rule applies.

Meta-reality is vast and endless, there are infinite experiences - but always there is this oscillation between being shown through a reality created for you, and gaining the privilege to create aspects of reality yourself.

It's not black and white at all, it's not one or the other like the religions "teach", it's on a fluid grayscale, evolving fractally all throughout the dimensional layers.

If this seems extremely tangential to talk about the Paris false flag - by now - of course it is - but read through again and find that one segment always connects to the next.

Don't trust the ways you've been taught to communicate either - the pillars of "single topics only, and no derailing the threads allowed!"

Free association in thought is one of the most powerful mental tools you have - it's a necessary capability to join into the aetheric thought pools of collective consciousness entity groups.

You don't "channel" and you don't "think for yourself", it's neither and both, at the same time.

There are ways of thinking that are quite literally a whole other world than the black and white thinking taught within this planetary experiment.

Time to start playing the flute and to get everyone out. Nobody deserves these kinds of experiments.

Sierra
20th November 2015, 19:06
David Icke takes us on a tour of his house on the Isle of Wight

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Published on 2 Apr 2012

David Icke takes us on a tour of his house on the Isle of Wight and puts rest to the
rumours of him living in a mansion and owning a Bentley.

Oh, that bathroom is sooooooo PINK! :facepalm:

I admire David Icke as a human being full on out trying to wake people up to the terrible reality of our slavery, our intended demise, and the deliberate destruction of the planet. His books are where I started my path of awakening.

David Icke works his butt off for the human race, for us. Very few people walk the walk he does, with such clarity, integrity, determination, and commitment.

Respect. :thumbsup: :heart: :thumbsup:

Delight
20th November 2015, 19:29
I did not see this posted?

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When False Flags Don't Fly (https://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20100419_false_flags.htm)

Those who have studied history know that nothing invigorates and empowers an authoritarian regime more than a spectacular act of violence, some sudden and senseless loss of life that allows the autocrat to stand on the smoking rubble and identify himself as the hero. It is at moments like this that the public—still in shock from the horror of the tragedy that has just unfolded before them—can be led into the most ruthless despotism: despotism that now bears the mantle of "security."

Acts of terror and violence never benefit the average man or woman. They only ever benefit those in positions of power.

This is why Nero fiddled while Rome burned: it gave him a chance to throw the Christians to the lions and rebuild the capital of the Roman Empire in his own image.

This is why Hearst and the warmongers of the emerging American Empire were delighted by the destruction of the U.S.S. Maine in Havana Harbor: it gave them the excuse they needed in order to rouse the public into supporting the Spanish-American War.

This is why Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967 during the Six Day War, strafing and torpedoing it relentlessly for hours in a vain attempt to send it to the bottom: the Israelis believed that the loss of the Liberty could be blamed on Egypt and draw the Americans into war.

This is why there are hundreds of documented examples of governments staging attacks in order to blame them on their political enemies. In every civilization, in every culture, in every historical period, authoritarians have known that spectacular acts of violence help to further consolidate their own power and control. And sadly, throughout history there have been all too many willing to allow attacks to occur, to pretend that attacks have occurred or even to attack their own population in order to further their political agenda.

To think that such staged provocations and false flag attacks no longer occur would be as unrealistic as believing that human nature itself has changed, that powerful people no longer seek to increase their power, that influence is never used for deceit or manipulation, that lies are no longer told to satisfy greed or slake the thirst for control. It is to believe that our society is immuned from those things that we have seen in every other society in every other era. In short, it is a dangerous delusion.

Cidersomerset
20th November 2015, 19:41
‘This is the apocalypse’ - Bataclan concert hall survivor

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Published on 20 Nov 2015

The terrorist attacks on France have shaken the whole Western world. More
than a hundred innocents were killed, and the worst took place at the Bataclan
concert hall, where people just gathered to listen to music...but instead faced
death at the hands of jihadists. What was happening there, when the concert
turned into a bloodbath? We speak to a man who faced death and survived, a
man who was inside the Bataclan hall when it all happened. Pierre Janaszak,
a survivor of the jihadist attack on Paris, is on Sophie&Co today.

Follow @SophieCo_RT

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

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Terror Attacks in France. Cui bono? US led Coalition Supports Terrorism

By Nina Beety

Global Research, November 18, 2015

16 November 2015

‘In the recent terrorist attacks in Paris, there are three important questions to ask.

1) Cui bono?

2) What country could surpass and thwart the sophisticated French intelligence and
surveillance system?

3) Why are outcry and public outpourings of support and grief so muted or entirely
absent when other countries are invaded or attacked by our forces,

France is on alert since the Charlie Hebdo and market attacks, with heightened security
due to President Hollande attending a public sporting event. Who has the resources to
wage a coordinated, well-armed, utterly secret attack across Paris and escape notice
despite surveillance?’

The answer is not “magical evil people,” unless you’ve been watching too much TV or
too many Western press conferences.

Look at what is happening in Syria. Look at the timing. There are no coincidences.
◾The U.S., allies, and ISIS are losing in Syria
◾The U.S. is losing support from European allies
◾The U.S. and allies support ISIS
◾The U.S. and allies want control of pipelines, resources, and the region

U.S., allies, and ISIS losing Syria

Russia, assisting the Syrian government, has destroyed almost 2000 terrorist targets in
a few short weeks – ammunition depots, command posts, training camps, fortified positions.
[1] The U.S.-led coalition, though claiming to fight terrorists for over a year, has had few
if any results. Syrians are retaking their country with the help of Russia, Iran, and Iraq.

The U.S. has repeatedly refused to cooperate with Russia or Syria. The U.S. and its partners
kill Syrians, destroy vital national Syrian infrastructure, and lie about Syria and Russia.

Discussions are underway for Syrian political solutions. In contrast, the U.S. funds and trains
mercenary terrorist forces to overthrow the democratically-elected and popular President
Bashar al-Assad. U.S. Special Envoy Daniel Rubenstein says Syrians may not even be part
of the envisioned Western-created government.[2]

The Russian proposals and assistance are gaining popularity internationally.

U.S. losing European support

European leaders talk about working with Russia to fight ISIS and other terrorist groups.
Members of the Bundestag (German Parliament) visited Moscow recently. Europeans are
being hurt by sanctions. Many oppose U.S.-NATO actions against Russia. The refugee crisis
is destabilizing Europe – a powerful impetus to work for peace in Syria.

U.S.-coalition support of terrorism

The U.S. and allies support ISIS and other terrorist groups with active, ongoing aid — supplies,
weapons, logistics, medical aid, and protection. This is well documented. These aren’t just a
few “mistaken” drops of weapons and supplies to ISIS forces. Turkey, Israel, the UK and
France are all involved.[3]

John McCain has been repeatedly photographed with these groups and their leaders.[4] Instead
of attacking ISIS, the U.S. and Israel have also attacked and murdered Syrian soldiers defending
their country.

U.S.-European regional goals

The U.S. and allies want control of pipelines, oil and gas, and the region.[5] This has been their
objective for decades. The U.S. began terrorizing Syria from the beginning, launching its first
CIA coup against Syria’s newly formed government in 1949.[6] The U.S. hasn’t stopped since
that time.[7] The British and French have been at this even longer.

The military mission by all coalition partners supports powerful economic and financial players.
U.S. actions have nothing to do with “American values”, U.S. defense, or the American people.
U.S. Marine Major General Smedley Butler said,


Read more: Terror Attacks in France. Cui bono? US led Coalition Supports Terrorism

http://www.globalresearch.ca/terror-attacks-in-france-cui-bono-us-led-coalition-supports-terrorism/5489661

Cidersomerset
20th November 2015, 19:47
US sticks to anti-Assad strategy in Syria, won’t share intel with Russia

LFvqpmvp_ik

Published on 20 Nov 2015

President Barack Obama remains committed to America's ISIS strategy - and says
it will eventually work. As part of that strategy, Washington has been refusing to
cooperate with President Assad in fighting Islamic State. But the groups who are
joining forces to oppose Assad's regime are partly responsible for the rise of ISIS.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Russian long-range heavy bombers in action over Syria

6nsT6aWGq8Q

Published on 19 Nov 2015

Russia’s Defense Ministry has released new videos of retribution attacks on Islamic
State (IS, formerly ISIS) with strategic bombers launching smart bombs and cruise
missiles. Read More: http://on.rt.com/6x01



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DRAGON’S FURY: China Vows to Strike ISIS as Chinese Hostage is Killed

November 19, 2015 By Stuart Hooper 11 Comments

21st Century Wire says…

The Chinese Dragon has awoken and may be about to deliver the final-blow to ISIS.

Watch a video of this report here:

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The Chinese Foreign Ministry has confirmed that a Chinese national has been executed
by ISIS, in response they are vowing to bring the group ‘to justice’ and to ‘strike’ them.

The national was 50 year old Fan Jinghui, a freelance consultant from Beijing; it is
currently unknown how he came to be captive in the Middle East.

Here is exactly what Chinese Foreign Ministry had to say:

“The Chinese government strongly condemns this savage act devoid of humanity and
will certainly bring the criminals to justice,”

“The Chinese government will resolutely oppose all forms of terrorism, and resolutely
strike at any violent terrorist criminal activities that defy the bottom lines of human culture.”

On Wednesday an ISIS propaganda magazine published pictures of both Fan and a
Norwegian hostage, Ole Johan Grimsgaard-Ofstad, showing they had both been executed.

http://21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/china2.jpg
Sick. Ransom ‘advert’ that appeared in an ISIS propaganda magazine.

The Syrian Army, the Kurds and the Russians have been the principle forces fighting ISIS,
and President Putin has repeatedly called for a stronger international coalition to be formed
to help destroy the threat.

The potential addition of the Chinese to that group would certainly make it a whole lot more
formidable. China’s military is simply huge with many considering it to take third place in
global military strength rankings, behind Russia and the United States.The Chinese military is
also technologically advanced to a level that puts it on par with both Russia and the United States.

While China can, unquestionably, help to solve the world’s ISIS problem, their presence in the
Middle East could only heighten already growing international tensions – making the region,
and the world, more dangerous by the day.

Let us hope they can work with other countries already participating to ensure a peaceful outcome
in the wake of this current wave of global hysteria following the Paris Attacks.

READ MORE ON THE ISIS CRISIS: 21st Century Wire ISIS Files

http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/11/19/dragons-fury-china-vows-to-strike-isis-as-chinese-hostage-is-killed/

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Paris attacks: Woman 'was not suicide bomber' in raid
54 minutes ago

French media have cast doubt on the possibility that the female cousin of the
presumed ringleader of the Paris attacks blew herself up in Wednesday's police raid
in the Saint-Denis suburb.

Police sources now say that the suicide bomber was in fact a man, not 26-year-old
Hasna Ait Boulahcen.Her cousin, alleged ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud is also
confirmed to have died in the raid. A third body was also found which is still being
identified.Also on Friday, prosecutors said that a second suicide bomber from the
Stade de France attack passed through Greece on his way to France.

Read More....

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/155D/production/_86796450_parisattackers.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34885606


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Does ISIS Exist? Some Say No

cRVhpK907A4

Streamed live on 18 Nov 2015

What is ISIS and how did it come into being? The US claims Syrian president Assad
is responsible for the rise of ISIS. Many others trace its origin to the disastrous US
attack on Iraq in 2003. But is there really an ISIS -- and if so who is behind it?

Be sure to visit http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com for more libertarian commentary.

norman
20th November 2015, 19:58
I'm still hoping there is a new and real war on terror taking over from the old fake war on terror.

I still can't be sure, but, suppose for a moment that the "BRICS" nations are about to take over the war on terror and make it real, including releasing information that puts the real culprits behind all the recent false flag events in the spotlight.

They've had plenty of time to process all the Edward Snowden information by now.

Wouldn't that be a good thing?

Calz
20th November 2015, 20:12
dunno norman.

Some compelling thought suggests the East/West/Good/Evil thing is simply part of the programming hoped to usher in the NWO.

Seriously ... look at how ridiculous the West has been looking and the East ... hey ... Putin can do no wrong.

Our hero.

Our Savior.


Or is he???


Globalists know no boundary and they are the ones calling the shots.


Never forget that.


So very very much of what we have foisted upon us as reality is nonsense ...


Always follow the money.


http://dreamchimney.com/oftheday/otd_images/20100831094753_auto.gif

norman
20th November 2015, 20:26
Anyway, SOMEONE ! thought Friday the thirteenth was the right date for this big event in Paris.

We can read it both ways.

It could be a retalition gesture, or it could be a big boot coming down on the 'same' people, loud and clear.

observer
20th November 2015, 20:30
There is only one power, operating behind all the smoke-and-mirrors, the wizard behind the curtain, if you will.


No one can see it.
No one understands its motives.
No one knows just how to stop it, although many think they do.
It knows all, sees all, and is in total control.
....and I can assure everyone, it is not a good thing, as many have been led to believe.

Flash
20th November 2015, 20:39
If the Chinese Citizen was killed and the Chinese dragon has awaken it is because:

1. The Chinese dragon wants to be awaken (one Citizen killed is not enough to justify entering into a war as such)
2. This was planned for a long time:
a) either making sure something is found for the Chinese to justify publically and internationally their involvement
b) making sure the Chinese are dragged into a war (from the Cabal through ISIS), the killing of their Citizen being the last blow done to them, the first one having been the loss of their scientists in the disappeared plane, the second being the factory that blew off with lots of people killed on their land (ISIS never claimed that one, where was it from?)

It has all the taste and smell of Cabal or higher high garbage "elite" (so me they are the bottomest ones, not the higher one, the hierarchy is upside down) doing everything in their power to start world war III, but absolutely everything, this is sooooooo obvious that the overall target is this.





US sticks to anti-Assad strategy in Syria, won’t share intel with Russia

LFvqpmvp_ik

Published on 20 Nov 2015

President Barack Obama remains committed to America's ISIS strategy - and says
it will eventually work. As part of that strategy, Washington has been refusing to
cooperate with President Assad in fighting Islamic State. But the groups who are
joining forces to oppose Assad's regime are partly responsible for the rise of ISIS.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Russian long-range heavy bombers in action over Syria

6nsT6aWGq8Q

Published on 19 Nov 2015

Russia’s Defense Ministry has released new videos of retribution attacks on Islamic
State (IS, formerly ISIS) with strategic bombers launching smart bombs and cruise
missiles. Read More: http://on.rt.com/6x01



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DRAGON’S FURY: China Vows to Strike ISIS as Chinese Hostage is Killed

November 19, 2015 By Stuart Hooper 11 Comments

21st Century Wire says…

The Chinese Dragon has awoken and may be about to deliver the final-blow to ISIS.

Watch a video of this report here:

O4rd9M8MWts

The Chinese Foreign Ministry has confirmed that a Chinese national has been executed
by ISIS, in response they are vowing to bring the group ‘to justice’ and to ‘strike’ them.

The national was 50 year old Fan Jinghui, a freelance consultant from Beijing; it is
currently unknown how he came to be captive in the Middle East.

Here is exactly what Chinese Foreign Ministry had to say:

“The Chinese government strongly condemns this savage act devoid of humanity and
will certainly bring the criminals to justice,”

“The Chinese government will resolutely oppose all forms of terrorism, and resolutely
strike at any violent terrorist criminal activities that defy the bottom lines of human culture.”

On Wednesday an ISIS propaganda magazine published pictures of both Fan and a
Norwegian hostage, Ole Johan Grimsgaard-Ofstad, showing they had both been executed.

http://21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/china2.jpg
Sick. Ransom ‘advert’ that appeared in an ISIS propaganda magazine.

The Syrian Army, the Kurds and the Russians have been the principle forces fighting ISIS,
and President Putin has repeatedly called for a stronger international coalition to be formed
to help destroy the threat.

The potential addition of the Chinese to that group would certainly make it a whole lot more
formidable. China’s military is simply huge with many considering it to take third place in
global military strength rankings, behind Russia and the United States.The Chinese military is
also technologically advanced to a level that puts it on par with both Russia and the United States.

While China can, unquestionably, help to solve the world’s ISIS problem, their presence in the
Middle East could only heighten already growing international tensions – making the region,
and the world, more dangerous by the day.

Let us hope they can work with other countries already participating to ensure a peaceful outcome
in the wake of this current wave of global hysteria following the Paris Attacks.

READ MORE ON THE ISIS CRISIS: 21st Century Wire ISIS Files

http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/11/19/dragons-fury-china-vows-to-strike-isis-as-chinese-hostage-is-killed/

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Paris attacks: Woman 'was not suicide bomber' in raid
54 minutes ago

French media have cast doubt on the possibility that the female cousin of the
presumed ringleader of the Paris attacks blew herself up in Wednesday's police raid
in the Saint-Denis suburb.

Police sources now say that the suicide bomber was in fact a man, not 26-year-old
Hasna Ait Boulahcen.Her cousin, alleged ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud is also
confirmed to have died in the raid. A third body was also found which is still being
identified.Also on Friday, prosecutors said that a second suicide bomber from the
Stade de France attack passed through Greece on his way to France.

Read More....

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/155D/production/_86796450_parisattackers.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34885606


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They do not quote the main points discussed by real alternate researchers and
members in previous posts. They do touch on some aspects.....

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Does ISIS Exist? Some Say No

cRVhpK907A4

Streamed live on 18 Nov 2015

What is ISIS and how did it come into being? The US claims Syrian president Assad
is responsible for the rise of ISIS. Many others trace its origin to the disastrous US
attack on Iraq in 2003. But is there really an ISIS -- and if so who is behind it?

Be sure to visit http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com for more libertarian commentary.

norman
20th November 2015, 20:50
Well, if all this is a build up to World war, there's one objective to that.

Someone has to sign surrender papers. It seems to me that's most likely to be the so called western alliance. Why bother, otherwise?

It's the people of the 'west' that they are struggling with. The western mind set, lifestyle and expectations. IF the softly softly approach doesn't get them where they want to go, sure, they'll have a world war to get it done, but don't be surprised when we discover who has to surrender, at the end of it.

Far better to support precision tactics that take out just the criminals.

I hear The Prime Minister of Britain has announced a huge budget for "special forces". Oh really?

Perhaps it's a sneaky way of building up the bodyguard barrier around the crooks.

Calz
20th November 2015, 21:03
There is only one power, operating behind all the smoke-and-mirrors, the wizard behind the curtain, if you will.


No one can see it.
No one understands its motives.
No one knows just how to stop it, although many think they do.
It knows all, sees all, and is in total control.
....and I can assure everyone, it is not a good thing, as many have been led to believe.


I agree *completely* ...

Yet we tend to lose a few people when going that far down the rabbit hole.


How best to try to suggest "the truth" as we understand it???


Shall we focus on the banksters ... those lovable pyschopaths who we can see, hear, touch and ... smell???

Something tangible ... something "real"???


Or shall we suggest what I agree is the "real truth" as you suggest?


Does not that lend itself to a sense of hopelessness for many???


I have stopped talking to people in real life about these things. Part of the reason my family is breaking up. Most others as well.


Most simply don't want to deal with such ... get quite angry if one persists.


Very frustrating ... and why I appreciate having so many members here on PA who we can talk about things like this openly.

norman
20th November 2015, 21:09
I agree with Calz and Observer about how clever the manipulators are. But, if we turn "Deer in the headlights" into a philosophy, we have no chance.

observer
20th November 2015, 23:55
Recently, another member accused me of being depressed for spending too much time down the rabbit hole. It has been suggested many times that my comments do a disservice to the community. This is just the kind of thing someone who has peeked-down that hole and was frightened back out would conclude. The deeper one goes into any rabbit hole, the more enlightened one becomes about the true nature of the rabbit dwelling there. Only a few among us are meant to do this kind of work.

Having spent my entire adult life investigating the nature of this reality, for me personally, I can only say, when the precise moment comes, I'm determined to break-free of this matrix. Never in the historic record, has there ever been a change to the nature of our Common Reality. Faith in a belief system that tells us we can, only perpetuates the hypnotic spell.

M-Albion-3D
21st November 2015, 02:54
Recently, another member accused me of being depressed for spending too much time down the rabbit hole. It has been suggested many times that my comments do a disservice to the community. This is just the kind of thing someone who has peeked-down that hole and was frightened back out would conclude. The deeper one goes into any rabbit hole, the more enlightened one becomes about the true nature of the rabbit dwelling there. Only a few among us are meant to do this kind of work.

Having spent my entire adult life investigating the nature of this reality, for me personally, I can only say, when the precise moment comes, I'm determined to break-free of this matrix. Never in the historic record, has there ever been a change to the nature of our Common Reality. Faith in a belief system that tells us we can, only perpetuates the hypnotic spell.

Some words from Jay Weidner on conspiracy....

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--tam0uh-oiajJrWWVQaWNPUXM/view?usp=sharing

Calz
21st November 2015, 03:03
Jay Weidner has long been one of my favorite souls to listen to.

Have a number of his dvds.

It seems "they" finally did get to him and scare him into shutting down one of his latest projects ... don't remember the details.

Cidersomerset
21st November 2015, 17:29
From this short little clip from a journalist who spent time with ISIS
last year ,says a couple of telling things , they were funded by the
Gulf states and Arab monarchies and got most of their ammunition
from the American supplies ' supposedly sent to the 'Free Syrian army'.

This has been reported widely elsewhere . So the US intelligence are
either completely inept and stupid again ? ! or its more likely policy to
arm ISIS thru the backdoor as they have done in many operations
before. Just ask Oliver North and many others , who have been involved
with CIA and other agency ops over the years.

They do not go into detail in this piece but we know Saudi , Israel
and others are involved in destabilizing the area as per Gen Wesley
Clarks and other revelations over the past decade.

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The first Western journalist to be allowed access into ISIL territory spent 10 days
among the terrorists a year ago. Jurgen Todenhofer visited Raqqa, which serves as
the capital of Islamic State's self-declared сaliphate. He also travelled to territories
controlled by the terrorist group in Iraq.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

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Russia to send ‘Dobrynya’ to France after service dog killed in Saint-Denis raid

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Published on 21 Nov 2015

In a gesture of support, Russia’s Interior Ministry has decided to send a German
Shepherd puppy to the French police that lost a seven-year-old Belgian Shepherd
service dog, named Diesel. Read More: http://on.rt.com/6x6f

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UN Security Council unanimously adopts resolution against ISIS

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Published on 20 Nov 2015

France has proposed a resolution to the UN Security Council on countering Islamic
State terrorists in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Paris. The draft was adopted
unanimously today in New York. READ MORE: http://on.rt.com/6x6b

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UN Security Council unanimously approves war on ISIS

By David Icke on 21st November 2015 War and Terror

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PRESS TV...

UN Security Council unanimously approves war on ISIS

Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:3PM

The United Nations Security Council has called for “all necessary measures” to fight
Daesh Takfiri terrorists after France presented a draft resolution to the 15-member
council calling for a war on the terror group.

The French-proposed resolution, which was adopted unanimously in a Security
Council meeting, calls on all countries to “take the war on terrorism” to Daesh-
controlled territory in Syria and Iraq and destroy its “safe haven,” the council said
in a statement on Friday.

The statement also warned that the Takfiri group “has the capability and intention”
to mount further deadly attacks like the ones it launched on Paris and Beirut last
week. It added that the threat posed by Daesh would make all regions and member
states, even those far from the conflict zones, suffer.’

Read more: UN Security Council unanimously approves war on ISIS

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/20/438493/UN-UNSC-France-Paris-Daesh-Syria-Iraq-Russia

Cidersomerset
21st November 2015, 17:49
Paris Attackers Fought In Syria, Trained In Israel: Report

21st November 2015

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ACTIVIST POST.......

‘Hosein Mortada has provided details about one of the individuals who
carried out the Paris attack on Saturday November 13th with the rest
of his crew of jihadists. His name is Abo Talha Al Jazaeri (Aljazaeri
means ‘Algerian’).

Abo Talha, a French national, has been trained in the Occupied Golan
Heights, along with his crew who carried out Paris attack operation.

All of the terrorists involved with the Paris attacks were European nationals,
previously fighting in Syria alongside Al Nusra Front and then moved to
Al Raqqa to join the so-called ISIS, Islamic State in Syria and the Levant.

Finally they moved to Quneitra, Daraa, and their last station was in the
Zionist entity, Israel, at a site called Bait Zorah where they have been
trained by Israeli Mossad.’

Read more: Paris Attackers Fought In Syria, Trained In Israel: Report
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/11/paris-attackers-fought-in-syria-trained-in-israel-report.html

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John McCain calls for 10,000 US ground troops in Syria

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

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‘The United States could ‘take out’ the Islamic State (IS) group with the
deployment of 10,000 ground troops, US Senator John McCain has told
FRANCE 24 in an exclusive interview.

The Republican former presidential candidate said the IS group posed
“a direct threat” to the United States that could be dealt a knock-out
blow with a ground deployment in Syria.

“Ground troops [means]about 10,000 Americans with a coalition of Arab
countries, hopefully NATO countries, maybe even France, where we could
go in on the ground with sufficient air support to take out ISIS,” McCain
said, using another acronym for the Islamic State militants. “They are
not invincible, there are not unbeatable.”’

http://www.france24.com/en/20151119-john-mccain-syria-islamic-state-jihadists-usa-soldiers-republican

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Exclusive interview: John McCain calls for 10,000 US ground troops in Syria

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Published on 19 Nov 2015

Subscribe to France 24 now: http://f24.my/youtubeEN
FRANCE 24 live news stream: all the latest news 24/7
http://f24.my/YTliveEN

Cidersomerset
21st November 2015, 17:57
ISIS Buys Shoulder-Fired Missiles, Telecommunications Devices from Ukrainian Company

By David Icke on 21st November 2015 War and Terror

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Kuwait has uncovered an international cell that has supplied ISIS
terrorist group with Ukrainian-made weapons, funds and new recruits

The information came from Kuwait’s Interior Ministry, which identified
the leader of the group as a 45-year-old Lebanese national, Osama
Khayat. The ringleader was detained first and gave up the information
about the rest of the members during interrogation, the ministry said
in a statement. Six members were arrested but four others, including
Australian-Lebanese nationals, remain on the run abroad.

The cell was involved in making arms deals on behalf of the ISIL terrorist
group leaders in Syria, including acquiring Ukrainian-made FN-6 portable
air defense systems and other weaponry, according to the information
provided by Khayat.’

Read more: ISIS Buys Shoulder-Fired Missiles, Telecommunications Devices from Ukrainian Company

http://en.alalam.ir/news/1761487

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Kuwait uncovers extremist cell that ‘brought arms from Ukraine to ISIS’

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Subscribe to France 24 now: http://f24.my/youtubeEN
FRANCE 24 live news stream: all the latest news 24/7
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Gun Boom: Firearm sales spike in US after Paris attacks

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Published on 21 Nov 2015
Arms sales across the US are also booming following terror attacks in Europe.
RT's Gayane Chichakyan has visited several gun shops.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Cidersomerset
21st November 2015, 18:13
War to remove Syria’s Assad ‘illegal’: Congresswoman

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

PRESS TV.....

War to remove Syria's Assad 'illegal': Congresswoman

Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:3AM

‘A Democratic congresswoman calls on the United States to stop the
“illegal, counterproductive war” to overthrow the Syrian government
and focus instead on defeating the Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group.

Appearing on CNN on Friday, Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii
said the campaign to remove Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is
“illegal because Congress has not declared war. It has not authorized
a war to overthrow the Syrian government of Assad.”

“I don’t think Assad should be removed,” she said, arguing that if the
Syrian government is toppled, extremist groups like ISIL and al-Qaeda
will take over Syria. “They will be even stronger.”’

The United States has been backing what it calls moderate militants
fighting against the Assad government. Senior US officials, including
President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry, have
repeatedly called for Assad's removal.

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US congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (AFP photo)

Gabbard, an Iraq-war veteran, said the US seems to be repeating
“the same mistakes of the past.”

“People said the very same thing about Saddam (Hussein), the very
same thing about (Muammar) Gaddafi, the results of those two failed
efforts of regime change and the following nation-building have been
absolute, not only have they been failures, but they've actually worked
to strengthen our enemy," she stated.

“Look at the state of these countries today,” Gabbard added. “They
have been overrun and are filled with chaos. And ISIS and extremist
groups have only grown stronger in these countries and terrorizing
the people there.”

Gabbard co-sponsored legislation on Thursday to block the US from
waging a war to remove President Assad from power.

US State Department spokesman John Kirby said Thursday that Assad’s
fate will be decided in international talks in the coming weeks.

"What I can tell you is that in the multilateral sessions, which will
continue to occur going forward, the role of Assad in this transition
will be spelled out," Kirby told reporters.

Read more: War to remove Syria’s Assad ‘illegal’: Congresswoman

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/21/438518/US-Syria-war-Assad-ISIL
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Russia ‘must change strategy’ in Syria if it wants to join US-led ‘anti-ISIS’ coalition – State Dept

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

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Russia is not welcome to join the US-led coalition in Syria, as France
has proposed, until it changes its “focus” and stops “propping up”
President Assad, the US State Department said. Yet, Washington
continues to insist their goal isn’t defeating Assad.

“If other nations not in the coalition [the US-led coalition]want to join
it and become part of it and focus on the fight against ISIL [Islamic
State/IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL] that’s a conversation we’re certainly
willing to have,” US State Department spokesperson John Kirby said.’

Read more: Russia ‘must change strategy’ in Syria if it wants to join
US-led ‘anti-ISIS’ coalition – State Dept

https://www.rt.com/usa/322956-russia-isis-coalition-washington/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

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CNN’s New ‘Source’: ISIS Magazine – Claims ‘Schweppes Bomb’ Brought Down Russian Airliner

November 20, 2015 By 21wire 3 Comments

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Patrick Henningsen
21st Century Wire

‘Just when you thought the mainstream media coverage couldn’t get anymore surreal…

Question: should ‘ISIS’ be considered a credible news source? Sadly, CNN does.

In the wake of the Paris Attacks, a most disturbing trend has suddenly emerged in the
mainstream media’s ‘terror’ coverage – where CNN, FOX News, and other majors are
now deferring to ISIS press releases as a primary news source.

1-ISIS-dabiq-magazineLeading the charge on Wednesday was CNN’s intrepid reporter,
Chris Cuomo, who seemed uncomfortably dazzled by a report in the latest English
language issue of ‘ISIS Monthly’ aka DABIQ Magazine (image, left), a glossy coffee
table rag filled with colorful jihadi lifestyle features and career advice for aspiring
young terrorists (if only it were a joke).’

Schweppes Bomb

The DABIQ article proudly displays an image of a 16oz Schweppes Gold pineapple soda can
with a few bits alongside it, claiming that this was the bomb that brought down Russia’s
Metrojet Airbus A321 – a plane which broke up in midair 20 minutes into its journey after
leaving Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, en route to St. Petersburg, Russia on Oct. 31st.

The DABIQ article goes on to reveal a grand plot (albeit, after the fact), saying, “After resolving
to bring down a plane belonging to a nation in the American-led Western coalition against ISIS,
the target was changed to a Russian plane”.

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Read more: CNN’s New ‘Source’: ISIS Magazine – Claims ‘Schweppes Bomb’ Brought Down Russian Airliner


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‘**** you terrorists, I’m walking to work!’ Jonathan Pie on the Paris attacks

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

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Cidersomerset
21st November 2015, 18:20
ISIS , Saudi - Saudi ISIS there is not a lot of difference on some levels ?

WTF? Crucifixion, Beheading, Stoning, Saudi Arabia and ISIS/ISIL have near-identical punishments!!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85350-WTF-Crucifixion-Beheading-Stoning-Saudi-Arabia-and-ISIS-ISIL-have-near-identical-punishments--&p=1021785#post1021785

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Palestinian poet gets death sentence for ‘abandoning Islam’
in Saudi Arabia – Human Rights Watch

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

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‘A Palestinian poet has been sentenced to death by a Saudi Arabian court
for allegedly abandoning his Muslim faith, Human Rights Watch reports.
The death sentence comes after an initial 2014 verdict that sentenced the
poet to four years in prison and 800 lashes.

Poet Ashraf Fayadh was detained in Abha, southwest Saudi Arabia, in 2013
due to allegations by a prosecution witness, who claimed he heard Fayadh
cursing God, the Prophet Mohammed and Saudi Arabia. Also, the prosecution
alleged offenses based on a book of poems Fayadh had written several years
prior to that.

The poet’s friends, however, believe he was being punished for posting a video
showing Saudi Arabia’s religious police (mutaween) lashing a man in public.’

Read more: Palestinian poet gets death sentence for ‘abandoning Islam’ in Saudi Arabia – Human Rights Watch

https://www.rt.com/news/322971-poet-death-sentence-saudi-arabia/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome



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Meanwhile with all the recent distractions Israel have been oppressing Palestinians
there are many articles on the headline page daily , which I have not posted but
Israel are taking advantage of the situation is Syria.

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Israel to expel Palestinians from Jerusalem for ‘disloyalty’

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

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Israel is moving to revoke the residency of four Palestinian residents of occupied
East Jerusalem for alleged disloyalty to the state.

The four young men were accused of stone-throwing and armed attacks.

Last month, interior minister Silvan Shalom vowed to revoke the residency permits
of those alleged to have attacked Israelis.

When Israel occupied East Jerusalem in June 1967, formally annexing it in 1980,
Palestinians living there became “permanent residents,” a status that is vulnerable
to revocation and requires holders to fulfill certain conditions to maintain.’

Read more: Israel to expel Palestinians from Jerusalem for ‘disloyalty’

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/charlotte-silver/israel-expel-palestinians-jerusalem-disloyalty?utm_source=EI+readers&utm_campaign=706bb431bd-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e802a7602d-706bb431bd-299185473

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Unreported Crimes against Humanity: More Than 800 Women and Children Have
Died in Yemen, and No One Has Food

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

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Yemen’s humanitarian and human rights catastrophe continues to worsen,
according to new UN figures which put the number of killed since late March at
more than 5,700.

Speaking to reporters in Cairo by videoconference, the UN’s humanitarian
coordinator for Yemen Johannes Van Der Klauww said that 830 of the dead were
women and children. UN officials had earlier put the total number of civilians killed
at more than 2,600.

As the death toll in the conflict pitting Saudi-led coalition forces against Shia Houthi
rebels and their allies continues to rise, humanitarian conditions have only grown
more dire, said the coordinator. 21.2 million people in the country – 82 percent of
its entire population – are in need of some sort of humanitarian assistance.’

Read more: Unreported Crimes against Humanity: More Than 800 Women and
Children Have Died in Yemen, and No One Has Food

https://news.vice.com/article/more-than-800-women-and-children-have-died-in-yemen-and-no-one-has-food?utm_source=vicenewsfb

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About 400 Palestinian children held in Israeli jails: Rights group

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

PRESS TV...

About 400 Palestinian children held in Israeli jails: Rights group
Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:3AM

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‘A rights group says nearly 400 Palestinian children ranging from 13 to 17 years old
are currently being held in Israeli jails.

The Palestinian Prisoners’ Society (PPS) said in a statement on Friday that most of
the children had been arrested by Israeli forces across the occupied Palestinian
lands since the beginning of October, the Palestinian Ma’an news agency reported.

The statement pointed out that Israeli forces arrested roughly 700 Palestinian
children across the occupied West Bank and East al-Quds (Jerusalem) in the course
of the current uprising that surged early last month.

It also noted that many of those released on bail were being kept under house arrest.’

Read more: About 400 Palestinian children held in Israeli jails: Rights group

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/21/438496/Israel-The-Palestinian-Prisoners-Society-PPS-West-Bank-alQuds

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Rights groups blast Bahrain over children rights abuses

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

PRESS TV...

Rights groups blast Bahrain over children rights abuses
Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:59AM

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‘Several Bahraini rights groups have strongly denounced the Al Khalifah regime’s
continued violation of the rights of hundreds of children in breach of UN
conventions.The Bahrain Center for Human Rights (BCHR) said on Friday that the
regime authorities repeatedly violated the rights of children by imprisoning and
committing acts of torture against them.

Their torture and imprisonment flagrantly violates the United Nations Convention
on the Rights of the Child, the rights group added.’

Read more: Rights groups blast Bahrain over children rights abuses

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/21/438504/Bahrain-BCHR-UN-Children-rights-Manama

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Turkish pro-Kurdish MP sentenced to jail over alleged PKK links

By David Icke on 21st November 2015

PRESS TV...

Turkish pro-Kurdish MP sentenced to jail over alleged PKK links
Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:54AM

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‘A court in Turkey has sentenced a lawmaker from the country’s left-wing and pro-
Kurdish Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) to more than six years in prison over
alleged affiliation to the “terrorist” Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).

On Friday, the 2nd High Penal Court in Turkey’s eastern province of Van handed
down a six-year-and-three-month jail term to Lezgin Botan.

Jail terms with similar lengths were also given to former HDP legislator Selami
Ozyasar and two members from a teachers’ union.’

Read more: Turkish pro-Kurdish MP sentenced to jail over alleged PKK links

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/21/438521/Turkey-HDP-lawmaker-jail-term

avid
21st November 2015, 18:30
I also watch a mixture of alternative tv online news channels, to counterbalance the mainstream mind-control. I really love the rt documentaries, covering loads of unreported cultures. Not to take every piece of news as 'given', it would seem RT has the edge on what is 'really' going on. At the moment.... 👍

In the great scheme of things, in current obvious disinfo, and having watched/listened to many hours of opinions, logistics and searched for thousands of non-existant witness images, I have to deduce this was an extremely elaborate false flag, with timeline problems. I do hope the real death toll is minimal, and pray those poor souls can move on.

Thanks to everyone who has, and is still contributing to this thread, to enable many people to see more clearly.

idiit
21st November 2015, 18:58
the whole thang is doing Israel's bidding. Israel wants to dominate the Mideast and the usa is complying with the creation of isis, removal of assad, bombing the Syrian infrastructure back to the stone age.

the one place isis has not attacked is Israel.

where do wounded isis fighters go to get medical? ISRAEL/Turkey.


According to a leading Turkish newspaper (Today’s Zaman), Turkish nurses are sick of providing free medical treatment to ISIS terrorists in Turkish hospitals.


In the past three months, battle-hardened Syrian rebels have transported scores of wounded Syrians across a cease-fire line that has separated Israel from Syria since 1974, according to a 15-page report by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on the work of the U.N. Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF). Once in Israel, they receive medical treatment in a field clinic before being sent back to Syria, where, presumably, some will return to carry on the fight.

U.N. blue helmets responsible for monitoring the decades-old cease-fire report observing armed opposition groups “transferring 89 wounded persons” from Syrian territory into Israel, where they were received by members of the Israel Defense Forces, according to the report. The IDF returned 21 Syrians to armed opposition members back in Syria, including the bodies of two who died.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39825.htm


From providing medical aid, military training, and outright military assistance, the so-called state of Israel has been a much better friend to Muslim terrorists than any of the regimes it claims as its enemy.

For instance, it has been well-known for quite some time that Israel has been providing wounded Syrian rebels with medical treatment inside Israel so that they can continue the Jihad against the secular government of Bashar al-Assad.

http://www.activistpost.com/2014/08/why-arent-isis-and-al-qaeda-attacking.html

Rocky_Shorz
21st November 2015, 20:57
I also watch a mixture of alternative tv online news channels, to counterbalance the mainstream mind-control. I really love the rt documentaries, covering loads of unreported cultures. Not to take every piece of news as 'given', it would seem RT has the edge on what is 'really' going on. At the moment.... 👍

In the great scheme of things, in current obvious disinfo, and having watched/listened to many hours of opinions, logistics and searched for thousands of non-existant witness images, I have to deduce this was an extremely elaborate false flag, with timeline problems. I do hope the real death toll is minimal, and pray those poor souls can move on.

Thanks to everyone who has, and is still contributing to this thread, to enable many people to see more clearly.

Time Warner cable seems to be the only Network RT is broadcast through, I used to get it on antennae, but seems they have scrambled the airwaves...

I can't even find a dish network that offers RT, should we consider Time Warner as a friendly for giving the public something everyone else bans?


until the war against isis, Kurdistan had always considered Israel as friendly.

they have been shocked Israel is helping fighters who are killing their women and children...

one Kurd said one of the isis fighters confessed under persuasion, there is an agreement at the top with Israel and Turkey, give isis arms and medical aid and their nations won't be touched.

the ultimate blackmail...

the 2 most powerful militaries in the middle east completely helpless to fight against a bunch of caveman dweebs...

avid
21st November 2015, 21:10
I am not in your locale, so cannot comment technically. Even in UK, some major tv providers discriminate against RT, ie Virgin cable. Freeview, Freesat etc seem to be fine. Good luck with your search for a variety of sources, most of whom are now online. 👍

Hervé
21st November 2015, 21:31
About the PKK:

http://www.france24.com/en/20151113-video-reporter-pkk-kurdistan-iraq-turkey-kurds-ergodan-islamic-state
FRANCE 24 brings you a rare look inside the PKK, the Kurdistan Workers' Party, in the midst of fighting a guerrilla war against the Turkish army and the Islamic State group.

Cidersomerset
21st November 2015, 21:44
I also watch a mixture of alternative tv online news channels, to
counterbalance the mainstream mind-control. I really love the rt
documentaries, covering loads of unreported cultures. Not to take every
piece of news as 'given', it would seem RT has the edge on what is
'really' going on. At the moment.... 👍

I was looking for a thread put up back along about where do you get your news or
something on those lines ? I was trying to find what I put , sources do change and
vary , but for the last few years .My usual morning ritual is to log on the BBC
website for the local Bridgwater weather , as I work outside and where I noticed
chemtrails around 2007/8 as I started hearing reports and vids on alternate media,
and is a standing joke in work as I tried to explain what they were to some of them
back then. Only a few acknowledge it , the same with 9/11 and all these wars ,
some take an interest , but until it effects there life directly they are living in the
everydayreality of mainstream propaganda and general apathy of life.

Most work hard and have family and other issues and play sport, socialise and
enjoy themselves . Others are less fortunate and falling thru or being rejected by
the system in Europe and especially the US with homelessness and poverty
growing , while the elites and 'class' systems are creeping back. There have always
been haves and have not's even in the good times .

So although these events are screaming 'false flag' and political manipulation in the
Middle East and other places over the last century , reviewing the situation with the
benefit of hind sight . Most people just do not engage in what they see as the
domain of the political class's and the media. Which they know, and is how they
get away with it.

Anyway I digress...LOL...I check the weather, then the News page , sports page
and science pages usually,Then RT UK as they update their U'tubes regularly.
I used to go on Channell four as some of their reporting is good, but they are not
that quick updating their web page. Then I look at David Ickes headline page
for the more exotic links to various news outlets.


RT UK is on channel 135

RT America
https://www.youtube.com/user/rtamerica?feature=results_main

norman
21st November 2015, 21:48
RT has been punching without the gloves for this past couple of weeks since the fancy Russian smart bomb videos on youtube.

I hope it all comes to something, and I don't end up as depressed as before.

edit to add:

I really don't think the Pentagon or the Whitehouse are really ready to say NO to Putin doing whatever the hell he thinks is right in the middle east right now.

That's the point, I take from this stuff now. Putin is doing what's right. The US hasn't got enough ducks in a row to argue with him about it in public. If Jeb Bush gets into the whitehouse, who knows?

observer
21st November 2015, 23:15
Kerry Cassidy recently posted a round-table interview, in which three very bright individuals have made comments regarding the world-view being played-out, relating to the topic of this thread. In my opnion, Jim Marrs, Jim Fetzer and Robert Morningstar, are perhaps three of the most level-headed objective researchers Kerry could have brought into this discussion.

Start listening at the 26 minute mark in Part II of her interview, and listen through to the end:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrjM5b1M-eM

Violet
21st November 2015, 23:45
Things are going too fast. I'm worried that in the absence of a time-frame to think things over, people will accept proposals which would otherwise have been met with more reluctance.

Cidersomerset
21st November 2015, 23:59
Paris Attacks, False Flags & ISIS’ True Leadership with Webster Tarpley

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86922-Paris-Attacks-False-Flags-ISIS---True-Leadership


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Published on 20 Nov 2015


Questions of the Paris attack being a false flag event, and who is really directing ISIS
are answered by Webster Tarpley. Is Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan the
leader of Daesh? Has the CIA and the US government been using ISIS as an extension
of the military in Iraq and Syria? We look at the ‘false war’ against ISIS, the truth about
Obama ‘the Muslim,’ and take a closer look at Gen. Petraeus and Gen. Allen’s involvement
in the region in this Buzzsaw interview, hosted by Sean Stone.


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WikiLeaks reveals KSA, Turkey, Qatar secret anti-Syria plot

Mon Jun 29, 2015

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/06/29/418008/WikiLeaks-Julian-Assange-Rossiya1-Saudi-Arabia-QAtar-Turkey-Syria-US

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US sends more weapons to militants in Syria: Report

By David Icke on 17th November 2015

The US military has reportedly delivered a new consignment of weapons and
ammunition to a group of militants fighting against the Syrian government.

Read more...
http://presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/16/437808/US-weapons-militants-Syria

Iloveyou
22nd November 2015, 00:12
About the PKK:

http://www.france24.com/en/20151113-video-reporter-pkk-kurdistan-iraq-turkey-kurds-ergodan-islamic-state
FRANCE 24 brings you a rare look inside the PKK, the Kurdistan Workers' Party, in the midst of fighting a guerrilla war against the Turkish army and the Islamic State group.

Here's an article with additional information about Kurdish guerrilla groups known as the Kurdistan Worker’s Party (PKK), People’s Protection Units (YPG), and Women’s Protection Units (YPJ).
Like the PKK, the YPG is a guerrilla force of men and women fighting alongside one another and who are influenced by the teachings of Abdullah Öcalan. There is also a branch called the Women’s Protection Units (YPJ), which is an all-female wing that focuses on women’s issues. With the Islamic State’s reputation for mass female enslavement and rape, both YPJ and YPG often collaborate in battles and prove to be formidable.

Joseph Anthony Lawrence, best known as Joey L., is a Canadian-born photographer and director based in Brooklyn, New York. He traveled to the Kurdish regions of Iraq and Syria to document the volunteer fighters of the PKK and YPG. The new series „Guerrilla Fighters of Kurdistan“ highlights the men and women on the frontline of the ongoing conflict with ISIS. His report is from June 2015.

edit: it's a 30 min. video plus transcription

http://www.joeyl.com/blog/all/post/guerrilla-fighters-of-kurdistan

Cidersomerset
22nd November 2015, 00:58
I saw the full doc a few weeks ago and this clip shows one way the elites stay ahead....

'Elite Insider trading'...........

The Secret Power of Queen Elizabeth II Revealed

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Published on 10 Nov 2015

Queen Elizabeth II is frequently misunderstood as being a ceremonial leader
without real influence over politics or policy, but the quietly yielded power of
the royal family is explained by Chris Everard. What lies behind the walls of
Buckingham Palace? The coterie of aides and ministerial secrets that get back
channelled through the royals is laid bare in this highlight from the Buzzsaw
interview, hosted by Sean Stone.
Watch the full Buzzsaw interview here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVpmB...

Frenchy
22nd November 2015, 01:37
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=31936&cid=1&stc=1[QUOTE=avid;1021789]I also watch a mixture of alternative tv online news channels, to counterbalance the mainstream mind-control. I really love the rt documentaries, covering loads of unreported cultures. Not to take every piece of news as 'given', it would seem RT has the edge on what is 'really' going on. At the moment....

I'd like to bring UKC to ppl's qttention, for those who search well-researched, alt media Truth..... greetings all...

In the great scheme of things, and having watched/listened to many hours of opinions, logistics and searched for thousands of non-existant witness images,