Hitler and the Jewish holocaust - what's the reality?

[Bubu]

I have learned and most of us on Avalon, that anything popular in the mainstream should be treated with extreme caution. Most of them are toxic. Perhaps the more popular the more toxic. One of the very popular in the mainstream is the holocaust. That Hitler is evil and that six million Jew died because of his hatred. Here are some articles that say otherwise. This thread is made to come up with the truth. your contribution is appreciated

http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=572

"Jewish propagandists would have us believe that Hitler’s unfavorable attitude toward Jewry was based solely on a “racial” hostility between Aryans and the Jewish people.

But as we examine Hitler’s early views regarding the Jewish Question, we do not find a predominantly racial line of disputation, but rather, a social line of argumentation.

Although the future Führer did identify Jewry as having a “racial character” formed by centuries of Jewish insulation within their host nations, he did not ground his opposition on genetic predetermination. Thus, the accusation that Hitler was a “racist” is a Jewish lie.

Beginning with a letter written in 1919 in reply to an inquirer on the subject of Jewry’s influence in the Weimar Republic, Hitler stressed the need for a rational basis for anti-Semitism that would oppose the ethos and actions of Jewry:

“Anti-Semitism as a political movement cannot be defined by emotional impulses but by recognition of the facts. The facts are these: First, Jewry is absolutely a race and not a religious association.

Jews never designate themselves as Jewish Germans, Jewish Poles, or Jewish Americans - but always as German, Polish, or American Jews.

Through thousands of years of the closest kind of inbreeding, Jews have maintained their peculiarities far more distinctly than many of the peoples among whom they have lived.

Thus there lives amongst us an alien race that neither wishes to neither sacrifice its racial character nor deny its feeling, thinking, and striving. Nevertheless, it possesses all the political rights we do.

If the ethos of the Jews is revealed in the purely material realm, it is even clearer in their thinking and striving. In their dance around the golden calf the value of the individual is no longer decided by his character but by the size of his fortune.

The loftiness of a nation is no longer to be measured by the sum of its moral and spiritual powers, but rather by the wealth of its material possessions.

This thinking and striving after money and power, and the feelings that go along with it, serve the purposes of the Jew who is unscrupulous in the choice of methods and pitiless in their employment.

His power is the power of money, which multiplies in his hands through interest, and which forces peoples under the most dangerous of yokes. Its golden glitter, so attractive in the beginning, conceals the ultimately tragic consequences.

Everything men strive after as a higher goal, be it religion, socialism, democracy, is to the Jew only means to an end, the way to satisfy his lust for gold and domination.

In his effects and consequences he is like a racial cancer of the nations.

Thus, an anti-Semitism based purely on emotional grounds will find its ultimate expression in the form of the pogrom.

But an anti-Semitism based on reason must lead to a systematic legal elimination of the privileges of the Jews. The ultimate objective of such legislation must, however, be the irrevocable removal of the Jews from civil and cultural influence."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1194194/Has-historian-finally-real-reason-Hitlers-obsessive-hatred-Jews.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8

[Snoweagle]

This might help discernment.
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[ghostrider]

Hitler wasn't even a German, he was half Austrian/Jew ... He was corrupted by evil ETs , the same ones that use religion to control humanity...

[TargeT]

I have learned and most of us on Avalon, that anything popular in the mainstream should be treated with extreme caution. Most of them are toxic. Perhaps the more popular the more toxic.

Quote of the day!

LOTS of good threads on this topic here on PA already, I think one has like 30 pages on it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83362-On-the-death-toll-of-the-Jewish-Holocaust&highlight=hitler+jews+holocaust

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77625-Video-Notes-Auschwitz----The-Surprising-Hidden-Truth

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79340-Seventieth-Anniversary-of-the-Liberation-of-Auschwitz&highlight=hitler+jews+holocaust

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?70201-Adolf-Hitler-The-Greatest-Story-NEVER-Told&highlight=hitler+jews+holocaust

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?41199-75-or-more-of-the-Jews-who-died-in-the-holocaust-were-killed-by-Stalin-not-Hitler&highlight=hitler+jews+holocaust

This one is 42 pages...
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12633-A-look-beneath-the-Holocaust-Propaganda-...&highlight=hitler+jews+holocaust

[Andrew]

Hitler wasn't even a German, he was half Austrian/Jew ... He was corrupted by evil ETs , the same ones that use religion to control humanity...

Complete speculation(except Austrian part) with no proof whats so ever to back it up.

Can you specify on Hitlers corruption exactly?

Because I dont see whats hard to understand with Germans wanting to take there country back and have it run by Germans living in Germany(or should I say nordics?). Or that the surrounding countries uniting with Germany was a problem for peoples morals?

Because really Germany and Austria is like Kansas and Oklahoma... there's a line between the two but same people with slightly different accents.

People just repeat the same old stuff which is purely misdirection. It's like that silly nursery ryhme they still teach Children today that Hitler has only got one ball, the other is in the Albert Hall, Goebbells too blah blah no truth in it, just there to belittle them, so people take no notice.

I went to a museum and there was a part with some WW2 memorabilia and next to the German stuff was a little handwritten note with that silly poem next to it. So basically anyone looking had to be reminded "You can look at the artifacts, but remember theyre idiots with no balls"

Consider this guys... there is no rules in WAR.
Warcrimes is just a made up thing for the victors, so they can finish the job when its over.

[TrumanCash]

... He was corrupted by evil ETs , the same ones that use religion to control humanity...

In the chapter "The Nazi Connection" in THE EYE OF RA (page 92 of the PDF linked below) I gave some of the details of my life and abductions as a Luftwaffe officer and pilot. It is highly likely that Hitler was programmed by Grays as we had an official meeting with them in 1938 and I was programmed while "touring" their ship at a German airfield. BTW, the Mantids were also involved with the Nazis. And, of course, Reptilians were also in there programming war.

I also mentioned briefly in THE EYE OF RA my visit to Auschwitz wherein I was shown a large dozed ditch filled with Jews while another officer gloated about exterminating them all. Although I was absolutely repulsed by what I saw with my own eyes I had to suppress my feelings of horror because I knew that I could also wind up in that ditch if I showed sympathy for the Jewish people in Germany.

Yes, the Jewish "holocaust" was as real as the holocaust of native Americans.

What I did not write in THE EYE OF RA was my other contacts/associations with Hitler. I knew him personally and he was a mad man. If you want to know what he was like, just watch the movie "Downfall". Here is one of the best scenes in that movie that depicted Hitler as he really was (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7PmzdINGZk). This scene is sometimes used as "Hitler reacts" video where anyone can plug in their own subtitles. The actor, Bruno Ganz, the first German to portray Hitler in a movie, got Hitler down to a T. His performance is astounding to me.

It is also important to mention that Hitler did not just kill Jews--He killed Americans, Brits, Russians and even Nazis who were loyal to him (or not so loyal). He was indeed a sociopath. It is also important to mention the role that the Rockefellers and other elitists played in promoting the idea of eugenics as well as the fact that the Rockefellers were partners with IG Farben that ran many (if not most) of the slave labor death camps.

Oh, and by the way, what really happened in the bunker was not accurately portrayed in the movie. I know because I was there in the bunker at the end. There was a huge cover-up of what really happened. I can tell you without any reservations that Hitler did not commit suicide and he did not escape to South America (unless it was a clone of the Grays). I am mentioning this because the Grays even cloned me (and my second wife) this lifetime. The history of this planet is one big cover-up--"all the world is a stage"--and the "man behind the curtain" are the ETs that are running "the show".

TLC

[moekatz]

Oh please let us not divert our energy on this topic. It might be wise to distinguish between Zionism and Judaism. If we are looking for evil and who to blame, we need to look no further then Conrad's Heart of Darkness, a small book but a rare observation, in novel form,of humanity.

[TargeT]

Oh please let us not divert our energy on this topic.

Nothing is above question. However, if you feel uncomfortable questioning something it probably should be questioned most.

a lot hinges on the "victim-hood" of "Israel" and it all is based on the holocaust... just due to that alone I think the topic deserves attention.

[Chester]

I read the article posted by the OP.

I replaced the word "Jew" with a different word that did not point to anything hinting of race or religion.

With that word replacement, these early thoughts of Hitler were quite interesting....

I won't type what word I used as perhaps others may try this same experiment where they can derive their own word.

[ghostrider]

Hitler was corrupted by a splinter group of the plejaren... He was supposed to be good and those maniacs corrupted him... The ancestors of the Plejaren played a major role in every aspect of earth history... Hell , Merlin's girlfriend was a plejaren woman who built him a ray sword which he gave to King Arthur... Earth has been in the middle of one ET races family feud... Every time they try and help it backfires on them , nowadays they hide...

[ghostrider]

Andrew my proof about Hitler's nationality is the words of semjase the plejaren woman meeting with Edward Meier since 1075 ...they knew him well and as I stated before, he was to be used for the betterment of humanity but, was corrupted by a rogue element of their race- who in ancient times called themselves the sons of heaven... The plejaren fought these outlaws until around 1982 , they were captured and deported to a distant world... Things on earth began to get better and technology took a giant leap forward with these maniacs out of our hair finally... Ppl

[Andrew]

Andrew my proof about Hitler's nationality is the words of semjase the plejaren woman meeting with Edward Meier since 1075 ...they knew him well and as I stated before, he was to be used for the betterment of humanity but, was corrupted by a rogue element of their race- who in ancient times called themselves the sons of heaven... The plejaren fought these outlaws until around 1982 , they were captured and deported to a distant world... Things on earth began to get better and technology took a giant leap forward with these maniacs out of our hair finally... Ppl

It's all a little sketchy, but I see what you mean, if Hitler wasn't totally war mad they would of just defended up Germany/Austria and parts of Poland, but instead went all out on the offensive to grab Europe entirely and Russia aswell and if successful who knows where else. Under a dictatorship.

[Jay Freeman]

This documentary may add some insight into the topic. it is based upon the book Hellstorm: The Death of Nazi Germany, by Tom Goodrich.

http://www.ancreport.com/documentary/hellstorm-2/

It was blocked on YouTube in certain countries, most likely for political, rather than copyright issues.

Here is an interview with the author: http://www.ancreport.com/podcast/tom-goodrich-discusses-his-book-hellstorm-the-destruction-of-the-german-people/

Warning: This is VERY hard to watch. It is mind-boggling to know that there are humans who are so cold, heartless and cruel. Personally, I have no words for it. It is extremely difficult to comprehend.

[kfm27917]

read "the transfer agreement" which shines a different angle on the subject....
free download at
https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-transfer-agreement-e194714087.html

[Jaak]

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[Jaak]

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[shaberon]

Shoah Business.

Elie Wiesel is fiction?

Maybe a lot of things have been fabricated here?

The more accurate thing to say is that Jews began to be personally targeted perhaps around 1943, when the strategy of Zionism entered the picture. Hitler believed Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which was most likely crafted by the Okhrana to infuriate the Germans and start problems. His basic response was, no, you can't start Israel.

Santa Claus was based on a real person just like the Holocaust. Lo and behold they even work similarly.

[Jaak]

Holohoax has become the foundation of zionism and sadly many believe it without doing their own research on that matter. I will add some stuff here ,maybe helps some people see through the lies of zionists.

Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves
A detailed forensic examination of the site of the wartime Treblinka camp, using sophisticated electronic ground radar, has found no evidence of mass graves there.

For six days in October 1999, an Australian team headed by Richard Krege, a qualified electronics engineer, carried out an examination of the soil at the site of the former Treblinka II camp in Poland, where, Holocaust historians say, more than half a million Jews were put to death in gas chambers and then buried in mass graves.

According to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust (1997), for example, “a total of 870,000 people” were killed and buried at Treblinka between July 1942 and April 1943. Then, between April and July 1943, the hundreds of thousands of corpses were allegedly dug up and burned in batches of 2,000 or 2,500 on large grids made of railway ties.

Krege’s team used an $80,000 Ground Penetration Radar (GPR) device, which sends out vertical radar signals that are visible on a computer monitor. GPR detects any large-scale disturbances in the soil structure to a normal effective depth of four or five meters, and sometimes up to ten meters. (GPR devices are routinely used around the world by geologists, archeologists, and police.) In its Treblinka investigation, Krege’s team also carried out visual soil inspections, and used an auger to take numerous soil core samples.

The team carefully examined the entire Treblinka II site, especially the alleged “mass graves” portion, and carried out control examinations of the surrounding area. They found no soil disturbance consistent with the burial of hundreds of thousands of bodies, or even evidence that the ground had ever been disturbed. In addition, Krege and his team found no evidence of individual graves, bone remains, human ashes, or wood ashes.

“From these scans we could clearly identify the largely undisturbed horizontal stratigraphic layering, better known as horizons, of the soil under the camp site,” says the 30-year old Krege, who lives in Canberra. “We know from scans of grave sites, and other sites with known soil disturbances, such as quarries, when this natural layering is massively disrupted or missing altogether.” Because normal geological processes are very slow acting, disruption of the soil structure would have been detectable even after 60 years, Krege noted.

While his initial investigation suggests that there were never any mass graves at the Treblinka camp site, Krege believes that further work is still called for.

“Historians say that the bodies were exhumed and cremated toward the end of the Treblinka camp’s use in 1943, but we found no indication that any mass graves ever existed,” he says. “Personally, I don’t think there was an extermination camp there at all.”

Krege is preparing a detailed report on his Treblinka investigation. He says that he would welcome the formation, possibly under United Nations auspices, of an international team of neutral, qualified specialists, to carry out similar investigations at the sites of all the wartime German camps.

Krege and his team are associated with, and funded by, the Adelaide Institute, a south Australia revisionist “think tank.” Its director, Dr. Fredrick Töben, was jailed in Germany for seven months in 1999 for disputing Holocaust extermination claims.
https://ihr.org/journal/v19n3p20_radar.html
Strange,didnt find any mention of this in wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treblinka_extermination_camp
People who push holohoax narrative are making billions and those who see through that bull**** get thrown in jail...

[Jaak]

From the book ¨Archidects of deception¨ by J.Lina
Holocaust Hysteria
In March 1916, The Daily Telegraph reported that Austrians and Bulgarians had gassed 700 000 Serbs. After the war, no one believed this story anymore. It was admitted to be just war propaganda.
The American Hebrew on 31 October 1919 published a propaganda article under the
headline "The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!" In the article, it was claimed that during the world war because of epidemics, starvation and "holocaust", six million Jews might have succumbed. Later everything turned out to be war propaganda. This information was being spread during and just after the First World War.
According to Ben Weintraub, the figure six million has a great cabbalistic significance, which is why it is important to maintain it whether it is correct or not ("The Holocaust Dogma of Judaism: Keystone of the New World Order", Toronto, 1995, p. 12).
In 1933, there were 5.6 million Jews in those areas later to be controlled by Germany (The New York Times, 11 January 1945).
Orthodox Jews in their holy book the Talmud have grossly slandered the Romans by claiming that Emperor Vespasian "in the town of Bethar killed four hundred thousand myriads innocent Jews". A quite impossible figure since a myriad supposedly was ten
thousand! In another place in the Talmud (Gittin 58a, p. 269), it is stated: "Sixteen million Israelite school children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Roman soldiers in Bethar."
Almost everyone has accepted the official version of what happened during the reign of national socialism. As the reader realizes, great many of such stories have proved to be myths. High-ranking masonic politicians have made credible gross forgeries, especially that of the attempt to systematically exterminate all European Jews.
One of the purposes of this myth was to make all criticism of the
Jews impossible in the future. There were to be automatic compassion with the Jewish people, so as to facilitate for Jewish extremists to commit all the crimes they wished.
The Israeli magazine News from Within (No. 5, May 1995) stated that the Zionists have used the suffering of the Jewish people to attain certain political goals. Therefore the facts have been manipulated and they have refused to help their own people.
Michael Warschawski said the following in the magazine: "The feeling of being the eternal victim has made it possible to a large degree to suppress all feelings of empathy for the suffering of others and all feelings of guilt for the victims of the injustices committed by the state of Israel."
Moshe Zuckerman revealed in the same magazine that Israel is using the holocaust to brainwash the new generation.
School children in Holland have become so effectively indoctrinated by the holocaust propaganda that they are convinced that there no longer are any Jews in the world. This was told by a spokesman for the Jewish Museum in Amsterdam in June 2000.
The political editor of the Swedish Daily Dagens Nyheter, Svante Nycander, wrote the following on 18 April 1992: "How then can a reasonably knowledgeable person be sure that the Holocaust really took place? ...If only one version of a historic event is allowed, people have no strong reason to believe in its truth. A claim requiring the protection of the law, one would suspect being a myth."

The holocaust during the Second World War is still "a proven fact", even though the absurd witness accounts contradict natural laws and human logic.
There are, however, those that question the official version.
The first proponent of Holocaust doubter was Alexander Radcliffe, a Scottish politician who claimed in late 1945 in his magazine Vanguard, that the holocaust was a Jewish invention. This statement was taken from The Truth About the Jews, a pamphlet Radcliffe had published earlier in which he also speculated that the British government was actually controlled by the Jews.
In 1947, the French writer Maurice Bardeche claimed in his second book, "Nuremberg or the Promised Land" that at least part of the evidence surrounding the concentration camps had been falsified and that the deaths of those interred there were mainly due to starvation and disease. Bardeche was also the first to contend that no Jews were gassed, since the so-called gas chambers were used for disinfections.
The Swiss Paul Rassinier was the next important dissident to arise.
Rassinier was himself a concentration camp survivor. He was arrested by the Gestapo in 1943 for his activities with the resistance (which
included smuggling Jews into Switzerland) and spent the remainder of the war in Buchenwald and Dora. In 1948, Rassinier published "Crossing the Line", which was the first in a series of books intending to show that the claims of most concentration camp survivors were exaggerated, and that the inmates entrusted with running the camps were the real culprits of the camp horrors, not the SS.
In his book "The Drama of European Jewry" (1964), Rassinier argued that the
claim that gas chambers were used to kill Jews was nothing more than an invention created to serve the Zionist government of Israel.
Though Rassinier died in 1967, his work was later collected and published posthumously in 1976 under the title "Debunking the Genocide Myth", bringing this French concentration camp survivor's theories to a new generation of doubters.

In May 1945, Austin J. App, a professor of English literature at the University of Scranton and LaSalle College in Missouri, claimed that the atrocities that took place in the concentration camps were legally justified in accordance with the rules of warfare.
In 1946, App used statistics to show that six million Jewish deaths at the hands of the nazis were quite impossible. By 1949, in a letter to Time Magazine, App had calculated the number of Jewish deaths at 1.5 million. In 1973, App published "The Six Million Swindle: Black-mailing the German People for Hard Marks with Fabricated
Corpses", where he laid out his eight "incontrovertible assertions" that demonstrate that the figure of six million Jewish deaths is a gross exaggeration.
The German judge Wilhelm Staglich revealed the bluff in his book
"The Auschwitz Myth" / "Der Auschwitz-Mythos" (Indiana, 1984).
As a result he had his pension reduced and lost his doctoral degree. The authorities referred to a law of repealing academic titles from 1939 - a law signed by Adolf Hitler himself!
"Dissecting the Holocaust: The Growing Critique of 'Truth' and 'Memory'" (Capshaw, Alabama, 2000), edited by the chemical engineer Ernst Gauss, contains the results of chemical analyses making it perfectly clear that all claims of gas chambers for the mass killing of people in concentration camps is total nonsense. The book is banned in Germany.
Norman C. Finkelstein, professor at City University of New York
and the son of two Jewish survivors from the Warsaw ghetto and concentration camps, has written "The Holocaust Industry" (London, 2000), where he claims that all this commotion leads to antiSemitism and benefits neo-nazis and revisionists.
The American Jew David Cole exposed the holocaust hoax in Auschwitz, which he visited in September 1992. Cole talked to the head of the museum Dr Francizek Piper and reached the conclusion that it was all fiction. His documentaries are very thought provoking.
Cole felt that lies only harm the liars. Extremist Jews started to threaten him and he disappeared without trace.

The French Jew Jean-Gabriel Cohn-Bendit in 1991 expressed his
doubts in an essay about the gas chamber stories. He was immediately the subject of slander.
Ian J. Kagedan, spokesman for the Canadian B'nai B'rith lodge, wrote in The Toronto Star on 26 November 1991: "The Holocaust is to be the Keystone, or fundamental principle, of the New World Order."
The 66-year old French civil engineer Henri Roques in May 1986 received the highest grade on his doctoral thesis at the University of Nantes in Brittany. He claimed that gas chambers did not occur in the German concentration camps.
According to him, the gas chambers is a myth.
Roques had worked on the thesis for 20 years and read practically everything written about Hitler's concentration camps. After interference from Jewish organizations, Roques subsequently lost his degree.
The Polish Professor of History, Dariusz Ratajczak, in 1999 wrote in his book "Dangerous Topics" that the official number of Jewish victims in the Nazi concentration camps is grossly exaggerated. He maintained that the eyewitness accounts lack credibility and that gassing of Jews never took place. Ratajczak said that the "gas chambers" shown to the public were never used as such. He was
sacked from his post at the University of Opole and banned from teaching anywhere in Poland for three years.
President Eisenhower admitted that the Nazi concentration camps were "prisons for political prisoners".
When the Jewish organizations in the United States, Great Britain and other countries in 1933 started a boycott that inflicted enormous economic damage on Germany, Hitler began to make anti-Jewish laws. The Jews were considered a security risk. The Zionists wished to provoke Hitler to impose harsher anti-Jewish measures in order to hasten Jewish emigration to Palestine. Since 1933 the Jews were intensively persecuted and driven into exile.
Those that in 1941 and later on were still living in the German sphere of interest, were mostly sent to work camps, put together in ghettos and deported to Russia, whereby they lost their possessions and many families were split up. During the military campaign in the east, German troops, so-called Einsatzgruppen, murdered many Jews.
But it is not true that there was a plan to physically annihilate all Jews and that there were gas chambers for killing people in several concentration camps.
Also the number of victims has been exaggerated.
The war offered the nazis an opportunity to force trough "the final solution of the Jewish question". Hermann Goring on 31 July 1941 wrote to Reinhard Heydrich about his intentions: "As a supplement to the task, which was entrusted to you in the decree dated 24 January 1939, to solve the Jewish question by emigration and evacuation in the most favourable way possible, given present conditions, I herewith
commission you to carry out all necessary preparations with regard to organizational, substantive, and financial viewpoints for a total solution of the Jewish question in the German sphere of influence in Europe...
Further I commission you to promptly present a draught concerning the practical preparations for the final solution of the Jewish question." (Raul
Hilberg, "The Extermination of the European Jews" / "Die Vernichtung der europaischen Juden", Fischer Taschenbuch Verlag, 1990, p.
420)
The Wannsee Conference in Berlin on 20 January 1942 that according to the myth, decided to exterminate the Jews was actually about relocating them, which also is clearly evident from the proceedings of the meeting.
We have all got so used to these lies in connection with the holocaust hysteria that we have trouble accepting the facts of the real circumstances.
We ought to ask ourselves how anyone can be so cruel as to lie about the holocaust. Apparently this has been the case. A large amount of hard facts will easily strike down the lies behind he holocaust myth.
During the war there were 14 large and several smaller concentration camps. In addition to that there were 500 so-called labour camps each having from a few hundred to more than 1000 prisoners.
The Austrian camp Mauthausen was notorious for its inhumanity.
There were strict rules for SS officials in charge. Karl Koch, commandant in Buchenwald, was shot for corruption and murder. Hermann Florstedt, the ill-reputed commandant in Majdanek, was hanged before the assembled prisoners.
On 4 June 1937, SS Gruppenfiihrer Theodor Eicke reported in an
internal memorandum that SS Oberscharfiihrer Zeidler had sadistically assaulted an inmate at the concentration camp Sachsenhausen.
As a warning to other camp guards, he was degraded, discharged from the SS and turned over to the authorities. Eicke pointed out that assaulting inmates was not tolerated.
Between 1 July 1942 and 30 June 1943, 110 812 concentration
camps inmates died, which is showed by statistics collected by Waffen-SS General Oswald Pohl for Heinrich Himmler. In August 1943, the total amount of camp prisoners was 224 000, and one year later there were 524 000.
The Swiss educator Jurgen Graf was struck by the many absurdities
in the official version of "the holocaust". Therefore he compiled all available material into a book, "The Holocaust on Trial: Eyewitness Accounts versus Natural Laws" ("Der Holocaust auf dem Priifstand: Augenzeugenberichte versus Naturgesetze"). The book is very convincing in its factuality.
He states: «Apart from the last chaotic months of the war, the worst
period in the camps was the summer and autumn of 1942. During these few months more than 300 people died in Auschwitz everyday in typhoid fever. The disease also claimed its victims among the SS guards.
Within the Auschwitz complexes most deaths occurred in Birkenau, three kilometres to the west of the main camp, which had became a hospital camp.
During certain periods more people died in Birkenau than in all other camps together. This "death camp" where probably 60 000 to 80 000 prisoners succumbed, mostly to disease (there were also executions and
murder!), later became the legendary "extermination camp", where according to "historians" between one and four million people were murdered.

To burn the corpses of victims of disease, there had to be crematoria,
and to store the bodies before cremation there had to be morgues and specially constructed cellars, which legend later turned into "gas chambers".
Even the shower rooms became, at least partly, "gas chambers".
And the division of the prisoners into able-bodied and non able-bodied became "the selection for the gas chambers". Thus was born the most fateful lie of our century, the Auschwitz lie.»
There are historical parallels concerning the death rate at similar detention camps. At the Union prison camps Douglas and Rock Island during the American Civil War, the monthly death toll was 2-4 percent, and in the Confederate prison camp at Andersonville 13 000 of 52 000 captured Union soldiers died.
During the Boer War the British incarcerated roughly 120 000 civilian Boers as well as tens of thousands native Africans, out of which every sixth died.
Neither the prisoners of war in the American Civil War nor the ones of the Boer
War were deliberately killed; almost all died of epidemics.
The death toll can be compared to that of Dachau (84 % survived) and Buchenwald (86 % survived).
How can anyone trust the Zionists, when they already during the First World War lied about this matter? The Zionist propaganda after the First World War claimed that six million Jews had died as a result of famine, epidemics and holocaust.
Then shortly after the Second World War there appeared different
versions of the holocaust. Which of these is one supposed to believe?
Stefan Szende (Ph. D.), a Swedish Jew of Hungarian descent, wrote in his book "The Promise Hitler Kept" (New York, 1945), about Belzec concentration camp:
"The trains coming into Belzec loaded with Jews were driven into a
tunnel in the underground premises of the execution building. There the
Jews descended and had to leave their belongings... Every day trains full
of Jews arrived from Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Belgium, Holland,
France, and the Balkans... They were brought into huge halls capable of holding several thousand people. These rooms had no windows, were completely made of metal and had floors that could be lowered.
The floors of these halls, with thousands of Jews, sank into a water basin, which lay beneath - but only far enough so that the people were not entirely under water. When all the Jews on the metal plate were in the water to over their hips, electrical current was sent through the water.
After a few moments, all the Jews, thousands at once, were dead.
Then the metal plate was raised out of the water. On it lay the corpses of the murdered victims. Another shock of electrical current was sent through, and the metal plate became a crematorium oven, white hot, until all the bodies were burnt to ashes.
Huge cranes again lifted the floor and emptied the ashes. The smoke
was led out through large factory chimneys.
That was the whole procedure. As soon as it was completed, it could
start up again. New batches of Jews were constantly being driven into the tunnels. The individual trains brought between 3000 and 5000 Jews at a
time, and there were days on which the Belzec line saw between twenty
and thirty such trains arrive.
Modern technology triumphed in the Nazi system. The problem of how
to exterminate millions of people was solved."
Szende's book was recalled and destroyed, when later the gas chamber version was chosen. Facts about extermination of the Jews was published as early as 1942 in the Zionist-controlled newspaper like The New York Times. The main purpose of this horror propaganda was to emphasize the necessity of establishing a Jewish homeland.
The American historian Arthur R. Butz examines in his book "The Hoax of the Twentieth Century " (Ladbroke, 1976) how the fraud of the century originated. His conclusion: "The gas chambers are postwar fantasies."
In The New York Times various extermination methods, besides the gas chambers, were described. On 7 February 1942, there were tales about "blood poisoning stations" in occupied Poland, and on 30 June 1942 about "a shooting house", where thousands of Jews were shot every day. These versions were abandoned already before the end of the war. Then came the steam death chambers that even turned up at the Nuremberg trials.

Here are a few more examples: The Jews were killed in electric
ovens... The Jews were murdered with heavy current in electric showers and then turned into soap. This version is from Simon Wiesenthal... The Jews were killed with quick lime and diesel fumes...
At the Belzec trial in 1965 a German court settled for the version where the Jews were killed with Zyklon B, which through a pipe system was brought into the shower rooms. The court thought that after a few weeks one switched to diesel fumes.
Apparently it took the stupid SS men a couple of weeks to realize that it was impossible to get the zyklon grains into the pipes. Besides, the SS did the reverse in other camps and went from diesel fuels to Zyklon B, all according to the holocaust hysterics...
There is, however, no proof for the murder of 600 000 Jews in Belzec - not a single German document. No mass graves have been found, nor the ashes after 600 000 murdered and burned to ashes.
The gas chambers are nowhere to be found.
In January 1995, the French newsmagazine L'Express reported that Auschwitz staff now admitted that the gas chamber known as Krema I had been erected in 1948 by the Polish communist government for benefit of the foreign tourists.
Fred Leuchter had already revealed the deception in 1988.
There is evidence that all the gas chambers were built after the
Second World War by Soviet and American soldiers as well. On the aerial photographs taken by American reconnaissance planes during the war, no such buildings can be seen. Also in Poland it has been admitted that the gas chambers were built after the war.
The allied troops found in Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, and Dachau in addition to piles of dead bodies and walking skeletons, tens of thousands of seemingly healthy and well-nourished prisoners, of which hardly ever any pictures have been shown. On the other hand, there are plenty of forged photographs, among those paintings presented as photographs.
At the University of Lund, Sweden, 564 eye-witness accounts have
been collected from survivors from the Nazi concentration camps.
A Polish student, who was born in 1924, describes the heavy labour and
maltreatment from April 1945, when he spent ten days in Bergen Belsen. The student stated: "What first befell upon us was the piles of dead bodies lying everywhere. They were victims of a typhoid epidemic. It was horrible to drag the bodies to huge dikes used as mass graves." (Goteborgs-Posten, 30 July 2000)
There was not a word of any gas chambers or any holocaust. These original testimonies are therefore of utmost importance.
In 1990, the Soviet Union made the Auschwitz death lists available to the International Red Cross. They cover the period from August 1941 to December 1943 and contain 66 000 names. The number of victims of typhoid epidemics, measles, old age, and shootings during the years 1935-45 in Auschwitz amounted to 73 137.
Of these 38 031 were Jews. The death rate was at its peak in 1942 and 1943.
From 1935 to 1945, a total of 403 713 people died in the Nazi concentration camps {The New York Times, 3 March 1991).
Less than half were Jews, since these in many camps only constituted a small minority (in Auschwitz the Jewish part of the prisoners was towards the end almost 80 per cent).
West German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer stated in 1953 that during the Second World War 170 000 Jews succumbed. This information was given by the West German government's Press and Information Bureau (Presse- und Informationsamt aer Bundesregierung).
It is true that commissars, that is communist political propaganda officers, often were liquidated immediately after their capture. Most of these commissars were Jews. The Jews were also heavily represented in the partisan movement, which is evident from Soviet sources.
Several Jews were shot that were neither commissars, partisans nor hostages. They were shot "just to be sure". For these mass murders there is no excuse - but it does not justify all the lies of mass extermination in gas chambers.
The Allies wished to prevent the inhumanity of the Jewish commissars in the Soviet concentration camps and the Allies own crimes against civilian Germans, being brought up at Nuremberg.
After the war 12 to 14 million Germans were deliberately killed. Many of them
died in various camps after the war. The Soviet Union in 1939 took back the territory taken by Poland 20 years earlier. After the Second World War, the Soviet Union allowed the Poles to cut off a fifth of original German territory, totally 100 000 square kilometres. 16 million Germans were to be exterminated or banished. Two million Germans were murdered in pogroms and concentration camps or died of
cold and deprivation during the banishment. Soviet troops even killed the prisoners in the German camps, according to the French historian Jacques de Launay ("Le Grand Debacle", Paris, 1985) .

The Soviet soldiers did not differentiate between Germans and Czechs at the "liberation" of Czechoslovakia. At the same time the red Czechs took the opportunity to kill almost 40 000 civilian Germans in actions of revenge between 8 and 25 may 1945. The mob also took part in the slaughter.
The Americans and the French deliberately let over a million German prisoners of war die of starvation and diseases. Many were executed without due process. Hundreds of thousands of Germans were killed by communist mobs shortly after the war. At least one hundred thousand nationalist French were killed by communists after the war. No one has condemned this mass murder. During the years
1945-1950 as many as nine million Germans died because of the
Morgenthau Plan, which prescribed a systematic reduction of German industrial production capacity. It was a planned mass death. Two high-ranking freemasons, Truman and Morgenthau, bear the responsibility. This was a high price for the Germans to pay, because Jewish Nazi leaders let 170 000 other Jews die during the war in order to frighten the rest to emigrate to Palestine.
This plan was approved by Roosevelt and Churchill at their meeting in Quebec, Canada, in August 1943. The masonic leaders counted on that the implementation of the Morgenthau Plan would have meant that between 20 and 30 million Germans died.
In the 1255 communist concentration camps in Poland, Jewish commissars ravaged like hysterical baboons: they tortured and murdered 80 000 ordinary Germans without remorse. The Jewish journalist John Sack described this in his book "An Eye for an Eye" (New York, 1993).
Some of these Jewish criminals were: Lola Potok, Itzak Klein, Moshe Grossman, Shlomo Singer, David Feuerstein, Aaron Lehrman, Efraim Lewin, Mordechai Kac, Nachum Solowitz, Schmuel Kleinhaut, and Schlomo Morel.
Woe unto the vanquished! The Allies knew what was going on but did not wish to interfere. Schlomo Morel alone during seven month tortured 2500 people to death, including old people and children. After the fall of communism, he managed to
escape Polish justice and flee to Israel .

As a counterweight the victorious powers invented a crime unique
in the history of mankind - "the holocaust", the systematic extermination of a whole people from infants to old grandmothers in gas chambers.
But this is physically impossible. No sane person would install a crematorium in the same building as a chamber, where people should be killed with an explosive gas. Zyklon B is not highly explosive, but because of the latent explosion risk from the zyklon-satiated bodies, such a procedure would have been suicidal insanity. The gas chamber would have been blown up and the whole camp gassed, including the
SS personnel.
In addition, the doors to all "gas chambers" open inwards, making it quite impossible for the special command units to enter these chambers full of dead bodies. According to witnesses they also smoked cigarettes in the midst of an explosive gas.
In Auschwitz-Birkenau the crematoria were on the floor above the alleged gas chambers. The only connection between floors was a single elevator. The elevator could take at most four bodies plus the conductor, who thus had to run five hundred times up and down between the gas chambers and the crematorium and without pause handle zyklon-infested bodies in an environment heavily dosed with
Zyklon B gas. It is claimed that about 2000 people were gassed at a time.
Zyklon (hydrogen cyanide) is a very poisonous gas that kills even in small amounts when inhaled but also at skin contact. It is claimed that special command units worked without gas mask or protective overalls. If so they would have died within a few minutes.
The cremation of a body takes in most modern crematoria one and a half hours and it was no faster in 1944. In six hours 15 ovens could burn only 60 bodies, 1940 out of 2000 would have been left over.
Modern crematoria can burn as many as 23 bodies per day and per
oven. In the coke-fuelled ovens in Birkenau the maximum daily capacity was according to experts (like Ivan Lagace, head of the crematorium in Calgary, Canada) five bodies per oven.
If the crematoria in Birkenau always functioned faultlessly (and we know from documents that that was not the case), it would have been possible to burn no more than 150 000 bodies. Where then were the other 850 000 bodies burned? Because of the oxygen shortage that will appear it is quite impossible to burn bodies in pits and in Birkenau especially difficult on account of the high groundwater level.
The holocaust hysterics do not want to know about the evacuations of Soviet Jews that took place after the German invasion and that is proved through Soviet files, and they deny the flight of the majority of Polish Jews to the Soviet Union.
All Jews that the Germans relocated to Russia and that remained there are counted as murdered. The victims of the holocaust also include those Jews that died during Stalin's deportations and those in Soviet labour camps, as well as Jewish Allied soldiers who died in battle or during the emigration to Palestine.
In January 1945, Auschwitz prisoner Elie Wiesel was afflicted by a bad foot and was unable to work. He received medial treatment while the Red Army quickly advanced.
The healthy prisoners were evacuated together with the retreating Germans, the sick could stay if they wished. Even though Elie Wiesel and his father were sick, they
voluntarily joined the Germans, who according to Wiesel even threw babies and pushed adult Jews into large fire pits.
Each and every one of the "survivors" claims that he made it through because of a miracle. They are, on the other hand, living proof that there never was any holocaust.
The German Federal Republic has paid out more than 120 billion DM to Israel and the Zionist organizations and to individual Jews.
Most of the money has been paid as fines for freely invented gas chambers to a state that at the time of the alleged genocide did not even exist. In "Das jiidische Paradox" (Frankfurt, 1988, p. 180) Nahum Goldmann writes: «l am going to tell you about two episodes that belong to the chapter "How to make millions by telling fairytales."...»
The international news agencies reported on 19 May 1997 that the Zionists in 1995 claimed that Jewish holocaust victims had 7 billion Swiss francs in accounts in various Swiss banks, which they now wanted compensation for. A thorough investigation showed, however, that this was an insolent bluff. In 1996, it was concluded that only eleven Jews that had perished in German camps had an account in Switzerland. In total they had managed to save 11 000 Swiss francs.
This is a typical example of chutzpah, Jewish impudence.
The Swedish economic historian Gunnar Adler-Karlsson wrote in his book "The Clash of the Super Brains" ("Superhjarnornas kamp", Stockholm, 1998, p. IV): "I am well aware that every criticism of the behaviour of Jewish organizations immediately leads to condemnation as an anti-Semite... Despite this risk, my fears are still deepened that Jewish demands for compensation of various kinds for that happened under Hitler will have the most horrible consequences for the Jews themselves
and not least for the existence of the State of Israel."
Jiirgen Graf wondered in his book: "What kind of democracy is it, where a hoax of this magnitude is kept alive for decades through primitive police state methods?"

What kind of historical facts need to be defended by the law?
Repressive measures in several European countries (Germany, Austria, Poland, Switzerland and France) and media censorship can merely postpone the revisionist victory but not stop it. More and more people are beginning to doubt the hysterical holocaust propaganda.
The gas chamber lies sooner or later are going to end up on the garbage dump of history.
There is no punishment for those doubting the number of victims of the Inquisition, or that the Americans landed on the moon.
If someone during the Middle Ages did not believe the Church lies of a flat Earth and later that the Sun was in orbit around the Earth, such a person was prosecuted and risked being burnt at the stake.
Historians no longer believe there were gas chambers at Dachau and Buchenwald. Soon they will not believe in the gas chambers in Auschwitz and Treblinka either.
How is it possible then that of the alleged murder of millions of people in gas chambers there is no proof except witness testimonies and admissions under torture by presumed perpetrators - not a single document, no bodies, no murder weapons, nothing?
According to the 1939 census, there were over 3 millions Jews in the Soviet Union. On 1 July 1990, The New York Post referring to Israeli experts noted that then, long after the beginning of the mass exodus, there still were over 5 million Jews in the Soviet Union.
Russia had as remembered taken in a great deal of the Polish Jews.
At the same time 600 000 Jews survived "the holocaust". How could 600 000 Jews survive German camps, where all the Jews without exception were to be exterminated?
The Jewish-Australian Professor W. D. Rubenstein wrote in September 1979: "If the Holocaust can be shown to be a 'Zionist myth', the strongest of all weapons in Israel's propaganda armoury collapses." ("The Holocaust: Let's Hear Both Sides", The Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust, Los Angeles, 1979)

In 1946, the Rockefeller Foundation funded the spreading of the faked version of the Second World War with 139 000 dollars.
Professor Harold Lasky of the London School of Economics was on the other hand quite frank when he in The New Statesman and Nation on 11 January 1942 admitted: "This war is in essence a gigantic revolution, whose earlier phases were the war of 1914, the Russian Revolution and other revolutions."
The Second World War was not the end of all wars - far from it.
After the war, between 1945 and 1985 there were 152 wars.
The Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. claims that at least 370 armed conflicts were fought between the years 1945 to 1976. In these wars an estimated 86 million people perished, far more than during the entire Second World War. The largest conflict was the Vietnam War. In 1999, there were 25 major wars going on and in 2000, 68 armed conflicts were registered. In 2002, there were 27 large wars. 50 000 people are now killed in a single year, ten times as
many (half a million) civilians perish in massacres, are blown up by
mines or starve to death because of war. What a wonderful world the
freemasons have built for us!

[shaberon]

That's very dense but it has things in common with several issues I have found.


To re-phrase a few key points, it starts around this Six Million number, which at first in the 1920s was said to be the number of Jews already killed. Then it is said to represent the region of German conquest by the NYT, but were there six million really?

So it is difficult for six million holocaust victims to be possible to begin with.

But you see the psychological precedent.


Now, almost every physical aspect of the supposed architecture of the thing is logistically impossible.

The mass graves, the burning piles, the gas chambers, none of that could have worked.

I. G. Farben produced Zyklon B as a de-lousing agent, because this was the most prevalent way of spreading diseases. The deteriorating conditions in those camps were mainly due to allied destruction of railroads.


The Nazis were heroes as a political party of the 1930s, villains for aggressive maneuvers next, and finally only really went after the Jews in the last two years of their existence, specifically because of Zionism.

It is very strange that all you really have to do is question some of the "eyewitness testimony" and try to make an objective picture of what happened, and you have to say it is at the very least exaggerated, in a way that has been used for political gain.

[Jaak]

Who has heard the story of Josef Ginsburg ? I doubt hollywood will make movies about this holocaust survivor...

"World War II was a Zionist plot to make way for the foundation of the Jewish State in Palestine."---Josef Burg

German-speaking Jewish author Josef Ginsburg - pen name 'Joseph G. Burg', born 1908 in Chernivtsi, Austria-Hungary (now Ukraine), & died 1990 in Munich, Germany - was a rabbi's son who became a fervent Communist. Like most Jews before 1940, Ginsburg was anti-Zionist, but all his life he continued to believe that Zionism & Israel were disasters for Jews.

During World War II, Germans sequestered Ginsburg in the open in Transnistria under great hardship. Freed by Soviet Union armies, Ginsburg joined advancing Soviet troops as part of official Soviet teams entering into & inspecting Nazi camps in Poland such as Auschwitz, Birkenau, Majdanek, Treblinka, & Sobibor, known today as the 'death camps'.

Technically himself a 'Holocaust survivor', Ginsburg wrote books saying the 'Holocaust' was a fraud.

West Germany's government continually attacked Ginsburg, confiscating & burning 7 of Ginsburg's 13 major books -- writings from 1962-89, the West German regime ice-cold to the irony of burning a Jew's books over a much longer period than Nazis themselves ever did. Ginsburg was attacked & beaten, apparently by other Jews, & Jews refused to bury him when he died.

Ginsburg's story is in process of being internet-scrubbed, close to being effectively 'erased' from English language web searches. Instead of countering Ginsburg's views with facts or argument, or saying he was stupid, or crazy, or deluded by his Communism or his perhaps fanatic anti-Zionism, the response to this Jewish writer & WW2 survivor was to burn his books & near-erase him from media & now the internet.

According to wikipedia he didnt write any books between the years of 1940-1980 which ofcourse aint true .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Burg_(writer)


The 1988 'Holocaust' Testimony Of Joseph Burg

The 'False News' Trial of Ernst Zündel -- 1988

Institute for Historical Review
Link: https://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/24burg.html

Joseph G. Burg was the twelfth witness called by the defense. He testified on Tuesday, March 29 and Wednesday, March 30, 1988.

For an eight or nine year period prior to 1981, Zündel had been in communication by letter and in visits with Joseph G. Burg, a Jewish author who had written several books on the Second World War. These books included ¨Guilt and Fate¨, ¨Scapegoats¨, ¨Zionist Nazi Censorship in the Federal Republic of Germany¨, ¨National Socialist Crimes of Bad Conscience by Germans Against Germans under Zionist Direction¨ and ¨Major Attacks of Zionists against Pope Pius XII and the German Governments¨. Burg had discussed these books with Zündel and believed the latter had received them. (25-6824, 6825, 6835, 26-6896, 6897)

In his books, Burg dealt with the subject of the alleged Nazi extermination camps. Burg had spoken to hundreds of people who had been in Auschwitz and had visited the camp in the fall of 1945. Burg had wanted to see the crematoria, the hospitals, and in particular, a large new bakery. He also wanted to find the gas chambers although at that time gassings were not yet in fashion. He did not find any gas chambers. Burg formed the opinion that there were no "extermination" camps at all, that gas chambers had never existed and that there had been no plan to exterminate the Jews of Europe. These opinions were published in his books and in his correspondence with Zündel. (25-6825 to 6838)

Burg also visited Majdanek three times. He did find gas chambers in Majdanek, but testified that they were disinfection gas chambers for liquidating lice and fleas: bugs which caused epidemics. The chambers were standard in each camp and had the German words "Attention! Poisonous Gas!" under a death skull. Zyklon B was the new formula used to disinfect the clothing. It destroyed the bugs but not the fabric. (25-6839)

After the war, Burg heard a lot about the allegations that people were gassed at Auschwitz and Majdanek. He proved that it was either out of stupidity or propaganda. Up to now, he pointed out, no document had been found showing who gave the order for gassings, who built them and where they were built. The German authorities especially had been called the "super-bureaucracis." It therefore couldn't be that after all these years not a document could be found. (25 6840)

Burg testified that he spoke to hundreds of people who serviced and operated the crematoria but the people who operated gas chambers were impossible to find. Nobody had published anything in which it was claimed that he worked in a gassing institution for human beings. There was literature about gassing that was completely contradictory. Why? Because it was all made up. These opinions were published in his books. (25-6840)

In every camp there were crematoria. It was a practical issue. People died. When the Germans occupied the eastern territories, the huge camps were established and there were larger and more crematoria as the war progressed. Epidemics broke out causing an increased number of deaths. The question of crematoria was one of hygiene: the process was more hygienic than burial and took less space. (26-6897, 6898)

Like all other activities in the camp, the inmates looked after the crematoria. It was the most difficult work because of the heat and the lifting of corpses into the ovens. The inmates worked very often in three shifts around the clock. (26-6998) These workers did it voluntarily. They were asked by the Jewish council or the Jewish police. It was important to ask how the Jewish council or police co-operated with the German SS. (26-6900)

When they were in full operation, the chimneys had an increased amount of smoke. So, logically, depending on the weather or the time of day, the colour of the flames was different. People invented stories that inside devilish things were going on. They said living human beings were being burned. They invented the story that every crematorium was a gas chamber. It had even gotten to the point that the authors had such large imaginations that when they saw the blue colour of the smoke, they knew that Jews were being burned. (26-6898, 6899)

Others invented the story that living Jews were being pushed in to be burned. Burg testified that he would like to see a Jew who had given such statements during a trial. He said such a Jew should be forced to take an oath under the rabbi rites with the skull cap, without pictures of Christ, with the Hebrew Bible, in the presence of a rabbi or a pious religious Jew. Then he should swear an oath that he had seen something like that. Then these false statements, these sick statements, would go down by 99.5 percent because the superficial oath was not morally binding for these Jews. (26-6900)

At the time he was in a displaced persons camp, Burg spoke to thirty or forty people about gas chambers and to about five to ten people about the crematoria. He had a special permit allowing him to visit the different areas where Jewish displaced persons were. He tried to get interviews from various ghettos and camps because at that time he had already checked various false statements. (26-6901)

In 1946 Burg attended the Nuremberg trials at times when matters involving Jews were being raised. During one of these attendances he met Ilya Ehrenburg and a Jewish publisher who had been in Auschwitz for several years. Burg asked the publisher whether he had seen any gassing institutions for human beings and he said no. Ehrenburg, who had been the head of propaganda for the Red Army during the war, told Burg he had been to Auschwitz but he too had not seen anything of gassings. Burg had discussed this information with Zündel in general. (25-6857, 6858) Burg could not understand the emphasis on gassings. (26-6904)

Burg himself was the son of Jewish parents and spent the war years in Transnystria, an area set aside by the Germans for banned people such as Jews. The Jews were banned because they had greeted the Red Army. The people in this area lived in small villages and towns but had to fend for themselves and were therefore worse off than those who were in the concentration camps. In the camps the German authorities looked after the inmates because, on average, they were used for work. There were attacks on the Jews in this area by foreign ethnic groups, but no attacks organized by the Germans. (25-6837, 6838, 26-6874, 6875)

In 1946 and 1947, Burg lived in Freising, a camp for Jewish displaced persons near Munich in the American Zone. The director was a Jewish-American officer. Burg served as a factotum: he organized the police, the prison, the newspaper, cultural affairs. He organized groups and drove them around Bavaria to show them the sights, the museums and castles. His experiences in the camp were included in the book Guilt and Fate. (25-6841)

Burg was read a passage from Did Six Million Really Die?:

The first Nazi proposals for a Madagascar solution were made in association with the Schacht Plan of 1938.

Burg testified that the emigration of Jews from Nazi Germany who did not go to Palestine was hindered by the Zionists. The Zionists prevented the Jews from going to other countries because their interest was in making the Jews go to Palestine. Furthermore, most countries blocked entrance to Jewish emigration. (25-6842)

The German Reich wanted to get the Jews out: how and where were secondary questions. The people under Göring dealing with the Jewish question picked up a plan which came from the founder of the Zionist movement, Theodor Herzl, which involved moving the Jews to Uganda or Madagascar. Both of these colonies belonged to France. The plan did not work out, but the existence of the plan alone proved logically that a liquidation of the Jews did not exist. Their labour was needed as well. Burg emphasized there was no liquidation of the Jews by the Germans. (25-6842, 6843, 6844)

The Transfer (Haavara) Agreement of 1933 was one of the most important incidents in the Holocaust framework. Under this agreement some 2.5 million Jews were to be traded for trucks. The agreement never came to fruition because the Zionists could not take that number of Jews to Palestine. (25-6853, 6854)

Burg had discovered that the German Zionist leaders requested as early as 1933 that the Jews be required to wear the yellow star. The Zionists saw it not as an insult but as a heroic gesture, just like the SS wore the swastika. In 1938 the director of the Zionist movement in the Third Reich brought about the wearing of the yellow star by the Jews against the wishes of both Göring and Goebbels. (25-6850)

Burg wrote in his books about the co-operation which existed between the Zionist leadership, including David Ben-Gurion, with the Nazi regime prior to the war. (26 6877) Several days after Hitler had been named Chancellor, Rabbi Leo Baeck, a leader of the Zionist organizations in Germany, announced publicly that the interests of Jewry were identical with the interests of National Socialism. Burg testified that Baeck meant "Zionism," not "Jewry." The Zionists at that time in Germany constituted one and a half percent of the Jewish population. A few days later another Zionist leader made a similar declaration. The sense of these declarations, testified Burg, was as follows: 'We nationalist Jews, meaning Zionists, are in agreement with this regime. We are not ashamed of our nationalist thoughts.' The Germans who had to deal with the Jewish question co-operated immediately with this minority of Jews in order to prove to the whole world that they were not anti-Jewish but were co-operating with the Jews. (26-6878, 6879)

In the early 1930s, as result of this co-operation between the Nazis and Zionists, some 120,000 Jews emigrated from Germany to Palestine. Difficulties began, however, when Britain, which administered Palestine, refused to issue any more immigration permits because of Arab unrest. (26-6879, 6880)

Zionists in Germany worked at organizing schools for children in the Jewish language, workshops for young people, etc., to help prepare people to emigrate at some point to Palestine. The Zionists were interested only in emigration to Palestine and did everything they could to make sure that outside of Palestine no Jews were admitted. The Nazis were interested in getting the Jews to emigrate wherever they could. Nevertheless, co-operation continued between the Zionists and the Nazis, such people as Adolf Eichmann, Golda Meir and David Ben-Gurion, until 1942 when the Zionist leaders were of the opinion they had reached their goal. Burg stated that even at that point Germany's defeat could be seen and the Zionists became like "rats leaving a sinking ship." (26-6880 to 6884)

Burg discussed the topic of Nazi and Zionist co-operation often with Zündel. Burg believed that the Zionists were the guilty party and that the Germans had been trapped. To brush everything over, the Zionists behaved like the cunning thief who runs ahead of the police screaming "Stop the thief!" It was Zündel's duty to fight against it and Burg stated he would help. Why? "Because otherwise it will never come to a reconciliation of the people. The truth is slowly coming out, and this is how, provoked by the Zionist leaders, a hatred against the Jews is growing." (26 6885)

Zündel had told Burg that thanks to his book Guilt and Fate, published in 1962, Zündel had become what he now was, a fighter for the truth, a fighter against the false accusations made against his people. (26-6885)

Burg testified that there was no liquidation in the concentration camps. The healthier people were used for free labour. Burg pointed out that even a golden cage was a limitation of freedom and even a crime, but the invention of gassings came from sick minds. Burg wanted to prove that even at Birkenau, where gassings allegedly occurred, Jewish men and women could get special treatment. An example was Benedikt Kautsky, a Jew who was a spiritual personality in the Socialist-Marxist world movement. Kautsky was in Birkenau during the war doing office work. His mother, aged 79, was also sent to Birkenau. When she became sick she got a separate room and a special diet ordered by the doctor. This was "special treatment," given so the woman's life could be prolonged if not cured. She died when she was 80 years of age. When he was liberated, Dr. Kautsky returned to Vienna, Austria where he continued his scientific work. (26- 6893, 6894) In 1946, immediately after the liberation, Dr. Kautsky was one of the first to publish a book. It had the German title Teufel und Verdammte (Devil and Damned). Burg testified that the book was the truth and had historical value. However, the whole edition was burned. One and a half years later, he published another edition in which he rewrote portions and made changes. But he didn't completely rewrite it. There was no documentation about gas chambers and Kautsky himself admitted he never saw a gas chamber himself. (26-6902)

In Schuld und Schicksal (Guilt and Fate) Burg dealt with the Warsaw and Lodz ghettos. When the German troops occupied Warsaw, they wanted to concentrate the Jewish population. Real ghettos had been there for centuries but the assimilated or emancipated Jews had lived far way from the ghettos. Now the Germans wanted to have the Jews all together. In a practical sense, the ghetto was also organized for the protection of the Jewish population. (26-6885, 6886)

The Zionists were happy with this arrangement. An appointed Jewish Council was the governing body of the ghetto. They had their own police, jails and everything else. Naturally, there were some who were cruel. One of these was the vice president of the police, who was later executed. In Burg's eyes, this execution was evidence that Jews defended themselves against the minority of Zionists who were using the majority of Jews for their own purposes. (26-6886, 6887)

In the Lodz ghetto there was a Jewish police force, a Jewish bank, Jewish money, a Jewish post office, stamps only for Jews. There were workshops for Jews. If there was a German plan to liquidate the Jews, why were there workshops?, asked Burg. Why those expenses? Why train children for jobs? Thanks to Berlin, Burg testified, the Jews practiced a small Israel. These things could not be said today, however, because it was now said that there was a "Holocaust" and the Jews were murdered. (26-6888, 6889)

The German people, not just the Nazis, had been blamed falsely; and not just Germans living in Germany but Germans living throughout the world. Burg had an interest in this because he believed it provoked hatred against Jews. Zionist leaders even today had a interest in the origination of pogroms against the Jews and Burg was testifying to prevent this. (26-6889)

In 1982 Zündel wrote to Burg twice asking him for help against the Zionists in Toronto who were creating problems for him, and for a recommendation. Zündel had been of the opinion that this could be helpful for him. (26-6891)

Burg had frequently discussed the subject of German restitution with Zündel. In Burg's opinion, if the Holocaust hadn't been invented, the Germans wouldn't be paying restitution and, he pointed out, "they are paying." He dealt with the subject in his book Guilt and Fate which Zündel read in the 1960s. (25-6850, 6851) Israel was created in 1948 and in 1951 still had no diplomatic ties with the Federal Republic of Germany. In that year, Israel gave Dr. Nahum Goldmann, a representative of the World Jewish Congress, authority to negotiate with Dr. Adenauer, the Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, concerning Germany's guilt. Israel, under Ben Gurion, wanted money from the "damned Germans" but didn't want to sit down at a table together with them to negotiate. The negotiations between Goldmann and Adenauer resulted in a recognition by Germany that it had committed a holocaust against the Jews. (26-6904, 6905)

Burg testified that it was important to distinguish payments to the state of Israel. Israel did not exist during the war. It was Palestine then and belonged to the British administration. During the whole of the Second World War, not one single German soldier was in Palestine. What was there to make good again, to repair?, asked Burg. (26-6905)

Israel submitted a document to Germany stating that of four European Jews, three had been killed and for those dead people Israel demanded restitution. The document did not claim that 6 million died. Neither gassings nor murder were obvious from the document. The word used was "killed." The initial sum of 3.5 million marks had grown and not only today's Germans would pay but also the newborns. The sums were justified by inventions that 40 million Jews were gassed, then 25, then about 6 million, the level at which it had stayed. (26-6907)

Burg testified that the reason for the continuation of war crimes trials in both the Federal Republic of Germany and the United States was to prove to everybody that the Germans, even the ones born in America and Toronto, were to be blamed for the murdering and gassing of Jews. (26-6907)

Israel existed on the basis that a Holocaust happened. The German people of the Federal Republic paid money honestly earned by work to Israel, a barrel without a bottom. (26-6916)

Goldmann also negotiated for those who had been liberated from the concentration camps. These were the ones who had suffered, said Burg, who had their homes and apartments taken away from them, who had left everything behind. Special offices for restitution were set up around the world where Germany had representations. (26-6906)

Burg discussed with Zündel who was responsible for the upset in the world between Germans and Jews. He told Zündel that the First World War had brought the Zionists a homestead in Palestine but not a nation. This was much too little and everything had to be done to create a state of Israel. This was only possible by war activity. A world war had to come about. The Zionists therefore co-operated with what was known as Wall Street. Wall Street brought about the Second World War, just as they had brought about the First World War. Burg noted that the Hitler regime had also been supported because it was supposed to fight the Communists. Like the National Socialists, the Communists did not want to subordinate themselves to Wall Street. The plan of Churchill, together with the Zionists and the Americans of Wall Street, was to ensure that the National Socialists and Communists "knocked each other out." Chaim Weizmann had stated that he was willing to sacrifice German Jewry in the interest of a state of Israel. (26- 6912, 6913, 6915)

Burg agreed that Zündel had shown a sincere curiosity about the Jewish question. Zündel was a German and he was defending his country, said Burg. Zündel had told him that he saw it as his life's work to defend his people because they were being defamed. Burg himself believed the German people were being defamed. He had expressed this view in his books "again and again" and suffered personally as a result. Burg was happy that Zündel had learned a little from him, by not talking automatically of "Jews" but instead emphasizing "Zionists." (25-6848 to 6851)

If the Holocaust story went on the way it was going, said Burg, there would never be a sincere relationship between the Jews and the Germans. The Zionist leaders would see to that. Burg had told Zündel that films such as Holocaust and Shoah were fortifications of a falsification of history, made for the purpose of showing Germans why they had to pay and that the paying would go on for another few generations. (25-6851, 6852)

Burg testified that if Zündel had gone along with the current, he wouldn't have the problems he did. It would have been a much easier life for him. It was Burg's opinion that if there were another two or three Zündel's, it would be better for Jews as well. (26-6892, 6893)

The Crown chose not to cross-examine Burg.


*** I have posted before about how nazis and zionists worked together so im not going to post it here .Takes too much space.Although i think it is a necessary thing to read to understand bigger picture.
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[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you Jaak. Parts unknown to me.

In the early 90s my father and I scanned the databases in the Belgian historical archives about WWII deportation – looking for traces of his younger brother (as a boy resistant arrested in the summer of 43, died in Groß-Rosen (Rogoznica) February 45 (or maybe a few months earlier, as I recently have started suspecting)). In the autumn of 44 Groß-Rosen got an enormous influx from other camps farther East in Poland, displaced lest they fall in Soviet hands and join their ranks. In those months the number of inmates more than doubled to reach more than 200,000 if I remember correctly. (Terrible living conditions.) What struck us was the vast number of nationalities, and the presence of Jewish surnames. In Groß-Rosen (one of the main KZ-Lager) people with Jewish ancestry were not singled out; the camp contained political prisoners, and they were there for that reason, as anybody else. “At least there, they survived to the same extent as everybody”, we concluded – “better be a political prisoner when Jewish during those final years”. Recently I came across another written account of Groß-Rosen (I quoted it elsewhere on PA, I think): not the SS guards were most feared: the KaPos were: the inmates ruling over the other inmates, their cruelty was limitless.

The history of each of the (major) camps still needs to be written.

[Jaak]

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[HopSan]

Thanks all, this is a touchy subject.

1. As I described in another thread, my closest neighbour as a young boy was a very nice jewish boy, whose father lived in Israel, and mother in Finland. Great friends for years. He was then 100% Finnish, in every way.

2. I met him later, after 10-15 years, and found out that he had served in Israel army (I in Finnish as every male Finn, by then a reserve officer). He talked very carefully, looked at me sideways, as if hiding something. Not like an old friend.

3. I have seen and touched the Auschwitz ovens, a long time ago (photographs somewhere). I did not then think about it, but these ovens were not 'industrial' scale, in the slightest sense. I have engineering background, and nothing fits.

4. Observing facts is not hate.

[Jaak]

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