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Constance
23rd November 2015, 05:52
This is an incredible look at how your genes can be altered by environmental conditions.


Pembrey and Begran had the first conclusive proof of an environmental effect inherited in humans. The impact of a famine being captured by the genes in the eggs and sperm and a memory of this event was being carried forward to affect the grandchildren generations later.
We are changing the view of what inheritance is. You can't in life, in ordinary development and living, separate out the gene from the environmental effect, they are so intertwined. Pembrey and Begrans work showed clearly what our grandparents ate could affect our health. Increasingly it appeared that all sorts of environmental events were capable of affecting the genes.

Edit: the last video stopped working

http://vimeo.com/121428961

Fairy Friend
23rd November 2015, 07:02
This was very well done. I was surprised they didn't mention how the Holocaust victims also had an increase of children born with schizophrenia or autism as a possible potentiating effect. More to come with the next generations.....

21g
23rd November 2015, 07:33
Fascinating subject,this. So many implications.

Cause and effect in action.

Is it such a leap to realise we are all one, whether we like it or not :) ?

Bookmarked for later. Cheers breal.

amor
23rd November 2015, 09:12
In the end, we are not all one, some are sheep (presently being sheared) and the rest are goats (causing all the trouble through FREE WILL). The creator will exile them to hell if they don't pull up their socks.

mosquito
23rd November 2015, 10:37
VERY important information, let's hope it doesn't take the rest of the scientific establishment 200 years to accept it. :wizard:

TargeT
23rd November 2015, 14:59
It's sad to see how low the view counts are on videos like this...

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Fairy Friend
23rd November 2015, 18:04
This work already goes back 3 decades. Change is slow but we're coming along. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2564739. I was lucky to have met Beckwith-Wiedemann. Mainstream scientist are there.

ErtheVessel
23rd November 2015, 21:59
Deleted post - after watching more of the video, I see that my comment was not really relevant to the topic of epigenetics. Sorry!

21g
23rd November 2015, 23:52
In the end, we are not all one, some are sheep (presently being sheared) and the rest are goats (causing all the trouble through FREE WILL). The creator will exile them to hell if they don't pull up their socks.

We could probably do the bandwidth Bossa Nova, amor, with our different ideas about that one !

Maybe Epigenetics gives us a glimpse of what the creator had in mind ?
Anyhow, plenty of useful links to refresh my understanding of it.

Robert Baird
7th March 2016, 19:22
From: http://ezinearticles.com/?Creation&id=42752

Tiller and his student Lipton are part of what will cause gene-therapy to be THE way of the future. I have much more on this to post.

CREATION OF ANIMATE FROM INANIMATE: - We have touched upon some scientific dry wells and frauds already. The idea of cold fusion and perpetual motion that the Utah researchers may not have achieved was just dealt with: but a recent report showing a Utah student using Farnsworth's old designs is another example that makes me think Cold Fusion is going to be a reality. Chaos is the operating fact of the universe that does actually adapt and create or mutate through qualitative and quantitative leaps according to the Russian (Check out the New Frontier people who have a site on the web.) and mystical scientific paradigm-thinking. Thus many of the normal behavioral observations can only explain part of the day to day 'reality'. A few decades ago science generated proteins from apparent nothingness and declared they had created life from inanimate. This concept and experiment was partially replicable and became touted and taught throughout all schools, but it was less than what it was represented to be in the final analysis. NASA now pronounces there is life everywhere including interstellar vacuums. Microbes are not the only reason for this truth.

Just as there are archetypes in our minds the equivalent templates of knowledge exist in the 'ether' or 'cosmic soup'. Together and inclusive of all knowledge we get the Universal Mind or Harmonic Convergence. These things are shallow images of what really can be done with joined effort of mind and soul through the attunement of adept practitioners and observers of nature. The Jewish 'Golem' is supposedly able to invest the soul of a dead person into the fashioned earth and matter that the Rabbis or other magicians work with. The alchemist's 'homonunclus', and gargoyles being brought to life by Kafka: legends abound in many cultural settings. The possibility of such an act of creation is more mind-blowing to any rational person than even the focusing of dimensional forces. How could one actually tap their genetic knowledge to cause any form of life to exist. Yet it would appear mere science can create some rudimentary building blocks and that energy can be directed through super conscious latticeworks that retain information much as the silicon computer chip or digitized quantum bits of cognized information. The one dimensional harmonic forces of String Theory that combine to form membranes and other 11-dimensional realities are quite reminiscent of the concepts of animating and transmuting the form of matter (which is just lower level or dross energy).

The amount of time that man has been aware and creatively focused on attunement is far longer than the time he has been fixed on power and material greed. It didn't require writing it down. In fact it isn't very easy to explain how chaos or creation works by any scientist who can demonstrate the mathematical formula. Yes, we see there are eloquent images and fancy terminologies. What the formula can do is still largely unproven in terms of what the apparent potential might yield. Man is on the verge of being able to create and have robots to create as self-replicants and restructuring of wood or other energy into food or gold. This is the expected near future outcome with nanotechnology and 'replicators' much like the Star Trek images have brought us for many years.

Bucky Fuller called it creative realization and said that anything we can imagine is achievable through our acceptance and focused intention. He was saying it in dry and often scientific or even incomprehensible language but he is right. So we can say that 'survival of the fittest' is a rude natural fact that 'creation' can alter and surpass. The ancient ideals of Godheads and akashic or other direct cognition are worth exploration because the world of 'seems to be' is really what ever we can create. Hopefully my naïve perception about RIGHT THOUGHT=RIGHT ACTION from the laws of the Magi is an operating principle.

Did Mungo Man's line of humans go wrong? How much of these things did they learn? Did they teach some of our kind to do some of these things? If 'fittest' can be conceived with a God-like PURPOSE and there truly is an effort of all energy to harmonize and find the most creative application (or happiness) then we are in for some fantastic voyages of splendiferous 'reality'! Can these images of heaven on earth really come about? Or will our ethical malaise ensure old line greed overtakes a universe of possibilities. Science already gives a power to do many things which in the hands of certain people generates a great deal of concern. Was it John Donne who said if one man suffers we all are diminished? The natural ways that energy and its consciousness form and weave matter are the subject of observers in science once again. Dr. Don Robbins is a solid state chemist whose work I truly appreciate. In the following excerpts from an article titled 'Nanotubes for Electronics' from Dec. 2000's Scientific American please imagine how these naturally occurring objects occur if there is no consciousness in matter, and remember the ancients did have lenses for telescopes and microscopes.


"Nearly 10 years ago Sumio Iijima, sitting at an electron microscope at the NEC Fundamental Research Laboratory in Tsukaba, Japan, first noticed odd nanoscopic threads lying in a smear of soot. Made of pure carbon, as regular and symmetric as crystals, these exquisitely thin, impressively long macromolecules soon became known as nanotubes {And even if the ancients didn't have adequate microscopes the existence of these fits with the science of lattices and energy we can measure in Stonehenge and the kings chamber of the Great Pyramid. They were able to attune with it.}, and they have been the object of intense scientific study ever since.

Just recently, they have become a subject for engineering as well. Many of the extraordinary properties attributed to nanotubes--among them, superlative resilience, tensile strength and thermal stability--have fed fantastic predictions of microscopic robots, dent-resistant car bodies and earthquake-resistant buildings {The poured in place concrete in Peru with angled rocks that 'fit' like the Great Pyramid?}. The first products to use nanotubes, however, exploit none of these. Instead the earliest applications are electrical. Some General Motors cars already include plastic parts to which nanotubes were added; such plastic can be electrified during painting so that the paint will stick more readily {And be made smooth and even through the use of a laser measuring application.}. And two nanotube-based lighting and display products are well on their way to market.cont'd