Kennedy, The lost bullet (brown coated woman)

[sunshaker]

I watched Kennedy "THE LOST BULLET" on tv last night, I Haven't looked into Kennedy for years, But there was one bit of the film showing a woman? in a brown coat(not mentioned in film),
To me she just did not "feel right" looks like bad disguise? carrying umbrella/gun?, she seemed to hang around, waiting for something/somebody,
if you pause first clip at 1:02, you see a large man in shirt standing next to yellow traffic post, at 1:05 a another man comes into shot walking fast, then the woman picks up speed, the man who was standing next to yellow post also then moves to pass woman/man, you see him turn is head as they pass,(white van then gets in way).
To me they looked part of a team? where they waiting for a signal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA0t5zvaW70?t=62

In this video "the lost bullet", at 41:47 you can better see what the woman is carrying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyECKcK0uCw
I then looked at a couple of videos to see if there where any clearer shots, I found this video, observations on Hughes video, the final observation includes the clip with the woman in brown coat, but again she is not mentioned but the camera pans to another man walking away, the commentator of video suggests it may be Oswald?
Could this possibly be a team? the others waited for Oswald before moving, They all seemed to move as this Oswald passes them.

you can see this at 3:28 in this hughes video clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rue7AGoHibA?t=208

This may be nothing, but "the woman in brown coat" just feels wrong.

[Rex]

She walks like a man.

[Aurvandil]

Very interesting! And surely very strange, never observed this before.

I totally agree with you, they seem to be connected in some way, just walking in the opposite directions so calmly. It looks like he is trying to catch up with the woman. It is like "mission accomplished, we should leave as soon as possible".

I agree with Rex, can the woman be a man? She sure doesn´t walk like a woman. The hair look strange and her hunched back also seem strange.

Could be interesting to compare the man with Jack Ruby (haven´t found any good pictures of him) but it could just be "anyone".

[sunshaker]

She does look/move like a man, It was what first caught my eye, she just looks fake.

Also if you look at middle video from 41:47 pause at 41:50 you notice the large shirted man move "AROUND" the yellow traffic post, and "LINES" himself up, so his heels are almost touching post,
then walks directly to brown coated woman/man,(something that was perhaps rehearsed) nearly bumping into each other, does he pass or take something from her at 41:51? womans head obscures?
Just before van passes, shirted man turns his head(to acknowledge other agent?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyECKcK0uCw?t=2507

[Betty]

Sunshaker, You're the first person I know of that's noticed there is a person in the backseat of the lead car looking backwards. I've researched this and it was Sheriff Decker in the driver's side backseat. Decker gave a statement right after the assassination. In that statement he states that he saw the spray from Kennedy's head and saw a bullet hit the pavement. The only problem is that Decker had a glass right eye. In order to see Kennedy he would have had to look over his right shoulder with that glass right eye. When it came time for him to testify to the Warren Commission in the spring of 1964 he would not talk about what he saw from that lead car.
Decker's staff really liked him and had an author write Decker's biography. There was a monument erected to him but I was unable to find it when I was in Dallas. Decker was in on the Bonnie and Clyde case helping to capture them.
The others in the lead car included Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry (driver), Winston Lawson secret service (front seat passenger) and Forrest Sorrels secret service of Dallas ( back seat passenger side). They all testified to the Warren Commission what they saw while in that lead car at that time of the assassination.
Winston Lawson was also in charge of the prep work for the motorcade including the cars. He also had a backround in counterintelligence from the Korean War.
Forrest Sorrels went with Zapruder to develop the film. Sorrels was portrayed by Billy Bob Thornton in the movie Parkland. When you read other's testimony Sorrels name pops up time and again. Abraham Bolder, the first black secret service man, describes a wild goose chase that Sorrels sent him on. Sorrels states he was first one into Parkland hospital demanding staff to bring stretchers. He also interviewed a witness directly after the assassination that saw someone in the 6th floor window. I can't remember that witness's name right now.
Regarding the people walking away. Maybe they weren't interested to see anything else or maybe they were invited to see what happened and then walked away when it was done?

[Chester]

I have two very dear friends from childhood. One of them "b" had a father who was the general manager of one of the top two hotels in Dallas at that time. My friend, "b." told me that he remembers Sheriff Bill Decker and Jack Ruby coming over to this hotel on "fight nights" which were boxing matches normally piped in only on closed circuit TV or were the local "Golden Gloves" boxing matches that were shown on local TV. The three, Ruby, Decker and my friend's Dad would hang out with each other while watching the fights.

He told me that his Dad was a close friend of Jack Ruby. He told me of the time (after Ruby was in jail for shooting Oswald) that his father took him with him to visit Ruby in jail. He told me it was Ruby's birthday. He told me that he had bought Jack Ruby a birthday card. He told me that there were newspaper people hanging around who asked him why he got Jack Ruby a birthday card. His reply was something like, "Everyone deserves to get a birthday card on their birthday." He told me this was put in the Dallas newspaper. There were only two newspapers in Dallas at that time, the Dallas Morning News and the Dallas Times Herald. I might try and search for the article my friend said was in the paper.

[WhiteLove]

What I find most interesting about this story is the hole on the traffic light in combination with the replacement of it. This strongly indicates roughly where the gun shots came from and that a cover up was carried out throughout the whole event to wipe out possible traces. I am sure that if you would make an attempt at finding out when and who replaced that traffic light, it would be near impossible to get a confirmation on the data presented.

The first shot likely missed the target due to that traffic light, but presumably all three shots were done with high precision. With this kind of target the shooter must have been carefully picked. Lots of planning behind this tragic act.

[Chester]

I have two very dear friends from childhood. One of them "b" had a father who was the general manager of one of the top two hotels in Dallas at that time. My friend, "b." told me that he remembers Sheriff Bill Decker and Jack Ruby coming over to this hotel on "fight nights" which were boxing matches normally piped in only on closed circuit TV or were the local "Golden Gloves" boxing matches that were shown on local TV. The three, Ruby, Decker and my friend's Dad would hang out with each other while watching the fights.

He told me that his Dad was a close friend of Jack Ruby. He told me of the time (after Ruby was in jail for shooting Oswald) that his father took him with him to visit Ruby in jail. He told me it was Ruby's birthday. He told me that he had bought Jack Ruby a birthday card. He told me that there were newspaper people hanging around who asked him why he got Jack Ruby a birthday card. His reply was something like, "Everyone deserves to get a birthday card on their birthday." He told me this was put in the Dallas newspaper. There were only two newspapers in Dallas at that time, the Dallas Morning News and the Dallas Times Herald. I might try and search for the article my friend said was in the paper.

UPDATE: After writing this post, I revisited the story. I spoke with "b's" mother. She told me she knew nothing about any birthday card. She told me that "b" had actually brought a puppy up to the jail for Jack Ruby.

I found this puppy business highly unlikely as there's no way I could imagine Ruby being allowed a puppy in jail. So I called "b" and he told me that the birthday card he brought to Ruby that he had drawn a puppy on the card. He said clearly his mom is getting stuff mixed up (his mother being in her late 80s). I then mentioned about what I had recalled hearing from "b" before (that I wrote about in the post above related to this birthday card business being put in a Dallas newspaper) and he didn't react like that part of the story was true. He seemed genuine both times - the time he told me this... about a year or so ago and then a few days ago when he didn't act as if he remembered that part.

This also reminds me of when I spoke with his mother about "b's" story about Ruby and Decker coming up to watch the fights. I recall when "b" told me this, I had the impression they came up to "b's" father's apartment. His mother didn't recall this and suggested perhaps that if this was true, they probably came over to the bar in the hotel "b's" father managed.

Why I am writing about this is that this is an example of how people recall things differently and that the same person's memory can change.

Of course, then we have the possibility that "someone" got to "b" where he might have changed his story. My point here is that in "all possibility" all sorts of things are possible, but I now ask... what can anyone benefit today from knowing the actual truth of all these peripheral details even if the actual truth could ever be uncovered?

I also ask who benefits from all these possibilities of conspiracies, the evil "they," the evil controllers... etc. Don't take this comment the wrong way to conclude I am suggesting there is no "they" because I am not. Yet if the "they" is a constant focus of our fear based attention... then isn't it possible that this action by "us" (the curious and somewhat informed and "awakened" crowd) actually provides energy which might make the "they" even stronger? Hey, I am of the curious... but when I was younger I allowed all my wild speculations to generate fear within me.

I was asked yesterday if I thought the actual truth as to the exact who (and those with direct participatory roles if it was not Oswald the lone nut) did the job and if I thought that the actual reasons (in order of importance) would ever be publicly known. My answer is no... it will never be publicly known as to the actual who and the actual whys. There so much out there that the even if at some point the actual truth is mentioned, it would be lost in the vast sea of lies and perhaps intentionally produced misdirection.