No Abduction is from a Benevolent Race ~ ET Surgery

[Omni]

This article I wrote about my ET surgery experiences and a bit about abduction. I have been writing less about extraterrestrial information and more about things I know for a fact. In this article its a bit of both mixed. For the record I have no confirmed memories of being abducted ever, but that is sturdy to me from research alone...

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No Abduction is From a Benevolent Race ~ Extraterrestrial Surgery

Came across this topic on skype, and figured it made a decent blog post.

First as an introduction for those who may not be well researched on these subjects... Abductions have been happening globally for millennia. You can find traces of them throughout history in the form of people reporting being taken by fairys or angels or demons and fallen angels(a few of the covers both sides of Extraterrestrials had at the time). In the modern day, the evidence for abductions is astounding for anyone who cares to research it.

People of all ages and types report abductions. From children who report grey extraterrestrials with big eyes telling them they are working on humanity's evolution, to Betty and Barney Hill in the 1960s.

The most frequent beings seen during abductions from my research appears to be Greys, Reptilians, and Mantid extraterrestrials. Sometimes a human will be accompanying them.

The perpetrators of abduction I would square on ET space programs as well as military sources who seem to have a major god complex and do not respect anyone's free will or privacy...


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No Abduction is from a Benevolent Race
(there may be some extremely rare exceptions)

Benevolent extraterrestrials have the capability to perform semen extraction, egg extraction, and even surgery without actually abducting someone. How do I know this? I have experienced it myself. According to my contacts, the most advanced technologies can perform advanced surgeries of any type humans know of, with very exact precision. I have had minor surgery by ETs on my eyes in one example. After being tortured with my eyes so much, I lost vision. That vision problem was later fixed by ET technology.

The actual physical technology doing the surgery is interdimensional therefore invisible, it is in another connected dimension to our own, in other words an entire new plane of the same 3d+time and natural laws as our plane of existence. There are many ways of interdimensional technology interacting with our dimension, but I will leave that for my books and more articles in the future...

There are small robots that can find and extract eggs, no need for abduction. Semen can be extracted more easily than eggs I would imagine. When my semen was extracted by multiple cosmic sources, some asking me for permission, others not, I could feel it take place.

One experience I had was when I was asked if I liked my genetics. I said yes, they asked if they could take a sample of my semen, and said it would be non invasive. Shortly after the contact I felt a sensation of the extraction. I wont explain it as it's in a private area I don't feel like explaining. But it was quick and painless.

Any benevolent race if they do have any business with you doesn't need to abduct. Abduction is a violation of free will and trauma causing events are avoided by benevolent ETs... Almost no one on Earth would like to be surprised waking up with alien beings next to them operating on them. Benevolent ET races are very considerate of free will and people's right to choose.

So any race you wake up in a ship with while they operate on you, is very likely a negative race. This brings up the question, well why abduct people if they can do all this without needing to displace someone from sleeping? I don't fully know that, but my best guess is to traumatize people and/or societal engineering...

Some of the best UFOlogy material is abduction testimony in my humble opinion... It's worth a look if you are skeptical but willing to change your mind if you reach better evidence.

Source Link: http://omnisense.blogspot.com/2015/11/no-abduction-is-from-benevolent-race-extraterrestrial-surgery.html

[Daughter of Time]

I'm in full agreement with you, Omni! Benevolent ETs do not abduct!

I also have heard of rare cases where a person with a life threatening illness found themselves having unrequested surgery by non-earthly beings and the condition disappeared. But this is rare. Very rare!

I do recall, clearly, some of my abductions and surgeries, one in particular. Although at the time it didn't feel malevolent because of the programmings imprinted in me that this was happening because I was special, I ended up with health issues on account of those surgeries. For instance, hundreds or more ova were extracted from my ovaries, which damaged my ovaries and rendered me incapable of reproducing. And although I don't really mind this at this point in time, since the world is crazy and I feel it's probably best not to reproduce, the choice was taken from me. This is not benevolent!

BENEVOLENT EXTRA TERRESTRIALS DO NOT ABDUCT!

[Apophenia]

I would partially agree, insofar as the label of 'benevolent' or 'malevolent' projects human behavior onto non-human entities, without taking into account how we treat other living creatures, including each other in this world.

A similar argument could be made that 'benevolent human beings' do not kidnap, experiment on, or slaughter animals for their own purposes. See where this argument leads?

If these ETs are malevolent, then what does that make us?

You see... this is why I let go of this fallacious concept, because it is highly inconsistent and implicates a worldview where we think "it is okay when WE do it / not okay when THEY do it."

As for the 'most advanced groups are more benevolent, because no abduction takes place' seems to coast past the idea that something is still being taken, while it is misconstruing a moral compass out of it, instead of seeing that it may in fact be a technological difference, not a moral one.

[Omni]

[LEFT]I would partially agree, insofar as the label of 'benevolent' or 'malevolent' projects human behavior onto non-human entities, without taking into account how we treat other living creatures, including each other in this world.

A similar argument could be made that 'benevolent human beings' do not kidnap, experiment on, or slaughter animals for their own purposes. See where this argument leads?

If these ETs are malevolent, then what does that make us?


Humanity is a confused undeveloped race that has a malevolent leadership. Undeveloped races are more in a grey area when labeling their entire race's objectives and goals.

To other planets we would be a malevolent race perhaps, because our space programs(if they reach to other solar systems) are in almost all likelihood malevolent.

Humanity is lead covertly, and as I say, undeveloped. So we couldn't be labeled so easily.

And I'd say those things you mention are not part of benevolence at all. I don't come preloaded with thinking humanity is benevolent. hehe :) And the races I speak to don't slaughter or mistreat animals. They are vegans. Most angelic races are vegan or vegetarian in my experiences...


You see... this is why I let go of this fallacious concept, because it is highly inconsistent and implicates a worldview where we think "it is okay when WE do it / not okay when THEY do it."

As for the 'most advanced groups are more benevolent, because no abduction takes place' seems to coast past the idea that something is still being taken, while it is misconstruing a moral compass out of it, instead of seeing that it may in fact be a technological difference, not a moral one.

Once you learn what exists in the universe, the labels of dark ETs and Lightside ETs make full sense. It isn't a fallacious concept at all. But I can understand how it might seem that way from a point of view that doesn't include the galactic society.

In the cosmos you will find enlightenment beyond what you see on earth, and you will find darkness beyond what you see on earth. The universe as far as I know is largely divided into two major polarities. Dark and Light. Individuals are more complicated. A race's space programs can very easily be determined to be benevolent or malicious.. For example recording and documenting a seed vault for a race incapable of such(to be gifted to them later) is benevolent. To maliciously sabotage a race's genetics, is malevolent. These are the types of space programs out there.

And I didn't say the most advanced groups are benevolent. Not sure how that was implied...

[Apophenia]

Humanity is a confused undeveloped race that has a malevolent leadership. Undeveloped races are more in a grey area when labeling their entire race's objectives and goals.

To other planets we would be a malevolent race perhaps, because our space programs(if they reach to other solar systems) are in almost all likelihood malevolent.

Humanity is lead covertly, and as I say, undeveloped. So we couldn't be labeled so easily.

And I'd say those things you mention are not part of benevolence at all. I don't come preloaded with thinking humanity is benevolent. hehe :) And the races I speak to don't slaughter or mistreat animals. They are vegans. Most angelic races are vegan or vegetarian in my experiences...

That does not fully answer the point I brought up, merely coasts around it.

At the end of the day, nobody puts a gun to a persons head and says 'EAT THE F*CKING LAMB CHOP', 'PUT ON THESE ANIMAL PRODUCTS', etc... it is due to our survival, our past (ET influence or not) that we do this.

If you assume the notion that said influence has always guided us, then how is it realistically going to change? You can only come to the conclusion that it never will then, and that the people saying otherwise without addressing the human-side of these issues may not know as much as they claim to put forward, or even worse; they may very well be slaughterhouse goats.

At the end of the day, what we do on this planet is merely a microcosmic version of what is being discussed about the Greys, Reptilians, Mantid aliens, and anyone else associated with them. That puts everything into appropriate perspective, and highlights very much where we are projecting. Even if you include 'malevolent leadership', there are still loads of things we do that are not adequately explained by this, that is unless...


Once you learn what exists in the universe, the labels of dark ETs and Lightside ETs make full sense. It isn't a fallacious concept at all. But I can understand how it might seem that way from a point of view that doesn't include the galactic society.

In the cosmos you will find enlightenment beyond what you see on earth, and you will find darkness beyond what you see on earth. The universe as far as I know is largely divided into two major polarities. Dark and Light. Individuals are more complicated. A race's space programs can very easily be determined to be benevolent or malicious.. For example recording and documenting a seed vault for a race incapable of such(to be gifted to them later) is benevolent. To maliciously sabotage a race's genetics, is malevolent. These are the types of space programs out there.

And I didn't say the most advanced groups are benevolent. Not sure how that was implied...

See here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?86296-Ascension-is-a-Mind-Control-Program&p=1017229#post1017229)

Please do not assume what I know, that is a common tactic employed by people in New Age groups is to assume someone is just ignorant of the subject when they don't fit the convenient one-dimensional narrative they put fourth.

Simply put, the 'malevolent group' are either on par with the 'benevolent group', or they are not. If they are not... why isn't there an intervention then to stop what is going on?

If they are on par, then ask yourself... who designed that in mind, and why? The answer to this isn't pleasant either, because it implies that whoever put this in place at least tacitly thought 'this situation is acceptable / good', and that would put the designer in a morally grey category.

The alternative is what I said above, that creator or no creator, the rules are very clearly outlined, and that is that this multiverse is a free-for-all. Anything done to change that has to be done consciously, if one desires it.

These 'benevolent ETs' cannot seem to get past a simple series of questions or logic problems that are said by a 3D human spirit. Isn't that interesting?


To maliciously sabotage a race's genetics, is malevolent....or species, more accurately. Then it is conclusive, human beings are just as 'moral.'


And I didn't say the most advanced groups are benevolent. Not sure how that was implied... I said that more generally, but it does apply to you, because you made the thread title stating as such, and was agreed upon by someone else after you posted the topic.

[Omni]

That does not fully answer the point I brought up, merely coasts around it.

At the end of the day, nobody puts a gun to a persons head and says 'EAT THE F*CKING LAMB CHOP', 'PUT ON THESE ANIMAL PRODUCTS', etc... it is due to our survival, our past (ET influence or not) that we do this.
Actually, genetic disposition does in some ways dictate what a person will feel best eating. So i guess genetics put that gun to their head in some cases. My mother cannot eat a meal without meat without feeling bad. I'd say she is kind of forced to eat meat.

And I did not avoid any part of your points to my knowledge. But perhaps that is your way of saying my answers don't appear satisfactory to you?...


If you assume the notion that said influence has always guideded us, then how is it realistically going to change? You can only come to the conclusion that it never will then, and that the people saying otherwise without addressing the human-side of these issues may not know as much as they claim to put forward, or even worse; they may very well be slaughterhouse goats.
I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean the hidden cosmic hands guiding humanity? No, that wont change IMO unless it's all disclosed and we become sovereign.



At the end of the day, what we do on this planet is merely a microcosmic version of what is being discussed about the Greys, Reptilians, Mantid aliens, and anyone else associated with them. That puts everything into appropriate perspective, and highlights very much where we are projecting. Even if you include 'malevolent leadership', there are still loads of things we do that are not adequately explained by this, that is unless...

I'd say it's a fair assessment to say humanity's leadership is wholly corrupted. So your as above so below analogy confirms my beliefs in the area.


Please do not assume what I know, that is a common tactic employed by people in New Age groups is to assume someone is just ignorant of the subject when they don't fit the convenient one-dimensional narrative they put fourth.
It is a direct result of you not being aware that ET races in the universe are often well summed up by the dark and light. Obviously it is more complicated than that but I've come to grips with using language(words) in a concise manner to convey what I mean. I can't say "Almost all benevolent, almost all enlightened, almost all reasonable with pockets of more undeveloped people races" can I?

If you aren't aware that the most advanced races have almost all unified in their agenda, and their space programs can be very easily summed up as malicious/self serving or altruistic/benevolent, this shows me you are not aware of the true picture. I apologize if that statement made you unhappy. It had nothing to do with new age stuff. If you are aware I am probably the biggest opposition to new age stuff on this forum since 2011.


And it would be a mistake to assume the universe is an exact copy of what you witness on Earth.


Simply put, the 'malevolent group' are either on par with the 'benevolent group', or they are not. If they are not... why isn't there an intervention then to stop what is going on?

If they are on par, then ask yourself... who designed that in mind, and why? The answer to this isn't pleasant either, because it implies that whoever put this in place at least tacitly thought 'this situation is acceptable / good', and that would put the designer in a morally grey category.
Nobody designed it in my mind. It has been part of an inner knowing throughout my life that has brought me to truth. For example when very young I could feel darkness on Earth, and embraced and identified with the light. After I learned what conspiracy was, I knew it was taking place from this inner guidance. If you take a look around at who rules the planet with clarity, they can easily be summed up as malicious. Same as ET race's leaderships in a large way(undeveloped races in a lesser way).


The alternative is what I said above, that creator or no creator, the rules are very clearly outlined, and that is that this multiverse is a free-for-all. Anything done to change that has to be done consciously, if one desires it.
Exopolitics means there is order. It isn't a free for all. If it was a free for all every potent activist would be killed and darkness would be 10x more powerful than it is now, because it is much easier to destroy life than it is to create it.


These 'benevolent ETs' cannot seem to get past a simple series of questions or logic problems that are said by a 3D human spirit. Isn't that interesting?
In your own mind ;)



To maliciously sabotage a race's genetics, is malevolent....or species, more accurately. Then it is conclusive, human beings are just as 'moral.'
What is conclusive? Are you projecting now? You seem to be saying I'm oversimplifying exopolitics by saying its polarities of dark and light. Now you are oversimplifying an entire race's comparison to another based on one action of one race, and all actions of another? Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't get your reasoning honestly.

If you seek to simplify a judgment of an entire race on one action, go ahead. I don't think it's sound reasoning personally.




And I didn't say the most advanced groups are benevolent. Not sure how that was implied... I said that more generally, but it does apply to you, because you made the thread title stating as such, and was agreed upon by someone else after you posted the topic.
So you have a problem with saying some advanced groups are benevolent? I don't get this either TBH... In no way is saying there are benevolent advanced sources out there saying they all are benevolent. In fact the title would lead one to think I mean there are both dark and light sources in the ET spectrum.

[Apophenia]

Actually, genetic disposition does in some ways dictate what a person will feel best eating. So i guess genetics put that gun to their head in some cases. My mother cannot eat a meal without meat without feeling bad. I'd say she is kind of forced to eat meat.

Like I said, if the influence has always existed, AKA these entities created us, or took us from a basic status and changed our genetics in some way, then people are in way over their head. The discussion swings then into 'we underestimate / don't know what is going on' or the entire narrative is wrong. Pick one.

Oh and please spare me the response of 'I reject this because I refuse to understand / entertain the points made.'


And I did not avoid any part of your points to my knowledge. But perhaps that is your way of saying my answers don't appear satisfactory to you?...

I felt your own response answered this better:


In your own mind ;)You didn't grasp what I stated. My counter-points are very clearly outlined, unless you agree that the force behind creation has no moral basis, and that morality is a finite concept, which you were maintaining as not true in a prior thread. Appears all too much like a flip-flop.


I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean the hidden cosmic hands guiding humanity? No, that wont change IMO unless it's all disclosed and we become sovereign.

If you can elaborate on what the cosmic forces are specifically and what their agendas are, in detail, without nebulous language or implying in any way that you don't know for certain, then sure.

All I get from reading into these subjects is that nobody knows to the highest degree, at best it involves 4D or maybe 5D 'malevolent entities' who may/may not be behind the elite, and that is about the scope of it. People hide behind ambiguities because it allows them room to shift perspectives without admitting they could be wrong, to behave pretentiously somehow, etc...


I'd say it's a fair assessment to say humanity's leadership is wholly corrupted. So your as above so below analogy confirms my beliefs in the area.

You dodged the rest of what I typed up and you accepted an amoral creation without accepting that it can also exist at all levels, including in the present. This is also another inconsistency.


It is a direct result of you not being aware that ET races in the universe are often well summed up by the dark and light. Obviously it is more complicated than that but I've come to grips with using language(words) in a concise manner to convey what I mean. I can't say "Almost all benevolent, almost all enlightened, almost all reasonable with pockets of more undeveloped people races" can I?

Yet again, you are making assumptions while misinterpreting what I am putting fourth. Your failure to adequately understand my points is not my problem.

Questioning the 'malevolent/benevolent' terms used does not equal not knowing about the subject, the same goes for the basis of creation, or the fact we as human beings are projecting a malevolent status on to non-human beings that could just as well apply to us.


If you aren't aware that the most advanced races have almost all unified in their agenda, and their space programs can be very easily summed up as malicious/self serving or altruistic/benevolent, this shows me you are not aware of the true picture. I apologize if that statement made you unhappy. It had nothing to do with new age stuff. If you are aware I am probably the biggest opposition to new age stuff on this forum since 2011.

...or that I don't agree with the point you are making.

Seems to me the only 'black and white' concrete fact here is how you are reading my responses and understanding them... or in other words, how you view reality, without accepting anything that exists beyond your own paradigm.



And it would be a mistake to assume the universe is an exact copy of what you witness on Earth.

What makes you think I am solely using Earth as an example? The time I am using it is to judge, on the very moral axis put fourth; that we are hypocritical, and if we're so quick to use what goes on here as a moral argument and to place ETs into labels of convenience, then why isn't a change taking place here from the 'benevolent group?'

The answer is because we are projecting, and this is including those who believe themselves to be more awoken than the 'average sheep.'


Nobody designed it in my mind. It has been part of an inner knowing throughout my life that has brought me to truth. For example when very young I could feel darkness on Earth, and embraced and identified with the light. After I learned what conspiracy was, I knew it was taking place from this inner guidance. If you take a look around at who rules the planet with clarity, they can easily be summed up as malicious. Same as ET race's leaderships in a large way(undeveloped races in a lesser way).

That only answers 'if it was designed', not the rest of it.

The rest of it, as is becoming clear, shows you have a confirmation bias for dualities. Just because they resonate with you, does not make them the ultimate truth. I outlined this in the linked post prior, and you did not give a reply that would do it justice.


Exopolitics means there is order. It isn't a free for all. If it was a free for all every potent activist would be killed and darkness would be 10x more powerful than it is now, because it is much easier to destroy life than it is to create it.

The basic scenario you just put fourth does not disprove my statement, and more on that; what good is that 'exopolitics' if it cannot make a coherent picture of our situation, or that tries to immediately put in place 'benevolent groups' without having done something that would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are good, and that is alleviating our present predicament?

Seems to be a level of naivety or gullibility in this.


What is conclusive? Are you projecting now? You seem to be saying I'm oversimplifying exopolitics by saying its polarities of dark and light. Now you are oversimplifying an entire race's comparison to another based on one action of one race, and all actions of another? Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't get your reasoning honestly.

I'm sorry, but please come back when you can adequately respond to what I said, and yes, your posts do show that everything is oversimplified into a dark vs light narrative, and its a narrative that ironically stems from flawed ancient mythology by the same beings claimed now in your own worldview to be malevolent.

So in retrospect, you are actually the one who is using a 3D Earth-bound conception of morality and reality in general, applying it to the cosmos at large, then projecting that I am doing it when I am clearly not.


If you seek to simplify a judgment of an entire race on one action, go ahead. I don't think it's sound reasoning personally.

That IS projection, right there, because you have begun this thread with putting a group into one category or another based on one act; abductions. I have done the opposite, to point out that is fallacious, and yet being championed as being an ultimate truth... which cannot stand when applied with a basic amount of logic.


So you have a problem with saying some advanced groups are benevolent? I don't get this either TBH... In no way is saying there are benevolent advanced sources out there saying they all are benevolent. In fact the title would lead one to think I mean there are both dark and light sources in the ET spectrum.

I have a problem with the entire process of thinking that brings these conclusions about, and yet again, you do not seem to appropriately comprehend the points I am putting fourth.

[mojo]

The Betty and Barney Hill case might be able to help shed some light. Even though they were taken they did not feel that it was negative. They kept Barney Hill under control for his own safety (or maybe theirs) Betty was free to talk and walk on her own. She said the ET told her all they wanted to do was perform an examination. There are about seven parts of the video...definitely if anyone hasn't watched it's a big recommend here...

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I posted this one below because at the 2 minute mark Betty shows a picture of the UFO landed very cool...
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[Apophenia]

The Betty and Barney Hill case might be able help shed some light. [snip]

Thanks for the listed example, and yes, people can list examples that go any which way... good, bad, indifferent, etc... I simply reserve judgement on this.

From my perspective, I don't want to get too far into experiences as they are personal, subjective, and are up to people to accept or reject them as they wish, and I do have a few circumstances where the acts done were benevolent, by Greys of course, or whoever might be shapeshifting in their stead, and one neutral example, where it was both give and take.

These did not happen to me, but people very close to me.

[mojo]

From my perspective, I don't want to get too far into experiences as they are personal, subjective, and are up to people to accept or reject them as they wish, and I do have a few circumstances where the acts done were benevolent, by Greys of course, or whoever might be shapeshifting in their stead, and one neutral example, where it was both give and take.

Good point it is a personal thing and do have some personal experience but also think video or other trace evidence is not subjective. I feel that evidence helps others to be more accepting to the testimony. Maybe it's our openness on Avalon that makes the difference? Not sure I would have shared much otherwise.

[yelik]

Good article Omni, as usual

The evidence for abductions is overwhelming, some done by us. Broadly speaking it does seem wrong, but us humans would be the first to carryout exhaustive studies if we came across a primitive race.

Whilst I would not fancy being adducted or tinkered with I'm not sure what we can do about it until the negative influence has been banished from earth, although that's easier said than done until we get more widespread awareness. This appears someway off due to mass mind control and deception programs in place.

As an example, my eldest daughter works for a large corporate accounting firm where she's doing quite well, she knows about this stuff but doesn't want to talk about it because it distracts her from the arduous work load and rewards. It's as if she's content with the deception and remain a custodian of the 'system'. I think professional well educated people are content with their rewards and fear losing it so they tend to shun all the conspiracy stuff. I'm quite convinced there is a hive mind like mentality present in Governments and large corporations, wonder where thats from!!!

We've discussed before the Universe has dark and light, fairness, and unfairness which is in balance, they all have equal power; but, we are easily controlled through fear and threats because of our survival instincts. If everyone was aware that only our physical body dies and our soul carries on then these threats would no longer work.

Because of all different ET groups involved with different Governments we live in a rather chaotic environment as games of power are played out on and off earth. In one sense this wide involvement with different ET groups has likely prevented earth from being fully enslaved by a more advanced negative group, such as the Reptilians.

[ghostrider]

the good guys just talk to you face to face , the kidnappers have something to hide ... like they work in conjunction with our secret military ... we can't have you waking up and seeing a fellow earth human aboard , we should probably keep you drugged and your mind cloudy and do a mental block just in case , wipe your memory ... also ET spaceships don't harm the environment , while secret spaceships built here give off radiation and do harm the environment ...

[WhiteLove]

The Betty and Barney Hill case might be able to help shed some light. Even though they were taken they did not feel that it was negative. They kept Barney Hill under control for his own safety (or maybe theirs) Betty was free to talk and walk on her own. She said the ET told her all they wanted to do was perform an examination. There are about seven parts of the video...definitely if anyone hasn't watched it's a big recommend here...

3g93YoWsHjU

I posted this one below because at the 2 minute mark Betty shows a picture of the UFO landed very cool...
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Man, incredible share. That was as hard as evidence can get... This must be one of the most remarkable testimony of ET life ever to have been captured on film, a million thanks!!

[TrumanCash]

Thanks for reminding people that not all ETs are benevolent, Omni.

Two people who are repeatedly stating the propganda that all ETs are benevolent are Steven Greer and Carol Rosin. I wrote my response to a recent post regarding Carol Rosin here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87096-Carol-Rosin-and-The-Last-Card...-Cold-war-Terror-Asteroids-then-ETs&p=1023901&viewfull=1#post1023901).

TLC