Rising Sea Level and the Coming Coastal Crisis 2015 [Archive]

giovonni

28th November 2015, 21:53

will share this here ...

Rising Sea Level and the Coming Coastal Crisis 2015

James Swagger with John Englander

For 6,000 years sea level has changed little. Now it it has started rising again, moving the shoreline too. In clear, easy-to-understand language, this book explains: * The science behind sea level rise, plus the myths and partial truths used to confuse the issue. * The surprising forces that will cause sea level to rise for 1,000 years, as well as the possibility of catastrophic rise this century. * Why the devastating economic effects will not be limited to the coasts. * Why coastal property values will go “underwater” long before the land does, perhaps as early as this decade.

John Englander is predicting the next devastating effects of climate change and rising sea levels around the world.

You’ll also hear in plain English why sea levels will rise over the next 50 years — and what this coming coastal crisis means for you.

Bio

John Englander is an oceanographer, consultant and sea level rise expert. His broad marine science background coupled with degrees in geology and economics allows him to see the big picture on climate and look ahead to the large-scale financial and societal impacts, particularly as they relate to sea level rise. He brings the diverse points of view of an industry scientist, entrepreneur and CEO.

For over 30 years, he has been a leader in both the private sector and the non-profit arena, serving as CEO for such noteworthy organizations as The Cousteau Society and The International SeaKeepers Society. As the Founder of the Rising Seas Group, he works with businesses, government agencies, and communities helping them understand the financial risks of sea level rise.

His best selling book, High Tide On Main Street: Rising Sea Level and the Coming Coastal Crisis, clearly explains the science behind sea level rise, the impending devastating economic impacts and the "intelligent adaptation" that all businesses and coastal communities must consider today.

Mr. Englander is a sought after keynote speaker. His recent media appearances include MSNBC, Fox Business Channel, Al Jazeera America, ABC, CCTV (China), National Public Radio (NPR), and SkyNews TV-UK. He has been featured in USA Today, Huffington Post, the San Francisco Chronicle, and Publisher’s Weekly.

Website: http://www.johnenglander.net/

Published on Nov 28, 2015

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKfimdoLnOo

Benimal

29th November 2015, 02:59

Thanks so much for sharing Giovonni. This is an extremely important issue. Low lying islands like Tinau and Kiribati are already being claimed by sea level rise. What's absurd is that, even though people are already losing their homes, the UN refuses to recognize the existence of climate change refugees.

ghostrider

29th November 2015, 03:20

the ET's say many islands will sink due to rising sea levels , with the ice melting at the polar caps ... I remember a while back the entire permafrost of Greenland melted in three days ... they claim overpopulation is the main culprit , too many humans exhaling , while cloudy skies keep that dangerous gas from normal processes ... it reminds me of Mars , Mars lost it's atmosphere and the humans there were forced to escape to Earth ... we repeat the same mistakes , war , overpopulation , along with cosmic forces , Earth could lose it's atmosphere ... we also could have a big event from the little hiccup most have forgotten about - the Fukushima cores ( thee of them) total meltdowns working their way through the Earth , we'll see massive volcano eruptions and sea quakes ...

Benimal

29th November 2015, 03:37

That makes a lot of sense ghostrider. Overpopulation is at the root of the environmental crisis. Our planet simply can't support us with our tendencies of over-consumption and over-reproduction.

Flash

29th November 2015, 03:51

That makes a lot of sense ghostrider. Overpopulation is at the root of the environmental crisis. Our planet simply can't support us with our tendencies of over-consumption and over-reproduction.

our planet could support still more people IF we were consuming to our needs only and IF we had the god dam free energy the black projects already have created and get rid of the fossil fuel that makes the Bush family, Netanyahu and ex vice president of the USA+ rockerfellers very rich and fills their greed for power.

Sincerely, our planet can lodge and feed 9 billions within the right condiions, all the science is already there to help, it is the political and economic motivations that are not there. GREED GREED GREED

giovonni

29th November 2015, 04:35

Note this kind of recent gov/policy activity doesn't help matters either ... :rolleyes:

Montreal begins controversial sewage dump into St Lawrence river (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/11/montreal-begins-controversial-sewage-dump-into-st-lawrence-river)

ks4ever

29th November 2015, 06:54

As an archaeologist I studied sea levels when I was doing my degree back in 2008 by analyzing the biological indicators around the coast lines and dating them. Sea levels have not been relatively constant over the last 6,000 years as is stated. In the Southern hemisphere sea levels in Australia, Africa and South America 3,500 years ago were 1.7 metres higher than they are today, while 1,500 years ago the sea level was 0.900 metres higher than today. At one point in time sea levels were up to thirty metres higher, but there were no biological indicators that we could date to give us the timing of this event. Sea levels between 30,000 - 14,000 years ago were up to 90 metres lower. In the last Century sea levels rose only two centimetres in the southern hemisphere.
This is backed by good science so don't believe a lot of claims that have been stated in the public domain. "Ocean Levels are not Constant and never have been."

giovonni

29th November 2015, 07:09

giovonni

29th November 2015, 07:58

Hym

29th November 2015, 18:41

ks4rever's report here, even in it's brevity (out of necessity), is more accurate than ANYTHING any "study"modern governmental, scholastic institutional entity puts out. I have hundreds of scientific papers, hundreds of videos and thousands of photographs proving the manipulation of data about the climate, manipulation by the IPCC ("Climate Gate",etc.), NOAA, and others. In fact I now have to limit my writing because I have to transfer over 150 GB of data onto another ext.HD to preserve these studies, the vast amount of articles showing the truths and the deception of our perceptions.

Funny that these same corporations have had the technology for decades and still haven't made them available.
Take GM, which had a carburetor that got 100MPG in 1935 and was warned by the oil giants not to manufacture it or their promise of the 200MPG carb. by 1940, is a good example. In fact some of the first Ford models were made to run off of bio-fuel and gas alike, as an accommodation for the many farmers in the country.

In simple terms, the phrase "Global Warming" was changed to "Climate Change" in part because there are so many studies proving that the earth hasn't warmed at all in over 18 years. The liars had to (climate) change the manipulative phrase, maybe now because it is so easy to search for opposing facts on the internet. It's the Sun cycles, geo-engineering (http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/) and the very cyclical power of the magnetic frequency changes in and about the earth itself that are the massive forces of change on any planet.

If it's global warming then stick to the phrase. After those of us in these fields stopped laughing about the blatant stupidity, the ambiguity of the new phrase "climate change", we all knew that the long, ongoing politics of global manipulation had just changed it's sign and we then knew what the liars were selling. Saying "climate change" when referring to the myth of man-made global warming is a manipulation and it should raise a high amount of concern to the listener as to why something so seemingly factual, "Global Warming", backed up by so many scientists and their "climate models", should have it's terminology changed.
Of course the climate is changing, just as the earth spins and birds fly, plants and animals breathe and we go thru cycles of weather variance. I like it. It makes the earth an interesting place to live.

What is lost in the mix is our media trained thought process thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with the lie put out there is from some opposing force with a financial or political interest in opposing it, when in reality it is just those of us who live by the facts, in their amazing, infinite possibilities, who have to step back and shake our heads in the face of how manipulated public views are. The fact is that it is not as important now that some areas have rising waters, that many glaciers are melting and that the Antarctic, at the same time, has increased dramatically in ice volume, but how that information is used for manipulating global, corporo-governmental policy towards international, national and, ultimately , personal control of our lives. Facing the issues of over-population, the pollution of the lands, waters and skies, genetic destruction and hybridization all go hand in hand, as they always have while adapting to weather cycles. That is life on this planet.

Those AyHoles who control much of the economics and social tragedies on this planet are extremely concerned about the planet, but their concern is only for themselves and their dark masters. Some of them are even vegetarians. Some use only homeopathy and herbs for curing their ills. Some of them are very spiritual, except that the spirits they engage with, on a real visceral level, are some dark f.f.'ers. Still, it is their form of spirituality and atheists I would not consider them, at all.

Do you see how the words and their meanings are so manipulated? In fact if I were to teach again in my chosen field I would make at least a quarter of my teaching on the manipulation of truths by institutions, as a requisite to real world realization of sustainable goals. I will do so because I think leading anyone with such deep core beliefs and a committed lifestyle, without telling them the high possibilities of never seeing their goals realized, is a crime of omission. As it was, we all did have, in and out of class, discussions on how to seek out and verify the truth of a system or a theory, as well as how to track back to the original source of a deceptive, manipulated or false narrative. Because our hands-on works dominated our studies, our consensus on our initial perceptions of how the fields of RE,ST,FE(O-P, 'free' energy) were/are being manipulated was, upon much study, very accurate. The funds, from corporate foundations, go to the institutions and their directors, while the studies are often manipulated. No one cared that we cared as were in the processes of making the world a better place.

Many of us who have spent some lengthy time in collegiate studies and teaching in Renewable Energy, Sustainable Technologies, Bio-Fuels and Earthbuilding have found out that the governments and institutions don't give a **** about actually implementing anything that disrupts the flow of oil, unless that corporate-controlled entity controls the technology or process that replaces it. Period. In my studies, which are now over if I have to connect to any university and the lies they sell, it was interesting to see the debates that we as informed students (and then teachers) had with our teachers because there is way too much factual data to not see the entirety of our studies having a political, thus corporate controlled, element guiding and limiting the implementation of renewable technologies, let alone the taboo of free energy applications. It is not useless to enter into those fields. It is extremely limited and disheartening if you give a F&#$ about making a real difference, following a passion to make this world a better place, or even to have a career in these related fields.

I'll share a secret with you, a secret hard won in the midst of my constant excitement about learning new skills, but quite obvious at that. Sustainability is 70+% about conservation of energy. Insulate. Re-use. Use the sun's energy. Utilize earth materials. Use the geo-thermal variance for heating and cooling. Get your ass outside and force yourself to connect with the earth if you have to.
When you evaluate the land, listen to the energies that run in it, the frequencies, the waters that run beneath it, the people and animals-most all wildlife to me, as you evaluate your use and conservation of the natural resources at hand.

It's not lost on me that having limited funds while excelling in my studies (4.0+gpa, 27-35 units a semester, teaching while studying, volunteering, etc.) intensified my own personal conservation habits. Instead of this country and others having a booming market for those graduating in this field of study, with masters and doctoral degrees in hand, there are but a few in this field. The truth is in the low numbers. The common men and women care a lot about the state of affairs we are in, but most governments and their cohorts don't.

My suggestion is to read Rosa Koire's "Behind The Green Mask" and Christopher Clark's "Triumph of Consciousness" to easily get a much fuller picture of the truth. Educate yourself on Agenda 21, the UN's mandate for global enslavement. It is being implemented all over the socio-economic and political spectrum worldwide and has been around for decades. Right now the pseudo-climate summit is all about the overt takeover of human rights by giving international corporations sovereignty over all nations and the rights of their citizens to be free from slavery, slavery of all types. This is being done under the guise of stopping global warming.

It is being done by their creation, funding and marketing of the terrorist state, when in reality they themselves by mere definition have always been the terrorist state, personified and deified within the hollow shells of their souls.

It is being done, not because any of us in our great good will and lives of service are a threat to them. Quite the contrary, as we give all who live in peace a chance. It is because we are awake to the nightmare they have created, within the dream that is humanity and the reality of the possibilities that we are in control ourselves. So be it.

Study.

Hazelfern

29th November 2015, 19:03

Note my family has coastal property on the East Coastal (US) and we have personal witness/experience of this current rising sea phenomena ... For at least the last ten years the coastal waters have been alarmingly rising along the Mid Atlantic region and have caused lots of concern for multiple local affected communities and governments agencies ... Below is a related issue story item ...

Atlantic Surging, Virginia Sinking
(http://prospect.org/article/atlantic-surging-virginia-sinking)

more info ...

Sea-Level-Rise Scenarios (http://www.vims.edu/newsandevents/topstories/slr_scenarios.php)

Note - I can't speak personally of whats occurring in other parts of the world, but it appears
something globally is causing the ocean/sea's to rise alarmingly fast ?

From the 1st link:
Rising sea level in Norfolk threatens the town, the Navy, and a state in denial.
I also know people in complete denial on the east coast, buying and building right on the edge.

I have no facts, just the feeling that we will all see the coast lines (as we know them) disappear almost overnight.

I am no fun at a party, I wish I could shake the feeling.

onawah

29th November 2015, 19:27

I think this information would make for a great new thread.
And I would add to it some good information from Dr. Mark Sircus such as these articles:
http://drsircus.com/world-news/climate-change-pathology/
http://drsircus.com/world-news/climate-change-2/
http://drsircus.com/world-news/global-warming-largest-science-scandal-in-us-history/
...complete with charts, videos, links etc.

ks4rever's report here, even in it's brevity (out of necessity), is more accurate than ANYTHING any "study"modern governmental, scholastic institutional entity puts out. I have hundreds of scientific papers, hundreds of videos and thousands of photographs proving the manipulation of data about the climate, manipulation by the IPCC ("Climate Gate",etc.), NOAA, and others. In fact I now have to limit my writing because I have to transfer over 150 GB of data onto another ext.HD to preserve these studies, the vast amount of articles showing the truths and the deception of our perceptions.

Funny that these same corporations have had the technology for decades and still haven't made them available.
Take GM, which had a carburetor that got 100MPG in 1935 and was warned by the oil giants not to manufacture it or their promise of the 200MPG carb. by 1940, is a good example. In fact some of the first Ford models were made to run off of bio-fuel and gas alike, as an accommodation for the many farmers in the country.

In simple terms, the phrase "Global Warming" was changed to "Climate Change" in part because there are so many studies proving that the earth hasn't warmed at all in over 18 years. The liars had to (climate) change the manipulative phrase, maybe now because it is so easy to search for opposing facts on the internet. It's the Sun cycles, geo-engineering (http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/) and the very cyclical power of the magnetic frequency changes in and about the earth itself that are the massive forces of change on any planet.

If it's global warming then stick to the phrase. After those of us in these fields stopped laughing about the blatant stupidity, the ambiguity of the new phrase "climate change", we all knew that the long, ongoing politics of global manipulation had just changed it's sign and we then knew what the liars were selling. Saying "climate change" when referring to the myth of man-made global warming is a manipulation and it should raise a high amount of concern to the listener as to why something so seemingly factual, "Global Warming", backed up by so many scientists and their "climate models", should have it's terminology changed.
Of course the climate is changing, just as the earth spins and birds fly, plants and animals breathe and we go thru cycles of weather variance. I like it. It makes the earth an interesting place to live.

What is lost in the mix is our media trained thought process thinking that anyone who doesn't agree with the lie put out there is from some opposing force with a financial or political interest in opposing it, when in reality it is just those of us who live by the facts, in their amazing, infinite possibilities, who have to step back and shake our heads in the face of how manipulated public views are. The fact is that it is not as important now that some areas have rising waters, that many glaciers are melting and that the Antarctic, at the same time, has increased dramatically in ice volume, but how that information is used for manipulating global, corporo-governmental policy towards international, national and, ultimately , personal control of our lives. Facing the issues of over-population, the pollution of the lands, waters and skies, genetic destruction and hybridization all go hand in hand, as they always have while adapting to weather cycles. That is life on this planet.

Those AyHoles who control much of the economics and social tragedies on this planet are extremely concerned about the planet, but their concern is only for themselves and their dark masters. Some of them are even vegetarians. Some use only homeopathy and herbs for curing their ills. Some of them are very spiritual, except that the spirits they engage with, on a real visceral level, are some dark f.f.'ers. Still, it is their form of spirituality and atheists I would not consider them, at all.

Do you see how the words and their meanings are so manipulated? In fact if I were to teach again in my chosen field I would make at least a quarter of my teaching on the manipulation of truths by institutions, as a requisite to real world realization of sustainable goals. I will do so because I think leading anyone with such deep core beliefs and a committed lifestyle, without telling them the high possibilities of never seeing their goals realized, is a crime of omission. As it was, we all did have, in and out of class, discussions on how to seek out and verify the truth of a system or a theory, as well as how to track back to the original source of a deceptive, manipulated or false narrative. Because our hands-on works dominated our studies, our consensus on our initial perceptions of how the fields of RE,ST,FE(O-P, 'free' energy) were/are being manipulated was, upon much study, very accurate. The funds, from corporate foundations, go to the institutions and their directors, while the studies are often manipulated. No one cared that we cared as were in the processes of making the world a better place.

Many of us who have spent some lengthy time in collegiate studies and teaching in Renewable Energy, Sustainable Technologies, Bio-Fuels and Earthbuilding have found out that the governments and institutions don't give a **** about actually implementing anything that disrupts the flow of oil, unless that corporate-controlled entity controls the technology or process that replaces it. Period. In my studies, which are now over if I have to connect to any university and the lies they sell, it was interesting to see the debates that we as informed students (and then teachers) had with our teachers because there is way too much factual data to not see the entirety of our studies having a political, thus corporate controlled, element guiding and limiting the implementation of renewable technologies, let alone the taboo of free energy applications. It is not useless to enter into those fields. It is extremely limited and disheartening if you give a F&#$ about making a real difference, following a passion to make this world a better place, or even to have a career in these related fields.

I'll share a secret with you, a secret hard won in the midst of my constant excitement about learning new skills, but quite obvious at that. Sustainability is 70+% about conservation of energy. Insulate. Re-use. Use the sun's energy. Utilize earth materials. Use the geo-thermal variance for heating and cooling. Get your ass outside and force yourself to connect with the earth if you have to.
When you evaluate the land, listen to the energies that run in it, the frequencies, the waters that run beneath it, the people and animals-most all wildlife to me, as you evaluate your use and conservation of the natural resources at hand.

It's not lost on me that having limited funds while excelling in my studies (4.0+gpa, 27-35 units a semester, teaching while studying, volunteering, etc.) intensified my own personal conservation habits. Instead of this country and others having a booming market for those graduating in this field of study, with masters and doctoral degrees in hand, there are but a few in this field. The truth is in the low numbers. The common men and women care a lot about the state of affairs we are in, but most governments and their cohorts don't.

My suggestion is to read Rosa Koire's "Behind The Green Mask" and Christopher Clark's "Triumph of Consciousness" to easily get a much fuller picture of the truth. Educate yourself on Agenda 21, the UN's mandate for global enslavement. It is being implemented all over the socio-economic and political spectrum worldwide and has been around for decades. Right now the pseudo-climate summit is all about the overt takeover of human rights by giving international corporations sovereignty over all nations and the rights of their citizens to be free from slavery, slavery of all types. This is being done under the guise of stopping global warming.

It is being done by their creation, funding and marketing of the terrorist state, when in reality they themselves by mere definition have always been the terrorist state, personified and deified within the hollow shells of their souls.

It is being done, not because any of us in our great good will and lives of service are a threat to them. Quite the contrary, as we give all who live in peace a chance. It is because we are awake to the nightmare they have created, within the dream that is humanity and the reality of the possibilities that we are in control ourselves. So be it.

Study.

Cidersomerset

29th November 2015, 19:41

I don't really know enough about this topic to give an opinion other than there is
the usual financial scams going on. Its been reported all the planets in our solar
system have been warming up including Earth. But how far global warming is
effected by pollutants , chemtrails and animal flatulence or other human activities.

I don't know ?

There are several articles on the BBC webpage...

Six graphics that explain climate change

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-5aceb360-8bc3-4741-99f0-2e4f76ca02bb

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Dinosaur Farts To Blame for Global Warming?

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France Uses Emergency Laws to Put Climate Activists Under House Arrest for Planning to Protest

By David Icke on 29th November 2015

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87128-You-Are-Watching-A-Movie----Called-World-War-III-D-Icke..-Problem-Reaction-Sollution---fear-fear-fear-&p=1024376&viewfull=1#post1024376

Hym

29th November 2015, 20:05

Thank You, Onawah.

The links you gave are excellent. They should at least give another viewpoint on what this subject is all about. It is what we always tell others new to a subject that is highly political, but should only be about the facts, the science of it all. Do your research. Trust yourself and you will see another viewpoint. Always question the opposition. If you don't you're most likely being manipulated.

I attended a college student council meeting and one of the subjects brought up was the installation of a cell tower on campus that would generate over $30,000 a year in lease fees for the college. I opposed the installation and gave more than a few reasons, noting studies on the dangers of e.m. pollution. My short talk was taken as very convincing and the initial consensus was to have me, instead of the representative of a cell company, make a presentation to the council and students. I disagreed that I should be the only one making a presentation. After all, they were all in college, and it should be their learned habit, their professionalism and balanced outlook to have such a diverse debate between the cell co. rep. and me. We often need to see what and why something isn't quite right. Yes, at times it is a drag, but the most annoying thing is the pretext of knowledge when it is used to manipulate and gloss over the truth.

The coolest thing about telling someone to always look at both sides is who some of them become, with their new knowledge base, and how they often are so pissed at being lied to that they take on presenting their new found truths to as many as possible. Such is the case of Dutch Since, the man who revealed to us how HAARP was being used and who then taught us how to read the usgs weather maps that show the making of storms and droughts. His warnings have saved lives.
I knew about this in the 80's and never thought that it would be exposed the way it has, but then.......I had an encounter with a mother.....

onawah

29th November 2015, 20:34

Luckily for us, mothers can be indomitable forces! More and more so, hopefully....
I wish we had had you, Hey, at our town council meeting when the debate was going on as to whether or not to erect a new cell phone tower, right smack in the middle of our beautiful downtown, historic district.
The company that was selling it got it in on a technicality, but if more people had been paying closer attention, that could have been prevented.
Dr. Sircus is a good man, with lots to say on a number of issues, definitely including climate change.
It seems to me like it may be an effective globalist strategy for depopulation to hoodwink people into paying lots of attention to "global warming" when what we should perhaps be doing instead is preparing for a mini ice-age.
But it may be even more likely that no one really knows what is going to happen, since there are some unprecedented factors, as well as unpredictable ones.

Hervé

29th November 2015, 21:33

Hym

29th November 2015, 22:01

(Latest Edit)
Boy, am i off topic here.....Sorry....about this...I veered off course because i saw the general topic being the manipulation of media...While it is so, my post is misplaced and like Onawah suggests in a PM he sent, this would best be served in another thread. It's about the weather, dude. I'll leave it in this time, but have no problem if the mods remove it....

Onawah. There is a book "Dirty Electricity" by Samuel Milham, MD, MPH that addresses your concerns, somethings that affect us all. (It is only about $8 online for a softcover book). His vast years as a medical researcher, professor, published author and consultant on the dangers of ElectroMagnetic pollution, WiFi, power generators, etc. qualify his works as expert in the field. Watch his posted videos and read some of his papers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh2rq3-DbRs&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAgNHirQhxc&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_bMTOIH1z0

He has advised schools not to use wifi and states exactly why not. The dangers are so high and the liability is so large for schools, that you'll hear him talk about the publication of his tests and the advice he gives schools used as false grounds to accuse him of criminal activity simply for testing, merely by using outlets in the school.

If you want to find cancer in any area with electricity follow the high power lines. In close proximity to those lines you'll find a 35%+ increase in childhood leukemia. Turn on your a.m. radio in your car and drive into any area where the static gets louder. Stay away. That's the signature of high EM activity. The same goes for any DC generation, be it an island power station or large windmills.

Specifically, there is a Cell Tower attached to a water tower at a remote local college that we attended 3 years ago. It is now, the college, thankfully not in use, but the tower is still drawing income for this college (not the other college I referred to earlier). It was easy for me to connect the student councilor's ovarian cancer, the maintenance man's brain cancer and our dept. heads facial skin carcinoma, as well as a cafeteria worker's cancer to the tower that is a mere 100 to 200 feet away and pointed directly at the two buildings where they spent their days. This was over 1/3rd, and most likely more, of the college's staff! The times I had to teach in the 3rd story classroom I planned as much time outdoors teaching as I could.

The anecdotal incidents and the science are both overwhelming.
By '05 many oncologists made the connection that the cell industry had hidden from years of study:
In fact when a child came into an office with a headache on one side it was wise for a doctor to guess that that was the side where a young adult was overusing their cell phone. The pictures of brain scans show the penetration of the em signal much deeper into the undeveloped brains of children and teenagers alike. It's a sad note to the coverups of corporate malfeasance.

amor

30th November 2015, 03:38

Go to Stopthecrime.net/source articles and you will read the Think Tank Government Plans to radiate the population to death SILENTLY. The cell phone users will soon become zombies, the children at school using WiFi will be sterilized and dying of cancers and alheimer's disease, etc. All part of global genocide. So, when they stop the old fashioned telephone, I will get used to using no telephone again. The Cell Towers need to be sawed down by citizens!

waves

30th November 2015, 07:03

giovonni

30th November 2015, 07:04

Bottom line the water is rising ... :)

Hym

30th November 2015, 07:46

Look deeper my friend. Go to the last 2 months of Davidicke.com and find just a few of the many references on the manipulation of the scientific data and the politics that drive them.

As for me, the first startling fact I found years ago was the fact that the number of weather stations in the states were cut to 50% of their yearly level, from over 6,000 to less than 3,000. The majority of those stations that were removed had been placed in colder climates. I also saw many photos of the placement of these small weather measuring units in places where the temperature had to be higher because of the placement. They were placed behind many air conditioning units outside of buildings where the air from the unit is very hot. They were often placed surrounded by asphalt at the edge of parking lots. This is a blatant twisting of data to "record" manipulated environments.

Like Cliff Carnicom, of the Carnicom Institute, said to a very vociferous and biased student at a talk he held for one of our classes, the discussion is best held after you have read all of the science provided. (Although he said it in a much more terse and less politically correct manner, we all, especially the right wing student, got the impact of Cliff's right to be treated with respect for the 100+ studies he had published, based upon the studies alone and not conjecture or political deceit.)

Because of the truth of sea rise and fall, you may miss the intent and direction of the political diversion being presented. I will go and use any skill I have to help when the sea rises, or falls, but I will not be a part of giving my rights away for the false solution that is given by any pseudo-governmental, fascist policy.

giovonni

30th November 2015, 07:56

Thanks Hey it's me for your opinion.

Sunny

30th November 2015, 08:27

Bottom line the water is rising ... :)

I too have personal experience of changes in tides and sea levels. I live on an island in Fiji (Southern Hemisphere). In the last 10 years, the high tides have gotten higher. There is erosion on the beach and the water is coming further inland. My personal presumption is that a sea level rise is occuring. It is something Pacific island nations are discussing and are concerned about.

Cidersomerset

30th November 2015, 13:19

Where there is no doubt climate and weather changes exist, I remember being
told at school and on the news and media in the 1970's and 80's we were
approaching a new Ice age

Like a lot of these events its who takes over the agenda and manipulates it
that is the main problem. I live on a flood plain on the Somerset levels and
we had terrible floods only a year or so ago, so this is an on going problem
it would be nice for it to be sorted out by real independent scientists and researchers..

The Levels flooded 2014
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/06/article-2534511-1A73EA4500000578-313_964x523.jpg

I have been watching the BBC America production of the Last Kingdom about
King Alfred of Wessex and his struggle with the Danes.Part of which led him
to hide out in the Somerset marches which were flooded back then , and the
legend of him burning the cakes and being scolded by the farmers wife.

I cannot find the clip from the show , but if you like historic 'faction' history
and fiction combined its a very good adventure series imo....

King Alfred the Somerset levels and a birth of a nation......

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?68092-King-Alfred-the-Somerset-levels-and-a-birth-of-a-nation......

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COP21: Putin speaks at Paris Climate Change Conference (ENGLISH TRANSLATION)

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Streamed live on 30 Nov 2015

Russian President addresses Paris Climate Change Conference

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What is climate change?

BBC.....

22 October 2015

From the section Science & Environment

Short vid on link...below

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24021772

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Paris Climate Criminals Ignore Record Arctic Ice Growth

By David Icke on 30th November 2015

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Instead of an ice-free Arctic, we just had the shortest melt season on
record – followed by record sea ice growth. Arctic sea ice extent is the
highest for the date since at least 2004.

Criminals at the New York Times and Guardian told us recently that
Greenland is melting much faster than previously feared. In fact,
Greenland’s surface is gaining record amounts of ice, with 250 billion
tons of new ice over the last three months.’

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https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/paris-climate-criminals-ignore-record-arctic-ice-growth/

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The Paris Climate Talks Will Emit 300,000 Tons of CO2, by Our Math. Hope It’s Worth It

By David Icke on 30th November 2015

http://www.wired.com/2015/11/the-paris-talks-could-produce-300000-tons-of-co2-hope-theyre-worth-it/

giovonni

30th November 2015, 13:40

Call it whatever you like ...

Something is terribly wrong with the global weather ...

Smog in China makes breathing hard for residents in Beijing

Residents told to stay indoors as China's capital Beijing maintains an "orange" pollution alert.
Report by Claire Mewse.

Published on Nov 30, 2015

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie7sWW0P6iU

Hervé

30th November 2015, 13:48

[...]
... don't believe a lot of claims that have been stated in the public domain. "Ocean Levels are not Constant and never have been."

... especially CEOs of companies selling consulting services (http://www.lapalma-tsunami.com/notes.html), e.g.:

As the Founder of the Rising Seas Group, he works with businesses, government agencies, and communities helping them understand the financial risks of sea level rise.The one thing these scaremongers omit to specify is the "subsidence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidence)" phenomenon.

Sea level is sea level and if some grounds show subsidence whereas others show uplifts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_uplift) for the same period... time to scratch one's head!

If there actually were sea level rises, it would be uniform across the globe. So, how come I don't see the same amount of sea rise on the coast I live nearby?

Simple: sea level is sea level and therefore, the islands used as text-book case for sea level rise are actually sinking! The similarity of the end results is what is played on to confuse people on the "global warming" political agenda.

In that same vein, there is also a confusion that's being kept alive for political and "intelligence" reasons and that's the use of the term "climate change" instead of the more accurate term of "weather change"... see? Because "weather" is very controllable whereas "climate" leaves one with the impression one cannot do anything about it because it's too "big" and "natural."

The trouble with the above geological phenomena of local subsidences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsidence) and uplifts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_uplift) and landmasses moving below or above the mean elevation of the earth geoid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoid) is that it is amplified with what is called "Tidal Wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_surge)" as a result of a weather/atmospheric phenomenon of an increased difference between high and low pressure system due to weather manipulations.

A high pressure weather system pushes down the sea-level concomitant to that same ocean/sea being "sucked" higher up with low pressure systems at the edges of the high pressure system.

The suspected manipulation of the weather consists in increasing/amplifying the strength of these weather/atmospheric systems by increasing the differential between high and low pressures via the heat gradient between these systems. The end results being that the low pressure storms have increased in strength and violence.

A reminder:

What was definitely NOT used:

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Groningen, zondag 6 februari 2011

Veteran weather modification expert Ben Livingston is a former Navy Physicist who briefed President Lyndon B. Johnson on the effectiveness of weather control back in the 1960's during the Vietnam era, when he was involved in cloud seeding programs that worked to slow down the advance of Vietnamese and Korean troops. Livingston asserts that hurricane control was a national priority of the government more than 40 years ago and that the technology was fully operational to control the weather at the time.

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In this exclusive interview, Livingston explains how for decades the US government has had the power to both lessen and increase the severity of adverse weather for their own purposes.

Dr. Livingston was assigned in 1966 from the Naval weapons research Laboratory to a marine fighter squadron in Vietnam. Instead of guns, the aircraft under Livingston's control were fitted with cloud seeding equipment. "My mission was to find clouds and seed them for maximum precipitation value" he stated.

Dr. Livingston presents evidence from the Stanford research Institute, who were brought into Project Storm Fury (http://www.opsecnews.com/operation-popeye-weaponized-weather-during-vietnam-war/) (a weather control program) in the late sixties as a third party, which stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life. Four decades later and Livingston exposes how the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina could have been greatly minimized but was allowed to fully impact Gulf states for political reasons.

Having personally flown on 265 missions into the eyes of hurricanes, Livingston remarks that he was "disgusted" by the failure to lessen the impact of Katrina. Livingston's revelations that weather control has been a decades long program in which the US government has been deeply involved are particularly alarming given the abundant modern-day evidence of how chemtrails are being used to warp our environment in a secret geoengineering plot that threatens a myriad of unknown human health and ecological consequences.
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... and so was Sandy allowed to strike at the maximum cranked up power that could be mustered to re-instilled some trust into the "medias"... "When we tell you to evacuate: just do it!"

The following statement:

Project Storm Fury [...] stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life.

... carries with it the terrible corollary that, by the same token, they also know what starts or amplifies a storm into a hurricane... just pure, practical logic!

Couple that with the report that military planes were flying around at the time Sandy hit the coast... along with the fact that storms are Navy's and Air Force's allies in demoralizing the "enemy" in any wars since Vietnam... who's the enemy now?
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Hence, the tie-in with "Weather Modifications" AKA "Climate Change."

giovonni

30th November 2015, 14:03

Here's an interesting item I posted yesterday on another thread ...
With no doubts we as world citizens will pay for all this weather change.

will share this here ...

Global CO2 Flight Tax, Individual Cost per Flight Breakdown | Mini Ice Age 2015-2035 (112)

There is a plan that will be vote on in the 2015 Paris Climate talks, which will issue a global CO2 tax for each flight you take globally each year. Your first flight is free, after that you will need to pay a graduated tax for each flight. Here is the doll per flight breakdown.

Published on Nov 29, 2015

referenced news items listed below youtube show notes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiDJj7rSZ4s&feature=em-uploademail

giovonni

30th November 2015, 14:23

Whereas I don't necessary agree with every posted item on this thread,
I do appreciate and thank everyone for contributing here.:thumb:

jake gittes

30th November 2015, 17:07

Thanks, ks4ever, flash, & Hey it's me, for countering fear porn fiction with facts.

If people want to live so close to the coast -- and who wouldn't? -- beaches and dunes have to be maintained in order to counter the natural effects of erosion. It's a simple process really. Sand is basically vacuumed off the ocean floor off the coast, dumped on the beach, and moved around on the land by dozers. The problem is it costs money to do that, and nobody wants to pay. Storms are nature's way of replacing sand on the land, but when HAARP gods manipulate the weather, all bets are off. Dunes are even easier fixes. Once you get the sand back out of the ocean, pile it up and plant sea oats and picket fences. Presto! Dunes!

And smog is NOT weather! It's pollution! "Global warming" is another NWO crock to divide people from their money for having the nerve to exhale on the planet, rather than appropriately apply and enforce pollution regulations to the corporations that are causing a bulk of the man-made "carbon" issues.

Hervé

30th November 2015, 17:30

Weather Warfare: Beware the US Military’s Experiments with Climatic Warfare (http://www.globalresearch.ca/weather-warfare-beware-the-us-military-s-experiments-with-climatic-warfare/7561)

‘Climatic warfare’ has been excluded from the agenda on climate change.

By Prof Michel Chossudovsky (http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/michel-chossudovsky)
Global Research, November 29, 2015
The Ecologist, December 2007, Global Research 7 December 2007

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Rarely acknowledged in the debate on global climate change, the world’s weather can now be modified as part of a new generation of sophisticated electromagnetic weapons. Both the US and Russia have developed capabilities to manipulate the climate for military use.

Environmental modification techniques have been applied by the US military for more than half a century. US mathematician John von Neumann, in liaison with the US Department of Defense, started his research on weather modification in the late 1940s at the height of the Cold War and foresaw ‘forms of climatic warfare as yet unimagined’. During the Vietnam war, cloud-seeding techniques were used, starting in 1967 under Project Popeye, the objective of which was to prolong the monsoon season and block enemy supply routes along the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

The US military has developed advanced capabilities that enable it selectively to alter weather patterns. The technology, which is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP), is an appendage of the Strategic Defense Initiative – ‘Star Wars’. From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction, operating from the outer atmosphere and capable of destabilising agricultural and ecological systems around the world.

Weather-modification, according to the US Air Force document AF 2025 Final Report, ‘offers the war fighter a wide range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary’, capabilities, it says, extend to the triggering of floods, hurricanes, droughts and earthquakes:

‘Weather modification will become a part of domestic and international security and could be done unilaterally… It could have offensive and defensive applications and even be used for deterrence purposes. The ability to generate precipitation, fog and storms on earth or to modify space weather… and the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of [military] technologies.’ In 1977, an international Convention was ratified by the UN General Assembly which banned ‘military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects.’ It defined ‘environmental modification techniques’ as ‘any technique for changing –through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes – the dynamics, composition or structure of the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere, or of outer space.’

While the substance of the 1977 Convention was reasserted in the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) signed at the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio, debate on weather modification for military use has become a scientific taboo.

Military analysts are mute on the subject. Meteorologists are not investigating the matter and environmentalists are focused on greenhouse gas emissions under the Kyoto Protocol. Neither is the possibility of climatic or environmental manipulations as part of a military and intelligence agenda, while tacitly acknowledged, part of the broader debate on climate change under UN auspices.

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Full article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/weather-warfare-beware-the-us-military-s-experiments-with-climatic-warfare/7561

Hervé

30th November 2015, 18:03

Climate Change, Geoengineering and Environmental Modification Techniques (ENMOD)
(http://www.globalresearch.ca/climate-change-geoengineering-and-environmental-modification-techniques-enmod/5357966)
By Prof Michel Chossudovsky (http://www.globalresearch.ca/author/michel-chossudovsky)
Global Research, November 30, 2015
Global Research 18 November 2013

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This article first published in November 2013 coincided with the Warsaw Climate Summit.

The 2015 UN Climate Change Conference in Paris opens November 30th. An international binding agreement on fighting climate change is slated to be adopted.

The centre of attention will be largely focusing on greenhouse gas emissions and global warming.

Debate on geo-engineering and environmental modification techniques for military use remains a taboo, not to mention the discussion pertaining to the environmental impacts of global warfare.

In the course of the 1990s, the HAARP program was developed. The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) based in Gokona, Alaska, has been in existence since 1992. While it was officially closed down in 2013, the technology is nonetheless fully operational. HAARP is part of a new generation of sophisticated weaponry under the US Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI).
Operated by the Air Force Research Laboratory’s Space Vehicles Directorate, HAARP constitutes a system of powerful antennas capable of creating “controlled local modifications of the ionosphere” [upper layer of the atmosphere]
The irony is that the impacts of ENMOD techniques for military use were documented by CBC TV in the early 1990s.

The CBC TV report acknowledged that the HAARP facility in Alaska under the auspices of the US Air Force had the ability of triggering typhoons, earthquakes, floods and droughts:
Directed energy is such a powerful technology it could be used to heat the ionosphere to turn weather into a weapon of war. Imagine using a flood to destroy a city or tornadoes to decimate an approaching army in the desert. The military has spent a huge amount of time on weather modification as a concept for battle environments. If an electromagnetic pulse went off over a city, basically all the electronic things in your home would wink and go out, and they would be permanently destroyed.”
We invite our readers to carefully view this documentary.

Why is climate change for military use no longer an object of debate? Why is it not on the agenda of the Paris Summit?

The more substantive question is:

Are Environmental Modification Techniques (ENMOD) part of the US arsenal of “covert” military technologies to destabilize sovereign countries? The US Military has acknowledged that ENMOD is part of its military arsenal (See statements below).

There are unconfirmed reports but no firm evidence that it has been used.

In this regard, the US military acknowledges that climatic warfare has the added advantage of being used to trigger climate disasters without the enemy nation knowing about it.

The unspoken truth is that Geo-engineering and Environmental Modification Techniques (ENMOD) constitute potential Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD).

Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research, November 30, 2015

CBC DOCUMENTARY (14 MINUTES)

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Full article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/climate-change-geoengineering-and-environmental-modification-techniques-enmod/5357966

Hym

30th November 2015, 18:10

Wow! You guys are hit'n it. It is good to see those things I have known about for years, and the even larger amount of truths I didn't know, written somewhere like here.

Now it's time for a little experience I had in the late 80's:

I had known that the few sky experiments in socal were military based and, as always, corporate driven. Knowing that i was only one of a few who knew what those unnatural cloud formations were, in spite of the fact that i was never in any of those type of programs or units, I also knew that it was a done deal and that it was a waste of my energy even to discuss it. It would never become public. I was determined to focus on simply living a worthy life. The only proofs I had were based on my experiences living in the area, as a long distance runner and from the viewpoint of running in the high mountains that border the region, where the vistas showed me the health or pollution that dominated the area.

My future wife and I set off on a charter boat to Catalina, a small, offshore island just 24 miles from the SoCal coast of L.A. It was a nice boat ride to a little resort island I had always wanted to visit.

Almost as soon as we found our seats on the boat I looked up at the unusual sky and said, "F#%k!". I was pissed at what I had just seen.
My wife looked up and said, "Is that a scalar?" I said, "Yes, but I told you I don't want to discuss it anymore. Let's enjoy our day." She had noticed that the clouds in the sky formed what looked like an old Japanese flag, with lines half-filling a large part of the sky, radiating towards a large ball at the lowest center of the effect. Impossible to be natural.

We spent a good day on the island. The temperature was just right and the walking was easy. It was what I thought it would be. Warm people. Simple, common SoCal vegetation and only island golf carts with many bicycles to ride.

At the end of the day we had enough to buy a souvenir for her, so we went into a small shop to look around. As my wife went thru the many items on display I asked the lady behind the counter a question why the skies were so weird around the island. Her answer, without much thought was "Oh, scalars." With a quick smile, as if she was used to talking to me, she continued, "My son is in the Navy. He's probably in a submarine somewhere off of the coast making those right now."

Who knows why she thought that I would even know what that was, but she comfortably thought i did. This told me that someday the possibility of this information about weather modification, both atmospheric and terrestrial, might become common knowledge. Look at where we are now.

Thanks, Guys, for the input and the passion, the intent to reveal the truth.

giovonni

30th November 2015, 19:55

In a side note, my family recently reconciled to the facts of what is occurring. And thank god the family property is in the process of being sold ... It has been a challenge while living on the opposite coast, in getting them all (older brother and sisters) together in agreeing to this (excuse the pun) liquidation.

I only wish the OP video was available sooner, in helping me convince them of the inevitable ...
Still we will always have wonderful memories of our beloved Chincoteague Island Va ... :)

But here's to getting out while the getting is good - So be it !

http://ian.umces.edu/imagelibrary/albums/userpics/10040/normal_iil-ian-jt-0035.jpg

Cidersomerset

30th November 2015, 21:01

One of my early threads was a doc by Nick Begich , Angels don't play HAARPS or
something like that.

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'Monsieur Météo': French weatherman fired for his book to cover COP21 on RT

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Published on 30 Nov 2015

One month before the climate summit being held in Paris, Philippe Verdier, a popular
French weatherman was fired by France's channel two. He had published a book
claiming that scientists and politicians are generating hype around climate change
- and making the world needlessly afraid.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

giovonni

30th November 2015, 21:11

Nice find Cidersomerset ... :first:

Now that's right on stuff !

'Monsieur Météo': French weatherman fired for his book to cover COP21 on RT

1ZSKvgfnyHI

Published on 30 Nov 2015

One month before the climate summit being held in Paris, Philippe Verdier, a popular
French weatherman was fired by France's channel two. He had published a book
claiming that scientists and politicians are generating hype around climate change
- and making the world needlessly afraid.

RT LIVE http://rt.com/on-air

Hervé

30th November 2015, 23:22

...

... as for melting ice sheets, start here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50036-The-Arctic-is-melting-the-Antarctic-is-freezing.-What-does-this-mean&p=965987&viewfull=1#post965987

Sea ice and icebergs melting do not change sea level one iota... you would need to have a chat with Archimedes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes'_principle) to understand that one :)

... or watch an ice cube melt in a glass.

ks4ever

1st December 2015, 01:59

Further to my post on the 29th.
Thanks everyone for the comments.
In my statement on the ocean levels Not being Constant, I only made reference to the levels in the southern hemisphere as those in the northern hemisphere were even higher, but not consistent overall. It depends were you are situated on a tectonic plate.
Another thing we looked at in the Pacific was the rising and falling of islands due to volcanic and earthquake activity and it was found that a number of islands have either been created or have disappeared. One of those to disappear was an Island discovered by the Portuguese on the southern end of the Solomon Islands that had a population estimated at 10,000. When they returned some thirty years later the island was totally gone.
A further study looked at the incidence of tsunami's around the Australian coast line. It was found that tsunami's from 3 - 6 meters high are relatively common, but quite large one's up to thirty meters or more have hit the coastline around every five hundred years. The highest recorded tsunami hit the south-east coastline in October 1422. This was caused by a meteor impacting 250 km south of the New Zealand south island. The crater left by the electrical discharge was 20 kilometers wide by 170 meters deep, in three hundred meters of water. The tsunami that hit the New Zealand south island was estimated at 200 meters high and would have been travelling at around 800 km per hour. When it hit the Australian mainland it was estimated that between Melbourne and Sydney it must have been at least 120 meters high. The Maori's and Australian Aboriginals tell many stories about this event, and unluckily for them, a Chinese Meng He fleet, who at the time were sailing around the New Zealand south island, were decimated, but a number of junks did make it back to China.
This is why you will never see me living or staying too long near any coastline.

giovonni

1st December 2015, 02:21

Gee I'm impressed ...

Thank's Hervé & ks4ever !

I even remember some of that from school.

Althena

1st December 2015, 03:46

Never really bought al the bs that Gore and his climate change drama queens and minions try to constantly sell us.
Yet another fear mongering distraction

Cidersomerset

1st December 2015, 11:14

Twelve Reasons Why The Paris Climate Talks Are A Total Waste

By David Icke on 1st December 2015

Brietbart

‘Over the next 10 days, 140 world leaders – including Barack Obama,
Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping and David Cameron – will descend on Paris
to join 40,000 delegates at the UN’s COP21 climate conference.

Here is why they might just as well not have bothered.’

1. There has been no ‘global warming’ since 1997

So, of all the children round the world currently being taught in schools about the
perils of man-made global warming, not a single one has lived through a period in
which the planet was actually warming.

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Read more: Twelve Reasons Why The Paris Climate Talks Are A Total Waste

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/30/twelve-reasons-paris-climate-talks-total-waste/

seehas

1st December 2015, 11:19

I've posted this link in the past in another thread it shows the map of the world and you can adjust the sea level and see if your feet get wet or not.

http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/

Cidersomerset

1st December 2015, 11:23

Strong opinion from Paul Joseph Watson..

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November 30, 2015

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/global-warming-is-a-crock-of-sht.html

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Pope Francis Preaches Cult Climate Religion

By David Icke on 1st December 2015

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‘Four hundred years ago, from 1610 to 1633, the Roman Catholic Church
thought it knew more about the solar system than Galileo Galilei. So it
subjected Galileo to an Inquisition.

Now, in 2015, Pope Francis thinks he knows more about climate science than
thousands of educated climate scientists (like me). So the Pope wants a new
Inquisition for those who tell you the truth about climate change.

The fallible Pope Frances “believes” global warming is “mainly” man-made.
He believes the Paris summit must implement a Global Warming treaty or
our environment is toast. He believes global warming hurts the poor.

He’s wrong on all counts. The loss of carbon-dioxide-restricted abundant
cheap energy, not global warming, hurts the poor.’

Read more: Pope Francis Preaches Cult Climate Religion

http://www.newswithviews.com/Berry/ed101.htm

Cidersomerset

1st December 2015, 11:27

Fun , interesting article , if you are a ' data number cruncher ' ....

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Take the $100,000 Global Warming Believer Challenge

By David Icke on 1st December 2015

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Published on 29 Nov 2015
SHOW NOTES AND CONTEST DETAILS: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=17101

Do you believe in the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming hypothesis?
Want to help the IPCC with an embarrassing little statistical problem in their
latest report? Want to win $100,000? Today James introduces you to Douglas
J. Keenan's $100,000 contest to identify trend-driven time series. Details are
in the show notes. Good luck!

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musical interlude from a classic......

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Hazelfern

2nd December 2015, 03:29

It's getting toasty as hell. There is no denying it.

Hervé

2nd December 2015, 15:21

Ancient Floridians knew how to cope with rising seas, archaeologists find (http://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/globalwarming/ancient-floridians-knew-how-to-cope-with-rising-seas-archaeologists-find/2255732)

Craig Pittman, Times Staff Writer (http://www.tampabay.com/writers/craig-pittman)
Saturday, November 28, 2015 7:57pm

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Archaeologists work on an ancient burial ground on an island near Cedar Key. Courtesy of Ken Sassaman

The 2012 emergency call sent archaeologists scrambling. Rising seas were washing away an ancient Indian burial ground near Cedar Key. They had to dig up the remaining graves and collect the bones before the whole thing disappeared into the Gulf of Mexico.

But while digging, University of Florida archaeologist Ken Sassaman discovered something that surprised him. The burial ground of some 32 graves was actually a re-burial ground. The skeletons had been buried somewhere else, then moved to this spot.

Florida's early inhabitants had done that, Sassaman said, because they were dealing with the same problem that's facing the low-lying Sunshine State now: waves that creep higher and higher, crumbling the coastline and forcing the inhabitants to make tough choices about the future.

Their solution was to move everything important to them, including their ancestors, he explained.

"They're digging up their dead that are washing away in the Gulf of Mexico and relocating them to the place they're going to move to," he said. "These guys, they never abandoned the coast. They were adaptive."

Florida's current inhabitants could learn a lesson from their example, he said.

"There's a value in looking to the past for our own future," Sassaman said. "We've got a record here of 5,000 years of people dealing with sea level."

Sea level rise driven by climate change poses a major threat to Florida's coast. While the sea level fluctuates naturally, it's been rising faster than the natural rate. The change has been blamed on the warming of the world's oceans — heating water makes it expand — as well as melting glaciers.

The sea has already risen by about 8 inches since reliable recordkeeping began in 1880. It's projected to rise another 1 to 4 feet by 2100. The Tampa Bay area has been identified as one of three areas in Florida that are particularly vulnerable to rising seas, with the others being Miami and Apalachicola, according to a national assessment of climate change threats released last year.

Homes, roads, bridges, stores, hospitals, power plants and anything else in Florida that was built close to the water could be inundated by higher waves, particularly during a hurricane's storm surge. The intrusion of saltwater also threatens to taint the state's freshwater aquifer.

While some cities and counties have begun planning how best to cope with the higher water pushing inland, state officials have been reluctant to even acknowledge it's happening.

In 2014, climate scientists met with Gov. Rick Scott — who has professed skepticism about climate change — to try to change his mind. He told them he wanted to hear solutions. They sent him some, and asked for another meeting to talk about them. A year has gone by with no response.

Ignoring the problem was not an option for Florida's early inhabitants. What Sassaman found is something every archaeologist working along Florida's coast is dealing with, according to Nancy White, an archaeology professor at the University of South Florida.

Florida's coastline has shifted repeatedly over the ages, sometimes dramatically, and the tribes eating fish and oysters and traveling by canoe had to figure out how to deal with it.

"People living on the coast had to move back," said White, who has been doing her digging on St. Vincent Island in the Panhandle. Then, when the water subsided, "they came back."

"People made decisions and acted in response to sea-level fluctuations," said archaeologist William Marquardt, who has spent decades excavating sites along the coast near Fort Myers. He made that conclusion about the Calusa tribe in a paper published last year.

The fluctuations — there were probably at least three, Sassaman said — required more than just decisions about where to live and whether to move burial grounds.

For instance, diets changed. Sassaman and his colleagues, digging in shell mounds in the Lower Suwannee and Cedar Key National Wildlife Refuges, documented a shift from oysters to clams when more freshwater was present as the sea receded.

Sassaman has a theory that goes beyond the mere observation of people moving their homes and everything else to avoid losing it to the rising water.

The ancient inhabitants of what's now called the Nature Coast used shells to build mounds, ridges and rings around their villages. He believes those were used to tell future generations about the rising seas and what to do about it. They even calculated the rate of change in the sea and anticipated how far landward the water would go, he said.

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University of Florida undergraduate archaeology student Olivia Isaacs works on the shell mound excavation near Cedar Key. Courtesy of Ken Sassaman

Thanks to those structures, the villagers were ready for the inevitable.

"They came back and used the places their predecessors used," Sassaman said.

Sassaman acknowledged he's reading a lot into what's left of that long-ago civilization, one that's such a mystery that it doesn't even have a name.

"Archaeology is like a 1,000-piece puzzle for which you have 74 pieces," he said. "The rest you have to extrapolate."

Contact Craig Pittman at craig@tampabay.com. Follow @craigtimes.

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Readers may have noticed that in the above article, the "climate change" party lines have been followed very narrowly from their point of view that it's the seas that are rising or receding... completely omitted from these views are portions of land going up or down/sinking... i.e. "subsidence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tectonic_subsidence)." Never mind the pumping of aquifers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundwater-related_subsidence) to water lawns...

Cidersomerset

2nd December 2015, 20:42

Global warming HOAX unravels… globalist science fraud engineered to control humanity, not save it

By David Icke on 2nd December 2015

NATURAL NEWS.....

Global warming HOAX unravels... globalist science fraud engineered to control humanity, not save it

Wednesday, December 02, 2015
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Tags: global warming, science fraud, globalist control agenda

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The global warming being pushed on us by global governments is a science fraud. The satellite
data purported to show a warming "trend" over the last hundred years has been fraudulently
altered to show a warming trend where none exists.What the data really show are an obvious
cooling trend over the last hundred years (see below). But because this cooling trend doesn't
fit the globalist agenda of enslaving the population under a system of absolute behavioral control,
the data had to be altered to fit the government narrative of global warming / climate change.

I used to casually believe the global warming narrative, but when I took a closer look at the data
and motivations of those pushing the global warming agenda, it became obvious to me that global
warming is a massive scientific hoax being perpetrated for political reasons.

I've just posted a podcast that explains the systemic fraud and deception being carried out by
"climate change alarmists" in their effort to enslave all of humanity under globalist regulatory
control that would dictate all human activity (including breathing).

http://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/articles/global-warming-science-fraud2-600.jpg

Podcast on link...

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/052179_global_warming_science_fraud_globalist_control_agenda.html#ixzz3tCKyNymX

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/052179_global_warming_science_fraud_globalist_control_agenda.html#ixzz3tCKG2Kcv

Cidersomerset

3rd December 2015, 18:11

Climate Expert Blasts UN Conference

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Published on 2 Dec 2015

Alex Jones talks with leading climate expert Lord Christopher Monckton about the
United Nations climate conference and how it is being used to push for world government.

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Hervé

4th December 2015, 16:01

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Darn! Sea level dropped 26 feet in 2000 years! Where's all the water gone!?!

:p

Earthquakes in the Eastern Mediterranean? Much More Plentiful in Past Than Thought (http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/18493/20151201/earthquakes-eastern-mediterranean-much-more-plentiful-past-thought.htm)

By Catherine Arnold (http://www.natureworldnews.com/reporters/catherine-arnold) Dec 01, 2015 03:03 PM EST

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© Vasiliki Mouslopoulou, GFZ
Scientists look for remnants of paleo shorelines on western Crete. Red and blue arrows indicate paleo shorelines formed during the last 2,000 years and are today elevated up to 8 meters (26 feet).

There is more seismic activity in the eastern Mediterranean than was previously thought, and a study about this was recently accepted for publication in the journal Geophysical Research Letters (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2015GL066371/full?campaign=wlytk-41855.5282060185).

(http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/16261/20150825/risk-landslides-increase-rainfall.htm)Historically in the long stretch of geological time, seismic activity near and around Crete has stirred up bursts of earthquakes, and this may increase the region's future risk of earthquakes and tsunamis, according to a release (http://blogs.agu.org/geospace/2015/12/01/seismic-risk-in-eastern-mediterranean-higher-than-previously-estimated/).

Several tectonic plates are in the Mediterranean basin, caused by the African and Eurasian Plates crashing together there. While scientists have been aware that the collision between the two plates can make the eastern part of that sea and land area susceptible to earthquakes, they've also been confused by the region having gone through only two (known) earthquakes larger than 8 on the Richter scale in 4,000 years.

The African Plate goes under the Aegean microplate just south of Crete. This occurs in an area shaped like an arc, which is called the Hellenic margin. The scientists in the study looked at the history of earthquakes in this subduction zone, to learn what could drive mega-earthquakes in the area.

"We study the Hellenic subduction margin going back to about 50,000 years, which is about 10 times the time window of paleo-earthquake observations in the eastern Mediterranean that we had before," Vasiliki Mouslopoulou, at the GFZ German Research Center for Geosciences, and study lead author, in the release. "For the first time ever, we were able to chart the spatial and temporal pattern with which mega-earthquakes rupture the Hellenic margin."

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A recent study found that the historical occurrence of earthquakes in the eastern Mediterranean Sea has been much more plentiful than previously thought. They have suggestions for precautions to take, considering that. (Photo : Wikimedia Commons)

The study included field studies and radiometric dating (http://paleobiology.si.edu/geotime/main/foundation_dating3.html) (used to date materials such as carbon), as well as numerical models for part of the Hellenic margin crossing Crete. Today the Crete shorelines in question are about 75 feet above sea level. The scientists also found signs of previous shorelines, which are believed to show the sea level at the time at which they occurred. They also indicate, with their altitude in relation to sea level, the entire vertical movement that occurred as a result of earthquake motion.

The scientists learned that in the past 50,000 years, western and eastern Crete have both moved about 328 feet above sea level, lifted there by a minimum of 40 earthquakes measuring greater than 8. The quakes arrived from offshore, starting in three seismic faults along the Hellenic margin's western and eastern parts.

There have been so many big earthquakes in this area that figuring out when they'll occur again is a challenge, the study's authors said in the release. But the scientists noted that tsunami early warning systems and construction suitable for earthquakes is important to consider, in terms of the now-known increased risk.

For more great nature science stories and general news, please visit our sister site, Headlines and Global News (HNGN (http://www.hngn.com/)).

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See what 'News Speak" can do with raw data?!

Darn! Sea level dropped 26 feet in 2000 years! Where's all the water gone!?!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0203%20Smiley%20with%20tongue%20out.gif

greybeard

4th December 2015, 16:10

My late mother who worked for H.M. Inland Revenue said
Statistics statistics and------down right lies.
She was a wise woman.

c

giovonni

4th December 2015, 16:17

My late mother who worked for H.M. Inland Revenue said
Statistics statistics and------down right lies.
She was a wise woman.

c

Anyone who's ever taken a university statistic course - realizes statistical studies can be manipulated to fit any argument.

IChingUChing

4th December 2015, 16:45

Just watched this today which gives sound analysis without the hysteria that surrounds this topic. Enjoy:

Nobel laureate Ivar Giaever's speech at the Nobel Laureates meeting 1st July 2015

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCy_UOjEir0&feature=youtu.be

Cidersomerset

4th December 2015, 19:52

My late mother who worked for H.M. Inland Revenue said
Statistics statistics and------down right lies.
She was a wise woman.

She was , its one of my favourites as well , and I'm
always wary when I post quotes or charts myself .
How genuine/accurate are they ? whatever subject
I'm posting on and I try to find more than one if
I can.

Lies , Damn Lies and statistics.....

http://www.quotespedia.info/images/lies/mark_twain_lies_344.jpg

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The Climate Change Scam: More Fear To Make You Comply - The David Icke Videocast

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Published on 4 Dec 2015

David Icke Talks About The Climate Change Scam: More Fear To Make You Comply

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Frenchy

5th December 2015, 19:31

" I am no fun at a party, I wish I could shake the feeling. " <<<<< Better this way, don't you think ! When all the Party-goers, crowd outside to see the 'High-Street Tide ', being they're tipsy, under-dressed, un-prepared, they're going to have a cold, wet awakening, with no place to run ! ! ! No, just as was said in Bases 53, and by Simon Parkes seperately, better to know, be aware, and have a chance of survival, physical, mentally....

IAlthough some say Gaia is tilting gradually, to lessen the Tidal waves, they're STILL going to occur..... Alex Collier, in his Sept ,Webinar', refers to those who will see the wave coming and think.......... Should have moved long before ! !

Cidersomerset

6th December 2015, 16:01

Piers Corbyn (meteorologist and brother to Labour Party
leader Jeremy Corbyn) on religion of climate change

By David Icke on 6th December 2015

http://www.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Untitled-73.jpg

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Published on 4 Dec 2015

Piers Corbyn, a meteorologist (and brother to Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn),
says the religion of climate change is a con, much of it being pushed by big money,
and politicians that are twisting science for their tax and payola agenda for their mates in industry.

Recorded from BBC1 HD, BBC This Week, 04 December 2015.

Cidersomerset

6th December 2015, 16:12

YouTube Police Bans Documentary Exposing Climate Change

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Published on 4 Dec 2015

Filmmaker J. D. King has been actively proving the destructive reality
and profit driven motivations behind climate change legislation and
geo-engineering. This has made him a target in the ongoing battle
to silence any dissenting opinion.

If you are in bed with those that would profit greatly from Orwellian
control over the population, including taxing the air you breathe, it
seems you are free to tout polar bears surfing the arctic on iceberg
boogie boards. But if you challenge that system with facts proving
thriving polar bear populations and growing ice formations, you’ll
have to find an alternate publishing outlet.

Cidersomerset

6th December 2015, 16:25

Mainstream media abandons live viewership ratings reporting
as wave of dissent shifts viewers to indy media outlets

By David Icke on 6th December 2015

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Natural News....

Mainstream media abandons live viewership ratings reporting
as wave of dissent shifts viewers to indy media outlets

Friday, December 04, 2015 by: J. D. Heyes
Tags: media ratings, mainstream media, alternative news

‘The mainstream media is collapsing. Legacy newspapers,
news shows and broadcast networks ABC, CBS, and NBC
continue to shed readers and viewers, in large part because
of liberal, anti-American content, but also because technology
is leaving them (and their advertisers) behind.

Another indication of that came recently after Fox, which is owned
by 21st Century Fox, announced it would no longer publish or
announce live ratings for its shows – a figure based on the estimated
number of people watching the network’s programs – because
executives say the measure is no longer important, given that
many people “record” programs for later viewing.’

Read more: Mainstream media abandons live viewership ratings reporting as wave of dissent shifts viewers to indy media outlets

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/052200_media_ratings_mainstream_alternative_news.html#ixzz3tYgplPXf

Wind

6th December 2015, 18:21

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giovonni

13th December 2015, 18:05

will share this here ...

Must Watch: Climatologist Breaks the Silence on Global Warming Groupthink

Corbettreport

Dr. Judith Curry is Professor and former Chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology. Following is her verbal remarks as delivered to last week's US Senate Commerce Committee Hearing on "Data or Dogma? Promoting Open Inquiry in the Debate Over the Magnitude of the Human Impact on Earth’s Climate."

TRANSCRIPT: https://www.corbettreport.com/climato...

Published on Dec 13, 2015

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GujLcfdovE8&feature=em-uploademail

Cidersomerset

13th December 2015, 18:20

will share this here ...

Must Watch: Climatologist Breaks the Silence on Global Warming Groupthink

Corbettreport

I posted a couple clips of this on the Chemtrail thread yesterday
as there is a cross over in the geo -engineering they have been
doing for decades already has been effecting data collected
according to some researchers and scientists....

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"UNconventional Grey" Geoengineering and the Climate Change Agenda

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Published on 10 Dec 2015

http://www.unconventionalgrey.com/

Our goals in “An UNConventional Shade of Grey”

“An Unconventional Shade of Grey” is a call to action film. We are currently moving
forward with the Aerosol Collection Project where we are taking airplanes into the
aerosol plumes and testing the contaminants. Positive tests will provide us with
inarguable court admissible evidence proving that geoengineering is occurring and
changing/manipulating our climate. Our goals are to expand the aerosol collection
project and then bring evidence into courts around the world with the goal of
reversing climate agreements, related laws and mandates and thus; stopping
geoengineering. It is only then that we can determine weather the planet is
warming or cooling. Again, if the climate agreement is passed, it will provide the
framework to legalize geoengineering programs worldwide without our input and
remove our ability to take legal and legislative action. Proving that climate models
are incorrect (due to ongoing geoengineering) is the most effective way to stop
these damaging programs. Demanding that all climate related legislation is halted
until our air is free from geoengineering is the only way to prove any accuracy of
climate models. It literally forces those who are supportive of climate change
legislation to support stopping geoengineering. We have the airplane, collection
devices and scientific team.

We absolutely need your support to bring this information to the masses
We have the airplane, collection devices and scientific team. We need your support
to pay for the flight and to document this historic test and project.

“An Unconventional Shade of Grey” is a call to action film that is expected to provide
the data and call to action plan to the word. Because a collective effort is required,
we need your support. Please go to: www.unconventionalgrey.com to learn how you
can become and Angel and/or Pre-order the film. This is how we were able to fund
and wake millions of people up around the world with “WHAT and WHY in the World
are They Spraying?” Be a part of the film and process that will stop geoengineering
for good!!!

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Climate "Scientists" Refuse to Hear Facts

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Published on 10 Dec 2015

Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry and Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey have
a heated exchange during a Senate hearing.

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Climate Scientist Judith Curry on NOAA's upward 'adjustments' of temp data: They're 'rather huge'

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http://www.thedailysheeple.com/scientist-noaas-recent-upward-adjustments-in-climate-change-temp-data-are-rather-huge_122015

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?74872-Undeniable-Footage-Of-Jet-Aircraft-Spraying-The-Midwest-Respiratory-Crisis----Infected-Chemtrail-Beta-Test&p=1029028&viewfull=1#post1029028

Cidersomerset

14th December 2015, 12:27

The ‘97% consensus’ of scientists on climate change is complete bunk… fraudulent
statistic repeated everywhere is based on blatant scientific FRAUD

By David Icke on 14th December 2015

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NATURAL NEWS....

The ‘97% consensus’ of scientists on climate change is complete bunk… fraudulent
statistic repeated everywhere is based on blatant scientific FRAUD

Monday, December 14, 2015
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Tags: climate change, scientific consensus, fraudulent science survey

‘The brain-dead media isn’t really in the news business anymore. It’s actually in the
business of zombie control… with the zombies being, of course, the leftist libtard
obedient propaganda swallowers who are easily fooled by sleight-of-hand trickery
being paraded as science. (Then again, there are also CONtards on the right who
are easily fooled by fraudulent “GMO science,” so the criticism deserves to be
equally distributed across the political establishment…)

If you’ve ever has the misfortune of listening to the libtard leftist media, you’ve
probably heard the claim — repeated like a mantra chant to Gaia — that “97% of
scientists believe in man-made climate change” (or some similar paraphrased
version of this fraudulent claim).’

Read more: The ‘97% consensus’ of scientists on climate change is complete bunk…
fraudulent statistic repeated everywhere is based on blatant scientific FRAUD

http://www.naturalnews.com/052317_climate_change_scientific_consensus_fraudulent_science_survey.html

giovonni

15th December 2015, 07:19

http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2015/12/12/have-scientists-solved-one-of-the-most-troubling-mysteries-of-sea-level-rise/sealeveljpg.jpg.size.xxlarge.letterbox.jpg

Have scientists solved one of the most troubling mysteries of sea-level rise? (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/12/12/have-scientists-solved-one-of-the-most-troubling-mysteries-of-sea-level-rise.html)

Cidersomerset

15th December 2015, 17:09

I posted these on another thread and are very good imo....

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I saw this after Question time which is a BBC political debate show
late on a Thursday nights (which I like to shout at the idiot politicians
on the show ). After is another weekly political show and is where
I first became aware of Piers Corbyn , Jeremy Corbyn brother....

BBCTW: Piers Corbyn on religion of climate change (04Dec15)

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Published on 4 Dec 2015

Piers Corbyn, a meteorologist (and brother to Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn),
says the religion of climate change is a con, much of it being pushed by big money,
and politicians that are twisting science for their tax and payola agenda for their
mates in industry.

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An interesting , informative and entertaining presentation of weather predictions
and long term patterns.

This was recorded before his brother Jeremy became labour leader...

Piers Corbyn: The Reality of Long Range Weather and Climate Forecasting | EU2014

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Published on 29 Apr 2014

In his talk, Piers Corbyn described the failure of standard meteorology (SM) in outlook, theory,
and practice. He included: signals in real meteorology data unexplained by SM; real role of jet
stream, stratosphere, electro-jets, magnetosphere, solar wind, solar corona, and the Moon; the
total inability of SM to explain: sudden stratospheric warmings and its consequences, tropical
storm intensifications, angular momentum concentration in tornadoes; and the need for something
else such as electromagnetic plasma explanations; the theoretical basis of non-standard long range
weather forecasting on a real planet; a summary on his WeatherAction forecasting skill and examples;
and the future of forecasting and meteorology, climate 'science' and science in general.

Piers Corbyn began recording weather and climate patterns at the age of five, constructing his own
observation equipment. He obtained a first-class honors degree in physics at Imperial College London.
In 1969, he became the first president of the Imperial College Students' Union to be directly elected
by the student body. He later studied astrophysics in 1979 at Queen Mary College, London, and then
began examining the relationship between Earth's weather and climate and solar activity. Following
many years of weather prediction as an occupation, Piers formed WeatherAction in 1995, where he
sells web-accessible long-range monthly forecasts for Britain and Ireland, Europe, and the USA plus
special forecasts of 'Red Weather periods' and related increases in thunder/tornado and earthquake risk.
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ponda

16th December 2015, 02:08

Just want to add that when you combine 'the fight against Climate Change' with 'the war against terror' you end up with the indefinite control of the human race.

So called Man Made Climate Change is going to be used to usher in Agenda21/Agenda 2030 type measures.Which include resource control,water control,energy control etc.The so called War on Terror is being used to justify the bringing in of Big Brother and endless wars etc.

Both of these have BIG question marks around them and both can continue on indefinitely.The war on terror can never be won unless every single person is enslaved or monitored 24/7.The climate is going to continue to change regardless of what action is taken by humans.

All of the major terror events that have occurred have questions around them and could of been or were false flags.Climate change happens with or without human input.IMHO both are being used to mind control the masses as fear based problem/reaction/solution scenarios.

beewarenow

17th December 2015, 13:45

Is it all about creating confusion to keep us distracted from what our politicians et al are plotting next to destroy? Certainly the weather is very changeable and the seasons are mixed up, we've had a lot of flooding again and warmer temps but I live in an area which gets a lot of rainfall anyway. Is it created from all the chemtrails we get as well as whatever HAARP is doing?
The weather isn't natural anymore, whenever there are clear blue skies the planes bring their trails and spoil the sky, we've been under a lot of cloud cover for weeks!

pyrangello

27th December 2015, 18:01

Looking at this world in a snapshot, what god created in this place we call home (the earth) , the earth has the ability to create enough food and feed 3 times the population we have now. However that said we the stewards of the earth have done a horrible job managing our resources (wars)and worse disposing of our garbage. Garbage pools in the ocean, nuclear reactors near our water sources and oceans , the cutting down and burning of the amazon rain forest, and the resistance to push thru the barrier of fossil fuels when so many times new technology comes around , it is buried with a controlled buyout .

Many citizens of the earth would follow the lead of their elected officials and sacrifice to some degree for the greater good of this place we call home if only the intention was greater than political and corporate pressures that sway to the other side. The system is upside down with ignorant people who follow and leaders who don't lead but only exist for their status. Thus the definition of insanity continues.

I do have hope though, there are many major movements pushing thru the barriers or are ready to. The power of the internet and making all of us aware of the waste is gaining momentum. And making more people aware can help make a change. I do believe in never give up, ever, because in the end persistence does pay off. :)

As for the water rising and the earth changing , yes we are in another cycle, it should be no suprize to anyone that things are changing,we are changing, the earth is changing, more volcanic activity and earthquakes, and on and on. So we ride the wave as it flows and adjust accordingly. At this point education is our best weapon to make the choices for the greater good. And for me I accept the pledge to indeed help our earth, plants , animals and us a a world people no matter how small or large my contribution can be I will try.