Looking for the object the sun is orbiting

[WhiteLove]

My latest calculations indicate that the sun is orbiting an object at the size of 800 solar radii. This matches the fifteenth brightest star in the nighttime sky and the brightest star in the constellation Scorpius - the red supergiant Antares. Is our sun orbiting Antares? Can you find any better matches?

EDIT:

Initially I thought Antares could be the body in space that our sun is orbiting. But when I revised my mass calculations I found out it was not possible. These revised mass calculations showed that the sun is orbiting the center of Milky Way as the next gravitational center point from the sun. The center of Milky Way orbits another body that is ~270 times as massive as the center of the Milky Way. Then after that comes 4 very very light center masses in mass decreasing order, the mass of that last one is near 0. Then comes 3 more centers and the third of that is so massive that I would have to get myself better calculators to resolve its figures due to the number of digits that is required to express it. But the pattern is at that point that it is expanding and collapsing further, with greater and greater sizes on each wave. Our galaxy turns into a corn of sand in terms of its size/mass. You can best understand this as a graph that is at every scale at constant zero, until the very end when it accelerates incredibly steeply. No matter the scale, it always goes like that. What you thought was that enormous acceleration, was so just relative to that scale, on a bigger scale that acceleration does not even show. This seems to indicate an infinite amount of densities, where there is never ever a limit. It is a human idea that there must be limits to things, beyond those human ideas nature responds: "no limits - must be the case".

If I would guess where each density barrier is, it would be at every gravitational center point where the mass turns, in other words in our case it would be at the gravitational center that the Milky Way is orbiting, that might be the gateway into the next density. This could even mean that our whole galaxy with all of its parts might be on a common path towards a dimensional shift.

[DeDukshyn]

How do you calculate that stuff? Didn't your math teachers ever tell you to show your work? ;)

[Atlas]

It takes the Sun 226 million years to completely orbit around the center of the Milky Way. In fact, this Sun orbit has only happened 20.4 times since the Sun itself formed 4.6 billion years ago. It’s estimated that the Sun will continue fusing hydrogen for another 7 billon years or so. In other words, it only has another 31 orbits it can make before it runs out of fuel. (source (http://www.universetoday.com/18028/sun-orbit/))

http://i1.wp.com/www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sunmilkyway.jpg
Position of the Sun in the Milky Way. Image credit: NASA

[Sunny-side-up]

Yup Atlas and every object in our solar system revolves around some other body.

It looks like our sun is orbiting something else?

[Skyhaven]

How do you calculate that stuff? Didn't your math teachers ever tell you to show your work? ;)

Yes, show us the math. :)

[WhiteLove]

I revise all my calculations now, it looks like sun's parent is a black hole due to the mass, but let's see.. Please see the original post for updates...

[Lifebringer]

Swing wide for knowledge or..."One small universal step for Heumanity, and one giant step closer to "All."
So blessed with math, good for us all here.:thumbsup:

I am a builder/healer/spiritual type for surviving with solution during tough times thinking outside the boxes.:heart:

[ghostrider]

You can see what the Plejaren and Edward Meier have to say about this subject , there is extensive information about our sun , our galaxy, etc... Visit the future of mankind website and just type in the search box , and all the contact reports where the topic is discussed, date time and contact person...

[Atlas]

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7653/16183866244_6895ece855_c.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/OrionSpur.png/880px-OrionSpur.png

http://galaxymap.org/book_images/orientation/474x402xorion_spur.jpg.pagespeed.ic.Cu5_TPh7qV.jpg

http://www.factfictionandconjecture.ca/images/milky_way_galaxy_edge_on.jpg

[Citizen No2]

This quote from Atlas's post:


It’s estimated that the Sun will continue fusing hydrogen for another 7 billon years or so. In other words, it only has another 31 orbits it can make before it runs out of fuel.


You have to remember that these types of statements, from 'experts', are theories at best............. Only theories.

It certainly stirs the old grey matter when you listen to a man like this talk:

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Regards.

[Sunny-side-up]

This quote from Atlas's post:


It’s estimated that the Sun will continue fusing hydrogen for another 7 billon years or so. In other words, it only has another 31 orbits it can make before it runs out of fuel.


You have to remember that these types of statements, from 'experts', are theories at best............. Only theories.

It certainly stirs the old grey matter when you listen to a man like this talk:

uj8cmFCJTZ0



Regards.

That good old Mr Dollard :)
I like his mind and he is not mad but a man who speaks his mind!
Resonances :)

[dredsen]

its easy to look at photos of the milky way and view it as a map ( i certainly do)

but i think its important to remember its a composite image. i would think placing our suns location in said composite image is difficult (perhaps that is why we see varying locations even in this thread (and very cool thread it is)
a plus one to the op is well deserved. i am glad to find someone spendin time contemplating their (our) place in this universe.

i can say i hope i never find out just how dense things get in the center! :)

[WhiteLove]

i can say i hope i never find out just how dense things get in the center! :)

:) My calculations show that the density at the gravitational center point with a density reversal on the same gravitational axis as Milky Way is 3 * 10^39 kg, which is roughly like 1,5 billion times our sun in density.

Some such candidate black holes are QSO B0805+614 and Messier 84.

My calculations further suggest that each gravitational wave consists of 4 gravitational center points, because such a pattern exists in my calculations. The Milky Way's core is gravitational center point 3 of 4 on our gravitational wave.

[joeecho]

Yup Atlas and every object in our solar system revolves around some other body.

It looks like our sun is orbiting something else?

Maybe it will be discovered someday that our 'known universe' is part of some massive galaxy-like formation and that our 'known universe' is orbiting something too. Just when one couldn't seem physically any smaller comes a NEW discovery. ;)

[Atlas]

[...] Messier 84.
Messier 84 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_84) (also known as M84 or NGC 4374) is a galaxy in the constellation Virgo:

http://donsnotes.com/science/astronomy/images/localGalaxyFilaments.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Virgo_IAU.svg/709px-Virgo_IAU.svg.png

Two supernovae have been observed in M84: SN 1957 and SN 1991bg. Possibly, a third, SN 1980I is part of M84 or, alternatively, one of its neighboring galaxies, NGC 4387 and M86.

The M84/M86 Region in the Virgo cluster as photographed with the 4-meter Mayall Telescope in 1974; many fainter galaxies are seen between bright M86 (near center) and M84 (on the right):
http://messier.seds.org/Pics/More/m84-86kp.jpg
Source: http://messier.seds.org/more/m084-086_more.html

[Sunny-side-up]

Yup Atlas and every object in our solar system revolves around some other body.

It looks like our sun is orbiting something else?

Maybe it will be discovered someday that our 'known universe' is part of some massive galaxy-like formation and that our 'known universe' is orbiting something too. Just when one couldn't seem physically any smaller comes a NEW discovery. ;)

Yes :)
We will probably end up realizing one day that, we are looking at the outward projection of our own brain!
http://donsnotes.com/science/astronomy/images/localGalaxyFilaments.jpg
As within so without!
Macro, Micro the patterns do seem to follow!

[joeecho]

Yup Atlas and every object in our solar system revolves around some other body.

It looks like our sun is orbiting something else?

Maybe it will be discovered someday that our 'known universe' is part of some massive galaxy-like formation and that our 'known universe' is orbiting something too. Just when one couldn't seem physically any smaller comes a NEW discovery. ;)

Yes :)
We will probably end up realizing one day that, we are looking at the outward projection of our own brain!
http://donsnotes.com/science/astronomy/images/localGalaxyFilaments.jpg
As within so without!
Macro, Micro the patterns do seem to follow!

http://libresoftware-educ.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/yes-absolutely.jpg

[WhiteLove]

[...] Messier 84.
Messier 84 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_84) (also known as M84 or NGC 4374) is a galaxy in the constellation Virgo:

http://donsnotes.com/science/astronomy/images/localGalaxyFilaments.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Virgo_IAU.svg/709px-Virgo_IAU.svg.png

Two supernovae have been observed in M84: SN 1957 and SN 1991bg. Possibly, a third, SN 1980I is part of M84 or, alternatively, one of its neighboring galaxies, NGC 4387 and M86.

The M84/M86 Region in the Virgo cluster as photographed with the 4-meter Mayall Telescope in 1974; many fainter galaxies are seen between bright M86 (near center) and M84 (on the right):
http://messier.seds.org/Pics/More/m84-86kp.jpg
Source: http://messier.seds.org/more/m084-086_more.html

That galaxy network is incredible, it looks like the global Internet communication map. Can you imagine that each dot on that is a galaxy and that this is just a limited overview from a certain angle and distance, and there is no indication of any end to it. I was dreaming that what if we one day are able to explore life at this level and richness, I mean this is a richness that has no ending to it! Whatever you can imagine is out there somewhere! Can you imagine that each such dot is full of suns with worlds where there are incredible intelligences doing incredible things. Take for instance music. Can you imagine the richness of music and the amounts of instruments out there in that Web of galaxies. Stunning!!

We need to start realizing the magnitude of the richness present in our reality!

Here are some very cool pictures!!!

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

http://www.waivingentropy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Orion-Nebula-Messier-42.jpg

[Foxie Loxie]

What you say seems to agree with many of the things I have learned with "out of the box" thinkers! Thanks.

[Atlas]

The Milky Way's core [...]
Infrared image from NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope shows hundreds of thousands of stars crowded into the swirling core of our spiral Milky Way galaxy. In visible-light pictures, this region cannot be seen at all because dust lying between Earth and the galactic center blocks our view. (source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Milky_Way_IR_Spitzer.jpg))

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Milky_Way_IR_Spitzer.jpg/800px-Milky_Way_IR_Spitzer.jpg

[Atlas]

http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/files/2014/01/NicholasBuer-Chile.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/space/two-styx-night-panorama-fish-eye.jpg

[Ahnung-quay]

In the constellation Virgo, M84 would be located in the grail cup she is depicted to be holding in her right hand.

It's been theorized that since our galaxy is drifting toward Virgo, that is where the galaxy was originally birthed being flung far out into space and now drifting back toward the mother.

It's interesting to look at the myths as metaphors for reality...

[WhiteLove]

In the constellation Virgo, M84 would be located in the grail cup she is depicted to be holding in her right hand.

It's been theorized that since our galaxy is drifting toward Virgo, that is where the galaxy was originally birthed being flung far out into space and now drifting back toward the mother.

It's interesting to look at the myths as metaphors for reality...

Interesting!!