Prodigies.

[Ewan]

Please bring to our attention a prodigy you may know of.

I'll start here with Adrian Romoff, and apologise in advance for lowering the tone of the place with X-Factor videos. :)

Nine-year-old Adrian Romoff lives in Peachtree City, Georgia and was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He discovered the piano at age four and taught himself to play under the careful eye of his mother, Olga. He gave his first concert at age five and has since played countless public concerts and recitals. In December 2011, Adrian won first prize in an International Talent Competition at Carnegie Hall, which led to a guest appearance on The Ellen DeGeneres Show. Adrian returned to Carnegie Hall twice more and recently performed at the ClaviCologne International Piano Festival in Germany. He won the C. Merrell Calhoun Prodigy Award and recently gained acceptance into The Juilliard School. Adrian's passions are not limited to piano. He knows three languages and enjoys reading, listening to classical music and spending time with his family and friends. His idols include Albert Einstein and Russian-American pianist Vladimir Horowitz. Adrian is going into 10th grade.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LD2om64DsM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ALWey8QEzw

He's already skipped 5 or 6 grades and when you see someone like this, precocious goes with the territory, you have to wonder whom they may have been in a previous life. I cannot believe some people are born with a talent that takes others the best part of a lifetime to learn.

[Atlas]

With an I.Q. of 214 plus, then the highest ever recorded, Elizabeth Benson was a celebrity at the age of eight:

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Source: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/people/bensonprodigy.pdf

[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

Samuel Reshevsky (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Reshevsky) learned to play chess at age four and was soon acclaimed as a child prodigy.

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At age eight, he was beating many accomplished players with ease and giving simultaneous exhibitions. In November 1920, his parents moved to the U.S. to make a living by publicly exhibiting their child's talent. Reshevsky played thousands of games in exhibitions all over the U.S.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44908464/avalon/people/samuel-chess.jpg

For a period in his youth, Reshevsky did not attend school, for which his parents appeared in District Court in Manhattan facing a charge of improper guardianship.

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[Carmody]

"These figures cannot be grasped by our minds", the kid says. (re fourth dimensional geometry) Close, but not true. They have to be visualized together.

It requires, as a state of mind, that you be half in and half out.

Oh yes, he could not stand the company of an individual for more than a few minutes, due to one principle thing. Being in that other person's presence...slowed him down. That interacting with other people dulled his mind. Literally. That's how it works.

[Atlas]

Yes, I agree with you Carmody.


"These figures cannot be grasped by our minds", the kid says. (re fourth dimensional geometry) Close, but not true. They have to be visualized together.

It requires, as a state of mind, that you be half in and half out.

Oh yes, he could not stand the company of an individual for more than a few minutes, due to one principle thing. Being in that other person's presence...slowed him down. That interacting with other people dulled his mind. Literally. That's how it works.

[Carmody]

The next prediction (of this current young prodigy) is that he will move so far, so fast, that people will see him as a crackpot. They will not be able to reach the data he brings, even though he is dumbing it down. Then the distancing will be complete and he will be forgotten.

Even though he will have answers. The vast majority, 99% or more, will not have the tools to grasp what he is saying.

For him, the world will be against him. As well as various people and groups trying to capture him, in multiple ways, as a prize, a tool, a lever. Or to curtail him, to nail him down so he does not ruin or alter their games.

There are parts of his life that will literally be beyond your imagining. The rest, will be a sort of hell. How he adapts remains to be seen.

Some burn out, as they can't handle the pressures, and their likely innate OCD finally traps them with too much noise; they self isolate, or burn out. Sometimes both, and concurrently.... step away..... and ahead.

Humanity will lose them, as the 99% majority can't keep up or even understand how to listen. Those who try and control us, work those angles and more... as hard as they can.

Again, we appear to be looking at Jewish (Russian-Polish-Ashkenazi) bloodline mixes. Quite common in the 'prodigy' area.

It is a real phenomena that many don't like to look at, but it is a definite data point. I have the same, Russian-Polish-Ashkenazi blood. A slight genetic predilection toward that sort of neural wiring among such a group, causes that much of a seeming difference. Peppered with spots of intelligence and some cases of dyslexia mixed across it.

It ranges from slightly above average, into moderate to severe dyslexia, and OCD tendencies, mixed with high intelligence, or at least the precursors that can be tapped, depending on how the child is raised, what moments shift and mold the child. Isolating that genetic trait and identifying it may show it among, for example, some Korean children. (and others)

[Heartsong]

Another unfortunate thing that happens to child prodigies is that as they age they normalize. They are distinctive now because they are capable of great things at a young age. By the time they are 30 they are still very bright and capable but they are no longer unique. For years they were valued for their uniqueness and when they no longer attract attention, are no longer valued and they do not value themselves. Likely they did not go through ordinary developmental steps as other children do and as adults are lost in the areas of interpersonal communication and socialization.

[Flash]

lol I feel so stupid. This is exactly what I told you on the Here and Now thread. I do not have the Tools to understand, please give me a step by step. However, I do admit I do not have, so it is the beginning of clarity, away from blindness. Being oblivious would be worst - well, I hope (my ego talking here lol).

And nobody will understand the Korean associated thinking you are making unless they know the genetic make up of the east. Jewish Ashkenazi, polish/russian for example are part of a larger group named Kazars, khazars, who were originally white from the Caucasus régions (Russia). From this group are the western turkick tribes named Tatars as well going way back to Ghengis Khan army as well (who were half turcs half mongols, the greatest conqueror of all times) and parts of lots of the tribes along the old Silk road, which was ending in Korea. Same genetic markers all along those places and roads.

Markers: sometimes higher intelligence paired with OCD (with higher or lesser intensity depending on the individual) and Learning disability (dyslexia, dysphasia, etc). Those are only markers, enhanced or destroyed through the environment set up (or environmental manipulations). Another marker encountered more: psychopathy, when the heart chakra cannot open up (unless this marker is widespread in humans but more harmful when paired with higher intelligence).




The next prediction (of this current young prodigy) is that he will move so far, so fast, that people will see him as a crackpot. They will not be able to reach the data he brings, even though he is dumbing it down. Then the distancing will be complete and he will be forgotten.

Even though he will have answers. The vast majority, 99% or more, will not have the tools to grasp what he is saying.

For him, the world will be against him. As well as various people and groups trying to capture him, in multiple ways, as a prize, a tool, a lever. Or to curtail him, to nail him down so he does not ruin or alter their games.

There are parts of his life that will literally be beyond your imagining. The rest, will be a sort of hell. How he adapts remains to be seen.

Some burn out, as they can't handle the pressures, and their likely innate OCD finally traps them with too much noise; they self isolate, or burn out. Sometimes both, and concurrently.... step away..... and ahead.

Humanity will lose them, as the 99% majority can't keep up or even understand how to listen. Those who try and control us, work those angles and more... as hard as they can.

Again, we appear to be looking at Jewish (Russian-Polish-Ashkenazi) bloodline mixes. Quite common in the 'prodigy' area.

It is a real phenomena that many don't like to look at, but it is a definite data point. I have the same, Russian-Polish-Ashkenazi blood. A slight genetic predilection toward that sort of neural wiring among such a group, causes that much of a seeming difference. Peppered with spots of intelligence and some cases of dyslexia mixed across it.

It ranges from slightly above average, into moderate to severe dyslexia, and OCD tendencies, mixed with high intelligence, or at least the precursors that can be tapped, depending on how the child is raised, what moments shift and mold the child. Isolating that genetic trait and identifying it may show it among, for example, some Korean children. (and others)

[Carmody]

Another unfortunate thing that happens to child prodigies is that as they age they normalize. They are distinctive now because they are capable of great things at a young age. By the time they are 30 they are still very bright and capable but they are no longer unique. For years they were valued for their uniqueness and when they no longer attract attention, are no longer valued and they do not value themselves. Likely they did not go through ordinary developmental steps as other children do and as adults are lost in the areas of interpersonal communication and socialization.

Sometimes we can see it, sometimes we can't. In my case, my mother said, when I was born, that I 'was all nose'. Meaning my nose was growing faster than the rest. It was normal sized fairly quickly (very young age) and now I just have a normal sized nose compared to my face, and just a slight 'hook nosed shemite' thing going on.

Sometimes the lack of growth of the eyes, for example, these vision issues that many have.


The brain can have or undergo similar growth situations, where it grows late, or grows early. But that it all evens out, relatively speaking, in the end.


I had a friend who did not grow beyond a near dwarf stage, until he was 18.

Then, in two-three years, he was 5'8" and naturally muscular. It did not start at 11 or 12, it started at age 18.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/4b/01/934b01cf1a693d4c6b9a625abe1155cd.jpg

Ultimately..... we are patchwork, manufactured, genetic cut and fit. Obviously so. No less a calico palomino Heinz-57 mutt than any cat, horse, or dog.