Gary McKinnon's claims of Non-Terrestrial Officers

[Star Tsar]

Avalonians,

I am interested in your opinion & feelings on Gary McKinnon's testimony about Non-Terrestrial Officers.
I have included a poll on this but please feel free to post opinions on these claims.

[Cidersomerset]

I think he is telling the truth that he saw a list of non - terrestrial officers
and a list of vessels with the prefix USS ------ ? . I also think he knows at least
some if not all the names as he was cross referencing them , on the US
Navy site against known American naval terrestrial ships.

From there whether the data he was looking at was real or some other
exercise I don't know ? But why they would refer to 'non terrestrial officers'
does not make sense unless they were from the alternate or secret space
programme ? or some other scenario , or even actual ET exchange / attached
crew to help fly joint craft ? that is probably going to far for now...LOL

I did mention this on Giovonnis thread after what Gary went thru over the
past 15 years I don't think he will reveal any more details on that subject.
Even if he has genuinely forgotten the names , I was pleasantly surprised
to see him on Rich Halls show. The fact he is able to access the web maybe
a trade off for him to keep quite on that specific aspect of his original disclosure?
Talking around the information and speculating about UFO's in general with the rest
of us is fine I would of thought. We will no doubt see if he gives any more interviews.

[Nick Matkin]

This link will help. http://therundownlive.com/nasa-hacker-claims-usa-has-war-ships-in-space/

It has the four-part interview of Garry McKinnon that the OP is presumably referring to.

I'm no psychologist, but he looks genuine to me - or he believes he's genuine.

What I'd like to know is that if all these US government computer networks were as easy to get into as he says, where are all the other whistle blowers? He says there were 'visitors' on these networks from all over the world, presumably doing what he was doing. Where were their testimonies?

In part four Garry seems to have his head screwed on about some of the 'free-energy' mumbo-jumbo, but he also briefly suggests one or two real electro-magnetic research avenues to explore - which he sounds like he is doing.

[mojo]

hmmm can non-terrestrial officers be both humans and non-humans? Which many feel we humans are working with some ETs. So if that is the case I vote they could be on earth (non-humans) and humans in space....

[seehas]

i feel they are humans but maybe some of them aren't born on earth but maybe on a mars colony? gary said the ships had always the prefix "USSS" so very different from the way we use it here on earth "USS".

if you have a program like this its better to have people working for you that don't show feelings or interests in earth life and humans that aren't even born on earth don't have this and are much more easy to control and manipulate then someone that knows he got relatives down there.

[Harley]

Non-Terrestrial Officers refers to ANY officer who is currently assigned to duty off-planet. Once their tour of duty is satisfied they are relieved by another officer (who is then placed on the Non-Terrestrial Assignment List) and rotated back to regular Terrestrial Duty (taken off of the Non-Terrestrial Assignment List).

Only from the type of source that McKinnon would have possibly been able to access (Military Personnel Assignments), such a database containing a list of Non-Terrestrial Officer Transfers And Ship Names would refer to only Earth-Human Military Officer Assignments (Unless of course they've now started commissioning aliens into the armed forces, something of which I am unaware :)).

Some people believe that McKinnon got this info from a NASA source but I sincerely doubt it. NASA has nothing whatsoever to do with military assignments/transfers nor does it have anything to do with the SSP (the one that's NOT advertised), and the only information that is given them is that which is necessary to prevent any conflicts with their assigned duties – which is to keep the public dumbed-down.

Seeing how the US and the UK are basically connected at the hip, I believe it likely that the only thing that could have saved McKinnon from extradition and prosecution in the US would be that he obtained much more information and/or proof than what was released and that this was used as a bargaining chip. Something we will probably never know.

[Globeflyer]

If i recall Gary said in Richard hall`s interview he had seen the info regarding ships and non terrestrial officers ,from the Naval site not NASA.

[ghostrider]

They could be part of the secret space program... I think alot of it is disinformation ...

[WhiteLove]

This link will help. http://therundownlive.com/nasa-hacker-claims-usa-has-war-ships-in-space/

It has the four-part interview of Garry McKinnon that the OP is presumably referring to.

I'm no psychologist, but he looks genuine to me - or he believes he's genuine.

What I'd like to know is that if all these US government computer networks were as easy to get into as he says, where are all the other whistle blowers? He says there were 'visitors' on these networks from all over the world, presumably doing what he was doing. Where were their testimonies?

In part four Garry seems to have his head screwed on about some of the 'free-energy' mumbo-jumbo, but he also briefly suggests one or two real electro-magnetic research avenues to explore - which he sounds like he is doing.

That fact that others around the world did the same thing as Gary did, indicated to me that those could be part of that international secret society that were engaging in those non terrestrial activities. This would in turn indicate that not only was that list with non terrestrial officers real, but this actually be the best evidence yet of a transnational secret space program, where the US Navy plays a role in that.

What surprises me about this though is how such secret stuff is secured so recklessly, it almost indicates that someone on the inside wanted this to happen, I wonder what happened to those responsible of that... I also wonder could it be that Gary or someone else collaborated with someone on the inside... The very least it indicates is that they did not study the level of security in the base image. Strange...

[Cidersomerset]

Some people believe that McKinnon got this info from a NASA source but I sincerely doubt it. NASA has nothing whatsoever to do with military assignments/transfers nor does it have anything to do with the SSP (the one that's NOT advertised), and the only information that is given them is that which is necessary to prevent any conflicts with their assigned duties – which is to keep the public dumbed-down.

He says on the interview he got it from the Naval site ? though he did not go into detail other
than he was able to get on several sites thru the 'back door'.

[Sunny-side-up]

Can't realy vote there Star Tsar.
the poll needs other options included, like:

Option 4
They are both human and non, both on Earth and in space and also comprise of PLF's

[Star Tsar]

Can't realy vote there Star Tsar.
the poll needs other options included, like:

Option 4
They are both human and non, both on Earth and in space and also comprise of PLF's

Hey SSU,

I did not want to venture into species type for this poll. I feel at this stage it would only serve as sensationalism.
However you do raise an excellent point of discussion as I have often wondered about those who do go to places off planet being allowed to return to Earth in regards to the terrestrial population & Non Earth bugs, bacteria & viruses etc.
I wonder what technolgies & procedures would be needed, And what do Nasa do in this case?
Also I have no idea what a PLF is!

Besides all of that there is no option (as far as I know) to ammend a poll once posted so you may well have come up with a forum improvement to!

:highfive:

By the way it is a multiple choice poll...

[seehas]

gary mckinnon was granted a honeypot, the information he found was put there to be found.

white hats at work

[KiwiElf]

A recent Interview with Gary McKinnon, from Richplanet TV on 1-DEC-2015
Gary clearly states he doesn't know if the "non-terrestrial" crew list implied aliens or humans living off-world.

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[Star Tsar]

A recent Interview with Gary McKinnon, from Richplanet TV on 1-DEC-2015
Gary clearly states he doesn't know if the "non-terrestrial" crew list implied aliens or humans living off-world.

Hey KiwiElf,

That statement gave me the inspiration to create this poll! :thumbsup:

[Star Tsar]

Bumping my own thread to see if any more votes can be garnered...

[Cidersomerset]

This is a few years old....

The Secret Space Program, NASA, Apollo Missions and Gary McKinnon - Nick Redfern

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Published on 31 Mar 2016


The Secret Space Program, NASA, Apollo Missions and Gary McKinnon - Nick Redfern

Music: Spellbound by Kevin Macleod
Kevin's website: http://www.incompetech.com

[Cidersomerset]

Gary gave only a few interviews one with Kerry ( Camelot ) and this one

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[Agape]

Options :

1. It's dogs and cats ( yep , animals do get enlisted as non-T officials )

2. Secret space program option ( technically, any astronaut out of the official space program or within could be listed in that category )

3. Dirty option => it's blowing whistle on the people within the system who are ETs like Gary McKinnon ,
gets us to logical loop but never mind

4. It's all run by few hooded figures in backgrounds

5. It's an ET 4D movie , it's latest human replica coming to your movie halls in July ..

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[muxfolder]

Off topic.. His dialect is so strong that occasionally I can't tell what he's saying. Usually I don't have any problems understanding English.

[Bill Ryan]

His dialect is so strong that occasionally I can't tell what he's saying. Usually I don't have any problems understanding English.

Transcript here:
http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/gary_mckinnon_interview_transcript_en.html

[kirolak]

In my view, Richard D Hall is just about the best interviewer of all, up there with Bill Ryan. . . cuts straight to the point, without any of the waffle or padding others use.

[Cidersomerset]

Echos of Gary McKinnon though no mention of UFO's....

I cannot find my thread on Free Gary so I'l post it here for ref....

http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/3.21.31/orb/4/img/bbc-blocks-dark.png

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[mojo]

very interesting discussion...

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[mojo]

also wanted to point out that Gary mentions how many other unwelcome guests were on the NASA servers. Gary talked about the image of the disk that he halfway downloaded. Now we know other Countries have seen the UFO he seen plus probably more, from NASA and still nobody has come forth..