Wanna improve the forum? Kick everyone out!

[Mike]

...and then start over again.

bear with me, i'm not too sure how serious i am about this...we're gonna build as i work my way thru it..

staleness. we experience it all the time. marriage, job, spouse. day in, day out, same thing. right? even if you play tennis with somebody daily, there will come a time when you learn their every stroke. there will come a time when neither of you are growing or improving as players, and you must find someone else to play with...

take school, for example. avalon is kinda like a school. you don't stay in school forever, do you? youre not stuck in the 12th grade forever, mulching over the same sh!t into eternity, right? i cant help but think of the actors in high school dramas here, like 90210, who are well into their 20's while still pretending to be high schoolers...the guys with receding hairlines, the girls wrinkling...

in sport there is always the guys who hang on too long, and having earned respect thru their play, monopolize the positions that younger and hungrier players should have taken years prior...

when young, 20, 21, whatever, if you do not leave the house, your folks will politely or not so politely ask you to leave. this happens in the wild too - cubs and baby lions will eventually be forced to go it on their own...do their own thing, grow, learn etc

its easy to get comfortable in life, especially with that comfy, reliable, predictable old seat waiting for you...

you ever get sick of your own voice? ever get sick of repeating yourself here? imagine how everyone else feels???:) i get sick of my voice...i'm sick of it now, even as i write this..

every so often, and almost on cue, someone here will start an overly dramatic thread about how the forum is this or that, how it needs improving etc. ive never really understood it, as i believe avalon to be the best of its kind, without too many faults..except perhaps various members tendency to share fiction as truth...but i digress...

you give me a popular member and a topic, and i bet i can tell you more or less what that person would say about it..and i bet i could do it in their style as well...pet phrases, tendencies so forth..

in short, we've gotten stale i think. its not that we're doing a bad job or anything, but thats not the point. in sport, a coach will frequently get fired even after a decent season, simply because his tenure has run its course. the kids no longer listen...he no longer teaches with the passion he once had. and thats natural. its no one's fault. its just the way it is..

same in romantic relationships. people split sometimes not because they no longer care about one another, but because they've exhausted the potential of the relationship. theres simply no where else to go...

you guys ever feel that way about avalon? i do. i get a little bored sometimes...

and it got me to thinking...how do we improve the forum? well, kick everyone out, of course...
life is about recycling..literally and figuratively, for all the reasons i mentioned above and many many more. recycling is the nature of the earth and the universe itself. what if avalon became a place where you could only stay for 2, maybe 3 years? would it be such a bad thing? recycling in new, fresh mind and hearts? to me and my way of thinking, it might be the only way it can stay fresh and relevant - new people, new voices, new angles, and yes..new dramas.

ive been here for i think 5 years now. its been a largely wonderful experience..but i can't help but wonder whether, at this point, im growing or stagnating. personally, im done with conspiracy. ive od'd on it. if i were stuck on a desert island and had nothing but Icke books to keep me company, i'd likely use them as sh!t paper. and i like icke. i wouldnt watch another ancient aliens if you paid me. ive had it. enough already...no more..

where are you guys on this? i don't think a limit on how long you can stay here would be such a bad idea. i could easily argue the other side of it as well, but i think its an interesting topic..

[Bill Ryan]

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I loved the title! :sun:

The forum is kind of like a 'body' of 'cells' (as any community is, large or small). The body sort of stays the same, pretty much — but the cells often go through a kind of cycle, and replace themselves over periods of time, organically and naturally.

The collective learning and experience of the body stays with the body. In the human body, most of the cells are all replaced by the end of each 7 year cycle.

The forum doesn't work in exactly that way, because there are some long-term members who've been here pretty much from the start (2008), while other new members sometimes post a few times and then drift away a couple weeks later.

But by and large, compared with the membership (say) 4 years ago, the members are maybe 95% new since then.

The values and principles of the forum, which are more or less consistent over time, are really 'held' by a combination of (a) the long-term members, of course, (one good reason not to get rid of everyone! :bigsmile: ) — and (b) by a kind of Morphic Field which is co-created by everyone who's ever participated. It's interesting stuff.

[WhiteLove]

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where are you guys on this? i don't think a limit on how long you can stay here would be such a bad idea.

I think it would. I think what you write does not make any sense at all, but I can understand the perspective it comes from, and it is reflected in an authentic way. I came to think of this statement by Jordan Maxwell: "You don't care, so you should go and watch the football". Something like that. Could that be what you should be doing now for some time to get some perspective on the importance of Avalon and the discussions going on here?

[ulli]

After Fukushima I really thought it was time to head for the hills.
And one massive threat after another was looming, and quakes were becoming stronger and more frequent.

Did I think I'd be on my third iPad by 2015, sitting in a comfortable home, and still checking my Here and Now thread?
No way, Josay.
Yet here we are. Things have changed out there, in fact, they have gotten worse.
The media lies are more blatant, for starters.
We still do have a job here, digging through that mess, and finding the truth.
But there are just too many who don't really care about the truth, or even being informed about world affairs.

The only thing I'm really pleased about is how many people have become aware of astrology since then,
and are on a committed self realization path. It does lead to some sort of enlightened state.
Those who click and get it are doing the world a huge service as their elevated vibrations are helping to hold the balance against the ever increasing dramas which the elite create to bring their agenda to a head.
But what about the rest, whose vibes are not only not becoming more frequent but are actually decreasing, and become determined to drag others down with them?
Making it still harder for the rest who are struggling to remain in good cheer?
I agree with you, Mike, some really need to ask themselves what they are doing here,
and why they still feel that whining against Bill and the mods is going to get them what they want.
And if they don't ask themselves, they need to be asked.
By yourself, the mods, and the rest of us, if necessary.

[Andre]

Interesting idea but I can't for the life of me see how it would revitalize the forum. Bill, this may simply be a case of you personally getting tired of it all. I can certainly relate to being fed-up with conspiracy theories and the state of world affairs today. I'm getting on in years myself and prefer to renovate my new cottage in the country these days. Admittedly, I do follow world affairs these days, but, yes the state of the world is now deteriorating rapidly and it's becoming increasingly difficult to hang in there. I do love coming back to the forum occasionally to see what's been happening and there's always interesting bits and pieces to ponder. So, no I don't see much point in re-booting unless there is a more coherent strategy behind how it will be done and what it will do for the forum.

BTW, I presume throwing everyone out would mean an email to all existing members offering them the opportunity to re-join the "new" Avalon within x number of days? A lot of the existing members would be wondering at that point what's "new" about the forum and why this was done in the first place but the members who have a real interest in the forum would obviously re-join immediately. So perhaps the only thing this exercise would achieve in the long run would be a nice neat cull of those members who have long lost interest. If the existing members are not invited to re-join, doesn't it become an exercise of "throwing the baby out with the bath water". Finding fresh and new members would depend on reach and I doubt Bill that you have the resources to market to a whole new community of members in an way that would result in a fresh audience. Anyway, where would they come from? Having said that, perhaps there is an entirely different way to re-boot the forum such as updating the forum software or just opening a sister forum with a different set of rules for moderators? Buggered if I know.

[zen deik]

A forum cleansing lol....

[MorningSong]

I am one of the oldies still hanging out at good ole PA.... I've made it through numerous "flea baths" here at the forum....and I still love participating.

If someone told me that I had to leave just because I was here time overdue... I'd get really p*ssed... it would like gassing the elderly to make room for (whom?) new voices?

Who ever said there was no more room for new voices on Avalon? As Bill wrote above, most of the folks here are relatively new... not many of us old folks (2008ers) around anymore, as the turnover has been at times massive... especially when some threads became cultish and eventually went tumbling down.

I really can't imagine getting bored with Avalon. Every day I check in and get lost among the new posts and the posts that I somehow missed days ago that come popping back up to the front line for me to read. Maybe the problem that Mike is having is that our reality has slowed down a bit recently, like it's holding its figurative breath, waiting for the next huge event to come along to burst our bubbles or make our day. I feel the heaviness of the silence, the waiting, too.

But.. I keep coming back to Avalon so I don't miss out on "it". I know "it" will be announced here long before it will reach the MSM. And I want to be amongst the first to know!

So here's to Avalon! Oldies and Newbies alike! May the waves of consciousness never forsake us!

[AriG]

I hear what you are saying, but maybe what you need to do is not let it rule your life? Perhaps you just spend more time than you should on the forum? Over the last couple of years, this forum has been more of a blessing to me than you could ever know. I asked for and was granted healing energies that really worked. Having this collection of enlightened souls upon which to rely in trying times saw me through. I will always be grateful for that. That said, I do not make the forum a tick on my daily to do list. Sometimes I am active, others not so much. But what a comfort it is to know that out there, all over this orb, there are people who see the world the way that I do and can be relied upon to always do the right thing and all I have to do is log in to this platform. If I were kicked out, just by virtue of longevity (hopefully I haven't pissed too many people off), it would be a loss. Then I'd have to go join Godlike Productions and pray for the best (JUST kidding!). Powerful energy here. The majority good, some a little dark (thanks for that psychic attack last week, btw, but seriously... old hag? lol). In closing, and I mean no disrespect here... people are not disposable. Not in 3d, 4d, or in cyberspace. Just take a walk. Or a vacation. :)

[mojo]

Hi,
Honestly kicking everyone out is really not option but thinking of ways to improve the forum might be we look at ourselves and how we interact with each member and that does not mean always agreeing but respecting and finding ways of being supportive. That seems more do-able.

[Ezekiel]

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32247
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within this House of Mirrors
sight of purpose
oft escapes
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☪ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6YCxXQ6Scw)

[Althena]

Don't fix what ain't broken...

[Mutchie]

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I loved the title! :sun:

The forum is kind of like a 'body' of 'cells' (as any community is, large or small). The body sort of stays the same, pretty much — but the cells often go through a kind of cycle, and replace themselves over periods of time, organically and naturally.

The collective learning and experience of the body stays with the body. In the human body, most of the cells are all replaced by the end of each 7 year cycle.

The forum doesn't work in exactly that way, because there are some long-term members who've been here pretty much from the start (2008), while other new members sometimes post a few times and then drift away a couple weeks later.

But by and large, compared with the membership (say) 4 years ago, the members are maybe 95% new since then.

The values and principles of the forum, which are more or less consistent over time, are really 'held' by a combination of (a) the long-term members, of course, (one good reason not to get rid of everyone! :bigsmile: ) — and (b) by a kind of Morphic Field which is co-created by everyone who's ever participated. It's interesting stuff.

I joined the forum in 2010 and i have had some pretty constant friends here on the forum .. People who i RESPECT enough to ask for advice if i needed some.. People who i feel that i could TRUST ... With all this stuff that has been going down on PA recently i decided to check & see if ANYTHING NEGATIVE was written on the NET about our forum " I WAS CURIOUS" What i found was quite a surprise ... A couple of EX members have attempted to WARN other would be applicants about Project Avalons Mods 1st of all then about Bill himself 2ndly ...BUT I DID NOT KNOW OR RECOGNISE THE FORUM WHICH THEY WROTE ABOUT ... Infact i couldn't relate to them AT ALL ... iv found EVERYONE really nice & easy to communicate with & furthermore i have NEVER been ill treated by ANY OF THE MODS ... It actually Pissed me off to see people writing LIES about our forum please excuse my language ... For 5 years iv enjoyed coming here & iv learned a lot from the topics & the people ... Please let us all put recent events behind us & obviously continue to support our Friend and founder Bill Ryan ...A split is NEVER easy especially when you loved the person it must be HARDER STILL when things become public knowledge ... I never knew Christine but i suspect she was LOVED & TRUSTED ... that trust was Broken & whether married or not taking the PA Donations was unforgivable ... Anyway soon it will be 2016 it should be a NEW START FOR US ALL within our much LOVED community..!!! I ALSO WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY XMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR YOUR FRIEND MUTCHIE !!!! :sun:

[Sérénité]

I understand where you're coming from Mike. When I first joined a few years ago it was a twice daily log on thing for me, I read every new post and soaked up every interview and every bit of info like a sponge. I felt obliged to contribute as much as possible and not loiter in the shadows.

Over time I got a little wiser to which threads and videos to give up precious spare time for and which to avoid completely just by the title and general tone the OP came across in.

I still check out the main page daily and scan through the latest threads. Some days I'm like a kid in a candy shop, excited that I've an evenings worth of interesting videos to watch and things to read into more. Other days there's just nothing...tumble weed moments...big sigh and resorting to Netflix or Ancient Alien re-runs ;)

But that's just life in general right? Some days are enlightening, overwhelming, others quiet, boring, others fun and educational.

People leave and people join, some go into stealth mode whilst others are constantly on the radar. The dynamics seem to constantly change. Just when you think there's nothing left to be said and don't bother to log on for a while cos its all a bit stagnant and you're reading nothing new...along comes something juicy to get your teeth into and the atmosphere perks up again and a new fresh rush of information emerges.

If its a first in, first out situation Mike then I guess you'd be further to the front of the queue than me, but I hope that's not the case cos despite me being one of those silent lurkers most of the time...I do quite like your input and humour. Your hat is quite cool too :P

[Ahnung-quay]

Funny, I'm presently holding some of the same sentiments about public radio after listening to it for twenty years. Never realized how main stream it is..
Project Avalon is a great forum for getting truthful information. Some of the older members have honed their vetting talents very well. I like reading posts from old and new members.
Even though I don't post that much, I try to do so with respect. I don't agree with everyone and I'm sure not everyone agrees with me.
If members would keep a respectful attitude instead of trying to get agreement, sometimes descending into rudeness, it would really be Avalon. Thanks to the mods for controlling some of that!
Sometimes reality checking does get old but I'll never take the blue pill.
I plan on staying around for awhile yet.

[RunningDeer]

if i were stuck on a desert island and had nothing but Icke books to keep me company, i'd likely use them as sh!t paper.

same in romantic relationships. people split sometimes not because they no longer care about one another, but because they've exhausted the potential of the relationship. theres simply no where else to go...

you guys ever feel that way about avalon? i do. i get a little bored sometimes…

Part One:

Not to minimize your experience, Mike…but… you’re purty close enough to that magic 40 year mark. You know, the fast-red-sporty-car, where am I going?, what’ve I accomplished?, tired of living in this dead-end, endless same-old-same-old, stinking mousetrap phase.

Part Two:

Step a-WAy from the David Icke books... Spare stash in fruity colors.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/toilet-paper_zpsku8z0v1r.jpg


Love,
Paula ♡

[PurpleLama]

you give me a popular member and a topic, and i bet i can tell you more or less what that person would say about it..and i bet i could do it in their style as well...pet phrases, tendencies so forth..

This seriously needs to be a thread.

Until somebody complains, at least.

[Daozen]

It's true that the talking has gone as far as it can. We know what the problems are: bad governments, poverty, toxic food. No need to go round in circles, you're right Mike.

I think the future is web programming and 3D printing.

I have noticed that the talk on "cutting edge" web forums has gone from endless blethering about the problems, to endless blethering about action. I guess that's a step forward.

[seehas]

remove all people from earth and let the incarnation process start somewhere new, happened already didn't worked out to be the best solution :P

[TODD & NORA]

..........

[DeDukshyn]

remove all people from earth and let the incarnation process start somewhere new, happened already didn't worked out to be the best solution :P

but apparently it was better than the alternative ... one always has to look at both sides. :)

[DeDukshyn]

you give me a popular member and a topic, and i bet i can tell you more or less what that person would say about it..and i bet i could do it in their style as well...pet phrases, tendencies so forth..

This seriously needs to be a thread.

Until somebody complains, at least.

Do Me! Do Me! I think it would be an awesomely fun thing to do. :)

[transiten]

if i were stuck on a desert island and had nothing but Icke books to keep me company, i'd likely use them as sh!t paper.

same in romantic relationships. people split sometimes not because they no longer care about one another, but because they've exhausted the potential of the relationship. theres simply no where else to go...


you guys ever feel that way about avalon? i do. i get a little bored sometimes…

Part One:

Not to minimize your experience, Mike…but… you’re purty close enough to that magic 40 year mark. You know, the ‘fast-red-sporty-car,’ where am I goin’, what’ve I accomplished, tired of living in this dead-end, endless same-old-same-old, stinkin’ mousetrap phase.

Part Two:

Step away from the David Icke books.
And I'm still in thought about the rest of your post. For now, spare stash+fruity colors.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/toilet-paper_zpsku8z0v1r.jpg


Love,
Paula ♡

And I will be nagging about endless synchronicities like this one: Couldn't sleep, went to TLOO and put some toilet rolls into a special "hanger" totally not out of necessity in the middle of the night, but of course that was necessary otherwise the synchronicity would not have manifested! :jester:

Just for this reason i could stay on Avalon for ever and ever...reminds me of a song from long ago...

[Shannon]

I just got here so you guys are gonna have to drag me out the door kicking screaming. ;)

[6pounder]

As a really new member its hard for me to get on sync with you'r feels and idea... Finding this jem (forum) and being accepted to be part of it was the real deal about being part of the change we all here trying to bring out to the world. So, maybe not seeing this change in your perspective meens the forum ain't doing is job. In my opinion being part of this forum for that match time is what makes it the power tool against all the agenda out there. The people that doing every effort to put up another "known" fact about ET's or 9/11 is what makes others to believe the change in the world eventually will come. The core members are those who keep people like me (a newcomer) being informed and more aware of the fact that I'm not alone in the who knows that the truth is out there and as those who exposing it, I don't need any official to tell me about the truth. Wiping your ass with David icke's books is kind of a bad way to say that conspiracy world wide is just a theory for you and you don't mind about letting it be and just accept the world as it is...

[sandy]

Got to love your passion Mike...we need that in life and here on Avalon...and hey who else can kick ass like you; often when it is needed most!

You are needed and wanted right here so don't be getting any crazy idea's about contacting Anonymous for help to reboot Avalon.........:nono:

Besides that I want you right by my side when the SHTF. Your ability to call a spade a spade and get some action going is just what we will require and you are the go to guy for that!

Hang in Mike as life is nothing but patterns and they do recycle but each time we see a little more and a little deeper and there in lies the difference, individually at least....:highfive:

[Lost N Found]

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I loved the title! :sun:

The forum is kind of like a 'body' of 'cells' (as any community is, large or small). The body sort of stays the same, pretty much — but the cells often go through a kind of cycle, and replace themselves over periods of time, organically and naturally.

The collective learning and experience of the body stays with the body. In the human body, most of the cells are all replaced by the end of each 7 year cycle.

The forum doesn't work in exactly that way, because there are some long-term members who've been here pretty much from the start (2008), while other new members sometimes post a few times and then drift away a couple weeks later.

But by and large, compared with the membership (say) 4 years ago, the members are maybe 95% new since then.

The values and principles of the forum, which are more or less consistent over time, are really 'held' by a combination of (a) the long-term members, of course, (one good reason not to get rid of everyone! :bigsmile: ) — and (b) by a kind of Morphic Field which is co-created by everyone who's ever participated. It's interesting stuff.

Interesting concept there young man. 38 going on 18 it would appear or as RunningDeer has posted, you be close to 40 and that is to a man like Menopause is to a woman. I would say that if you are bored you should look for other things to do in your life rather than spend it locked up in front of a computer on a forum. I am not trying to be nasty or anything I do believe you got the movement in life to go and get great things. I started to post here about this idea you brought forth and how it sounds so close to other major mass changes for the worse of humanity in past history. 1. Germany, 1933-1945, something called the Nationalist Socialist party or better known as the NAZI PARTY. Same Idea, Kick em all out and start fresh, That Idea began genocide. Lets go back further. 1914-1917 and the Bolshevik revolution in Russia and the 1st world war with Germany. Okay we can go all the back to 1860-1865 and the Idea that all had to conform to a different fresh way of thinking. So that actually got alot of folk dead as well as those others. Well here is a more up to date reality, That was a writers storyline but has come to past as reality. George Orwell wrote 1984 a book you might want to read if you haven't already. These are just some of the things that follow the same Idea you have proposed with PA. Its all about change and how we could make it better but it comes down to one or a few oligarchs that become controllers. I have read the posts after your initial start of this thread and fortunately wise minds have weighed in. Not to say your initial thought to freshed up or help grow Pa is not entirely bad. I do believe that there are things that can be done to grow this forum even and ever more. This is a very lighted place for folks to grow, to understand. If one gets bored then one should take that walk into nature or some where else to get a fresh perspective in their life. I been around since before dirt and I can tell you that I have never stopped growing and learning. Yes I did go through that manopause stage and it was not pretty. But I did grow and learn none the less.

So keep on moving young man you have a lot to offer and give and learn. There is an old saying that does hold true. "Don't mess with an old person, they won't pause for an instant to just shoot you"

Love to you brother
Steven

Well it seems that Murphy's law strikes again. I thought I was quoting the first post by Mike here but seems that I caught Bills post instead. Man! I'll tell ya, it just happens and that is what is so great about like, all these surprises, never ceases to amaze me.

[Lost N Found]

Well I just forgot this one. This is for you Mike and it is for all us also.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKDPaf40LCw

So we all try and our love is the only thing we have to give.

[Mike]

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where are you guys on this? i don't think a limit on how long you can stay here would be such a bad idea.

I think it would. I think what you write does not make any sense at all, but I can understand the perspective it comes from, and it is reflected in an authentic way. I came to think of this statement by Jordan Maxwell: "You don't care, so you should go and watch the football". Something like that. Could that be what you should be doing now for some time to get some perspective on the importance of Avalon and the discussions going on here?


this made me laugh! oh man! ("i think what you write makes no sense at all"):bigsmile: i think i secretly agree with you Whitelove!

[Mike]

After Fukushima I really thought it was time to head for the hills.
And one massive threat after another was looming, and quakes were becoming stronger and more frequent.

Did I think I'd be on my third iPad by 2015, sitting in a comfortable home, and still checking my Here and Now thread?
No way, Josay.
Yet here we are. Things have changed out there, in fact, they have gotten worse.
The media lies are more blatant, for starters.
We still do have a job here, digging through that mess, and finding the truth.
But there are just too many who don't really care about the truth, or even being informed about world affairs.

The only thing I'm really pleased about is how many people have become aware of astrology since then,
and are on a committed self realization path. It does lead to some sort of enlightened state.
Those who click and get it are doing the world a huge service as their elevated vibrations are helping to hold the balance against the ever increasing dramas which the elite create to bring their agenda to a head.
But what about the rest, whose vibes are not only not becoming more frequent but are actually decreasing, and become determined to drag others down with them?
Making it still harder for the rest who are struggling to remain in good cheer?
I agree with you, Mike, some really need to ask themselves what they are doing here,
and why they still feel that whining against Bill and the mods is going to get them what they want.
And if they don't ask themselves, they need to be asked.
By yourself, the mods, and the rest of us, if necessary.


hi Ulli, i'm pleased about astrology becoming prevalent too. some may be surprised to hear me say this, but in all my experience with the paranormal or whatever we choose to call it, its been the astrologists that have made the biggest impression on me.

:flower:

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Interesting idea but I can't for the life of me see how it would revitalize the forum. Bill, this may simply be a case of you personally getting tired of it all. I can certainly relate to being fed-up with conspiracy theories and the state of world affairs today. I'm getting on in years myself and prefer to renovate my new cottage in the country these days. Admittedly, I do follow world affairs these days, but, yes the state of the world is now deteriorating rapidly and it's becoming increasingly difficult to hang in there. I do love coming back to the forum occasionally to see what's been happening and there's always interesting bits and pieces to ponder. So, no I don't see much point in re-booting unless there is a more coherent strategy behind how it will be done and what it will do for the forum.

BTW, I presume throwing everyone out would mean an email to all existing members offering them the opportunity to re-join the "new" Avalon within x number of days? A lot of the existing members would be wondering at that point what's "new" about the forum and why this was done in the first place but the members who have a real interest in the forum would obviously re-join immediately. So perhaps the only thing this exercise would achieve in the long run would be a nice neat cull of those members who have long lost interest. If the existing members are not invited to re-join, doesn't it become an exercise of "throwing the baby out with the bath water". Finding fresh and new members would depend on reach and I doubt Bill that you have the resources to market to a whole new community of members in an way that would result in a fresh audience. Anyway, where would they come from? Having said that, perhaps there is an entirely different way to re-boot the forum such as updating the forum software or just opening a sister forum with a different set of rules for moderators? Buggered if I know.


hey Andre, it appears youve confused me for Bill here...a mix up that will surely offend him;)

[raregem]

P A... is now the PA-kashic records........:typing:
where most have taken Journey of the blue pill........:rant:
here, thoughts to words are freely spoken.........:argue:
Would be ashamed to shorten its' will...........:cantina:

[Mike]

I am one of the oldies still hanging out at good ole PA.... I've made it through numerous "flea baths" here at the forum....and I still love participating.

If someone told me that I had to leave just because I was here time overdue... I'd get really p*ssed... it would like gassing the elderly to make room for (whom?) new voices?

Who ever said there was no more room for new voices on Avalon? As Bill wrote above, most of the folks here are relatively new... not many of us old folks (2008ers) around anymore, as the turnover has been at times massive... especially when some threads became cultish and eventually went tumbling down.

I really can't imagine getting bored with Avalon. Every day I check in and get lost among the new posts and the posts that I somehow missed days ago that come popping back up to the front line for me to read. Maybe the problem that Mike is having is that our reality has slowed down a bit recently, like it's holding its figurative breath, waiting for the next huge event to come along to burst our bubbles or make our day. I feel the heaviness of the silence, the waiting, too.

But.. I keep coming back to Avalon so I don't miss out on "it". I know "it" will be announced here long before it will reach the MSM. And I want to be amongst the first to know!

So here's to Avalon! Oldies and Newbies alike! May the waves of consciousness never forsake us!



its not the old members that i'd ask to move on specifically, it would be everyone. see, im an equal opportunity Hitler (or whatever lost n found was saying there..:sun:)

but...see, this is more of an exercise thread than anything...just me spouting off a little...brainstorming out loud..thats all.

in tihs hypothetical forum, members would move on after an arbitrary time, say 2 years, and possibly return later as mods or mentors so forth.

like i said in my op, i don't even know how i feel about the idea entirely...just kind of exploring it by writing about it

[Mike]

I hear what you are saying, but maybe what you need to do is not let it rule your life? Perhaps you just spend more time than you should on the forum? Over the last couple of years, this forum has been more of a blessing to me than you could ever know. I asked for and was granted healing energies that really worked. Having this collection of enlightened souls upon which to rely in trying times saw me through. I will always be grateful for that. That said, I do not make the forum a tick on my daily to do list. Sometimes I am active, others not so much. But what a comfort it is to know that out there, all over this orb, there are people who see the world the way that I do and can be relied upon to always do the right thing and all I have to do is log in to this platform. If I were kicked out, just by virtue of longevity (hopefully I haven't pissed too many people off), it would be a loss. Then I'd have to go join Godlike Productions and pray for the best (JUST kidding!). Powerful energy here. The majority good, some a little dark (thanks for that psychic attack last week, btw, but seriously... old hag? lol). In closing, and I mean no disrespect here... people are not disposable. Not in 3d, 4d, or in cyberspace. Just take a walk. Or a vacation. :)


thanks for the reply..

but please understand, the forum doesnt rule my life. this idea isnt an obsession or anything, just a whimsical idea ive committed to cyber code...

i do take walks tho...quite alot. good for the spirit, body, n mind. meditative too..

people are not disposable, thats correct my friend. i wouldnt be replacing them with robots, mind you, but more people;). so i guess you could say im 'pro people'...

but definitely not pro god like productions...so please stay put, my friend...youre quite the asset here

[ghostrider]

No matter what you do , human beings are creatures of habit , and will trample down the same path ... Evolution is a very slow process...

[Mike]

I understand where you're coming from Mike. When I first joined a few years ago it was a twice daily log on thing for me, I read every new post and soaked up every interview and every bit of info like a sponge. I felt obliged to contribute as much as possible and not loiter in the shadows.

Over time I got a little wiser to which threads and videos to give up precious spare time for and which to avoid completely just by the title and general tone the OP came across in.

I still check out the main page daily and scan through the latest threads. Some days I'm like a kid in a candy shop, excited that I've an evenings worth of interesting videos to watch and things to read into more. Other days there's just nothing...tumble weed moments...big sigh and resorting to Netflix or Ancient Alien re-runs ;)

But that's just life in general right? Some days are enlightening, overwhelming, others quiet, boring, others fun and educational.

People leave and people join, some go into stealth mode whilst others are constantly on the radar. The dynamics seem to constantly change. Just when you think there's nothing left to be said and don't bother to log on for a while cos its all a bit stagnant and you're reading nothing new...along comes something juicy to get your teeth into and the atmosphere perks up again and a new fresh rush of information emerges.

If its a first in, first out situation Mike then I guess you'd be further to the front of the queue than me, but I hope that's not the case cos despite me being one of those silent lurkers most of the time...I do quite like your input and humour. Your hat is quite cool too :P


hey Serenite, thanks for this great post! you've echo'd my experience perfectly. i used to love those kid in a candy store days, where every video represented something mysterious and fascinating and possibly mind shattering! but i feel like ive seen them all now...i sometimes feel like im desperately clinging to a persona i outgrew long ago. the stuff doesnt interest me like it used to..but damnit, i still want it to, ya know? :wink:


@Paula: well, youre right about me...as usual (damn you!:)) lost n found referred to this as well, and its likely true - im projecting my own anxieties and sense of impatience not only on the forum, but on pretty much everything in my life. how could any of it possibly live up to this sense of profound, staid unease and boredom and impatience and apprehension i feel on a daily basis? i acknowledge thats its a little unfair to the people around me, both physical and cyber. (p.s. folks, please see my personal page for donation information. a red 2015 ford mustang will run approx $30,000, and ill need your help:sun:)

@mrlama ..hey, i'm in brother. i'm a damn good mimic. we'll start with Duk and see how far we get haha

@Sandy, thanks for all the encouragement and kindness Sandy! this forum is like one giant foxhole, and im pleased to be in it with many of you

@Bill, theres a certain metaphysical angle to your explanation that appeals to me. ive often thought of it that way too..a collection of parts, yes, but also one living, breathing organism. hey ive heard god described that way before..;)

[Lost N Found]

No you would not be the Hitlister, Just that the Idea was along the same lines LOL. Being an equal opportunity entity well it's beer time so we meet up and have some beers and laughs. Here


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzEfBYcRT1w

Cheers

[Mike]

No you would not be the Hitlister, Just that the Idea was along the same lines LOL. Being an equal opportunity entity well it's beer time so we meet up and have some beers and laughs. Here


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzEfBYcRT1w

Cheers


cheers to you too my friend!
:beer::beer::beer:

[RunningDeer]

(p.s. folks, please see my personal page for donation information. a red 2015 ford mustang will run approx $30,000, and ill need your help:sun:)


This 2015 red Ford Mustang comes with an ocean.

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This 2015 red Ford Mustang comes with palm trees and no roof.

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This 2015 red Ford Mustang comes with a chauffeur.

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♡

[Dennis Leahy]

Hey Mike, do me. :~)

Topic: Why The Reset Button Movement is going to erupt into a full-blown national movement in spring of 2016.

[Constance]

.
personally, im done with conspiracy. ive od'd on it. if i were stuck on a desert island and had nothing but Icke books to keep me company, i'd likely use them as sh!t paper. and i like icke. i wouldnt watch another ancient aliens if you paid me. ive had it. enough already...no more..


Maybe, just maybe you are having a shift in consciousness?

Here's a wee thought for ye consideration...

Now that you know and understand the very depths of staleness, have you ever considered what the flip side of this could be? (apart from hitting the delete button on Avalon and starting all over again without us in it- I couldn't even consider it!!)

What is the most original life you could have for yourself right now?

What is it that fuels your passion, makes you crazy happy?

We have so much potential that still hasn't been plumbed here.

And I have to say that I would miss your post's Mike. Honestly, sometimes I don't think you know just how comedic and/or entertaining your posts can be in the midst of the most serious of threads.

I am often in stitches over things you write, pounding the table. Laughing like a silent hyena.

You bring comedic relief where you probably don't even intend to...

Have you ever seriously thought about another life as a stand-up comedian?

There's a movie that I watched once called Lantana

It is a small Australian movie that was very serious in its theme but oddly enough, it features a comedian who is well loved in Australia.

I was sitting in the movies, really getting into it when the actor Glenn Robbins suddenly makes his first appearance.

In the midst of all the serious drama, he pokes his head through the door. He is not even meaning to be funny but just one look at his face and I howled with laughter.

Love you Mike...

[Orph]

Ahhhh yes. The rabbit vs the turtle. Mike is the rabbit, Project Avalon is the turtle. I would suggest that Project Avalon should get the new Mustang GT instead of Mike, so that we can all keep up!

:car:

:sarcastic:

[Mike]

Hey Mike, do me. :~)

Topic: Why The Reset Button Movement is going to erupt into a full-blown national movement in spring of 2016.


didnt you see the disclaimer? it was in very fine print, i'll admit, but it said quite clearly that i cannot do a dennis leahy or wade frazier impression...

:cheers:

[Mike]

.
personally, im done with conspiracy. ive od'd on it. if i were stuck on a desert island and had nothing but Icke books to keep me company, i'd likely use them as sh!t paper. and i like icke. i wouldnt watch another ancient aliens if you paid me. ive had it. enough already...no more..


Maybe, just maybe you are having a shift in consciousness?

Here's a wee thought for ye consideration...

Now that you know and understand the very depths of staleness, have you ever considered what the flip side of this could be? (apart from hitting the delete button on Avalon and starting all over again without us in it- I couldn't even consider it!!)

What is the most original life you could have for yourself right now?

What is it that fuels your passion, makes you crazy happy?

We have so much potential that still hasn't been plumbed here.

And I have to say that I would miss your post's Mike. Honestly, sometimes I don't think you know just how comedic and/or entertaining your posts can be in the midst of the most serious of threads.

I am often in stitches over things you write, pounding the table. Laughing like a silent hyena.

You bring comedic relief where you probably don't even intend to...

Have you ever seriously thought about another life as a stand-up comedian?

There's a movie that I watched once called Lantana

It is a small Australian movie that was very serious in its theme but oddly enough, it features a comedian who is well loved in Australia.

I was sitting in the movies, really getting into it when the actor Glenn Robbins suddenly makes his first appearance.

In the midst of all the serious drama, he pokes his head through the door. He is not even meaning to be funny but just one look at his face and I howled with laughter.

Love you Mike...



there are many things i could say after reading this post, but i think its enough to say that i was quite moved by it...

lots of love to you breal!

[Dennis Leahy]

Actually, there are a boatload of new members, but (just the reality of forum dynamics), most never post or post a few times and then fade away (but often, do not leave.)

New folks = new ideas, new personalities, new perspectives...if they are willing to risk sharing themselves. Even old material (really old like Sumerian to slightly old like JFK) can have new, interesting perspectives (and yes, looping the same old viewpoint on anything will tire an audience.)

Longevity in a forum can be fun, as you yourself develop and evolve and see others evolving as well. (Everyone is evolving - for some, it stays subtle and slow, for others it is like a lightning storm, and probably for most, the evolutionary process is a "punctuated equilibrium" with obvious changes in random spurts, and subtle change being the norm - that predominantly feels like stagnation.)

We all have to ask ourselves, "why are you here?" Is what you want/need here? If yes, can you enhance it? If no, can you bring it?

[quiltinggrandma]

hello mike,,this sounds familiar to me when i come full circle.I agree with breal that you're "movin on up" congrats.Your wisdom is so much appreciated by me and i can tell by others.Did you know that you were there when i needed you?I have to look up to greybeard and denis,,,,and now i look up to you too.

[Mike]

hello mike,,this sounds familiar to me when i come full circle.I agree with breal that you're "movin on up" congrats.Your wisdom is so much appreciated by me and i can tell by others.Did you know that you were there when i needed you?I have to look up to greybeard and denis,,,,and now i look up to you too.


Are you guys trying to get me misty? Well congratulations!:blushing:

Quiltinggrandma, all I can say is Wow. Im blown away and honored to be held in this regard by you.

Thanks so much for your kind words!

[Mike]

Actually, there are a boatload of new members, but (just the reality of forum dynamics), most never post or post a few times and then fade away (but often, do not leave.)

New folks = new ideas, new personalities, new perspectives...if they are willing to risk sharing themselves. Even old material (really old like Sumerian to slightly old like JFK) can have new, interesting perspectives (and yes, looping the same old viewpoint on anything will tire an audience.)

Longevity in a forum can be fun, as you yourself develop and evolve and see others evolving as well. (Everyone is evolving - for some, it stays subtle and slow, for others it is like a lightning storm, and probably for most, the evolutionary process is a "punctuated equilibrium" with obvious changes in random spurts, and subtle change being the norm - that predominantly feels like stagnation.)

We all have to ask ourselves, "why are you here?" Is what you want/need here? If yes, can you enhance it? If no, can you bring it?


Great post Dennis. I've said this several times and I meant it - I wish we had 5000 active members posting daily. Might make your job just a wee bit more difficult tho...;)

[littleOne]

Nice thread Mike. I feel like I should reintroduce myself, because I am one of those members that never posts, but I check the forum at least once a day (and I really am not faded Dennis :bigsmile:)
Would I be allowed back in if we all got kicked out? I'm ashamed to say I do not provide anything to this forum, writing my thoughts is something hard for me and I usually find other members with whom I completely agree and who write so much better than I would ever be able to! But I have learned so much from this forum that I should probably request a name change ;)
I’ve noticed that lately we seem to be more interested in threads in which the discussion does not center on any theme other than how we feel in the forum, like for example this thread, and members discuss, battle, support each other and get annoyed with each other, all that also helps me grow, and I hope it does the same for all that participate/read. Thank you to you all!

[ulli]

Actually, there are a boatload of new members, but (just the reality of forum dynamics), most never post or post a few times and then fade away (but often, do not leave.)

New folks = new ideas, new personalities, new perspectives...if they are willing to risk sharing themselves. Even old material (really old like Sumerian to slightly old like JFK) can have new, interesting perspectives (and yes, looping the same old viewpoint on anything will tire an audience.)

Longevity in a forum can be fun, as you yourself develop and evolve and see others evolving as well. (Everyone is evolving - for some, it stays subtle and slow, for others it is like a lightning storm, and probably for most, the evolutionary process is a "punctuated equilibrium" with obvious changes in random spurts, and subtle change being the norm - that predominantly feels like stagnation.)

We all have to ask ourselves, "why are you here?" Is what you want/need here? If yes, can you enhance it? If no, can you bring it?


Great post Dennis. I've said this several times and I meant it - I wish we had 5000 active members posting daily. Might make your job just a wee bit more difficult tho...;)

Keep starting threads like this one and you'll have your 5000 posters in no time.

[21g]

As a bit of an equal oppurtunities Hitler myself ( im keeping that ),

This should be posted in the Non Duality section. Just sayin.

[KiwiElf]

I think any teacher can relate to this: it was kinda fun to go back to Uni as a lecturer (don't really like that term "lecturer," as our classes were very interactive), and teach new students new skills based on our own work experience since we had been students ourselves (which didn't always match the textbooks). ie Marketing 101 STILL teaches the same old, unexpanded "4P's" of Marketing: (Product, Price, Place & Promotion) and fails to take into account the reality of 2 extra's: Planning, and most importantly, People. Without the latter, the other 4 can rapidly fall apart. ;)

Likewise, it was (and continues to be) a fun and progressive step when computers arrived and everything changed.

For the most part, I've thoroughly enjoyed the sharing of material and different perspectives that new members with new ideas have bought to Avalon, even if sometimes we don't agree. Evolving... Change & growth are part of life. :sun:

[araucaria]

I take it, Mike, you are suggesting the forum should be consumed with moderation; you are right: if you don’t, you get… moderated ;)

You say you could do a passable imitation of most members’ posts on a given subject. This could of course be tested by setting a poster and a subject, and having the two of you PM your submissions to a neutral member, who could then post them side by side. I wouldn’t recommend doing this, for reasons I shall explain. This comes perilously close to the ordinary sendup, which is disrespectful because it focusses on the funny side of nonessentials relating to form and neglects content altogether.

Take a look at this video of Novak Djokovic imitating fellow champions Nadal and Maria Sharapova.
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He takes easy targets, and for greater effect he exaggerates their personal tics before the ball is ever struck. When he hits the ball, he stops. But the important thing in tennis is what happens after the ball starts getting hit. You can get on the other side of the net and predict exactly what they like doing and don’t like doing; you can even try to do the same, but the point is that most of the time, whoever you are, you are almost certainly going to lose. In other words, what makes people tick is not their tics. Young Djokovic learnt his lesson and started beating Nadal by playing his own game.

For posting style, Bill Ryan is probably a very easy target. And yet, for wisdom of content, he is in a league of his own, meaning that his imitable language produces what is basically unpredictable, creative, inimitable content. Anyone has this personal touch to some degree, and it is the very thing that we are all trying to develop together. And we don’t have it all the time; we are practising, which involves a great deal of repetition. Even a game of tennis can get pretty boring, but repetitiveness is the baseline from which the strokes of genius that maintain our interest are produced at somewhat irregular intervals. You can’t have those without the background routine. Why? Because the flashes of genius themselves exist as deviations from and within that routine, usually with something extra added, sometimes something removed. This explains why when you watch the edited highlights after the event, you miss the actual experience. Improvement and excellence are merely taking this process further in terms of quality and quantity, and are both the cause and the effect.

Now, did you see that coming? Maybe you did (I’m not sure I did!). But I still made my point, a point worth making but not quite one that you were making or would make. But your post was the trigger, so thank you!

[transiten]

...
where are you guys on this? i don't think a limit on how long you can stay here would be such a bad idea.

I think it would. I think what you write does not make any sense at all, but I can understand the perspective it comes from, and it is reflected in an authentic way. I came to think of this statement by Jordan Maxwell: "You don't care, so you should go and watch the football". Something like that. Could that be what you should be doing now for some time to get some perspective on the importance of Avalon and the discussions going on here?


this made me laugh! oh man! ("i think what you write makes no sense at all"):bigsmile: i think i secretly agree with you Whitelove!

I think Mike is slightly drastically joking by saying "Kicking everyone out" don't you? ;) I can definitely feel fed up with the Forum at times which doesn't mean I relly would wish to take everyone with me if I should leave.

I have the tendency to get stuck with whatever I engage in so I have healthy breaks from internet every time I visit my family on the East-cost and live "IRL" for a while (which is not the case of course since Avalon also is IRL..depends of who makes the definition)

If I stay away for a longer time I almost start to question this parallell reality that Avalon is which is a healthy way of remembering the feeling of what it's like not knowing anything about what's discussed here. Talking about separate dimensions already here on Planet Earth :wink:

And guess if i appreciate Mikes comment on astrology :star::star::star:

[Napping]

"The only thing I'm really pleased about is how many people have become aware of astrology since then,
and are on a committed self realization path. It does lead to some sort of enlightened state. "

Hi Ulli,

I'd really like to know where to start when it comes to learning about astrology....until hearing people like you discuss it on avalon, I've seen it as nothing short of pseudo science, but it has my attention and I'm willing to consider it's merit.

Apologies this is completely off topic, I would have sent a pm, but I'm sure there are others interested in astrology 101.

Thanks in advance,

Matt

[transiten]

"The only thing I'm really pleased about is how many people have become aware of astrology since then,
and are on a committed self realization path. It does lead to some sort of enlightened state. "

Hi Ulli,

I'd really like to know where to start when it comes to learning about astrology....until hearing people like you discuss it on avalon, I've seen it as nothing short of pseudo science, but it has my attention and I'm willing to consider it's merit.

Apologies this is completely off topic, I would have sent a pm, but I'm sure there are others interested in astrology 101.

Thanks in advance,

Matt

:clapping: What's happening here! I've long pondered the fact that so few are interested in astrology on Avalon. There even is a thread dedicated to that started by betoobig who is not an expert but interested and noone except me has commented in that thread......

If we knew the exact time and date for the birth of Avalon Forum one can see what energies are at play here, would be really interesting to say the least...

[animovado]

When PA is getting stale for me or I'm feeling exhausted, I kick myself out of PA. I shift my focus on other, more exciting things and stay away - sometimes for months.
PA is changing all the time like everything, but sometimes I'm attached so much to the idea of continuity and uniformity of my experience that I get myself locked in to a certain perspective.
That needs a break.

[Linderlou]

I'm one of those newbies that doesn't post much (only a few comments here and there) but enjoy visiting and reading various posts everyday. I've welcomed new thoughts and ideas which has lead to more research on my part to figure out what's true for me. I have found a lot of valuable information over the last few months... I feel like I'm stepping into a library every visit - what section shall I go to today??

[ulli]

"The only thing I'm really pleased about is how many people have become aware of astrology since then,
and are on a committed self realization path. It does lead to some sort of enlightened state. "

Hi Ulli,

I'd really like to know where to start when it comes to learning about astrology....until hearing people like you discuss it on avalon, I've seen it as nothing short of pseudo science, but it has my attention and I'm willing to consider it's merit.

Apologies this is completely off topic, I would have sent a pm, but I'm sure there are others interested in astrology 101.

Thanks in advance,

Matt

Napping, I'm self taught in nearly everything I do.
The moment someone tries to guide me in a specific direction I begin to lose interest.
It's just how I operate, having powerful Aquarian traits.
For me the first step is to find my own specific question. Then the answer becomes easy.

So here is your first question: where to start?
Answer: The Internet
Since this is off topic why not go to my profile page and click on "Started threads",
Then scroll down a bit and you will find my long thread on astrology.

Then go to the other astrology thread, the one transiten mentioned.
Lots of answers in both threads.

[transiten]

Now I start to hesitate a bit, gosh luckily not everyone on Avalon is interested in astrology or it would be a heavy burden for us doing astrology to educate and cast and interpret all these charts :eek:

[ulli]

Now I start to hesitate a bit, gosh luckily not everyone on Avalon is interested in astrology or it would be a heavy burden for us doing astrology to educate and cast and interpret all these charts :eek:

Instead of a question and answer type of discussion group it just became a-please-look-at-my-chart thread.
Which in the beginning I did, wanting to please and being fairly good natured. (Have moon in Taurus)

But it became an avalanche with people who had joined the forum purely for the chance of getting a free chart reading sitting on my waiting list. I still have that box somewhere with over 70 members birth data waiting to be attended.
I stopped posting on the thread because I simply couldn't cope anymore.
Not reading many charts at all any more, but still encouraging people to learn how it's done.
It is really quite simple nowadays. It is just that, study, read, think.

No psychic abilities required.
Although they somehow start to develop all by themselves the more one learns.

[RunningDeer]

Ulli’s thread: Astrology as a "Know Yourself" tool (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?25260-Astrology-as-a-Know-Yourself-tool&p=262872&viewfull=1#post262872)


Apologies this is completely off topic, I would have sent a pm, but I'm sure there are others interested in astrology 101.

…So here is your first question: where to start?

[Lifebringer]

I've kept the tab up a few times as I slayed the troll dragons in the political beast. Is that what you mean by spending too much time? I find it refreshing to pop in from time to time when I need to meditate after a long battle against lies and providing links. I's like a good comfortable room of relaxing that is necessary in such times.

[Sunny-side-up]

WoW lot of replys.

Just a simple view point.
Life in the physical is a continual learning curve and could in effect by timeless as your non-physical 'Soul',
you just go on learning and or recalculating your position in it.
in this great forum I never get bored, always a new angle form a member for me to think about/learn from or disagree with,
said member might be a Old-member or a new-member :)

Don't forget that looking through the posts here in Avalon dose not make a closed-shop, it's a meeting place.
Links sprout off out of Avalon to every corner of the internet :)

[Mike]

Nice thread Mike. I feel like I should reintroduce myself, because I am one of those members that never posts, but I check the forum at least once a day (and I really am not faded Dennis :bigsmile:)
Would I be allowed back in if we all got kicked out? I'm ashamed to say I do not provide anything to this forum, writing my thoughts is something hard for me and I usually find other members with whom I completely agree and who write so much better than I would ever be able to! But I have learned so much from this forum that I should probably request a name change ;)
I’ve noticed that lately we seem to be more interested in threads in which the discussion does not center on any theme other than how we feel in the forum, like for example this thread, and members discuss, battle, support each other and get annoyed with each other, all that also helps me grow, and I hope it does the same for all that participate/read. Thank you to you all!



Hi Littleone,..Thanks for coming out of the shadows to post on this thread! I appreciate it.

I enjoyed reading you, but I disagree on 1 vital point: I think you express yourself very very well! And I hope to see more of your posts in the future.

Thanks again!

[Mike]

@aracuria: im always impressed with your thoughtfulness and your logic and reasoning skills..and finally your ability to get it all down in an impressive way....you'd be damn tough to imitate, let me tell you! For the record tho, my comment.on imitation was mostly tongue in cheek..

@transiten: yes, very true..the idea of.just throwing everyone out was more of an exaggeration than anything else...what can I say, I liked the way it looked as a thread title;). But I need to thank you because it was one.of your great posts in the here n now thread that got me.rolling here lately..:hug:

[FinallyNow]

I have not been on PA long and I too have had it with "conspiracy" but unfortunately get pulled into it at times by things in my life that are painful and I don't understand. I watched several of the earliest project camelot interviews like many of you. I'm just trying to rise above and sometimes I have posted when things are challenging. It seems we as a society still don't have proper outlets for healing nor can it be addressed in context of what's happening to people on various levels throughout the US especially and the world.

I have found valuable insights here and generally feel good when logging on. Even if I have not found many friends directly here I know we are connecting from higher places and I don't even need to know who it actually is. I appreciate it anyway.

Thank you.

[Brightstar]

Both old and new members have something to contribute and all are at different stages of developing and waking up, thats what makes Avalon so unique, we all have a voice here!!

Personally I have become so weary with the speed of information that comes before me everyday, keeping "in the know" takes so much time and effort and usually leaves me feeling quite despairing of the state of the planet as we reach the end of 2015.....

What next????

[transiten]

@aracuria: im always impressed with your thoughtfulness and your logic and reasoning skills..and finally your ability to get it all down in an impressive way....you'd be damn tough to imitate, let me tell you! For the record tho, my comment.on imitation was mostly tongue in cheek..

@transiten: yes, very true..the idea of.just throwing everyone out was more of an exaggeration than anything else...what can I say, I liked the way it looked as a thread title;). But I need to thank you because it was one.of your great posts in the here n now thread that got me.rolling here lately..:hug:

Mike, someone thought you should start with Stand-Up Comedy, I've been doing that mixed with singing...mindsets recognizing eachother?

[Carmody]

@aracuria: im always impressed with your thoughtfulness and your logic and reasoning skills..and finally your ability to get it all down in an impressive way....you'd be damn tough to imitate, let me tell you! For the record tho, my comment.on imitation was mostly tongue in cheek..

@transiten: yes, very true..the idea of.just throwing everyone out was more of an exaggeration than anything else...what can I say, I liked the way it looked as a thread title;). But I need to thank you because it was one.of your great posts in the here n now thread that got me.rolling here lately..:hug:

I've never watched a single episode of aliens whatever, and I've never read one of David's books. Although I respect him greatly.

My advice is to seek detachment. :p

[Mike]

I have not been on PA long and I too have had it with "conspiracy" but unfortunately get pulled into it at times by things in my life that are painful and I don't understand. I watched several of the earliest project camelot interviews like many of you. I'm just trying to rise above and sometimes I have posted when things are challenging. It seems we as a society still don't have proper outlets for healing nor can it be addressed in context of what's happening to people on various levels throughout the US especially and the world.

I have found valuable insights here and generally feel good when logging on. Even if I have not found many friends directly here I know we are connecting from higher places and I don't even need to know who it actually is. I appreciate it anyway.

Thank you.

Right! "Pulled in" is a great way to put it! Even when youre trying to avoid the information it tends to suck you in sometimes..

Its as if youre not choosing the information, its choosing you. The problem is, once you start delving into the biggest issues like ufo's, shadow.gov, nature of the.universe etc, nothing else seems relevant. And thats a good thing in some ways...as one can discard alot of nonsense accumulated along the way. But this stuff can become a bit of an addiction....and i seem to have finally burnt out, for better or worse

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@aracuria: im always impressed with your thoughtfulness and your logic and reasoning skills..and finally your ability to get it all down in an impressive way....you'd be damn tough to imitate, let me tell you! For the record tho, my comment.on imitation was mostly tongue in cheek..

@transiten: yes, very true..the idea of.just throwing everyone out was more of an exaggeration than anything else...what can I say, I liked the way it looked as a thread title;). But I need to thank you because it was one.of your great posts in the here n now thread that got me.rolling here lately..:hug:

I've never watched a single episode of aliens whatever, and I've never read one of David's books. Although I respect him greatly.

My advice is to seek detachment. :p



Well played:)

[Mike]

Hey Transiten, thats quite possible!

My hat goes off to you, that takes a ton of guts! Any way I can see your stuff?

Theres a 'laugh factory' here in the city..and it's the strangest thing - I cant get myself to go there, even to watch other comics. I know in my heart of hearts I have to try it at some point, but I havent quite worked up the courage yet. I'll get there. Ive been writing down things I think might work for years...a whole notebook worth of material...so we'll see

[Mike]

Both old and new members have something to contribute and all are at different stages of developing and waking up, thats what makes Avalon so unique, we all have a voice here!!

Personally I have become so weary with the speed of information that comes before me everyday, keeping "in the know" takes so much time and effort and usually leaves me feeling quite despairing of the state of the planet as we reach the end of 2015.....

What next????

Could have pulled this from my own mind....I agree entirely.

Thanks.

[greybeard]

@aracuria: im always impressed with your thoughtfulness and your logic and reasoning skills..and finally your ability to get it all down in an impressive way....you'd be damn tough to imitate, let me tell you! For the record tho, my comment.on imitation was mostly tongue in cheek..

@transiten: yes, very true..the idea of.just throwing everyone out was more of an exaggeration than anything else...what can I say, I liked the way it looked as a thread title;). But I need to thank you because it was one.of your great posts in the here n now thread that got me.rolling here lately..:hug:

I've never watched a single episode of aliens whatever, and I've never read one of David's books. Although I respect him greatly.

My advice is to seek detachment. :p

I like the expression non involvement.
Its possible to be very aware of what's happening without diving in with opinion, or attempting to change others, --you can enjoy the river without jumping in.

Chris

[tessfreq]

Hi Mike,
I think you have expressed the essence of what I’ve been feeling for a while. (Nothing to do with PA) It’s an awareness of the loops playing out and how long they’ve been playing. The loops are endless, big and small. Like, all things political to why I’m still offended about a conversation from 10 years ago. These loops feel repetitive, useless, and like ‘busy work’. The internet has helped in creating/exasperating these loops, but forums like this help me articulate my thoughts and get a reading of the ‘essence of the day’, if you will, on a global level with it’s diverse membership. I optimistically believe we are in process and this is part of it.

This quote popped into my head in reading your first post.

'And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. --Anais Nin

[Lost N Found]

Tired of conspiracy theories? Well here are some that keep on dealing with them so they will not be brain sqeezed. OMG you mean to tell me that we could be thrown to the wolves?
Geez Mike you gotta give us a chance to get more tinfoil. My poor fellow are already thinking that the damn mice are taking over their world.

[transiten]

Hey Transiten, thats quite possible!

My hat goes off to you, that takes a ton of guts! Any way I can see your stuff?

Theres a 'laugh factory' here in the city..and it's the strangest thing - I cant get myself to go there, even to watch other comics. I know in my heart of hearts I have to try it at some point, but I havent quite worked up the courage yet. I'll get there. Ive been writing down things I think might work for years...a whole notebook worth of material...so we'll see

Aha! Did the poster know about that? Go for it!

It was not "strict stand-up" more like a show but pple actually laughed their asses off. My main occupation has been as a singer, musiscian and voice-coach but due to Lyme I got 4 years ago i haven't been active.

I think humour is a vital component in life - esp when dealing with deadly serious matters like here on Avalon - as long as it's not at someone else's expense and also should involve your own shortcomings.

There are special threads for that but I tend to be rebellious and want to sneak it into "serious" threads sometimes to lighten up the vibes.

It would be easy to make fun of things debated here on Avalon "out there" but then again I would feel like betraying what i believe in, it would have to be Stand-Up for geeks like us and we are not that many! I actually would never joke again about certain things I did before "waking up".

[Constance]

Aha! Did the poster know about that? Go for it!



It just seemed so obvious to me that Mike is a natural born comedian.
He has a natural gift for humour and it shines through on Avalon.
But, it may also be that I was having a little intuition too about Mike? :dancing:

Mike's humour reminds me of the late and great soul, Robin Williams...




Theres a 'laugh factory' here in the city..and it's the strangest thing - I cant get myself to go there, even to watch other comics. I know in my heart of hearts I have to try it at some point, but I havent quite worked up the courage yet. I'll get there. Ive been writing down things I think might work for years...a whole notebook worth of material...so we'll see

Great stuff Mike! I have my fingers and my toes crossed for you here.

I see you up on stage Mike...

Here is one of my favourite Robin Williams skits...improvisation is what he did best :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJAbr5SZcsQ