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chancy
11th December 2015, 21:47
Hello Everyone:
Every one in awhile an article comes along like this one that I can definitely relate too!
A little background to why this story is of interest to me. I had come across equipment that I needed in business and Poland was the leader in this field throughout the world.
I went to Poland in 1999 and made a deal with the company after a few trips to Warsaw. From a small mom and pop business grew a huge company. In 2006 the mom and pop gave the business to their kids. This is when the problems started. The contract which the mom and pop signed with my company was broken. By 2008 they had virtually destroyed relations with myself and my company. Millions of dollars were lost including future sales of the very equipment we put on the map for Poland.
During the years I have spent much time in Poland and visited with hundreds of people. I learned that Poland was a very proud country and alot of the business were not so honest...
I told this company that their actions would come back to bite them in the .ss!
Now 2015 and we have this article that will definitely bite their business in the .ss.
I like Poland and the people. Unfortunately their are people that deserve what they get and this is what they get.....
chancy

Link:
http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21679470-new-government-poland-has-made-awful-start-europes-new-headache?spc=scode&spv=xm&ah=9d7f7ab945510a56fa6d37c30b6f1709

Article:

Europe’s new headache POLAND

The new government in Poland has made an awful start
Dec 5th 2015
THE genius of democracy is that voters can boot out a government without damaging the state. But sometimes a new government, not content with whisking the old one from the podium, will take a hammer to the stage itself. That is the worry in Poland. The populist Law and Justice party (PiS), swept back into power after eight years in opposition, is remaking the country in a hurry (see article). It has violated the constitution to replace the previous government’s appointees on the constitutional court, put partisans in charge of the intelligence agencies, purged officials and backtracked on Poland’s commitments to the European Union. When PiS was last in power, its tenure was marked by erratic policies and nationalist paranoia; it appears not to have mellowed with time.

Poland matters. It is the anchor of east-central Europe, the region’s biggest country and largest economy by far. It has been the flagship of the EU’s eastward expansion, proof that democracy and the rule of law can spread. Its stability, prosperity and pro-European orientation have won it respect and diplomatic clout. If PiS wants that era to end, it is going about it the right way. The party’s leader, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, admires Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orban, who says he favours “illiberal democracy”. PiS is taking its first steps in the same direction. An EU weakened by crisis is ill-prepared to resist it.
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Obviously, there is nothing wrong with Poles deciding to turf out their government. PiS won the presidential and parliamentary elections this year because voters were fed up with the centrist party, Civic Platform, which had acquired an aura of complacency and sleaze. PiS’s animating drive is hostility to Poland’s liberal, secular, urban elite. It is a motley coalition of social conservatives, Catholic nationalists, Eurosceptics, anti-corruption zealots, conspiracy theorists, protectionists and agrarians. Like many populist parties, it mixes illiberal foreign and cultural policies with statist and short-sighted economics. One of its first plans is to lower the retirement age, reversing a reform by the previous government. This is fiscally reckless in rapidly ageing Poland, but popular with the greying voters who back PiS.

The last time PiS was in power, in 2005-07, it picked fights with Germany and created an atmosphere of hysterical unpredictability. Party officials advanced a theory that the post-Soviet Polish state was secretly run by communist-era apparatchiks. After PiS lost power, when a plane crash in Smolensk in 2010 killed President Lech Kaczynski (Jaroslaw’s twin brother) and dozens of others, many in the party alleged that Russia had brought it down—and that Civic Platform and its leader, Donald Tusk, had covered this up.

During the elections, the party ran a moderate, Beata Szydlo, for prime minister. But since it took power, Mr Kaczynski has pulled the strings. Antoni Macierewicz, one of the worst plane-crash conspiracy theorists, is now defence minister. The new culture minister threatens to purge the public broadcasters. PiS opposes gay rights, and President Andrzej Duda has vetoed a sex-change law for fear that pregnant women might become men before giving birth. Mr Kaczynski warns that Muslim migrants “carry diseases”. There are murmurs of putting Mr Tusk, now president of the European Council, on trial.

This lurch towards populism will hurt Poland. But the broader worry is that it will cripple the EU on critical issues, particularly the refugee crisis. The European Commission’s plan for redistributing migrants across the union faces dissent from Hungary and two other members of the Visegrad group, Slovakia and the Czech Republic. A deal was reached only with the backing of Visegrad’s fourth member, Poland. The PiS government is now threatening to renege. The Visegrad group lacks the votes to block commission decisions, but if it becomes an illiberal bulwark, Europe’s east-west divide will become a chasm.

That way lies madness

The conspiracy theories that PiS favours play on Polish feelings of victimhood which are deeply held—and deeply self-indulgent. The facts may seem obvious, but they need restating. The peaceful collapse of communism in Poland was a triumph, not a plot. The plane crash in Smolensk was an accident. The past 25 years have transformed the country into a European heavyweight; EU membership was essential to that success. Good relations with Germany benefit Poland, especially in opposing Russian aggression in Ukraine.

In normal times Europe could afford to wait for PiS to come to terms with reality. The new government has only just started its vandalism. PiS might yet correct course or fall victim to poor organisation and infighting. Poland has institutions that are capable of defending their independence. It takes a lot to ruin a nation.

But these are not normal times. The EU faces challenges, from refugees to climate change to Vladimir Putin. Countering them will be much easier with Polish partners who are part of the solution, not part of the problem. The alternative is a Europe that cannot get things done and the slow decay of Poland’s institutions. Its citizens should tell PiS to stop now.

A Voice from the Mountains
11th December 2015, 23:03
The conspiracy theories that PiS favours play on Polish feelings of victimhood which are deeply held—and deeply self-indulgent. The facts may seem obvious, but they need restating. The peaceful collapse of communism in Poland was a triumph, not a plot. The plane crash in Smolensk was an accident. The past 25 years have transformed the country into a European heavyweight; EU membership was essential to that success. Good relations with Germany benefit Poland, especially in opposing Russian aggression in Ukraine.

This is the kind of writing that strikes me as pure propaganda and devoid of any real significance. I say this as someone who knows little to nothing about the specifics of the situation on the ground there, but just judging by the poor writing.

Examples:


The peaceful collapse of communism in Poland was a triumph, not a plot.

This statement is obviously meant to appeal to emotion. Whether a "triumph" or a "plot," these are just words that indicate nothing but someone's point of view, and so what it's arguing has nothing to do with specific, factual events, but how someone should think about what has happened. In other words this immediately tips me off as being fairly blatant propagandizing.


The plane crash in Smolensk was an accident.

Again, being totally unfamiliar with the details here, this also tells me something. It tells me that there were questions raised about this plane crash by the Polish people and that they are still not satisfied that it was an "accident." If I had to guess I would say some important officials were on that plane. But of course, without bothering with any reasoning or evidence, this article again wants to tell you what to think in black and white terms.


The past 25 years have transformed the country into a European heavyweight; EU membership was essential to that success.

If the Polish people themselves considered what happened in their country to be a "success" then something tells me they would not be as eager to once again replace their government. A country can makes lots of money that looks beautiful on paper, while the people themselves get poorer and poorer. The article of course makes no mention of this fact but I bring it up because it seems typical of what's been happening lately in the unregulated capitalism of western nations, and would be an obvious reason for dissatisfaction. In other words just because a "country" is financially successful does not mean the common people themselves are seeing any of it.


Good relations with Germany benefit Poland, especially in opposing Russian aggression in Ukraine.

This is also a meaningless statement, to say that "good relations" with Germany have provided a "benefit" to Poland. A benefit in whose eyes? The Polish peoples'? I wonder if the author of this article bothered to poll them. Maybe a benefit in the Germans' eyes, and the rest of the NATO nations and the western cabal in general?

Also, the coup d'etat in Ukraine was foreshadowed by NATO (ie, US) military build-up in eastern Europe during the winter games in Sochi, and Victoria Nuland being recorded on the phone talking about manipulating Ukranian politics for the benefit of the US's interests, and even against the interests of the EU. And this of course was followed by armed and violent insurrections that overthrew the democratically-elected government of Ukraine and replaced it with an administration hostile to Russia. Propaganda is truly what it takes to spin this whole series of events as being anything even remotely attributable to Russia.


So basically what this article has told me is the opposite of what it intended: that the Polish people are angry and doing something about it. What they end up doing may or may not be to their benefit in the end but I don't buy all of the western butt-kissing for a minute. Capitalism might be an effective system compared to Communism, as far as the historical examples we have seen so far, but only if it is regulated to prevent corruption and monopolization of the markets, which is not being done. And we also need to do a lot of house cleaning, here in the US, and in the UK, France, Germany, Canada, Australia, Japan, China, Brazil...

Baby Steps
11th December 2015, 23:21
The economist is the ultimate establishment mouthpiece. They are arrogantly slapping Poland on the wrist for daring to challenge the euro absorption of 5 million Syrians who would be still happy at home if the same establishment had the moral fibre to stand up to the corruption in their midst that runs the genocidal war. What a monumental pack of hypocrites.

Carmody
12th December 2015, 00:08
The plane crash in Smolensk was an accident.

He was about to create Poland's own internally supported and issued currency and put them on their own gold standard.

Basically, he was about to break away from all the monied powers. To break from all the given factions.

And much more.


Then the plane goes down.

Kennedy died for similar 'crimes'. Not that I'm comparing the two but comparing the reasons behind their elimination.

Morbid
12th December 2015, 16:44
The plane crash in Smolensk was an accident.

He was about to create Poland's own internally supported and issued currency and put them on their own gold standard.

Basically, he was about to break away from all the monied powers. To break from all the given factions.

And much more.


Then the plane goes down.

Kennedy died for similar 'crimes'. Not that I'm comparing the two but comparing the reasons behind their elimination.
also note how cabal desperately tried to blame russia (putin) through msm. only after navigating the scenario in a very clever way, they eventually written it off as an 'accident'..