Acceptance of Death and the Meaning of Life

[Clear Light]

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YouTube Description : We have a culture to live life as if to survive and to hush the idea of death, to avoid this topic of discussion. Alan Watts explores this taboo with a different approach, that death and life are like fronts and backs of the same coin. Death gives meaning to life and gives us the opportunity to understand what life is all about.

Um, IF you watch this video you may or may not find a sort of reassurance from Alan Watts in which everything is fine AS-IS ... he paints a very different picture of Life and Death to the one our "Western" Culture has imprinted upon us since the moment of our Birth !

Now I maintain it is absolutely possible (and desirable) to Free one's Heart from any Fear of Death and so put the Magic back into Life !


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[Cara]

Thank you Clear Blue Skies for sharing!

I have felt that death is okay and a very natural part of life ever since I was a little girl.

Recently, I have spent a lot of time considering death and my life in the context of my death... Not in a morbid and depressed kind of way, but more as an exploration about what it means to be alive.

I have learnt that most people are pretty horrified when I share that I have been thinking of death... Perhaps they are fearing the unknown or the physical process of dying which might include pain and illness for some.

Maybe death is a hard thing to look at too closely... It leads to all sorts of challenging questions, such as:
- am I living life in a way that is aligned with what's important to me?
- am I living a life that's needed in the world (for those with more philanthropic orientation)?
- am I making the contribution or having the impact I want to in this life?
- will people notice when I am gone?

And leading on from this...
- Do I really matter?

All tough questions to ask of oneself with honesty and depth... Especially when you find the answer is more "no" and "not so much" than "yes".

[RunningDeer]

http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Recovered/writing_zpsd26h7e8a.GIF The masks and the false beliefs are living death.
Dying moment to moment brings new perspective and freedom.
I chuck out all that's reached its sell by date.
I call the process green-bag-it.

♡

[ghostrider]

The human being bears an immortal spirit that does not die nor sleep in the deepest sleep, it records thoughts actions and feelings, it can tell him if his thoughts are correct if he has learned to pay attention to it ... the spirit will incarnate in a materal body for 60-80 billion years until it reaches half spirit half material, then a further 60-80 million years until it no longer needs a material body ... it reaches the first stage of pure spirit form , and enters the level arahat arasata ... then further learning until it enters the fine spirit level of Petale where it will one day merge back with the creation from where it came , adding to creation , knowledge, beauty, and wisdom , to help one day to create new galaxies, stars, suns, and Universes... source-Semjase , plejaren woman... this is the meaning of life , to learn , evolve, and help creation create new worlds ...

[Sunny-side-up]

at point 2:49
'a situation that evil can't deal with'

But evil might lay a trap just the same!

The 'White Light' that is my only fear of death, and that I could fall for the trick and not have OPEN EYES.
To have OPEN EYES at that point and look around first! make the right choice and not get HI-Jacked, memory wiped and placed down here again as one of the CLOSED-EYED sheeple.

Many posts and great discussions have happened here in Avalon concerning 'The White Light' as a trick/trap.

It has been one of my greatest experiences to come to the conclusion that that is a trap, it seems I must at-least tell others (When appropriate) that there could be a trap just at the point of leaving your body (Which some call death).
From my personal experiences, I don't fear death and feel quite content that if there is a trap (I do believe there is) that by knowing of it's possibility I will not fall into it!

That feel like one of my soul path achievements, maybe part of my mission in this life time!

Also mentioned in the vid is something along the words of
'you knew a bomb was coming, you heard the whistle'

Even at that point my experiences have shown 'Don't automatically just give up'!

Things that used to be called miricales can happen.
I say 'Things that used to be called miricales' because if it's not your time to go over then you won't. More than that though, YOU can avoid it by your own intent and or untapped powers, you CAN slide and or JUMP TIME-LINES, this only needs to be by MINUTE DEGREES. I have learnt from personal experience that EVERY SECOND can be SPLIT, SPLIT to the point where you can change the outcome and so NEVER-JUST-GIVE-IN, UNLESS of course that is what you need/won't to do!
If you feel/know it should't be your time, and that you still have something to do, well! don't give in!

But YES don't fear death or life

[FinallyNow]

Death was never a challenge for me. Thank you for posting this. I carried this approach most of my life you see.

However, it was in the context to some extent of seemingly not caring for myself or some of the other beautiful souls around me to the degree that I might now. I got over every fear that ever came up quite quickly around the age of... I believe it was 8 or 9. I came upon things and dove in. As a younger child of 6 or 7 I was barred for a length of time from playing with my friend around the corner because I was " too dangerous."

What happened was as I started becoming more myself and shedding this I don't care approach what comes up is an opposition to death that never appeared to be present in my younger years. That is, a caring for life so much that all of a sudden it's something more worthwhile than the chances one took as a youth. The people become more important, not less.

So there's this thing that can happen that when one begins to care more about life then all these fears that they didn't know they had or even really don't have rush back in to play with ones psyche in this game of awakening and shaking off ones own dross and in the meantime shedding those that have assisted in perpetuating that very dross and love of the darker view.

[Clear Light]

at point 2:49
'a situation that evil can't deal with'


Oh, no, he says "Ego" not "Evil" :)

[Pam]

I find the nonacceptance of death in our culture really interesting. For years I worked in a field in nursing where patients were close to deaths door. I always gave them the opportunity to discuss death, and how they feel about it, as I was aware that it is a taboo subject in many families, my own included. I would say that 95% of the time the patient refused the opportunity. I believe that death has such a status as the boogyman and there is so much fear and discomfort talking about it that it will never be discussed or will only be approached when death is very, very near. Acceptance sometimes occurs in the last hours of life, then there is a beautiful peace in the air that is quite wonderful.

[zen deik]

I ,like Paul ,die daily, at least I hope so,,,

[Clear Light]

I ,like Paul ,die daily, at least I hope so,,,

Ah, yes, ultimately our deathless essence (so-to-speak) was never born and never dies ... inasmuch that truly what we are is the unborn, unarisen, moment-to-moment expression of the unknown knowing itself in a multitude of Ways eh ?

Now, practically, pondering the source of being, the question "Who (or what) am I ?" tends to direct 'my' Awareness in the correct direction !

[Sunny-side-up]

at point 2:49
'a situation that evil can't deal with'


Oh, no, he says "Ego" not "Evil" :)

Oh my apologies all 'EGO' not 'EVIL'
Maybe Freudian slip there?
Maybe ego is a close relative of evil ha.
Maybe ego it's self tricks and sets Traps at the point of passing, making us come back as sheeple, so it can continue it's self pleasure!

[Clear Light]

at point 2:49
'a situation that evil can't deal with'


Oh, no, he says "Ego" not "Evil" :)

Oh my apologies all 'EGO' not 'EVIL'
Maybe Freudian slip there?
Maybe ego is a close relative of evil ha.
Maybe ego it's self tricks and sets Traps at the point of passing, making us come back as sheeple, so it can continue it's self pleasure!

Maybe LOL ... but I doubt there are many so-called Sheeple here at Avalon !!! :)

[lake]

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[Clear Light]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G79EHVjLgwU

Oh, to "Awaken" Spiritually (IMHO) is to realise the falseness of the Separate Self ... it's like the facade of the Ego can no longer be maintained and in releasing the idea that it's "in control" so-to-speak, a whole new perspective is seen !

Chuang Tzu : “I dreamt I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky; then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am a man ?”

[greybeard]

Nasargadata said Ask what you were before you were born--you were never born and never die.
That which has no beginning has no end.

I believe that the whole purpose of this incarnation is "Realisation of the Self" that is to find your true identity.
You are That--the illusion is that you are an individual--part of that is the belief that things happen to you.

The ego is identification with the story of me. Its all self referencing--about me.
Enlightenment is transcending the ego.

Those that have had NDE say that the other side is more real than here.
The enlightened say that they see the world now as in Techni colour, alive-- not the dull colours of before.

Death is just a transition.

Chris

[lake]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G79EHVjLgwU

Oh, to "Awaken" Spiritually (IMHO) is to realise the falseness of the Separate Self ... it's like the facade of the Ego can no longer be maintained and in releasing the idea that it's "in control" so-to-speak, a whole new perspective is seen !

Chuang Tzu : “I dreamt I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky; then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am a man ?”

Well a problem. My considerations turn to the separate self? And what is this? Yes I have read the same as most. I have funded a full account for the single eye. But still a yearning lingers!
Lets take the Livery Companies of the City of London and in particular the Armourers and Brasiers' Company since 1322.
Who is that you may state?
Well they are still the armourers and controllers, through sight consented vow, of all military forces.

And their motto, from remembered image so may not be exact, is:

"Be Certain That All Know, That We Are ONE"

What in my limited way I am trying to convey is that we here are so very far from the source of our being, as to be indistinguishable from single seconds?
And I mean SECONDS .... not first
But its only a thought

[Clear Light]

Ah, by way of a story courtesy of Anthony de Mello ...

Nasruddin Is Dead

Nasruddin was in a philosophical frame of mind: "Life and
death - who can say what they are ?". Now his wife, who was busy
in the kitchen, overheard him and said "You men are all alike -
quite unpractical. Anyone can tell that when a man's
extremities are rigid and cold, he is dead".

Nasruddin was impressed by his wife's practical wisdom. Once
when he was out in the winter snow, he felt his hands and feet
go numb. "I must be dead" he thought. Then came a further
thought: "What am I doing walking around if I am dead ? I
should be lying down like a normal corpse". Which is just what
he did.

An hour later, a group of travellers, finding him by the roadside,
began to argue whether he was alive or dead. Nasruddin
yearned to cry out, "You fools, can't you see my extremities are
cold and rigid ?". But he knew better than to say that,
for corpses do not talk.

The travellers finally concluded he was dead, and hoisted the
corpse onto their shoulders with a view to carrying it to the
cemetery for burial. They hadn't gone far when they came to a
forking of the ways. A fresh dispute arose among them as to
which road led to the cemetery. Nasruddin put up with this for
as long as he could. Then he sat up and said "Excuse me,
gentlemen, but the road that leads to the cemetery is the one to
your left. I know that corpses do not speak, but I have broken
the rule this once and I assure you it will not happen again".

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When reality clashes with a rigidly held belief, reality is
generally the loser.

[Bubu]

Death of the physical is projected in movies and mainstream as something dreadful. Fear of death is one that makes us walk directly into the trap of those who want to control us. Ego is the other.