Part/post 2 of 2, New kind of schooling system: my question

[Sunny-side-up]

In post one
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87458-New-kind-of-schooling-system-my-question&p=1028657#post1028657
I asked the forum these questions:


Would you attend and or agree to a new kind of schooling system that taught (Taught not Dictated) totally new:

Languages, Sciences (all), Technologies (all), Ways of Living/Concepts, Etc, Etc

and or add to our present system/s of schooling/teaching.

So would you sign up and attend or at least would you agree and think such new schools were beneficial, and so should be allowed!


Seven forum members replayed and answered with an overall positive YES!

Atlas, waves, Ahnung-quay, 6pounder, waves , Tyy1907 , betoobig , Violet

Your answers where all very well thought through and it dose show there is much need for change in both education that we are given (Much is hidden and or not true ) and much technology that we are allowed to use (Much is hidden) We are very restricted in our growth on this planet by the PTW.

I was going to try to PM all currently active members my questions today but I think the Positive YES answers from you seven is enough for me to make my next point, a follow up part 2 post! this post

Now this is in no way a trick question but I did have an ulterior motive that no one picked up on.

Clues in my questions were the words:
Totally new.
followed by the examples (Languages, Sciences (all), Technologies (all), Ways of Living/Concepts) I did also add the (and or add to our present system/s of schooling/teaching)

The words 'Totally-New' could only come from outside of our present societies, out side of our planet in-fact!
For 'totally new' to be an option (Not that which is hidden from us here and now by the controllers/profiteers) it would have to come from elsewhere, from outside of our planet.


I am very interested in this much stated comment 'Not to allow Alien influence in our spec species/cultures, in our development of self and our knowledge'

But many, many of us here in Avalon already believe in some way or percent that we are not a natural species and that we have already been tampered with and maybe even created by another species and or group of species.

Personally I don't see any problem if we had, in open communication, other multiple species here now, I think they would be called ET's :)

So now add this to my questions (there totally the same questions but with a different perspective added)

Would you attend and or agree to a new kind of ET schooling system that taught (Taught not Dictated) totally new:

Languages, Sciences (all), Technologies (all), Ways of Living/Concepts, Etc, Etc

and or added ET wisdoms to our present system/s of schooling/teaching

In my view I think the answers should all be a 'Positive YES' again?

If we are awake to the world and the universe, evolved enough to reason and even believe that there are other beings out there, then why not communicate. By communicating it would also mean interacting, interacting would mean taking and giving information.
Learning from each other in an open and direct ways!
Interacting in OUR Schooling in our societies,
Interacting in THEIR Schooling in our societies

Interacting by haveing THEM HERE in orbit around on our planet, THEM HERE down on planet!

But all open and above board and not in a dictated way!

So again what is your answer to these questions now?



Would you attend and or agree to a new kind of ET schooling system that taught (Taught not Dictated) totally new:

Languages, Sciences (all), Technologies (all), Ways of Living/Concepts, Etc, Etc

and or added ET wisdom to our present system/s of schooling/teaching


Hope the original 7 answer (And any other member of course) the questions again giving any feed back if they answer NO this time!

Just adding:
'Original 7' Hmm?
Synchronicity going on there!
Yesterday post:
Project Avalon: Blake's 7 (TV series)

[betoobig]

I believe we allready did so, long ago before we where taken... We were free and had cósmico awareness. So yes, but all that has come along with the development of our real spiritual nature... Thus focusing in our "powers" ... Telepathy, telekinesia, etc... In that manner we wont be surpass by technology or directed towards transhumanism.
Much love

[Ahnung-quay]

Not only that we wouldn't be slaves to technology and tpw plans for us but, that we could become warriors in the fight against them. The worship of Satan has cost humanity a lot. Education is our only option.
If things such as telekinesis, dream work, OBE control, extra - dimensional access are part of the curriculum, I'm in.

[Tyy1907]

I've heard contactees speak of being shown "schools" in other civilizations where the children's hearts interests, strengths, free will is honored and nurtured upon. Theyre taught at their own pace and taught individualuzed stuff. The COMMUNITY raises the child also since the communities are basically large families. Of course a much bigger understanding of the child's DNA, soul history etc would be known as well.

[Violet]

Oh, okey, I thought you were talking about this planet.

My response in the other thread had that (limited) scope.

Now, if your suggestion is to take it wider, I understand that to, at some point, become an interaction. I don't expect, at that level, to get with nothing to return, but that's my opinion.

So, that's why I'm just going to stick with this planet only, for a little longer. First we create order in this system and then we can think of presenting ourselves in interaction, if we want to be taken seriously anyway.

[6pounder]

OK I have few aspects on this.
I believe we can improve our education system by ourselves. Learning from ET's would not be a replacement to a system we can invent by ourselves but an addition to our own education system.
It doesn't matter who designed the system as long as it puts us into progress. I believe we can design our own, I wont mind getting help from ET's to design it. But taking a completely new education system already designed by other race and accepting it without judging it is almost like today's education system. We know the flaws in ours so it will be an improvement but a total new system from anyone with no history... Well if it will answer the questions we seek then absolutely yes but I believe we can do it on our own (in time)

[Sunny-side-up]

Great answers again all.

Violet that is my point here, I think we are already in contact, we are already influenced by ET's

The problem being, it is not out in the open for the masses to see.
The problem being that we are and have been influenced by very-negative-ET's and or ED's.

Because we are influenced by both positive and negative ET's we need show directly that we, those open minded enough, Loving souls do need and desire positive ET's here and now and in our future.

The negative ET influence is more than just influence, it's direct interference! and at a level that makes the sheeple follow the same disastrous mistakes, time and time again, mainly wars and hate division!

One example of a possible Negative ET interaction and a need for Positive interaction:
Just adding this, because it has come relevant to me in Avalon posts again:
'The-White-Light-Trap' Now if that is true how big a negative influence/interference is that, we can maybe learn while awake to not fall for that trap but! Positive ET influence, interaction could stop such a trap much sooner than we could!
The above is also an example of possible ET knowledge/technology in use here and now!

BTW for all who haven't followed the 'White-Light-Trap' scenario:
If such a trap exists it is there to divert us and than erase our AWAKENED self and knowledge, then let us re-incarnate but a SHEEPLE level of understanding.
If we where all awake here and now, there would be no negative influences from ourselves or ET's. We would truly be worthy of contact outside of our Prison!

I own up to not wanting the Negative influence here, I wan't out of that so I/we can move on into a relationship with Positive ET's
It might take Positive interaction on an open to all level for us to be able to push away the Negative-ET's We can really clean our act up then!

As long as we let the 'We are negative and not worthy' beliefs own us we will never see and realize 'We are already worthy' It is only material-Earthly negative beliefs that enslave us and keep us held prisoner and separate from others!

[Sunny-side-up]

OK I have few aspects on this.
I believe we can improve our education system by ourselves. Learning from ET's would not be a replacement to a system we can invent by ourselves but an addition to our own education system.
It doesn't matter who designed the system as long as it puts us into progress. I believe we can design our own, I wont mind getting help from ET's to design it. But taking a completely new education system already designed by other race and accepting it without judging it is almost like today's education system. We know the flaws in ours so it will be an improvement but a total new system from anyone with no history... Well if it will answer the questions we seek then absolutely yes but I believe we can do it on our own (in time)

thanks 6pounder and yes I'm sure we can.
Just saying that the wording in my title IE 'Totally-New-System) did not mean scrap our existing system or technology, but allow others input in to our world. I did also say Not-Dictated' so we could on an open level vet, chose what is of use to us at our level, which I'm sure any positive ET would be aware of in regards to helping us and themselves.

[6pounder]

Many explain that the reason a positive ET race to not take action more the balancing the playing field is due to our nature to except what is being done to us. There will be no awakening or at least real one if a benelovent race will tell us how. Humanity always seek help from outer source when the help can come from within ourselves. Why don't we just act? Well I can go against the rules by force but its a negative way. I can try to awake more and more people but I will be silenced. When I will achieve awakening the powers will take action by force to eliminate me... Time will tell if humanity can rise above the negative influence and say no. I said no long time ago but outside of Avalon it seems that people are afraid, afraid of the sacrifice. The sacrifice of their comfort life and social acceptance to be thrown away for a cause greater then themselves. Take actions, don't vote, do not accept vaccination by force, do not consume, don't watch TV, grow your own food and so on. Give people example that it's possible to live better life with out borders and rules that benefit only the strong. Show them their suffering and if they will have enough courage to open their eyes and look, and if they will have enough courage to open their mouthes and speak there will be change.

[Hym]

We live in the questions you pose, Sunny-side-up, along with the answers.

Blessings! I can't help but notice that this forum is, by it's very humanly evolved spiritual nature, the very education you present. It exposes to us the reasoning behind the tacit human understanding of Non-Interference. You, We, They are getting the reason for other species standing down, yet still looking. i understand the view but I also see it's un-evolved blindness.

I, like many others, have at times of great intensity, told those who have the where-with-all to intervene and make a difference, of the hypocrisy of their non-interference, considering how locked down the place is by other very negative forces. I see their perspective is sometimes as cold as those who manipulate humanity.

That's the problem with advanced beings sometimes. You have to yell at them to get them, those we deem so advanced, to wake up to the need. You understand the common term that says silence in the face of tyranny is a conscious support for the tyranny itself. This applies here.

They are not us. We are much more powerful than they are in a very crucial and spirit affirming way. I consider some of them distant parents whose connection is, in the present analysis, a mere donation of sperm. It's not like a parent who cares for us like we care for our children. Sometimes our projection of our humanity to those with what seems to be a higher capacity for awareness is lost to their advanced deafness.

Does anyone see the love of an animal as a love less than ours, yet we aren't anywhere near as non-judgemental as they are and consider ourselves more conscious. Conscious to what? Aware of what? Human in just what way? Call me a dog and I will be good with that. Sometimes these creatures are the best of what we claim to be.

WE are interdimensional by the mere activity of our conscious journeys. Experiencing definitive boundaries of awareness perceptions, and traversing the dimensions (as human culture defines these levels) will occur when we unlearn those things that we have been habituated into focusing our attention on.

The journey to other lands where the educational systems are more heart centered will occur when they learn from us. This is not conjecture. Ask them. I'm not guaranteeing any profound insights or truths from them, but you'll know if you make the connection happen.

So, consider that advanced beings are in need of teaching also. Their worlds have more, and considerably less, opportunities for learning than ours. Here will become the ideal There when we value ourselves as completely transcendent within our own unlimited capacities.

It is not lost on me that the heart in it's verdant healing capacity is known to a few experienced travelers as the gateway to the Infinite. Those things we don't understand from a 3-D world are just the same things that those technologically advanced beings don't understand about our capacity and great strength of Heartfullness.....

[Michi]

I also believe there was some ET interference since only since the last century man evolved technologically in a logarithmic pace.
In terms of ET schooling, Harry Potter comes to my mind. :bigsmile:

Sunny-side-up has a point there. There are good and bad ETs around - so how would one discern between them.
Same thing on earth. There may be good products produced by vested interests to further their dark agenda.

Thus, key would be a schooling to enable one to not only to discern between sincere good beings but also to learn how to get amongst those, who are the good guys. (Which by the way, politics is the opposite way.):facepalm:

[Sunny-side-up]

Thanks all :thumbsup:


This was one of the answers I was hoping would come to light from my OP

Hey it's me
Default Re: Part/post 2 of 2, New kind of schooling system: my question
We live in the questions you pose, Sunny-side-up, along with the answers.

Blessings! I can't help but notice that this forum is, by it's very humanly evolved spiritual nature, the very education you present. It exposes to us the reasoning behind the tacit human understanding of Non-Interference. You, We, They are getting the reason for other species standing down, yet still looking. i understand the view but I also see it's un-evolved blindness.

We are self schooling here, together, sharing wisdom's.
Avalon has incredible class mates and teachers all :)

[Hym]

Within this discussion is the value of homeschooling. It is one of the New Kinds that I took my son thru for 10 years, out of necessity. The systems in the states and in the remoteness of the area dictated the directions that I chose, as a parent loving and responsible for my brilliant, previously dyslexic child. We missed out on many things and there were some things i would definitely change given children to raise now, but we adapted with what we had and who we were. I could only see homeschooling mixed with a wide variety of social interactions as any path I would choose to this day.

The efforts and open curriculum gave him insights and experiences most often totally absent in any organized schooling system. He sees and knows things that many will never know.

Thru his studies, unlimited by time and the sparse structures of classes and the pursuit of degrees, (even while auditing classes when i went back to college), he produced series on the deceptions in the entertainment industry, the energetic manipulation of the young via sex in the media, and the relation of crisis actors to social manipulations.

How many 12 year olds do you know who studied PTSD, D.I.D.-DissociativeIdentityDisorder, M.P.D.-MultiplePersonalityDisorder in order to understand those things they saw in one their parents? How many 16 year olds choose to go to AdultChildren of Alcoholics in order to better understand the process that took the life of a parent and then developed a comprehensive, progressive and realistic, holistic approach to healing the alcoholic? His freedom gave him those things that are founded in self-discipline and self-acceptance, even thru all of the anger and confusion that blocked his way.

The coolest thing is that he has moved on from his need to discern the truths and the desire to share those things with the uninformed. (I often feel like I'm with an old, wise traveler who gets tired of my sharing insights with those he instantly perceives as not worth the effort, and that's why i call him Dad sometimes....)

For him, I like the transcendence I see. He says that there is more than enough out there to be found regarding those things he investigated, and he says some are more researched than his own studies. He has removed many of those things he made and now spends time with friends who know what he knows and see the importance of living the experiences with a powerful, loving presence. His groups have moved on from the excess need to share the gory details and now apply beauty to the living here. They have not abandoned those things learned. They value focus on the positive, engaged and accepting aspects of life much more than those things more and more of us as older parents lived thru. I agree. Thanks, Dad. Let's go do some thing good, even if it is hard and challenging.

Maybe the sacrifice on my part was tough, if i looked at all the opportunities i couldn't even think of, but the rewards are those no school could ever have given him.

Schooling is directly related to the depth of truth the society pretends to offer. Pretense is a piss poor way of leaving your children's future at risk. Way too many agendas, even at independent schools, schools we tried out in the beginning.

In case you don't see it yet, there are several studies being done right now on the rare few forums like this, studies beyond the monitoring and occasional troll activities you'd expect agencies to spend time and money on, even the mimicry of some a.i. systems I have detected....The studies of the individuals we are, coupled and then grouped are the ones that I'm talking about, the ones that make a difference.

I completely agree with your insights, Sunny-side-up. We are "Self-schooling, incredible class mates and teachers all."

[Sunny-side-up]

The main thing is not to be taught but to openly learn and follow what delights you!

I would be delighted to be part of an open ET class here on Earth (Maybe in orbit, what a classroom that would be ha),
no teacher as it where, just learning together!

[Constance]

Yes - I am all for being "all-inclusive" and I would call those teachings Universal teachings....we are all self-taught in things that we are passionate about so let us take it to a whole new level for those who are keen! :thumbsup: