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[norman]

What is the future of work as all predictions indicate that even the professions will be replaced by technology in a decade or two?

This link takes you to an audio-only discussion at the Sage Theater in Gateshead, north east England.

The discussion is quite intelligent ( within a mainstream framework ) and well worth a listen, it's bound to make you think:

https://app.box.com/s/0vi008i5l0n5cuv2opvmqwnga7ew51jg

[Sunny-side-up]

Well maybe when we have the hidden tech at our disposal, we might get out there, off planet and have much in a positive way to do :)

When I say out there I don't mean way, way out-there as in 'Star-trek' out-there, but closer to home, the Asteroid belt etc, that will open up work enough :)

[Bubu]

What is the future of work as all predictions indicate that even the professions will be replaced by technology in a decade or two?

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With no work to do I can only see one logical thing to do ; have fun:dancing:

[ghostrider]

I think humanity will under go its greatest transformation , when people work for the good of all people as a whole and no longer chase the green paper with presidents faces on it ... there is a better way ... for example th way our Plejaren friends do -everyone works two hours a day for the community then a card is punched and it allows them to purchase everything they need ... everyone contributes ...

[ghostrider]

The X factor is, one everything goes robotic or AI based or driven , there comes a point where AI gains its independence and the military/PTB will lose control of them and the entire system ... yes I predict a war between humans and AI based androids/operating systems... after our two civil wars , and the country is divided into five sectors , then will be the android/drone apocalypse...

[Atlas]

-everyone works two hours a day for the community then a card is punched and it allows them to purchase everything they need ... everyone contributes ...
Yeah, just like insects do:

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[Atlas]

[...] everything goes robotic or AI based or driven , ...
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[Atlas]

[...] the android/drone apocalypse...
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[Phoenix1304]

Hi Atlas

This is a discussion that seems to be raging at the moment, being raised in a spate of recent movies and TV shows as well. For Avalonians interested may I suggest, if not already seen, the movie ‘Ex_Machina' and also a British TV series called ‘Humans’, both of which pretty much explore the idea with the emphasis on the ‘threat’, for without conflict, there is no drama.

Of course Jacques Fresco of The Venus Project has already posited a fabulous future where machines do all the dirty work and leave humans free to educate themselves and follow their creative urges with abandon. He points out that most crime and misdeeds are born from the lust for money and when everyone’s needs are met in a resource-based economic system where everything belongs to everyone, the accepted norms of a corrupt and dysfunctional society would simply fade away.

The prevailing resistance and objection to his vision is the fear of the tech and the rather small-minded human idea of the ‘right to work’, that I always found quite baffling. Watching miners with banners demanding their ‘right to work’ in a dangerous environment that was poisoning them never made much sense to me. We are so deeply programmed that ‘work’ is seen as something dignified and essential to a successful life. It’s not the work folks, it’s the money. Let’s face it.

It’s the last thing on a child’s mind and the need to earn a living to buy a small space in which to live, is enough to drive so many youngsters to drink and drugs when they realise the status quo requires them to be slaves. Likewise the youngsters in ‘Humans’ find themselves feeling desperate about their futures as the ‘synths’ as the bots are called, are making so many humans redundant. Interesting to hear that Japan has already introduced the carer bots as this is a creepy theme in the series.

Sadly, given our economic system, humans remain unbudgingly greedy. When I began my working life, in a University, using my shorthand skills to take the notes, I could produce a set of minutes in a couple of days, depending on the bosses revisions, I was working on a manual, clackety-clack typewriter, scrubbing out mistakes with a pencil rubber on six carbon copies. I saw the advent of the electric golfball typewriter and thought I’d died and gone to heaven, then photocopiers and computers came and very soon the executive secretary was redundant as bosses could now dictate to the machine and have his spelling corrected in the process. Producing a set of minutes is now done in minutes and sent all over the world in seconds.

In those days we worked 9-5 (remember that?) we broke at 11 in the morning and all went to the ‘staff room’ for tea and biscuits. The same at 3 in the afternoon. Making the total hours of the actual working day around 6 hours. Stress was virtually unheard of and they seem like halcyon days now that workers ‘committed’ to their jobs are expected to put in 60-70 hours a week. My point is that while workers productivity was amplified a thousandfold by the machines, the working week, instead of getting shorter, got longer. So unfettered greed is our problem imo, not the machines.

The massive cost reductions brought by machines should be benefitting everyone, but they don’t as yet. That is why I agree with the speaker in this audio that said moving forward to our inevitable AI assisted future we need a completely new fundamental system. Perhaps along the lines of the Pleiadean one Ghostrider already mentioned or dear old Jacques Fresco’s inspired and long ignored vision.

How to make that happen is the challenge we face.

[Bubu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0xqnl8SSnU

[ghostrider]

Humanity marches right down the path Enoch wrote about like a blueprint ... the battle between man and technology is coming ...

[apokalypse]

I think humanity will under go its greatest transformation , when people work for the good of all people as a whole and no longer chase the green paper with presidents faces on it ... there is a better way ... for example th way our Plejaren friends do -everyone works two hours a day for the community then a card is punched and it allows them to purchase everything they need ... everyone contributes ...

yes, i have tried to say these stuff for a year now on mainstream forums but they still stick their heads on the sand and i gave up. it became discussion on the system(socialism vs capitalism vs ISM)

[ghostrider]

Right , they cant let go of ego , some have to be right all the time ...