Star Trek Beyond - Trailer (2016)

[Gaia]

Brought to you by the Director of Fast & Furious with the Beastie Boys music :)

Gene Roddenberry: "Star Trek was an attempt to say that humanity will reach maturity and wisdom..."


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[Sunny-side-up]

She a friend of Tonto?

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[Carmody]

Well, we can think of it as a dumbing down of Star Trek.... or an attempt to raise up the "X-box GTA Beastie Boys Fast and furious" crowd.

[Gaia]

Well, we can think of it as a dumbing down of Star Trek.... or an attempt to raise up the "X-box GTA Beastie Boys Fast and furious" crowd.

Getting destroyed, again, apparently...

[KiwiElf]

Do they have to virtually destroy the ENTERPRISE in every [reboot] movie???? :facepalm:

[Gaia]

Do they have to virtually destroy the ENTERPRISE in every [reboot] movie???? :facepalm:

Star Trek played a unique role in SF that has not been replaced by other narratives, much less augmented by reboots of other franchises that change them in the Star Trek direction. Perhaps more importantly, these changes are not just isolated events they are part of a sea-change that has occurred in a vast amount of mainstream film since the 70s, with very little counter-current in the other direction.

Star Trek was optimistic science-utopianism, interested in exploration, mutual understanding, multicultural respect and non-interference, camaraderie, cool ideas and philosophy, and a variety of other progressive ideals as embodied in the first show and its sequel. Like so many other SF narratives (including Star Wars, in its way), what began as a flawed but genuinely progressive world has been step-by-step corrupted, rebooted, and sequelled into a fundamentally conservative mold, where violence solves most problems, characters are simplistic and relatively unchanging, science is merely a guise for plot, and the main argument in favor generally takes the apolitical form of "sit back, turn off your brain, and enjoy it.

Again this isn't something unique to Star Trek, but in what has happened to Star Trek the general cultural shift to the right in the US and its premiere art-form is acutely evident. I feel some affection for Kirk, Roddenberry, and the rest, but what's really lamentable here is how yet another icon of my youth not just a piece of nostalgia, but a moral anchor, like Sesame Street has been not just corrupted, but corrupted in such a way that most people don't even notice or mind the damage that is being done and the broader cultural effects these bastardizations continue to have. Maybe we will probably see an Enterprise vs Star Destroyer movie in our lifetimes.

I am a little more interested in the Independence Day: Resurgence trailer.A_a1RPLpEIw

[Mutchie]

I love the Star Trek movies myself ..... im looking forward to seeing Star Wars 7 im a sci fi nerd

I WISH I COULD WATCH THIS MOVIE NOW LOL :facepalm:

[Gaia]

I love the Star Trek movies myself ..... im looking forward to seeing Star Wars 7 im a sci fi nerd

I WISH I COULD WATCH THIS MOVIE NOW LOL :facepalm:

Only next July my friend :facepalm:

[Carmody]

Anything that remains around for a long time..... ends up becoming dogmatized and dumbed down.

Taken over by the infiltration of parasites, wannabe intellectualism, and ritualization. In no particular order or intention.

The 'need to feed' of a parasite class of humanity... ensures that ..over time.. in any given system that is found to be effective in the given situation...that they infiltrate the given system and clandestinely leverage the 'need to belong' aspect of humanity's overall animal/mammal avatar, and subvert that instinctual overtone in the psychology of the human condition.

It happens to politics, corporations, governments, religions, Unions, movements..hell.. cooking and morning shows, television, newspapers, academia, science..and... film studios and their 'products' (franchises).

The longer a given thing has been around.... the more likely it is to be corrupted and degraded.

[Gaia]

The 'need to feed' of a parasite class of humanity... ensures that ..over time.. in any given system that is found to be effective in the given situation...that they infiltrate the given system and clandestinely leverage the 'need to belong' aspect of humanity's overall animal/mammal avatar, and subvert that instinctual overtone in the psychology of the human condition.


There was a time Carmody when the entertainment industry promoted an anti-establishment counter culture, consciously creating a space for nonconformity. Movies and music were means of escaping the dictates of the status quo. Now they are part and parcel of the establishment and leave no outlet for true creativity or independent thought. Movies have become a happy arm of the United States governement as they advocate for violence and war crimes to be carried out around the world.