A meeting last night with Brian O'Leary

[Bill Ryan]

http://projectavalon.net/Brian_O_Leary_best_photo_by_Jeff_vsm.jpg


Hello, All — I do think this qualifies as a "remarkable personal experience" (the name of the section I've posted this in). :)

Last night I had a most unusual dream, and I got up immediately (at 4 am) to write it all down.

In the dream, I was having dinner with a couple of people (who I seemed to know a little in my dream, but do not know in reality). Then Brian O'Leary came in to say Hi. As many of you know, I counted him as a good personal friend. But this was the first time I'd ever dreamed about him.

I was delighted to see him, of course. I knew full well, in my dream, that he was dead (he passed over in 2011), but was somehow reappearing as 100% solid and human. As he gave me a very warm hug, I elbowed the woman next to me, kind of poking her to pay attention, because after Brian left I'd tell her that this friend of mine was actually dead. So I wanted her to notice what was happening.

Brian was friendly and cheerful, and appeared absolutely as he was when I knew him. I somehow knew I needed to choose my words carefully. I asked him (quote), "How are things in the realms where you are now?"

Brian replied (quote, his exact words), "It's been an abominable experience. I wouldn't recommend it." He was smiling, but it wasn't at ALL what I was expecting him to say.

I asked him if he'd seen his wife and children. (I didn't mention Meredith, his wife, by name.) He told me he'd be seeing them next.

I was hugging him all this time. Then in the dream, I began to tear up a little, now feeling very emotional. He said he had to go.

Then, immediately, I woke up.

:star:

[Cidersomerset]

very intrigue Bill thanks for sharing......


"It's been an abominable experience. I wouldn't recommend it." He was smiling,

Strange answer , without more details leaves you wanting more,
I wonder if he will come back again ?

Still that's what we are here for trying to understand the unknown
and why we chose to be on the 3rd rock from the sun at this time......

[seah]

Reminds me of a visit to some astral realm. His reply is noteworthy of what we all can expect.

[Innocent Warrior]

Beautiful! :sun:

My best friend did the same, paid me a visit, and I did the same, I just hugged him the whole time but you did better than me, I sobbed and complained to him about how hard it is here without him. :blushing:

[Gaia]

Mystics claim that the world of our dreams can be a connection to other worlds, inaccessible to our waking consciousness.... these dream can symbolize your need to change and expand your horizons, new chapter in your life Bill:sun:

[Wide-Eyed]

I take it when Brian said it was abominable experience he was being sarcastic or ironic?

[Bill Ryan]

I take it when Brian said it was abominable experience he was being sarcastic or ironic?

No, he was serious. I was very surprised (in the dream) when he said that.

[bearcow]

Just a word of caution, even some benevolent beings masquerade as lifelong friends/family in the astral realm to sway influence over people.

[Feritciva]

Many possibilities here;

1) This was a "impostor" astral being, messing with you - probably knowing that this would be a message to reach a lot of seekers through Bill.

2) This was Bill's unconscioussness - after dealing with underground/conspiracy stuff for years, this is some what normal! :)

3) This was a real message from Brian O'Leary - in spirit/astral or whatever form he's in now.

4) This was really Brian - a playful side of him - joking around! :)

5) This was an entirely random dream originated from coincidental brain cell interactions. (Ok people, we also have to think about materalistic/pseudo-sceptic ones. They are human too!)

[Wide-Eyed]

Whoa! That is not what I would have thought from Brian, makes one wonder why someone like him would be subjected to that while having gone on to another realm or density. It certainly does not square with Bob Monroe and what he writes in any of his works such as Journey's Out of Body or Ultimate Journey. Interesting thread and post as I brought home Uncle"s remains yesterday and I am considering when and what our next meeting will be like...

[betoobig]

First, thanks for sharing Bill. I take this as a "dont go to the light when passing" advice. We have to go to our central sun, Alcione. Your oversoul knows the way.
Much love

[Sunny-side-up]

Hmm Bill deep post!


I asked him if he'd seen his wife and children. (I didn't mention Meredith, his wife, by name.) He told me he'd be seeing them next.

I get from your quote above that your friend was going through a sequence, when you asked him, it wasn't a good part but was moving on to a much better event in the sequence, the meeting up with his wife again :)

[Jhonie]

Each person has their own personal experience. Not everyone will experience the same thing.

[moekatz]

I imagine that the afterlife is like a series of holding pens...we experience each pen with anticipation that the pen we are in is the final one. Not so. Who knows if the personality/ego takes a longer time for some of us than others, to peel away. Maybe some of us need a long sleep in a nice cozy pen first, then, upon awakening, realize the next pen awaits and we trundle on to the next with anticipation that pure peace will be found...like a curious child. I just got my mother's message from the other side this year and its been 11 years since her death. She was in tears, apologizing to me and telling me things from her deepest self. She didn't come alone, but had helpers around her which included a dear aunt of mine. It felt like she didn't have the strength to come alone to me. It felt like she was still working on many issues and was trying to resolve this one with me. So I say, don't be quick to take the words as an indication of their state of being on the other side, rather, what was the feeling you got when the words were spoken. What impression were you left with? Thanks to Bill for his sharing and concern.

[Mutchie]

It is a strange sensation when you have a vivid dream and it almost feels REAL ... The concept of crossing over ... As much as i would like to believe in an afterlife it gives me pause .. We are ALL heading in the same direction NO ONE HERE GETS OUT ALIVE !!!!

Ps - Bill maybe the afterlife is not what we think .. Peggy Kane was convinced she was talking to people in the Astral world she said it was ran by Reptilians and according to her there was all manner of devious crimes happening in that place " it was just WRONG" of course most people wouldnt believe it .... im not sure what to believe i dont think any of us are .

Thanks for posting Bill ;)

[WhiteLove]

I do think they are right when they say that at the moment of death all that has added density will within the light of unconditional live be released by the witness that empties itself through a replay. I think this is required so that unconditional love can based on previous lives and this one, decide what density it should enter next in order to be able to make the greatest possible density release in the next life.

[21g]

In your shoes, Bill, i can imagine the " Abominable " bit could be quite disconcerting.

It jarred me when reading it. So had a quick skance at the origin of the word.

Apparently,the word was once believed to mean : AWAY FROM ( ab ) + HUMAN BEING ( homine )

It evolved through Olde English, French and Latin, apparently.

[astridmari]

I think he wants to wake you up, turn your thoughts upside down. When I wellknown person acts out of order he is sending a message to you, only you will understand.
IMO.

Perhaps it is koan of sorts och perhaps the dream you remember is a cover for something else, and the remnant feeling you had was what the deeper dream was about. Meeting and old friend.

[Meggings]

I take it when Brian said it was abominable experience he was being sarcastic or ironic?

No, he was serious. I was very surprised (in the dream) when he said that.

I'd like to add as possible explanation, that dreams can be inserted, that sentences such as it being "abominable" can be inserted. I have been in a dream that my conscious personality felt uncomfortable with, and I with awareness said to the dream, "You are not real," and it went POOF and disappeared.

Over the years I have at times consciously moved between 3D and 4D with no break between them. 4D is vast; it holds everything. It is where aspects of personalities get trapped, and I have seen a few. It helps to understand that there are levels within every dimension, just as dimensions themselves are vibratory levels. In my experience, at roughly the half-way mark, you would be above much of the darkness. There is darkness there, for I have seen murder done, and I in my 3D personality-self was amazed to have seen it.

In years of travelling while awake and conscious, I never seemed to enter 4D. It was only when my soul partner died that I began going there and meeting him, having conversations with groups there. And that's where I have gone to discuss other lifetime connections in this one, where there assembled about five people I know/knew in this 3D life around a table. A guide showed us pictures on a kind of "light table" of a particular past life, and traced the connections between us there that had influence on us here and now.

So 4D is a place we all go, but being so vast, we will all have different experiences.

My main purpose for writing this post is to remind us all that we indeed are sovereign beings - once we remember that, we can challenge anything that appears before us. When we speak with the authority of our true self, then we will be obeyed. Generally I use words that have deep meaning for me, such as once when I said, for example, when attempts were being made to attack me, "In the name of the Christ, release me!" and I was instantly released. I have also in travels used the phrase, "In the name of the Almighty..."

We have been deliberately made to not remember our own authority. If ever you have a 4D dreamscape such as Bill had, if ever something seems not quite right, remember to challenge its truth using whatever words have power to you.

Words can be inserted into our minds. Dreams can be. Who was it said constant vigilance is the price of freedom? Jefferson?

[Hym]

What do you think it means, Bill?

It's pretty personal to ask anyone to tell us the layers of emotions that such a dream means, but in Bill's case and in this beautiful sharing space, he posted it because many of us feel like family here. In some cases here, it is the promise of the family that should be. Thank You Bill for sharing !

Besides feeling deeply sad, I can see an evolution of understandings and feelings about just what this dream meant.

Either way, because Brian shared so much of his difficult journeys, journeys that were guided by his deep drive to help humanity, I see this insight that Bill had as one that tells us to keep on working, keep on growing, never stop giving to ourselves, each other and those we don't yet know.

[Flash]

Bill: Brian was friendly and cheerful, and appeared absolutely as he was when I knew him. I somehow knew I needed to choose my words carefully. I asked him (quote), "How are things in the realms where you are now?"

Brian replied (quote, his exact words), "It's been an abominable experience. I wouldn't recommend it." He was smiling, but it wasn't at ALL what I was expecting him to say.

I asked him if he'd seen his wife and children. (I didn't mention Meredith, his wife, by name.) He told me he'd be seeing them next.


Are his wife Meredith and children pass away? if not, it may be a message or warning.

You know, Brian must have been holding a lot of information he could not talk about but that keeping it in had an impact on him and on others. It might have to be processed when on the other side, the effect it had on him and on others. Apart from what we do not know he may have done.

This is one possible answer.

The other one may be that you are plainly talking to yourself Bill. We see what we are, otherwise it is unnoticed by us, like the indians not seeing the Europeans boats on the water. You may have had it tougher lately than what you see on the surface - smiling, almost out of it, but not wishing it to anybody.

[ghostrider]

They say we live 80-100 years in a material body, the 152 years in the beyond as a spirit learning just as we did when we were in a physical body... We are no smarter in the beyond , we still have alot to endure and learn ... Every so often we step up a little , depending upon how we apply ourselves, yes even in the beyond...

[Jhonie]

Bill do you do any lucid dreaming?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf0g1YZa8co

[happyuk]

I think it's worth selectively quoting from Swami Sri Yukteswar's descriptions of the Astral world here...

"The astral universe, made of various subtle vibrations of light and color, is hundreds of times larger than the material cosmos. The entire physical creation hangs like a little solid basket under the huge luminous balloon of the astral sphere. Just as many physical suns and stars roam in space, so there are also countless astral solar and stellar systems. Their planets have astral suns and moons, more beautiful than the physical ones. The astral luminaries resemble the aurora borealis-the sunny astral aurora being more dazzling than the mild-rayed moon-aurora. The astral day and night are longer than those of earth. "

"The astral world is infinitely beautiful, clean, pure, and orderly. There are no dead planets or barren lands. The terrestrial blemishes-weeds, bacteria, insects, snakes-are absent. Unlike the variable climates and seasons of the earth, the astral planets maintain the even temperature of an eternal spring, with occasional luminous white snow and rain of many-colored lights. Astral planets abound in opal lakes and bright seas and rainbow rivers. "

"Among the fallen dark angels expelled from other worlds, friction and war take place with lifetronic bombs or mental mantric vibratory rays. These beings dwell in the gloom-drenched regions of the lower astral cosmos, working out their evil karma. "

""In the vast realms above the dark astral prison, all is shining and beautiful. The astral cosmos is more naturally attuned than the earth to the divine will and plan of perfection. Every astral object is manifested primarily by the will of God, and partially by the will-call of astral beings. "
"The earth is dark with warfare and murder in the sea, land, and air,... but the astral realms know a happy harmony and equality. Astral beings dematerialize or materialize their forms at will."

"No one is born of woman; offspring are materialized by astral beings through the help of their cosmic will into specially patterned, astrally condensed forms. The recently physically disembodied being arrives in an astral family through invitation, drawn by similar mental and spiritual tendencies."

"The astral body is not subject to cold or heat or other natural conditions. The anatomy includes an astral brain, or the thousand-petaled lotus of light, and six awakened centers in the sushumna, or astral cerebro-spinal axis. The heart draws cosmic energy as well as light from the astral brain, and pumps it to the astral nerves and body cells, or lifetrons. Astral beings can affect their bodies by lifetronic force or by mantric vibrations. "

[Kryztian]

Bill: Brian was friendly and cheerful, and appeared absolutely as he was when I knew him. I somehow knew I needed to choose my words carefully. I asked him (quote), "How are things in the realms where you are now?"

Brian replied (quote, his exact words), "It's been an abominable experience. I wouldn't recommend it." He was smiling, but it wasn't at ALL what I was expecting him to say.

I asked him if he'd seen his wife and children. (I didn't mention Meredith, his wife, by name.) He told me he'd be seeing them next.


Are his wife Meredith and children pass away? if not, it may be a message or warning.


I think the insinuation here may have been that Gary was going to visit these living people in their dreams or make his energetic presence known to them in some other way. (Of course Bill, who had the dream, might know better about the intended meaning.) It would be interesting to find out if his wife and children do have dreams about him in the next couple of days, or do have a "ghost" experience.

[Caliban]

I imagine that the afterlife is like a series of holding pens...we experience each pen with anticipation that the pen we are in is the final one. Not so. Who knows if the personality/ego takes a longer time for some of us than others, to peel away.

Holding pens... What does that say about what we're all involved in - Creation - if that's what we can expect on the other side? That's really astonishing if you stop and think about it, not to mention depressing. So which is the real prison - the material world or what comes after?

Something in all of this doesn't make sense. Or maybe it's the wrong information that doesn't make sense. Maybe Creation itself cannot be understood until we reach some kind of liberation. Still, it's rather sad.

[dpwishy]

What if the deceiver (satan) is just that? The very definition of the word....

What would be the greatest deception possible?
To make you believe that everything you were working for happened AFTER this...
What if this is heaven?

Those who have experienced an egoless state....
How was it?

Maybe its just me but I have no conscious awareness off these states until I am back in the "I". Its the coming back into ego, the very seconds of, that makes me aware and understand what non ego is. Its actually the contrast of, that shows this. Thats important to remember as what we are not in ego, is literally everything. What is up when you are up and down, what is left when you are left and right. The true power comes in the separation of these things, for in the separation, for in the contrast, you can grasp who you are.

In the grand scheme of this understanding,
how powerful is it without the contrast to understand it?
I dont think its possible to understand who we are without the contrast,
or we wouldnt have created this.
I think its integral to our understanding of who we are,
two sides of a single coin.

In fact, this aspect of the coin may be the most beneficial as its usable.
Meaning, we can work with it as left or right, up or down.
Its in the separation, in this side of this coin,
that our glory is found and utilized....

So what is heaven?

Heaven is here and now,
it always was.
The deceiver earned its name for a reason....

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

[jake gittes]

I had to have a pet doggy buddy of mine put down a few months ago. Recently I had a dream about him. It was very brief, one of those fleeting dreams. I entered a room and he was sitting on a love seat with someone, who asked me if I wanted to pet him. "Ahh, this is just a dream," I said. Then I thought, "Hey, why not?" So I gently scratched the little swirling tuft on hair on his chest like I used to. I woke up very soon afterward and was scratching my pillow in the same manner. I was disappointed the dream was over but happy I got to "pet him" again! :)

[sandy]

I don't know much about dreams but have heard over and over again, that they are really all about ourselves??

I think that Brian was a wonderful man however had his demons just like the rest of us. Maybe being way out there in Ecuador and near Brian's final place of retreat, created a longing to connect and share .............only you know for sure Bill. :)

[Fellow Aspirant]

Hi Bill

This report made me sad. While I really liked the part about you and Brian getting to hug and be in each others' company once more, the response he gave about how 'abominable' the experience was really got to me. How deflating! One possible reason, for me, for his having had an abominable time of it is that he left his close family behind. I've often wondered about how satisfying the 'far side' could be without the companionship of my loved ones. I feel sorry for Brian, and for you, and for those of us who now must question the prospect of a spiritually fulfilling after'life'. Does loneliness rule? Being able to reunite in dreams in a somewhat physical way might be some compensation, but if so, why does it happen so infrequently, if at all? Why don't our departed loved ones return in our dreams to spend more time with us?
If any one of us was prepared to deal with the hereafter, I would have considered Brian O'Leary to be one of the best in this regard. If HE is having trouble, there must be some really unexpectedly bad possibilities out there.

Maybe he'll make contact again soon, with more information. And is it possible to contact his family to ask if they have been likewise visited?

Namaste, Bill :heart:

Brian

[sigma6]

Many possibilities here;

1) This was a "impostor" astral being, messing with you - probably knowing that this would be a message to reach a lot of seekers through Bill.

2) This was Bill's unconscioussness - after dealing with underground/conspiracy stuff for years, this is some what normal! :)

3) This was a real message from Brian O'Leary - in spirit/astral or whatever form he's in now.

4) This was really Brian - a playful side of him - joking around! :)

5) This was an entirely random dream originated from coincidental brain cell interactions. (Ok people, we also have to think about materalistic/pseudo-sceptic ones. They are human too!)

Given the limited info, I'd have to go with #2, I can't believe the other side would be "abominable" I'm assuming Brian was a "good human being" too, one of the best out there... a real warrior of truth... whereas #2 would fit the struggles we all have here, he could be symbolic of all truther's struggles (he was a classic truther...) and sometimes that experience can be overwhelming on this plane... i.e. abominable... I think it needs more interpretation... inner contemplation... just my 2cents ... thanks for sharing Bill... emotional dreams are very powerful... especially when they carry over into 'waking reality'... (which in another sense is really the dream isn't it...)

[araucaria]

I have never had contact from any dead relatives, although I have plenty of those, and I rarely have a numinous dream of any kind. I did report one last year, however, here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=895061&viewfull=1#post895061
The person involved was someone I did not even know personally, and who was actually still alive at the time. The possible relevance of this story would be in the appearance of a kind of keyword, and the unlikely manner in which a wholly satisfactory and powerfully positive interpretation came to me. The word “Chloe” was given a hard mineral meaning when it turned out to be the name of a greatly loved little girl. I’m not suggesting there is a positive value to be placed on the word “abominable”. However if it is likewise placed in the context in which Brian O’Leary perhaps originally used it, that might shed some light on what this dream is all about.

I have a couple of Brian’s books that I will check out, but it may be something he said. Alternatively, Bill, it may be connected to something with your recent activity. That would answer the question “Why now?” Given that Brian was a future Mars astronaut, and that the Moon hoax material has just come up for reassessment on the forum, my tentative suggestion would be that it has something to do with that. As far as I know, Brian firmly believed in his future Mars mission and he believed the astronauts went to the Moon; at least he did when he wrote Exploring Inner and Outer Space back in 1989. If that whole paradigm collapsed with the realization that the whole thing was a cruel farce, then that might warrant the use of the word “abominable” without having anything to do with anyone’s experience of the afterlife as a whole.

[Adi]

Not going to lie but what he said to you Bill, is disconcerting. I'm intrigued though, would these be the kind of words that Brian would have used in his general conversations, words such as 'abominable',etc. Can you recall if you felt he was in some way sad or let down?

Thanks,

Adi

[Marikins]

Bill, why did you have to chose your words carefully? Was this a key code of some kind? A reminder you have set for yourself?

[East Sun]

I think what comes to you in dreams is some profound message only you can decipher, Bill

[Constance]

Bill, have you seen the movie Source Code yet?

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, have you seen the movie Source Code yet?

Yes... fascinating, thought-provoking and very clever. I've seen it a couple of times now.

Like Groundhog Day (which, unlike Source Code, was an inspired comedy, of course), it features some extremely profound spiritual truths.

[Bill Ryan]

Bill, why did you have to chose your words carefully? Was this a key code of some kind? A reminder you have set for yourself?

Because, in the dream, I didn't want to reveal to the friend next to me — until afterwards — that Brian was actually dead. So I chose the deliberate wording
"How are things in the realms where you are now?"That could have referred to him being in a different country, a different job, etc. But Brian himself would have known exactly what I meant. :)

[Hervé]

FWIW, that "abominable" word is solidly link to "Tintin in Tibet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin_in_Tibet)" and the "Abominable Snowman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abominable_Snowman_%28disambiguation%29)"...

[Chester]

In the last twenty years I have had 5 very vivid dreams about a specific NFL football game where the teams in my dream were playing the next day. In each case one team appeared to dominate the other in the dream. The first few times I actually bet on the team that dominated in my dream. I lost both bets the next day. The third and fourth time I didn't bet but still, the team that dominated in my dream did not dominate the next day and certainly didn't cover the point spread.

The last time this happened I actually had bet on the team a few days before the dream. I was living in Panama and had made my wager at one of the local (legal) betting shops. I had the selection in a parlay (an accumulator) and the team I bet on had to give 3.5 points. If I had bet them alone, I would have bought the spread down to -3 points but I was greedy and had them in a 3 team parlay where I was not allowed to buy points.

The night before the game I dreamed my team, the Philadelphia Eagles was dominating the team I had bet against - the Dallas Cowboys. Simply dominating. And then the next day, after having already won the first two selections in my parlay... it all came down to this game. Again, the reality was that Philadelphia didn't dominate and in fact Dallas was ahead in the third quarter. Yet all I needed was for Philadelphia to win by 4 or more points. The Eagles tied the game, stopped Dallas on the next drive and then threw a long bomb for a touchdown which put the Eagles up by 7. Another stop of the Cowboys gave the eagles the ball with under 7 minutes left. They drove deep down into Cowboy territory yet settled for only a field goal putting them up by 10 points. Sure enough, Dallas came down to score a meaningless touchdown (as there was little hope they could win) where the Eagles secured the victory but only by three points. Link Here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Dallas_Cowboys_season#Week_14:_vs._Philadelphia_Eagles) I lost the bet by a 1/2 point! Uggghhh.

My dreams are 0 - 5 now versus the spread. The chances of that are one in thirty two. I am glad I have had no more NFL football dreams as I would probably bet the other side and that would be the one time my dream turned out prophetic.

[Chester]

Bill, have you seen the movie Source Code yet?

Thank You, I picked it up a few days ago and got to watch it tonight. What a wonderful movie - again thanks for the recommendation... Sam.

[Chuck_M]

http://projectavalon.net/Brian_O_Leary_best_photo_by_Jeff_vsm.jpg


Hello, All — I do think this qualifies as a "remarkable personal experience" (the name of the section I've posted this in). :)

Last night I had a most unusual dream, and I got up immediately (at 4 am) to write it all down.

In the dream, I was having dinner with a couple of people (who I seemed to know a little in my dream, but do not know in reality). Then Brian O'Leary came in to say Hi. As many of you know, I counted him as a good personal friend. But this was the first time I'd ever dreamed about him.

I was delighted to see him, of course. I knew full well, in my dream, that he was dead (he passed over in 2011), but was somehow reappearing as 100% solid and human. As he gave me a very warm hug, I elbowed the woman next to me, kind of poking her to pay attention, because after Brian left I'd tell her that this friend of mine was actually dead. So I wanted her to notice what was happening.

Brian was friendly and cheerful, and appeared absolutely as he was when I knew him. I somehow knew I needed to choose my words carefully. I asked him (quote), "How are things in the realms where you are now?"

Brian replied (quote, his exact words), "It's been an abominable experience. I wouldn't recommend it." He was smiling, but it wasn't at ALL what I was expecting him to say.

I asked him if he'd seen his wife and children. (I didn't mention Meredith, his wife, by name.) He told me he'd be seeing them next.

I was hugging him all this time. Then in the dream, I began to tear up a little, now feeling very emotional. He said he had to go.

Then, immediately, I woke up.

:star:
Hi Bill,
Thanks for sharing this dream with us, and the photo of Brian. Seeing him there in Montesuenos brings back such sweet memories. I know what a kindred spirit you were with Brian, especially remembering your common experiences climbing the Swiss Alps, symbolic of a spirit of adventure and overcoming obstacles.
What I notice in the dream is your delight at seeing Brian as you hugged each other, the fact that he was cheerful and friendly throughout, and he was even smiling as he said that his experience in his present realms was abominable. The tone of the encounter seems very positive, aside from your reaction to his words.
Here is an odd interpretation, which is probably my own fanciful thinking, but what if he was referring to how his experience is/has been on the earth plane, which is where he was at the moment? I'm sure he would describe much of his experience while I knew him as abominable, but he'd say it with a smile. I know that when you ask a question of the unconscious you have to be very careful with your wording because the unconscious will respond in a totally literal way. Possibly Brian also responded literally to "the realms where you are now" in terms of visiting this earth realm again and commiserating with you about the challenges you both shared in trying to make the world a better place.

[amor]

Dear Bill: If you keep Brian's personality in your mind, he will visit you again in many ways. I feel my mother and father's personality always. My father told my mother when he visited her in a dream after his unnatural death in the hospital that he was neither in heaven nor hell. He also came to tell us, several weeks after his passing, on the same night in simultaneous dreams of this unnatural passing. After my mother's death, apparently, I was not to worry my mother but to let her REST. In this dream a most unusual creature who looked like a Pennsylvania Dutch wooden nurse painted in an outfit of red, black and white with a savage disposition blocked my passage to my mother who was asleep on a bed on her right. Are we given a period of rest after we die? I also saw my dearest friend and my mother standing on a place as bare as a billiard ball with a green net suspended on poles extending as far as I could see. Also, something strange is taking place in my consciousness. Images of people pop into my mind, people I do not know. Recently, the images have been appearing in very vivid color. Some of these flashes are so real in 3D that it is as though I was actually there. I know when family members are thinking of me as their images and personality presence becomes vividly insistent. Solitude is sharpening my psychic vision. I believe we all have this power when we are left in peace.

[kirolak]

I didn't notice this thread before (have been having a bad experience being overworked, minus one lost contact lense)

Perhaps your friend was going through a reliving of past events, which apparently can be quite traumatic. It was actually years before my gran amor, who committed suicide, met with me in the astral to explain his actions & to say goodbye, as he was moving on & would not be able to communicate again. He was not afraid, but seemed rather depressed.

I feel certain that meeting & replaying of our past selves & actions at certain points in our just-ended physical lives can be quite "abominable", but it is still just a passing, learning experience. I'd certainly not take it to mean that the Afterlife is anything to be feared, certainly no more than this so-called present existence is.

Thank you for sharing, Bill! I hope you are in contact with this lovely soul again, & can ask for clarification. His eyes are beautiful, & radiate positivity.

[merecat]

Makes me wonder whose realm Brian was in at that time