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apokalypse
16th December 2015, 11:05
People in here have discussed about it but had a thought about it for a month now and more of self realization.

about a month ago in the afternoon in the afternoon on my mind i thought it's 1-2pm but when i looked at the clock already 5pm, from there i always question is time illusion? the problem is the clock? if i get rid of the clock then my mind always think 4-5 hours behind but because of the clock it changes my thought.

times go quick because we made it go quick? every time we look at the clock we reprogram your mind and having thought of time goes fast but it happen in instance or only minutes instead of hours...

i find the problem is the clock have put it here for negative reason...

Aurelius
16th December 2015, 12:41
quite an important thread, has deep implications & ramifications ...

my 10 cents: time is relative to the observer and the frame of reference the observer is within. ie. when you daydream, even though the observer is the same, the frame of reference has been changed. When you stop day dreaming, you're back in the frame of reference that your clock is in (as per your example above). Time appears to slow down or even speed up, when switching from one frame of ref to another.

When you look at the planet Mars and see someone looking at you .. different observers, same frame of reference ...

When you take a trip in a ufo, same observer, depending on where you go, the frames of reference can be radically different. ie. massive slips in time.

Time & our Mind, are all structures that are part of an "information field". The information is tightly coupled within the same frame of reference. But one frame of ref is very loosely coupled with another.

Finefeather
16th December 2015, 13:56
It's all about reality... or where you are at any given moment... time is constant in each world... and directly proportional to the difference in vibrational speed in each world.

This means that in the physical world something may take you one hour whilst in the emotional(astral)(feelings) world it may take 5 minutes... and in the mental(thinking) world, 1 second... if you time it from the physical world...

But if you actually leave your body and operate in either the emotional or the mental world it will seem as if it still takes 1 hour because the 'frame of reference' is in a different higher rate of frequency world.

Time is simply a measure of a cycle or duration... humans measure time by the rotation of the earth.

Time seems to slow down and speed up depending on your presence in your physical world body.

WhiteLove
16th December 2015, 19:03
People in here have discussed about it but had a thought about it for a month now and more of self realization.

about a month ago in the afternoon in the afternoon on my mind i thought it's 1-2pm but when i looked at the clock already 5pm, from there i always question is time illusion? the problem is the clock? if i get rid of the clock then my mind always think 4-5 hours behind but because of the clock it changes my thought.

times go quick because we made it go quick? every time we look at the clock we reprogram your mind and having thought of time goes fast but it happen in instance or only minutes instead of hours...

i find the problem is the clock have put it here for negative reason...

In my understanding timelessness is stateless. If a stateful being experiences a stateless reality, time stands still. If a stateless being experiences a stateful reality, time stands still. In other words, time is an illusion when the reality is stateless or when the being is stateless. Time is not an illusion when the reality is stateful and when the being is stateful. But what is stateful and what is stateless is something that happens within consciousness. The density has a certain vibration that the consciousness is in resonance with. But when the consciousness exits the frequency range of that density, it will perceive that density as stateless from that perspective. When you enter a different density, time there ticks at a different rate, faster or slower depending on the relative difference of the frequency between those two densities. Because the speed of light is subject to the gravity of the density. Without gravity, the speed of light would be infinite and hence there would not be any densities. Then time would be an illusion. Instead, you can understand existence as circles within circles, going infinitely in two directions (each circle being a density with a frequency), where each circle is light travelling one cycle at a certain time, depending on its circumference. Imagine that you are standing on a small circle that rotates much faster than some larger circle outside of it, due to its smaller circumference. This means one cycle is faster in terms of time, but since you are at resonance with it, you are not going to notice this difference until you step outside of it. If you have two densities, density A with a radius of lets say 48 000 km and density B with a radius of lets say 96 000 km. Then the speed of light at density A is around 300 million m/s. But the speed of light at density B is 600 million m/s. Imagine then that in density A you have one earth and in density B you have a copy of that earth, meaning that both have the same radius. In density A earth has a frequency of 7,8 Hz and in density B earth has a frequency of 15,6 Hz. This means that from the perspective of density A, it is a 1:2 ratio in time between density A and density B, meaning 1 second on density A is 2 seconds on density B. And from the perspective of density B it is a 2:1 ratio in time between density B and density A, meaning 1 second on density B is 0,5 second on density A. This means that to travel into the future you would step from density B to density A and then back to density B. If you would travel much into the future, you would have to make multiple steps - B -> A -> X -> XX -> XXX -> XXXX -> XXX -> XX -> A -> B. While you are at density XXXX, time is rushing by much more quickly on your original earth, so a 10 minute stay at density XXXX, could be say days/weeks/months/years on your original earth depending on the density difference between all of these densities. Since there are no limits, you should be able to figure out a way of repeating certain times, possibly by jumping between densities in a certain pattern, because you can do A -> B -> C -> B -> A, but also A1 -> C -> B -> A2, that depends on the dimensionality of nature, because there could not only be circles within circles infinitely in two directions, but in infinite directions - essentially meaning there are no limits, which I believe is the case. When we see a UFO in the sky, it might be they are here purely for time travelling. They might from their perspective not be particularly interested in our earth at that point, but they have chosen to pass by in order to manage their time according to their needs. One interesting bi-effect of this, is the fact that you could live a life, fine tune it. Live it again, fine tune it again, until it is 100% perfect according to your inner desires. Then at that point you go to some totally different time and space and tune yourself there as well. It's not entirely impossible that this might be going on out there... It must exist if creation is unlimited, and I think it is...

Sunny-side-up
16th December 2015, 21:36
could be something like this ?:
Our consciousness as in this material realm, has been given frames of reference so that it can seem to move (Frames of reference to jail it), when really all time is here and now, no distance, just consciousness!

seah
17th December 2015, 16:52
time and movement are stuck together, and humanity is locked into both, but it is merely a condition of living in a flesh and bones body.
Then we are further prisoners to clocks.