Poll: Will the dollar soon collapse?

[mojo]

Is something big coming in 2016? The intent here is echoed in the title of the video, No fear but prepare... mention of places not to be at the time...

So please share and vote...

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[ThePythonicCow]

Unfortunately, that video is a bit of fear mongering, from two years ago, predicting a world economic collapse sometime in 2014.

It has elements of truth, but so does most "good" fear mongering.

The better we understand a situation, the better we can adapt.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Bit of a tall order, expecting we mere Avalonians to know for certain that the dollar is about to collapse (again!), when insiders of the calibre of Catherine Austin Fitts claim that such knowledge is beyond her pay grade. The title of the video is just as Paul claims - alarmist fearmongering, and deserves to be consigned to the bs: column.

Her advice in the face of uncertainty, by the way, is to look after your own financial resources - keep it personal - as there are usually ways for individuals and families to survive a crash. She doesn't deny that one could happen, but maintains that no one has the gift of prophecy.

Brian

[ghostrider]

Edward Meier has said , there will come a time when you might as well roll cigarettes with your paper money ...

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Soon as the petro-dollar is no longer the world reserve currency , the value will be 50 cents on the dollar and the price of goods will double overnight ... the Iraq war was more about the dollar than oil ...

[Bubu]

I want to see the collapse of dollar peso euro and all... as mentioned above this deserves a place in the BS column.

[Zionbrion]

Edward Meier has said , there will come a time when you might as well roll cigarettes with your paper money ...

Maybe if it was printed on hemp. :)

[Mutchie]

Here in Scotland the oil industry is in disarray we are seeing unemployment like NEVER BEFORE i am out of work at the moment having launched a limited company last year it was ALL GOOD for the 1st year then around feb it just DIED a lot of my friends have been made redundant & companys are closing ... I'm wandering how long the world can cope in the face of such low oil prices.... As for the American economy they MUST be feeling the effects of the downturn WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF HER ECONOMY COLLAPSES ????

[Jayren]

You don't want to know what will happen, it's best if you just wait for it to happen and find out then. Until then everything else is just speculation.

[Baby Steps]

I think we can guage the date by watching the BRICS preparations. Have they got their banking, payments systems etc up and running, and ready to run independently of current systems?

Brics will then start dumping dollar debt, I think that forces the Saudis to sell oil in other currencies, the dollar drops, all major western banks collapse.

That scenario may not be so apocalyptic however.
The USA is an economic superpower with considerable production capacity within its own borders including energy, heavy industry and hi tech. Imports will decrease, triggering a domestic manufacturing boom.

The USA will have to wind down its foreign military presence, and many will see that as a good thing.

If the dollar goes down by 50%, I wonder what Paul would say about all the sovereign debt denominated in dollars?

[Althena]

Is something big coming in 2016? The intent here is echoed in the title of the video, No fear but prepare... mention of places not to be at the time...

So please share and vote...

_ROiplEV6I0



This is on of the reasons why I moved to S.A. to the Andes to be exact.

Move away and stay away from cities, prep up and stay frosty, good luck and godspeed...

[ghostrider]

Financial collapse is a certainty, only a matter of time ...the lender will own the collateral ...oops almost forgot , we have no gold, its been moved out of country , everything they do is on purpose, THE agenda -total control , to implement a NEW order the old one MUST collapse... Time to assemble the greatest puzzle of all time ... Please wake up ...

[TargeT]

Financial collapse is a certainty, only a matter of time ...the lender will own the collateral ...oops almost forgot , we have no gold, its been moved out of country , everything they do is on purpose, THE agenda -total control , to implement a NEW order the old one MUST collapse... Time to assemble the greatest puzzle of all time ... Please wake up ...

I agree that it WILL happen.

I'm dubious as to "when"... I think there is more money than most people even realize and crashing this beast will be harder than was thought originally... and with THAT in mind I expect some other shenanigans to be coupled with the economic attacks we've seen recently to help force the topple.

[Deega]

I vote No for the reason, that we the small people will be the most affected by $ collapse, the wealthy will find a way more easy to go through it. I also think No, even if the Illuminati, the Rockerfeller, Rotschild, other riches of the World, the IMF, the World Bank, haven't yet find a way to make them profit from the collapse, as soon as they find something to make profit for them, they won't hesitate.

But, I could of voted Yes ($ collapse), on another field, the $ will gradually be set aside with the use of plastic cards, and then, we will be in their Database to be used on us. And this is coming our way faster than we think.

Another possible partner, the Bitcoin adventure, the Banks are probably working to find a base in, or, they're making every effort they can to deter that initiative.:thumbsdown:

And what will be the progressive power of the BRICK Bank of development over the dollar, my guess is, if Russia win the big challenge in Syria, Russia will benefit greatly from that experiment and the monetary, contractual exchanges will prospered to Russia advantage.

[Rocky_Shorz]

in 2011, Charles strolled into Avalon and told all of us his buddies in London, were going to rock the world's economics through 2016, so we have something to look forward to, 2017!!!

by allowing foreigners to repatriate dollars by buying up land, it will pump well needed cash back to the US, then Trump can walk into office, and take all the land back or offer an option to pay a penalty for the recent games they played...

fasten your seat belt, rough waters ahead...

[regnak]

dollar is the safe currency until 2017 why well shy high dollar will dethrone the dollar ;)

[Gaia]

in 2011, Charles strolled into Avalon and told all of us his buddies in London, were going to rock the world's economics through 2016, so we have something to look forward to, 2017!!!

by allowing foreigners to repatriate dollars by buying up land, it will pump well needed cash back to the US, then Trump can walk into office, and take all the land back or offer an option to pay a penalty for the recent games they played...

fasten your seat belt, rough waters ahead...

Things have moved on since Charles/Atticus/Steven Hodges :playball::target::target::target:

[TargeT]

Things have moved on since Charles/Atticus/Steven Hodges :playball::target::target::target:

Go back and review a bit of that material... it hasn't really moved much....


BTW, I voted NO because of the uncertainties with the timeline.

[Fellow Aspirant]

I think we can guage the date by watching the BRICS preparations. Have they got their banking, payments systems etc up and running, and ready to run independently of current systems?

Brics will then start dumping dollar debt, I think that forces the Saudis to sell oil in other currencies, the dollar drops, all major western banks collapse.

That scenario may not be so apocalyptic however.
The USA is an economic superpower with considerable production capacity within its own borders including energy, heavy industry and hi tech. Imports will decrease, triggering a domestic manufacturing boom.

The USA will have to wind down its foreign military presence, and many will see that as a good thing.

If the dollar goes down by 50%, I wonder what Paul would say about all the sovereign debt denominated in dollars?


The BRICS economies are either stunted (China) or struggling on the verge of their own imminent collapses - Brazil in particular. No one should expect any real, effective global game-changing policies to be coming from these countries. They've got their hands full just staying solvent.

B.

[ghostrider]

The cabal has been trying to collapse the money all along , they are not stupid, they have a plan , and many backup plans ... This agenda for a new world order goes way back... If they create enough chaos, suffering,and wars , people will gladly give up their freedoms for a chance to catch their breath even though we know it is a trap ...

[Rocky_Shorz]

America has a 2-3 Trillion dollar economy outside of the banks, they can pull the collapse strings but it isn't working...

If they draw it too tight, greenbacks will be created with Trumps big smiling face...

On the back Rand Paul flipping off the pyramid...

[mgray]

I'm wandering how long the world can cope in the face of such low oil prices.... As for the American economy they MUST be feeling the effects of the downturn WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF HER ECONOMY COLLAPSES ????

Please Mutchie rethink what you just posted.

Low oil prices are a symptom of a weakening global economy. The economy is not weak because of low crude prices.

As for the dollar, it will not be dethroned because we own the printing presses. Europe does not. The euro goes before any other currency.

Whomever has a problem with that we will disgrace them like the last two IMF chiefs and since we control the World Bank, the proof is in the pudding.

[ThePythonicCow]

As for the dollar, it will not be dethroned
I expect we are not far from the day when you will find yourself rethinking that :).

The "promises to pay" (debt at all levels, derivatives, social program commitments, ...) so vastly exceed what can be delivered that the economy (at all levels and in all regions) is being destroyed and the promises are bankrupt. A healthy economy puts aside some "seeds", some investment in skills, tools and infrastructure to improve future productivity. A sick economy, such as we have now, spends its excess on debt payments, social welfare programs, and the military/intelligence apparatus required to maintain political tyranny.

Either we continue to have too little income to make debt payments (at all levels) and we go bankrupt, starting from the weaker and working into the central banks, or else we "print" enough to fund nominal payments and promises, and the Dollar becomes worthless, or, perhaps more likely, we do both, first the deflation we're doing now, as the dollar rises, rises and rises some more, then inflation as the dollar collapses and is rejected.

Fortunately this crisis has taken longer to unfold than I anticipated, which has given me extra time to refine my explanation and understanding of what's "just around the corner", real soon now. I've been saying "real soon now" for almost a decade. I'll get this right sooner or later <grin>.

[mgray]

Paul, what currency has the full-faith and backing of the US dollar with the US military?

That's all the credit check you need on the worthiness of the greenback.

It's way past debits and credits entered into a ledger. If the exporting of inflation does not take down the competition (BRICS) then gunboat diplomacy is next.

That's the game plan. So to think there is a date certain or a decade certain for dethroning King Dollar? That Shakespearean play has not been written.

[ThePythonicCow]

Paul, what currency has the full-faith and backing of the US dollar with the US military?

That's all the credit check you need on the worthiness of the greenback.

It's way past debits and credits entered into a ledger. If the exporting of inflation does not take down the competition (BRICS) then gunboat diplomacy is next.

That's the game plan. So to think there is a date certain or a decade certain for dethroning King Dollar? That Shakespearean play has not been written.

The U.S. Military has been the primary "value" behind the U.S. Dollar, yes.

That too shall pass, or is already passing.

There is no date certain for the collapse of the US Dollar, or if there is, I certainly have not been told about it.

But I remain confident, as I have for the last decade, that by this time next year, that date will have come and gone, and the collapse will have happened.

(yes, a bit of sardonic humor, at my own predictive failures, for ten years running now.)

[norman]

Paul, what currency has the full-faith and backing of the US dollar with the US military?

That's all the credit check you need on the worthiness of the greenback.

It's way past debits and credits entered into a ledger. If the exporting of inflation does not take down the competition (BRICS) then gunboat diplomacy is next.

That's the game plan. So to think there is a date certain or a decade certain for dethroning King Dollar? That Shakespearean play has not been written.

The U.S. Military has been the primary "value" behind the U.S. Dollar, yes.

That too shall pass, or is already passing.

There is no date certain for the collapse of the US Dollar, or if there is, I certainly have not been told about it.

But I remain confident, as I have for the last decade, that by this time next year, that date will have come and gone, and the collapse will have happened.

(yes, a bit of sardonic humor, at my own predictive failures, for ten years running now.)

With the Illuminatti deal to give the management of the whole of the middle east for the next stage of the plan to Iran, Your prediction has moved a step closer, for sure. The Saudis will now drag China closer to the crux of collapse now they've been dumped as the favorites in that region. I'm still puzzled how the big showdown with Russia and china and US will take shape but America is safe until it's not required. As of right now, I think it still is, but it's coming very close to time to take down the US. The middle east situation has giver the US a couple of years extra time but the ongoing destruction within the US is now so advanced they can't hold it back much longer, that's why they had to change plans and do a deal with Iran to resolve the hold up in that region.

I think one thing to consider is the coming election. There may be some slack in the plan for the US according to how that shapes up and concludes.

[mgray]

I'll agree to disagree Paul. The global structure aligned with the dollar is so massive that to tilt the scale against it would require an event of biblical proportions.

[TargeT]

I'll agree to disagree Paul. The global structure aligned with the dollar is so massive that to tilt the scale against it would require an event of biblical proportions.

I agree to some extent, but I think those events are already, and have been happening: "Terrorism"

the majority of the world population believes that terrorism is real & not a government created (or participated in at least) thing & will fall for this theater.

so I do think it's going to be way harder to crash the dollar than anticipated, but I also am not very confident in the average citizen of earth's ability to critically think.

[robcarratello]

The US dollar will colapse when the global elite want it to collapse. Unless, of course, the blue avians come save the day.

[Kazba]

If enough countries had the proper expertise in economics, the chutzpah to do an Iceland, and the resolve to self sufficient resistance to the global banking cartel, we could starve these parasitical narcissistic sociopaths. Will it happen? History speaks of the odds lying with the controllers, but who knows how many awake people will find quick smart ways to educate the masses (if they will be educated)? Will the US dollar collapse? If resistance becomes a threat, I think it will be expedient for them to create chaos/distraction. Otherwise an orderly conversion into a transhumanist, technologically controlled lockdown is more efficient for them.

[Nick07]

Money is fake in my opinion, there is nothing backing it, I have no clue what is going happen with the dollar in the future but the main problem is that we are waking up and starting to see how fake is really is (money). The powers that be need it to control us, so they scare us with recessions and weak dollar values. I believe that money is a way for them to keep us as loyal slaves but make us think we are not slaves. Simon Parkes talks about this and he makes really good points if you have not watched any of his videos on YouTube I highly recommend them.

[pyrangello]

So here in the states we heard all about Greece for months and then poof no more news , like everything is fixed, yeah right. Half of all Americans are invested in 401k in Europe so yes Europe plays a critical part of financial healthiness of Americans as well as themselves and their countries , the vote totals for the usa presidential election are counted in spain. Really Spain why is that, can't we count ourselfs? China shut down its stock market today because why? Because it can after a 7% drop. The US stock market can do the same thing, Why? Because it can . Of the last 18 months or so of stock purchasing or selling here in the states 15 months have had more selling taking place than purchasing thus the exit doors have been in full swing for private investors for some time. Of the 600 currencies ever created in the world , ALL OF THEM have failed or reset to another. Is it the end of the world when things shift such as the dollar , no. Its just another transition time for all of to be prepared for as best as we can, yes. Its not about living in fear, its really about being as educated as you can such as Avalon and the opinions expressed here which eliminate the fear once you understand whats happening as best as you can. When and if the dollar ever goes remember "wealth is never lost but instead it is always transferred to someone else", thats the game the big boys play and were just the pawns on the side. I was never a big fan of gold or silver but this type of monetary structure has been around for thousands of years so you be the judge.There are so many things out of our control its pointless to exert any energy on them worrying about them . But do stay focused on your friends , family, and community where you can make a difference and the environment, plants ,animals and mother earth. My recommendation is prep to a point and stop worrying and just live your life everyday and thank god for the so many things he gave us to enjoy! :), that's most important above all else .

[ThePythonicCow]

Money is fake in my opinion, there is nothing backing it
In my current view, that's one of the Great Lies, Grand Myths, of our time.

Money is lent into existence ... you get the money, they get a signed contract of some sort promising greater returns in the future, whether by repayment or repossession of property or income streams.

Almost anytime a mouse and a mammoth enter into a contract, it is to the disadvantage of the mouse. The lenders of our money have the full force of massive financial, bureaucratic, legal, police, media, intelligence, and military institutions on their side ... they will collect ... even if you are a major nuclear armed world power.

Money is not just printed ... it is lent!

Money lending, between parties of unequal power, is a major means by which the powerful become more powerful, and the meek become enslaved.

[Bill Ryan]

Money is lent into existence

Yep. For those who've never seen it, Money As Debt is an excellent primer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8

[ThePythonicCow]

Yep. For those who've never seen it, Money As Debt is an excellent primer:
Much (all?) of the outrage expressed in this video against usury, lending money created out of thin air, and such is deliberately, I believe, missing the key issues.

Centrally controlled, debt-money systems can be cycled through boom and bust cycles until the lenders own all resources and production, confiscated in defaults or bought for pennies on the dollar (as the world will soon witness in one of the greatest economic collapses in history.)

Centrally controlled systems that are not debt-money based can be converted to debt-money systems by hijacking the central control (as the US Federal Reserve was created.)

Money systems that are not centrally controlled can be made so by finding other choke points to push the economy through enough boom and bust cycles that the people demand central control to "fix things".

In a centrally controlled, debt-money system, the lenders (creators of both the money and the debt) will increase lending until every resource (buildings, mines, factories, water plants, ...) and every income stream (whether private wages, corporate earnings or public taxes) is pledged against some debt. Then the lenders will retract lending, destroying the ability of individuals, local and national governments and corporations to meet debt payments, and assume control of all that was offered as collateral.

The ability to create and control these booms and busts is the means by which the lenders gain control over money, converting it into something that they lend into existence, and having done that, then becomes the means by which the lenders gain ownership of all that was pledged as collateral.

This imminent collapse will not mark the end of the boom and bust cycles afflicting humanity. Rather it will be one more ratcheting up of the world-wide control, as some institutions and individuals are cut out, and replaced by others, in the grand scheme of control and ownership of this planet and of humanity.

This video is a distraction, like so many, deflecting our outrage to what will no longer, or what has not been for some time, the fundamental nature of the present and impending dangers sucking out the life blood, the freedom, and the self-actualization, of humanity.

[Rha S ananda]

was reading page1 thinking i was on page2. so a late quote...




Things have moved on since Charles/Atticus/Steven Hodges :playball::target::target::target:

Go back and review a bit of that material... it hasn't really moved much....


BTW, I voted NO because of the uncertainties with the timeline.

Vote: NO also, doesn't mean it wont get worse... but collapse is an extremity
Indeed, didn't "looking glass" broke down in 2011?....
and probibilities..
Same as Anglo-Saxxon mission is a failed timeline/probibility based on non-events that were required in teh timeline to attain...

re the whole: Charles/Atticus/Steven Hodges/Michal Stanislaw Wozniak saga.

so turned out Q my gf had to simon parkes(@WSR) also goes for the same controller groups... linking .pl <-> .uk once again..

i agree vid is distraction and "attention direction" focus manipulation (energy goes where attention goes... ) predictive programming

[conk]

The Fed may be able to postpone the crash, but can never stop it. It's all by design. My simple mind asks the question, can they inflate the currency to infinity? Somewhere between here/now and infinity, that's where the calamity hits its apex. They may do it intentionally or be caught by surprise. The whole scam is so outrageous that the perps don't fully understand it.