Dick pics, Snowden and John Oliver

[Flash]

You absolutely absolutely have to listen to that video from start TO finish. please post it around, Facebook and all. Also very funny Entertainment, a good laugh.

John Oliver has succeeded to have Snowden explain in very lay terms, WHY what he did is SO important for America, and the world, explained in a way the dummest can understand.

Bravo John Oliver,



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M

[Arcturian108]

Well, Section 215 was kept in the Patriot Act on June 2nd, 2015, I am sorry to say.

[sandy]

Thank Flash.....................this is not only funny it is truly very informative entertainment that should have the average person squawking.

But.......I think not as according to the above post, I guess the dick pic program is alive and well. :(

Well lets hope they catch a few pedophiles at least...but then we know the upper echelon is rampant with them so maybe not (oh what a wicked web it is all the way around) !!

[Matt P]

Maybe it's just me but I didn't find John's show or interview funny at all (I watched to the 26 min mark). Actually, I thought it was extremely disrespectful. Snowden, if he is all that some think he is, risked and continues to risk his life for something that is so big and important few can even comprehend it. Imagine you had to leave your family and country and live in exile just because you saw something illegal and reported it, knowing your government would come after you for it? And yet all John can do is make fun of the whole thing, with his stupid questions and foul mouth, diminishing the seriousness of the entire issue. And we wonder why people don't understand the topic and what the impact is.
And, by the way, John says the Patriot Act was written immediately after 9/11. This is a very calculated lie, meant to make sure the viewers don't get TOO much information. The Patriot Act was written well before 9/11 but never stood a chance until that false flag was pulled off. Too bad this couldn't have been discussed seriously.
This could have been funny, informative and respectful but sadly very little of these were accomplished.

Matt

[Krist]

Thanks Matt,
Your post prompted me to watch....I made it to 20:02.
and...I feel ya.

[Flash]

I agree with you for the level of knowledge and true education most of Avalon members have, you are entirely right. If it were not addresssed to the main masses, I would find Oliver futile and useless.

But I believe Oliver did the job nobody else dared to do. He addressed the masses. Like HEY stupid, Wake up!

However, nobody in the masses almost understand what Snowden did, what it was based on, the importance of it - ask your friends at Christmas what they understand about Snowden and NSA and you will be amazed at the ignorance.

This description with bottom understanding with their own body, and what lots of men in the gulley consider the most important part of it, makes it very clear to even the gulley ones. After this, nobody can tell me they have not understood what Snowden stood for. Even Snowden understood that the majority has not.

Comment from my 19 years old daughter: wow, I did not know Snowden was that cute. You see what I mean, she added: he is not doing an intellectual speech, sometimes does not like what is being said and he reacts naturally, he is cute, not just a nerd.

By the way, he does not have access to a dentist (his teeth have not been dentist cleaned for a while), and I bet to healthy food. He looks slim an unhealthy if you want my opinion.

I hope nobody will be shy of reposting because of your comment. See my reasons below.



Maybe it's just me but I didn't find John's show or interview funny at all (I watched to the 26 min mark). Actually, I thought it was extremely disrespectful. Snowden, if he is all that some think he is, risked and continues to risk his life for something that is so big and important few can even comprehend it. Imagine you had to leave your family and country and live in exile just because you saw something illegal and reported it, knowing your government would come after you for it? And yet all John can do is make fun of the whole thing, with his stupid questions and foul mouth, diminishing the seriousness of the entire issue. And we wonder why people don't understand the topic and what the impact is.
And, by the way, John says the Patriot Act was written immediately after 9/11. This is a very calculated lie, meant to make sure the viewers don't get TOO much information. The Patriot Act was written well before 9/11 but never stood a chance until that false flag was pulled off. Too bad this couldn't have been discussed seriously.
This could have been funny, informative and respectful but sadly very little of these were accomplished.

Matt

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Thanks Matt,
Your post prompted me to watch....I made it to 20:02.
and...I feel ya.

you should have made it to the end. The real stuff is there. Yet, still with the taste for the masses.

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side comment:

Those who have not work with the masses cannot understand how little they catch sometimes, how brainwashed they let themselves be, but how much they turn around and catch if you explain in gulley's terms. And once they do catch, they will never forget. It is shockingly gross but they will laugh it out and remember.

In these ways, Oliver has done an impeccable job. All those who have worked with thousands of regular folks, regular people, and couch potatoe TV people, know it.

I just hope it will be posted by all, for my dear and beloved human beings who cannot follow a forum like Avalon. But who can make sense of things when related to their daily life and what they deem very important.

[genevieve]

Confession: This is the only interview of Snowden that I've ever watched from start to finish.

I now have an even greater respect for him, especially because of Oliver's angle of approach (which I, too, found somewhat annoying but useful).

He answered the questions gracefully, stayed on point, and made clear the significance of what he'd done, plus he showed that he has a sense of humor.

I highly recommend it.

Thanks for posting it, Flash!


Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
genevieve

[Krist]

Ok Flash,
I'm taking your advice.
I value your opinion,thank you for the challenge.And it is a challenge....
I do find j oliver entertaining at times when it's available,that's not often.It's hard for me to find any humor in the info provided.

I get your point for the masses it could at least raise an eyebrow.
Really enjoy your 19 ers comment as I have one too.:sun:Have to see what mine says about said interview.

Funny,when I made my comment it was never intended to derail or encourage any one to avoid viewing the video.
If any thing,now may be more folks would be encouraged to view and comment.

Thanks Flash for the nudge.I have a long road ahead of me shedding the lovely veil of programming introduced from birth.

[Calz]

But I believe Oliver did the job nobody else dared to do. He addressed the masses. Like HEY stupid, Wake up!

However, nobody in the masses almost understand what Snowden did, what it was based on, the importance of it - ask your friends at Christmas what they understand about Snowden and NSA and you will be amazed at the ignorance.




I expect it goes beyond getting through to "the masses".

He has his audience ... and I expect they would have "switched off" almost immediately without getting the kind of entertainment they have come to expect.


Assuming this wasn't scripted (who knows) I was impressed with Snowden not only for being as calm and collected and running with the ... junk ... but also he was asked some specific questions about specific portions of what he released (an *enormous* amount of material}.

He handled himself quite well I thought.

[Flash]

Snowden was not scripted, looking at his non verbal, but Oliver was scripted one hundred percent. At one point, Oliver tells Snowden, when seeing him not at ease "you understand" at which Snowden says yes, and then get into the interview, playing the game sort of. Snowden understood this interview was for the larger audience.

If you do not get to the masses Calz, I believe change will not happen. The tipping point has to be processed, through the masses. Going beyond has already happened, now the masses have to be concerned.

Often Snowden looks on the bottom left of his body. i thought he was reading from prepared notes at first, but he was not. He is looking sideways, either he has some neurological tendencies that makes him not look to others directly, or he is used to say things in a certain way, and he is looking at notes in his mind, that were located on a table when he wrote (In NLP, bottom left is locating something seen in the past).

Then Oliver disbalanced that prep talks Snowden can give. So Snowden got to be reacting more naturally (hence the reactions of my daughter). I am pretty sure Snowden is under very difficult surveillance, now that USA and Russia are basically at war, and that he has little access to money - he seemed unhealthy.






But I believe Oliver did the job nobody else dared to do. He addressed the masses. Like HEY stupid, Wake up!

However, nobody in the masses almost understand what Snowden did, what it was based on, the importance of it - ask your friends at Christmas what they understand about Snowden and NSA and you will be amazed at the ignorance.




I expect it goes beyond getting through to "the masses".

He has his audience ... and I expect they would have "switched off" almost immediately without getting the kind of entertainment they have come to expect.


Assuming this wasn't scripted (who knows) I was impressed with Snowden not only for being as calm and collected and running with the ... junk ... but also he was asked some specific questions about specific portions of what he released (an *enormous* amount of material}.

He handled himself quite well I thought.

[hohoemi]

Compared to other John Oliver shows, this one was pretty painful to watch even without the background knowledge mentioned by mcpennery, with the way John Oliver kept interrupting Snowden's intelligent explanations and forcing him to reduce the issue to dick picks.
HOWEVER, i do believe that for large parts of the population, this may have been an efficient way to get the point across. And despite finding the interview very uncomfortable to watch, even with non-mainstream background knowledge I found it educational, given that when I heard about Snowden first, the only thing that registered for me was "Oh so now it's no longer a conspiracy theory that the NSA is spying on people, Snowden gave us proof".

[Matt P]

Those are great and valid points Flash. Thanks. I will watch the last few minutes. I meant no disrespect at all, it was just so painful to watch. I could just feel Snowden thinking, "Good lord, this is the state of American journalism that I have to be subjected to this idiocy on a comedy show because it's the only way to get any truth to an American audience."

Matt

[sigma6]

I think Snowden is very aware of the state of America, he's an American himself... none-the-less, that's not the issue... (there is no law against being an idiot... spiritual and moral issues aside) his more fundamental principle of (right to privacy) is sound... people have lost the idea of acting on principle... or I should say, it's an entirely different argument

The best "awkward" moment (which I thought the whole thing outrageously funny, but then again, that's what Oliver does...) But the best part was when Snowden clearly stated people shouldn't have to stop sending their "dic pics" ...and the crowd cheered... they got it... (i.e. at least the audience watching the interview was sophisticated enough to get it, they understood the higher principle... and Snowden showed he's not a naive puritan moralist... it's much bigger than that...

People have to start waking up to the very REAL implications of living in a Big Brother state run by an increasingly emboldened Crime Syndicate... this is the same set up that got JFK murdered in front of thousands of people in broad daylight, that allowed the Mafia to manipulate everyone in government, and allowed a homesexual cross dresser to run the Mob from the highest security position in the government... (I still don't understand how Americans just blithely accept this ???????????????????????????????)

btw was that a real interview? or one of those camera splice jobs? I thought those were always just satires created from film editing, but that did look real!? either way, I think that was brilliant satire... I think Oliver is brilliant, he has made this his
'schtick', Colbert and Stewart blazed the trail, but it still takes a 'special' personality to pull it off... He seems to be carrying the same torch they did, I don't think this is an accident, i.e. the one moving on, the other coming into the limelight... the top comedians probably have the best pulse on what is going on... better than most... and are exploiting an important and viable niche... good video...

too bad it didn't go viral in the month before June, now that would have been golden...

[Flash]

I think we are up to the point where the general public HAS TO feel the necessity to understand.

I also think that the fringe thinkers, like here on Avalon, have to start understanding that they have to make their knowledge palatable for the coach potatoes down to the gulley people. The coach potatoe probably won't move, but those right beside him will. Reaching Coach Potatoe and Gulley means reaching everyone.

Our mission may as well be go in the field and make public what we have learned, in an easy to understand and even funny fashiion.

Thanks to all who are contributing, to this thread, to this forum, to their local régions, to this planet.

AND MOSTLY WITHOUT INSTILLING FEAR - what a greater way than to have even gross humour.




I think Snowden is very aware of the state of America, he's an American himself... none-the-less, that's not the issue... (there is no law against being an idiot... spiritual and moral issues aside) his more fundamental principle of (right to privacy) is sound... people have lost the idea of acting on principle...

The best "awkward" moment (which I thought the whole thing outrageously funny, but then again, that's what Oliver does...) But the best part was when Snowden clearly stated people shouldn't have to stop sending their "dic pics" ...and the crowd cheered... they got it... (i.e. at least the audience watching the interview was sophisticated enough to get it, they understood the higher principle... and Snowden showed he's not a naive puritan moralist... it's much bigger than that...

People have to start waking up to the very REAL implications of living in a Big Brother state run by an increasingly emboldened Crime Syndicate... this is the same set up that got JFK murdered in front of thousands of people in broad daylight, that allowed the Mafia to manipulate everyone in government, and allowed a homesexual cross dresser to run the Mob from the highest security position in the government... (I still don't understand how Americans just blithely accept this ???????????????????????????????)

btw was that a real interview? or one of those camera splice jobs? I thought those were always just satires created from film editing, but that did look real!? either way, I think that was brilliant satire... I think Oliver is brilliant, he has made this his
'schtick', Colbert and Stewart blazed the trail, but it still takes a 'special' personality to pull it off... He seems to be carrying the same torch they did, I don't think this is an accident, i.e. the one moving on, the other coming into the limelight... the top comedians probably have the best pulse on what is going on... better than most... and are exploiting an important and viable niche... good video...

too bad it didn't go viral in the month before June, now that would have been golden...

[Flash]

bumping for those who have not listened to it due to holidays absence

[sirdipswitch]

Comedic fashion has long since been a preferred method of spilling serious issues onto the table, when those same issues would be banned entirely by any other means.
Yep!!!
My hat's off to these guys for getting this before the "masses"!:wizard:

[Lochinvar]

What is it exactly that Snowden has told us? And Shayler too for that matter? Anybody know?

[Flash]

What is it exactly that Snowden has told us? And Shayler too for that matter? Anybody know?

just listen to the video in post 1. It is spelled out loud and clear for Snowden, for the least schooled ones in the population. Anybody would understand, you just have to listen, and it is somewhat funny if you like gross humour.

I do not know about Shayler.

Ok, just found out David Shayler, who speaks about the Boston bombing and such false flags. Quite different from Snowden and not much in common.

Shayler = false flags analysis

Snowden =splling the NSA conspiracy and actual doing to watch and keep and take all internet, phone and other data worldwide from every citizen, including Americans, therefore braking laws, braking the USA constitution, and creating a big brother state which is dictatorial. This is the loss of our freedom.

Please, check Snowden, it is the ABC of state corruption and to explain what is being planned fo us.