Bee venom kills HIV

[Curiosity]

Could this be why they are killing the bees?

"Nano-particles carrying a toxin found in bee venom can destroy human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) while leaving the surrounding cells unharmed. The research was conducted by the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. The Nanoparticles carry melittin, which is the principal active component of bee venom. Melittin fuses with the HIV virus and destroys it’s protective envelope while molecular bumpers prevent the nanoparticles from harming the body’s normal cells. Bee venom is known to disrupt cellular walls and destroy tumour cells as well".

http://themindunleashed.org/2014/01/bee-venom-destroys-human-immunodeficiency-virus-hiv.html

[Lifebringer]

Yes, probably one of the reasons.

[Karpos]

Could this be why they are killing the bees?

Who is this "they" you speak of?

I did a search and this was a legit news story in 2013. I figure something would have come of it by now. Interesting non the less.

[Curiosity]

Could this be why they are killing the bees?

Who is this "they" you speak of?

I did a search and this was a legit news story in 2013. I figure something would have come of it by now. Interesting non the less.

Hey Karpos, How are ya?
I'm glad you asked,
They?
Well let's start with the most likely, the people that created HIV and AIDS.
Then the chain of people involved in pushing pesticides, aluminum,(geoengineering), cover ups, the people that kept free energy hid from us, creators of GMOs, creators of aluminum resistant seeds(component of GMO conspiracy, making robotic insects to replace the bees (also a component of GMO conspiracy). Lets not forget Big pharma, I mean the list goes on and on, pick one, or lump them all together in the pot of these insane criminals.

And no, nothing may ever come of this, just like everything else that gets squashed, smeared by disinformation campaigns, etc. or by murdering people, etc. Where do we stop?

So I think the question we should be asking is, "why hasn't something become of this yet"? The answer to that leads you to, who 'THEY' are.

[Karpos]

I hear you. THEY will say hiv came about naturally, not created. They will say pesticides are a good thing and that aluminum is natural to the environment; that geoengineering is necessary to our future. Free energy has not been discovered yet, they will say, or else it would be proven and utilized. GMO, omg, are actually good overall for the crops in view of world wide demand and production, and they are not more harmful than regular crop. Better, they'll say. All of these things are just fine and backed by SCIENCE and evidence, more so than the nonsense you'll here from conspiracy folk, they'll say. Robotic should play a part in pollinating crop, as with many more things, they'll say.

And most people will believe.

They'll say, stop fearing everything as if there is some evil world wide cabal is trying to decimate humanity; that's just delusions of persecution taken to a collective level.

Interesting non the less.

And the bees are doing just fine, they'll say... where 80% of pollination is done by 2% of the bee population, wild bees, not the farmed honey bees that are dying off

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/09/economist-explains-2

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/07/23/call-off-the-bee-pocalypse-u-s-honeybee-colonies-hit-a-20-year-high/

[Curiosity]

Interesting, none the less, what they is good is killing my organic crops. Bees have become scarce. I may need to seek alternative pollination methods. I may need Aluminum resistant seeds? I may need robot bees? What,s that going cost, and what's that going to do to my organic way of life?

What will be the cost to HIV patients?

[Karpos]

While some of THEM might suggest we stop worrying (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/why-we-can-stop-panicking-about-the-honeybees)about bees, I'd personally recommend we treat hiv aids patients with therapies that work, whatever that may bee, mainstream or alternative.

[KiwiElf]

Well without harming any bees,... 12 drops of hydrogen peroxide in a glass of water or juice 2 x per day (research Ozone Therapies from Ed McCabe), is also purported by Mr McCabe to do the trick re HIV/AIDS - and I do know one such person who cured himself with that treatment when the "expert Doctors" gave him 4-weeks to live. 20 years later, he is alive, well & HIV free.
(Ed was locked up for revealing this on trumped up tax charges by "THEM" :)- the article & treatment protocols appeared in the Australian NEXUS magazine back in the 90's, which I copied and passed on to the guy who saved his own life with it).

:focus:

[Curiosity]

Well without harming any bees,... 12 drops of hydrogen peroxide in a glass of water or juice 2 x per day (research Ozone Therapies from Ed McCabe), is also purported by Mr McCabe to do the trick re HIV/AIDS - and I do know one such person who cured himself with that treatment when the "expert Doctors" gave him 4-weeks to live. 20 years later, he is alive, well & HIV free.
(Ed was locked up for revealing this on trumped up tax charges by "THEM" :)- the article & treatment protocols appeared in the Australian NEXUS magazine back in the 90's, which I copied and passed on to the guy who saved his own life with it).

:focus:
Wow what an amazing story. Thanks for sharing it. Goes to show what THEY will do to suppress information. SO HIV, AIDS would be all but history if everyone knew 20 years ago to take 24 drops a day of hydrogen peroxide?>> Humm

[KiwiElf]

Yup :) There's a little bit more to it than that; healthy diet, no drugs or tobacco, or alcohol. It (apparently) fixed quite a bit more than that too. There's another thread running on Avalon atm. Good ol' Baking Soda & apple cider vinegar in various amounts - better than most pills you'll ever get from "Pharma companies" ;)

Cancers (including AIDS/HIV) can't survive in an oxygen-rich environment (aka "Ozone or Oxygen therapy")

[Curiosity]

While some of THEM might suggest we stop worrying (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/why-we-can-stop-panicking-about-the-honeybees)about bees, I'd personally recommend we treat hiv aids patients with therapies that work, whatever that may bee, mainstream or alternative.

If bee venom kills HIV, this is a cure, not a mainstream or alternative therapy.
This is ONE good reason, since only SOME of 'THEM' might suggest to stop worrying about bees, to be concerned with the problem. The problem doesn't stop at the die-off, it's now the ones that can't navigate due to Aluminum poisoning. This is increasing.

However I would like to learn more about this cure. What happened to it? Is there any follow up? Time for some research.

I'll leave with question, "if they suggest that we stop worrying about the bees, why are they so bent on creating robot pollinators"?

[Karpos]

Yea, I'd be interested in following up on the original story however I think it was dead in the water because nothing has come of it. You would think if bee venom could cure AIDS and HIV that would be a huge story and easily reproducible cure. I think this is a non-story.

[Curiosity]

I hear you. THEY will say hiv came about naturally, not created. They will say pesticides are a good thing and that aluminum is natural to the environment; that geoengineering is necessary to our future. Free energy has not been discovered yet, they will say, or else it would be proven and utilized. GMO, omg, are actually good overall for the crops in view of world wide demand and production, and they are not more harmful than regular crop. Better, they'll say. All of these things are just fine and backed by SCIENCE and evidence, more so than the nonsense you'll here from conspiracy folk, they'll say. Robotic should play a part in pollinating crop, as with many more things, they'll say.

And most people will believe.

They'll say, stop fearing everything as if there is some evil world wide cabal is trying to decimate humanity; that's just delusions of persecution taken to a collective level.

Interesting non the less.

And the bees are doing just fine, they'll say... where 80% of pollination is done by 2% of the bee population, wild bees, not the farmed honey bees that are dying off

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/09/economist-explains-2

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/07/23/call-off-the-bee-pocalypse-u-s-honeybee-colonies-hit-a-20-year-high/

While they will say...... disinformation..... The truth is, a honey bee is a honey bee is a honey bee. Wild or farmed they all are responsible for pollinating our agricultural industry.
Some depend on farmed bees.
People like me in the middle of nowhere probably see no farmed bees. We depend on wild bees. In the last 5 years I've watched a steady decline in bees. The year before last there where almost none, and the ones that finally showed up stayed for only a short time. This year was a little better.

So don't let anyone kid you, it's still a serious problem. Like I said next year I will be looking into alternative pollinating procedures if the bees don't show up.
Unfortunately robot bees are years out if not decades.

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/kelly-lawyer/robot-bees-invented-provide-pollination-honeybees-disappear

[KiwiElf]

Yea, I'd be interested in following up on the original story however I think it was dead in the water because nothing has come of it. You would think if bee venom could cure AIDS and HIV that would be a huge story and easily reproducible cure. I think this is a non-story.

I realise you're referring to the bee venom treatment, Karpos. With regard to my previous post and the hydrogen peroxide treatment, I regret that I can't put my hands on it immediately having recently moved house ;) - the NEXUS magazine in question is buried amongst many boxes. :) At this point in time I can only tell you it would have been somewhere between the mid and late 1990's. The internet has relatively sanitised the story so it probably won't be much help in verifying what I said either. The magazine itself does sell a DVD of all their past issues.

https://www.nexusmagazine.com/

[Daozen]

Ozone and Iodine will do just fine as well. "Ozone and the Politics of medicine" is supposedly based on this. It's a hard to find film.

[Karpos]

<3'd nexus thanks

[Curiosity]

I haven't found anything more on the venom curing HIV yet but I found this to be interesting.

Last year
Obama signed a memorandum establishing the first-ever federal pollinator strategy.

Allocating $8mil in incentives to farmers and ranchers in five states who establish new habitats for honeybees.

So this is a serious problem and you don't hear this stuff on mainstream media.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/06/23/do-bees-freak-you-out-well-president-obama-wants-to-keep-them-around/

[KiwiElf]

There has been lot of talk going around over the last few years that cell phone towers may be the cause (of Bee depopulation). I haven't really researched that a lot but it could be a combination of things (GE crops included), and that Monsanto were going to create a whole new breed of GE Bees for their GE modified crops!
Geesuz... where does it stop?

[Curiosity]

There has been lot of talk going around over the last few years that cell phone towers may be the cause (of Bee depopulation). I haven't really researched that a lot but it could be a combination of things (GE crops included), and that Monsanto were going to create a whole new breed of GE Bees for their GE modified crops!
Geesuz... where does it stop?

Monsanto has a patent on aluminum resistant seeds, so I suppose the next step is aluminum resistant bees and butterflies so they can continue to spray aluminum in the air.

I think I'll start working on an aluminum resistant drug for humans, I'll be rich, or they'll kill me lol.

I don't know about the cell tower thing but there are articles coming out now about aluminum being found in bees and thought to cause navigation problems. So they're not dying, they just cant find there way home or work.
I bet the wife,(queen) isn't happy about that LOL.

Anyway, it seems that the bee venom research articles were circulated March April and May of 2013, then again about 11 months ago. So far that's all I can come up with and as far as I can tell the doctors and researchers are still alive along with the research.

http://themindunleashed.org/2014/01/bee-venom-destroys-human-immunodeficiency-virus-hiv.html

[Richard S.]

Does it even exist...

Big fan of Dr. Luc Montagnier, however my fanaticism broke after viewing some information about his methods...

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Could this be why they are killing the bees?

"Nano-particles carrying a toxin found in bee venom can destroy human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) while leaving the surrounding cells unharmed. The research was conducted by the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. The Nanoparticles carry melittin, which is the principal active component of bee venom. Melittin fuses with the HIV virus and destroys it’s protective envelope while molecular bumpers prevent the nanoparticles from harming the body’s normal cells. Bee venom is known to disrupt cellular walls and destroy tumour cells as well".

http://themindunleashed.org/2014/01/bee-venom-destroys-human-immunodeficiency-virus-hiv.html

[william r sanford72]

had this vid on my watch later list for a couple years...bee venom is a very old medicine..ancient.honey and bees have been used for thousands of years and the list of benefits are great.the bees and other insect/pollinators are dying off because of many many reasons and the reasons almost always lead back to man and our actions past and current.

VNPQecZ8SBI


heres the link to the bee thread on Avalon...mucho info on bees.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62676-Calling-all-light-warriors-the-Bees-need-you-/page46

[Curiosity]

had this vid on my watch later list for a couple years...bee venom is a very old medicine..ancient.honey and bees have been used for thousands of years and the list of benefits are great.the bees and other insect/pollinators are dying off because of many many reasons and the reasons almost always lead back to man and our actions past and current.

VNPQecZ8SBI




heres the link to the bee thread on Avalon...mucho info on bees.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62676-Calling-all-light-warriors-the-Bees-need-you-/page46

How interesting, thanks for sharing.

[conk]

Well without harming any bees,... 12 drops of hydrogen peroxide in a glass of water or juice 2 x per day (research Ozone Therapies from Ed McCabe), is also purported by Mr McCabe to do the trick re HIV/AIDS - and I do know one such person who cured himself with that treatment when the "expert Doctors" gave him 4-weeks to live. 20 years later, he is alive, well & HIV free.
(Ed was locked up for revealing this on trumped up tax charges by "THEM" :)- the article & treatment protocols appeared in the Australian NEXUS magazine back in the 90's, which I copied and passed on to the guy who saved his own life with it).

:focus:


Wow what an amazing story. Thanks for sharing it. Goes to show what THEY will do to suppress information. SO HIV, AIDS would be all but history if everyone knew 20 years ago to take 24 drops a day of hydrogen peroxide?>> Humm

Find the book The One Minute Cure. Touted as a cure for most all ailments, it is a protocol of daily doses of hydrogen peroxide. First, obtain 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide, then dilute to a usable 3% by diluting the 35% with 11 parts super clean water and one part 35% HP. Day one: Take one drop of the mixture. Day two: 2 drops. Day three: 3 drops. Increase the number of drops daily until you reach 24 drops. Drink on an empty stomach. The stronger doses will be hard to tolerate for some. The aroma alone (chlorine like) isn't pleasant and it often makes one nauseated. Large, empty capsules can be used by placing the drops into the capsules. It may take several caps for the higher dosages. This will minimize the nasty effects, as the HP is released more slowing into the empty stomach.

After reaching the maximum drops, 24, and staying on that for a few days, the number can be reduced to 10-15 for maintenance. The book is well written and the research is there and cited. It's just a simple means of oxygenating the body. Pathogens abhor oxygen.

If you can do this in concert with an ozone program, disease stands little chance of lingering in your body. We're being seriously cheated out of several extremely effective and inexpensive remedies for most all diseases. Ozone, HP, and IV blood irradiation cure most anything! And never forget the potential for hydrogen. Our pH levels are extremely important. Only optimized pH levels allow the proper electrical processes to take place in the body. Another great book, Healing Is Voltage.

Back to bees: Bee stings have helped many arthritis suffers. Once knew a little old lady herbalist that stung herself daily, citing the great relief from pain they provide.