Earth's spirit has ascended to 5D.....We follow shortly......Dark forces get their due....We won the war on sept.1.

[promezeus]

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[lucidity]

This is a very low-grade troll attempt.

There is no evidence in those links that the earth
has ascended to a 5D reality.

This thread is *not* as advertised.

How easily can the readership here be scammed ?

Dear readers, do you *want* to believe ?

Will you believe anything that someone tells you on this subject ?

Is there anything here to support the contention that the Earth
has transitioned to a 5D reality?

be happy

lucidity

[6pounder]

Actually Simon parkes just did a radio show today and I think that's something he would mention... (He didn't)

[promezeus]

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[6pounder]

Well I guess we need much more details about all of this since its very cloudy in matter of the whole story. This q&a doesn't give much details about the big picture.

[lucidity]

The Mad Hatter is a quite intelligent, knowledgeable, and credible individual who owns the thread linked website and wrote the headline article in this recent well received thread :

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87884-Self-reflection-The-invasion-of-humans-by-the-Mad-Hatter

Didn't you start this thread promezeus ?

[Alpha141]

Have a listen to this from 1h45min mark:

swznwtvb1BQ

I operate remote and on sacred sites with her. All of the indigenous ancestors slaughtered on sacred sites are being cleared to this new 'fabric' to increase the frequency here. Ancestral Earth Karma clearance of mass sacrifice on very significant Earth Layline Grid locations etc. So contemplate this with what ever discernment you wish. Alot has been happening this last couple of years. Hence, the need to Escalate the Trauma in our reality (increased fear, propaganda, war etc) as the control via such methods isn't holding our density here in 3D as low now. Hence real increases in manifestation and synchronicity, randomness etc...Enjoy

[Jayren]

Seems to me the only thing I know is that the sun is black, I sun gaze alot and if you stare at it you can see it moving in a circular motion it is black and couple be a portal. And some light beings do not need ships to fly, others use them because they are not as evolved yet or because of the 3D material. I have heard stories about people going to 5D earth regular accounts of spiritual people seeing a better earth in there dreams. It exist. We exist don't we? We can consciously choose to go to such places, maybe you didn't choose to go there before you got here. No doubt we are creating a better earth here. We are waking up.

[apokalypse]

this crap again?

[Lifebringer]

Yeah, but you got to look any wy to discern it, right? No emotion or judgement, just view the bs, that's me, and ask someone who may know or bring it here. It's been brought here. If it's not truth, it will not go far. I too have to discipline my emotion when bs presents itself front and center and or do the said above things.
Either way, it's got to be done, even if someone's intent is to deceive, it tells more about the person, than the video at times when it's repetative fraud. One never knows until you see, hear it.

[thunder24]

even if we were in 5d and you don't realize it...what does it matter...? how is it applicable to your life? or lets say you have a map in front of you, and it says your next stop is 5d...how does it help you, if you've never been, you still wouldn't kknow how to navigate the waters if its a whole new paradigm... where do these ideas come from that earth and humanity are going to this new vibration?

[Kryztian]

I usually like to see evidenced based, researched and documented information that gets rigorously questioned, analyzed and reviewed by Avalonians, but today, I need some good news so just beam me up to 5D reality and make it quick!

[Chester]

Hi, I could share with you a story of how I came to consider the possibility that my father played some sort of operational role in the assassination of a high profile individual several dozen years ago. I have a good deal of circumstantial evidence that suggest this to have been possible. I shared this information with an author who cracked the case (in his opinion at least) and he said that it is overwhelmingly likely my father did indeed play some sort of role.

Years later after the event my father died from suicide (1979). It was only after his death that I started to put the picture together. Yet then came some uncanny synchronicities which I originally interpreted to be confirmations of my suspicions.

And then one day, I experienced an event in this 3D 5 sense reality which I considered to possibly be a signal from at least one living human being that my theory and conclusions as well as how I came to terms with it all were correct and appreciated. I happen to have a friend who is quite close to the folks who may have been involved in both the event and this "signal" and was told that "it may very well have been."

And then one year later I experienced another insane synchronicity which was fully provable as far as the occurrence of the event and whereby if anyone had been privy to my personal story with my father and the potential "other(s)" involved would agree that this final experience would not likely have been a consciously created event meant to be a further signal to me... that it could only come directly from "woo-woo" land.

So what is my point - the point is this...

Is it possible that uncanny synchronicities are signals from something we might call "God" or Source or The Universe or find the term that best suits you which we interpret in ways that support this paradigm?

Or...

Is it possible that the who and what we are are simply capable of creating these validations because we are creator beings even though there may be absolutely nothing to what we are attempting to validate?

I do not propose to be able to answer this question but I can now say that I no longer hold as "true" my theories about my father. I see that it is possible that they might be true... or at least some of them, but I have accepted that I cannot know unless a certain individual from a group of individuals provided me with irrefutable proof he was. The odds of that happening are all but zero.

So then... if it is possible we have collectively created the synchronicities we are now using to validate something we might (unknowingly) collectively desire from the depths of our subconscious... the same place where some of us suspect from which the reality we experience originates...

...then isn't it possible we might finally begin to create a reality that is void of things such as Monsanto, Fema camps, chem trails, psychopath rulers of every major component of the structure of our world today - religion, government, military, intelligence agencies, corporations, media (news), media (entertainment), destruction of the environment, constant wars, unnecessary famine, unnecessary living conditions for the masses and I haven't even touched the other worldly bad guys and bad scenarios?

If so, then why haven't we? If we have passed through this portal of change, then why do all that I have listed above (and more) march on unimpeded in the direction they clearly appear to be moving?

Just thoughts...

[Clear Light]

even if we were in 5d and you don't realize it...what does it matter...? how is it applicable to your life? or lets say you have a map in front of you, and it says your next stop is 5d...how does it help you, if you've never been, you still wouldn't kknow how to navigate the waters if its a whole new paradigm... where do these ideas come from that earth and humanity are going to this new vibration?

Ah, I have a hunch the seeds for this idea of so-called "Planetary Ascension" originally came from the Hindu concept Yuga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga) ... the idea is 'we' are apparently at the end of the so-called Kali Yuga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga) and moving into the prophesied "Golden Age (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga#10.2C000_year_.22Golden_Age.22)".

Theosophists have their own version of Yuga which can be read about here : The Seven Yugas (http://blavatskytheosophy.com/the-seven-yugas/)

Perhaps one could also find an explanation in the Buddhist idea of the various "Realms of existence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%E1%B9%83s%C4%81ra_%28Buddhism%29#Realms_of_existence)" [1] which comprise Samsaric life !

So are any of them Real or is it just a case for finding some sort of textural justification for what seems to be happening "out there" in the World ? [A rhetorical question]


__________________________________________

[1] In the interests of transparency, and as a result of meditative experience, I vote this one seems like the "Real Deal" :)

[thunder24]

even if we were in 5d and you don't realize it...what does it matter...? how is it applicable to your life? or lets say you have a map in front of you, and it says your next stop is 5d...how does it help you, if you've never been, you still wouldn't kknow how to navigate the waters if its a whole new paradigm... where do these ideas come from that earth and humanity are going to this new vibration?

Ah, I have a hunch the seeds for this idea of so-called "Planetary Ascension" originally came from the Hindu concept Yuga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga) ... the idea is 'we' are apparently at the end of the so-called Kali Yuga (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga) and moving into the prophesied "Golden Age (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga#10.2C000_year_.22Golden_Age.22)".

Theosophists have their own version of Yuga which can be read about here : The Seven Yugas (http://blavatskytheosophy.com/the-seven-yugas/)

Perhaps one could also find an explanation in the Buddhist idea of the various "Realms of existence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa%E1%B9%83s%C4%81ra_%28Buddhism%29#Realms_of_existence)" which comprise Samsaric life !

So are any of them Real or is it just a case for finding some sort of textural justification for what seems to be happening "out there" in the World ? [A rhetorical question]

kudos... u r correct in my estimation...

has there been a golden age before? was it a 5d experience or 3d experience...? I ask for consideration not truly myself looking for answers...

[promezeus]

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[thunder24]

I think this info is SO interesting.

My introduction was the prior linked thread with the article by Hatter a few days ago.

Call me crazy, but this has electricity, and Hatter is no fool nor are the people commenting on his website.

But what's also interesting to me and so telling, is that no one posting here thus far has indicated they have even bothered to read the very material which birthed this thread. :ROFL:

Most people here are really no different from the mainstream. They want media entertainment like a sci fi movie. There are much better threads for that.

If you want to be spoon fed, or you want it approved by the fda, or even bill ryan, then happy trails elsewhere. :happy dog:

how did you not get this being sci fi based on the first post you made from the links? did you read the second post in this thread? we must not be looking at the same material...

and how is saying this is so interesting or has electricity add any real personal view or thoughts you have on the material you posted?

[Finefeather]

Anything from the crazy world of Prime Commander Tanaath of The Silver Legion... or Drake... or Mad Hatter... can safely be taken as a prime example of the illusion some of us live in...(and the fiction they write)

Can anyone just tell us what 5D is? because if it is 2 levels higher than the physical '3D' then that would be equivalent to the astral/emotional world... '4D' being the etheric... and if you don't want to count the etheric... then the next world after the astral is the Mental world... so lets call this '5D'.

So if we use the higher one for the sake of argument then it is being said that the spirit of the earth has ascended to the mental world...

The Spirit of the earth... more correctly the monad of the earth... or the real Self of the earth... has gone through the human evolutionary stage trillions of years ago and would by now need to be in the Solar realm of consciousness... which... if we try to use the same hap hazard system would be somewhere around '9D' or '10D'... in order for it to be incarnating or manifesting as a planet.

The spirit... more correctly the real Self... of All humans has been in the '5D' (Mental world consciousness) for millions of years... although subjectively... in fact ever since we became humans...

You cannot be a human if you are not in the '5D' (Mental world consciousness).

Of course the earth as a physical manifestation can never ascend to a higher level because then it won't be the earth anymore... earth is the ONLY planet in our solar system which has organic life... the others have either etheric life and/or what is known as aggregate molecular life... as it's lowest level.

The earth also has Etheric Beings living in it... as well as Emotional(Astral) World Beings... as well as Mental World Beings... as well as Causal World Beings and even higher...

Just because you cannot see them does not mean they do not exist.

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now.

[Flash]

Very good point Thunder. What or how does it matter? In fact the only thing that matters is are we evolving past the stupidity of killing each other and destroying the planet? From there, are we evolving enough to learn compassion, empathy? And from thix next stage can we continue in order to learn to love? And to learn to think in a way that promotes evolution and services to others? Yes this would mean having evolved past any actual conception of 5 D, I bet.



even if we were in 5d and you don't realize it...what does it matter...? how is it applicable to your life? or lets say you have a map in front of you, and it says your next stop is 5d...how does it help you, if you've never been, you still wouldn't kknow how to navigate the waters if its a whole new paradigm... where do these ideas come from that earth and humanity are going to this new vibration?

[lucidity]

Have a listen to this from 1h45min mark:

swznwtvb1BQ

I operate remote and on sacred sites with her. All of the indigenous ancestors slaughtered on sacred sites are being cleared to this new 'fabric' to increase the frequency here. Ancestral Earth Karma clearance of mass sacrifice on very significant Earth Layline Grid locations etc. So contemplate this with what ever discernment you wish. Alot has been happening this last couple of years. Hence, the need to Escalate the Trauma in our reality (increased fear, propaganda, war etc) as the control via such methods isn't holding our density here in 3D as low now. Hence real increases in manifestation and synchronicity, randomness etc...Enjoy

There is nothing in this youtube video to prove a 5D reality is here or is imminent.
The youtube video is actually an audio recording of a woman claiming to be a 'healer',
she talks about being at a party and giving 'healings' to some unspecified people.
She then takes an epsom salt bath and claims some 'experience' where she went into
the light. She also claims that the 'ascension' occurred on 5th July 2013.

This material is *not* evidence for the Earth moving to some 5D reality.
This is yet more trolling.

be happy

lucidity

[Clear Light]

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now

oh, I presume you're referring to Hylozoic Esoteric material ? Out of curiosity does it have anything to say about this particular "Epoch" ?

[Finefeather]

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now

oh, I presume you're referring to Hylozoic Esoteric material ? Out of curiosity does it have anything to say about this particular "Epoch" ?
Why don't you get off your you know what and do some work for a change... rather than expect everything for nothing... no one is preventing you from finding out yourself... who knows you might even learn something. :)

[PurpleLama]

Oops, wrong thread

[Clear Light]

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now

oh, I presume you're referring to Hylozoic Esoteric material ? Out of curiosity does it have anything to say about this particular "Epoch" ?
Why don't you get off your you know what and do some work for a change... rather than expect everything for nothing... no one is preventing you from finding out yourself... who knows you might even learn something. :)


:doh: <sigh> :ohwell:

[Chester]

I think this info is SO interesting.

My introduction was the prior linked thread with the article by Hatter a few days ago.

Call me crazy, but this has electricity, and Hatter is no fool nor are the people commenting on his website.

But what's also interesting to me and so telling, is that no one posting here thus far has indicated they have even bothered to read the very material which birthed this thread. :ROFL:

Most people here are really no different from the mainstream. They want media entertainment like a sci fi movie. There are much better threads for that.

If you want to be spoon fed, or you want it approved by the fda, or even bill ryan, then happy trails elsewhere. :happy dog:

Hi, I read a good bit (there was a lot to read) and my post above was stimulated by the usage of synchronicity as what I took to be "validation." I shared a tiny bit of my own story which has me wondering if we actually create these reality experiences as well as the synchronicities we sometimes use to validate our experiences as if they are directed by some external, all powerful third party.

Yet hey... They may be!

Yet also, we might create not only the experience but also the validations in the form of synchronicity.

Personally, the 3d to 5d stuff is a paradigm which I see as simply one of many. But just because I see it this way does not mean that this isn't the one actual true and God given paradigm which might be true for all... I truly don't know and I surely wouldn't push any of that on another.

If 5d is supposed to be a collective experience that clearly transcends in every good way the collective experience we have here now, I would imagine that we would somehow see significant, rapid positive differences. Until I do, I personally won't be telling others we have entered 5d.

[Catsquotl]

Aren't we multi dimensional beings?

Doesn't that fact alone imply we have always existed in 5d as well as in 3d?

confused..

With Love
Eelco

[Finefeather]

Aren't we multi dimensional beings?

Doesn't that fact alone imply we have always existed in 5d as well as in 3d?

confused..

With Love
Eelco
The only problem is the terminology which different people use and more than often this is the most confusing thing.

The word 'dimension' has so many meanings that it has become difficult to work out exactly what someone is actually referring to when they say 5D.

There are people who even think that time is the 4th dimension... so I would not know what they think 5D is.

The 4th dimension is actually plasma or the etheric... but this dimension is still within the bounds of the physical world.

The Cosmos has many worlds like the physical world or the Astral world etc... and each of these worlds has many dimensions.

[Karpos]

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now

oh, I presume you're referring to Hylozoic Esoteric material ? Out of curiosity does it have anything to say about this particular "Epoch" ?

I've been reading this stuff lately, was recently reading this chapter titled OUR EPOCH

http://www.laurency.com/L3e/L3e18.pdf

I don't recommend jumping around too much with this material if it interested you, but this chapter speaks easy where some of the other stuff requires familiarity with the number system laid out in the main works. Having a little familiarity with Theosophy helps and makes hylozoics really stand out. It's builds off from all the main strains of Theosophy.

[Finefeather]

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now

oh, I presume you're referring to Hylozoic Esoteric material ? Out of curiosity does it have anything to say about this particular "Epoch" ?

I've been reading this stuff lately, was recently reading this chapter titled OUR EPOCH

http://www.laurency.com/L3e/L3e18.pdf
It's not stuff... and good for you... you'll soon be cured of all your madness :)

[Karpos]

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now

oh, I presume you're referring to Hylozoic Esoteric material ? Out of curiosity does it have anything to say about this particular "Epoch" ?

I've been reading this stuff lately, was recently reading this chapter titled OUR EPOCH

http://www.laurency.com/L3e/L3e18.pdf
It's not stuff... and good for you... you'll soon be cured of all your madness :)

Yea I hope so! I added a bit to my post, but I'm finding it fascinating reading. Never knew Theosophy lived beyond D.K./ Bailey

[Alpha141]

Aren't we multi dimensional beings?

Doesn't that fact alone imply we have always existed in 5d as well as in 3d?

confused..

With Love
Eelco

Yes, we are. But it isn't you that isn't. It is this reality in which we all find ourselves that has the limit aspect enforced upon it in order to limit the expression of who we are. Via EMF, low nutrition in our food, medications, belief systems, propaganda etc etc. It is our bodies that therefore offer our potential or limited perceptions.

rG4DlLQuiwg

[Flash]

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now

oh, I presume you're referring to Hylozoic Esoteric material ? Out of curiosity does it have anything to say about this particular "Epoch" ?

I've been reading this stuff lately, was recently reading this chapter titled OUR EPOCH

http://www.laurency.com/L3e/L3e18.pdf
It's not stuff... and good for you... you'll soon be cured of all your madness :)

Yea I hope so! I added a bit to my post, but I'm finding it fascinating reading. Never knew Theosophy lived beyond D.K./ Bailey

Hilozoic (which Laurency.com presents) lived long before Theosophy, it is the other way around Karpos. It dates way way back. Pythagoras and before.

[Alpha141]

Have a listen to this from 1h45min mark:

swznwtvb1BQ

I operate remote and on sacred sites with her. All of the indigenous ancestors slaughtered on sacred sites are being cleared to this new 'fabric' to increase the frequency here. Ancestral Earth Karma clearance of mass sacrifice on very significant Earth Layline Grid locations etc. So contemplate this with what ever discernment you wish. Alot has been happening this last couple of years. Hence, the need to Escalate the Trauma in our reality (increased fear, propaganda, war etc) as the control via such methods isn't holding our density here in 3D as low now. Hence real increases in manifestation and synchronicity, randomness etc...Enjoy

There is nothing in this youtube video to prove a 5D reality is here or is imminent.
The youtube video is actually an audio recording of a woman claiming to be a 'healer',
she talks about being at a party and giving 'healings' to some unspecified people.
She then takes an epsom salt bath and claims some 'experience' where she went into
the light. She also claims that the 'ascension' occurred on 5th July 2013.

This material is *not* evidence for the Earth moving to some 5D reality.
This is yet more trolling.

be happy

lucidity

No problem with any perspective. All it is is an offering to contemplate, dismiss, accept or not even care about. See it as wrong or naught if it is what you feel. All cool. Your linguistics and words used to me though are some i would never use to another in a public anonymous space but don't take that as being offended from my side. Just because it may not be perceptible doesn't mean it isn't possible or actually occurring. The slither of what we can perceive in the EM spectrum should be enough to consider how much more can i gain a perception to witness. It is important suggestion to have a parachute mind as Jordan Maxwell calls it, it works best opened up to all things now and going forth. Being a disbeliever to possibilities contribute to the reality how it is in a co-creative way and escalation of situations to deal with in our own lives may result.

Think of this new 5D as a new fabric overplayed. If you have watched the first Lord of the Rings trilogy where the Elves were looking to leave the reality on their ship to another place. It is similar. It is a good metaphor. A fabric where the corrupting aspect in this reality has no access. It is being filtered very securely. I know Nickie really well and she has a fair portion of her day in a meditative state guarding it as many races have done penetration tests to access it over the time only to be eliminated from the universe. Their frequency will not allow them there. I offer this by my knowing her as an extra layer to your discernment of me here to as i could have a vested interest also. Vested interests are rife at present so hopefully putting it on a plate too gives a bit of transparency. A decent conversation of this with her would be fascinating for anyone looking for a great topic. I hosted here and Max Steel back in Sept and it is on my Youtube channel also. Part of the reason i am on this forum as i am a galactic linker and have had many of the 178 (number off the top of my head) women find me to link up to her in this 3D reality via a 1 degree of separation. Randomness is afforded via such places. The divine feminine calling in many women at the moment is super strong. It is a great ally to humanity that aspect revealing itself now. There are going to be a great deal of people seemingly leave out of the blue in random deaths. They may be going on to this other realm with a purpose or mission and this present reality will be a sort of cliff where the corruption aspect will be pushed off (galactic recycling -I have been involved in some balance with this respect so i speak from a critical ingredient - 'Experience').

The indigenous ancestors are being afforded a space to have a harmonic existence. Not being locked into the Earth at the power centres to limit this reality to what it is. Hence the escalation of war in the middle east to lock down the awakening power centres (lay lines and womb chakras). This is way too long already. Take it as you will. Perhaps a huge unknown that's all. Many here have suggested this doesn't matter. Staying centered and focused on your own development is more important anyway imho. Making you as strong as you can be for myself is number 1.

Best of luck all. I won't post anymore on this threat. I enjoy many of your thoughts even those who have the courage to disagree with anything i offer.

Cheers

[ulli]

Trying to reconcile here:
The term Ascension to me basically means growth.
As a plant grows, it ascends, upwards, towards the sky, or sunlight.
Yet it's root system is connected with the roots of neighboring plants, underground, or even above ground, in the case of orchids.

Hence there are horizontal processes as well as vertical ones.

To me this reconciliation is the main task individuals as well as the collective have before them.

The current age is about the recognition that all humanity, regardless of ethnic origin, or gender, are one, are connected.
The connection along the time line is that of generations succeeding one another, and the other connection is that of telepathy, or the hundreths monkey effect.

This connection means letting go of prejudices, yet uphold a certain respect for one's ethnic or national origins.

It's hard to reconcile two apparent opposites, but it is possible.

The more a person can devote their time and energy towards the needs of humanity as a whole, in the current age, the more they can then ascend after death into the higher dimensions, or realms of heavenly hierarchy.

[Karpos]

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now

oh, I presume you're referring to Hylozoic Esoteric material ? Out of curiosity does it have anything to say about this particular "Epoch" ?

I've been reading this stuff lately, was recently reading this chapter titled OUR EPOCH

http://www.laurency.com/L3e/L3e18.pdf
It's not stuff... and good for you... you'll soon be cured of all your madness :)

Yea I hope so! I added a bit to my post, but I'm finding it fascinating reading. Never knew Theosophy lived beyond D.K./ Bailey

Hilozoic (which Laurency.com presents) lived long before Theosophy, it is the other way around Karpos. It dates way way back. Pythagoras and before.

Well if it's the Knowledge Of Reality, I'd say so. Ageless.

Theosophy, as I understand it, was the unveiling of a limited amount of this knowledge starting with Blavatsky, but it is literally God Wisdom which transcends concepts and terms.

I used to read a lot of Theosophy works bUT I'm more skeptical lately (is a phase I think) and wonder if Blavatsky and others were a little or a lot crazy ... crazy in good way.

Regarding http://www.laurency.com/L3e/L3e18.pdf I finished reading it today. Great read for perspective on how changing epochs might come about ... slowly with hard work, toward a better world.

[Finefeather]

Having a little familiarity with Theosophy helps and makes hylozoics really stand out. It's builds off from all the main strains of Theosophy.
You will be surprises when you realise just how much Hylozoics is not the same as Theosophy or Alice Bailey... and the similarity with Theosophy is only so because Theosophy was one of the early attempts to bring reality to the world... but in reality it failed in a number of ways... and for a number of reasons... the same goes for Alice Bailey, Blavatsky etc... but there is still a lot to gain from these systems IF you know what you are looking for and you are able to interpret the esoterics.

Hylozoics has always existed... in some form... with some name... because absolute truth and reality does not change...
This teaching is the very thing that has been suppressed for 1000s of years by religions and philosophies to control the masses... and as you can see it has worked.

Some may wonder why those with such knowledge and presumable power allow those to control the masses...the reason should be obvious... All higher Beings who have passed through this human kingdom obey the laws of life... and one of them is that humans have a right to decide and choose their own path... even if it leads to destruction... as it has on a number of previous occasions... in Lemuria and Atlantis.

It is however not always realized by younger 'souls'/monads that those who are doing the most harm are not the younger ones but the older ones who are locked into their own self serving dogma... these are the dark forces in action... and don't ever underestimate their intelligence or their cruelty.

You can read some history here...
http://www.laurency.com/L2e/kl2_1.pdf

[Clear Light]

There is however a lot more to this which is just too much for now

oh, I presume you're referring to Hylozoic Esoteric material ? Out of curiosity does it have anything to say about this particular "Epoch" ?

I've been reading this stuff lately, was recently reading this chapter titled OUR EPOCH

http://www.laurency.com/L3e/L3e18.pdf

I don't recommend jumping around too much with this material if it interested you, but this chapter speaks easy where some of the other stuff requires familiarity with the number system laid out in the main works. Having a little familiarity with Theosophy helps and makes hylozoics really stand out. It's builds off from all the main strains of Theosophy.

Ah, thank you very much Karpos ... I see it refers to the theme of changing Zodiacal Epochs (i.e. from Piscean to Aquarian) as a "driving influence" behind the scenes (so-to-speak) ...

[bettye198]

Hylozoic simply means that all matter has life. A rock, a leaf, anything that sustains itself over the course of time I would think is hylozoic. The material seems a bit old world to me the way it presents, reminds of me of my earlier readings 40 yrs ago in Theosophy. Is this channeled text? I probably would not follow this course as it was part ( maybe a branch?) of a controlled movement during the Theosophy days. I prefer to study the Ashayana Freedom Teachings/Workshop material that brings about a much more articulate definition of how the Universe affects this world.

[promezeus]

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[Carmody]

It does to matter what any of these threads or entire forums say, no matter what it is they say:

It's all on you. Whether you are aware of it or not, it is individually ----on you.

No free rides. You get back what you put out, you engage and involve with the universe and that is what you get in reflection and integration. Simple.

No free rides .....and it's all on you.

[Finefeather]

It does to matter what any of these threads or entire forums say, no matter what it is they say:

It's all on you. Whether you are aware of it or not, it is individually ----on you.

No free rides. You get back what you put out, you engage and involve with the universe and that is what you get in reflection and integration. Simple.

No free rides .....and it's all on you.

==mod edit== Promezus's comment deleted.

It really is of no interest to me what your opinion is of other members...rather... your inability to recognize truth.

Every single word...every single line in Carmody's post is about as real as the veil of ignorance over your head... try reading it again without the hatred in your heart and you may even learn something.

Take care

[ulli]

It does to matter what any of these threads or entire forums say, no matter what it is they say:

It's all on you. Whether you are aware of it or not, it is individually ----on you.

No free rides. You get back what you put out, you engage and involve with the universe and that is what you get in reflection and integration. Simple.

No free rides .....and it's all on you.

The moment one recognizes that this is how it all works something incredible happens.

Unfortunately words cannot describe it.

But simply mentioning this truth will get you in trouble, as the projectors out there become irritated and then reveal themselves for who they are, and at which part of their journey.
The closer to a breakthrough the more their inner monkey will rattle at the bars.

However, IF they can at these times face that whatever label they are pinning on someone else is actually their own last hurdle before entering the great cosmos they will be forever thankful that Avalon provided them with this opportunity.