What's your perspective on freemasons?

[voices of silence]

Just wondering because I was contacted by the freemansons. A member asked that exact same question. That was also asked to me in a dream. I was never initiated as a member but this group of freemanson considers me "a brother".

[6pounder]

Well this is interesting. I know that the free Masons are a branch in the pyramid structure of the Illuminati... I might be wrong but that's what I know. I don't know about their own agenda tho...

[mojo]

Hopefully someone will add to our understanding. Wish I could remember where I read /heard this but someone more knowledgeable mentioned that there is a huge difference after 32 degrees. The 33rd degree is when all the evil component is brought out.

[GMB1961]

In all my years of having anything to do with the freemasons, I found them to be really nice guys. They never talked about religion or politics and they raised heaps of money for less fortunate people than themselves and they never pushed their agenda on me and the history they imparted to a point with me was very interesting. My Uncle was in Grand Lodge and he was in there for 40+ years. I trusted him and loved him. I am not aware of any evil within the lodge or its members as it has never shown itself to me.

GMB1961

[Flowerpunkchip]

In all my years of having anything to do with the freemasons, I found them to be really nice guys. They never talked about religion or politics and they raised heaps of money for less fortunate people than themselves and they never pushed their agenda on me and the history they imparted to a point with me was very interesting. My Uncle was in Grand Lodge and he was in there for 40+ years. I trusted him and loved him. I am not aware of any evil within the lodge or its members as it has never shown itself to me.

GMB1961

Ditto. The freemason I knew was a really nice person with tons of love to give to all. He drank too much at times but apart from that, he was no different than you and I. RIP


Having said that, I honestly think the highest degree freemasons may rule the world.
Let's have a look at Bush and Kerry for example.
Whoever won in the 2004 USA election, Skull and Bones would be in office.... wow, democracy at its best.



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[Bubu]

Most of the freemasons I knew are the likes of politicians and lawyers, They joined the ranks to take advantage of connections to gain favor on the rat race. Cant remember one who could be considered an emphat but a number of them I knew are sociopaths. I was recruited to de molay when I was in college they said its the junior mason. Didnt feel right so I left.

[Sérénité]

I agree with the other posts, they are a pyramid structure for the Illuminati.

At the lower levels they are just your average working class guys who use their fellow lodge associates for networking and a degree of social standing, through to the upper classes who use it for slightly more advantageous reasons (scratch my back and I'll scratch yours in the comfort of the knowledge that all will remain secret)
The higher the degree the more involved, in the know and advantageous the membership I guess. Once you get to and above the 33rd it all gets a lot different.

I know/have known quite a lot of people involved in the Masons, be it them directly or their partner/husband/father and also some of my own family members.
The majority of these people are your average hard working class types, albeit with unusually confident and composed aura's and almost always, financially comfortable.

I couldn't say much more from direct personal incidents, but stories and conversations I've had relayed first hand have made it clear that the Lodges stick together and should lodge members (or notably, close female relatives of members) meet outside issues that need sorting it could easily be arranged and then put to rest...

Any establishment that is run based on and surrounded by secrecy, regardless of its notable charitable input or 'upstanding' members I think should be treated with caution.

It may have began in modest roots for genuine reasons going back to the Knights Templar days, but sadly, as with most establishments which have the capacity to give the upper pyramid echelons the power and advantages they desire and the lower echelons the taste for power and greed thus left open to manipulation...it's a hot bed for wrong doings sugar coated to look like a charitable members only respectable establishment.

[Shannon]

My grandfather was a Freemason and one of the Vice Presidents of texaco oil back in the 50s and 60s...

He was a racist and sometime drunk who left nothing to his wife and kids for whatever reason....but I loved him very much.

Other than that I have no clue about masons:/

[Carmody]

Yep, a mixed bag, at best.

The longer and organization has been around, the more likely it is to be infiltrated and corrupted.

Goes for the given organized religions, as well. Or any system of beliefs, business, or politics.

The more secrecy it has regarding been seen by the public eye.... the more that shenanigans can go on out of sight......the more likely that infiltration and corruption has taken place, in more extreme means, methods and final states/conditions.

[ghostrider]

Stone cutters of the great pyramids of Giza given free rein by Ra to do whatever it takes to control the people - hence the term freemason ... They turned a storm shelter into a temple and proclaimed RA is god , unbelief in RA was punished by death...

[WhiteLove]

My perspective is that the Freemasons are used as a tool by the black world upon the white world according to the interests of the black world. The power can be performed upon a collective with a certain degree of protection as a result of the secrecy within the hierarchy. The society grows around people having certain common ego interests, especially tied to business, status, identity and class. At its core I believe it is used to perform certain functions in the world of corruption.

[Alpha141]

They are an aspect of the structure that has created an maintained the artificial Lay Line grid over Mother Earth's natural grid (n which our ancient ancestors built the temples of consciousness power when universal harmony was the aim not domination and control via banking, artificial laws, governance by the few etc) in order to have hierarchical rule on her. Each cornerstone is spiritual technology to link up this controlling grid to other aspects to form a web over Earth. Hence why post offices, places of governance, banking, manor homes etc where ancestral aspects of such institutions are utilised for this. And, sacred sites are bombed, mass wars are occurring, indigenous populations genocides, the populations are instilled with energy lowering activities like drugs and abuse etc. It is to lower the frequency in order to impede and trap the natural grid from surfacing. Their work it to maintain that which was done to gain control. And, many members in the highest levels are in Media, Business, Governance, Ruling DNA heritage, Religion etc. They all work for it. Not for our benefit.

The individuals who choose this path have a contributing karmatic consequence to this. That is why 'bloodlines' are significant. There are codes within certain blood types conducive to all this structure as to rule a planet it must be done in conjunction with the live which exists upon it. Why Andrew Bartzis offers Earth has been under incarnation war for a very long time. Their efforts impede the universal order. Earth and our solar system have been setup to resolve karma for the universe. Hence the desire of this structure to create it as it justifies it's continuance and therefore their organizational positions reliance. I would strongly agree that the majority are good people with a self serving aspect as a potential. But, from a life force matrix aspect have this consequence by contributing. Their assimilation into it contributes to a non-universally harmonic status quo we all want to resolve.

So take this as you will. As the sacred sites and venues are cleared. Freeing the places of power for the first time in eons to service our human family as locations for intuitive activations and development for out total potential to once more be realised. Keep an eye out for scandals re these organizations as their truth is revealed and structure becomes irrelevant going forth.

http://yournewswire.com/corrupt-italian-masonic-leader-dies-aged-96/

Enjoy

[moekatz]

Freemasons are secret holders. Why secrets? I run from anything that is on its face, based on secrecy. I'd ask what is the role of women in this organization too. Males dominate and that does not bode well for females. Secret blood oaths, dark symbolism and slavery of the human soul abounds in free mason belief. If you need a club to feel good about yourself, or need to feel "chosen" to feel uplifted, I'd suggest you try Mormonism first. It will only cost you 10 percent of your gross income.

[WhiteLove]

It will only cost you 10 percent of your gross income.

So elegantly explained...

[Nenuphar]

I'm confused, as your profile lists you as being female.

I find it odd that they would contact you. Unless things have drastically changed, it has always been up to the individual to initiate contact with the lodge or with someone he knows is a mason if he is interested in becoming a mason himself. I have never heard of a freemason or a lodge actively recruiting. (Though I am no expert on the subject, by any means. I just had several Freemasons in my family growing up.)

(Off-topic, but that's a beautiful cat in your picture! :sun: )

[RunningDeer]

I'm confused, as your profile lists you as being female.

I find it odd that they would contact you. Unless things have drastically changed, it has always been up to the individual to initiate contact with the lodge or with someone he knows is a mason if he is interested in becoming a mason himself. I have never heard of a freemason or a lodge actively recruiting. (Though I am no expert on the subject, by any means. I just had several Freemasons in my family growing up.)

Freemasonry and Women (http://www.msana.com/women.asp)

"In Freemasonry, as in all other areas of life, women play an important role. The opportunities for women to participate in Freemasonry are widespread and meet a variety of needs, from social interaction in the Orders for both men and women, to the unique needs met in the "women only" Masonic-related organizations. The moral and ethical values that Freemasonry encourages are universal and not gender-based.

Masonic Lodges maintain today a long-standing tradition of restricting membership in Freemasonry to men. This tradition is based on the historical all male membership of stonemasons guilds. During the Middle Ages, men traveled far from home and lived in lodges while constructing great cathedrals throughout Europe.

However, in the middle 1800s the fraternity took the progressive step, for that time, of creating organizations that included women, so that men and women could share Masonic fraternalism. The Order of the Eastern Star (the largest of these Masonic-related groups) was established in 1855, the Order of the Amaranth in 1873, and the White Shrine of Jerusalem in 1894…."


The Order of Women Freemasons (https://www.owf.org.uk)

"The Order of Women Freemasons is the oldest and largest Masonic organisation for women in this country and works on the lines of regular male Freemasonry….


Freemasons launch recruitment drive for young women (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/freemasons-launch-recruitment-drive-for-young-women-8282736.html)

“A lot of people have misconceptions about what Masonry is,” Ms Roberts says. Not surprising, given that for centuries members of this traditionally male club have refused to divulge what goes on behind closed doors in meetings and ceremonies. “I can say that it [the Freemasons] is an association, a fellowship if you like, dictated by a system of morals, with lot of symbols and philosophy...” Roberts explains. She compares it to an “occult”: “You need to believe in a divine intelligence or supreme being.”

[Nenuphar]

Wonderful post, RunningDeer! Suffice to say, I am very familiar with the Order of the Eastern Star and it's connection to Masonry. In my mind (semantics, perhaps), while they are intimately connected, they are not one and the same. Things might be different in much larger centers or other parts of the world, but speaking for myself, I have never met, or heard of, of a male member of the Order of the Eastern Star, or a female Freemason. My limited experience, perhaps, and my perspective, which was what Voices of Silence was requesting.

[DeDukshyn]

My brother-in-law is a freemason; I still recall the "mason" handshake he gave me when he first met me - obviously checking if I was a mason. I always wondered how the conversation would have ensued if I had returned the subtle shake back to him (has to do with thumb placement - just as an FYI, when a mason shakes your hand in a way to reveal his "mason-ness", he will place his thumb way up high on the finger knuckle - where exactly, I think also denotes some other info - I'm not an expert on it).

He's also a self proclaimed Christian, goes to church on Christian holidays, etc. - Like most "Christians" I suppose. :) He's a hard worker, at the same time likes to party (less so these days, he's getting a bit older now). Basically innocuous.

We also likely have the odd member or two here that are masons. I do recall, ex member (and missed by many) Modwiz was also a freemason, and shared his POV on it at least once somewhere in Avalon. I also worked with an English bloke who's father was high up in the freemasons - he shared a little on how at that level, there was a lot of networking happening, and a lot of "behind the scenes" transactions -- the "wink wink, nudge nudge" type of stuff, but nothing ever seemingly nefarious.

From what I gather, it's a bit like a "men's" club, the main uses seem to be to have a channel of "trustworthy" people in specific channels that can be trusted with tasks or relaying info; it is also my experience that they are very trustworthy and good with secrets. This makes sense as to why almost all astronauts chosen to go to space are masons - likely because they can be trusted to keep secrets.

That's just my view from my limited knowledge and experience. I am sure the channels go up very far, and not necessarily people who don't have their own interests at heart. In short, as someone mentioned, there appears to a distinct line somewhere between the upper and lower levels.

[DeDukshyn]

Stone cutters of the great pyramids of Giza given free rein by Ra to do whatever it takes to control the people - hence the term freemason ... They turned a storm shelter into a temple and proclaimed RA is god , unbelief in RA was punished by death...

With a little dot connecting, there's a bit of info in your post that jives with a remote viewing (Farsight inst.) reading of the "building of the pyramids". The "storm" seems to be some cosmic event, the pyramids had some relationship to this cosmic storm (but not exactly a shelter), and the project was "sabotaged" by some other beings, and the pyramids ended up being used for a "religious" purpose.

The RV session was unable to indicate the initial purpose of the Pyramids, and interestingly, one being who seemed to be overseeing the building of the Giza pyamids, actually interacted with one of the RVers while he was in session - indicating to, in a sense, "not go there" when he was really trying to dig into the original purpose of them. This "type" of being indicated was also interesting - not human. Not that one can put full faith in RV sessions, but I found this one interesting, if nothing more than to humour meandering thoughts on possibilities, and perhaps lending some extra things to think about and connect dots to.

Here's the full version of the RV sessions - long, but if anyone is interested, I found it fascinating. There is a 40 min short version too on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJz0mm8cSt4

Anyway, we're way off topic here :) :focus:

[RunningDeer]

but speaking for myself, I have never met, or heard of, of a male member of the Order of the Eastern Star, or a female Freemason.
I knew a female that was involved with the Eastern Star while her husband was part of the Freemasons. I scanned about seven articles. My goal was to see if women were able to join the Freemason. From the links provided, I came away with the understanding that there are both men and women in the same Freemason chapters.

Freemasons launch recruitment drive for young women (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/freemasons-launch-recruitment-drive-for-young-women-8282736.html)

“Forget secretive circles of white-haired men locking fingers in strange handshakes, they say. A British branch is in the throes of a thoroughly modern recruitment drive. It is using Facebook and Twitter to sign up new members, particularly young women, to its society.

“A lot of people have misconceptions about what Masonry is,” Ms Roberts says. Not surprising, given that for centuries members of this traditionally male club have refused to divulge what goes on behind closed doors in meetings and ceremonies. “I can say that it [the Freemasons] is an association, a fellowship if you like, dictated by a system of morals, with lot of symbols and philosophy...”

“We open our arms to anybody, of any background, religion or gender,” Josefowicz concludes.

:offtopic:

[TargeT]

I always wondered how the conversation would have ensued if I had returned the subtle shake back to him

A series of challenge questions ;)



He's also a self proclaimed Christian, goes to church on Christian holidays, etc. - Like most "Christians" I suppose. :) He's a hard worker, at the same time likes to party (less so these days, he's getting a bit older now). Basically innocuous.

Masons have to believe in a higher power, but it's non-denominational.


We also likely have the odd member or two here that are masons.

From what I gather, it's a bit like a "men's" club, the main uses seem to be to have a channel of "trustworthy" people in specific channels that can be trusted with tasks or relaying info; it is also my experience that they are very trustworthy and good with secrets. This makes sense as to why almost all astronauts chosen to go to space are masons - likely because they can be trusted to keep secrets.

That's just my view from my limited knowledge and experience. I am sure the channels go up very far, and not necessarily people who don't have their own interests at heart. In short, as someone mentioned, there appears to a distinct line somewhere between the upper and lower levels.

It teaches things that I found before I joined, but they are REALLY good things (the "secrets") & I would suggest everyone learn them. Our Motto is "making good men better" and gives a platform for charitable works; from what I've seen all around good things.

I'm sure it's been corrupted at some level at some point in time (maybe still part of it is) but the majority isn't... just a social club for society minded individuals (people who are in a position to be able to "give back" or who are willing do so).

But I'm very low level right now, just started.



“A lot of people have misconceptions about what Masonry is,” Ms Roberts says. Not surprising, given that for centuries members of this traditionally male club have refused to divulge what goes on behind closed doors in meetings and ceremonies. “I can say that it [the Freemasons] is an association, a fellowship if you like, dictated by a system of morals, with lot of symbols and philosophy...”

“We open our arms to anybody, of any background, religion or gender,” Josefowicz concludes.

:offtopic:

women have the option of joining the sister hood of the eastern star, but that is a subordinate group to a Mason chapter (a chapter has to sponsor them basicallY) so yes, and no... we work with the sisterhood, but they have their meetings and we have ours, it's not the same thing really.

[ghostrider]

To get back on topic, freemasons were basically scientist/priest/inner circle of which ever Et was in charge at any given time ...

[DeDukshyn]

To get back on topic, freemasons were basically scientist/priest/inner circle of which ever Et was in charge at any given time ...

Well they certainly had info to be carried on from an ancient and knowledgeable past and be able to have some of it encoded into all sorts of structures around the globe ... this is for certain.

[ghostrider]

Greatest secret on earth - the origin of the compass and the square ... knowledge given to men by more advanced men ... they guard real history , we're only shown the history they want seen ...

[Fiberglut]

Freemasons are a satanic cult, and yes, it has been that way for a very long time. I honestly did not realize this was such a well kept secret.

[Search]

"hidden in plain sight"... They like not being connected to things that they influence (maybe due to their charitable nature?) but still like to be noticed.

[TargeT]

Freemasons are a satanic cult, and yes, it has been that way for a very long time. I honestly did not realize this was such a well kept secret.

satan and lucifer are completely different. BTW.

there may be luciferian influence; but I have yet to see it.

even our rituals are more "engineering" in nature than "spiritual" (though that's mixed in) & they are mostly allegorical in nature.

[Snoweagle]

From my experience of being invited or rather I had been prepositioned a number of times I am able to make these observations. There is a place for anybody within Freemasonry. From the very rich to the very poor. As long as they swear their allegiance to the Society and perform their duties dutifully then all are acceepted. This provides the means to apply "social leverage" to facilitate activities of the Society or the organisation at large.

I had also the priviliedge to work as copy editor/technical production in Print origination where I took receipt of manuscripts for typesetting and there were often Freemasonic Society Hanbooks put into production. Our Managing Director was a Freemason. The more I read, the more I disliked the concept.

I had refused engaging when offers were imminent as my core tenet of disapproval was "when the order came to do something, without question you are to participate" and failing in that duty would have dire consequences.

I am a senior technician and refused promotion to desk jobs throughout my working life, I loved the dynamism of my days, not knowing what tech problem was coming my way when I arrived at work. I was authorised both officially and unofficially across several disciplines and made my own decisions and reported them as such, much to the chagrin of peers. I would stand face to face with everybody and make my technical/scientific assessment and have it challenged. I was respected and trusted virtually everywhere I worked. It was this attitude that I believe promoted the invitations. (One not so long ago either).

I was also invited to the 200th Freemsonic celebration at York Minster Cathedral (not the service but the social event afterwards) where all the senior Society members were in attendance. No, they did not talk shop with me once they were aware I was an "outsider". For me, it was another pleasant day out in the sunshine in good company.

The reason I am saying this is; I believe in Societies, both secret and open. We mankind could not progress without them. They are beneficial in bringing together the "movers and shakers" of this world. If truth beknown, your very own lives is nothing more than Society membership in one manner or another.

The problem that the modern Freemasonic Movement has is the corruption by the ever entrenching influence of the Talmud and Torah driving the formality and discipline into such a rigid discipline. I know many members and we do not talk of their membership. This I find troubling at times, as at times, when in full flight of debate or discussion they appear to flounder and withdraw quite unnecessarily from the topic. There is a fear about them that is palpable and due to their commitmment to loyalty to the organisation it isn't worth the effort to reach out to them. As often they are now dependant or they "owe" the Society for the rewards they now enjoy.

In all, my perspective of Freemasonry today, it has been corrupted. It has been corrupted badly. All warfare on the planet is driven by Freemasonic influence. Only freemasonry can save itself and that must be done from the inside.

[DeDukshyn]

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In all, my perspective of Freemasonry today, it has been corrupted. It has been corrupted badly. All warfare on the planet is driven by Freemasonic influence. Only freemasonry can save itself and that must be done from the inside.

Swap out "freemasonry" for "humanity" :)

[Snoweagle]

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In all, my perspective of Freemasonry today, it has been corrupted. It has been corrupted badly. All warfare on the planet is driven by Freemasonic influence. Only freemasonry can save itself and that must be done from the inside.

Swap out "freemasonry" for "humanity" :)

Actually, No. My comment was directed squarely at the topic regarding specifically Freemasonry.

Indeed I agree that humanity has been corrupted as well, though the corruption is more accurately labelled "poisoned" in my opinion. Economics, Religion and retarded science apptitudes enforced by an educated disciplinary domicile of social behaviour in monstrous cityscapes has disassociated humanities essence from the natural environment. However, that is a completely different subject requiring another thread if one doesn't already exist already.

[DeDukshyn]

....

In all, my perspective of Freemasonry today, it has been corrupted. It has been corrupted badly. All warfare on the planet is driven by Freemasonic influence. Only freemasonry can save itself and that must be done from the inside.

Swap out "freemasonry" for "humanity" :)

Actually, No. My comment was directed squarely at the topic regarding specifically Freemasonry.

Indeed I agree that humanity has been corrupted as well, though the corruption is more accurately labelled "poisoned" in my opinion. Economics, Religion and retarded science apptitudes enforced by an educated disciplinary domicile of social behaviour in monstrous cityscapes has disassociated humanities essence from the natural environment. However, that is a completely different subject requiring another thread if one doesn't already exist already.

Poisoned, corrupted ... really, not much difference in your description of Freemasons, and that which could be applied equally to all of humanity. I think if we were to criticize directly, it would need to be a little more specific. (Not that one couldn't -- I am just philosophising :))

[illuxxina]

The society and politics (consequences) could not manifest without the majority being it first. Secret societies are built on what humanity is. If its corrupted then that is just the reflection of the majority, if it's clean,; then its the big shift of what side has become the majority.
There is no drama, only people, the true face of humanity. The rest is the minority. Its very simple, why make it complicated.

As documented on this thread, people who know nothing about the facts inside any lodge feel the need to tell they know someone who are or has been inside a freemasonry org. You all know it's directly from the ego-show-off nothing more. No facts, no knowledge. Then why even bother- yes because it feels good. And that is the essence of why there is secrecy and corruption. Most people envy
those in power, truth is most want to own that power too.
To become part of something without knowing anything is one of the obvious proofs that people also willingly become part of something based on reputation and bragging rights. But the good part is that these kind of societies focus on moral and ethics anyway. But still its rather primitive to take part in anything where information is hidden. But if one has a direct connection to "higher " information independently then it should be safe.

These so called secret societies do have information about the real history and less distorted information that can lead to the "path". But they are not the top of the pyramid.

When a person is capable of perceiving reality in its true form from the outside with a higher perspective, that's when one are developing the "eye of horus".

Some here thinks satan and lucifer is the same , but its not , satan is the symbolic version of the true nature of humans, what they where and their path to " spiritual enlightenment". Lucifer is the bringer of light and knowledge. Lucifer is not an entity.
Its light and knowledge.
Jesus is supposed to be Christ, but he is the bringer of NWO, as written in the bible.
Look at the christ part..
Lucifer is not an entity and satan is the true human form but most people delusional likes to think of themselves as "angels". Some are not typical humans, they are gifted but they waste this incarnation on ego, using their gifts for money and honor and using their energy planing on how to escape from here thru ascension, leaving this global catastrophe behind... they came here to aid, help humanity but they don't choose to become part of the system or being any strong resource to the system and politics. No, they run with their tails between their legs focusing on the ego and sometimes speaking big words wanting to be respected as gurus.

Yes, humanity needed help but the helpers chose to help themselves and sometimes heal you for money..

Freemason might seem dangerous, but at least they focus on being a resource to the society and they don't need lazy people into their lodge.

[Star Tsar]

These videos covered lots of gaps in my knowledge of Freemasonry....

Watch this one first please

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[moekatz]

When one is required to take blood oaths that if they reveal the "secrets" they may be killed, I question the base intention of the organization. All mormon temple attendees take the blood oaths replete with making the sign of slashing the throat. Agreeing to give up your ability to reason if an order is right or wrong, taking orders without question and agreeing to be put to death, is not my idea of a proper way to uplift the world. Benefiting from association and thereby enhancing one's monetary status is the real reason men like to be "called" to join the club. As a female and therefore being automatically restricted from the inner circle of freemasonary, actually saved me from a boat load of trouble. I'd ask all males of this forum to reconsider the immense evil that comes from this secret society. If they have recently started to recruit females, it won't be because they need female input. They've done without that for eons.

[TargeT]

When one is required to take blood oaths that if they reveal the "secrets" they may be killed,

no blood oaths, just a verbal oath ;)

I saw no evil when we were volunteering at the old peoples home last week :P

I'm not saying its all roses and cherries , but for the most part these are good people trying to do good in their communities.

[drneglector]

Here is some more interesting information about Freemasonry...

Freemasonry is a tradition in which morality is taught through a system of symbols, allegories and rituals. In the modern day it has fallen from its originally intent.

Freemasonry is a very old tradition. (How old depends on your source material). Some say its one of the mystery traditions of consciousness and dates back to the ancient world when Egypt was called the land of Kemet (Black Land), a place where people got initiated into the mysteries. Kemet is the root of the word alchemy and the keepers of this knowledge consider themselves shiny beacons of light. They are teachers who are keeping a tradition, from time immemorial, of how morality and spiritual law works. The mystery traditions of Kemet were encoded into a system of symbols and allegorical lessons.

There is a dual side to Freemasonry, the positive aspect of it and the corrupted/perverted side of it. As dark occultists always do, they don't create/invent things but they take things that are already there and use it to their own selfish/egoic benefit. The mystery tradition was already in existence before the dark occult came and took it over.

Until the occult knowledge is put out in the light of day, humans are going to continue to be enslaved, because this is knowledge people need to know about themselves. It is a science for understanding how suffering is created through going against spiritual law principles, by understanding the self and changing ones behaviour in accordance with that truth.

Freemasonry is ultimately about how to build a better person through brain and heart, that is what the craft is constructing. The lower aspect of one self (base consciousness/physical world identification) need to be ruled in order to achieve self-mastery (becoming a being that exists in unity consciousness/as you think, so you feel, so you act).



The symbolic aspect of the Masonic Seal and the 33 degrees...

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The square represents base consciousness, imbalance, rigid. The 90 degree angle is not in nature. The earth bound awareness/materialism/ego based thinking is ruled by instinct and passions through the R-Complex of the brain.

The compass represents coming upward in consciousness to a place of balance and understanding. Compasses trace a circle, the perfected shape, which is associated with cosmic consciousness. They are flexible, they bend, not rigid which implies teach-ability.

The G represents different concepts as you go up in the hierarchy. Starting with something simple as geometry, to more abstract concepts as the Grand Architect of the Universe, God/Goddess, Gnosis and the Generative Principle.



The 3 initiatory degrees comprise the Blue Lodge and is based upon the legend of Hiram Abif (the allegorically prototypical Freemason).

1. Entered Aprentance
2. Fellow Craft
3. Master Mason

The degrees from 4 to 32 comprise the Red Lodge. The Scottish Rite and the York Rite base themselves largely upon the Hiramic legend that follows after Hiram Abiff's 'resurrection'.

The symbolic aspect of the 32 degrees, and below, corresponds to the temperature at which water is frozen, in its ice form (not yet melted and free flowing, not received enough light from the sun/knowledge).

Degree 33 and up comprises of what is referred to as the White or Black Lodge.

When you reach the 33rd degree, symbolically the ice melts and becomes water (the symbol of Spirit). That is why 33 are considered the first degree of illumination, because it is the first degree of temperature at which water melts, when it has received enough sunlight/knowledge.


There is so much more to it than this... keep in mind that this is a simplistic version of a enigmatic topic; Freemasonry. Feel free to add information... I am on the outside looking inn.

My main sources for this information was Mark Passio`s podcasts and the book Inside the Brootherhood by Martin Short.

[TargeT]

My main sources for this information was Mark Passio`s podcasts and the book Inside the Brootherhood by Martin Short.

Thats a lot of stuff we aren't suppose to talk about.. even though it's pretty much out there for anyone who cares to find.

Still,

http://boardofwisdom.com/cachetogo/images/quotes/273658.png


Freemasonry subtly encourages self driven initiative in personal growth ;)

[kirolak]

When I was a small child, one of my mother's closest friends often spoke of The Secret Lodge. I'm not sure if she meant The Masons or not. She also showed me, as a special treat, some beaded aprons (?) used in rituals. (My main recollection of her was her insistence that I learn English by listening to the BBC children's programmes!)

She was also a medium, & apparently drew a sketch of a house, drove about looking for it, & then bought it. . . . .she was very secretive, & this is all long ago, so take this for what it's worth :)

[drneglector]

My main sources for this information was Mark Passio`s podcasts and the book Inside the Brootherhood by Martin Short.

Thats a lot of stuff we aren't suppose to talk about.. even though it's pretty much out there for anyone who cares to find.

Still,

http://boardofwisdom.com/cachetogo/images/quotes/273658.png


Freemasonry subtly encourages self driven initiative in personal growth ;)

That is true indeed!

And since our words are all we have I think it is important to use our words wisely. That’s why I don’t force my knowledge into peoples ears but try to put the information where it belong – and I think this type of information fits well in with this truth-seeking forum under a thread which is about Freemasonry.

I respect that you heed your words and protect your brotherhood TargeT and I wish you the best on your journey towards discovering TRUTH! My words are not bound by any oath so I will gladly shed some light, where there is darkness and obfuscation, in the name of TRUTH and FREEDOM. You see if somebody would told me some spiritual truths when I was growing up – I would not grow up ignorant of it and it would save me from a lot of pain and suffering and it would not be so hard devouring this occult information now. I’m tired of the secrecy which is why I don’t have any problem de-occulting this information. Truth does not belong to you or me – to any group or anyone – the truth belongs to all of us! And if we all would speak it – it would set us all free.

I also realize the Hermetic and Theosophical approach which will tell you not to share this information to the uninitiated (the “swine”), because “they will hate you for it”. I believe that was true once but now the times are different and we really need to come together in true solidarity now, more than ever. Many people will still hate you for it, but it is worth it even if you only help one person, in my opinion.

[Apophenia]

Well, the Free Masons are certainly a secret society group connected with the NWO/Illuminati, not to mention are in all probability behind much of the modern worlds occult or esoteric symbolism that pops up everywhere, including the all-seeing eye, dualistic checkered patterns, trinity symbolism, injecting old world beliefs into popular culture, etc...

The 'higher power' referred to in Masonry is the Architect, or the Demiurge, and the 'G' inside the square and compass can either mean the Godhead or Gnosis. The level of secrecy is attached to the levels, they aren't just there to denote importance or ranking, but how much truth trickles down.

This same secret society has had influence over Zechariah Sitchin, David Icke, Jordan Maxwell, and many others within the alternative community. Where the influences of Free Masonry end and where these communities begin isn't all that clear.

[albativo]

Some information here (http://www.ephesians5-11.org/handshakes.htm) on their handshakes, passwords, etc.