Does Obama want to pass gun control laws like Australia's false flag mass shooting gun control laws?

[Althena]

Here’s some food for thought.

Yesterday the Washington Post reported that after the Charleston shooting, Obama has been talking about how the U.S. needs to pass sweeping, strict gun control laws similar to those which were passed after a 1996 mass shooting in Australia:

In an interview with comedian Marc Maron that aired Monday, President Obama cited Australia’s gun laws as an example the United States should follow. Australia established strict gun control in response to a massacre in Tasmania that left 35 people dead in 1996. Since then, Australia hasn’t witnessed any mass shootings.

“It was just so shocking the entire country said, ‘Well, we’re going to completely change our gun laws’, and they did. And it hasn’t happened since,” Obama said, discussing the shooting deaths of nine people at a historic black church in Charleston.

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But, as we all know by now, governments who want sweeping power over their populations are known to stage events, false flags, to gain that sweeping power.
Much like the suspicious Dunblane school massacre which led to ultra strict gun control in the UK (and that happened to occur just six weeks prior), many have questioned the details of that 1996 Australia shooting and the confession of the supposed shooter behind them as highly suspicious in the years since.

Here’s a sampling:

Just after noon on 28th April 1996, an unknown marksman opened fire on diners in the Broad Arrow Cafe at Port Arthur in Australia.
In less than 20 minutes at this and five other crime scenes, the marksman killed 35, injured 22, and crippled two cars with only 64 shots. Nineteen of the first twenty dead in the Broad Arrow Cafe died from single shots to the head, all fired by the unknown marksman from his right hip.
This staggering display of marksmanship was blamed on left-handed and intellectually impaired Martin Bryant, whose shooting experience extended to popping off cans in the bush, and had no military training of any kind. From the time of his arrest, remand prisoner Martin Bryant was illegally held in strict solitary confinement and denied access to media of any kind until his police interrogation on 4th July 1996.
When he refused to admit to the Port Arthur Massacre at interrogation, he was once more placed back in illegal solitary confinement. Eventually in desperation during November 1996, Martin Bryant pleaded “guilty” 72 times, thereby allowing the authorities to avoid a humiliating trial at which they could present no hard evidence of guilt. Intellectually impaired Martin Bryant was convicted by a hysterical media pack, then forced to plead guilty by prison officials illegally enforcing solitary confinement…

[Althena]

Here’s a little bit more information on Byrant, who is currently serving 35 life sentences plus 1,035 years without parole in a prison psychiatric wing in Tasmania:
Bryant was judged fit to stand trial, and his trial was scheduled to begin 7 November 1996. Bryant initially pleaded not guilty, but was persuaded by his court-appointed lawyer and the prosecution to plead guilty to all charges.

Two weeks later, Hobart Supreme Court Judge William Cox gave Bryant 35 life sentences for the murders plus 1035 years for other crimes, and ordered that he should remain in prison for the “rest of his life”. He has attempted suicide six times while being imprisoned.
So… A man with mental issues who has never presented a straight account of what actually happened the day of the shooting and who initially was going to plead not guilty but was held in solitary and even told by his own lawyer to plead guilty was quickly sentenced to 35 life sentences plus 1,035 years, all in just two weeks without ever receiving a public trial?

Again… food for thought.

Interestingly, gun control had been a hot political topic in Australia throughout the 1980s but meaningful reforms had not happened until after the 1996 shooting, when Australia promptly passed the National Firearms Agreement severely limiting private gun ownership in the country. While rifles, shotguns, and some handguns are still legal there, it is only within a very narrow set of criteria.

Only about 5% of the nation’s citizens own a firearm now.

Wow, that's pretty sad. Great article, enlightening to say the least, I feel for a our Australian brothers...

[Rocky_Shorz]

300 million guns in America, gun violence will stop when mentally disturbed individuals can no longer get bullets...

If some tweeked out spaz walks in and says I would like to buy 30,000 rounds of bullets a flagged background check is run that notifies federal agencies...

The agencies have access to medical records and can see if the person needs to be institutionalized...

It really isn't that tough...

Guns don't kill people, bullets do...

Keep your guns, but hand over your bullets...

Gun shops and ammo outlets need strict licensing, now that Marijuana is being legalized, the prison system needs new crimes to fill their cells.

Make it illegal to sell guns or bullets without seeing the buyer, no internet purchases.

This isn't about people having guns, anyone that can drive can get guns unless they are basket case lunatics, who draws the red line to crazy is the important question.

Violent offenders who had all charges dropped...

Right now if they were tagged with a felony, they can't buy or have or purchase a gun

Should it be a lifetime ban, or only until it falls from police records?

Should those arrested for a crime receive the same ban at the discretion of a judge, even if a slick talking lawyer got him off Scott free?

These are the discussions educated people should be having...

There is no escaping the fact something has to be done...

Black lives matter I have never seen marching in front of gun shops...

More die in Chicago each year than we lose soldiers in war...

Police will be able to concentrate on stopping illegal weapons trafficking and sources of these guns that are killing kids.

Not to stop hunting or those who have them for self defense.

The Birther spinners are at it again, don't get caught in Mind Control psy-op

Think of answers

[Althena]

300 million guns in America, gun violence will stop when mentally disturbed individuals can no longer get bullets...

If some tweeked out spaz walks in and says I would like to buy 30,000 rounds of bullets a flagged background check is run that notifies federal agencies...

The agencies have access to medical records and can see if the person needs to be institutionalized...

It really isn't that tough...

Guns don't kill people, bullets do...

Keep your guns, but hand over your bullets...

That's not going to help either, like I said before in another post, I know a lot of people that make their own ammo and they sell it to whom ever they want.

[Rocky_Shorz]

They will have to get licensed or not have access to gunpowder and shell casings

I added quite a bit to my last post

Everything falls under a new tracking system

If you carry credit cards or a cell phone, you can be tracked down, if you don't carry either, you are most likely a nut that shouldn't be buying bullets

[Althena]

For the most part you can reuse brass casings multiple times until they show signs of fatigue. (Depends on the quality and the brand of course)
And as for gun powder, it was one of the first things we learned how to make when we were kids. Aahh, the good old days...

I really don't see any way around it, sorry...

[TargeT]

If you carry credit cards or a cell phone, you can be tracked down, if you don't carry either, you are most likely a nut that shouldn't be buying bullets

yes comrade, and we should string those nuts up! how dare they not buy into materialism.. .CLEARLY something is wrong with someone who does not buy into the same systems as you do!


For the most part you can reuse brass casings multiple times until they show signs of fatigue. (Depends on the quality and the brand of course)
And as for gun powder, it was one of the first things we learned how to make when we were kids. Aahh, the good old days...

I really don't see any way around it, sorry...

8wW5KR1pDxs ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I am telling you what is happening, guns being used in Gang wars are most likely not connected to those who are creating piss into gunpowder...

GOP should move it forward smartly instead of spending time whining it is happening...

[rgray222]

GOP should move it forward smartly instead of spending time whining it is happening...

Please keep in mind that when Obama owned the administration and both houses of congress he tried to move forward gun control legislation and it was the democrats that were whining about it. The democrats would not allow discussion on the issue and they very fervently rejected every effort to put in controls.

As usual, the mainstream media successfully blamed to GOP and many people bought into that false narrative.

[TigaHawk]

Here’s a little bit more information on Byrant, who is currently serving 35 life sentences plus 1,035 years without parole in a prison psychiatric wing in Tasmania:
Bryant was judged fit to stand trial, and his trial was scheduled to begin 7 November 1996. Bryant initially pleaded not guilty, but was persuaded by his court-appointed lawyer and the prosecution to plead guilty to all charges.

Two weeks later, Hobart Supreme Court Judge William Cox gave Bryant 35 life sentences for the murders plus 1035 years for other crimes, and ordered that he should remain in prison for the “rest of his life”. He has attempted suicide six times while being imprisoned.
So… A man with mental issues who has never presented a straight account of what actually happened the day of the shooting and who initially was going to plead not guilty but was held in solitary and even told by his own lawyer to plead guilty was quickly sentenced to 35 life sentences plus 1,035 years, all in just two weeks without ever receiving a public trial?

Again… food for thought.

Interestingly, gun control had been a hot political topic in Australia throughout the 1980s but meaningful reforms had not happened until after the 1996 shooting, when Australia promptly passed the National Firearms Agreement severely limiting private gun ownership in the country. While rifles, shotguns, and some handguns are still legal there, it is only within a very narrow set of criteria.

Only about 5% of the nation’s citizens own a firearm now.

Wow, that's pretty sad. Great article, enlightening to say the least, I feel for a our Australian brothers...



Please keep in mind that since these gun law's were introduced - it has not stopped the violence significantly. People that really want guns - will still be able to get their hands on them. People still die to shootings on a fairly regular basis - it's just that there are more civilian casualties as the "law abiding citizen" has no means to defend themselves against someone with a gun (ie being able to shoot back)

Kife and other weapon's use went up after they took away guns.

We are not safer now without guns than we were with them.

Our nation's gun rights were stripped away by a setup situation - I feel for that man in Jail. And now it's happening to you guy's in the US.

Will you just roll over when they declare it mandatory you register and surrender your firearms?

[Foxie Loxie]

Who knew!!!

[thunder24]

come on yall...what is wrong...simple logic....

everytime the presiddnts mouth opens about guns...record sells happen.... it is reverse psychology... bullets and guns are flyinig off the shelves.... get off the philisophical ideals...and look at what happens every time gun control is brought up... siriusly....talk to people on the street..... and if you feel you are in a liberal area or city get someone elses observation away from where you are....

[TargeT]

I am telling you what is happening, guns being used in Gang wars are most likely not connected to those who are creating piss into gunpowder...

GOP should move it forward smartly instead of spending time whining it is happening...

Gang wars? Do you really think this is a problem that deserves this type of focus?


Number of deaths for leading causes of death (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm)

Heart disease: 611,105
Cancer: 584,881
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 149,205
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 130,557
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,978
Alzheimer's disease: 84,767
Diabetes: 75,578
Influenza and Pneumonia: 56,979
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 47,112
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 41,149


Guns are only an issue if your a government and you want to oppress people.... the rest is just theater.



come on yall...what is wrong...simple logic....

everytime the presiddnts mouth opens about guns...record sells happen.... it is reverse psychology... bullets and guns are flyinig off the shelves.... get off the philisophical ideals...and look at what happens every time gun control is brought up... siriusly....talk to people on the street..... and if you feel you are in a liberal area or city get someone elses observation away from where you are....

hard to see that and think it's not intended...

but why? it doesn't really make sense... (if it is intended that we have more guns, I do not think it is).

[PurpleLama]

The question then would be, are there any gun manufacturers who are big contributors to the given politician who is currently making noise about gun control.

If they ordered America to hand in their guns, I predict that the vast majority of people simply wouldn't do it.

[Calz]

Yup ... gun grabs lead to genocide ...


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[Rocky_Shorz]

The question then would be, are there any gun manufacturers who are big contributors to the given politician who is currently making noise about gun control.

If they ordered America to hand in their guns, I predict that the vast majority of people simply wouldn't do it.

Most people think gun control equates to removing guns, not seeing they are tightening access... Huge difference

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If America came under attack, blanket texts would go out to everyone's phones just like they do for Emergency storm warnings...

If you are registered, your phone would be one they lit up when War of the World's begins, blue beam at its finest...


Who knows if the story is true about a recent release of Greys kidnapping a Nations leader to show they were capable of taking anyone, they threatened to remove US and Russia's leaders if we didn't meet their demands...

Maybe with enough guns and bullets they would be overwhelmed before they destroyed the Nation...

[TargeT]

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I live in an area with VERY VERY Strict "gun control"

the above image is EXACTLY what has happened here.

the USVI currently enjoys the 3rd highest murder rate in the world & I think it's probably 80% due to the fact that it's basically illegal for a normal person to own a gun...

Gun control does NOT work.. I live in the proof.

[Calz]

Check the stats in Chicago ... nuff said.


Gun Control is Why Chicago Murder Rates Are Skyrocketing

http://mic.com/articles/22622/gun-control-is-why-chicago-murder-rates-are-skyrocketing#.CrmVjwMcu

[Luxlucis]

I think Hitler also disarmed the population prior to WW2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany

[etheric underground]

Here’s some food for thought.

Yesterday the Washington Post reported that after the Charleston shooting, Obama has been talking about how the U.S. needs to pass sweeping, strict gun control laws similar to those which were passed after a 1996 mass shooting in Australia:

In an interview with comedian Marc Maron that aired Monday, President Obama cited Australia’s gun laws as an example the United States should follow. Australia established strict gun control in response to a massacre in Tasmania that left 35 people dead in 1996. Since then, Australia hasn’t witnessed any mass shootings.

“It was just so shocking the entire country said, ‘Well, we’re going to completely change our gun laws’, and they did. And it hasn’t happened since,” Obama said, discussing the shooting deaths of nine people at a historic black church in Charleston.

http://i.imgur.com/h3rAwNN.jpg

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But, as we all know by now, governments who want sweeping power over their populations are known to stage events, false flags, to gain that sweeping power.
Much like the suspicious Dunblane school massacre which led to ultra strict gun control in the UK (and that happened to occur just six weeks prior), many have questioned the details of that 1996 Australia shooting and the confession of the supposed shooter behind them as highly suspicious in the years since.

Here’s a sampling:

Just after noon on 28th April 1996, an unknown marksman opened fire on diners in the Broad Arrow Cafe at Port Arthur in Australia.
In less than 20 minutes at this and five other crime scenes, the marksman killed 35, injured 22, and crippled two cars with only 64 shots. Nineteen of the first twenty dead in the Broad Arrow Cafe died from single shots to the head, all fired by the unknown marksman from his right hip.
This staggering display of marksmanship was blamed on left-handed and intellectually impaired Martin Bryant, whose shooting experience extended to popping off cans in the bush, and had no military training of any kind. From the time of his arrest, remand prisoner Martin Bryant was illegally held in strict solitary confinement and denied access to media of any kind until his police interrogation on 4th July 1996.
When he refused to admit to the Port Arthur Massacre at interrogation, he was once more placed back in illegal solitary confinement. Eventually in desperation during November 1996, Martin Bryant pleaded “guilty” 72 times, thereby allowing the authorities to avoid a humiliating trial at which they could present no hard evidence of guilt. Intellectually impaired Martin Bryant was convicted by a hysterical media pack, then forced to plead guilty by prison officials illegally enforcing solitary confinement…

There is a really good read called the Deadly deception at port Arthur by Joe Viallis. It pretty much details the hoax that occurred in this terrible false flag event, including detail on how every one in the café was double tapped ( shot twice in the head) which is a military technique to ensure the person you have shot stays dead....I know this because I was a special air service trained soldier who was taught this.

[Rocky_Shorz]

If you take away the false flags along with MKUltra human drones...

Is there really anything else going on other than gang bangers?

[bluestflame]

the original target in portarthur was the ferryload of senior US citizens , meticulously planned operation that went south cos the timtable for the ferry had it arriving half hour later , after the first shot was fired they were commited and been in damage control ever since

ex PM john howards recent media appearance dredging up Oz gunlaws got me thinking and reexploring , then it clicked stuff i'd glanced over before made sense

[TargeT]

the original target in portarthur was the ferryload of senior US citizens , meticulously planned operation that went south cos the timtable for the ferry had it arriving half hour later , after the first shot was fired they were commited and been in damage control ever since

ex PM john howards recent media appearance dredging up Oz gunlaws got me thinking and reexploring , then it clicked stuff i'd glanced over before made sense


So it was a botched assassination attempt? can you expand a bit more? I know so little about it that I'd have trouble even ineternet-searching my way to understanding.

[conk]

The Constitution gives us the right to guns in order that we may protect ourselves from the GOVERNMENT, not from gangs or terrorists or serial killers or burglars or or or or or....

That is why they want our guns. We'll know it's close to the end when they achieve that goal. It will conveniently coincide with a cashless society. Your smartphone will serve as the heralded Mark of the Beast and when they turn it off (along with your digital funds) you will be an outcast (with no gun) that will have to reside in a FEMA camp. Or not, maybe I'm crazy.

[bluestflame]

try this ( a good start for further digging) http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/port_arthur.htm


"17. It is evident that the massacre was planned to happen on the ferry which sailed to the Isle of the Dead every day. The victims were to be eighty elderly American tourists who had come in two coaches. But the plan went awry because the sailing time of the ferry had changed from 1.30 to
2.00 pm.

All the preparations were made for a 1.30 massacre, so the killer began his work at the Broad Arrow Cafe at 1.30, instead of on the ferry at 2.00.

Here is some evidence suggesting that the plan was to kill the Americans at 1.30 on the way to the Isle of the Dead where tourists are shown the ancient convict cemetery -

(a) The gunman had tried to buy a ticket for the 1.30 sailing.
(b) When the gunman began pulling out his weapons in the Cafe, one Professional witness [Anthony Nightingale] stood up shouting "No, no, not here!!" If it was not meant to be "here", then it was meant to be somewhere else. Nightingale was shot for he had obviously given the game away.

(c) Had the gunman waited for the 2.00 sailing, the decoyed policemen may have returned with their firearms and two-way radios and upset things.

(d) Also, with the later start the trauma surgeons at the Royal Hobart Hospital may have dispersed and not been available to treated the wounded victims.
(e) In a video made by the Tasmania Police we are told that some policemen came by sea to Port Arthur in patrol boats. These police did not go ashore. They did not come to the crime scenes at the Cafe or elsewhere to help the victims or to guard the First Aid workers who needed protection. Obviously they expected a massacre at sea, when they saw nothing they returned to Hobart.
(f) On his way to the Historic Site the gunman stopped to help some girls who had problems with their car. He told them of his intention to kill some WASPS [Wealthy Anglo-Saxon Protestants] the Isle of the Dead.
(g) On the very day Martin Bryant was being sentenced in Hobart, President Clinton was addressing the Australian Parliament in Canberra. Was he there to make sure poor Martin copped the blame for the massacre and that nothing went wrong with the gun confiscation scheme, which of course was the reason for the Port Arthur Massacre?"


* remember when 911 went down and at the time the then prime minister of australia john howard just happened to be in the US ?