'Teleprompter tells Obama when to cry' [Satire]

[mojo]

His recent speech on gun control. Even the tears were fake...The teleprompter tells Obama to cry at the 9:50 video mark. The whole three hours production is good but seeing the prompter saying "cry now" was an eye opener... can't even give up a real tear...

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[Octavusprime]

I don't see the proof of a teleprompter telling him to cry. That was just a graphic put up by Infowars.

[DeDukshyn]

 
"one of our graphics guys, Zimmerman, put together a satirical piece that, supposedly y'know, tells the teleprompter .. we'll show that in front of the screen ...<trim> telling Obama when to cry"

I don't have three hours for Alex. He's good for some people at some stages though, but to me he's a bit like a religion: "Give the masses a taste, then get them to keep exercising the same programmed judgements, hate and emotional reactions they have always clung to, so as to ensure nothing ever changes, as it is these qualities that ensures our control over them." - quote by me, pretending to be an "elite" - I think I'd make a damn good one honestly, if it weren't for my overbearing sense of objective disconnectedness and global responsibility. :)

[Karpos]

Don't know about this one. I just watched the video again. I believe he was sincerely emotional. He's clearly tearing up before he touched his eye, and then when the tears begin to flow they come out of both eyes at the same time. This idea that he acted/faked/tricked himself to cry is bogus in my book.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijFPMrptrwE

[rgray222]

Obama: playing golf after Foley beheading was bad 'optics'

Mr Obama now admits decision to go golfing minutes after commiserating with the nation over the beheading of US journalist James Foley looked bad, but offers no apology.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/11080525/Obama-playing-golf-after-Foley-beheading-was-bad-optics.html

Obama seems more concerned about "optics", more concerned with himself and his power, his legacy, his party and his politics, not about people. It is not even a stretch to believe the tears were staged.

[Kbrammcdonald]

I think this post belittles the argument and point Obama makes. Of course he's seriously sincere about what he's talking about. We need to take a step back and appreciate what the POTUS says and not apply it to conspiracy theories and alternative ideas.

[Kbrammcdonald]

He's a human being "just like all of us" on this forum and we shouldn't attack the fact that he showed emotion. We should celebrate that someone in office has a heart and wants to make the world a better place.

[Kbrammcdonald]

He shut down every conspiracy theory notion during his talk (yes you could say this is a conspiracy in itself but let's not look a gift horse in the mouth) and I think we are looking at one of the most honest and sincere presidents we've had yet. We shouldn't put him down. We should appreciate the stand he is taking.

[mojo]

Of course we can agree to disagree on how honest and sincere you feel he is...

[Fellow Aspirant]

Nope, I don't buy it, what Alex is accusing Obama of doing.

I think he is doing the only thing that a compassionate human being could do - cry when he is overwhelmed with sadness.

Obama's move to have background checks done EVEN AT GUNSHOWS!!! : o , and to provide more funding for treating the mentally ill (long overdue) is a faint attempt at doing something to slow the carnage of his fellow citizens - of all ages. That he has had to resort to an Executive Order to accomplish even this tiny glimmer of progress indicates just how desperate he has become in his desire to reign in the gun industry in his country. America's slow motion civil war shames the "gummint" members responsible for the state of paralysis that currently exists with respect to this scourge.

Course, that's just my opinion.

Brian

[boja]

A SINCERE president would disclose the ET Presence.

[KiwiElf]

He tried... he's not "allowed" to (yet) ... look what happened when Kennedy tried to disclose it? ;)

[Ewan]

He's a human being "just like all of us" on this forum and we shouldn't attack the fact that he showed emotion. We should celebrate that someone in office has a heart and wants to make the world a better place.

There are many types of humans, all have differing abilities and skill sets.

One particular groups of humans tend, as a whole, to be adept at mimicry. It was vital for them to develop this skill in order for them to blend in. They're loosely termed sociopaths. Not all of them are malicious, but the more malicious ones get bumped up a label to psychopath.

http://www.sociopathworld.com/2009/01/sociopaths-mimicry-and-blank-slates.html

You can see a very good portrayal of this kind of behaviour, by Nicole Kidman, in the film Malice.

It is my opinion that Obama is a consummate actor with great charisma and in all probability a sociopath.



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[Matt P]

Some of you think this man is sincere?? Holy cow, how naive. You think an actor can't cry on command?? Oh my lord, how naive. You think he is actually emotional about gun violence?? OK, stop it! Just stop it and grow up. This is theater! This is the man who has murdered more innocent men, women and children with his immoral drone strikes than any president in history!! You think he gets emotional and cries about all those human beings he has ordered murdered or maimed for life? They've bombed weddings, for gods sake! And that is just ONE of the many ways this man is murdering and terrorizing human beings...all over the damn world. How many other of the ways you need to be reminded of??! You forget all the false flags already??! Really??! I don't know if the tears were real or not but I surely don't watch professional wrestling and debate what aspects of it are real or not. Professional wrestling and politics are both the same: fake. And anyone who thinks a known criminal and murderer cares about a few serfs being killed in his game of false flags is...well...a little behind the curve. Apologies but it needed to be said.

Matt

[Debra]

Some of you think this man is sincere?? Holy cow, how naive. You think an actor can't cry on command?? Oh my lord, how naive. You think he is actually emotional about gun violence?? OK, stop it! Just stop it and grow up. This is theater!

.... Apologies but it needed to be said.

Matt

Yup, and say it again, no apologies necessary Matt. I think your discernment is spot on.

The tears I think were real but IMO he was working off a useful emotional memory connection that was personal from his own experience. I am convinced. I have trained people in acting to do this, except in this example and I watched it a few times, I am certain he was still polishing his act in front of a live audience. That is, he was still processing how to get there, searching for the right connection to bring to the script he was reading from, or being fed. There was no real sense of truth for me through his body or voice that he was truly connected to what he was saying.

Though I will say this, he did a better job than Robbie Parker after Newtown.

[Ahnung-quay]

Some here are suffering cognitive dissonance about Sandy Hook. Have you forgotten that Mr Obama posed for pictures with one of the supposed dead children after the shooting/psyop?
I don't believe anything he says or does.
In the video posted above, watch his mouth movements after each statement. Also, right before the tears there are few moments of setting the mood, an actor's trick for getting into character.

[Althena]

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[TargeT]

I think this post belittles the argument and point Obama makes. Of course he's seriously sincere about what he's talking about. We need to take a step back and appreciate what the POTUS says and not apply it to conspiracy theories and alternative ideas.

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the point he's trying to make is theatrical.

[WhiteLove]

Don't know about this one. I just watched the video again. I believe he was sincerely emotional. He's clearly tearing up before he touched his eye, and then when the tears begin to flow they come out of both eyes at the same time. This idea that he acted/faked/tricked himself to cry is bogus in my book.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijFPMrptrwE

He is sincerely emotional and that's good. Overall I find he has been in a different mode lately, maybe Obama is the guy that is going to put truth at the front seat at the end of his term, let's hope... He has everything to win on that, and nothing to lose... That's part of why I think it makes sense that he is at least considering it.

[Caliban]

As mpennery says above, how can you buy this man's tears when he's wreaked havoc with all those drone strikes? Children? Women? Innocent men? Anyone? If we see through Sandy Hook, you don't think Obama knows what happened there? Meaning what didn't happen.

It's all theater brothers and sisters. I saw through him from day one - I mean his first few rallies. Someone that "charismatic" should ring a thousand bells in our minds. I don't care if he cries, I don't care if he screams, I don't care if he shouts to the heavens. We know about Sandy Hook, we know about Boston. And so does he.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Some of you think this man is sincere?? Holy cow, how naive. You think an actor can't cry on command?? Oh my lord, how naive. You think he is actually emotional about gun violence?? OK, stop it! Just stop it and grow up. This is theater! This is the man who has murdered more innocent men, women and children with his immoral drone strikes than any president in history!! You think he gets emotional and cries about all those human beings he has ordered murdered or maimed for life? They've bombed weddings, for gods sake! And that is just ONE of the many ways this man is murdering and terrorizing human beings...all over the damn world. How many other of the ways you need to be reminded of??! You forget all the false flags already??! Really??! I don't know if the tears were real or not but I surely don't watch professional wrestling and debate what aspects of it are real or not. Professional wrestling and politics are both the same: fake. And anyone who thinks a known criminal and murderer cares about a few serfs being killed in his game of false flags is...well...a little behind the curve. Apologies but it needed to be said.

Matt

While I am well aware that many of the members of this forum consider President Obama to be some sort of modern Hitler/Satan/Stalin hybrid, (he may well be, for all I know) I would like to remind everyone that for the sake of our own legitimacy we should still try to maintain some sort of rational process in our thinking and claims. To wit: surely we of all groups, should recognize that just because some behaviour can be mimicked it does not follow that all people exhibiting such behaviour are faking it. i.e. If Obama cries, we cannot assume that he is lying about his emotions because some other person is able to cry on cue. This is non-sensical. It's the kind of irrational thinking that Stephen Basset points out as being false when he tries to deal with “debunkers” who claim that pictures or videos of strange vehicles in the sky must be false because it is possible to achieve the same imagery using photoshop. One fraud does not make them all frauds. Please think more clearly.

As far as war crimes are concerned, I am sure that Obama’s famous ‘signature strikes’ are responsible for the deaths of dozens of non-combatants, just as I am sure that G.W. Bush’s wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have killed hundreds of thousands of innocents. And the only reason why it's possible to claim that Obama has killed more people with drone strikes than anyone else in history is because no other president has had so many drones at his disposal. (Thanks military industrial complex). Obama's predecessors would have loved to have been able to use drones! So let’s not fool ourselves about these events. It’s what presidents of the United States do: they kill wantonly because of the country’s ‘just cause’ doctrine, which is sanctioned by the government and its people in order to keep Americans safe. It’s better to kill just about anyone as long as they are ‘over there’ in some strange country that is not the United States. One has only to examine the actions taken by every president from Roosevelt onward – and I don’t need to mention Harry Truman, I don’t think - to find numerous examples of such ‘executive actions’. To pretend that Obama is any better or worse in this regard is to engage in the highest order of naivete.

Brian

[ghostrider]

Slighty different take , I believe Obama is seeing the end of his presidency , knowing his hands are tied , he is under the thumb of the controllers ... the hopes of the Democratic party hung on his presidency and no matter what he does no one will be completely satisfied ... he knows he cannot defeat the NRA ...

[Hym]

It's an interesting thread, someone coming on an open and obviously alternative site and accusing those of applying a man's tears, as real as they were or not, "to conspiracy theories and alternative ideas". Those words define a large portion of this site's truths. Maybe someone is on the wrong site, except for the fact that all are welcome here. Being lost is a thing i plan often enough to keep my sanity and still have at least a thread of reality somewhere in the pile of thoughts scattered about, as something to be discovered when I least expect it.

Most here on this site are well studied in the economics, the intent, the psychology and the purpose of conspiracy and alternative ideas. These things are the first grade, the primer for many who bring a great deal of skepticism and experience into the discernment of political gain. I suggest you go back to Project Camelot and view the testimony of these experienced, professionals who expose those "conspiracy theories" you condemn in the face of an emotional play. And, in case you are lost somewhere on the internet, YOU ARE ON AN ALTERNATIVE SITE!

For a man who personally signs off on every drone strike, within a program that kills 97 innocent civilians for every 3 enemies dead he has no right to claim he cares about anyone's life. And, more to the point, if you cannot emote and cry at will you are not a good actor, a well experienced sociopath or a well trained liar. In his case he is all of these.

My question to you is when did you develop a trust in government officials and how new are you to reading and viewing DavidIcke.com? Government can serve well if it is served by those with honesty who owe nothing to corporate interests, but everything to everyone else equally. Someone's got some long research to do here if they want to engage in a discourse based on all we have learned over years of study and personal experiences. It is the reason, initially, why many did not respond to the discourse in this thread. It misses the point entirely, when the acting was used to pull on the emotions and implement a series of immoral dictates upon both the ignorant and the aware alike, as usual.

I wouldn't have named the thread the way it was listed without real video proof, and especially it all coming from an in your face emotional manipulator like AJ. I sure would have listed the impact of a killer emoting on cue, prompted by his own personal energetics, most likely, and probably not written on a teleprompter, all the while cherry-picking the value of lives in the states over those in other lands that he is either responsible for ending, or is compliant with ending, by his silence. All of this while being a man who took an oath to defend the properties of lawful actions and speak out against unlawful activities, foreign or domestic, as outlined in the constitution. Criminal by definition. ( i could say the M.F'er doesn't give a F...either way, but I'd only say that in the company of close friends who've lived in the hells I've been in...)

If you represent a country you are it's actions, unless you account for the dishonesty openly and tell the truth of who pulls the strings, if it is not your command and control. Eisenhower, in all of his hypocrisy and murderous wartime and post war actions against civilians, warned us about the developing control systems at hand when he initially called it the "military, industrial, congressional complex" (later to call it the military industrial complex). That is something to take seriously coming from a mass murderer. I'm sure it had a lot to do with corporations controlling the emerging, newly presented technology that would define a series of new paradigms of control and command within and without the military, industrial, congressional complex. Silence is often criminal when considering politicians, just as an oath to dishonesty is also a criminal act.

I know of no one here who considers that man in that house stalin, hitler or satan, but they do consider him much the same leader as others.

I must note that i am not the only one here who goes off topic. You are in the company of us all doing our best to educate, inform, inspire and challenge each other. I appreciate the efforts of all here, knowing how uninformed I was, much more than anyone ever has been here and, knowing that, I'm positive there is a world of living I've yet to discover, inspired by self-acceptance. May I be as honoring of my humanity as I am of others and allow the growth within and without.

[guayabal]

Crocodile tears.

[Hym]

Precisely, Sir Guayabal. And crocodiles don't cry.

[guayabal]

Precisely, Sir Guayabal. And crocodiles don't cry.
yeah, that goes with the saying too, it appears they do but they don't, they are probably just salivating.

[T Smith]

Some of you think this man is sincere?? Holy cow, how naive. You think an actor can't cry on command?? Oh my lord, how naive. You think he is actually emotional about gun violence?? OK, stop it! Just stop it and grow up. This is theater! This is the man who has murdered more innocent men, women and children with his immoral drone strikes than any president in history!! You think he gets emotional and cries about all those human beings he has ordered murdered or maimed for life? They've bombed weddings, for gods sake! And that is just ONE of the many ways this man is murdering and terrorizing human beings...all over the damn world. How many other of the ways you need to be reminded of??! You forget all the false flags already??! Really??! I don't know if the tears were real or not but I surely don't watch professional wrestling and debate what aspects of it are real or not. Professional wrestling and politics are both the same: fake. And anyone who thinks a known criminal and murderer cares about a few serfs being killed in his game of false flags is...well...a little behind the curve. Apologies but it needed to be said.

Matt

While I am well aware that many of the members of this forum consider President Obama to be some sort of modern Hitler/Satan/Stalin hybrid, (he may well be, for all I know) I would like to remind everyone that for the sake of our own legitimacy we should still try to maintain some sort of rational process in our thinking and claims. To wit: surely we of all groups, should recognize that just because some behaviour can be mimicked it does not follow that all people exhibiting such behaviour are faking it. i.e. If Obama cries, we cannot assume that he is lying about his emotions because some other person is able to cry on cue. This is non-sensical. It's the kind of irrational thinking that Stephen Basset points out as being false when he tries to deal with “debunkers” who claim that pictures or videos of strange vehicles in the sky must be false because it is possible to achieve the same imagery using photoshop. One fraud does not make them all frauds. Please think more clearly.

As far as war crimes are concerned, I am sure that Obama’s famous ‘signature strikes’ are responsible for the deaths of dozens of non-combatants, just as I am sure that G.W. Bush’s wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have killed hundreds of thousands of innocents. And the only reason why it's possible to claim that Obama has killed more people with drone strikes than anyone else in history is because no other president has had so many drones at his disposal. (Thanks military industrial complex). Obama's predecessors would have loved to have been able to use drones! So let’s not fool ourselves about these events. It’s what presidents of the United States do: they kill wantonly because of the country’s ‘just cause’ doctrine, which is sanctioned by the government and its people in order to keep Americans safe. It’s better to kill just about anyone as long as they are ‘over there’ in some strange country that is not the United States. One has only to examine the actions taken by every president from Roosevelt onward – and I don’t need to mention Harry Truman, I don’t think - to find numerous examples of such ‘executive actions’. To pretend that Obama is any better or worse in this regard is to engage in the highest order of naivete.

Brian

I find it difficult to draw a connection between the actions of other POTUS with the point to which you are responding. Unless I am completely misreading the exchange, the OP is not drawing the conclusion that Obama is better or worse than his predecessors in power, but rather employs a relative comparison to point out the absolute absurdity of the President's feigned empathy given his proclivity to snuff out--and I will correct you, not dozens--but hundreds and even thousands of innocent lives, among them, no doubt, countless "1st graders" all over the world. The cognitive disonance of beholding these facts next to this piece of theater is nothing less than astounding. But you need not take this sobering perspective to heart, nor even condone the murder of thousands of innocent lives simply because "that's what Presidents do", ... look no further than Barack Obama's own boastful words, and I quote:

"....Turns out I'm really good at killing people. Didn't know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine." Barack Hussein Obama

Nah. Call me nonsensical, but.... Sorry. I'm just not buying the tears...

[WhiteLove]

As mpennery says above, how can you buy this man's tears when he's wreaked havoc with all those drone strikes? Children? Women? Innocent men? Anyone? If we see through Sandy Hook, you don't think Obama knows what happened there? Meaning what didn't happen.


It's because I am able to go beyond that and understand it both from an absolute point of view but also from a relative more limited point of view, both in isolation. It means I can understand why from his life perspective when he becomes so emotional about losing the life of a child vs. the cruelty of sending young soldiers to die and lose parts of their bodies in the Middle East. I have compassion for his authenticity about becoming emotional and I don't have compassion for the fact that he sends soldiers to their death in war - but I have the understanding that this can logically be the result of becoming detached from the truth and letting the negative ego dictate the actions in that state of confusion. It is because I evaluate these two in isolation, that I can understand those emotions and I think they are true in that isolated context. It's not coming from some kind of overall evaluation, humans are humans.

One reason why I think this can cause emotions in him also is that he might feel trapped - he might want to fight for the truth, but he realizes that could mean the loss of his whole family - as I think that might very well be how the dark force plays the cards in order to keep the corruption at the levels they are. In the dark world that is a "shoot to kill order". And I think that those associations are very difficult to deal with in his position and then when children around him die to realize those fears he feels about his own family (maybe even having inside informatio n about the fact that it is a signal directed towards him), then it becomes too much to handle, he might feel stuck with the idea that you cannot have both the uncovering of truth and creation of peace, and the security of your family, that one sacrifices the other.

This is an example about the damage that corruption causes today, that the fears it is projecting forces forced actions/psychological traps towards actions that create high density negative polarity in the society.

Please remember the complexity involved here, not as an excuse, but just so that you can keep both the absolute and relative perspectives in clearity and isolation.

[Hym]

In light of your insights maybe i should re-evaluate considering the man a sociopath. His ability to isolate his humanity is the sure sign of a psychopath. I do understand how you can understand that separation of emotional connection, but that is your humanity, certainly not his. Thanks for the clarity, reminding me that even though many narcissists aren't psychopaths, all psychopaths are narcissists.

Juicers always hidin' getting the juice, players bored with the play and makin' up a new game to stay awake in the act, always smilin', so insecure he needs to remind you how cool he really is.... I hoped for a Dr.Cornell West and just got Barry goin' from kneeling in the back seat of a Ford for some blow, to liftin' up a man skirt in Riyahd in the back of a limo, and all for that Stroke......Hell, George did it.....more often than he could swallow....

He'd say psychopath is harsh, even for him acknowledging who he really is. Maybe he's the one who's right. You need to see things from his perspective. Isolate your emotions....Players playin'.......He's so much a clinton and a bush, where blow has more reality than just a meaning of this or that......Maybe you could get a chance to share a joy stick with him, playin' the game remotely from thousands of miles away.....How cool would that be.......Players playin'....Gamers gamin'.....

[Caliban]

Please remember the complexity involved here, not as an excuse, but just so that you can keep both the absolute and relative perspectives in clearity and isolation.

WhiteLove, I do appreciate your expanded vision and I'm sure it serves you well in many areas of your life.

Who knows -- maybe he was "really" crying, really sad. But if so, it was likely about his sold-out life and all the games he played to get where he got. If we're all right in our views about Sandy Hook, then in a sense that's Worse than his drone strikes--because there's complicity in distorting our entire collective experience of reality. I don't even know how to categorize that.

As Dylan said, "the hour is getting late," and I think we're beyond needing to understand the complexity involved here. Eisenhower told us what was happening sixty years ago. How much more time do we require?

[WhiteLove]

As Dylan said, "the hour is getting late," and I think we're beyond needing to understand the complexity involved here. Eisenhower told us what was happening sixty years ago. How much more time do we require?

Yes I do agree about that, that's why I wanted to point out that what I said was not meant to be an excuse, technically the question was whether it was real tears or not, and so I just tried to explain why I thought it was real tears and the fact that I would not admit that if I would have put my own interests into that evaluation, then I would have explained the tears according to the explanation I wanted it to be like, rather than how it really was, hence I would have not understood it all as truthfully due to the various perspectives blending into one. Then I would probably have agreed that he was just faking the tears, when in fact that was not the entire truth.

I think that presidents of today have absolutely no clue of what's really going on. They are working in a box of limitation, from a heavily manipulated/twisted perspective projected onto them, that's partly also why I can understand this from a relative perspective. In all off this then morphs classic human nature such as fear, negative ego etc. into the picture. This in conjunction with certain conservative/historical perspectives/influences makes it all incredibly slow and detached. At some point that morphs into confusion due to the emotion of it. So you see these various attempts of him trying to force change by using certain special things he is authorized and legally can do. I think that's mostly what he is able to do, but beyond that in terms of everything that could really impact things profoundly and quickly, that is probably either very dangerous or technically very difficult (because it is illegal). I'm not saying there are not ways to handle that, in fact I think there are, I am also not saying this as an excuse he should be using, because he shouldn't, I am just pointing out that authorization limitations and procedures setup by those behind the scenes play a very big role in all of this. That's the whole point, it more or less requires a leader that is ready to die for his friend, one that challenges anything on the path to truth - one that breaks and violates rules and limitations beyond what's technically legal, one law at a time towards the truth. But I believe leaders can be like that. And I believe it would be great for world peace that those kinds of leaders would be elected, since the corruption has gone far and deeply into the legal framework on a global scale. A skilled lawyer such as Obama probably always deals with this kind of stuff from a legal risk reward point of view, the mentality of such a person is totally different than a person that just goes all in due to his/her level of integrity, value and spiritual orientation. I think we have hence seen the impacts of a lawyer in a lawyer mode. The powers behind the scene have probably loved that... But even when the courage of taking it to the level I mentioned is not there, emotions can be real. And I think they are in this case.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Well, let's see ...

In an effort to try to clear up some misinterpretations of my intent, I'd like to state categorically that I would never try to find excuses for Obama's bombing. I was only pointing out that one should not be surprised by his murderous acts as he is in a postion of power where such acts are not only condoned, but, historically, expected. So I guess that speaks to my lack of naivete. 'Real Politic' is not new, so let's stay grounded and not suspect anyone of cognitive dissonance through a misunderstanding of his or her world view. I personally find this offensive. And while one murder is one too many, I disagree that his crimes are anything on the scale of several of his predecessors - especially Harry Truman - so we should not hold him in any greater contempt than anyone else who has had to function in his office. The job demands include commanding of the use of lethal power. As far as drones strikes are concerned, the number of innocent victims will always be in dispute, but I've not seen any figures that would approach 5 000 in all theatres. Label me a cynic or a skeptic if you like, but I'd prefer that you not question my state of awareness. And for the record, Mr. Icke is a personal hero of mine.

Obama's crocodile tears? We will never know either. We can make good guesses as to his state of mind at any given moment, but we are really not in a position to make a definitive ruling on such matters. Actor he must be, as he is an experienced politician, but the core of acting is being able to create an internal state that matches with the character being portrayed. A good actor will always hold the emotions appropriate to the moment. It's part of the communication process. My stance is that sometimes tears are tears.

So, in future, I would request that the members of this forum resist the temptation to get into a "pi**ing match" regarding the awareness of any other members. Second guessing Obama may seem easy, but it is a field fraught with rabbit holes. The same applies with us. We all have unique perspectives, and we should respect them, rather than accusing anyone of suffering from 'cognitive dissonance'.

For all anyone knows, my true identity could be that of an NSA disinformation shill. Or an A.I. entity. Hell, our whole reality could be being played out in a giant computer on a different plane (brane?). No matter what we 'discern' or 'resonate with', the bare fact is that reality is always more complicated than we can know, at least from our limited points of view. As Richard Alan Miller likes to say, gesturing with his hand to grasp at a point in mid air, "It's ... just there ...".

We may love to "indulge in high octane speculation", as a wise man once said, as a way to connect dots, but to consider that one has the ultimate high ground when it comes to the truth makes one very easy prey for the ones watching from the levels just above.

Being sure of an illusion is a reckless thing to do. Like my friend says ...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=32528&cid=1&stc=1

Namaste, All

[Ahnung-quay]

I'll stick to my opinion. Thank you.

[Foxie Loxie]

I believe it because my conman "ex" could turn on the tears in order to make people feel sorry for him & bring in the money!!

[Octavusprime]

The title is very misleading. End of story. If you say Obama is told by a teleprompter to cry then I would expect proof of such act. The thread (title) is simple dishonesty in written communication. Avalon is "where science and spirituality meet". Science requires proof or theory with evidence. Just because alternative news and/or views are presented on this forum doesn't mean we can just make things up to fit our opinions. Hence the backlash.

[mojo]

It was a simple mistake on my part not realizing that the prompter was satire. But of course you come back and post a second time to voice your dislike. But also to be judge of my integrity and motive which is above your pay scale.

[Octavusprime]

Thank you, now we know that it was a mistake. I believe there are ways to change the title if one chose to do so.

[Debra]

I cannot understand how people just can't read inauthenticity ...

In this instance, captured on video, I see an inauthentic human. He is hiding and he is acting, enough to shake out a tear, which many are automatically reading .. Oh he is crying. No he is not crying for you, me and 'those 1st graders at Sandy Hook. Which in my understanding didn't even happen and this guy was hot on the ground as part of this subterfuge from the word get go.

Geeezus, even before the Sandy Hook False flag evidence began, just seeing the father character Robbie Palmer start a live interview .. I knew I was looking at a whole cast of people putting on a really bad play. Bad theatre. What are people missing that they cannot just see this kind of evidence?

Good actors have the human capacity to give good performances that authentically connect with the human condition and we suspend our disbelief because we are watching a fiction.

So, playing with real life .. That's another dimension and not so easy folks. Obama fails for me every time. The crisis actors of Newtown were even worse.

I smelled Obama when he was first rolled out as the first black president. It just didn't make sense to me, there was something not right ... And yeah, as the years rolled on, I was right.

I go with my gut.

Not forgetting the larger context of this president's history already.

The man has not momentarily evolved, not yet, absolutely not yet from what I am seeing and I am astounded there is this gap in what others are seeing.

[Innocent Warrior]

@Zebra - it's trust, misplaced trust blinds us in the most discrete ways.

[Debra]

@Zebra - it's trust, misplaced trust blinds us in the most discrete ways.

Good point Rachel. Trust it seems is only broken when people are personally effected, wise up and wake up. Also, I can understand if trust has been many years in the making, or programming, it creates a belief system that becomes closed .. Hard to let go of that.

Still, whether the issue of a TelePrompTer or not, what he says and how he says it ... still dead giveaways, from my PoV.

[Ewan]

And trust must be linked to belief. Your beliefs are a core part of you. When your beliefs are shattered by incontrovertible evidence you are left in a void which is usually experienced as very uncomfortable, when in actual fact it is truly peaceful.

That is why most fight hard to protect their beliefs. The ego does not know what to do with peace.

[Octavusprime]

Just to be clear. My problem is with the misleading title not the content. Mojo has stated it was a mistake so I really hope he/she does the right thing and changes it. We should hold ourselves and others to a certain degree of integrity here at Avalon. I have no misguided trust for politicians.

[Hervé]

Title changed to : 'Teleprompter tells Obama when to cry' [Satire] (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88063-Teleprompter-tells-Obama-when-to-cry-Satire)