Which practical method do you think is most likely to bring positive change to the world?

[Lochinvar]

According to the Art of War to defeat your enemy you need to identify them and disrupt their strategy. So which method from the list do you think best achieves this? It will be a combination of these but I didn't include the cop out...."Yeah..some of them" so ask which you think is most effective.

[Lochinvar]

I maybe should have included "Exposing the strategy". A large part of the strategy of enslavement is Agenda 21 (which keeps changing it's name (a moving target) have you noticed this?). It's rarely spoken about except on here and other places like it.

[TargeT]

It's a bit depressing once you learn of it, but it's great knowledge that will let you be much more accepting about the world.

after about 10 years old you're going to have a hard time changing the programming of a human & the stronger the belief in that programming the harder it will be to get out because the believer will defend it, sometimes violently.

the first 5 min or so of this video are amazing (well the whole thing is really) at explaining how our brains work especially when handling strongly held beliefs... understanding this will answer the question: why hasn't the world changed for the better

dbh5l0b2-0o

[Sunny-side-up]

Like TargeT said we are all programmed from an early age, the older you get, especially past a certain age the harder it will be for you change.
That is while most of your effort in trying to change people will fall on deaf ears :(

If someone is willing to talk about anything you find in Avalon, well they are already there or should I say here!

Out of your list you will already talk to people you meet, so I have chosen Meditation but, by meditation I don't mean classical Meditation but do anything that helps raise your vibs and overall self!
People feel your vib when you are in good vib, and will talk :)

Plus I do believe in ET's/Beings from elsewhere/times, and they will like your higher vibs as-well.

One other thing I will say:
What ever you do don't do aggressive actions, unless things get to the point where there are such physical Revolution's taking place and there is no alternative. Join Organized groups, don't do aggressive acts on your own, or you will be lost, you will be as they would have you be.

Quickley looking at the Poll results so far, I see you are very civilized and running on higher Vibs already :sun:

[Andynko]

One of the simplest examples / methods to demonstrate displeasure with the system, would be (if possible) to get all the people to only but petroleum from a single oil company, or to only buy your gas and electricity for a simgle company / supplier.

Not only would this bring all the competition to the negotiating table, it would also (as Lochinvar said) disrupt their strategy and method of control.

Simply put as a majority we have that basic power of of influence to disrupt the financial system and create change this way.

[Hervé]

...

Education

[Lochinvar]

I wouldn't try to persuade anyone about what is going on. It involves an emotional attachment to the outcome which is a recipe for disaster when you're dealing with their operating system. Instead I just see my role as telling folk that I worked in the UK parliament where my job was to make voting meaningless. Most of the time the response is that that is not what I did. I usually leave it there in those cases.

I think the main problem in the world is one person telling another what to do. I prefer to lead myself.

[Andynko]

In total agreement Herve, but in our current society the educational system has become corrupted by the very same system to disguise the mechanisms of control wouldn't you agree?

[Lochinvar]

When you say "Education" do you mean talking to people you meet, posting on the internet or some other way?

[Hervé]

Well, I just answer the question as qualified...


Other - please state concisely


...

Education


In total agreement Herve, but in our current society the educational system has become corrupted by the very same system to disguise the mechanisms of control wouldn't you agree?

How did you learn how the system got skewed... isn't it through educating yourself?

[Lochinvar]

So to clarify you're saying the most effective method of bringing change is to educate yourself?

[risveglio]

I think you need to combine a few of these. These polls need some help. They are like FOX/CNN polls, misleading and trying to guide us all to their answer.

Meditation - I hear meditation is wonderful but other than repeating a prayer over and over, I have not had the patience to meditate but it seems to be one of many activities of the happier / more successful people I know.

Hacking computer systems - Guess that depends on what you are hacking and how many people see behind the curtain.

Telling people about ET's - I know nothing about ETs so please share

Taking to the streets - Just gonna get you killed unless you have a mass amount of people and usually when you have mass crowds, they are complaining about the wrong thing, at least here in the US.

Not paying tax/registering to vote - I don't really pay taxes, they take mine. Voting or not voting makes little difference unless you wake up a lot more people.

Posting on the internet - If your posts makes sense and wake up people, this is probably one of the more effective ways since you can reach far more people.

Talking to people you meet - Makes sense

Petitions/writing to representatives - If you wake enough people up this can help to expose the game, but you need to find the right representative. I guess this is where statists and I disagree but if enough people are truly "awake" and pay attention, then it could be conceivable that a government could exist.

Revolution - I'd love to hear the plan.

So I guess all of the above?

[Lochinvar]

In my struggle to find the perfect poll I was asking which you think is most effective method to bring change. If it's not listed you can click "other" and tell us.

[moekatz]

If the premise is true that by 10 years old a human in effectively "LOST" in belief systems imposed by authority figures i.e. parents, teachers, school, religion, outside forces, then there is no way but to start over. I've spoken with people in their 90's who refused to open themselves to a new way of thinking until the very last weeks of their lives. I have to ask how much time is a person allowed in an incarnation to become aware of their involvement in promoting the status quo? In middle age, when the pressures of the system of earning a living really are felt, most people I interfaced with always said, "just don't mess with my paycheck." We are on individual journeys but our mere existence lends credence to the man-made systems we live under. In the USA, we all are on a material quest. Our desires for the newest technology, to upgrade our personal material systems, to re-decorate our homes and buy the latest autos even if the excuse is going electric, overpowers most of us. I remember a classroom assignment in the 7th grade (1957) asking us to make a list of the things we would take into a fallout shelter if the atom bomb was about to be dropped. My first thing was: MAKEUP. So sad!!

[Lochinvar]

"Makeup"...lol... great post! Hey if the makeup had iodine in it you would've been fine.....

[Meggings]

Practical methods - perhaps this book might help in some instances? Notice of it came to me today - I have not read it. Part of the Amazon blurb for it is:

" A few of the 15 questions asked: * How do you see the world today in terms of the challenges facing us? * What are your thoughts about money and the global banks? * What is your opinion on vaccines? * Do chemtrails exist and if so, why are we being sprayed? * Seeing the madness around me, can you suggest ways to regain my trust in the future and how to act to make a positive change?"

It is on Amazon. Perhaps it only poses questions, and not answers - I cannot say.
So What Can I Do?: Answers from inspired researchers around the world today (Volume 1)
Paperback – December 29, 2015

http://www.amazon.com/So-What-Can-Do-researchers/dp/1522711260/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1452273685&sr=1-1&keywords=%22so+what+can+i+do%22

[Lochinvar]

Thanks Meggings. Worth a look. What are your views on how to effect change?

[mojo]

Thank you for the post and can tell you tried to put some thought into it. Sometimes polls can determine the direction of the macrocosm (public) through a question (poll) in the microcosm (forum). In regards to affecting change all the points you covered likely help on some level. But imo the person that can have real peace through any situation can profoundly affect.

[Agape]

All of the above practised conscientiously except for those sad cases who end up in the madhouse . I abstain :bigsmile:

Putting my right finger on the touchpad me thinks perhaps we are only finger away from the change we so need , an inch away from the right solution ,
and yet ...as if in accordance with the Heisenberg principle of uncertainty the moment we are almost there ..we lost it .
Why because the greater reality rebounces itself in space time in periodic waves and what we perceive as 'presence' and 'us' are but remnants of the previous ripple of space time .
Sometimes , we seem to 'ride the wave' even if we know we are bound to fall off at its deep ends ..


we live in what we call 'unconsciousness' in relation to the powers of the Universe and the Universe seems to be quite unconscious of us .


:cat:

[Matthew]

I might be breaking the rules here but I hope I can wangle it

My answer is a combo move. I put meditation and/or emotional self development as most important but don't believe it is enough.

Introspection, legal protest and raising the profile of the issues best one can with friends/family etc (<-not easy or always possible)

This is the combination from the list

Meditation
- and or emotional self development
.
Plus one or more of..
.
Taking to the streets
Posting on the internet
Talking to people you meet
Petitions/writing to representatives


I've collapsed under the weight of my own answer. But I hope my post makes sense :)

[betoobig]

I voted "other"...
Change looks in our hands but it is not. The decision for change is been taken by the Unified field, conciousness or God.. Called as you wish, what we can do is accelerate the change..."may take a week, may take longer" (Jim Morrison) and for that matter all the rest of the actions are valid, specially meditation and just being kind to everyone (humans, animals, vegetables, minerals.... Even things) people is going to change no aparent reason. We'll get the next scenario: an increased in the amplitud of conciousness plus free energy.... This is unstopable.
So much love to all...
Disclamer: this is my opinion.

[Lochinvar]

someone mentions Heisenberg and the next poster comes on called YoYoYo.....it's like an episode of Breaking Bad....should one of the options have been chrystal meth?

[6pounder]

Tho internet is the best tool we have today to push the truth out and make people aware, I think the first step starts with education. Not sending your kids to the education system could be a start. Growing up a new generation is a tool and a key to fight the system.

[Hervé]

[...]
... Growing up a new generation is a tool and a key to fight the system.

Cool! ... and you do that without educating that new generation in how to defeat that system?

[Meggings]

Thanks Meggings. Worth a look. What are your views on how to effect change?

Since you ask, I believe it is to be the Christ in manifestation here and now, in these bodies we wear, on this earth.

To get there, one cares for the physical vehicle to the best of one's ability, avoiding toxins in water and food and air.
One feeds one's attention with the best food one can find, which to me are things that speak of higher truths.

It is rather like this quote: "...whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."

There is a lovely little story I read once about Jacob and the spotted calves in the Old Testament that deeply struck me as a child. The only wages that Jacob asked for from his years of service was to have all the spotted calves and goats. Thus he put spotted and streaked sticks in the gutters before the eyes of the cattle and goats when they conceived, and these animals brought forth spotted and streaked offspring - which became the wages Jacob had asked for.

The meaning of this is that what we gaze upon, is what we give birth to.

[Bubu]

after about 10 years old you're going to have a hard time changing the programming of a human & the stronger the belief in that programming the harder it will be to get out because the believer will defend it, sometimes violently.

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That is why its important that we should be discussing to young people what we been discussing here on Avalon. Last night 9 of the grade tens spent the night in our house supposedly to do some school project. I enjoyed the laughter and shouting but what really made my day is when I overheard them discussing that the Illuminati is a demonic cult. Surprise surprise.

[DeDukshyn]

 
I voted meditation, but I do believe in other very simple and practical methods that aren't in the poll list.

I'll post back to this thread to introduce - re-introduce my thoughts on the importance of meditations and how it can potentially be effective to create positive change. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?83971-Why-you-need-to-start-meditation-now-&p=982277&viewfull=1#post982277

The great thing with meditation is anyone can do it. Nothing too special required, just application and consistency.

This is a good reminder, I need to follow up in that thread ... now is almost the right time to do so, thanks for the trigger OP! :)

[Bubu]

tuning or raising your vibes whichever way that accomplish it. I found out that when my vibes is good I also make the right decisions and was lead to correct directions. To others it may come with meditation for me simply going to nature does the trick also taking time out many times each day to remind myself to slow down to have no fear to show love humility and other good virtues. Inhale..... Exhale. "the breath is the key". Change in the collective is a result of changes of individuals that makes up the collective.

[ghostrider]

I voted other , my reason , everyone on earth learning and knowing true earth history ... it keeps us from repeating mistakes at crucial times , it would end wars over religion , and end the destruction of the planets flora and fauna , and many other things ...

[Hervé]

...

... ... even "meditation" or any of the above mentioned requires "education"...
ed•u•ca•tion
(ˌɛdʒ ʊˈkeɪ ʃən)
n. 1. the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge and of developing the powers of reasoning and judgment.
2. the act or process of imparting or acquiring particular knowledge or skills, as for a profession.
3. a degree, level, or kind of schooling: a college education.
4. the result produced by instruction, training, or study.
5. the science or art of teaching; pedagogics.

[1525–35; (< Middle French) < Latin]
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.

ed·u·ca·tion
(ĕj′ə-kā′shən)n.1. The act or process of educating or being educated.
2. The knowledge or skill obtained or developed by a learning process.
3. A program of instruction of a specified kind or level: driver education; a college education.
4. The field of study that is concerned with the pedagogy of teaching and learning.
5. An instructive or enlightening experience: Her work in an animal shelter was a real education.

American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2011 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.

[6pounder]

[...]
... Growing up a new generation is a tool and a key to fight the system.

Cool! ... and you do that without educating that new generation in how to defeat that system?

You give them education from home and teach them what's going on in the world

[Jane Tripp]

A very interesting poll, but frustrating as well. It's difficult to select any one method as being the best strategy as they all obviously have value, and to make positive change happen requires a concerted effort using many different tactics, and spreading as much info as possible everywhere is definitely key to world-change.
But that's my assessment at an intellectual level, so in the end I had to choose meditation. It's a bit generalized, but I think that raising our own consciousness (which I believe provides the map for every individual's unique and personal journey into multi-dimensional consciousness and ultimate freedom through Love) and expressing love perhaps does more to impulse other people into greater awareness than anything else.

[Jane Tripp]

That's so true, and it's what I tried (and hopefully at least partly managed) to do for my 3 beautiful children. I had the pleasure of watching them become very aware and wise (many times a lot wiser than me) and also awaken many of their wonderful friends over the years into new understandings about life and it's meanings. Sometimes it seems like a long road here on Earth, but every single person who is touched in this way and is ready continues awakening and will usually go on to benefit others. It's spiritual multi-level marketing, the only sort that works! And the truth is so very important, even if it's not nice. Teaching how to discriminate between truth and lies is a good skill to pass on.

[lucidity]

How about...

Slowly adding telepathy genes into humans so that over a period of decades or generations:
=> lying is always visible to (at least some % of) other people.
=> good intentions are visible to other people
=> criminals are always caught
=> psychopaths stick out like a sore thumb

I think that would make the world a better place.

However, i'm not suggesting we hybridize
humans with other alien races.

be happy

lucidity

[Lochinvar]

So....
Educating folk by POSTING on INTERNET (option 6)?
Educating folk by TALKING to PEOPLE (option 7)?
Educating folk OTHER (option 10)?

Do you find cutting and pasting dictionaries is effective in bringing change Herve?

[Hervé]

When it helps bring an understanding of what's being meant :)

(see this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87842-Words-Meanings-Hallucinations-Dramatizations-And-The-Programming-Of-A-Planet) <--- re what I mean)

[Innocent Warrior]

Other - Whatever it is in your heart to do, it all makes for a better world.

[Clear Light]

Oh, I voted for "Other" because the phrase which I consider best sums up bringing positive change to the world is "Self realisation" ...

[Joey]

Chosen option: Put people out of the state of cognitive dissonance.

My illustration about this point:

Once upon a time everybody was relatively happy and things seems pretty okay. Then there where some wars and people did really matter. But they reminded themselves, well it's far away and I can't really do anything about it. In the best situation they found that they could sent some money via a charity. Because they felt really sorry for all those people. Slowly things where going worse and more wars started to happen. Also there where more stories about climate change and pollution. Well they thought to themselves: I can do some things in order to save energy and consume a little bit less: I can buy this car and I can buy these stuff, they say it's ecologically safe! In this way they could just live their life the way they did AND do something about this climate change. Jeej!!

Then something really bad happened: A terrorist attack! It was all over the news and people where really shocked. The images where very graphic and people really got scared. So what they did is they raised their voice. The government has to get these bad guys. They are threatening our freedom and safety. Look what they did to these innocent people! And so the government went after these bad guys and people felt protected. So they could go on with their lives again and that is what they wished most in the end.

And if new elections came out, they would sincerely follow the newest update and make a very considered vote. They where very honest people and they wanted the best for their country, just like the government does. So they could go back to their old life, just go on the way they did before. Everybody was happy again.

Eventually there is a big economic crisis. People were very shocked! But luckily the government is very smart and worked out a perfect plan in order to save us. We have to pay more taxes and some jobs have to go, but we have a lot of fate that everything will be fine in a couple of years. So they where happy again and they could go on with their lives again.

And this just goes on and on. Ooooon and on. You know, really deep down everybody just wants to be happy and go on with their life again. They don’t want to face the truth and THEY DON’T WANT TO ACT. They really, really don’t. In fact most people will put their head in the sand until they die.

And everybody just want a life of peace and prosperity. Everybody wants to trust the people around them and have faith. Everybody wants a good life, a healthy earth, happy animals and a good future.The thing is.. the world we live in today is not this place. And a lot of people just don’t WANT to handle that. They don’t want to feel miserable. They don’t want to look at reality because it is just too damn awful.

What I think could be a solution to wake other people up? Well I think waking up other people is one of the most hard things there can be done. First one has to wake up himself, which is a very painful process. One has to look to the world and look into the awful world of deception, manipulation, psychopaths, alien agendas, etc.

And one has to be careful to not fall in a trap. Because there are a lot of insidious traps down the way.

THEN, when someone is relatively awake, he feels split between two worlds. His own view against the view of the masses. Those views can be so different that we are almost talking about two different worlds here!

And then, this guy, feeling deeply with the pain and suffering on this planet. Will start to tell other people about the things he learned. He will start to tell people about the psychopaths, about the banksters, about possible alien manipulation and all other subjects he came across. He will tell them about possible free energy, about how to properly eat, how to realise your goals, about spirituality, meditation and all other relevant things.

And the people feel very akward around him. People will ridicule him. They will call him names. They will fight him or just ignore him. They will look for all sorts of ways in order to get him down.

And still, I believe this is the only possibility. Because this guy will eventually find people who will find an inner resonance with this. And they will start the same process. And you know, we as a collective have to face our problems. We have to get to the root of our issues. Because there can be no solution if the problems are not faced. First you have to have a clear understanding of the problem and from there the solluction can arise.

There is no way out. We have to realign with reality in order to save this planet.

[Valley]

What an excellent question... Thanks for this thread.

Guess we can just respond with 'our own' 'creative' answer/s too... That's my first suggestion actually... To focus more on being creatively focused, as opposed to being 'observationally focused'. Keep the 'observation mode' active, yet focus more actively on 'forward-thinking' ideas and actions. Or, in other words, focus more on becoming the 'master' of our own minds, so that we will be less of a 'subject' to them. Whenever we 'engage' in creatively centered activities... like creative writing, yoga, speaking, 'playing', dancing, gardening, starting new projects... etc. ...It is those kinds of activities that serve to activate us into 'taking back control' of our own minds, which should automatically reduce any 'conditioned brainwashing' of limiting ideas we've been programmed with by a corrupted society. We need to be more 'active', and less 'stagnant' in our own thinking... more 'energized' and less 'deflated'.

Meditation/chanting/singing/musical instruments are also excellent mind-focusing tools, too.

I just saw a book in a thrift shop today titled something like, "The History of Dancing In the Streets".... Now that's an idea, "dancing in the streets". :)...'Skip-stepping' ourselves forward into new ways of thinking/being.

Happy 'Stepping'...

[samildamach]

I sincerely believe the world gets what we tell the universe we want by the power of are thoughts.energy goes were are thoughts are and create that reality.
Experiments have been done and indicate change can be made with focused thought.could we organise such an experiment using the net and grow in numbers and use are positive thoughts and energy like an lance to a boil

[Savannah]

This poll uses what we call in testing, Forced Choice, you are forced to choose one answer when in fact participants may have felt more than one answer was correct. It’s used because it forces you to choose the one you identify with the most. IMO what is most likely to bring positive change to the world is perhaps a process and not one specific action. IF and that is a big IF, there is any truth to the fact that the universe according to Dewy Larsen is moving toward the Galactic Center that would bring in more etheric energy, change may happen automatically and my perceptions on what actions are necessary would also change. Either way it seems that waking up to the reality of the Matrix and the higher self is the first stage of change. Change can occur through a personal event that can be facilitated by education, the internet, books, exposure to others protesting, traumatic or spiritual experiences to name a few. I thought I was awake only to realize I was just in another sub program of the matrix called the New Age. I think I might be awake now in this sub program called the truther movement, but I could be wrong. The second stage may be applying the change to your world view through action. That may be changing food choices, getting away from WiFi, meditating, how you spend your free time, what you now read and who you talk to. The last stage to me is when I start thinking I need to help others and change what I perceive as a destructive way of existing. I voted for Revolution, because I think the entire system, top to bottom is a corrupted mess. However I can’t say I’m firm on that answer yet. I would hope everyone wakes up and revolts as one. I want revolution but I’m grappling with the idea of imposing my will upon others. If I see a child being abused I feel I have a right to step in, even if the child does not accept my intrusion. The moral question is do I have the right to impose my beliefs on others and start a Revolution for people that do not want it because I believe it’s best for them?

[Hervé]

What "education (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88078-Which-practical-method-do-you-think-is-most-likely-to-bring-positive-change-to-the-world&p=1035962&viewfull=1#post1035962)" did in one generation:

The US Has Been Giving Afghan Children Violent Books to Indoctrinate them to Jihad – It Worked
(http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cold-war-gave-afghan-children-textbooks-promoted-jihad-foster-resistance-soviets/?utm_source=getresponse&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=savoymatt&utm_content=The+Free+Thought+Project+Newsletter)
By John Vibes (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/author/goodvibes/) on January 9, 2016


http://www.sott.net/image/s14/295013/large/us_gave_books_to_make_children.jpg
... the textbooks were published in the dominant Afghan languages of Dari and Pashtu and developed in the early 1980’s at a cost of $51 million.

The Unites States government has played a crucial role in the development of the complex and volatile political situation that now exists in the Middle East, and they have had a heavy hand in influencing the region since the first world war.



From propping up dictators to funding rebel groups for regime change, the U.S. and their allies have been creating monsters in the Middle East for generations. Western involvement in the region became more pronounced and more militarized during the Cold War, where the western allies and the Soviets fought proxy wars all over the world.

Afghanistan was one of the primary battlegrounds where these proxy wars took place, and at the time, the U.S. military was supplying militants in Afganistan with training and weapons to be used against the Soviets who also had political and strategic interests in the region.

The tactics used by the U.S. government extended far beyond traditional warfare and entered the realm of psychological warfare. From the Cold War period until very recently, the U.S. government spent millions of dollars supplying Afghan schoolchildren with propagandized textbooks that had violent images and militant jihadi teachings. The motive behind this propaganda was to actually radicalize the Afghan children so they would be more willing to fight against the Soviets when they got older.

According to the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/03/23/from-us-the-abcs-of-jihad/d079075a-3ed3-4030-9a96-0d48f6355e54/), the textbooks were published in the dominant Afghan languages of Dari and Pashtu and developed in the early 1980’s at a cost of $51 million.

The schoolbooks were even approved by the Taliban because the teachings were not far off from their own worldview.

This propaganda effort was only made public after the U.S. government went to war in Afghanistan in 2002 and it was revealed through the media that the western curriculum being taught in Afghan schools was actually promoting jihad.

At the time, President Bush was forced to respond to the scandal, and he promised that the curriculum would be changed to reflect a more peaceful worldview. Bush promised that 10 million textbooks with updated curriculum would be sent to Afghan schools and he claimed that the new books would teach “respect for human dignity, instead of indoctrinating students with fanaticism and bigotry.”

Chris Brown, head of book revision for AID’s Central Asia Task Force admitted that the textbooks were initially designed as anti-soviet propaganda.

“I think we were perfectly happy to see these books trashing the Soviet Union,” Brown said.

Although, he added the ideas in the textbooks were updated for a new era.
“We turned it from a wartime curriculum to a peacetime curriculum,” he said of the new books.

The textbooks had reportedly portrayed the society in Afghanistan of having a “warrior culture” that was destined to fight a holy war.

Ahmad Fahim Hakim, an Afghan teacher who is very familiar with the books explained that “The pictures [in] the texts are horrendous to school students, but the texts are even much worse.”

Many experts claim that these books are still in use today in Afghan schools, (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/the-taliban-indoctrinates-kids-with-jihadist-textbooks-paid-for-by-the-u-s/) despite efforts from UNICEF to destroy them and replace them with their newer versions.

According to a recent report from the Post, (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/the-taliban-indoctrinates-kids-with-jihadist-textbooks-paid-for-by-the-u-s/) Dana Burde, an assistant professor of international education at New York University, says the Taliban is reprinting and using old U.S.-sponsored jihadist books to influence children in areas where the militants still hold sway. Burde says she found multiple reprinted copies of some of the texts, including a 2011 edition in the Pakistani city of Peshawar.

As images of ISIS beheading their victims dressed in orange jumpsuits are plastered on televisions across the nation, and knowing that the US has been teaching this to children, hot air from the establishment decrying these acts rings hollow.

Any government who would use innocent children as pawns and teach them to become vicious killers, for their own personal gain, is far beyond criminal…it’s downright evil.

[bettye198]

Ok this is my reason for voting about disclosure. Revolution only brings horror, crime, violence and death. We have spread education all throughout the world already. Writing to politicians - the very people who do the bidding of the masters in control is futile. Your anger or inspiration goes into a slush pile. Talking to people on the street is only spinning the story.

Disclosure of the secrets will bring people to their senses. Some will throw themselves out of a window or go mad but those who have an inner strength will gather forces of like minds. It is getting out of the illusion and being real and then drawing strategies for a whole new belief system.

[Ikarusion]

According to the Art of War to defeat your enemy you need to identify them and disrupt their strategy.
are you implying we need to wage war against an enemy to bring positive change to the world?

[Lochinvar]

According to the Art of War to defeat your enemy you need to identify them and disrupt their strategy.
are you implying we need to wage war against an enemy to bring positive change to the world?

I'm saying those that we let run the world are our enemies and we need to disrupt their strategy to beat them. I'd say violence isn't required.

[Deega]

I voted ''Others'' a few comments on the options suggested.

Meditation - if we want significant changes, we would need that the majority meditate on an established design of our ''would like to be society'', and then, it might make a few steps forward, but meditation is a personal thing, it could be collective if we want, be ready to participate, to continue on and on....

Hacking computer systems - unless we decide do hacking to make all computers on Earth be non-functionning, and then, what next..., and what would it achieve, and who will be responsible to aligned the results for a renewed society.

Telling people about ET's - hmm!, even if our Leaders tell of ET existence, then what come next?

Taking to the streets - take a big organization to gain momentum, but there is a need to established what is it to do...?

Not paying tax/registering to vote - if all the people of Earth who are under a somewhat taxed system, would do it all at one time, but do you imagine the synchronization it would need, then what...?

Posting on the internet - If all people of the Earth start posting in Public Forum such as Avalon, with a precise intent of changing Societies, it would have a longing effect, but it would need first of to know how to proceed with this idea...?

Talking to people you meet - Hmm!, it will take time, generations to move along!

Petitions/writing to representatives - this might do some good, but need an organization to have it moved hastily.

Revolution - Yes, but reconstruction, and operating bring the old pattern that we know of.

I voted ''others'' as I mentioned, and if we want change, we need to change ourself to a better me, hoping that others will do the same, with time, it might get to the mind of the wealthy, and maybe thing will change.

Or, the ultimate, we need somewhat a spark of energy coming from inside Earth or the Cosmos that would change one from an ego person to a loving one. And then, changed the way we do our everyday transactions, and our means of exchanges, get rid of religion, and start a new world where one would realized himself by helping another one evolved, then, we ''may'' be on an interesting tract.

[TargeT]

According to the Art of War to defeat your enemy you need to identify them and disrupt their strategy.
are you implying we need to wage war against an enemy to bring positive change to the world?

I'm saying those that we let run the world are our enemies and we need to disrupt their strategy to beat them. I'd say violence isn't required.

Right now the most effective tactic that is being used against "us" is the restriction of energy; even with conventional methods energy should be much much cheaper world wide.

access to energy solves almost every issue faced by man.

Disrupting their strategy would be as simple as providing access to cheap or nearly free energy.

there are many other effective tactics being used against us.. but we gotta start somewhere eh?

[Karezza]

Remain in agreement with Hervé on the importance of Education (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88078-Which-practical-method-do-you-think-is-most-likely-to-bring-positive-change-to-the-world&p=1035972&viewfull=1#post1035972) - personal education to be exact.

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Also what Jane brings attention to is in some ways related:


...raising our own consciousness (which I believe provides the map for every individual's unique and personal journey into multi-dimensional consciousness and ultimate freedom through Love) and expressing love perhaps does more to impulse other people into greater awareness than anything else.

While Rachel mentions;


...Whatever it is in your heart to do, it all makes for a better world.

Many can find agreeable provided of course that hearts desire is not at the expense of another. :)

In following our true hearts desires (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khOaAHK7efc), hopes, dreams with corresponding actions in our lives (living and acting as one truly wishes in freedom - free of fear); I understand at the very least a glimpse of multi-dimensional consciousness is very possible. Others offer meditation as a possible route to this - and they are other ways. One easy way is being genuine and living ones life passionately in what they believe is just and true (accepting nothing less). The rest will follow...and abundant love for everything will make its self known (words of description fail to articulate its truth). In this understanding (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUOJFB6ZGQQ); only beauty is envisioned and compelled to creation.

At least for me; someone may think otherwise :)
(interest in personal education is not to be forgot; the initiator.)

[lake]

My perception …. only mine.......

You cannot fix that which is not broken.
This world is as it should be for a single learning experience of a short lived drama.

Whilst I disagree with the limits imposed upon a life, it is as it was intended for a single sojourn.

You created it to be this way …. you still do! Even in your thoughts of 'love and light'.

You have to know what you are, where you are and why you are.

You cannot change the nature of this place, as you created it to be this way, you could only create another dream to 'live' within, one with less harm but that would be an action of selfishness!

Address the 'loop' within the split of your mind.
The part which is not you.
Then your perception will be changed. Another selfish act.

Look at nature, around and inside you.

You only intended to come here once. How many times has it now been?
Or maybe you like living in Dr Frankensteins Disney land for all of eternity?
As they say “would you like fries with that?”.

Again ….... you cannot fix that which is not broken.

[Valley]

It's very clear to me that we have been 'trained' by a corrupted system to be very much 'divided' in our relations with one another... and that we would benefit greatly from becoming more unified in our thinking/actions... Which is already happening, especially in places like right here on Avalon... And I see a lot more potential here with us, as we continue to keep 'lifting the veils' of illusion and strengthening our healing hearts.

We may already be making a big difference in the world from right here on Avalon and not even realize it.

Keep on 'truckin'...
❤

[Meggings]

The world is a construct of consciousness. We have created it by looking at separation and fear, since where attention flows, energy goes.

The solution is for each one of us to raise our own frequency, reaching again and again towards embracing all as our other-selves.

To that end, it is more productive of good to place one's thoughts and feelings on beauty, nobility, joy, doing what good for others each day brings before us that we can do.

Samildamach spoke similarly in post 41 above. And Rachel spoke similarly saying do what is in your heart to do. And Valley in post 51 says: "...we have been 'trained' by a corrupted system to be 'divided'...continue to keep 'lifting the veils' of illusion and strengthening our healing hearts." And Jane Tripp says to raise our consciousness. Many others gave similar thoughts.

The power of our attention CREATES. We cannot focus on bad and get good.
Focus on good to increase good.

Once you have satisfied yourself that there is mud, there comes a time you no longer need to muck about in the mud making yourself feel dirty. We cannot endlessly pick away at the evils in this world without feeding it our powerful energy.

We CAN lift ourselves and others by doing what comes our way to do - even if it is only a cheerful smile and a lifting up hand that raises another's spirits.


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[Carmody]

Everybody loves and wants change, except for that, er, change part.

Risk yourself, a little bit. Every day.

Action and words.

As long as there appears to be no target, then people will never see it or rally to a cause.

Such a position requires a tremendous amount of control and infiltration of society and culture.

The problem, for the given elite... is that such a grip is by definition tenuous and always in danger of failure.... and involves strong controls.

Therefore, elitist command structure:

Rule number one, is never be visible, (which begets the next)

And two, seem as if they are everywhere,

And three, strike at problem areas with approrpriate speed and extreme prejudice.

And four, appear to be relaxed and in control to whomever may be watching.


It's a numbers game, it's a mind game.

[Meggings]

This is something we can help do. Ignore insane laws that say you cannot feed your brother - just as the Japanese man ignored the government saying he could not go back to the Fukushima zone to feed the abandoned animals and save their lives (which he has been doing for years now).

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[Pam]

Ok this is my reason for voting about disclosure. Revolution only brings horror, crime, violence and death. We have spread education all throughout the world already. Writing to politicians - the very people who do the bidding of the masters in control is futile. Your anger or inspiration goes into a slush pile. Talking to people on the street is only spinning the story.

Disclosure of the secrets will bring people to their senses. Some will throw themselves out of a window or go mad but those who have an inner strength will gather forces of like minds. It is getting out of the illusion and being real and then drawing strategies for a whole new belief system.



You pose a very good argument for disclosure bettye198. It's going to take some very tough love to get some peoples heads out of the sand.

[xbusymom]

I think taking action (not protesting, waking people up, or actively resisting and rebelling against the system- because those are all still just non-pro-active activities) is the best bet to thwarting the herd mentality programming. we have to pro-actively take action in our own local communities and make a difference to get back to caring about the human race... start a community garden, or community elder care/disablility care program; re-establish non-accredited teaching/ mentoring on a subject that you know or are interested in learning about; help people re-establish a 'favor-trade' system of non-money community assistance... etc.

[xbusymom]

I sincerely believe the world gets what we tell the universe we want by the power of are thoughts.energy goes were are thoughts are and create that reality.
Experiments have been done and indicate change can be made with focused thought.could we organise such an experiment using the net and grow in numbers and use are positive thoughts and energy like an lance to a boil

I believe that too, but you have to follow that up with physical action- otherwise you are still just as distracted and non-change oriented as the person who is vegitating in front of the boob-tube.

[Meggings]

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[Meggings]

This is how the tide turns, as we the people stand up and say our quiet 'No" to the insanity foisted upon the world.
From the article linked to below:

Chileans are to take to the streets in protest every month until their National Congress rejects the TPP treaty.
Citizens in Argentina, Chile and Peru took to the streets in droves Friday night to protest the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal, which will affect 12 countries and has already seen major objection from citizens world wide.

“This march is informative, because this treaty was negotiated by countries in secret and behind our backs...

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/south-america-takes-streets-against-tpp