What's the best way to defeat ISIS?

[Lochinvar]

Obviously there are more ways to defeat them than I can list as options (and some of these options will work well together) but which method do you think is most effective?

*This will be my last poll for a while. That's 3 this week (although only 170 posts in 4.5 years isn't overload I'm sure you'd agree). x

[Sunny-side-up]

Depose their Makers, backers!

[ZooLife]

Depose their Makers, backers!

Pretty much goes along with this quote

http://boardofwisdom.com/cachetogo/images/quotes/355993.png

So what happens on the world's stage, to any sustained degree, is encouraged to happen or allowed to happen.

[lucidity]

Put pressure on the USA / Turkey / Israel to cut off the supply of arms, ammo, food, shelter to ISIS fighters.
many of them (perhaps most of them) are mercenary fighters... someone's picking up that tab.

Encouraging the Russians would help too.

[Lochinvar]

Put pressure on the USA / Turkey / Israel to cut off the supply of arms, ammo, food, shelter to ISIS fighters.
many of them (perhaps most of them) are mercenary fighters... someone's picking up that tab.

Encouraging the Russians would help too.

Who are you hoping will put pressure on USA, Turkey and Israel?

[xion]

The best way and only way to defeat anyone is a joint strike.
But not in a sense we're doing it now. Like one country Russia, but the all nations. It can be done i 2 weeks max.
If that doesn't happen then its clear as a day that many countries want ISIS in place for as long as they can.
For example, USA with its "mighty" WMD can do that alone but its doing nothing so far. They just yap yap yap and send some excuses that they are doing all in their power to stop it. Yea, right.
Just remember the illegal war back in Iraq. They destroyed that country in just a matter of months. It was all over the global news every single day. You could hear, USA bombed this, bombed that but now you hear nothing.

You just can't win this war with talks. And you know how USA says, they don't negotiate with terrorist. So there is much at stake here for USA than any other country. We can say that this is a golden opportunity for them to sell weapons via proxy countries like Saudis and the like.
We're gonna see this **** continue to roll around the world until Saudis fall and that could take a while, as they are best buddies with USA.

[Hervé]

Multi-pronged:


Cut the money supply which the Russian started by destroying their tanker-trains with an ensuing drying up of arms deals since it's not as easy to convince direct or proxy backers to quit funding them.



Educate - or get an education - on propaganda and psyops (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81885-Psy-Ops-The-Orchestration-Of.&p=956960&viewfull=1#post956960) tactics built around emotional triggers à-la "Babies thrown out of incubators (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69621-Ukraine-Crimea-Syria-Israel-Iran-Putin-and-World-War-III&p=1036516&viewfull=1#post1036516)" so that individuals don't get recruited, radicalized and enrolled to fight for insane ideas.



Design some sane ways to detect psychopaths and render them un-influential.



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[Zionbrion]

as long as we continue to bomb these arab countries and continue our regime change policy, in each generation there will become a new group of "terrorist"..and they will continue to be called by different names.

The only way I see to end terrorist groups is to stop creating an enviornment that fosters them. Yea all the countires of the world could get together and "defeat" isis, but there would be so much collaterall damage, like I said it would only create a new generation of terrorists.

[Samson]

ISIS means CRISIS just like ALQAida is AlCIAda...
The corporation called USA is broke...
Paper money looks fancy...but its paper
Trillions of dollars have been created out of thin air
The World can no longer support the obese behavior of the USA
Isis is rooted and financed by the USA
USA needs war because its broke
Like a true junkie it ill steal lie kill whatever it takes to stay obese.
Obese in the meaning of more
More money more power more more morons.

USA can destroy earth 200 times the rest of 'us' can do it only 50 times
The roots of ISIS comes from American money...mickey Mouse dollars

America land of the fee
Home of the slave
Namaste

[Lochinvar]

Depose their Makers, backers!

I agree. Who do you think the "Makers, backers" are and how would you remove them?

[Lochinvar]

ISIS means CRISIS just like ALQAida is AlCIAda...
The corporation called USA is broke...
Paper money looks fancy...but its paper
Trillions of dollars have been created out of thin air
The World can no longer support the obese behavior of the USA
Isis is rooted and financed by the USA
USA needs war because its broke
Like a true junkie it ill steal lie kill whatever it takes to stay obese.
Obese in the meaning of more
More money more power more more morons.

USA can destroy earth 200 times the rest of 'us' can do it only 50 times
The roots of ISIS comes from American money...mickey Mouse dollars

America land of the fee
Home of the slave
Namaste

Yes, I agree. If the US, UK etc stopped funding them and giving them weapons they wouldn't exist.

[waves]

???What are you all talking about??? Why are you posing this question as if CNN's and all mainstream media's lies and fictional propaganda have any relevance at face value?

There was no Al Queda and there is no ISIS as being characterized and used to maniupulate public perception of Middle East reality in the US media. The CIA/MOSSAD funded, trained and controlled ISIS is just the rebranding of the long running CIA/Mossad operation to destabilize the Middle East, oust the leaders who don't want to play ball, embed their military presence and fight for the bigger stranglehold than Russa/China/Iran's equivalent CIA.

The question is: How do we expose one of the huge underlying factors of Israel's maniacal rage at feeling justified to stop at nothing to get their sacred land and dominate the Middle East if not more?

The question is: How do we disable/expose the real story and motivate people into non-compliance to change the GAME. The lawless Corporate war machines on both sides fighting ONLY for corporate benefit and increased subjugation/enslavement power is the black heart of the matter.

The question is: How do we stop the media from spitting the word terrorist in our faces a million times a day when at the core the most terrifying terrorists are the blind and gullible US citizens stupidly happily donating % of their minimum wage slave labor to cheaply arm, fund and enable psychopaths to murder in their name.

The result of playing along with this lie is not only ZERO benefit or protections to average Joe, but is the act of giving away your power and ultimately tips the scales even steeper to your own enslavement.

Why isn't the question as posed what a slave would ask who is playing along with the lie?

[Lochinvar]

???What are you all talking about??? Why are you posing this question as if CNN's and all mainstream media's lies and fictional propaganda have any relevance at face value?

There was no Al Queda and there is no ISIS as being characterized and used to maniupulate public perception of Middle East reality in the US media. The CIA/MOSSAD funded, trained and controlled ISIS is just the rebranding of the long running CIA/Mossad operation to destabilize the Middle East, oust the leaders who don't want to play ball, embed their military presence and fight for the bigger stranglehold than Russa/China/Iran's equivalent CIA.

The question is: How do we expose one of the huge underlying factors of Israel's maniacal rage at feeling justified to stop at nothing to get their sacred land and dominate the Middle East if not more?

The question is: How do we disable/expose the real story and motivate people into non-compliance to change the GAME. The lawless Corporate war machines on both sides fighting ONLY for corporate benefit and increased subjugation/enslavement power is the black heart of the matter.

The question is: How do we stop the media from spitting the word terrorist in our faces a million times a day when at the core the most terrifying terrorists are the blind and gullible US citizens stupidly happily donating % of their minimum wage slave labor to cheaply arm, fund and enable psychopaths to murder in their name.

The result of playing along with this lie is not only ZERO benefit or protections to average Joe, but is the act of giving away your power and ultimately tips the scales even steeper to your own enslavement.

Why isn't the question as posed what a slave would ask who is playing along with the lie?

You've asked a few questions there which would make for a confusing poll. Which one question should be asked? Feel free to make a new poll.

[waves]

Didn't mean for this to be the place to answer my replacement questions. I think this is the place to point out that the poll takes the manipulative, fictional mainstream story at face value and therefore is not constructive in a questioning/thinking forum for being what an unthinking enslaved person would ask who is playing along with this huge lie.

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi Lochinvar.

I think everyone in this post has shown they know who the 'They' are, your self included!



Depose their Makers, backers!

I agree. Who do you think the "Makers, backers" are and how would you remove them?

We need totally new leaders and ways to organize this planet home!
The ones we have now are so riddled with power greed, rot, corruption, blood-lines.
It is really them or us, us as in good loving real humans and this planet Earth.
They do what they do only for themselves, not us.
They treat us as vermin, we know they are VERMIN.

But yes it is obvious: Stop the funders.

But I actually voted: raise your vibration levels.
Don't ever stoop to their LOWS.
That is the one thing that will truly stop them, we will leave them all behind in lower D

[ghostrider]

The only way to defeat ISIS , a combat force of EVERY nation , every person of fighting age , civilians included , united together completely sending a Clear message - people of the earth choose freedom to worship how they choose without influence from any religion, any goverment, any book, and never again allow an army or one single religion to murder or force anyone on earth to submit ... the world must choose freedom...the Atlantians drove off the Syran creator overlords under the exact same scenario , the whole earth united and drove them off , there was peace on earth for 4,000 years ... the overlords extended their lifespans to thousands of years and returned, it took 3 years until Atlantis fell ... without unity we could go extinct just like Atlantis , Myans, Sumer, the tribe at easter islnd and many others ... as always - unity is the key to survival , peace , and rreedom ... oneness ...

[ghostrider]

The path to peace , love, harmony and freedom is Unity ... the leaders of earth know this - is why they divide everyone into groups ... isis was born as a group from within a group , at war with everyone not part of their group ... unity is the way to victory. ..

[Baby Steps]

How about crowd funding George Clooney's wife to take various parties to the international court.

1. Israel for illegally bombing Syria
2. Turkey for trafficking stolen oil and Afghani herion
3. Usa for illegal bombing of civilian facilities in Syria

If we could get a change of government in Turkey, the border can be sealed with NATO help.Turkey should be threatened with ejection from NATO for is misdemeanours.

Then we should look to do a deal with Assad, whereby he pledges elections after peace is achieved, and he makes a truce with any moderate groups until then. If Assad plays ball, the west should subordinate its air war to a Russian-Syrian coordinating group. The Russians should be given the status of a UN peacekeeping force.

[lucidity]

Put pressure on the USA / Turkey / Israel to cut off the supply of arms, ammo, food, shelter to ISIS fighters.
many of them (perhaps most of them) are mercenary fighters... someone's picking up that tab.

Encouraging the Russians would help too.

Who are you hoping will put pressure on USA, Turkey and Israel?

Russia, Nato, UN, China, Iran, Syria, Iraq

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How about crowd funding George Clooney's wife to take various parties to the international court.

1. Israel for illegally bombing Syria
2. Turkey for trafficking stolen oil and Afghani herion
3. Usa for illegal bombing of civilian facilities in Syria

If we could get a change of government in Turkey, the border can be sealed with NATO help.Turkey should be threatened with ejection from NATO for is misdemeanours.

Then we should look to do a deal with Assad, whereby he pledges elections after peace is achieved, and he makes a truce with any moderate groups until then. If Assad plays ball, the west should subordinate its air war to a Russian-Syrian coordinating group. The Russians should be given the status of a UN peacekeeping force.

Good suggestions 'Baby Steps'... Howabout

4. USA for supplying weapons to ISIS
5. USA for supplying food and water to ISIS
6. USA for supplying medical materials and treatment to ISIS fighters

[Samson]

Srry for not copypasting all the previous;
In Greed we trust
I had to add.

[zen deik]

Bomb them with pigs......exasperated

[Flash]

-Who is truly asking the question of that thread?

What is the purpose of this question?

A paranoid feeling here - I should go back for an extended week end in the country lolllll:p


Obviously there are more ways to defeat them than I can list as options (and some of these options will work well together) but which method do you think is most effective?

*This will be my last poll for a while. That's 3 this week (although only 170 posts in 4.5 years isn't overload I'm sure you'd agree). x

[Lochinvar]

-Who is truly asking the question of that thread?

What is the purpose of this question?

A paranoid feeling here - I should go back for an extended week end in the country lolllll:p


Obviously there are more ways to defeat them than I can list as options (and some of these options will work well together) but which method do you think is most effective?

*This will be my last poll for a while. That's 3 this week (although only 170 posts in 4.5 years isn't overload I'm sure you'd agree). x

Oh you're absolutely right. Who's asking "who's asking"?

[Nick07]

I think that only people that are actually going to make and currently are making the biggest impact on all this crap we have going on is Anonymous. Our eyes are open we know what's going but not every person has the means of doing something about it. Anonymous is fighting everyone who is current, if you have not watch there stuff posted on YouTube then I recommend you watch you will be impressed.

[Tangri]

???What are you all talking about??? Why are you posing this question as if CNN's and all mainstream media's lies and fictional propaganda have any relevance at face value?

There was no Al Queda and there is no ISIS as being characterized and used to maniupulate public perception of Middle East reality in the US media. The CIA/MOSSAD funded, trained and controlled ISIS is just the rebranding of the long running CIA/Mossad operation to destabilize the Middle East, oust the leaders who don't want to play ball, embed their military presence and fight for the bigger stranglehold than Russa/China/Iran's equivalent CIA.

The question is: How do we expose one of the huge underlying factors of Israel's maniacal rage at feeling justified to stop at nothing to get their sacred land and dominate the Middle East if not more?

The question is: How do we disable/expose the real story and motivate people into non-compliance to change the GAME. The lawless Corporate war machines on both sides fighting ONLY for corporate benefit and increased subjugation/enslavement power is the black heart of the matter.

The question is: How do we stop the media from spitting the word terrorist in our faces a million times a day when at the core the most terrifying terrorists are the blind and gullible US citizens stupidly happily donating % of their minimum wage slave labor to cheaply arm, fund and enable psychopaths to murder in their name.

The result of playing along with this lie is not only ZERO benefit or protections to average Joe, but is the act of giving away your power and ultimately tips the scales even steeper to your own enslavement.

Why isn't the question as posed what a slave would ask who is playing along with the lie?

So far, the best post in this tread.:highfive:

edit to ad" Flash also nailed it.

Where is my 6 blind men and an elephant picture?

I found it. :o

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?85696-THE-RUINER-Unplugged-Latest-release-2-Oct-2015&p=1005669&viewfull=1#post1005669

[Lochinvar]

Srry for not copypasting all the previous;
In Greed we trust
I had to add.

I don't think that's a fair reflection of the folk on this forum whom I've met.

[Flash]

-Who is truly asking the question of that thread?

What is the purpose of this question?

A paranoid feeling here - I should go back for an extended week end in the country lolllll:p


Obviously there are more ways to defeat them than I can list as options (and some of these options will work well together) but which method do you think is most effective?

*This will be my last poll for a while. That's 3 this week (although only 170 posts in 4.5 years isn't overload I'm sure you'd agree). x

Oh you're absolutely right. Who's asking "who's asking"?

You just answered my question. Thank you.

[Sungazerer]

If you have travelled to Islam states, which I have, you would realise that they are largely tribal governed. When the West stop stimulating the situation it will settle back after some bloodshed to a system created over many many centuries. The overwhelming majority of people simply wish to live in peace, this will become manifest throughout the world is a relatively short space of time. Bless up!

[Dennis Leahy]

Other: US citizens, stop voting for democrats and republicans.

[Lochinvar]

???What are you all talking about??? Why are you posing this question as if CNN's and all mainstream media's lies and fictional propaganda have any relevance at face value?

There was no Al Queda and there is no ISIS as being characterized and used to maniupulate public perception of Middle East reality in the US media. The CIA/MOSSAD funded, trained and controlled ISIS is just the rebranding of the long running CIA/Mossad operation to destabilize the Middle East, oust the leaders who don't want to play ball, embed their military presence and fight for the bigger stranglehold than Russa/China/Iran's equivalent CIA.

The question is: How do we expose one of the huge underlying factors of Israel's maniacal rage at feeling justified to stop at nothing to get their sacred land and dominate the Middle East if not more?

The question is: How do we disable/expose the real story and motivate people into non-compliance to change the GAME. The lawless Corporate war machines on both sides fighting ONLY for corporate benefit and increased subjugation/enslavement power is the black heart of the matter.

The question is: How do we stop the media from spitting the word terrorist in our faces a million times a day when at the core the most terrifying terrorists are the blind and gullible US citizens stupidly happily donating % of their minimum wage slave labor to cheaply arm, fund and enable psychopaths to murder in their name.

The result of playing along with this lie is not only ZERO benefit or protections to average Joe, but is the act of giving away your power and ultimately tips the scales even steeper to your own enslavement.

Why isn't the question as posed what a slave would ask who is playing along with the lie?

When you say "there is no ISIS" some of Edward Snowdens releases will contradict you.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by-israeli-mossad-nsa-documents-reveal/5391593

[waves]

When you say "there is no ISIS" some of Edward Snowdens releases will contradict you.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-trained-by-israeli-mossad-nsa-documents-reveal/5391593

How would you characterize the difference in meaning between my entire sentence and the 4 words you isolated out of context?

The whole sentence was deliberate, especially to emphasize 'as characterized':

"there is no ISIS as characterized and used to manipulate public perception of Middle East reality in the US media..."

[seehas]

ISIS doesnt exist ist just a new name for SantaClaus and his old name was Al Quaeda.

[birddog]

Beg to differ. ISIS does exist, although in the US, they keep changing the name. Follow the money, so they say, and stop the money, and you stop ISIS. Nobody works for free, not even for their country... Need better intel, NOT from the normal channels.

[Violet]

Turn off TV?


:noidea:

[Lochinvar]

Beg to differ. ISIS does exist, although in the US, they keep changing the name. Follow the money, so they say, and stop the money, and you stop ISIS. Nobody works for free, not even for their country... Need better intel, NOT from the normal channels.

Yes it's quite straightforward. And in stopping their money I'd include stop paying tax as some/most of their money comes from Western Governments.