Leftist Leavings: Hypersensitivity is ruining humanity

[TargeT]

Are we more sensitive today, or just more ready to be defensive (a symptom of the assumption of the "victimized" role)

I've told my children before that Intent is key & that as long as your intent is not negative it is not your job to manage other peoples feelings just as it is not their job to manage yours.

In other words, don't be so sensitive; not everything is about you & emotionally reacting almost never nets a positive result.

ElU3NfyDPjg

"Micro Aggression" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression_theory); the ultimate tool of the professional victim! :thumbsdown:

[Flash]

Are we more sensitive today, or just more ready to be defensive (a symptom of the assumption of the "victimized" role)

I've told my children before that Intent is key & that as long as your intent is not negative it is not your job to manage other peoples feelings just as it is not their job to manage yours.

In other words, don't be so sensitive; not everything is about you & emotionally reacting almost never nets a positive result.

ElU3NfyDPjg

"Micro Aggression" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression_theory); the ultimate tool of the professional victim! :thumbsdown:

target, although i found the video interesting because it brought back souvenirs of my childhood, I truly think it is full of crap, and the reasons abound so much that it would take 3 pages just to explain.

Microagression would make us stronger, like exposure to microbes will stimulate our immune or defense system.

True, if light, wrong if heavy. In both cases.

What hit me the most is the punch in your stomach hurts, no choice, but words, you can chose if they hurt you or not.. SO WRONG!

This is the specialty of girls, using words to bully, lots of them, on a constant basis, relentlessly. Believe me, even when you think it enters one ear and get out straight away from the other ear, with time, it destroys. It grabs your unconscious, stick their existence in it, and ends up being more destructive than punches in the stomach. And girls bullies know this. They always did, even when I was small.

It is now the kingdom of words instead of punches.

On facebook, in class, everywhere. And to tell the truth, the incredibly hostile words are much more numerous and strong now than they have ever been in my childhood. Despite books with cultural or unaccepting of others biaises have been banned.

And it is not because they are weak that teenager suicide when submitted to this relentless harassment through words and non verbal language cues (no physical hits, just non verbal language), but because it is extremely tough to bare.

So, what is the ultimate goal of that video: to promote going back to physical punches? To learn how to deny feelings we get when called names and learn to toughen up? Guys don't cry kind of - so they won't learn to communicate? You see what i mean, many sides to a story.

[Ikarusion]

I've told my children before that Intent is key & that as long as your intent is not negative it is not your job to manage other peoples feelings just as it is not their job to manage yours.

In other words, don't be so sensitive; not everything is about you & emotionally reacting almost never nets a positive result.
true words, jew boy. true words. :)

[TargeT]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88149-Who-is-behind-the-refugee-crisis&p=1037454&viewfull=1#post1037454

I've told my children before that Intent is key & that as long as your intent is not negative it is not your job to manage other peoples feelings just as it is not their job to manage yours.

In other words, don't be so sensitive; not everything is about you & emotionally reacting almost never nets a positive result.
true words, jew boy. true words. :)

Haha, great reference!

The obscure ones are my favorite!

[PurpleLama]

TargeT has a new handle? Haha!

Your link isn't working, btw.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88149-Who-is-behind-the-refugee-crisis&p=1037454&viewfull=1#post1037454

(Mod-edit: TargeT's link works now. I fixed it. -- Paul.)

[Flash]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88149-Who-is-behind-the-refugee-crisis&p=1037453&viewfull=1#post1037453

I've told my children before that Intent is key & that as long as your intent is not negative it is not your job to manage other peoples feelings just as it is not their job to manage yours.

In other words, don't be so sensitive; not everything is about you & emotionally reacting almost never nets a positive result.
true words, jew boy. true words. :)

Haha, great reference!

The obscure ones are my favorite!

I will be the devil's advocate here it seems.

You are right Target in telling your children that it is the intent that counts. It is true, when they are kids, I would tell the same. It makes them seen the world under a deeper lense, multidimensional one, and it have them take whole responsibilities for their own perceptions and beliefs.

However, when they grow up, I would change the speech again, starting with intent. Intent is almost always alright, even from the killer point of view. Most people do not wake up in the morning telling themselves "today I will do the worst I can do and be the worst I can be". Most people's intents are positive to start with. For the killer, he may be defending against becoming a potential victim, in his head, or be killing because it is part of his inner survival kit. His intent to kill is, in his mind, perfectly alright and ok.

Then, how would our young teenagers distinguish between intents that are constructive for all and intent that hurt others?

Hitler's primary intent was to help the German people to get out of the terrible financial crisis they were in, wasn't it? But the ultimate intent became quite different when integrating power hunger into it.

So, I did talk with my daughter about different kinds of intents and how to distinguish power hunger, self service, self service as a group, and service to others. Later on, I may discuss beliefs systems with her, to refine understanding one notch more -

And believe me, she brings good points, the bulliers words intents and usage being from her experience. In fact, me and one other person we gave her training on how to respond back - you see, she is naturally sensitive plus having a verbal handicap, she therefore was more than targetted by boys and girls, girls being the worst. Telling her that words do not hurt, it is all dependent on the ways you take it, even if they are constant rejection and putting down - pleaaaaaase give me a break.

Psychopaths are bullies with the intent to help themselves and propagate a "better unified world"!

[GloriousPoetry]

My sister who has two kids is raising them on the extreme opposite spectrum of the way we were raised.....we were raised with the iron hand and to some degree abused. I believe my sister was some what traumatized by our upbringing so now she is raising her kids to be whimpy .Having spent two weeks with her and her kids last summer I experienced two whiney and whimpy kids who cry at the drop of a hat. My niece is 9 and is a mouthy and disrespectful girl whose needs come before anyone else's. I was appalled at how soft her parents are with her.
I decided not to visit them again after my niece had a melt down at the dinner table and was crying like a 3 year old. I tried to intervene by talking to her and pointing out her part in the whole issue but her parents stopped me.
I feel sorry for her parents ......wait until she is a teenager!
I don't believe in some of the harsh tactics my parents used on me but I also don't believe in the soft tactics that create hypersensitive kids.

[Flash]

My sister who has two kids is raising them on the extreme opposite spectrum of the way we were raised.....we were raised with the iron hand and to some degree abused. I believe my sister was some what traumatized by our upbringing so now she is raising her kids to be whimpy .Having spent two weeks with her and her kids last summer I experienced two whiney and whimpy kids who cry at the drop of a hat. My niece is 9 and is a mouthy and disrespectful girl whose needs come before anyone else's. I was appalled at how soft her parents are with her.
I decided not to visit them again after my niece had a melt down at the dinner table and was crying like a 3 year old. I tried to intervene by talking to her and pointing out her part in the whole issue but her parents stopped me.
I feel sorry for her parents ......wait until she is a teenager!
I don't believe in some of the harsh tactics my parents used on me but I also don't believe in the soft tactics that create hypersensitive kids.

To me, you do not seem to be describing hypersensitive kids, but only kids without guiding to give direction. They melt down at the dinner table because they have not learn to handle their emotions and have not passed through the ages of 2-4 when it is normal to be selfish (the no period). They do need help.

When I say sensitive, I think of high appraisal of what is going on, acute perceivers of others emotions and intents, as well as acute perceivers of their own emotions. For a while, it goes both ways, if their perception of the environment is more acute and intense, it will be more intense for their inner emotions too. As they grow, it passes, you just get the acute perceiver who perceive environments, emotions and thinking of others more than the average, and perceives its own more too, but has learned to deal with it. For these people, bullying with words has the same impact if not more than bullying with fists.

I was not taking "sensitive" as being only "emotionally hyper"

In the brain, the pain sectors lighting up with a punch are the same lighting up with strong bullying words. For the brain, it is the same thing that is happening.

[TargeT]

I don't believe in some of the harsh tactics my parents used on me but I also don't believe in the soft tactics that create hypersensitive kids.

Trauma based training is fast and effective for short term goals.. But can cause long term issues. I see it as the lazy way out...


It's a very tough line to walk; every situation is more complex than it appears on the surface.

Parenting certainly is a central issue on this topic, we are the role models.

[GloriousPoetry]

Flash,
Hypersensitive in terms of describing the magnified expression of their behavior at hand not their biological makeup........I believe that's what the video is pointing at...

I don't agree with everything the video has to say.......but I also don't like how today you have to be careful in calling a duck a duck.

[TargeT]

To me, you do not seem to be describing hypersensitive kids, but only kids without guiding to give direction. They melt down at the dinner table because they have not learn to handle their emotions and have not passed through the ages of 2-4 when it is normal to be selfish (the no period). They do need help.
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This is partly what I was directing this thread at.

"Leftist leavings" in this context meant left wing political party the so called "liberals".. I'm talking about society / zeitgiest influenced hypersensitivity... Purely behavioral.

[6pounder]

Words can be ignored, but, it doesn't mean you need to use them like it have no impact on others. Saying what ever you want and excusing it with "good intentions" means you have no sense of social emotions.

Edit

Better say social dynamics. Something that eventually puts you in a very low place within society.

[DeDukshyn]

I totally agree with the sentiment and idea that Target has put forth and alluded to, and I also think there are better way to explain the issue than the video posted - it can be explained better and in much further depth, which would yield greater understanding.

A distinction needs to be considered between "emotions" and "emotional reactions". Most people have unhealthy relationship with their emotions. This is because their subconscious has been programmed with these reactions (via early learning and observation (e.g. children learn what you do not what you say - it's culturally encoded)) to the extent that an automated reaction replaces the natural (1st cause) emotion. This distorts our perception, triggers fear response in the body and the mind, and causes overreaction. This overreaction is the problem Target seeks to call out.

This problem does seem to be growing. The cause, from my perspective, is our media, and our "instant" media and information. What sells? Evoking emotional response. So in a world where no one has more than 15 seconds for any particular media, maximal amount of emotional evocation occurs, as quickly as possible. Because the subconscious does not have discernment or judgment, all those examples on instant emotional reactions get programmed and reinforce the whole process. This has been happen since the advent of TV and has been progressively getting more intense as the rate of change in our common experience increases. This increase is what has led to everything needing to be "instant" and intensified the phenomenon itself. Its all very interesting.

The cure?

Meditation - and learning to clear the programs from your subconscious to break the cycles (this is the ultimate lesson to be learned, and is the solution to this "problem" - maybe the "good guys" Hegelian dialect ;)), or, go off grid and live a simple life :)

[lunaflare]

They melt down at the dinner table because they have not learn to handle their emotions and have not passed through the ages of 2-4 when it is normal to be selfish (the no period). They do need help.

Perhaps the "meltdown" is due to the fact that they know they can manipulate their parents. You described your niece (accurately, I am sure) as mouthy and disrespectful. I don't blame you for not visiting as it sounds stressful. It is the approach of the parents, in my opinion, as they fail to provide rules/guidance/direction/boundaries.

Hypersensitive kids respond well to a loving/supportive environment. And this includes rules that are reasonable for children. Adults, with more life experience, are there to provide sound instruction as to how best navigate this world. Knowing when to offer instruction and when to pull back is a delicate balance. No formulae
A super strict environment usually causes hypersensitive kids to withdrawal rather than act out and throw tantrums etc.

Your niece does not sound hypersensitive. Indulged, yes...!!!!

[TargeT]

A distinction needs to be considered between "emotions" and "emotional reactions". Most people have unhealthy relationship with their emotions. This is because their subconscious has been programmed with these reactions (via early learning and observation (e.g. children learn what you do not what you say - it's culturally encoded)) to the extent that an automated reaction replaces the natural (1st cause) emotion. This distorts our perception, triggers fear response in the body and the mind, and causes overreaction. This overreaction is the problem Target seeks to call out.


Excellent rewording





The cure?


heroic levels of psychedelics

as Terrence Mckenna would say.

or meditation :P

but clearly we need to stop reinforcing this but how do you?

[ghostrider]

Life doesn't care what happens to you- its how you React to what happens , its what builds character ... those who react like children , just have some evolving to do ... karma will throw even more at you , until you evole or break , fold or focus ... most people have lost sight of the mindset- no matter what you do , or say , or challenge me with , I will not be moved, I will not be broken , with feet planted firmly in the ground we must face the beast and say YOU SHALL NOT PASS ... This generation has it too easy , technology has made men soft ...