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Harley
14th January 2016, 09:40
In 1977 Jerry R. Ehman was monitoring a radio telescope when he observed a spike in signal, and he wrote "Wow!" on a printout. A new study in the Center for Planetary Science links the signal to comets.

Famous Wow! Signal Might Have Been From Comets, Not Aliens

Via New Scientist (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28747-famous-wow-signal-might-have-been-from-comets-not-aliens/?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=SOC&utm_campaign=hoot&cmpid=SOC%7CNSNS%7C2016-GLOBAL-twitter)
11 January 2016

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On 15 August 1977, radio astronomers using the Big Ear radio telescope at Ohio State University picked up a powerful signal from space. Some believe it was our first interception of an alien broadcast. Now it seems something closer to home may have been the source: a pair of passing comets.

The signal – known as the “Wow! signal” (https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg15520946-800-forum-wow-was-that-et) after a note scribbled by astronomer Jerry Ehman, who detected it – came through at 1420 megahertz, corresponding to a wavelength of 21 centimetres (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11403-no-such-thing-as-a-constant-constant/). Searchers for extraterrestrial transmissions (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27923-100m-project-uses-worlds-best-radio-telescopes-to-find-aliens) have long considered it an auspicious place to look, as it is one of the main frequencies at which atoms of hydrogen, the most common element in the universe, absorb and emit energy. What’s more, this frequency easily penetrates the atmosphere.

But in the 40 years since, we’ve never heard anything like it again. Analysis of the signal ruled out a satellite, and a reflected signal from the Earth’s surface is unlikely because regulations forbid transmission in that frequency range.

The signal’s intensity rose and fell over the course of 72 seconds, which is the length of time that the Big Ear could keep an object in its field of view due to the rotation of the Earth. That meant it was clearly coming from space. So what was it?

Antonio Paris, a professor of astronomy at St Petersburg College in Florida, thinks the signal might have come from one or more passing comets. He points the finger at two suspects, called 266P/Christensen and P/2008 Y2 (Gibbs). “I came across the idea when I was in my car driving and wondered if a planetary body, moving fast enough, could be the source,” he says.

Hydrogen clouds

Comets release a lot of hydrogen as they swing around the sun. This happens because ultraviolet light breaks up their frozen water, creating a cloud of the gas extending millions of kilometres out from the comet itself.

If the comets were passing in front of the Big Ear in 1977, they would have generated an apparently short-lived signal, as the telescope (now dismantled) had a fixed field of view. Searching that same area – as subsequent radio telescopes did – wouldn’t show anything. Tracing the comets’ positions back in time, Paris says that the possible origin for the Wow! signal falls right between where they would have been.

Neither comet was known in 1977; they were both discovered in the last decade, which would mean nobody would have thought to search for them. The odds of any telescope catching them in the region of the Wow! signal by chance were vanishingly small.

To test his idea, Paris proposes looking at the same region of space when the comets are back. Comet 266P/Christensen will transit the region first, on 25 January 2017, then P/2008 Y2 (Gibbs), on 7 January 2018. An analysis of the hydrogen signal of the comets should reveal if he is correct.

Doubts signalled

Some researchers are sceptical, saying it isn’t clear the comets would release enough hydrogen to generate something like the Wow! signal. James Bauer (https://science.jpl.nasa.gov/people/Bauer/) of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, agrees that the hydrogen from comets can extend quite far, but still thinks the signal won’t be strong enough. “If comets were radio-bright at 21 centimetres, I would be puzzled as to why they aren’t observed more often at those wavelengths,” he says.

Paris says future observations will determine whether he is right. One crucial piece of evidence will be how fast the comets move across the sky. Too slow, and the Big Ear would have seen another signal 24 hours later as they rolled back into view, unlike the solo blast of the Wow! signal. “The hypothesis must be tested before it is ruled out,” he says. “Science 101.”

Journal reference: To appear in the Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences, preprint (http://planetary-science.org/hydrogen-clouds-from-comets-266p-christensen-and-p2008-y2-gibbs-are-candidates-for-the-source-of-the-1977-wow-signal/)

(Image credit: The Ohio State University Radio Observatory and the North American Astrophysical Observatory (NAAPO))

Hervé
14th January 2016, 12:24
Yep!

See also this thread/post: The NSA’s message from the Extraterrestrials, on their website! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87530-The-NSA--s-message-from-the-Extraterrestrials-on-their-website-&p=1037116&viewfull=1#post1037116)

Bill Ryan
14th January 2016, 13:27
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Steven Greer [very interestingly] stated here on record, presented by Art Bell last August on his radio show, that Frank Drake, the founder of SETI, had told Greer confidentially that this was an ET signal and that it had been covered up. I believe it was the 'Wow' signal that was being referred to.

http://projectavalon.net/Steven_Greer_Drake_SETI_Art_Bell_5_August_2015.mp3 (2 mins, 1.4 Mb)

Harley
14th January 2016, 18:25
Yep!

See also this thread/post: The NSA’s message from the Extraterrestrials, on their website! (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87530-The-NSA--s-message-from-the-Extraterrestrials-on-their-website-&p=1037116&viewfull=1#post1037116)

Apologies Hervé! It's not often that I duplicate another's post/thread.

Feel free to delete this thread as there is no need to have two conversations going on the same subject.

Thanks! :)

Harley

Hervé
14th January 2016, 21:02
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Feel free to delete this thread...

Nah! It's easier to find it under this title than under some NSA stuff :)

mojo
14th January 2016, 21:52
Hi, Not to sidetrack the Wow signal post, but not sure if Greer was talking about the wow signal as he mentions it by name a little further in... but possibly. Even if Wow signal is not a message there are some other examples of possible communication that is if you agree that some crop circles are authentic...
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nomadguy
22nd January 2016, 07:30
Click here (http://seti.net/indepth/wow/2009-03-12T11-25-06.WAV) to download the wav file.

This signal is said to come from the Sagittarius constellation, IE the same constellation that resides at the center of the milky way.
Source (http://seti.net/indepth/wow/wow.php)

Hervé
15th June 2017, 01:27
Mystery solved: Wow! signal from 1977 was generated by a comet (https://phys.org/news/2017-06-wow-mystery-space.html)

Bob Yirka Phys.org (https://phys.org/news/2017-06-wow-mystery-space.html)
Wed, 07 Jun 2017 00:00 UTC


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A team of researchers with the Center of Planetary Science (CPS) has finally solved the mystery of the "Wow!" signal from 1977. It was a comet, they report, one that that was unknown at the time of the signal discovery. Lead researcher Antonio Paris describes their theory and how the team proved it in a paper published in the Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences.

Back in August of 1977, a team of astronomers studying radio transmissions (https://phys.org/tags/radio+transmissions/) from an observatory at Ohio State called the "Big Ear" recorded an unusual 72-second signal—it was so strong that team member Jerry Ehman scrawled "Wow!" next to the readout. Since that time, numerous scientists have searched for an explanation of the signal, but until now, no one could offer a valid argument. Possible sources such as asteroids, exo-planets, stars and even signals from Earth have all been ruled out. Some outside the science community even suggested that it was proof of aliens. It was noted that the frequency was transmitted at 1,420 MHz, though, which happens to be the same frequency as hydrogen.

The explanation started to come into focus last year when a team at the CPS suggested that the signal might have come from a hydrogen cloud accompanying a comet (https://phys.org/tags/comet/)—additionally, the movement of the comet would explain why the signal was not seen again. The team noted that two comets had been in the same part of the sky that the Big Ear was monitoring on the fateful day. Those comets, P/2008 Y2(Gibbs) and 266/P Christensen had not yet been discovered. The team then got a chance to test their idea as the two comets appeared once again in the night sky from November 2016 through February of 2017.


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The team reports that radio signals from 266/P Christensen matched those from the Wow! signal 40 years ago. To verify their results, they tested readings from three other comets, as well, and found similar results. The researchers acknowledge that they cannot say with certainty that the Wow! signal was generated by 266/P Christensen, but they can say with relative assurance that it was generated by a comet.

More information: Hydrogen Line Observations of Cometary Spectra at 1420 MHZ (http://planetary-science.org/research/the-wow-signal/) , Journal of the Washington Academy of Sciences

ABSTRACT
In 2016, the Center for Planetary Science proposed a hypothesis arguing a comet and/or its hydrogen cloud were a strong candidate for the source of the "Wow!" Signal. From 27 November 2016 to 24 February 2017, the Center for Planetary Science conducted 200 observations in the radio spectrum to validate the hypothesis. The investigation discovered that comet 266/P Christensen emitted a radio signal at 1420.25 MHz. All radio emissions detected were within 1° (60 arcminutes) of the known celestial coordinates of the comet as it transited the neighborhood of the "Wow!" Signal. During observations of the comet, a series of experiments determined that known celestial sources at 1420 MHz (i.e., pulsars and/or active galactic nuclei) were not within 15° of comet 266/P Christensen. To dismiss the source of the signal as emission from comet 266/P Christensen, the position of the 10-meter radio telescope was moved 1° (60 arcminutes) away from comet 266/P Christensen. During this experiment, the 1420.25 MHz signal disappeared. When the radio telescope was repositioned back to comet 266/P Christensen, a radio signal at 1420.25 MHz reappeared. Furthermore, to determine if comets other than comet 266/P Christensen emit a radio signal at 1420 MHz, we observed three comets that were selected randomly from the JPL Small Bodies database: P/2013 EW90 (Tenagra), P/2016 J1-A (PANSTARRS), and 237P/LINEAR. During observations of these comets, we detected a radio signal at 1420 MHz. The results of this investigation, therefore, conclude that cometary spectra are detectable at 1420 MHz and, more importantly, that the 1977 "Wow!" Signal was a natural phenomenon from a Solar System body.