Tracking Enemies of the State across many lifetimes

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, All:

giovonni has already referenced this here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1031251&viewfull=1#post1031251) and here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87579-Putin-the-Time-Traveler&p=1031250&viewfull=1#post1031250), but I've just watched these myself and felt this topic really deserves its own thread.

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Here's Clif High telling a fireside tale. He maintains it's fiction — of course. But clearly, this really happened.

The three parts are 7, 14 and 19 mins long. It could be far shorter, but it's quite fun to listen to.

The culmination is in Part 3, but you ideally need the first two parts as an intro.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L07MsC5to5Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaVOCIURmY0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxo_2QT-hyU[/url]
Summary:

Clif High (from HalfPastHuman.com (http://HalfPastHuman.com)) was invited back in 2013 to a private presentation of a new project initiated by a US defense contractor. His 'in' was because his father had many years back saved the life of a man who was now a General, and was involved in the project. Clif was also being courted to be recruited, because of his own software expertise. (He turned down the implied offer. This is why this story is 'fiction'.)

What he learned about was a heavily funded project using advanced facial recognition software to identify the possible previous incarnations of 'people of interest' to the US government.

To his astonishment, in the military contractor's presentation, David Wilcock was right there shown as being demonstrably similar, facially, to Edgar Cayce — something that's been frequently discussed in the alternative media. But for Wilcock to suddenly appear in the defense contractor's presentation was quite a surprise.

Clif High said that the heavily-funded search was now on to identify living people not only from older photographs, but even maybe from medieval paintings and even older sculptures.

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Wow.

I have some more to say about all this later, but do watch the three videos (again, Part 3 is the key one). Recommended, and most interesting. And — most certainly true.

[Flash]

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Hi, All:

giovonni has already referenced this here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=1031251&viewfull=1#post1031251) and here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?87579-Putin-the-Time-Traveler&p=1031250&viewfull=1#post1031250), but I've just watched these myself and felt this topic really deserves its own thread.

***

Here's Clif High telling a fireside tale. He maintains it's fiction — of course. But clearly, this really happened.

The three parts are 7, 14 and 19 mins long. It could be far shorter, but it's quite fun to listen to.

The culmination is in Part 3, but you ideally need the first two parts as an intro.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L07MsC5to5Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaVOCIURmY0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxo_2QT-hyU[/url]
Summary:

Clif High (from HalfPastHuman.com (http://HalfPastHuman.com)) was invited back in 2013 to a private presentation of a new project initiated by a US defense contractor. His 'in' was because his father had many years back saved the life of a man who was now a General, and was involved in the project. Clif was also being courted to be recruited, because of his own software expertise. (He turned down the implied offer. This is why this story is 'fiction'.)

What he learned about was a heavily funded project using advanced facial recognition software to identify the possible previous incarnations of 'people of interest' to the US government.

To his astonishment, in the military contractor's presentation, David Wilcock was right there shown as being demonstrably similar, facially, to Edgar Cayce — something that's been frequently discussed in the alternative media. But for Wilcock to suddenly appear in the defense contractor's presentation was quite a surprise.

Clif High said that the heavily-funded search was now on to identify living people not only from older photographs, but even maybe from medieval paintings and even older sculptures.

https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif
Wow.

I have some more to say about all this later, but do watch the three videos (again, Part 3 is the key one). Recommended, and most interesting. And — most certainly true.

Parkes did tell me that people who could have an impact on the reptilian or mantid or Cabal's agenda were followed from incarnation to incarnation, by any or all of these groups, their soul vibration being tracked. It they had ruined or hampered the agenda in previous lifes, everything was done in the present life to make all kinds of trouble to them to make sure they were not successful, or deactivated in their mission, or they were courted to try to have them change camp, or they were used and abused for all kinds of MkUltra trials and other stuff. In any ways, they were stopped as much as possible.

However, if they had been helpful or were part of the group in a previous incarnation, they would be tracked as well to be reintegrated in the given group.

Someone else also told me that for the dark Cabal, upon death, the soul was immediately forced into a new body to continue .... eternally... is this is possible. If the soul escaped from sudden death for example or for lack of prior preparation, then it would be looked for through different means, to find out where it reincarnated.

Personally, I do not think souls could be forced into new bodies, it does need some resourcing between lifes. But i do think we emit specific personal soul vibration and this could be tracked.

My bet: the cabal may have lost access to the reptilian technologies and are trying to replicate it. Or they have lost some of their people and are trying to get them back fast enough (thinking of the suicidal chain that went on following Shane's blog). Or both. If we are to believe all or any of this.

[TargeT]

I've always had this theory that there are only so many different "models" of "people"; maybe it goes back to base genetics or something... but there are so many people that resemble historical figures or even other people currently alive... is that just because we have a limited expression of genetics (there only can BE so many visible variations) or is it something else....


This is a pretty interesting concept, especially if it's being done in a predictive way (ie: you are now predictable based on who you were & apparently it's traceable by appearance) Is the visual aspect (facial recognition) just a cover for a different method of recognition?



Someone else also told me that for the dark Cabal, upon death, the soul was immediately forced into a new body to continue .... eternally... is this is possible. If the soul escaped from sudden death for example or for lack of prior preparation, then it would be looked for through different means, to find out where it reincarnated.

Personally, I do not think souls could be forced into new bodies, it does need some resourcing between lifes. But i do think we emit specific personal soul vibration and this could be tracked.

My bet: the cabal may have lost access to the reptilian technologies and are trying to replicate it. If we are to believe all this.

Re-incarnation & trapped souls are sorta two sides of the same coin right? (one could be the cover or 'disinfo' for the other) I've never really bought into that much.. how does the population keep growing? who or what gets "a soul" ? too many questions there for me.


"the white light" being a trap is an interesting concept that kind of lines up with the "trapped souls" idea

[TODD & NORA]

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[Lone Bean]

I watched the videos and clearly this isn't fiction. But, did he mention what episode of Max Keiser was the one talking about death? I'd like to watch that. Overall though, what is his point with all of this? That we can be blasted by a laser because we looked like someone from the past who they don't like due to their reincarnation facial recognition program?

And how does this apply to identical twins or triplets?

[Bill Ryan]

Overall though, what is his point with all of this?

Good question! :)

My personal guess... though my own caveat on all this is that it's very deeply flawed on several major counts.

Supposing they 'identified' you, or thought they had, as someone who many times in the last 2,000 years was a resistance leader of some kind, or a radical freedom fighter, or a pirate, or an outlaw, or maybe a traitor to your nation at the time.

And suppose you're only 25, with facial features pretty much well-formed, but not yet your worldviews or chosen life trajectory. They just might immediately put you on a priority surveillance list for reasons you know absolutely nothing about — and which may not even be accurate.

[AriG]

Wow. Just, Wow.

If I understand this correctly, he is saying that TPTB have access to alien technology that allows them to see their prior lifetimes? And this new facial recognition software gives them a tool to find their past enemies today? I agree with Lone Bean in the emotion that this is pointless. The whole point of reincarnation is a "do over". Is settling an ages old Vendetta that TPTB didn't know existed until they accessed alien technology worth it to them? to track or harm that person who has no clue ? Where's the gain? Just a grudge match?

Bill, you should interview Clif High. Does anyone know his true identity or where he lives?

[Flash]

Overall though, what is his point with all of this?

Good question! :)

My personal guess... though my own caveat on all this is that it's very deeply flawed on several major counts.

Supposing they 'identified' you, or thought they had, as someone who many times in the last 2,000 years was a resistance leader of some kind, or a radical freedom fighter, or a pirate, or an outlaw, or maybe a traitor to your nation at the time.

And suppose you're only 25, with facial features pretty much well-formed, but not yet your worldviews or chosen life trajectory. They just might immediately put you on a priority surveillance list for reasons you know absolutely nothing about — and which may not even be accurate.

Well, the difference between cabal and Dracos, again following Parkes, is that Drac know very well that you cannot kill higher souls, who may contradict and hamper your objectives, without dire consequences. That higher souls are needed to keep some kind of balance on the planet otherwise it is detrimental to Dracs as well. So they will damage them, stop them, or make sure they do not incarnate by stealing the incarnation process, but they will not kill them. However, for ordinary human, they could kill if they wanted to, but what is the use, they are not important to the agenda, just useful for loosh and food.

If this is true, I am pretty sure human cabal would not give a dam about keeping enemies alive or not - they would just kill, period. Too stupid to understand the consequences.

Your point Pray Peace is very interesting. Not having time to clean up after an incarnation and reincarnating too soon too often would make you become more and more corrupt. In other words, you need to wash up in between incarnation, or the program needs to be cleaned of viruses, otherwise the system gets to work wrong.

Funny because someone in my immediate environment (not from forums) told me that people with heavy duty mental illnesses (not the chronically depressed, but the paranoids amongst others, psychopaths, some inds of schizophernics, etc) were in that state of mind because they were so crooked life after life (bad) that it had an impact on their incarnational mental health deteriorating.

[Bill Ryan]

Wow. Just, Wow.

If I understand this correctly, he is saying that TPTB have access to alien technology that allows them to see their prior lifetimes? And this new facial recognition software gives them a tool to find their past enemies today? I agree with Lone Bean in the emotion that this is pointless. The whole point of reincarnation is a "do over". Is settling an ages old Vendetta that TPTB didn't know existed until they accessed alien technology worth it to them? to track or harm that person who has no clue ? Where's the gain? Just a grudge match?

Bill, you should interview Clif High. Does anyone know his true identity or where he lives?

Not alien technology, I don't think: just advanced military-grade facial recognition software, analyzing the muscles and facial structure round the ears, eyes, nose and mouth.

Yes, I'm in touch with Clif High, or was — back in 2012, when he invited me to WA state, where he lives, to chat. (I was in Ecuador by then, so never took him up on his offer.) He was 100% convinced there'd be a pole shift on 21 Dec, and was building an unsinkable boat to survive the catastrophe.

But I doubt if Clif would have anything more to add. He can't enlarge on this 'fictional' story, and he's unlikely to know very much more.

*** One REALLY important thing to note here: we do NOT always look anything like like our past incarnations. Not at all.

We can do... IF the body intelligence is the same (because that, as a spiritual entity in its own right, reincarnates, too). See this thread:

The Body Intelligence (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?20335-The-Body-Intelligence)

But if we have a different body intelligence than previously (although like a cowboy and his/her horse, if it's a good 'team' combo, both parties will want to stay together across lifetimes if they can) — we will likely look nothing like our former body did. My guess is that these contractor guys don't understand very well the complexities of how this all works, and are quite likely to get things very wrong at least quite a bit of the time.

[Carmody]

I have partial genetic matches to my life in the south during the US Civil war. I'm partially Canadian French in this life and mostly Louisiana French two lives back.

I've spoken about this before, so I'm not revealing anything that will make my life more difficult than it already is.

[Lone Bean]

Did Cliff also say something along the lines that we can't reincarnate into other races or change our sex? This might sound weird, but I have had dreams where I was a black person (and I mean very dark skinned) and was so happy to be black again. Maybe that means something or maybe not. But, I don't think that we are at all stuck with the same repetitive physical format and are in fact, encouraged to change our physical selves each reincarnation.

[Carmody]

Another point, which I'm putting in a separate post, obviously, is that there are supposedly only 36 different facial types. That's it.

Then, there are derivations of those types, as dictated by the given genetic mix.

This correlates back to the 36 decans of astrology, is the point that may be surmised. (very limited data but very much worth the investigation.)

The 36 types... as a limit, a limit which may involve the low number of original earth mothers. Which is disturbingly close to the number 36.

[Flash]

I have partial genetic matches to my life in the south during the US Civil war. I'm partially Canadian French in this life and mostly Louisiana French two lives back.

I've spoken about this before, so I'm not revealing anything that will make my life more difficult than it already is.

I have been French too for a few lifes at least (one as a man and I did not look at all like I do now, thin, short, ugly, starving), or a mix French Italian in the last one.

Without better technologies and better understanding of the whole process of development, including inner and soul development, I do not think they will get anything right. And they cannot get to the soul incarnations and development, they are too way off cut from their own. This is a cul de sac for quite a while, I think.

With face recognition, they go at it the wrong way. Soul vibrations detection would be much better probably and yet.... this too changes over incarnational learnings.

[Meggings]

My experience shows it is true that we can see other lifetime faces in a current face. Once I opened a brand new history book at random, saw a picture, and immediately slammed it shut. I could not bring myself to open the book again for three weeks, for I had recognized my current husband in the painting I saw.

Here are some pictures that all portray other lifetimes of someone I knew in this life. I recognize him in each of these faces. One of these - the last one - I was surprised to recognize on another planet in another incarnation, but with the same facial features.

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Clif High speaks of an experience he had, using the words enlightenment, flash of light, and then seeing faces of other lifetimes appear one after another. I am not enlightened but have been surprised to see, on one of my travels in the black ethers, a symbol that intrigued me. I flew up close to it and one quandrant opened up, and I saw it was crowded with faces of warriors and kings, and these streamed out towards me and I watched spellbound as face after face morphed into the next face in a long line of incarnations.

And that was only one quadrant that opened up to my spiritual vision. We are vast souls, and our little personality incarnation is so small, but yet part of that vastness. I smile knowing the day will come when all people will be able to access these other parts of themselves.

[4evrneo]

Did Cliff also say something along the lines that we can't reincarnate into other races or change our sex? This might sound weird, but I have had dreams where I was a black person (and I mean very dark skinned) and was so happy to be black again. Maybe that means something or maybe not. But, I don't think that we are at all stuck with the same repetitive physical format and are in fact, encouraged to change our physical selves each reincarnation.

This may be of some interest to you about reincarnating into different sex's or races. Sorry if slightly off topic but may be of some use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fmj3wzg4Ag

Also, Clif High highly recommends this book to have a more deeper understanding of the topic of reincarnation, etc.

http://thewordfoundation.org/b-Thinking_and_Destiny.shtml (I am reading it now)

[Kano]

Wow, fascinating thread. Thanks, Bill. I have studied this phenomenon before and remember this video from that time. Clif really adds a lot of "fictional" support to these types of claims.

I don't find anything woo-woo about this concept. Seems completely plausible to me. Thanks for posting. Looking forward to more from Clif on this.

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[Kano]

I've always had this theory that there are only so many different "models" of "people"; maybe it goes back to base genetics or something...

Me too. I can remember from an early age, like around middle school, recognizing a common essence in people. I was incapable of articulating the feeling back then, but it was the idea of the different "models" of people. I would meet or know someone and years later meet someone with the same basic features and mannerisms who were thousands of miles apart with no familial connection - fascinating.

This reminds me of the Ayurvedic idea of the 12 Dosha types. More info herehttp://www.naturesformulary.com/contents/dosha-test

[Tangri]

Overall though, what is his point with all of this?

Good question! :)

My personal guess... though my own caveat on all this is that it's very deeply flawed on several major counts.

Supposing they 'identified' you, or thought they had, as someone who many times in the last 2,000 years was a resistance leader of some kind, or a radical freedom fighter, or a pirate, or an outlaw, or maybe a traitor to your nation at the time.

And suppose you're only 25, with facial features pretty much well-formed, but not yet your worldviews or chosen life trajectory. They just might immediately put you on a priority surveillance list for reasons you know absolutely nothing about — and which may not even be accurate.

"and which may not even be accurate"

I concur that. I want to believe that governments(!) do not have that much low IQ which will accept "reincarnation of souls/, spirits" addicted to same physical appearing.
It always chose to ride same bodies,:facepalm: This look like too much pushed ideas on uncharted territory which comes from damaged minds.

I could accept that if it comes like this.

"Shape borrowers chose certain DNA bank for their clones."

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi TargeT

Re-incarnation & trapped souls are sorta two sides of the same coin right? (one could be the cover or 'disinfo' for the other) I've never really bought into that much.. how does the population keep growing? who or what gets "a soul" ? too many questions there for me.In a vid of Cliff High the other day (Title had Black Star in it)
Well 3/4's through Cliff talks about the time between reincarnations. If you have a life crammed with knowledge and experiences you have a longer time to process the good and bad aspects of it, now add to that, we are coming into the brighter and nearer orbit back to the Black Sun where more energy and experiences are to be had. Well more people/souls are coming back now due to the coinciding of total experiences/knowledges from when they where last incarnated in the Silver-Golden ages.

I guess if you had a massive amount of experiences and knowledge you might rest all the way round again, missing out the Iron and Bronze ages altogether!

That would actually tie in with the idea that 'saucerers' sleep for thousands of years until they are really needed again!
People/souls at the top end positions and wisdom within the Golden Age would defiantly be seen as saucerers.

Anyway the Black-Star vid is very interesting.
I will watch this posts 3 vids tomorrow, thanks Bill

Adding:
If you had such insight into your reincarnations, you could actually time and so reincarnate back into the late Silver Age or better still the Golden Age and have your supper powers and glorious life again :)

Add to that:
If you had a quick short life you would reincarnate sooner. You could be a powerful tool for short hi impact missions etc.

Knowledge of previous lives and you place in them is why we are memory cleaned by TPTW where as they try to do the opposite!

[Hervé]

So... so much for those fictional contractors' theory to have any practical results... yet someone is pouring tons of money in it...

[eagle0027]

The movie I origins may be a clue...have heard retnal patterns follow lifetimes.Just traveled out of vancouver through the U.S. and had to take a closeup self pic as well as scan a passport which i would not doubt is a retnal scan.The alien roswell interview as well brings up them following their people here on earth through incarnations who are trapped here .
For those traveling to Roatan you may be interested in and pissed at being fingerprinted upon landing...like Honduras cares about your fingerprints.

Be well..Ed

[wnlight]

Flash: "Not having time to clean up after an incarnation and reincarnating too soon too often would make you become more and more corrupt."

I suspect that what we call time does not exist between incarnations. If there is any sign of corruption in the makeup of the next incarnation, it was likely planned.

[Karpos]

I don't understand how this is clearly not fiction. I believe in reincarnation, but clif high could be making this stuff up for all we know.

The Idea of the OP is interesting non the less.

[wnlight]

I agree with Karpos. I think Cliff High is pulling your leg, Bill. Even so, this has been a most interesting and amusing thread.

[eagle0027]

Totally believe it...wn light..from the perspect of the evil ,threats to their ongoing counterhumanitary evolution from reincarnated briliant people like Tesla or JFK to name a couple would really change the game.
One would conclude that those seeking reincarnates in the C. H. Situation are not doing it for the beterment of mindkind and probably of e.t.control or origin.

[earthdreamer]

I had just seen a scary article in Consumer Reports recently that highlights the invasive facial recognition tech coming our way (don't think they have any data on past life face software!)

http://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/facial-recognition-who-is-tracking-you-in-public1

"Facial Recognition: Who's Tracking You in Public?"


"New technology is moving into the world of department stores, casinos, and cruise ships—and even churches. How freaked out should you be?

By Consumer Reports

Last updated: December 30, 2015

The mall is crowded, including the department store that keeps your family supplied with everything from handbags to business suits. Moments after you enter, a saleswoman walks up holding a tablet. She smiles and greets you by name. Are you shopping for yourself or your spouse today? We’ve moved things around since you were here in December—let me help you find your way, she says.

This is how customer service works in a few high-end stores in Europe, and vendors are now marketing the underlying technology to retailers in the U.S. The experience relies on facial recognition—and whether it sounds appealing or intrusive depends on your perspective.

Here’s how facial recognition works. As shoppers enter the store, security cameras feed video to computers that pick out every face in the crowd and rapidly take many measurements of each one’s features, using algorithms to encode the data in strings of numbers. These are called faceprints or templates. The faceprints are compared with a database, and when there’s a match, the system alerts salespeople—or security guards if anyone previously caught shoplifting in the store is spotted walking the aisles.

A company called Herta Security, based in Barcelona, Spain, is one vendor of the technology. Its system is being used in casinos and expensive shops in Europe, and the company is preparing to open offices in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C.

Retailers that use the Herta system receive alerts through a mobile app when a member of a VIP loyalty program enters the store—the customers have previously agreed to have their photos entered into the retailer’s database. The screen displays the shopper’s name, a photo just taken from the video feed, shopping preferences, and other details.

For now, security is a bigger business than customer service, however. Herta’s software was used at the 2014 Golden Globe Awards at the Beverly Hills Hilton to scan for known celebrity stalkers. The company’s technology may soon help bar known criminals in soccer stadiums in Europe and Latin America. Police forces and national security agencies in the U.S., the United Kingdom, Singapore, South Korea, and elsewhere are experimenting with facial recognition to combat violent crime and tighten border security."

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".....many of us have become numb to the privacy intrusions of the Web. But at least we know we’ve gone online and can control whether or not we have social media accounts and what we share through them.

Facial recognition has the potential to move Web-style tracking into the real world, and can erode that sense of control. That’s what alarms privacy experts such as Alvaro Bedoya, the executive director of Georgetown Law’s Center on Privacy & Technology, and the former chief counsel to the Senate’s subcommittee on privacy, technology, and the law.

“People would be outraged if they knew how facial recognition” is being developed and promoted, Bedoya says. “Not only because they weren’t told about it, but because there’s nothing they can do about it. When you’re online, everyone has the idea that they’re being tracked. And they also know that there are steps they can take to counter that, like clearing their cookies or installing an ad blocker. But with facial recognition, the tracker is your face. There’s no way to easily block the technology.” "


Maybe we should all wear burkas with dark sunglasses.

[Sérénité]

Great thread, it's a candy shop week this week on Avalon for me, too much to read/watch and not enough time :)

[Shannon]

Fascinating and scary.

For some reason I would think that whoever the tptb are looking to seek and destroy already knows they're wanted. maybe?

[ghostrider]

The ETs ( the Plejaren) say reincarnation is a fact , the human being contains an immortal spirit that does not die or sleep in the deepest sleep, it records the thoughts, actions and feelings and tells the human being if they are correct if he has learned to pay attention to it ... They track/follow one particular line that goes back over 12 billion years... It began with Nokodemjon then - Enoch Isaiah Elijah Jeremiah Immanuel Muhammad and Beam , the seven prophets of the seven sisters... The technology is real , the message is always the same yet gets corrupted by evil men to control men, it's why history is guarded above all things... The ptb are very good at control, and tampering with things they really have no clue about...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

A very interesting story this, but I have one exception to something Clif said, which also Lone Bean pointed out. It is my understanding and belief that one of the most important aspects of living multiple lives, is diversity of experience. It makes no sense to me, and cannot really work, if a soul is restricted to just one race, or even one sex.

I believe we have to experience life from almost every standpoint, background, culture, language, race and gender, etc, at least once at any rate, in order to gain wisdom and humility from all these differing growth 'templates' - to evolve through tribulation, transition, and ultimately revelation, until our lessons are learned. Accountability - Karma - also comes into that. I can imagine a hateful life time, in which one has been responsible for judging, harming, even persecuting, someone of a different race, gender, or lifestyle - and in the next life time experiencing the other end of it. Eg, a former Nazi experiences what it’s really like to live as a Jew.

[sirdipswitch]

Facial recognition software is an extremely spooky thing!!! I have mentioned on several threads that as a "long-haul" Trucker, traveling quickly back and forthe across this country, (U.S.) one will notice the close similarity in people. It soon becomes quite un-nerving to see the same people "everywhere" one goes!!!

I have had other drivers say high and sit at my table for dinner, only to discover half way though our meal that they really don't know me!!ccc.

I sure hope one of those cameras don't capture a crook that looks like me!!! Sure hope I have a good alibi at that time!!!ccc.

[robcarratello]

Regarding the govt being right about the ability to track people over time, in different incarnations: Whether they have it right, or wrong, the govt is clearly going to problem solve for potential negatives or threats and cover all bases.

I have a super buddhisty friend/ mentor that presented a body of evidence and rational/ logical argument that reincarnation is real. It also has resolved some of my own issues with believing that there is a creative intelligence whom actually cares about us/ wants to see good prevail; as opposed to a "hands off the experiment" attitude. For example, why tragic stuff happens to young, innocent children. What Clif says about the time between the reincarnation cycle being directly proportional to the amount impact or karma a soul had absolutely tracks with her understanding of how it works.

That are there are only "X" amounts of "molds" from which to cast a human physically is also very interesting. I tend to notice patterns in things, and have always felt like people generally fall into body types and bone structures. Does all that stem from the original earth mothers, or whatever? I am nowhere near educated on this to even have an opinion. Sounds good though.

Thanks for a great thread guys/ gals.

[Matt P]

I'm just shocked no one has posted this yet! ;)

http://www.mypeace.tv/group/otherlifeforms/forum/topics/are-michelle-and-barack-obama

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[Sunny]

I used to read Clif High's website and download his "predictive linguistics" predictions. One day I read a description on George Ure's "Urban Survival" website of how the predictive linguistics works. If I understand it correctly (this is from my memory), it is something like this: We are all psychic and unconsciously we know what will happen in the future, so we are always dropping clues in our speech to what we unconsciouly know. Clif goes to a number of websites and forums and analyzes which words are used frequently in the posts. Then he writes predictions based on the words. For instance, if he found that many people were using the words "cheese", "car" and "health", he might make a prediction that "People having accidents while eating cheese in their cars could be a health concern." Forgive me if I have misunderstood his methodology, but after hearing about this, I stopped reading his website. I would take what he has to say with a grain of salt.

[Limor Wolf]

I used to read Clif High's website and download his "predictive linguistics" predictions. One day I read a description on George Ure's "Urban Survival" website of how the predictive linguistics works. If I understand it correctly (this is from my memory), it is something like this: We are all psychic and unconsciously we know what will happen in the future, so we are always dropping clues in our speech to what we unconsciouly know. Clif goes to a number of websites and forums and analyzes which words are used frequently in the posts. Then he writes predictions based on the words. For instance, if he found that many people were using the words "cheese", "car" and "health", he might make a prediction that "People having accidents while eating cheese in their cars could be a health concern." Forgive me if I have misunderstood his methodology, but after hearing about this, I stopped reading his website. I would take what he has to say with a grain of salt.

We do speak with our unconscious and sub-conscious mind many times, there's seems to be a whole lot of reality in there and it could have been interesting (and perheps quite scary) to have a brain more fully activated than just the little percentage it operates from, perheps this is an option for our humanity to go towards (but, voting for a heart fully functioning simultaneously!). But the science of our brain and bodies (and soul construct) may be so different to what we percieve as there are so many interferences and the numbers of players involved is ading up, so maybe Cliff High was not so off the charts in his assumption, Sunny

Freedom for the human race = freedom for all ~

[Bill Ryan]

I used to read Clif High's website and download his "predictive linguistics" predictions. One day I read a description on George Ure's "Urban Survival" website of how the predictive linguistics works. If I understand it correctly (this is from my memory), it is something like this: We are all psychic and unconsciously we know what will happen in the future, so we are always dropping clues in our speech to what we unconsciouly know. Clif goes to a number of websites and forums and analyzes which words are used frequently in the posts. Then he writes predictions based on the words. For instance, if he found that many people were using the words "cheese", "car" and "health", he might make a prediction that "People having accidents while eating cheese in their cars could be a health concern." Forgive me if I have misunderstood his methodology, but after hearing about this, I stopped reading his website. I would take what he has to say with a grain of salt.

Yes, that's pretty much how it worked. My own take on it is that he was very often quite wrong (this can quite easily be seen retrospectively), and many in the alternative community — always hungry for predictions, especially those that sounded 'scientific' — were far too quick to accept uncritically what he was forecasting.

As I mentioned in my first post,


He was 100% convinced there'd be a pole shift on 21 Dec [2012], and was building an unsinkable boat to survive the catastrophe.

That tells us something. I'm not ridiculing the man — he's highly intelligent and means well, and when he stated in his haboo1 Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L07MsC5to5Y) video that most of the information believed by the alternative community is quite wrong [my paraphrase], he may himself have learned quite a lot over the years... in which case, kudos to him.

[gord]

I really admire this kind of fiction.

I'll add some random stuff that popped into my head while I watched the Clif High haboo1 videos.

I'll take the word 'State' in the title of the thread to mean 'cabal' or 'TPTB' - whatever. Just my viewpoint, because I'm anti-cabal, not anti-state.

I don't understand what mechanism would produce similar enough facial characteristics in a current incarnation to be recognizable as an incarnation previously inhabiting a different body unless the current one is at least distantly a descendant of the previous one.

I remember around 1983 some Tibetans showed up about 25 miles south of where I live looking for an incarnation of someone they somehow knew would be there. They declared him a recognized incarnation of someone important to them and this child (a pre-teenager if I remember correctly) was allowed to return with them. So, Tibetans apparently have some other means of recognition from halfway around the world.

I've been fascinated with all things related to Cayce since about 1973, when I was about 10, and I'm an ARE member. I understand that Edgar Cayce described a means, through some physical characteristic, of recognizing those who had been associated with him going into the very distant past. I don't know what that physical characteristic is, and I think it has not been generally been made known. It's probably why the ARE rejects the idea that David Wilcock was previously Edgar Cayce.

Of course the Cayce stuff says you can reincarnate to or from somewhere other than earth.

Since I long ago realized that absolutely anything can be used as a tool, a toy, or a weapon, I've wondered from time to time if the group of people who absolutely must have birth data for every person on earth, have been looking for recognizable patterns in natal charts, for clues as to who they might want to mess with, in the sense of a preemptive strike.

You have to wonder, if your higher self (or oversoul or whatever) is the real you, and is connected to all of your incarnations where there is no time, there might be a way for some or many of those incarnations to communicate (and used as a tool, a toy, or a weapon).

My opinion on the 'war across time': yes, and a very long and nasty one at that.

That's enough wild phantasmagorical speculative fiction from me.

[sigma6]

I'm surprised nobody added this one...

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[Rhah]

Here are some relevant excerpts from W. C. Vetsch's book called "TEXT" related to reincarnation, and reincarnation tracking by the government:


KARMA AND REINCARNATION
Most people living on the Earth today have lived here for a long time - in other bodies. In a way of speaking, everyone here "lives physically forever" because they keep coming back over and over. But, because most people do not understand that life is continuous, they feel the present life is "special" and that they are "new creations" and they probably also feel that death is the "end" and so they want to cram all the fun they can into the present life. Such an attitude essentially GUARANTEES future lives here on Earth.


SECRET METHODS OF GOVERNMENTS
Tyrants and dictators who kill millions of people in their quest for power and glory do not qualify, under the Law Of Karma and Reincarnation to receive another Human body. They would normally be sent back as some lower form [dog,etc.].
Clearly, these wealthy evil masters do not want to be a dog or a cat or whatever - they want to continue to be human and they want to avoid being judged by the Angles of Death who come for the ordinary man and take him away to face judgment. With their gold and power and influence, they spend a good part of their energy on the goal of everlasting physical life in the Human form regardless of how seriously they have transgressed the Laws of GOD or how many innocent people they have killed and tortured to get to the position of power they are in. Enter the "steal-a-new-body-machine".
We call it this for want of a better word and it is an electric- magnetic device that creates the illusion of a separate Universe [unified field] in which things can be tailored to the wishes of the elite. Consequently, when a crooked politician ages and is near death, he goes to the secret underground center where this equipment is set up.
In the artificially created universe are only three things: The old man, a "freshly pregnant girl" and the unborn child of the girl which, because she is "freshly pregnant" does not yet have a soul. The Law Of Karma, which is mechanical in nature, searches for the appropriate candidate for the reincarnation of the old man. If he would have died "in the open" this would likely be a dog, cat, rat, etc. to "reward" him for his life of evil.
However, the only possible candidate is the "freshly pregnant" girl's unborn child because the special fields generated by the "steal-a-new-body-machine" have "tricked" mother nature into believing that the Universe contains only the man, girl, and unborn child. The man is not available because his body is now dead. The girl already has a soul and so the only choice mother nature can find in this "fake universe" is the unborn child and therefore the crooked politician gets that body.
The process is reported to have reached complete perfection in the 1960's and is said to be now 100% efficient with no losses at all. If you get the feeling, when you watch government people that they are very arrogant, this is one of the reasons why. They physically live forever and their personal wealth consistently increases with time.


OPTION II
For politicians who do not like the "waiting period" [and apparently most do not], there is an alternate "steal a new body" method.
This method was developed by accident after repeated failures by Nicola Tesla to perfect a "Star Trek" style transporter. Tesla was able to transport non living things, but living creatures always turned up dead at the other end.
Eventually, occult advisors suggested that living things were dying in transport because only the physical part of the life form was being moved. The other four parts, the Astral, Causal and Mental "bodies" as well as the Soul, were not being transported and remained at the origin point.
Tesla did not solve this problem, but the "broken" transporter and the occult explanation gave rise to a new use for this "failed invention". It could be used to transfer from one body to another. In this process, two people [one who needs a new physical body and one who is going to be "screwed over"] are put into the transporter. The transporter dematerializes the physical bodies and rematerializes in reverse positions. The Astral [etc.] bodies do not move. No one dies because this time there is a support matrix [Astral, etc.] in place at the materialization position - but it is from the other person.
This is essentially "backwards" from classic possession where an adept separates his Astral body and moves it to look for a [stationary] physical body to take over. Here it is the physical body that is moved by the machine and the Astral is stationary.
The advantage is, of course, that you do not have to be any kind of "adept" to use this method. You just need the [top secret, of course] machine.
Getting a new body this way is described as "just as easy as stepping in to a telephone booth". The advantage is you get a new young body which you can "pick out" which is fully grown and ready to go. The disadvantage is that some sucker is going to have his young life cut short so you can extend yours.
However, killing people has never been a big moral concern for governments and their bigwigs.


REINCARNATION TRACKING
The Government is engaged in a program to identify all live human births that take place on the Planet Earth and record and document them.
One possible use of this would be a re-incarnation tracking system to identify people not by who they appear to be (the son/daughter of so-and-so ) but by actually assigning identification numbers to individual souls who will have more than one physical lifetime as a human being.
The most likely reason to spend money on this as a high priority project is to try to determine - as was done in the time of JESUS - where there is a newborn child who might be an important soul (a future leader) and then hurry up and kill the child before he grows up and poses any real threat to "the establishment".
There is no legitimate reason for the U.S. Government to want all the records of live births from other countries unless it is to compile some type of shared database for the use of all the countries in the "new world order".

Obviously I can't speak on the validity of the information presented in this book. But it certainly is a very, very interesting read. I will attach a .pdf file.

[Hervé]

Let me have a try at some ratatouille here:

Mix:


how former, deceased lamas are tracked down in young children (mostly male) to get them back in the fold
Steve Richards' "First-born rights"
"Herod"'s elimination of all first borns to make sure he got rid of that pesky foretold Messiah
...

... how does it taste?

[Heartsong]

So are they ignoring genetics? I have my Dad's skin tone, my mother's eyes, the bow legs of my grandmother's family. Would they be tracing them too?

[Hym]

There is a new t.v. series in the states, Second Chance, where the theme of soul transference is presented. A 75 yr.old sheriff, after his murder, is resouled into the body of a healthy 35 year old, both without their consent. The genius twin brother and sister duo doing the mechanics of this transfer do so in the hope of finding a possible cure for the sister's terminal cancer. The trade-off for the reborn sheriff is he gets the opportunity to right some of his wrongs and prevent the death of his detective son at the hands of the police who murdered him. The theme of the series presents many moral, ethical and scientific dilemas to the viewer, many of which have been presented in this thread.

I skim all of my viewing when it comes to presentations like this because I know the limitations of the creators. It is never their job to present the hidden truth to the viewer. That is not the objective. That is the objective of a documentary or of an honest writer to present in the form of a fictional narrative, but only out of the need not to be killed, and is counter to anyone presenting the truth for a company, a conglomerate or a media empire controlled by manipulative beings. The goal of the controlled series writer is to present a portion of the truth and then to assign it's existence to a fiction, or a designated patsy, a Hegelian brother in arms....a China, a Russia, a non-western enemy, an alien....

Some are looking forward to just such a series in the X-Files but I cringe thinking about the manipulation necessary to present it to the public....and of COURSE to make it palatable for the sponsors income. I do not take to being jerked around, so I refrain from spending any length of time on entertainment, unless I'm in a group doing the entertaining and it is so big that their is no room for an audience.......The more you are entertained, the less you live. It is not that complicated, my friend.
You can watch the stripper. I'll go on a vacation with her sister and send you a postcard.


If you were born into one of the world's major religions you most likely do not know that many native cultures celebrate the entrance of the soul into a mother's body on the 120th day of gestation, 120 days from conception. These celebrations are held in many lands by a wide variety of indigenous cultures, but only those not adulterated or influenced into adopting western saviors.

Most natives consider westerners and their religions as the true pagans, godless by their genocidal actions and their propensity to destroy nature. The "God" of the west always has dollar signs in his eyes and he spreads unnatural fear. If those under his service weren't feeding off of you, at his dining table, at his buffet, then he would simply kill you. He still walks the lands of the planet thru his control of human emotion....He accurately tells you to fear him because that is his stock and trade. Natives understand. Their problem is that they too are stuck in time, and of course are not armed well enough to defend themselves.

[Curiosity]

I just want to add a couple points here. Gene pools are strong in a lot of cases.

You can fine pictures of a relative from several generations in the past that looks like a clone or twin of a relative in the present. Does that mean reincarnation?
How do you explain a son that looks identical to a father, both still alive?

You look at a picture of my brother at age 20 something and a pic of my father when he was 20 something, you can't tell them apart except for the height difference. All my family is short on both sides except for my brother and one uncle. The uncle bares no resemblance to the rest of the family.

My bother in-law looks so much like me people think we are brothers, but there is no family blood whatsoever.

There are also stories and pictures of people who look alike that have no family ties whatsoever throughout history living in the same time periods.

Let me also point out that attitude, personality, mind set and emotions highly influence what your face looks like.A good example of this would be multiple personality syndrome schizophrenia. I had a girlfriend with this and their were times I had to do a double take to see who walked into the room because her face changed so drastically between personality change she looked so different. You can see this in practiced actors/actresses etc.

You have to also keep in mind that a lot of people not only age well, but die their hair, get face lifts etc. to remain looking young.

[Flash]

Here are some relevant excerpts from W. C. Vetsch's book called "TEXT" related to reincarnation, and reincarnation tracking by the government:


KARMA AND REINCARNATION
Most people living on the Earth today have lived here for a long time - in other bodies. In a way of speaking, everyone here "lives physically forever" because they keep coming back over and over. But, because most people do not understand that life is continuous, they feel the present life is "special" and that they are "new creations" and they probably also feel that death is the "end" and so they want to cram all the fun they can into the present life. Such an attitude essentially GUARANTEES future lives here on Earth.


SECRET METHODS OF GOVERNMENTS
Tyrants and dictators who kill millions of people in their quest for power and glory do not qualify, under the Law Of Karma and Reincarnation to receive another Human body. They would normally be sent back as some lower form [dog,etc.].
Clearly, these wealthy evil masters do not want to be a dog or a cat or whatever - they want to continue to be human and they want to avoid being judged by the Angles of Death who come for the ordinary man and take him away to face judgment. With their gold and power and influence, they spend a good part of their energy on the goal of everlasting physical life in the Human form regardless of how seriously they have transgressed the Laws of GOD or how many innocent people they have killed and tortured to get to the position of power they are in. Enter the "steal-a-new-body-machine".
We call it this for want of a better word and it is an electric- magnetic device that creates the illusion of a separate Universe [unified field] in which things can be tailored to the wishes of the elite. Consequently, when a crooked politician ages and is near death, he goes to the secret underground center where this equipment is set up.
In the artificially created universe are only three things: The old man, a "freshly pregnant girl" and the unborn child of the girl which, because she is "freshly pregnant" does not yet have a soul. The Law Of Karma, which is mechanical in nature, searches for the appropriate candidate for the reincarnation of the old man. If he would have died "in the open" this would likely be a dog, cat, rat, etc. to "reward" him for his life of evil.
However, the only possible candidate is the "freshly pregnant" girl's unborn child because the special fields generated by the "steal-a-new-body-machine" have "tricked" mother nature into believing that the Universe contains only the man, girl, and unborn child. The man is not available because his body is now dead. The girl already has a soul and so the only choice mother nature can find in this "fake universe" is the unborn child and therefore the crooked politician gets that body.
The process is reported to have reached complete perfection in the 1960's and is said to be now 100% efficient with no losses at all. If you get the feeling, when you watch government people that they are very arrogant, this is one of the reasons why. They physically live forever and their personal wealth consistently increases with time.


OPTION II
For politicians who do not like the "waiting period" [and apparently most do not], there is an alternate "steal a new body" method.
This method was developed by accident after repeated failures by Nicola Tesla to perfect a "Star Trek" style transporter. Tesla was able to transport non living things, but living creatures always turned up dead at the other end.
Eventually, occult advisors suggested that living things were dying in transport because only the physical part of the life form was being moved. The other four parts, the Astral, Causal and Mental "bodies" as well as the Soul, were not being transported and remained at the origin point.
Tesla did not solve this problem, but the "broken" transporter and the occult explanation gave rise to a new use for this "failed invention". It could be used to transfer from one body to another. In this process, two people [one who needs a new physical body and one who is going to be "screwed over"] are put into the transporter. The transporter dematerializes the physical bodies and rematerializes in reverse positions. The Astral [etc.] bodies do not move. No one dies because this time there is a support matrix [Astral, etc.] in place at the materialization position - but it is from the other person.
This is essentially "backwards" from classic possession where an adept separates his Astral body and moves it to look for a [stationary] physical body to take over. Here it is the physical body that is moved by the machine and the Astral is stationary.
The advantage is, of course, that you do not have to be any kind of "adept" to use this method. You just need the [top secret, of course] machine.
Getting a new body this way is described as "just as easy as stepping in to a telephone booth". The advantage is you get a new young body which you can "pick out" which is fully grown and ready to go. The disadvantage is that some sucker is going to have his young life cut short so you can extend yours.
However, killing people has never been a big moral concern for governments and their bigwigs.


REINCARNATION TRACKING
The Government is engaged in a program to identify all live human births that take place on the Planet Earth and record and document them.
One possible use of this would be a re-incarnation tracking system to identify people not by who they appear to be (the son/daughter of so-and-so ) but by actually assigning identification numbers to individual souls who will have more than one physical lifetime as a human being.
The most likely reason to spend money on this as a high priority project is to try to determine - as was done in the time of JESUS - where there is a newborn child who might be an important soul (a future leader) and then hurry up and kill the child before he grows up and poses any real threat to "the establishment".
There is no legitimate reason for the U.S. Government to want all the records of live births from other countries unless it is to compile some type of shared database for the use of all the countries in the "new world order".

Obviously I can't speak on the validity of the information presented in this book. But it certainly is a very, very interesting read. I will attach a .pdf file.

That is very interesting. I was told exactly the above and more by someone in the alternative communities years ago (2011-12), before anyone had ever heard of such things in the alternative community, but much after the publications of Vetsch (1992). My bet is that it is something happening, or something similar is happening, yet, it is well known by higher cabal, but not by the alternative communities. All in all, Vetsch is not that known in the alternative community (first time I hear of him, maybe I am biaised and he is more known than I imagine), so how would this person come with yet more information if that person was not very well informed by the cabal?

One of the things not described above I remember, is that sometimes those old fa rts (bad high levels politicians or high levels cabal) do not want to jump to another body, instinct taking over, before they die, and they have to be forced, kind of shaken out of the old body, over and above the machine help. Some human cabal members specialize in this kind of forcing. And that the old f ar t may jump in either an existing adult or a newborn, in members related to the cabal. If they die in an accident, and could therefore not use the machine, they will be searched for through different means.

How true it is, I do not know. But it surely is interesting.

Parkes was telling me, on the other hand, that there was a soul incarnating split for using human bodies, agreed for eath bodies, the split being at about 1 out of 3 birth would have a Drac soul, 1/3 a real earth human soul, 20% a higher human soul and the remaining coming from all over (the last third being for all other races souls). However, this could be tricked, like having body snatching, etc.

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, All — my apologies for quite inadvertently derailing the thread by posting a [1924!] photo of myself. I'd genuinely not meant to trigger an intrigue. :)

I've moved (or partially copied) all those post responses to this new Members-only thread... it's a pretty interesting tale, but doesn't belong here where we're discussing Clif High's own story!

Bill's 1924 Everest expedition photograph (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88271-Bill-s-1924-Everest-expedition-photograph)

:focus:

[Sunny-side-up]

Flash: "Not having time to clean up after an incarnation and reincarnating too soon too often would make you become more and more corrupt."

I suspect that what we call time does not exist between incarnations. If there is any sign of corruption in the makeup of the next incarnation, it was likely planned.

Maybe miss used hidden knowledge for forced, meddling, Occult rituals by them PTW negative blood lines has deepened their negativity,

Not having time to clean up after an incarnation and reincarnating too soon too often would make you become more and more corrupt.
maybe for a desired result or is just that negative miss used side effect!

[Sunny-side-up]

A very interesting story this, but I have one exception to something Clif said, which also Lone Bean pointed out. It is my understanding and belief that one of the most important aspects of living multiple lives, is diversity of experience. It makes no sense to me, and cannot really work, if a soul is restricted to just one race, or even one sex.

I believe we have to experience life from almost every standpoint, background, culture, language, race and gender, etc, at least once at any rate, in order to gain wisdom and humility from all these differing growth 'templates' - to evolve through tribulation, transition, and ultimately revelation, until our lessons are learned. Accountability - Karma - also comes into that. I can imagine a hateful life time, in which one has been responsible for judging, harming, even persecuting, someone of a different race, gender, or lifestyle - and in the next life time experiencing the other end of it. Eg, a former Nazi experiences what it’s really like to live as a Jew.

Where would your higher-self, collective-consciousness come into your view? We have a collective knowledge base if we learn to connect!
no need to learn!
We are being played over and over again.

[DbDraad]

High all, quite new around here.
Facial recognition is already quite advanced if a videogame console like the Xbox One can recognise me when I walk into the room. The extra hardware to this sells for anout $100. What kind of levels can be reach with better hardware an software algorithms? Frightening prospect!

On a different note, I've been tracking my family tree for a while now and finally registered on a genealogy website for my family name in South Africa and was pleasantly surprised when I was able to track my heritage 10 generations back to the arrival of my patriarch in the late 1600's!...well, back to topic. On the banner at the top of that site's home page is a very old family photo, which I presumed was one of the earliest family photos they could find. Well after enquiries, I was told that it came with the software. I searched for the developers a bit, without finding a way to contact them....Next step was an image snip and google search for the same image. I got less than a handful of hits, and guess what, a totally unrelated family genealogy site using the same software! Well after some enquires I'm waiting for a reply from tanotherhe site administrator. What brings me to the point: What if I made a mistake and that photo was bait for having people with certain features contact them? My son is the spitting image of the boy in the photo, like I was at the same age and the same can be said about the father in the photo and my GF, generations later. I'll let you know if I find any more info on the pic.

Regards,

Dan

[Curiosity]

High all, quite new around here.
Facial recognition is already quite advanced if a videogame console like the Xbox One can recognise me when I walk into the room. The extra hardware to this sells for anout $100. What kind of levels can be reach with better hardware an software algorithms? Frightening prospect!

On a different note, I've been tracking my family tree for a while now and finally registered on a genealogy website for my family name in South Africa and was pleasantly surprised when I was able to track my heritage 10 generations back to the arrival of my patriarch in the late 1600's!...well, back to topic. On the banner at the top of that site's home page is a very old family photo, which I presumed was one of the earliest family photos they could find. Well after enquiries, I was told that it came with the software. I searched for the developers a bit, without finding a way to contact them....Next step was an image snip and google search for the same image. I got less than a handful of hits, and guess what, a totally unrelated family genealogy site using the same software! Well after some enquires I'm waiting for a reply from tanotherhe site administrator. What brings me to the point: What if I made a mistake and that photo was bait for having people with certain features contact them? My son is the spitting image of the boy in the photo, like I was at the same age and the same can be said about the father in the photo and my GF, generations later. I'll let you know if I find any more info on the pic.

Regards,

Dan

You should exercise some caution with your investigations.

[TrumanCash]

I just found this thread. Wow! This is the phenomenon that I documented in THE EYE OF RA, which I discovered from my own past life memories and that of other abductees that I worked with twenty years ago.

Then I read Flash's post #2 which I quote in part:

Parkes did tell me that people who could have an impact on the reptilian or mantid or Cabal's agenda were followed from incarnation to incarnation, by any or all of these groups, their soul vibration being tracked. It they had ruined or hampered the agenda in previous lifes, everything was done in the present life to make all kinds of trouble to them to make sure they were not successful, or deactivated in their mission, or they were courted to try to have them change camp, or they were used and abused for all kinds of MkUltra trials and other stuff. In any ways, they were stopped as much as possible.

However, if they had been helpful or were part of the group in a previous incarnation, they would be tracked as well to be reintegrated in the given group.

I am assuming Flash is referring to Simon Parkes. Simon has confirmed other phenomena that I had detailed in my book twenty years ago such as the "going to the light" and "light at the end of tunnel" phenomenon. At the other end of this wormhole kind of tunnel is a physical ship of some kind. In my case it is a rather large, spherical implanting facility. However, I have heard reports of other types of technology with apparently smaller vessels. Simon also confirmed the technology of implanting a being in a body that I had described over twenty years ago.

I can verify from my own personal experiences that the quote above is accurate. This is a very real technology that I know the Mantids have because I have been the receiver of this technology over the past twelve millennia. However, I have no information regarding what any human government may have with this technology.

I detailed my experiences in the EYE OF RA chapter entitled "In-Between Lives Implants and Out of Body Abductions" (p. 98 of the PDF, link below). This chapter ties into chapter 1 & 2 of the book and it reveals how the Mantids work with other ET groups such as the human-looking "gods" of the winged serpent group.

At this juncture in my present lifetime I am in what I perceive to be in a relatively neutral status as I am not being attacked in any way and I am not being abducted. One might call it a truce.

I understand the basic dynamics of the situation and I understand--but do not agree with--the Mantids' solution to the problem. Essentially, their solution to handle the troublemaker beings (like me who never stop questioning authority) is to wipe their memories in this artificial reincarnation system so as to reduce awareness of one's spiritual identity.

Mantids also work with the human-looking, bearded "gods", known in the past under such names as Ra, Ptah, Marduk, Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, Isis, Ishtar, Shakti, Hecate, etc, etc, that are the creators of the sun god/winged serpent religions around the globe.

By creating many conflicting belief systems around the planet, it keeps people fussin' and fightin' with each other in endless wars to distract people from discovering who they really are and the nature of reality.

I am very much looking forward to leaving this area of the universe after this incarnation. This area (and especially this planet) is, IMHO, too phuktup and is designed to block spiritual awareness and positive beingness. It is insane.

[onawah]

By "coincidence" I just stumbled upon this old thread, and the thread here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?88271-Bill-s-1924-Everest-expedition-photograph
neither of which I think I was aware of before, though reincarnation has always been a subject of great interest to me, so I am bumping this very interesting thread.
I have been able to trace back lifetimes of a few members of my soul group who I have known personally because, being fairly intuitive, I feel I can recognize the essence of a soul.
...Which for me, is often detected fairly easily by the expression in the eyes, the eyes being what many feel are "the windows of the soul".

Also worthy of mention here may be the subject of what Carlos Castenada's mentor Don Juan Matus described as "the Double", which I interpret to mean a soul which is incarnate in two bodies at the same time.
Matus felt that only what he called a "warrior" is powerful and skillful enough to manifest in that way, but that it could be fatal if the two bodies were to actually meet.
My own feeling about this phenomena is that it may occur when a soul has a very important purpose that requires two bodies in which to complete the tasks needed to fulfill that purpose.
Another uncommon phenomena worthy of mention here occurs when a soul feels that it is time to finish up with the current lifetime, though there are still years remaining potentially to that soul's physical body to continue on.
The soul leaves the body, but another soul known as a "Walk-in", which is currently without a body, takes up residence in the former soul's body, complete with memories.
So the second soul is able to also take on the identity of the first soul as well as the body, though I'm not clear as to whether the second soul is aware of its previous identity or not.

It is an interesting coincidence to me that I found this thread recently, shortly after I had posted the following, a good case in point of the eyes being "the windows of the soul".
...Though in this case, I don't believe the subject is a member of my particular soul group, but I did have a strong "AHA!" moment when I saw the eyes of Sir Isaac Newton in the portrait (below) and felt that I recognized them to be the eyes of the soul of someone currently incarnate, Ben Davidson, who I have not met but whose work I have been studying:


I cannot comment on the data but I think it's kind of interesting that Newton in this photo:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.fineartamerica.com%2Fimages-medium-large%2F1689-sir-isaac-newton-portrait-young-paul-d-stewart.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=dd5fadb4aed7f575b1c160c3c2323eb46eff2734e1c0fab4e0c626ac489e89ec
...bears a strong resemblance to Ben Davidson of SpaceWeatherNews, who is also brilliant (a speed reader with a very retentive memory and a rare case of Hyperthymesia, is very innovative, astute in the fields of math, astrophysics, meteorolgy, etc....though he is only 40 years old. I've seen that very same critical expression on his face in many of his youtube videos as we see on Newton's face in the portrait.
More about Ben's background here: https://suspicious0bservers.org/about-faq/)
Two photos of Ben: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP.c1gZ1Ofz2Xw_lFislF_LwQHaEK%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=528f804848587d22d6d874f6ab230c708714947977314df65f1295b48a1acd3f&ipo=images
https://photos.brighteon.com/file/brighteon-thumbnails/poster/9a11c7ac-150f-4ef1-a5c2-2cd3afedcc4e

Recently in Ben's Q&A sessions on youtube, and especially after a very recent and traumatic divorce from an unfaithful wife, he has been demonstrating some unusually aberrant behavior.

And this is a description from: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Isaac-Newton
...of Newton's volatile nature, probably due in part to traumatic events from his childhood:

Deprived of a father before birth, he soon lost his mother as well, for within two years she married a second time; her husband, the well-to-do minister Barnabas Smith, left young Isaac with his grandmother and moved to a neighbouring village to raise a son and two daughters. For nine years, until the death of Barnabas Smith in 1653, Isaac was effectively separated from his mother, and his pronounced psychotic tendencies have been ascribed to this traumatic event. That he hated his stepfather we may be sure. When he examined the state of his soul in 1662 and compiled a catalog of sins in shorthand, he remembered “Threatening my father and mother Smith to burne them and the house over them.” The acute sense of insecurity that rendered him obsessively anxious when his work was published and irrationally violent when he defended it accompanied Newton throughout his life and can plausibly be traced to his early years.
Also:

When Newton received the bachelor’s degree in April 1665, the most remarkable undergraduate career in the history of university education had passed unrecognized. On his own, without formal guidance, he had sought out the new philosophy and the new mathematics and made them his own, but he had confined the progress of his studies to his notebooks.

Both extremely dedicated,"bookish" scholars, both original and innovative, though controversial in their work.
More evidence of Newton's very tempermental nature related to controversy:

Newton was also engaged in another exchange on his theory of colours with a circle of English Jesuits in Liège, perhaps the most revealing exchange of all. Although their objections were shallow, their contention that his experiments were mistaken lashed him into a fury. The correspondence dragged on until 1678, when a final shriek of rage from Newton, apparently accompanied by a complete nervous breakdown, was followed by silence. The death of his mother the following year completed his isolation. For six years he withdrew from intellectual commerce except when others initiated a correspondence, which he always broke off as quickly as possible.

And

When the Royal Society received the completed manuscript of Book I in 1686, Hooke raised the cry of plagiarism, a charge that cannot be sustained in any meaningful sense. On the other hand, Newton’s response to it reveals much about him. Hooke would have been satisfied with a generous acknowledgment; it would have been a graceful gesture to a sick man already well into his decline, and it would have cost Newton nothing. Newton, instead, went through his manuscript and eliminated nearly every reference to Hooke. Such was his fury that he refused either to publish his Opticks or to accept the presidency of the Royal Society until Hooke was dead.
More at https://www.britannica.com/biography/Isaac-Newton/The-Principia ... about Newton's very colorful life, how he became quite a wealthy man, was very religious and found fulfillment in associating with other innovative scientists.

Criticisms have been registered here on the forum about Davidson's temper tantrums, his apparent acquisitiveness and his religion, but members who have been monitoring his work closely, including Bill Ryan, believe his scientific work has a lot of merit.
More about his very rare case of Hyperthymesia here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?129813-Is-Ben-Davidson-starting-to-run-a-Doomsday-cult&p=1674906&viewfull=1#post1674906

I could certainly be wrong (and this is not exactly on topic so please pardon the diversion) but I am fairly intuitive and have often matched up past lives with current lives of various people of my acquaintance.
Though I don't know Davidson personally, my strong hunch is that this is another reincarnation match.
His accomplishments so far have been remarkable considering how controversial his work is and how a lot of it has been done single handedly, but he has reached a certain landmark now with Observer Ranch and it will be interesting to see how the work proceeds.
He has a second book coming out now and a new documentary due this Fall.
Hopefully he will be able to heal more easily than Newton did, and his Hyperthymesia prove to be more of a gift than a deterrant, as I think he has an important role to play. But much may depend on whether he can maintain emotional balance.
Newton lived to the age of 84, and Ben has the kind of ears which signal longevity in the ancient (and very accurate) art of Chinese Medicine, so he may well survive beyond the pole shift he is helping many Preppers to be ready for.



For "intellectual inspiration" Linconshire also appears to be tops, as it was there that Sir Isaac Newton, "studying in isolation", invented calculus, the binomial theorem, the law of universal gravitation and the discovery of the composite nature of white light - all at the tender age of twenty three and immediately after leaving Trinity College, Cambridge, where his academic career was said to be "undistinguished".

[onawah]

I think it's unfortunate that there is so much fascination with AI, when humanity today knows so little about human intelligence and sentient consciousness!
On the whole, it seems more has been forgotten (that was known in civilizations from the past) than is currently known.
But that would no doubt be inevitable, since the most evolved humans generally stop incarnating on Earth and move on, while younger souls continue to begin incarnating here for 3D reality schooling.
...And evolution in this reality seems to be as much cyclical as it is progressive.

[Johnnycomelately]

Responding to Onawah’s bump post, #52.

Onawah, interesting aspect of the eyes, for such identifying across incarnations. Truly, the appearance presented by our eyes seems the most personal of “tells” our inner nature, which I think does not change between earthly lives.

Don’t know where I learned the idea that personal presentations are maintained across incarnations, but the one thing I remembered was that hair styles were one. Needs a new para.

Short story. While traveling through Pakistan in midish 90’s, went through a museum, looked at an exhibit of historical coins. I don’t recall if I ever registered the time scale, tho iirc they were in temporal order. Thing I noticed was, every once in a while the coin image (they were almost all head images) had a quite similar hairstyle. I had no idea about these rulers, but at the time I had the thought that worldly-powerful people maybe returned as powerful people. Since then I’ve put it together with genes and incarnating along family lines.


Cheers pal. Sorry to bother you about differences in takes recently.

[onawah]

That's OK. I'm glad you've found some common ground with me again.:waving:


Responding to Onawah’s bump post, #52.

Onawah, interesting aspect of the eyes, for such identifying across incarnations. Truly, the appearance presented by our eyes seems the most personal of “tells” our inner nature, which I think does not change between earthly lives.

Don’t know where I learned the idea that personal presentations are maintained across incarnations, but the one thing I remembered was that hair styles were one. Needs a new para.

Short story. While traveling through Pakistan in midish 90’s, went through a museum, looked at an exhibit of historical coins. I don’t recall if I ever registered the time scale, tho iirc they were in temporal order. Thing I noticed was, every once in a while the coin image (they were almost all head images) had a quite similar hairstyle. I had no idea about these rulers, but at the time I had the thought that worldly-powerful people maybe returned as powerful people. Since then I’ve put it together with genes and incarnating along family lines.


Cheers pal. Sorry to bother you about differences in takes recently.