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angelfire
15th January 2016, 15:53
You couldn"t make it up. Except that they have!
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/medical-trials-leave-five-seriously-ill-102631998.html
Five volunteers are seriously ill in hospital after a medical trial at a private clinic in France.
One of the five is described as "brain dead" while the other four are critically ill, according to the newspaper Ouest France.
A sixth person has been taken to hospital, but is not thought to be seriously affected.
The trial is related to a cannabis-based painkiller, according to reports - research led by the UK-based laboratory Biotrial.
A total of eight people, aged 30-50, had taken part in the trial, but two were given a placebo, according to reports.
"A serious accident took place during a therapeutic trial near Rennes," Health Minister Marisol Touraine said.
She added that the trial had been halted and all volunteers taking part recalled.
The minister said the six patients had been in good health until taking the oral medication.
The study was a Phase I clinical trial, where healthy volunteers take medication to evaluate its safety.
"Undertaking Phase 1 studies is highly specialist work," said Daniel Hawcutt, a lecturer in clinical pharmacology at the University of Liverpool.
Medicines then go into larger Phase II and Phase III trials to assess their effectiveness and safety before they are finally approved for sale.
Ms Touraine expressed her "deep determination to get to the bottom... of this tragic accident".
Biotrial said in a statement: "During (...) a study which was being conducted for a sponsor, serious adverse events related to the test drug have occurred in some subjects.
"The trial has been conducted in full compliance with the international regulations and Biotrial's procedures were followed at every stage throughout the trial, in particular the emergency procedures for the transfer of subjects to the hospital.
"We are in close and regular contact with the Health Authorities and Ministry in France.
"The priority at Biotrial remains the safety of our subjects. We are very grateful for the support we have been receiving from our clients and partners today."
The first five volunteers to fall ill were taken into hospital earlier this week, French media said.
The sixth volunteer, who is not seriously ill, was taken to hospital today as a precaution.
A statement issued by the French health ministry confirmed that one of the volunteers is in an "état de mort cérébrale", or "brain dead."
Medical lawyer Philippe Courtois told French media: "This is the most serious case I have come across."
A formal investigation has been opened in Paris.
The emergency comes almost 10 years after six students were left seriously ill after a medical trial in London.
In that case, the six volunteers had a severe immune reaction which was triggered by the antibody drug, TGN1412.
They survived after intensive care treatment, but were told they faced a lifetime risk of cancer and arthritis.
One patient lost fingers and toes to gangrene following the trial at Northwick Park Hospital in London.
Another said his head swelled up so he resembled the lead character in the film, The Elephant Man.
The six were paid up to £2,000 to take part in that trial.
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{mod edit, for clarity} As noted in the second post in this thread, using the word "cannabis" was an 'error.' The drug being tested was not cannabis, contained no cannabis, and was not a synthetic cannabis compound. Here is a video of a retraction: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1244324/Drug-does-not-contain-cannabis-French-Health-Minister.html
PurpleLama
15th January 2016, 16:00
Initially it was believed the trial involved a cannabis-based painkiller, but later reports suggested there was no cannabis in the drug.
The article has been updated, it appears.
tomfellows
15th January 2016, 17:35
Initially it was believed the trial involved a cannabis-based painkiller, but later reports suggested there was no cannabis in the drug.
The article has been updated, it appears.
It's so difficult to know whether cannabis is good or bad, .. there's so much
heated arguments both ways. They say it's good for MS, and good for dementia,
they say it's good for glaucoma, and good for arthritis, they say it's good for
skin cancers and good for pain management. And then other people say it's
evil and nasty and will make you psychotic.
How do we know who to believe ?
But.. Where did this story originally come from, with these erroneous details
about it being a drug derived from cannabis ?
Whoever they were. They are telling us fibs.
What's their agenda, that prompts them to falsify media reports ?
tom
Blacklight43
15th January 2016, 17:49
I'm living proof it works! Last year I had a severe spinal injury and had to have surgery. I am highly sensitive to chemicals, including pharmaceuticals. My doctor recommended cannabis for the pain. It got me over the hump of needing pain relief. However I do not like the feeling of being somewhat drunk. By the way I never tried the stuff until I was 72!
I guess like any other substance...it's good for some but not others.
angelfire
15th January 2016, 17:54
Initially it was believed the trial involved a cannabis-based painkiller, but later reports suggested there was no cannabis in the drug.
The article has been updated, it appears.
It's so difficult to know whether cannabis is good or bad, .. there's so much
heated arguments both ways. They say it's good for MS, and good for dementia, they say it's good for glaucoma, and good for arthritis, they say it's good for
skin cancers and good for pain management. And then other people say it's
evil and nasty and will make you psychotic.
How do we know who to believe ?
But.. Where did this story originally come from, with these erroneous details
about it being a drug derived from cannabis ?
Whoever they were. They are telling us fibs.
What's their agenda, that prompts them to falsify media reports ?
tom
The agenda to my way of thinking is to discredit the use of cannabis as an effective cure for some cancers - fairly well documented now. I agree that smoking cannabis, or rather skunk ,can induce pschotic episodes but cannabis oil is not the same thing and has very different effects, as far as I'm aware.
Interesting too that this report follows hot on the heels of this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11820620/US-government-says-cannabis-kills-cancer-cells.html
Jhonie
15th January 2016, 17:54
I got a notice in the mail asking me to participate in drug trials. They included a phone number so I called and told them to take me off their list. That I did not consider illness to be a result of the lack of chemicals.
3(C)+me
15th January 2016, 18:19
I got a notice in the mail asking me to participate in drug trials. They included a phone number so I called and told them to take me off their list. That I did not consider illness to be a result of the lack of chemicals.
Good one, funny!
Sierra
15th January 2016, 18:22
As far as I know, no one has ever died from using cannabis.
Alcohol, pharmaceuticals... Another story, entirely.
Dennis Leahy
15th January 2016, 18:23
Initially it was believed the trial involved a cannabis-based painkiller, but later reports suggested there was no cannabis in the drug.The article has been updated, it appears.
It's so difficult to know whether cannabis is good or bad, .. there's so much
heated arguments both ways. They say it's good for MS, and good for dementia, they say it's good for glaucoma, and good for arthritis, they say it's good for
skin cancers and good for pain management. And then other people say it's
evil and nasty and will make you psychotic.
How do we know who to believe ?
But.. Where did this story originally come from, with these erroneous details
about it being a drug derived from cannabis ?
Whoever they were. They are telling us fibs.
What's their agenda, that prompts them to falsify media reports ?
tomThere has never been a fatality from cannabis smoking or ingestion. Cannabis does not cause phychosis. A patent was issued for cannabis curing "glioma", a brain cancer that can not be irradiated nor responds to pharmaceutical chemotherapy. Cannabis is the only substance that stops some forms of childhood epilepsy. You own body (mine too!) makes cannabinoids. Our bodies are full of cannabinoid receptors. Cannabinoids are "mesengers" and "actuators" and "neurotransmitters" involved with many, many processes in the body. Without cannabinoids in your body, you probably would never have been born and if so, would have died on the first day of life. Plant cannabinoids ("phytocannabinoids") mimic the ones we make ("endocannabinoids"), and since they operate at such a basic level in our bodies, probably EVERY disease and malady benefits from extra cannabinoids. It is, quite likely, the most important medicinal plant.
The negative press (lies and disinformation) originate from the pharmaceutical companies and their major stockholders (and people who do not do research, and repeat mainstream lies.) The Big Pharma mafia stands to lose billions and billions of dollars.
I too wonder who injected the meme that this was a "cannabis" drug. But I can guess.
DeDukshyn
15th January 2016, 18:30
Initially it was believed the trial involved a cannabis-based painkiller, but later reports suggested there was no cannabis in the drug.
The article has been updated, it appears.
Sabotage on cannabis by media reporting "accident"? :facepalm: Cue Bono? Big Pharma.
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I'm living proof it works! Last year I had a severe spinal injury and had to have surgery. I am highly sensitive to chemicals, including pharmaceuticals. My doctor recommended cannabis for the pain. It got me over the hump of needing pain relief. However I do not like the feeling of being somewhat drunk. By the way I never tried the stuff until I was 72!
I guess like any other substance...it's good for some but not others.
The "cannabis" reference in the initial article before the update appears to have been completely false.
tomfellows
15th January 2016, 18:37
I'm living proof it works! Last year I had a severe spinal injury and had to have surgery. I am highly sensitive to chemicals, including pharmaceuticals. My doctor recommended cannabis for the pain. It got me over the hump of needing pain relief. However I do not like the feeling of being somewhat drunk. By the way I never tried the stuff until I was 72!
I guess like any other substance...it's good for some but not others.
"I never tried the stuff until i was 72" :-) I laughed out loud.
And having tried it, would you recommend it to young people ?
Blacklight43
15th January 2016, 18:55
I would recommend for medicine yes! When I used it for the first time I laughed out loud too!!!
tomfellows
15th January 2016, 19:30
I would recommend for medicine yes! When I used it for the first time I laughed out loud too!!!
would you sit around with, say, me and Denis Leahy, smoke cannabis and talk nonsense
for the shear pleasure of talking nonsense and being social ?
Blacklight43
15th January 2016, 19:35
Certainly, but I wouldn't smoke it!!!
araucaria
15th January 2016, 19:40
Certainly, but I wouldn't smoke it!!!
You don't have to smoke it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1482031/Grandmother-ran-cannabis-cookery-club-for-neighbours.html
Tangri
15th January 2016, 20:12
It is sad that all posters arguing drug origin's. If it was cannabis involved it or not.
What I see; Terrestrial Aliens are slavering human, abducting them with the subject's consent. (in legal term: informed independents)
We argued long time if Human freewill and consent is a big obstacle to protect them from themselves. I spoke at least 100 volunteer subjects at clinical trial. They all were ready to give their consent because they need the fast cash.
Dark side this black hole is, Research Ethics Board (REB)
Article 6.4 The REB shall consist of at least five members, including both men and women, of whom:
1- at least two members have expertise in relevant research disciplines, fields and methodologies covered by the REB;
2-at least one member is knowledgeable in ethics;
3-at least one member is knowledgeable in the relevant law (but that member should not be the institution’s legal counsel or risk manager). This is mandatory for biomedical research and is advisable, but not mandatory, for other areas of research; and
4-at least one community member who has no affiliation with the institution.
Can you see the threat already there. Are These people suppose to protect human subjects or company interest?
Ethics Board does not provide Humanitarian solution but legal protection for board.
At the very end, volunteers trust the researcher's ethics. :facepalm:
Dennis Leahy
15th January 2016, 20:20
I would recommend for medicine yes! When I used it for the first time I laughed out loud too!!!
would you sit around with, say, me and Denis Leahy, smoke cannabis and talk nonsense
for the shear pleasure of talking nonsense and being social ?
Certainly, but I wouldn't smoke it!!!
You don't have to smoke it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1482031/Grandmother-ran-cannabis-cookery-club-for-neighbours.htmlIn fact, the oil obtained (not from crushing the seeds - though that is a good nutritional oil) from the flowers is what is used against the very worst diseases (like cancer), and is eaten, or taken in capsules as a suppository, or vaginally. Note also that nearly 200 different cannabinoids have been isolated from cannabis. The best known are THC (which produces euphoria as well as being a very powerful medicine) and CBD (which has no euphoric properties, but is the specific cannabinoid that stops the childhood epilepsy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH5yzEu3JGQ), notably.) Smoking (or inhaling vapors rather than smoke) is typical for acute pain relief, anxiety and depression. Smoking strictly for euphoria is a different subject (though if a person adds cannabinoids in their system, they get medical benefits even if that was not their aim.)
1 flew over
15th January 2016, 20:22
As a point of view perhaps useful and may fit here;
I have had a disease for years that has been moderately debilitating both mentally and physically and mostly unacknowledged by the western medical community. In my months/years of research through everything from stem cell therapy to people standing over someone shaking chicken feet chasing out the demons, one of the therapies that I have run across that is working well is juiced cannabis, I am also following a western approach.
There is a system developed by Dr William Courtney where he uses raw juiced cannabis ingested daily and it has proven itself to be amazingly effective. By using raw juiced cannabis you avoid Decarboxylation of the dope. That is a process that converts THCA to THC using heat or age. Without heating up, the weed does not become psychotropic (psychically active) and allows the patient to consume huge amounts of the canabinoids without being blottoed. A normal person becomes “effected” from THC at around 10mg by smoking or eating, by consuming it raw the person can consume 600- 1000mg per day, this massively increased the medicinal intake without “effecting” the patient. Even though Cannabis has many very powerful substances most are destroyed or altered by heating. It has been shown to be very effective in combating Rheumatoid arthritis, parvo, Lyme, fibroid cists, some types of cancer, severe nausea many viral disorders and many others are being worked with. There is a huge amount of data available about using juiced cannabis and or Dr William Courtney on the web or Youtube.
Between the proven anti cancerous effects, anti cataract effect, pain removal, anti nausea, wasting and many other remedies and cures that are being found using heated (see Rick Simpson oil) or juiced it is easy to see why the pharmaceutical companies are fighting with every devious mean they have to keep it out of the public hands and illegal. Wouldn’t it be a joy to just be able to grow your own medicine?
In closing I just need to say that I have not smoked a joint in around 45 years. I am borderline bipolar and it drives me almost completely psychotic and suicidal ---not fun.
Be Well
1 Flew Over
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Tangri
15th January 2016, 20:26
I rest my case and I retire now.
Awakening2014
15th January 2016, 20:46
I think central or commercial IRBs (institutional review boards, another name for an Ethics board) can be dangerous. These are businesses who make big dollars reviewing research protocols for the protection of human subjects research. Take a look at this central irb that was fictitious and had a dog listed as a board member! No joke.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-HEB-9721
I work for a small hospital irb, so I know the ins and outs well. I am very disheartened by all I see in research now that I have awakened. Commercial drug companies who sponsor their own research makes me feel very uncomfortable. Too much potential for bias all around. That being said, our members are some of the most kind hearted individuals I know and they get no compensation for the hours they work monthly pouring over new research protocols and informed consent documents. So, not all irb members and IRBs are negative. Their is a lot of corruption with the whole system itself; from the drug companies to the FDA. Just had to share the article and a little info on the individuals who review the research. Again, that being said, there is a lot of corruption and the commercialization of IRBs has done nothing but add to the problems. All research is FDA approved prior to going to any board. I do think this has a lot to do with anti marijuana propaganda. I am curious to see what the real investigational drug was in this story though.
Tangri
15th January 2016, 21:04
I think central or commercial IRBs (institutional review boards, another name for an Ethics board) can be dangerous. These are businesses who make big dollars reviewing research protocols for the protection of human subjects research. Take a look at this central irb that was fictitious and had a dog listed as a board member! No joke.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-HEB-9721
I work for a small hospital irb, so I know the ins and outs well. I am very disheartened by all I see in research now that I have awakened. Commercial drug companies who sponsor their own research makes me feel very uncomfortable. Too much potential for bias all around. That being said, our members are some of the most kind hearted individuals I know and they get no compensation for the hours they work monthly pouring over new research protocols and informed consent documents. So, not all irb members and IRBs are negative. Their is a lot of corruption with the whole system itself; from the drug companies to the FDA. Just had to share the article and a little info on the individuals who review the research. Again, that being said, there is a lot of corruption and the commercialization of IRBs has done nothing but add to the problems. All research is FDA approved prior to going to any board. I do think this has a lot to do with anti marijuana propaganda. I am curious to see what the real investigational drug was in this story though.
You are the one of a kind.
Please see link of yours below. :o
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2009/03/26/was-a-three-legged-dog-head-of-a-review-board/
Napping
15th January 2016, 21:34
Cannibas is highly effective for chronic pain and is used widely for cancer patients. The only major risk that I am aware of is a propensity to awaken schizophrenia in those susceptible or certainly exacerbate syptoms of those you have it. My uncle a good example of this. In saying that, drinking milk is bad for some people as well, it doesn't mean it should not been freely available and legal.
1 flew over
15th January 2016, 22:27
The group who are in charge of "verifying" if my disease exists consists of 15 members. I think it is 12 of them have been found to be financially involved either through research grants for never ending research to their collages or work for insurance companies who will deny claims. I pay around 90% of all my med cost in spite of my insurance.
Change of subject; the two main maladies that cannabis can cause are induced paranoia, which I suffer from so don't smoke it and its negative effects of the forming of young brains so minors should not use it. Since no one has ever been shown to have died from cannabis use and has untold medical use I think it should be dropped from the US federal governments level 1 status with the same category as heroin and cocaine because it has shown itself as having many medical benefits. According to the CDC, year after year, tobacco is responsible for about 400,000 deaths and alcohol kills about 100,000 people. In the US we have the practice of putting 7 year olds on Ritalin or Prozac because they squirm in their seats. We will also consume alcohol by the gallon and smoke cigarettes by the carton while we write our congressmen and demand that they outlaw that killer weed. We truly live in interesting times.
Be Well
1 Flew Over
Matt P
15th January 2016, 22:41
Initially it was believed the trial involved a cannabis-based painkiller, but later reports suggested there was no cannabis in the drug.
The article has been updated, it appears.
It's so difficult to know whether cannabis is good or bad, .. there's so much
heated arguments both ways. They say it's good for MS, and good for dementia,
they say it's good for glaucoma, and good for arthritis, they say it's good for
skin cancers and good for pain management. And then other people say it's
evil and nasty and will make you psychotic.
How do we know who to believe ?
But.. Where did this story originally come from, with these erroneous details
about it being a drug derived from cannabis ?
Whoever they were. They are telling us fibs.
What's their agenda, that prompts them to falsify media reports ?
tom
Hmmm, how do we know who to believe? This comments really makes me chuckle.
Do you know why cannabis is illegal in most places? Understanding this would help you understand who to believe.
It was a threat to profits, power and control, simple as that. Hemp/marijuana can be used for textiles, medicine, food...all the biggies. All the thousands of products made from petroleum byproducts can be made from hemp...cheaper, stronger and smarter. Many drugs replaced with a plant that grows like a weed in your back yard. Clothing made stronger, cheaper and lasting longer than cotton. All it takes is a little research to realize this.
This is why the powers have tried to keep it down. Not enough profit in it.
I guess I grew up differently. It has always been a normal and natural part of my entire family and we always understood and spoke openly of the contradictions and hypocrisy of our government's policy towards cannabis. Wow, I could tell you some stories.
Since everything is monitored and I live in a state where cannabis is illegal (even though it's one of our top cash crops), all I'll say is I have been a supporter of common sense policy on cannabis for many years as a business owner, husband, father and youth coach. The real crime is this plant is illegal anywhere.
Matt
Lifebringer
15th January 2016, 23:00
And the moral is: "Pharma can't be trusted to get the chemical synthetic properties right to make synthetic cannibis. What God has made they will never be able to take apart every combination of cannabinoid treatment for each individual area pot helps. It's better to just use it, and cover "all' bases in tis pollution infested carcinogenic world.
Safer anyway. Until this tampering with perfection, nobody died or got brain damage. You know they want to first boost the dose, then lower it, and they probably just like giving the monkey in the 1st government trial enough to cover over 100 people in one hour. They must be pissed off they can't mimic and patent this miraculous cure. They know cannibis puts the cancer cell in suicide mode, leaving healthy cells alone, and they are trying to capitalize on all of our pollution caused illnesses caused by corporations and fluoride.
They need to leave well enough alone, and stop trying to control or play God.
Dennis Leahy
15th January 2016, 23:05
And the moral is: "Pharma can't be trusted to get the chemical synthetic properties right to make synthetic cannibis. What God has made they will never be able to take apart every combination of cannabinoid treatment for each individual area pot helps. It's better to just use it, and cover "all' bases in tis pollution infested carcinogenic world.
Safer anyway. Until this tampering with perfection, nobody died or got brain damage. You know they want to first boost the dose, then lower it, and they probably just like giving the monkey in the 1st government trial enough to cover over 100 people in one hour. They must be pissed off they can't mimic and patent this miraculous cure. They know cannibis puts the cancer cell in suicide mode, leaving healthy cells alone, and they are trying to capitalize on all of our pollution caused illnesses caused by corporations and fluoride.
They need to leave well enough alone, and stop trying to control or play God.You missed the point of the opening post MODIFIED by the second post (by PurpleLama) - this was not a cannabis drug, synthetic or otherwise.
Dennis Leahy
15th January 2016, 23:12
6 months from now, what will be remembered? I will say to someone, "No one has ever died from cannabis.", and they will retort, "Oh yeah? Well how about the brain-dead guy and the critically ill people in France that were testing marijuana medicine???!!!"
...because very few people will follow-up on the story.
Very effective disinformation.
DeDukshyn
16th January 2016, 00:17
6 months from now, what will be remembered? I will say to someone, "No one has ever died from cannabis.", and they will retort, "Oh yeah? Well how about the brain-dead guy and the critically ill people in France that were testing marijuana medicine???!!!"
...because very few people will follow-up on the story.
Very effective disinformation.
The vast majority of incorrect, erroneous or invalid medical / drug claims in the media are never properly retracted. the CBC did an article on this exact topic ... I can't seem to find it right now.
DeDukshyn
16th January 2016, 00:23
I rest my case and I retire now.
The two topics are not exclusive of each other in the value department. Silly of you to pretend they were. ;)
wyldflwr
16th January 2016, 01:17
I knew it was either propoganda against cannabis use or wrong....by the way, nope, I do not use marijuana for medical or recreational purposes. I happen to be highly allergic but I wish I wasn't.
Lifebringer
17th January 2016, 06:40
WEll you know the competition pharma companies are trying to sythetically mimic the cannabinoid reactions with chemicals and it simply won't work. Also the combinations are separated as needed in the body, no AI can decide which goes where to give analysis on a possible blase cure fore each and every treatment of every illness. If I had investment in chemo meds, I'd be switching as the results of the cannabis test studies conducted on severe or chronic illness tests studies by AMA, are wonderful. I looked at a video when Colorado was just thinking about med-marijuana by the AMA. A lecture on the results on charts and slides of the microscope on the effectiveness for a cure for cancer. It was so promising that I took it viral. To think Richard Nixon knew this cured cancer and so many people, children, parents dying from it when they could have been cured.
Sad day to put profit over life in America. She's in bed with pharma aka murderCorp. Side effect city.:blackwidow:
WE just need real honest scientist of high moral standing in these positions again, not cronies.
Lifebringer
17th January 2016, 06:53
Hi Dennis, I've been following the cannibis oil formula theft by someone from CO. Pharma has long been suspected of trying to find a way to mimic through chemicals the properties of cannabinoids in cannabis to sell it off the counter and keep the war on the plant illegal. They are trying to find an "alternative" to full legalization. I wonder if they broke down the oil to chemical and then tried to use their synthetic versions to mimic it? Anyway, I kinda wondered when this "trial" for natural pain relief, would turn up. They really won't be able to unscramble the combinations, according to AMA they are too multiple and the possibilities endless. They need to just stop trying to do this. More harm will come. Cannabinoids are like the "Higgs Boson" in combinations. You know what they do, but don't know how they do it.
Lifebringer
17th January 2016, 06:58
This kind of reporting means Yahoo is cruising for a bruising on the truth. LOL they really do need better journalist? there.
Dennis Leahy
17th January 2016, 17:51
Lifebringer, there is no cannabis nor cannabinoids in this story - natural or synthetic. Your previous posts makes it appear that you believe that that this was a synthetic cannabis or synthetic cannabinoid.
The only "...cannab..." that is legitimately in this story is that the human body has an endocannabinoid system - of natural cannabinoid synthesis (these are called "endocannabinoids"), AND the endocannabinoid system includes the receptors (CB1 and CB2 receptors) that we have in our bodies that cannabinoids attach themselves to.
In this case, someone tried to make a pharmaceutical drug that would attach to the CB1 and/or CB2 receptors.
Shannon
17th January 2016, 18:39
6 months from now, what will be remembered? I will say to someone, "No one has ever died from cannabis.", and they will retort, "Oh yeah? Well how about the brain-dead guy and the critically ill people in France that were testing marijuana medicine???!!!"
...because very few people will follow-up on the story.
Very effective disinformation.
They sure know do know what they're doing. Already I over heard someone say on the subway "did you hear about the people who got killed by taking a test drug for pot pills? Guess weed isn't safe after all. "
*sigh* at that point of my day I couldn't wait to get home and get as stoned as possible.
bettye198
17th January 2016, 20:58
It appears just like what they do with natural herbs. They take the flower, bark or root from nature and then taint it with their own homegrown chemicals in a lab. Digoxin for the heart is only one simple example. Then that medicine becomes toxic to the patient.
In my Mothers retirement village, there is a cannabis club. No lie. And they teach the seniors how to grow their own!
Since my Mom was in intractable pain with her leg/knee, we ordered online a cannabis cream without the THC and it works for her. And by the way, have you noticed that hemp cremes in drug stores are taken off the shelves? I questioned that with the managers and they said, yes, no longer.
Dennis Leahy
17th January 2016, 23:20
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]...It appears just like what they do with natural herbs. They take the flower, bark or root from nature and then taint it with their own homegrown chemicals in a lab. Digoxin for the heart is only one simple example. Then that medicine becomes toxic to the patient.
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Only in this case, that is not what happened. This drug isn't cannabis, didn't start from cannabis, and is not an extracted cannabinoid from cannabis. It is also not synthetic cannabis. It is also not a synthetic cannabinoid.
The article was wrong, and was corrected.
Safari
18th January 2016, 10:37
I absolutely 100% agree with you. pharmesuetical componies make way too much money to have people believe something as simple as a plant can cure cancer.
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